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The Numbers Are In: Herman Cain’s Strange Smoking Ad Is Paying Off

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Herman Cains Strange Smoking Ad With Mark Block Is Paying Off With $5 Million in DonationsWell, it seems GOP front-runner Herman Cain’s bet on an unconventional video ad featuring smoking campaign manager, Mark Block, has paid off. As of the latest tally Friday morning, the Cain camp has raked in nearly $5 million in donations – earlier reported as $3 million — since the beginning of October. According to The Wall Street Journal, the cash surged even faster since the controversial ad aired on Monday.

“Our donations online have shot up a lot since that ad,” said Block, who claims the bizarre spot has now been viewed by at least four million people and counting since going viral.

“Yes, the smoking part of that ad was controversial—and I don’t in any way condone smoking—but the message that Herman Cain is a different kind of presidential candidate is certainly resonating across the country.”

Block, who claims most of the campaign’s contributions $60 each, insists the ad has bolstered, rather than hurt Cain’s image.

“The money we are getting is wildly beyond our expectations,” he said.

WSJ adds:

During the last two fund-raising periods, covering six months, Mr. Cain raised $4.7 million from donors and chipped in $675,000 of his own money. But that was before Mr. Cain took off in national polls and became the latest favorite of conservatives who aren’t wild about former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

If his cash inflow for this month doesn’t slack off in November and December–a big if–Mr. Cain would notch one of the best quarters of the campaign so far. Only Mr. Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry are the only candidates so far to have tallied more than $15 million in any one quarter.

The campaign, in turn, is spending a lot more, especially on staff. Mr. Cain had 37 paid staffers working for him in early September. That number now sits at 60, Mr. Block said.

For reference, below is Cain’s ad:

Below is a clip from The Blaze’s earlier report of Block explaining the message behind the ad:

Is Cain’s surge in campaign donations a direct result of his strange new ad spot? Weigh in with your thoughts.

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  • PHINEAS T. BLUSTER
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:26pm

    Redneck Pickup Truck seen in the south…..Confederate Flag Bumper sticker on the right…”.Cain In 2012 ” sticker on the left of the bumper….. We’ve come a long way baby. I’m a 61 year old White Dude and I like NICE People no matter what color they are! The media tells Me I must be a racist cuz I’m White and a Conservative. . Do I need some kind of “ I need to learn to hate” rehab ? Please advise.

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:33pm

      If Obama had his way PHINEAS we would all be in some type of rehab or labotomized. not to worry PHIN.

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    • 338lapua
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:51pm

      Yer gonna need a waiver…..

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    • ILUVJESUS
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:08pm

      Howdy Doody. I love the ad because it’s honest.

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    • mpilch
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:20pm

      Guess you better reserve a room for me too. Does this mean we‘re on the White House’s “unacceptable list?” — Matt

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    • HARDWORKPAYS
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:22pm

      I smoke, and when I saw the ad, I was shocked. I was scared for Mr Cain. I immediately thought oh no, they are going to freak! It has made me realize how brain washed we are as a society! The man is just smoking a cigarette for God’s sake! It is completely legal, and millions of people do it. But, we are not permitted to do it in public. I am made to feel like a crack head or something for smoking. I have just realized how much freedom and contol I have lost with political correctness. It is genious to have this man actually have the balls to smoke on camera! He is not shooting up heroine, but the reaction by the media is the same. He has made me see the light. It should not matter that he is smoking a cigarette. Thank you for waking me up. Go Herman Go!

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    • Salvatore
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:31pm

      You took the words right out of my mouth. I support Herman Cain because of the man and the American he is. Liberal junkies need to go peddle their racism to Eric Holder.

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    • NOT A CRAZY
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:31pm

      A confederate does not equal racism. That flag, like the DTOM, means that we are not going to roll over when some clown in Washington decides we must march to their drummer. That is the Rebel Flag and my ancestors died for that flag and I will fly it all day long and then vote for who I want. Right now it looks like there is only one conservative front-runner in the race is Cain and if I get a chance that is who I am voting form

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:43pm

      President Cain is brilliant. The ad symbolize that we are responsible to ourselves in regards to our habits, what ever they may be, government regulations need to back off.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:17pm

      As you see, lotsa folksy folks sending their bucks, nice job “Herb!” STAY IN IT!

      “Don’t forget this fact ,you can’t get it back, KochCain”

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    • fcbs46
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:44pm

      Yea Phineas: Me to, maybe I need a rehab also GO CAIN I hate smoking but it’s part of the real: baby.
      I’ll take a Cain then a Romney any day

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:55pm

      I can always count on the blaze for 24/7 updates on Cain like what he had for breakfast, lunch, dinner, when he shaved last ,when his last bowl movement was, ect, ect.

      Ron Paul 2012 the last thing we need is another flip flopper.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:00am

      I think the kind of strange. Be that as it may, has Mr. Cain Walked Back© his statements on 2nd amendment rights yet? or will this be tomorrows walk back?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:12am

      This Monk supports Herman Cain.

