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Dems & Media Imply Romney May Have Committed a Felony — But What’s the Full Story?

Dems & Media Imply Romney May Have Committed a Felony But Whats the Full Story?Talking points are becoming more personal, campaign rhetoric is heating up, and political operatives are pulling out the big guns. But what do you expect when we’re only a few months away from Election Day?

Of course things are going to get ugly!

The Obama campaign, for example, has accused former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney of being an “outsourcer-in-chief” and the Romney campaign has responded by calling the president a “liar.”

But let’s focus on this whole “outsourcer-in-chief” thing because (as we had great fun watching the other night) the president’s supporters are hell-bent on making this a major campaign issue.

Now, it’s important to note that the “outsourcer” accusation has already been debunked by Factcheck.org and The Washington Post.

Romney stepped down from managing Bain in 1999 to do the Salt Lake City Olympics. From there, he went on to become Governor of Massachusetts. The outsourcing that the Obama campaign blames Romney for occurred after he had finished managing the company.

If he wasn’t managing Bain, he wasn’t outsourcing. So this shouldn’t be a talking point, right? Well, remember when we said the president’s supporters are hell-bent on making this an issue? Yeah, we meant that.

The Boston Globe, a paper that has mostly ignored Massachusetts senatorial candidate Elizabeth Warren’s laugh-out-loud “fauxcohantas” problem, has uncovered documents that, they say, suggest Romney may have actively managed Bain after ‘99.

“Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time,” Callum Borchers and Christopher Rowland report for the Boston Globe.

“Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain ‘executive’ in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings,” the report adds, implying that that Romney could have made managerial decisions during Bain’s outsourcing period.

If the Globe can prove this, then the Obama campaign can really go after Romney for “betting against America”! But do the SEC documents prove he was actively managing the company?

“You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” former SEC commissioner Roberta S. Karmel told the Globe reporters.

“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” she added. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?”

Okay, so let‘s pretend the Globe and other news outlets are correct when they say Romney was involved in Bain’s day-to-day functions after February 1999. What then? Well, as Factcheck.org points out, he’d be guilty of a federal felony for having certified otherwise on federal financial disclosure forms.

“If someone invested with Bain Capital because they believed Mitt Romney was a great fund manager, and it turns out he wasn’t really doing anything, that could be considered a misrepresentation to the investor,’’ Karmel said.

Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter was more blunt in her assessment.

Either Romney was “misrepresenting his position” at Bain to the SEC, “which is a felony,“ or he was ”misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people,” she said during a conference call Thursday morning.

“If that’s the case, if he was lying to the American people, that’s a real character and trust issue,” she added.

Not so fast. As it turns out, documents recently obtained by Fortune show that, if anything, the Globe article is simply a poorly researched hit piece.

First, “offering documents for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001,” do no list Romney as being among the “key investment professionals,” the Washington Post’s Fact Checker [again!] notes.

Simply put, the “contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain — which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm,” Fortune adds.

Second, Romney never said he cleaned out his desk, shook the Bain dust from his feet, and never, ever looked back. He said he no longer called the shots after he stepped down in ‘99. The only thing the Globe’s recently-uncovered documents prove is that he still had ties to a company he helped build.

Dems & Media Imply Romney May Have Committed a Felony But Whats the Full Story?

Third, there’s this statement and explanation from Bain Capital itself:

Mitt Romney left Bain Capital in February 1999 to run the Olympics and has had absolutely no involvement with the management or investment activities of the firm or with any of its portfolio companies since the day of his departure.

Due to the sudden nature of Mr. Romney’s departure, he remained the sole stockholder for a time while formal ownership was being documented and transferred to the group of partners who took over management of the firm in 1999.

Accordingly, Mr. Romney was reported in various capacities on SEC filings during this period.

