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The Nation Editor Rants — ‘Screw The Polls’

Katrina vanden Heuvel of The Nation was asked by Morning Joe’s Mika Brzezinski if she thought President Obama was alienating his base by the perceived move to the middle indicated in the recent SOTU address.  Ms. vanden Heuvel’s response bounced around like a “bb in a boxcar.”

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  • Chasvs391
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:55am

    look, it won’t be long before they come all the way out of the closet and declare themselves in favor of Barack Obama as Supreme Leader for Life! SCREW the Constitution, it gets in the way of the Dictatorship they all so desire! It’s TIME, it’s TIME, it’s TIME NOW to rid ourselves of this insidious menace!

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  • dreardon31
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:53am

    I love watching the ******** eat their own young.

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  • Quencher
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:52am

    OLDGUY49 has the right diagnosis– I agree wholeheartedly. Obama is using the communist “THREE FORWARD TWO BACK and we gain ONE for the revolution progress”!! Just study the communist writings of Marx & Lenin and you will find the roadmap that Obama and his gang are following.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:50am

    She’s such a moron.

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  • scout n ambush
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:49am

    Ever see a little girl or boy stick their fingers in their ears and start yelling i can’t hear you ! I can’t hear you ! It’s about the same thing .

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  • Showtime
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:47am

    That woman has diarrhea of the mouth and constipatiuon of the mind.

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  • Falcon11
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:44am

    That’s easy for you to say Katrina.

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  • wboehmer
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:42am

    A good example of Katrina vanden Heuvel letting her left-wing nonsense get out-of-control – to the point that she almost is foaming at the mouth.

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  • barrycooper
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:40am

    What leftists do is conflate their ideas with what is possible. I think we should leave Social Security and Medicare alone. I also think every little girl should have a pony, and every little boy a go-cart. I think we should all live in 5 bedroom mansions, have a half acre to ourselves, be able to eat out every night, buy a new car every two years, take 4 week vacations, and never incur any debt. We should all be trim no matter how much we eat, emotionally satisfied, and love our jobs.

    This is not the world we live in. Plans do not get to start from any place but reality. This is the fundamental difference between the adults and the children. She is unwilling to accept any rational limits on what is possible. She is unwilling to admit that the national credit card has a limit, and–empirically–that government jobs are not real jobs, do not create sustainable revenue, and in fact lead to economic decline.

    Whatever her self image, when you see grinding poverty, educational failure, and widespread pessimism, it is her policies that led us there.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:54am

      If we can put a man on the moon, why can’t every little girl have a pony! Free beer for everyone! Jefferson saw this coming 230 years ago.

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    • ClaytonDM
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:18pm

      @Gonzo

      Exactly. I think the 5,000 year leap should be required reading in school. The founders predicted virtually every problem we’re faced with these days and detailed ways to prevent them.

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  • James Harrington
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:39am

    Typical liberal speak.

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  • Bob_R_OathKeeper
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:36am

    I agree with Sarah also…… WTF?

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  • smithclar3nc3
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:34am

    This lady is beyond idiotic she just say America don‘t want any say in how we’re govern we just want leaders. She need to get the he77 out of America. We’re are a nation of self-governed people.

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    • Sgt.Moto
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:51am

      That is the part that stood out the most to me as well.

      And by saying screw the polls, she is admitting she doesn’t care what the majority of people think. That’s odd since isn’t the left always calling our republic a democracy.
      This is along the same lines as Bill Maher (and others) who think some few elitists should rule, and shove everything down the people’s throats.

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  • roxee
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:34am

    While the dems and republicans fight over issues, the banksters are off printing money out of thin air,and stealing money via the Stock Market.

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  • jmmjr49er
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:34am

    Good to see “Hurricane Katirna” still has place on MSNBC with Joe and Mika. Maybe Mika can get her Dad or Jimmy Carter on to discuss world affairs.

    Who is watching these turds? Oh yes, “No Labels” people who brought us sports without winners.

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  • OkieDokie
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:34am

    I have no idea what she was talking about.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:45am

      You didn’t miss much.

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    • Tennessee Veteran
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:48am

      I couldn’t understand her either because she seemed so incoherent. Could you imagine Katrina Vanden Huevel and Ariana Huffington “discussing” anything? That would be like the Tower of Babel reconstructed.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:49am

      Me, either, Okiedokie. But I‘m glad I didn’t miss much, Gonzo.
      Thanks. I feel better now!

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:31pm

      @Tennessee Veteran
      The exciting verbal exchanges between vanden Huevel and Huffington have been breathtakingly captured on film…..I refer you to any “Godzilla vs. Mothra”, “Godzilla vs. Mega-Godzilla”, “Godzilla vs. Mike Tyson” films…..I’m not for sure who-is-who in the films, but they are certainly exciting. I believe that Micheal Moore directed a few of them…..from Cuba.