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    • BlazingPatriot
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:07am

      So, what’s next?
      Someone sniffin a little Co-Cain?

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:22am

      @tifosa
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:17pm
      As you see, lotsa folksy folks sending their bucks, nice job “Herb!” STAY IN IT!

      “Don’t forget this fact ,you can’t get it back, KochCain”
      ***
      How many drags of Weed does it take to think that’s brilliant?

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:26am

      @stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:55pm
      I can always count on the blaze for 24/7 updates on Cain like what he had for breakfast, lunch, dinner, when he shaved last ,when his last bowl movement was, ect, ect.

      Ron Paul 2012 the last thing we need is another flip flopper.
      ***
      Wow! a Paulite that’s too grown up to say, “But Ron Paul will let you smoke too!”

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:39am

      Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:26am
      Ron Paul 2012 the last thing we need is another flip flopper.
      ***
      Wow! a Paulite that’s too grown up to say, “But Ron Paul will let you smoke too!”

      Ok, not sure what you mean, I don‘t smoke don’t never have I think it’s a disgusting habit, I just do my homework Ron Paul is the best man for the job. The others including Cain will be more of the same, just at a slower pace.
      good day or night!!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:02am

      @stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:39am
      Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:26am
      Ron Paul 2012 the last thing we need is another flip flopper.
      ***
      Wow! a Paulite that’s too grown up to say, “But Ron Paul will let you smoke too!”

      Ok, not sure what you mean, I don‘t smoke don’t never have I think it’s a disgusting habit, I just do my homework Ron Paul is the best man for the job. The others including Cain will be more of the same, just at a slower pace.
      good day or night!!
      ***
      Just mean that 90% of the people on here defending Paul (or supporting him) do so because of his stance on legalizing drugs! Of course if he’s for smoking dope, he’s also for smoking cigarettes. That said, I’ve known too many drug addicts who were violent when on them (worked in a shops full of them years back, too many who abused or neglected their children, and new too many who mixed drugs and nearly or really killed themselves, knew a girl who had LSD dropped in her soft drink before it was illegal, (She committed suicide moments later trying to fly from a 4th floor window across the busiest street in town at rush hour.)
      I also know that Ron Paul‘s stance on National Defence doesn’t take into account the reality that bombs can be dropped from the skies or off ships without someone coming across our borders, so we need troops stationed around the world, to get other places quickly if there’s an attack from more than 1 enemy like in WWII.
      Good mor

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    • jzs
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:13am

      PHINEAS, I will advise. Cain’s 999 plan will raise your taxes to pay for the tax cuts for the rich. What do you think about paying an extra 9% on everything you buy? That’s the 999 plan friend. The value of your money is instantly worth 9% less than it was. That’s what Cain is proposing. How does that sound to ya?

      In a couple of years you’ll be living on Social Security, dependent on the government. If you’d been a Cain conservative, you’d have saved up enough money to not have to mooch off the government. But you didn’t. Okay your deserve it, you paid in. But your children, if Cain is elected will have to save that money themselves, which surely they’ll do: put that $100/month away for retirement, plus another $50/month away to buy insurance when they retire and lose theirs. Surely they put that $150 per month away, they’re doing it now right?

      Redneck Pickup Truck seen in the south…..Confederate Flag Bumper sticker on the right…”.Cain In 2012 ” sticker on the left of the bumper….. We’ve come a long way baby. I’m a 61 year old White Dude and I like NICE People no matter what color they are! The media tells Me I must be a racist cuz I’m White and a Conservative. . Do I need some kind of “ I need to learn to hate” rehab ? Please advise.

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    • PKama
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:14am

      This ad is very brilliant…For his next commercial, they should do it showing someone eating the kind of foods that MOOCHELLE NOBAMA tells us not to eat. GO HERMAN !!! Bring real freedom back again to this great nation !!!

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    • sputnik
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:28am

      @JZS making the same mistake that other uneducated people make when talking about economics. It is not a zero sum game, when someone gets wealthy its not because someone else gets poor. There is not a limited amount of wealth that is evenly distributed and then “stolen” by evil rich people. That is not how it works. But since your fundamental economic philosophy is horribly deficient, you will never understand 999 and how it will be beneficial for everyone.

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    • mlcblog
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:53am

      Excellent post. You get a clean bill of health from me.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:58am

      Hey! JZS! Another tent dweller. Is it cold on wall street tonight? Did Soros tuck you in? I thought the fire department took all your generators? Wow their are a lot of you out tonight. This Cain guy has really got you worried doesn’t he puddin? I’m sorry the bad conservative black man has you scared. actually, I’m not. The problem with you lefties is your cowards. You get all tough in front of a camera at the cops and cry when they take you away to a shower. why don’t you and all your union thug buddies quit talking and bring it? I promise to act scared for a second; right before I say a prayer, and load my M4. what do you say punk?