Fourth, there’s this rebuttal from Factcheck.org [via POLITICO]:

We see little new in the Globe piece. So far nobody has shown that Romney was actually managing Bain (even part-time) during his time at the Olympics, or that he was anything but a passive, absentee owner during that time, as both Romney and Bain have long said.

… in our considered judgment, nothing in the Globe story directly contradicts Romney’s statements — which he has certified as true under pain of federal prosecution — that he “has not had any active role” with Bain or “been involved in the operations’ of Bain since then.”

Lastly, and here’s the kicker, the two Globe reporters fail to mention that the former SEC commissioner they cite as an authority on the subject also happens to be a regular contributor to Democrats.

Seems like a pretty important detail, doesn’t it?

Final thought: Did these reporters really think no one would challenge their article? Considering that we live in an age of instant communication and high-tech research tools, figuring out whether someone (let alone a man running for president) has committed a felony by lying to the SEC isn’t going to be that difficult. Indeed, as of this writing, the Globe’s entire report has been thoroughly debunked and their narrative has been shot to pieces.

This story has been updated.

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  • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:59pm

    This is nothing compared to where the left goes when they are backed into the loser corner in about 3 months in my humble opinion.

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    • justasurvivor
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:05pm

      I completely agree. Nothing is more dangerous than a cornered, wounded candidate.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:09pm

      This is just another stab at rich people. They sicko liberals are trying as hard as they can to pain Romney as out of touch because he actually knows how to run a business, something Obama has no clue about. This is coming back to bite Obama big time because I think most people don’t really care how much Mitt Romney made or how he did it or where he legally put his money.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT8uyB86XXE

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:36pm

      You people really must consider this isn’t a left vs. right thing. Romney would be found guilty of violating the Logan Act if they enforced it. The CFR members would be found guilty of the Logan Act if they enforced it. THEY ARE ALL CRIMINALS. As for Romney… I don‘t know if he’s personally responsible, but his campaigners are felons.

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    • smokinghot75
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:51pm

      Well, Obama has a number of different names he has used in his life. I has been proven Obama has used at least 3 different SS#s. There is real evidence that he is hiding from his criminal past. I bet Obama is a convicted cocaine dealer.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:52pm

      @JUSTANGRY
      Which ones are criminals and what can you prove?
      I DO know some California Democrats were inside trading, Rangel should be in jail, and a bunch of them haven’t paid their taxes and I would bet the majority of those are Democraps.
      My brother-in-law is a Congressman and he is not a criminal, so watch what you say.
      From reading your posts over the last few weeks, I would say that you are “just angry” that Dr. Paul dropped out of the running.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:07pm

      @Anon… Read the Logan Act. You just type it into any search engine, hit enter, and there you go, hoss.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:11pm

      Oh and Anon, If your brother-in-law voted yes on the Patriot Act, NDAA, HR347, etc… He should be hanging from a tree.

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:31pm

      @JUSTANOTHEROPINION
      You’ve certainly got that right. What really worries me is what December is going to be like. If Obama wins, he’s going go full throttle, if he loses, we‘ll he’s got nothing left to loose and everything to revenge

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:54pm

      I can remember when many of us said we would rather vote for the dog catcher rather than this so called “brilliant” community organizer who was blatant in Fundamentally Changing We Americans. Now have we changed? Yes, we have. No one trusts anyone, well we all know now how he did it pretending to be our savior (of sorts). As always there are two choices to put in office. I for one have not changed my mind since Joe the Plumber was made a scapegoat for simply asking a potential president a question. I can NEVER recall an American citizen treated like that. EVER. For asking a question. God forbid I would even consider whether or not Mitt Romney did this or did that. He at the very least was raised by an American congressman. Do I care if he is Mormon? Hell, no.Do I care if he has riches and I am considered 3rd class? Hell, no.I am an American, I am rich and definitely count my blessings every day. I am a Christian but do you know hard it is to keep from hating this sorry excuse for a leader? And Hillary Clinton and Nancy the Fanatic? Yes, you do. because you have the same knowledge and passion as well. We love our country and they have virtually destroyed it. We HAVE no choice. MAKE MITT ROMNEY our next president..