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  • hillbillyinny
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:33am

    More interesting is that “Morning Joe” is flip-flopping all over the place on whether Pres “O” is “his” president or “your” president. This AM, from start to finish was MORE than interesting. His co-host, Mikka, was appalled at much of what he said today! (I watch to find out what the “other side” is talking about, especially from 6:00 to 7:00 when no one else is watching and they say what they really feel!)

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:49am

      LMAO I do the same thing!!!!
      Those moonbats are crazy
      WillieG especially cracks me up

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:24pm

      That entire show is the most “confused” program on all of TV. They all try to act so intellectual and tolerant but it all quickly evaporates when someone challenges them on their core beliefs. Progressives are so much better at attacking a person’s Conservative principles than defending their own ideaology.

      By the way, is you some of my kin???

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  • tobywil2
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:33am

    Those who matter in President Obama’s base know that it is action not rhetoric that is important and understand the importance of his deception. Of course, that base may make disparaging remarks about Obama’s apparent change of heart to reinforce the ruse.

    Since President Obama took office there has been absolutely no correlation between his action and his rhetoric. Why should we start believing him now. http://commonsense21c.com/

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:31am

    So the liberal woman is bashing MSNBC for being to hard on Obama? Holy crap, what does she want, non stop infomercials from the White House?

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:12pm

      I thought all we got from the slime stream media was a continuous commercial for Obumbler.

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  • BubbaCoop
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:29am

    http://www.kabletown.com/

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  • DUMBASPELOSI
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:29am

    “The Corporate Meida”? The left is so confused . . . they used polls for the past decade, and now one of the “elites” of the left doesn’t like the polls so “screw the polls”. The left is irrelevant to solving the problems we face as a nation.

    What we need to do is . . ..
    1. Defend the right of women to be leaders in the political landscape.
    2. Put pressure on the pundits that are being unprofessional, disrespectful name callers when
    they attack Tea Party Conservatives.
    3. Hold all politicians accountable for what happens to spending now that we know we are broke
    due to the wreckless and foolish behavior of our elected bodies.
    4 Have fun ripping the left for their hypocritical and uncivil behaviors.

    Finally – boycott Nevada as long as Harry Reid refuses to allow a vote on ObamaCare.

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  • RCScrolls
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:28am

    What the heck is going on, gotta stop watching this.
    Aslong as we ignore them they will only be talking to themselves.
    This woman would be fired if she worked for any informed Newsteam

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  • RightUnite
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:28am

    Another blithering idiot from the left…. BLAHBLAHBLAH!

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    • Freedom1984
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:49pm

      What a moron. Notice how she had to stop when Joe asked her “how do you know this then?”…… she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar… and all she did was try to babble her way, and talk over people so they actually forget her hand was in the cookie jar in the first place.

      All I can say is WTF?

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  • TheGreyPiper
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:28am

    Wow. Talk about waffle. Or incoherence. Love the “WTF???” look from the couple bystanders they cut to the couple times.

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    • butler180
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:53am

      And this from MSMBC, Maybe their is a light 1m miles down the tunnel

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  • TheHonestAmerican
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:25am

    Communists lie.

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    • copper
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:38am

      And the PROPAGANDA mills churn and churn their endless rhetoric. They don’t care how many are there listening. Say it loud enough and long enough and those who are so busy with texting and American Idol will swallow anything. The German people did. It was mass suspension of logic.

      Unfortunately a portion of our citizens and larger portion of non-citizens are very, very gullible. And don‘t or WON’T think for themselves.

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    • Untameable-kate
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:15pm

      So her point on Afghanistan is that the majority of American people want out of the war, and regardless of what the polls say, the polls don’t matter and she is right because she says so.

      One thing I love about the Blaze is that there is no talking over each other like in this clip. I’m really losing patience with the democrats that I talk to, it seems I can never finish a thought before they start talking over the top of the conversation. No wonder they never learn anything.

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    • So
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:20pm

      The democrats have been screwing the polls for quite awhile now. The first shellacking didn’t get the message across.

      Time for another shellacking!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:36pm

      @Untamable

      Count your blessings, I have to put up with three progressive lunatics, one claiming to be an avowed communist along the lines of Che-Castro-Stalin in his rantings. I got to admit though, I love to play the words of their beloved “heros” while the background shows the attrocities they commited; then I show them Glenn Beck’s clips…sometimes the howling is worth putting up with.

      As I tell them about the book Broke – “Read the book, it takes guts to read the book.”

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    • MHP
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:38pm

      @Untameable-kate

      One way to get back at interrupting democrats. Pepper Spray them. they’ll shut up then.

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  • Dustyluv
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:23am

    The lame stream media has not listened to the people in yeasr. They are idiots that do not care because they think they know better.

    After all they call Obama a moderste>>>as Sarah would say WTF??

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    • Lantern
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:32am

      Keep on not listening to the people. 2012 will be a landslide, if we make it that far without a revolution or riots.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:33am

      obama …..he wants to apper to be a moderate so he can get re-elected , then he can finish destroying our country!!!