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    • 420 Patriot
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:35am

      Cain will be bad for the country, period. He has a tax plan, that is it. We need to get rid of taxes and the FED or we are going down the tubes. I studied law in college with a 3.87 average and am a member of The National Society of Collegiate Scholars, so I am not an idiot. we need to go with a President who follows the Constitution in everything he does and will actually act on his sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution. There is only one honest candidate that I will trust with this. Everyone knows who he is, Ron Paul. If you continue to do what you’ve always done, you will continue to get what you’ve always got. Stop voting for candidates that have to move their position to the left or right or to the center to get elected. They are lying if they do that. Let’s not blow it for this may be our last chance to get it right. One person who tells the truth no matter how bad it is. He’s the guy.
      Continued next post

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    • 420 Patriot
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:37am

      Does everyone know what Paul has done? He has stood up against lobbyists. They do not even approach him. Every vote he has done was based on Constitutional principles. He gives back money not needed in his district every year to the Treasury. He will only accept approx. $39,000.00 in salary for the office of President as that is the median wage of the average American. He fights our defunct Congress on Unconstitutional bills constantly to try and protect our freedoms. He had successful legislation to prevent eminent domain and transfer the ownership of a dam from the Fed Gov to the Texas Gov. He has helped to prohibit funding for a Natl I.D. card, the list goes on and on on how he tries to protect liberty and states rights. The Constitution! Go to the Congress website and check his voting record. He speaks the truth (found very little in Washington anymore) even though noone wants to hear the truth. I do not know anyone who could be considered closer to George Washington in the way he feels about his country. How long are you willing to wait for a George W? This election (if we have one) may be our last chance to protect our liberties from being gone forever. I just cannot believe that everyone does not see this!!? Liberty, what is it? Go here:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I

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    • 420 Patriot
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:54am

      @Milmom

      You have Ron Paul all wrong on the drug issue. What he is saying is the Federal Government, according to the Constitution, does not have that right. It is up to each individual state to determine those issues. In a free society, if you do not like the laws of the state you are in, two things can happen. One is the majority of the population of the state can change the law. Second choice, if you are in the minority, is to (as Ronald Reagan said) vote with your feet and move to a state where the laws suit your needs. In the big Fed Gov that we are in now, all the states are close to the same because of Fed Regulation. Read The Federalist Papers (found at glennbeck.com) read them and go back and read through your Constitution booklet. Everyone, get a copy of the Constitution, read it and carry it everywhere you go. Watch the video I posted above and learn about what real liberty is about.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:12am

      @HARDWORKPAYS
      Smoking is NOT a right. That is the unconscionable lie tobacco companies have sold us, and we have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Second-hand smoke is a public health hazard. Even one cigarette is toxic to you and everyone who has to breathe the air around you. Have you ever seriously researched what awaits you if you get emphysema? Please don’t let some highly irresponsible and uncaring politician deceive you. True freedom is being able to breathe. Quit smoking, friend. God will help you.
      http://www.emphysema.net/my.asp
      http://tobaccosmoke.exposurescience.org/book/export/html/4

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:25am

      Bet the Republican establishment is scheming devious ways to topple Mr. Cain.
      Also bet, Dr. Paul running as an independent is part of that scheme.
      That alone will pull votes away from Romney to insure Barry Soetoro gets another 4 years.
      There is little difference between the Socialist\Democrats and the Democrat\Republicans when their only cause is power.

      Barry Soetoro is stepping outside the US Constitution and usurping Congress to get us accustomed to his upcoming dictatorship.
      The House is going soft on spending cuts to ensure a comfortable position when the nation converts to a dictatorship.
      Most of the Senate members know their under the microscope so they’re doing nothing to rock the boat.
      And, the Federal Reserve is planning on more printing.

      We’re going to see one hell of a war for power in the Senate, while at the same time a revolving door will be created for Barry to keep his seat in the Oval Office as our new dictator.
      I’m afraid the fodder will be the citizens, taxpayers or not, with our House and Senate converted to meaningless parliamentary bodies.
      Also, watch Ohio, then watch the unelected Supreme Court … Especially jurist Anthony Kennedy.

      If the only way to get the power hungry slobs in DC out of our lives is to vote them out … We’re screwed more than nine ways to Sunday.

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    • 420 Patriot
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:44am

      Well Cat, keep getting your news from the MSM, and I include Fox. If Cain, Romney or Perry get in there, we will just head toward the cliff of Socialism just a tiny bit slower. We will continue to lose liberty until it is gone, the economy will crash and we will be a collective.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:55am

      Yep, lots of trolls around, trying to get us to talk about something other than Cain’s brilliant ad. (Sorry, I know “brilliant” has already been written several times, but I couldn’t find a better word.) Obama’s hypocrisy, the msm’s dictatorial political correctness, personal freedom– are some of the issues which might come to mind as the viewer continues the ad personally, surprised by the ending and searching for “Why did they put that in there?”

      I have eliminated some candidates from my list because I don’t like their politics.
      Herman Cain is still on my short list. Beware you who have already decided, depending on the issue, what some see as “waffling” or back-stepping, or whatever, others see as honesty and intelligence interpreted nastily by an untrustworthy msm. Don’t we already have the ultimate confident know-it-all President?