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Romney did commit a felony though and the GOP have been breaking the law and rigging this election since January.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:30pm

      @Texas Granny, The people in Washington said it’s alright to KILL you if the president SUSPECTS you of terrorism without a trail judged by your peers. (Not all, but most) Romney said he’s fine with that on a Fox debate. I’m afraid the choice must come from outside the box. Have you heard about the “Constitution Free Zone”? Please look it up knowing the war on terror is over and Obama isn’t going to enforce illegal immigration… Then who is zone meant for?

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Who cares at least he’s not a drug addled Communist.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 8:14pm

      @MAMMY_NUNN – But your wrong. Romney is a communist.

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 8:43pm

      That be where OWS steps in, causes riots & an emergrency situation where Obama tries to impose marshal law & “postpone” the election until things calm down.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 10:25pm

      @Politicians are crooks. You are rather funny in your accusations funny as in ha ha. What proof do you have that Romney is a crook and Repub. have been rigging the elections since Jan? Did they rig it in 2008? or 2006?or 2010? This according to you began in Jan. this year. Please educate. I probably won’t respond though as I want to watch a movie. But I will check and double check what you say. I have pages of notes researched. Let me assure you first that I have been an independent voter for years, but must have registered as a Rep. and do vote in all Rep. primaries. I have voted for a Dem. exactly once and it sure as shootin wasn’t this deceptive deceitful antagonistic arrogant prevaricating——but I will add you vote for Obama with my blessiings because at this time you are still free.

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    • encinom
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 11:28pm

      Mitt is a proven liar and he is going down in flames. So either he has lied to the SEC or he lied to the American people.

      He was listed as the sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president for 3 years after he claims to have left (which Bain claims was part time). Sounds like a certain Mormon’s nose is growing. Of course if Romney followed his father’s example and released more than 1 year of tax returns he could clear this up, unless he is hiding something.

       
    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 12:43am

      TexasGranny, https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1

      Lawyers for Ron Paul have strarted a lawsuit to ensure the delegates ar unbound in Tampa, along with the accusations of election fraud and have asked for certain machines to be held for inspection. They believe they have the proof, and they also say they are going to file another lawsuit against the RNC claiming violations of the RICO statutes. I cannot help it you do not hear this on mainstream media. I tell everyone to stop wathching the establishment reporters, they lie and withhold what they do not want the masses to see. But Fox News sure likes to bring up Democrat voter fraud stories.

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    • RGFROMTEXAS
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 3:45am

      This episode does not look good for Mitt. Republicans have to be scared. It should be interesting on how it plays out !!

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    • love the kids
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 7:18am

      The Progressives are “All for Globalism and Spreading the Wealth”, untill someone from the US actually tries goes ahead and spreads his money around the globe!!!

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    • black9897
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:29am

      Make room for Paul. that would great if Romney had to drop out due to this. One less crook. Then you vote the other crook out.

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    • txdave22
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:06pm

      OBAMA TOUGH, GOT BIN LADEN, NOW HAS IRAN TO WALL; ROMNEY WEAK, WISHY/WASHY, DANGEROUS AS LEADER, UNSUCCESSFUL GUV, BAIN???, AFRAID OF PRESS CONFERENCE

      “The sanctions imposed on our country are the most severe and strictest sanctions ever imposed on a country,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said during a meeting with Intelligence Ministry officials in Tehran, reported by Iranian news services. “But the enemies’ assumption that they can put Iran in a weak position through these sanctions is false and is the result of their materialistic calculations.”

      Mr. Ahmadinejad also said Iran should turn the sanctions into an “opportunity to eliminate the country’s current reliance on oil revenue and take away from the enemy the use of oil as a weapon for imposing sanctions.”