       
    • Curator_JDR
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:37am

      Have you ever seen Chris Hedges of the Nation, on the Maddow show. He looks like Mr. Maddow’s lesbian brother. One look and you know not to take him seriously.Vanden Heuvel comes from an elite family and lives in a bubble.Sad.

      They do not know what Americans think because they are too busy telling us WHAT TO THINK. Its all in this very funny animated web satire where Americans take back their country from an evil PC totalitarian “ruling class”

      http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu

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    • expatinontariocanada
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:41am

      Why shouldn’t we expect the left to Blah Blah Blah when trying to figure out what President Oblahblah said in the SOTU speech or what he should do or how he should govern? We all heard the two-faced speech and now they wonder who the guy is. Makes perfect sense to me.

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    • brliantedj
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:42am

      “I see a conglomerate of media in this country” WOW that seems as if someone took a break from drinking KOOL ADE, This is quite clear.

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    • NeoKong
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:49am

      She can’t admit it. Obama has been a horrible disappointment to her and she will do anything to change the subject.
      The fact is that she has nowhere to go if she doesn’t prop up Obama because to her the alternative is worse so in the end she will defend him.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:54am

      So much for “government of the people, by the people, for the people”. President Abraham Lincoln was apparently incorrect.

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:07pm

      I think they ALL came from the planet Klaatu, or whatever he said, over there at MS-LSD!!! If they ever told the truth, their noses would fall off!!! Talk about a DUH moment, I don’t think she knows what the hell she is talking about!!!

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:16pm

      Had to turn this off early. Have had WAY too little coffee to try to comprehend this wacko conversation…

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    • taxed
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:19pm

      Screw the polls, yet rail on the people when they show up at the townhalls, a la health debates…

      http://conservativepoliticalforum.com

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:23pm

      Why aren’t people listening to our moderate president. Bullet trains are a great idea. Just take a look at how well Amtrak has been managed. It is a shinning example of what government can do with our daily earnings. This lady is just frustrated that other Americans can’t see the obvious successes like Amtrak, The postal service, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The borders, Vietnam, Homeland security. I could go on and on. Why wouldn’t everyone turn over every aspect of their lives to the success that is our Federal Government?

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:32pm

      the one thing I can see is the left is livid. There will be no moderation in their talk, believe they will become more radical. Predict it is coming soon, big european type protests. Homeland security should be researching this extreme left.

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    • Bearded_One
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:33pm

      Wow! What a malapert fool! Poor Katrina cannot reason or follow reasoning.

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    • WHOISTHATMADMAN
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:44pm

      They can’t admit that their side makes up 10% of the country, yet conservatives and moderate conservatives make up 90%. They want us to think half the country follow their ideology, yet time and time again polls show (and conversations with neighbors, co-workers, friends, family, random people in line at the grocery store) that people are conservative by nature. Middle right IS America.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:51pm

      THE LEFT ATTACKS MR. OBAMA?
      Mr. Obama has been in office almost 2 years and has failed to stamp out the last vestiges of individual liberty. According to spokespersons on the left, This is proof of incompetence. Ridiculous, in less than two years the man has done more to destroy the American Revolution than any other politician in our history. Don’t be duped by this media blitz! The real message is ” the enemy of your enemy is your friend . If the left is against Obama he deserves your support.” Don’t be one of the gullible who is taken in by this preponderance of propaganda.
      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:04pm

      WE are not done yet!
      Vote the socialist b-stards out in 2012!

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:14pm

      Typical Progressive hack….if the polls seem to support the Progressive agenda (Iraq/Afghanistan wars, Social Security, etc.) then THOSE polls are relevant….they represent the undisputed will of the American people. If the polls do not support the Progressive agenda (Obamacare, reduced Federal spending, social issues) then “screw the polls!”. Katrina vanden Struedel believes herself to be one of the few “purist” journalist in the country. All others have been “corporatized”. “The Nation” is just a Communist propoganda rag…..always has been and always will be. She is always very careful not to reveal that fact. Maybe she has been “compromised”…..let’s see what the polls say about it…..

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    • Clive
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:22pm

      he will move to the right a little, get the independents, maybe even snag a few republicans, and win the election. probably by a lot. progressive dems will be angry, thats true, but not angry enough to vote for sarah palin or mitt romney.

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    • Lustwunder
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:32pm

      Ish: Homeland security should be researching this extreme left.

      They won’t tho…just thee and me.

      Bring it.

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    • MHP
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:26pm

      How bout NASA send this hag up into space on a recreated Sputnik. She can go back to her “Mothership”

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    • DisillusionedDaily
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:10pm

      “Screw the polls” translates to “Screw the people”! Why do liberals think they are the only ones with answers?

      “Democrats never agree on anything, that‘s why they’re Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans.”
      Will Rogers

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    • GONESURFING
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:30pm

      Everything Katrina vanden Heuvel knows is wrong.

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:43pm

      @DisillusionedDaily
      Thanks for the quote! That was EPIC!

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