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:18am

      420Patriot

      Haven’t watched TV in 8 years, they lie.
      This reasoning comes from other media sources, history and political books as well as daily discussions with people in and out of government.
      Most of DC is comprised of individuals who do not work for us.
      Watching Mr. Cain with critical eyes as well as the other activities.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:20am

      Here is a good Herman Cain Ad….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOs1m5QqaHg

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:29am

      YES CAIN the smoking flipflop for 2012 !!! Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 6:24am

      “I studied law in college with a 3.87 average and am a member of The National Society of Collegiate Scholars, so I am not an idiot.”– 420 PATRIOT

      I like Ron Paul and I agree with much of what he says. I am a Constitutionalist, I understand his ideology. The difficulty is how to lead the country back to our magnificently REVOLUTIONARY Constitution without becoming stiff and unbending ideologues like the current administration! Most of us know this cannot be done overnight, yet Paul‘s campaign gives us the impression that they plan on massively rebooting the system as soon as he’s in office. Typical of ideologues, the Paulist‘s I’ve seen here are overbearing and unbending. Get real and specific about the rocky road back to the Constitution–and maybe people will listen.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:05am

      @GETLIFE What happened to bold and brave new solutions? The acts of our founding fathers were REVOLUTIONARY. Are we suppose to believe that a return to a Constitutional Republic deserves simple and small steps? The corruption and transformation our Country has been going on for about a century now. Our Nation’s destruction is but on the verge of occurring. There is no time, there is no waiting. Great actions and decisions must be taken now. We are at the brink of a world economic collapse. Tinkering with our tax code with 9% or 20% solutions is not going to help our Nation from going bankrupt. That is but a miniature issue compared to the grand scale of the problem. There has been a grand scheme in place and implemented by global elitists for the sole destruction of our Country. We cannot, any longer, as times past, compromise or give in to their demands. We must take a stand and say enough. That is our TEA Party stance. We don’t want to go along with politicians and corporations. We want to follow our founding fathers vision of small Government. We must seek the Christian principles and values that were the fabric of our Nation. The truth is, the only ones standing in our way, making the road to Liberty a bumpy one, are the ones who compromise, the one’s who are okay with a lesser form of evil, who depend on talking heads to make decisions, who seek Progressive solutions to get rid of Progressivism. Shall we ask our Masters how to proceed?

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    • Abraham Young
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:19am

      Dropping bombs, good enough for Bush, good enough for Obama. Anyone who doesn’t want to drop bombs must be a Constitutionalist.

      We don‘t need no stinkin’ Constitution, as long as it is OUR MAN dropping the bombs. Or running the Federal Reserve printing press.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 8:17am

      Phineas, if Obama had it his way he would appoint a Pherb to watch you in your day to day activities.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:08am

      Yo, mil mom, and your idea of brilliance is an ad hominem about drug use? nuff said.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:23am

      COLT, don’t worry, I don’t need any ideological convincing. I understand the dangers we face– you are preaching to the choir. I am now listening to the candidates who move on and get to the specifics. (I guess it’s true that BHO just spewed ideology during his campaign–and it worked for him….)

      The frustrating reality is that no President is going to be able to step in and make immediate sweeping changes without stepping on the Constitution– unless both houses of Congress are firmly in support. Bold and brave? Fine with me, as long as it’s done constitutionally–and good luck with that! Our truly bold Constitution is more like cautious and thorough as far as lawmaking is concerned. So the specifics of Ron Paul’s reforms are very important to me. How’s he planning on being bold and brave? Presidential mandates? Until he gets real and specific, I’m not listening anymore.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:36am

      @GETLIFE I agree. No candidate has really given much details on how they will actually implement their plans. Maybe an interview or analysis of their plans should be their next step. I’m trusting that the American people will wake up (like in 2010) and overwhelmingly vote in conservative Representatives and Senators in again. This should be able to keep most high standing leaders in step with restoring the Constitution. As far as Paul goes, I’ve heard him mention that he would write Executive Orders to change/cancel previous (unconstitutional) Orders, but will not use Orders to enact Laws. This is a good start, as there are many EO that go along with the UN’s Agenda 21. He would also appoint conservative justices, and dismantle federal agencies that are not in line with the Constitution by taking their funds away. He also would not authorize or order many of these federal bureaucracies to perform many of their (unconstitutional) tasks or functions, as they do need his approval in many cases to go on with their objectives.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:01am

      @getlife Following is a link about Ron Paul‘s balanced budget proposal entitled ’Plan to Restore America’. The link also includes a link to the proposal.

      http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9410-ron-paul-releases-the-only-presidential-candidate-balanced-budget-proposal

      420PATRIOT great posts!

      @Cat Ron Paul has already said that he will NOT run if not elected as the Republican candidate. But Donald Trump did say on Greta‘s show that if the candidate he supports doesn’t win, then he will run as an Independant. He did not say who that candidate is, but Trump will throw the election to Obeyme if he, Trump, doesn’t get his way.

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    • Earnyourkeep
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:04am

      It’s working because people are sick of liberal political correctness run amok.