      Iran relies on oil exports for 80 percent of its national budget. By some industry calculations, Iranian oil exports have already fallen by 40 percent so far this year, and the country is losing billions of dollars a month it had not anticipated.

      Oil industry experts say Iran’s predicament has worsened substantially because of the new European oil embargo, imposed on Sunday, and American measures imposed on Friday that penalize buyers of Iranian oil.

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  • meisterman41
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:50pm

    If anyone belongs in prison it is Obama and most of his cronnie friends! He can share a cell with John Roberts!!!!!

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    • bleuze
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:11pm

      In regard to Roberts, he did us a favor – we are more united than ever. Maybe that was his intention all along!
      In regard to Obama, prison is too good for him. I can think of something else for him and Holder and it starts with a “T”

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    • South Philly Boy
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:45pm

      Hey… Don’t forget holder

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Your right Obama should be in prison and some of his fellow buddies but sorry to break it you fake conservatives Romney has broken the law too

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  • MDECKER
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:50pm

    What ever happened to the taxpayer money that went to Solyndra? What Country was Obama really born in? Where are the transcripts from the schools Obama attended? Who payed for Obama’s education? (a list of receipts would suffice) How much money is being funneled into Obama’s campaign via George Soros? What exactly did Obama know about the Fast and Furious operation?

    This absolutely obscure President, owes far more truthful explanations of his past than does Mitt Romney. We found out something Romney did when he was in High School, 50 years ago, and we‘re forbidden to learn of Obama’s past decade.

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  • OneShotPagan
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:48pm

    There is absolutely no proof that Debbie Wassermann Schultz worked as a prostitute until she lost her mind.

    There is absolutely no proof that Jay Carney is a pedophile.

    They don’t have to lie … they can make stupid suggestions like these while assuming the the American people are too stupid to know what just happened … and they’re probably right!

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 11:51pm

      You’re no doubt right.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 4:57am

      The rumor about Fancy Nancy “the Queen of Botox” and Fat Janet “Where are the doughnuts” Napolitano having an affair is unfounded.

      OMG Nov 6, 2012

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  • Individualism
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:48pm

    We can’t nominate a criminal so the only one left is Ron Paul to nominate unless you neo cons can find a crime on him.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:13pm

      I don’t think that being the supreme leader of a Zombie Cult is a crime. That would be descrimination and profiling.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:38pm

      hes not a mormon.

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    • jetmech807
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:15pm

      @indv- You and those like you are one of the reasons to dis like RP. All I have to do is look at your avitar and that tells me the class of people most Paul-bots are. Going somewhere where there is a small gathering of Paul bots works to. Loud and Rude doesn’t equal correct. A vote for Paul is a vote for OB. Sing it loud, sing it proud! And if you wodering, don’t give a damn about the subject in this thread, cause most Paul bots don’t ever seem to care about the subject they are commenting in. Just scream how bad Romney is and how RP will save from everything under the sun.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:45pm

      The class of people that doesn’t hate people for their religion nothing wrong with that, Muslims are people to. class of people that doesn’t fall for staged attacks and a fake war on terror. a class of people that thinks instead of watching faux news. Romney is Obama with Bushes foreign policy therefore making him worse than Obama. You don’t have to vote for Paul you can vote for Gary Johnson if you come to realize reality. Paul gatherings are normally pretty large, around thousands of people while Romney’s are under 100 normally.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 11:18pm

      Who says you can’t nominate a criminal? It may not seem like a very good idea, but there’s no law against it.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 12:11am

      “Muslims are people too”…….No kidding I believe it was 9, have I got this correct, who flew planes into buildings, into pentagon and tried to get the WH? Killing how many citizens and citizens of other countries? Have never heard of Mormons doing the same. All people are created equal but are all religions created equal? Evidence suggests not. But that is just another ruse. Are all roses flowers? Are all flowers roses? Choices: Do I like all flowers? yes Do I like roses best? no. As said previously by voting for any other candidate you give Obama that vote but hey if Obama wins you’ll adapt. Vote for who you want, you are still free. And allow me to do the same, thank you.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 1:05am