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    • ChuyGuerra
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:24pm

      this is in Reply to jzs Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:13am;
      The flat tax has some possibility of actually working. you say “pay for the tax cut for the rich” remember who’s money it is, it’s the people that earn it. saying “pay for the tax cut for the rich” is like saying “pay for the tax cut for the dead” does the govt. find a way to “pay for the tax cut for the dead?” NO! the dead don’t earn anything, maybe their estate, but not them. If the rich or anyone else for that matter gets a tax cut, the govt. doesn’t pay for it, they need to budget better or find a way to replace the deficit. That said, there are more regular citizens then their are rich. it figures that more people paying in will be better. Now how about the foreigners that are not paying income tax now, but WILL pay with a flat tax? Tourism! Competition will have a zero sum effect, right now for the things you buy now and with a flat tax. right now a business calculates their cost of taxes per item sold and price it accordingly to be competitive, with a flat take they will have to do the same! zero effect. I will pay no more and no less then the market allows. Get informed, I want you to be informed so you can make more informed decisions, after all we both love our country and want the best for it, right?

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    • snakeyes4liberty
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:07pm

      My take is that the shot of the guy blowing smoke into the camera is sort of an “up yours” to the feds & liberals et al. Smoking in a TV advertisement is against FCC regulations. In fact, no tobacco ads are permitted on TV. So, this is a privately paid for political ad. The rules do not apply. The “weird smile” from Cain that slowly appears at the end, to me, is an action speaking louder than words! He looks directly into the eyes of anyone watching (Obama…). The kind of “sinister” smile (like the way you might have smiled at the class bully after you finally gathered the courage to give him a much deserved beat down). Cain’s smile says “You’re busted, Barry Obama! America isn’t going to take your bullying anymore!” Herman Cain is the man to beat the crap out of Barrack HUSSEIN Obama in 2012!

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Ktsayz
      Thanks for the update.
      Use to work around Mr. Trump
      He’s very cleaver.
      Don’t trust him.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Thanks for the info COLT and KTSAYZ. It is especially comforting to see Paul says he won’t run if someone else is nominated. Trump is all bluster. I don’t think he would do it either. Not the kind of guy to needlessly make conservative enemies.

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    • dennybug
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:54pm

      I dont know who these leftie idots are trying to fool with all their lies and rethoric. If I let it, it ****** me off with all the garbage they are spewing but, I just take a sec. and think they’re only hurting themselves. Us real americans all know it’s the content of the character and not the color of the skin! I would take Cain over Romney any day!

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    • beebacksoon
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:41pm

      PHINEAS T. BLUSTER
      I agree! I am not looking at color. And refuse to go the hate route, although when it comes to our prez’s decisions, EO;s and by-passing Congress, the “h” word sure wants to erupt!
      I am looking for leadership, number 1, and one who is like-minded with most Americans. We’ve been sending Cain what little we can afford, not due to his ads but, in our opinion, he’s the best choice. ALL the candidates bring something positive to the table. We may go with another, however, will stick to Cain right now. Use your best judgement, and send in a few dollars to YOUR favorite one. They can sure use every penny!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:18pm

      I think Trump’s guy might be Perry. The Blaze reported they were hanging out together a few weeks or more ago. Something seems odd about Trump and his new political involvement.

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    • GadsdenGurl
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:51pm

      Phineas T Bluster LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Teaparty-grammy
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:39pm

      @ MPILCH who Posted: “Guess you better reserve a room for me too. Does this mean we‘re on the White House’s “unacceptable list?” — Matt”

      Yeah, but not for long–only until its current inhabitants are kicked to the curb with the rest of the trash.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on October 30, 2011 at 12:22am

      If you want Cain to beat Obama we need to support him financially. And considering Herman is the best chance we have at beating Obama, we need to support him in every way possible. Send him what you can, but do send donations so he can keep up his surge to the front.
      And in case you are wondering… I do NOT work for his campaign in any capacity, I just want to see him win.

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    • charleyrocks
      Posted on October 30, 2011 at 2:30am

      Good for you Cain, the ad was perfect in other words government get out of my space and face.

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    • Mike Benton
      Posted on October 30, 2011 at 11:01am

      It’s like what Biden said of Obama: “…he’s a clean-cut Black guy who speaks good…” If that’s enough for the liberals, Cain should be their new star!

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  • phillipwgirard
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:22pm

    If CAIN does get in, i hope he stirs the $heisse out of Washington

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:52pm

      i don’t know… he seems like a jim carter to me.
      in the regard that he doesn’t know anything about what he is doing in washington…
      they are going to Rick Roll him…

      let’s say he does get in, he doesn’t even know the process or how anything works in washington… they are going to tell him, “you have to do this and that, it‘s the way it’s done”.. he will believe them because he has never been involved in the process and get his butt handed to him…

      To me, there is only one candidate who knows washington, knows their corruption, knows exactly how to stop it and isn’t going to let anyone buy him off.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:52pm

      Cain gets it, but do you? Hope and Change was easy to understand wasn’t it. You had better look closer at his 9.99 tax plan, you will be shocked. Just sayin’.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:16pm

      Yeah, I call BS on this article, this ad and his support. Americans cannot be stupid enough to vote for a former Federal Reserve chairman. If they really are, then they deserve the enslavement that will continue. When you have enough of your fake money enslavement, don’t come running to us sound money people. You dopes will be fighting on you’re own if you vote this treasonous criminal into office.