      All of you have the freedom at this point in time to vote for anyone you want. It is a federal law that nobody, even state governments and parties, can tell you who to or not to vote for. You should make your vote based on the information at hand in order to put the most honest, Constitutionally sound candidate into the office of POTUS. Since we all know that Obama is definately not that, we have to look at Romney and Paul and decide, who is most electable? I say Paul as I know from information received, that Paul supporters are not going to vote for Romney because of the felony election fraud perpetrated along with violation of federal law by state GOP. I know that a lot of Democrats would vote for Paul from information received, and I know they will not vote for Romney, they will hold their nose for Obama (sounds familiar doesn’t it Republicans?). I know from information received that the youth, who helped to get Obama elected, will not vote for Romney, but would vote for Paul.
      I will make an informed decision and will not vote for Romney, but for Paul , if I have to write his name in, and I will try to get as many people as I can to do the same.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 2:43am

      @WestCoastPatriot I just cannot close it out after reading your other comment which really is an education in itself–about how you have “information received twice” about voters for Paul so I apologize. Mr. Paul is living in my state but he is from Pennsylvania so he probably read the Constitution up close and personal.and poor old me I only have my pocket Constitution from Freedom Works. Still as you say (thank you for that info) we do have the freedom to vote for who (or is it whom) we wish and every vote will have to count to beat Obama. Do you honestly believe that Paul has a snowballs chance in hell? Nope, sorry. By the way no rancor here but I have that freedom to state my opinion and when you write in your vote and all the other info you received do as well bear in mind you have just voted for Obama. I don’t hold it against you. By the way and beside the point but I do like Rand Paul. I hope Romney chooses Rubio the R&R suits me and maybe many voters to cancel your choice. Listen up–if you have ever read the Bill of Rights then you do know how the Founders fought and fought over wording, rights, etc. and then they all stood as one. We should as well. Pity.By the way you misjudge me–in a court of law I would give you every chance if you were “accused” before I would judge you. Good night or morning. I am done. Wait wait hold up..I voted against the longest serving Rep. in congress (and oldest I think).Are you impressed or what?

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 4:00pm

      Really? ROFLMBO!

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:46pm

    Our President has out sourced our lives with the horrible healthcare bill as it is as such. He says some people must pay insurance for those that do not want to, The AJ has also out sourced our lives saying their are some that do not have to prove citizenship to vote but we who are honest citizens must show ID’s sometimes on a daily bases. There has always been help for those that have had no control over their health problems and their is always transportation for those that need to get somewhere to vote. .. Vote as if your livelihood depend on it because it does in November.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 1:22am

      Exactly. In my lifetime this country has passed the unbelief test of all time. Never would I have ever dreamed that this is what my children and their’s would have to deal with or I think I would possibly have not had children but then again our forebearers faced hard times really hard and I can look back and feel for them. How awful it must have been. No matter the accusations on Romney he could be replaced. The difference is I doubt Obama could or we‘d have a choice again but and here’s the rub—if I believe in God and providence and I do then all I have to do is remember Ramses.Or Ahab and Jezebel. Do you recall how Obama seemed tantalized by those Egyptian figures? Perfect faith casteth out fear. I’m going with that.

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  • Coulterr
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:46pm

    The Obama campaign is becoming more and more desperate daily. Yesterday evening it was that Romney intentionally went to be booed at the NAALCP so he could sew up the “racist voting block”, now his surrogates in the media accuse him of being a felon without so much as a single stitch of evidence. In fact, the evidence goes against them. I want to make it clear I’m not a Romney supporter, but this is liable plain and simple. I think malice would be provable in court. He should sue the paper and these two “reporters” personally in Federal court.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:45pm

    Not only that felony but also Romney giving out sandwiches to voters check this out:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LpNKzxQQl4

    Lets get Romney behind bars for his crime like the average person of this country would get.