      Before you start peacocking, your ad hominem attacks won’t work. If I am wrong nothing happens to me. If YOU are wrong… well… enjoy the United Socialist States of Amerika.

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    • ncmtnman1940
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:38pm

      L love it too! Cain/Rubio, Cain/Bachman, Cain/Jindal. Good American all! I am a southern man who cares
      about character, not color, sex or national origin. Just are they good Americans and these surely are.

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:44pm

      I am all for Cain 2012. I know he was on the Federal Reserve board, but he does NOT support the weak money policies of the current Fed. I would love to see us move back towards a backed currency, but that isn’t going to happen overnight. Ron Paul may seem like the most principled candidate in the GOP race, but the only thing he might accomplish is ensuring Obama gets another 4…

      Cain / Anybody 2012

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:01pm

      ncmtnman1940 – Just to show you how dumb and uninformed you are. Rubio wasn’t born in the U.S., so it cannot be Cain/Rubio

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:16pm

      Umm… Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. last time I looked at a map it was in the US…

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    • miren
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:40am

      RED MEAT IS FOR ron paul!!!!!!!!!!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:52am

      @DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Hi newbie. You have only been posting for 4 days now and every one of your posts is in support of Marxism, socialism and communism. How much are you being paid by the MSM, Soros, the Tides Foundation and MSNBC? Be honest and cough up a believable answer. We all know who you are. Nice try but, you failed. Turn the light off in your parents basement and go back to bed.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:56am

      PoliticiansRCrooks is a liar and Marco was born in the USA.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:34am

      @jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:52pm
      i don’t know… he seems like a jim carter to me.
      in the regard that he doesn’t know anything about what he is doing in washington…
      they are going to Rick Roll him…

      let’s say he does get in, he doesn’t even know the process or how anything works in washington… they are going to tell him, “you have to do this and that, it‘s the way it’s done”.. he will believe them because he has never been involved in the process and get his butt handed to him…
      ***
      You’ve probably written the NEXT Herman Cain ad! Don’t worry, there’ll be enough NEW Congressmen & Senators, that They can make things work entirely differently in Washington, JUST LIKE THE FOUNDERS ENVISIONED IT!!!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:43am

      @PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:01pm
      ncmtnman1940 – Just to show you how dumb and uninformed you are. Rubio wasn’t born in the U.S., so it cannot be Cain/Rubio
      ***
      1/2 right. Rubio‘s father wasn’t a citizen at the time he was born, but to say that‘s why he can’t be President, Proves why obits-o can’t legally be either!! Problems, Problems, Problems!

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    • imacin2000
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:55am

      JBKibs- Let’s see if we can think this through. YOU SAY: let’s say he does get in, he doesn’t even know the process or how anything works in washington… they are going to tell him, “you have to do this and that, it‘s the way it’s done”.. he will believe them because he has never been involved in the process and get his butt handed to him… AND I ASK YOU: How many in Washington know the process and how it works and STILL SELL US DOWN THE RIVER!!! They follow the “have to do this and that, etc” and we get screwed. I’m-one-with-the-Tea-Party Boehner is a case in point. He always has an excuse why he didn’t get it done-and he always claims it’s the best he could do (not good enough). Herman Cain appears able to get it done-that’s his history. He’s a smart man, he knows how to get the info he needs. Right now, he’s my candidate. I don’t like everything he is proposing at this point, but the biggest thing in his favor is that he is a man of integrity. It seems he will support what’s best for America first, not necessarily what other countries think. Re Ron Paul, I love him, too. He is also a man of integrity/ Ron’s foreign policy positions are what worry me, even tho I can understand his reasoning and I often agree w/most of it. I think Ron lives in the “way it should be world” and Cain can assess on the way it is. Don’t have enough space here to be really to the point.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:58am

      Cain flip flopped and changed positions again and again. TARP, Al Awlaki assassination, bank bailouts, raising the debt ceiling, housing bubble, gun rights, 2008 recession, Federal Reserve audit and foreign policy. I‘ve noticed that lots of Cain’s new followers also supported Perry before, and before Perry, they supported Romney. All these candidates change depending on the audience or topic of the day. And apparently we have a flavor each month.

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    • pattybbb1
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:19am

      The ad is not politically correct. That’s what I like about it.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Oh yeah I’m a liar? http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article1197628.ece
      Get your facts straight Old Men

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    • Jackpine Savage
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:46pm

      JB Kibs,

      Really??
      You actually think that Cain is a total Idiot? He won’t know how a Bill becomes Law? (Guess he never saw the schoolhouse rock cartoon huh?) I have seen some really idiotic “reasons” pushed by you Cain haters, but this one takes the proverbial Cake. Anyone who has EVER held a real job knows that company politics is still Politics. I am so sick of hearing people claim Cain isn’t qualified because he has no political experience. All the idiots running the country into the ground in DC Have Lots of political experience, How’s that working so far??