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    • BelindaB
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:50pm

      obama should be sitting in a FEDERAL PRISON, for the MURDER of Brian Terry, FRAUD, TREASON,and Failure to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. barack mounir ubayd is 30% ARAB MUSLIM….obama has NEVER been an AMERICAN CITIZEN..EVER !!!
      Vote for the AMERICAN, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS….Vote ROMNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give our TROOPS an AMERICAN Commander and Chief !!!!!

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    • BelindaB
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:56pm

      obama is a dirty muslim and a threat to America’s National Security….and has NEVER be a citizen of the United States of America!!! obama uses FRAUDULANT SSN’s, HIDES all his background information,has committed TREASON against America. Time to throw this DIRTY MUSLIM OUT OF OUR WHITEHOUSE!!!!

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Let’s put Romney and Obama behind bars.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:47pm

      Romney is Mexican not American, Paul and Johnson are the two Americans in the race. its stupid to vote for a criminal with a criminal record. Sorry but its either Ron Paul or Gary Johnson for now otherwise the perfect storm erupts and than things change the hard way.

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  • gbfreak
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:45pm

    Flukem!

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  • Portwine
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:44pm

    Talking words to be wary of. MAY have….followed up with the headline that will get public attention, become a talking point, many will miscontrue it to mean “guilty of”. Becoming the new “talking point” of supportors of the president. Watch for it. It’s now the norm for attacking any opponent.

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:40pm

    Obama is so crooked – that IF he wins – I will KNOW there is no hope for this country and will pray for it’s swift and fatal demise

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    • huey6367
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:47pm

      IF this country fails, I would hope the masses would storm Washington and “crucify” those in Congress, the White House (all of them) and the Supreme Court. Callme extreme but it would definitely send a messsage to the next politicians.

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    • takie
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:51pm

      Obummer is so crooked that when he dies, they will just screw him into the ground.

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  • huey6367
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:39pm

    Romney is so squeaky clean they are looking for ANYTHING to try and get him in trouble with voters. Even if it is a complete lie.

    Get tough Mitt. Dig up some unrefutable dirt on this loser in chief. I have all the faith in you, dude. Are you saving this for a future debate with O’dim bulb?

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  • COFemale
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:39pm

    This is only the beginning folks. Democrats are desparate and will act like an animal backed into a corner. This won’t be the last stretching of the truth or outright lie we will hear.

    We should just make a declaration to the Democrats, NOTHING YOU WILL SAY WILL MAKE US VOTE FOR OBAMA!.

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:38pm

    Mitt Romney might have managed a company illegally in 1990 — but it’s just FINE for Obama to have NO Birth Certificate – No Congressional Approval to go to war – No basis for 90% of the appointments – Bypasses the constitution regularly – and Obamacare didn‘t originate in the House therefor it’s not legal – but that only affects EVERYBODY — shall I go on?

    You gotta be kidding me.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 7:06pm

      So funny to see you guys argue back and forth about criminals. Your trying to tell me Romney is the best guy you can come up with. You conservatives disgust me.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 11:44pm

      @Politiciansarecrooks Good. Love to have disgusted liberals who really aren’t all that liberal with their liberality. So after that refreshing worry off my chest let us forward this converation with “You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool all the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time”. Aw shucks didn’t mean to fool you but no more conversaion I am going to watch a movie sometime tonight.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 1:15am

      TexasGranny, Quit being so ignorant on party lines. We do not have a two party system anymore, they are the same. You think that if a person says something bad about Republicans, they are automatically liberal. That is called being closed minded. I have been a Republican all my life (36 years), but I have also seen my party crumble into a more leftist ideology and since I am Conservative, I now consider myself a Conservative Libertarian (kinda like Reagan). So get off you holier than though leftist Republican mindset.