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  • sprfldman
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:22pm

    I loved it!
    Here’s your winner folks….

    By a landslide!

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:35pm

      Cain/Rubio 2012!

      TEA!

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:41pm

      It’s the best political ad in my memory. Stroke of genius, even if it was at first directed to his core followers. It opened my wallet.

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    • fertlmind
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:44pm

      @CATB

      Maybe not Rubio,…he claims he’s out,….
      but Newt or Bachman would work as Cains VP

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:52pm

      @ fertlmind
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:44pm
      —————————————————————————
      Forget Gingrich. A couple of weeks ago I shared your sentiment, but after really digging into what the man represents on the world stage. NOT IN THIS LIFETIME will I allow my name to be tarnished by associating any idea’s with him.

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  • WAZTIM
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:17pm

    Bold plans. No political correctness. A breath of “Fresh Air” with a tint of tobacco smell. That ad shows everyone that there are still Free People willing to be themselves in America. Absolutely love it!! Go Cain!! Cain / Gingrich 2012. That is a ticket worth our support..

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:25pm

      really? that gets you excited? this is almost as bad as obama fever.

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:40pm

      @BR@DLEY

      Looking at your posts I think you still must be an Obamatron … so I guess you would know. Most people like Cain for his ideas, 9-9-9 plan included and his background … all Obama had was “Hope and Change” and a working teleprompter …. how’s that working out for you?

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:46pm

      i am very conservative. this is why i dont support raising taxes. cain apparently does. YOU seem like an obama supporter, blindly supporting some corporate schill, thinking you’ll get anything but more of the same. hopeless.

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    • mensaman62
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:51pm

      I opened my wallet prior to this ad. CAIN / NEWT 2012 (I think 4 letters each name would be a better bumper sticker) and I think Krista Branch’s “I Am America” is a great, and now my fovorite, song!

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:54pm

      cain wants to add 2 more taxes on the Federal Level. btw, this does not get rid of state taxes…
      adding more tax to already hurting people… hmmm, “good” king john…

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:01pm

      THANK GOD JB, finally someone with a bit of freaking common sense.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:23pm

      BR@DLEY I like Cain because for one he is not a rat lawyer! He has a solid business background. And mostly I like that he hasn’t lived off the government dole for the last 30yrs……

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    • chfields62
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Obviously, some of you people are using government math….Most taxpayers are paying well over 20% JUST IN INCOME TAX alone, plus state, city, county, etc…..those aren’t going away…But last time I checked 9% is better than 20%…..Now business instead of paying 35% or more will only pay 9% which is a 16% savings, which in turn would help lower costs to the consumer..which is great…..The 9% sales tax means everyone pays something in and those of us with real jobs that are actually paying for the freeloaders will see more money in our pocket and the freeloaders will start contributing. It is insane that half the people here don’t pay tax at all and are the ones screaming the loudest to raise the taxes on those who actually have to pay…….Get off your lazy a^% and get a job and contribute…………..

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:29pm

      http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collections/taxdistribution.cfm

      actually, the CBO would suggest that only the forth and fifth quintile pay upwards of 20% income tax. but you know, those are just the FACTS.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:43pm

      RepubliCorp,
      Ron Paul doesn’t participate in the Congressman pension plan.
      Also, he didn’t want to even be a congressman, he felt that it was his duty because our government was acting crazy, getting off the Gold standard, undeclared wars and many other rights violations… he made more money as a Doctor and loved doing it.

      plus, Ron will only take a 40k salary as president…

      if you are suggesting he is all about taking tax dollars… you might need to actually look into Ron’s background… just saying…

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:07pm

      chfields62,
      some states don’t have sales tax on items, such as food.
      some states don’t have income tax.
      then there is the fact that he wants to do 9-0-9 for the “poor”. first there is the whole police state aspect of controlling what are “new and used” items sold in stores, who isn’t going to say the item is used just to sell it tax free? you either have a sales tax or you don’t… you don’t do this new \ used stuff… not to mention wealthy people can invest their money to a “tides foundation” hence making, low profit, poverty level income and pay 0 income tax… that is how the current loop holes work in our tax code now… 0% income tax is the only fair and constitutional tax (right to property). and the sales tax and other taxes are left up to the states to generate revenue to pay the federal government to protect their liberties and conduct their daily duties.

      besides, the problem is not how much money the government makes. it is all the useless stuff they spend it on. not to mention the countless “missing trillions” we have had this administration… anyone ever look up AFRICOM?

      since Cain can’t even see the fact that we are overspending, not under collecting, and is supposed to be “conservative” i call BS on him… he is more of the same taxing, spending and EMPIRE building, policing the world and imposing our beliefs on others…

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    • fatjack
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:19pm

      Cain sounds like obama. The first words out of his mouth is taxes.