      “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” – Ronald Reagan

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 2:07am

      @WestCoast Patriot How funny you are and you must not read too well. I call myself independent, my son calls me libertarian. My so called ignorance shows that you are the one who is close minded. Thirty six yrs. whoo hoo. I can out weigh you many more years whoo hoo. What the hell does that mean in the context of this argument? On any given day I would never be holier than thou, if I were I would not be a Christian. Who has to discipline herself constantly. That is FYI although I usually don‘t give that much to anyone I do not know and obviously you sure as heck don’t know me. I have criticised many Republicans including my Senator Kaye Bailey Hutchinson pro choice Lindsey Graham John McCain who I did not vote for but Sarah Palin I did I can name many but some I like Darrell Issa and the new kids on the block. Also I consider myself a Ronald Reagan supporter as well. That is why I voted for him. Duh! Smaller government and I wish it were like it used to be—It ain’t but the subject is if you have not noticed about Romney and it is clear whether you like it or not that it is a two party system. My candidate I supported in the primaries didn’t cut it with the people and I had a 2nd choice and neither was my governor but now I wish it had been. We have Romney and Obama. Do I take offense when the only candidates that will count on the ballot are those two and one is being “accused”? Yep. You and I are on the same page but it just is not going to be Ron Paul. R&R I hope

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  • BeingThere
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:38pm

    How many felonies has Obama committed? Weed, blow, eating neighborhood pets, etc.

    I’ll take Charles Manson over obama … or even the presidential candidate my dog left in his kennel this morning!!!!!!

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Manson was just 43 years ahead of his time. Here comes “HELTER SKELTER”. And that ain’t good.

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  • drphil69
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:37pm

    The full story is the lamestream media will do ANYTHING to get obama re-elected.

    They completely ignored F&F… I mean, what’s the big deal? The only thing the administration did was facilitate the SALE OF ASSAULT WEAPONS TO KNOWN DRUG LORDS AND ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THE WEAPONS ACROSS THE BORDER INTO A COUNTRY THAT’S CONSIDERED AN ALLY, WHERE THE DRUG LORDS MURDERED HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND COPS, NOT TO MENTION THE MURDER OF BORDER GUARD BRIAN TERRY.

    See… no big deal. Now had he armed the enemy of our enemies, THAT would be news….

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:37pm

    Start suing them

    use their own tactics

    this is called libel_

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:36pm

    So now they make their threats and claims of “criminal activity” when none is there; and they are doign the exact thing they accuse Romney of. Typical desperation tactics of the leftists.

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  • Kankokage
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:36pm

    In desperation, the man without a foundation to stand on will cast his last lot at his enemy and declare him a criminal for merely existing.

    We’re there, people.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:33pm

    Cool! Take him. We’re not really crazy about him.

    We’ll take Palin.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:31pm

    Q: WHAT’S THE FULL STORY?

    A: dim-O-rat desperation.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:31pm

    We are still left with the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

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    • FREDINOHIO
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:46pm

      What we are left with is a choice between socialism and the destruction of America, or capitalism and the freedom it provides. Your choice. Pick wisely.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 5:44pm

      Gary Johnson i choose the Libertarian or Ron Paul is gets nomination somehow.

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 6:14pm

      @ mutiny……..more invective from our resident demagogue.

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  • KevINtampa
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:28pm

    I have a name for these media types going on and on about this:

    Bainers

    How does it feel to be marginalized Boston Globe?

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  • OhioRifleman
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:28pm

    Libbie deflection in 3…2…1…

    Of course they will post things like this. There is no honor amongst thieves, and the Left lives on thievery and skullduggery. What sane man would expect different?

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  • ZAP
    Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:28pm

    Romney has enough material to smoke Obama,but sits there like a church mouse

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    • spirited
      Posted on July 12, 2012 at 4:46pm

      Obama and his folks will set themselves on fire……and burn out!

      Chances are, Romney is building a bon fire ~~>slowly..
      Building an ember base that will radiate and not smoke and smolder out .

      >Romney, put another log on the fire.

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