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    • TulsaTodd
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:47pm

      @J.B. & BR@DLEY:
      Perhaps we should study the 9-9-9 plan a little more. To see how our personal taxes will be affected, check out this 9-9-9 calculator:

      http://999calculator.net/

      Even my friends in Texas, who pay ZERO income taxes, save money under 9-9-9. If we are to have intelligent discussions on important issues, we should all commit to fully educating ourselves on said issues. =)

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    • JoeInMaine
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:51pm

      @BR@DLEY – The CBO? You mean the same CBO that scored Obamacare as a deficit reducer? THAT CBO??!!! Sorry, I can’t hold it…must go pee now! lol lol lol lol lol

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:54pm

      I‘ve done my taxes using the assumptions in Cain’s 9-9-9 tax plan. With a decidedly middle class income and a wife and 2 kids, I would be paying an additional $1,566 in federal income taxes, BUT I will save over $5,000 in payroll taxes (not including anything extra I may get from my employer). That looks like a net DECREASE in my tax bill. And before you rail about me forgetting about the 9% sales tax, it replaces several other taxes that are already in the prices of products, so there will be a natural downward pressure on prices that will compensate for this tax. You can pay the 9% taxes in hidden taxes, or out in the open, but you WILL pay the tax. At least Cain is being honest and getting them out in the open.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:56pm

      yes, many in the upper tax brakets will benefit. MOST americans will not.

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:25pm

      Br@dley – Assuming English is your primary language, what part of decidedly middle class was unclear? I am by no means in the upper class.

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:33pm

      Besides, there is a very easy game with numbers we can play… If 47% of US citizens pay no Federal income taxes, it is easy to say they will not benefit from his plan… Unless you can claim that the economic growth and job creation from this plan is a benefit. And THAT benefit will favor the lower and middle classes most significantly. “A rising tide lifts all boats”

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:39pm

      and michael moore claims to not be part of the 1%, i don’t know you anymore than him.

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  • Br@dley
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:12pm

    that is the dumbest campaign ad since the “i’m not a witch” one. what the hell are people thinking?

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:24pm

      BR@DLET, just curious, what was so dumb about it?

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:25pm

      Sorry, BR@DLEY

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:26pm

      The add was made for and sent to potential donors. The smoking has nothing to do with the message. The message is straight forward and to the point. It cost little to make and because of “in the box thinkers” and the MSM losing there minds over the smoking; it has improved his name recognition and made a money bomb. You must remember that this guy Ran the pizza shop. He didn’t deliver pizzas; Like you.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:31pm

      the cheesy music.
      the weird, creepy smile thing.
      the cigarette smoking for no apparent reason.

      no substance whatsoever.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:38pm

      potential donors like philip morris?

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:44pm

      “the cigarette smoking for no apparent reason.”

      Oh, there was a reason, a pretty obvious one. Block is a smoker and neither he nor Cain care about political correctness and the taboo that is placed upon smoking.

      It was a hugely symbolic act of defiance to the left’s oppressive moralism.

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    • Quiata
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:44pm

      Actually, Bradley, there is a point perhaps. Smoking is once again a rebellious act, just like drinking during Prohibition. It’s a way to say “up yours” with merely a gesture (and not the middle digit kind). And so what and who cares???

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    • Crakaveli
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:49pm

      they’re not thinking.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:50pm

      no substance.
      no plans to cut the debt.
      doesn’t have a problem in the world with the federal reserve (his ex-employer)
      wants to RAISE TAXES ON MOST OF US

      what is wrong with you people? WE NEED A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE!

      quit drinking the kool-aid.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:07pm

      Actually, the smoking bit was to remind people that Cain lobbied for the restaurant business and didn’t want the smoking bans put in place because of the potential loss of customers. Since Cain lost that battle, he‘s now smugly smiling that he’ll get even with those people who were able to institute the ban if he becomes prez.

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    • Fella
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:09pm

      You’d need some booze and cigarettes to figure out what they are thinking. Mostly booze, but that seems to go hand in hand with “conservatives” these days.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:28pm

      ISLESFORDIAN you said it! It’s a F-U to the PC left

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:49pm

      Islesfordian
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:44pm

      “the cigarette smoking for no apparent reason.”

      Oh, there was a reason, a pretty obvious one. Block is a smoker and neither he nor Cain care about political correctness and the taboo that is placed upon smoking.
      ========================================================

      If that’s the case then, Block shoulda’ fired up a big, fat joint then if he wanted to dispel any political correctness related to smoking…

      That woulda’ made a much larger impact!

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    • MinorityRightsAdvocate
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:58pm

      Br@dley: you are NOT conservative, you are a troll. I’ve seen your posts.
      9-9-9 is NOT a net increase in taxes, it is to transition away from the real problem which is income tax which is the road to serfdom. We should have NEVER taxed income, all taxation should be on consumption and trade ONLY. As soon as Woodrow Wilson started down the road of the INDIVIDUAL paying directly to the Federal Government via income, we have been since condemned as serfs.
      We need to fully be rid of income tax, but as long as the ammendment is in place, a flat 9 percent is a big step in the right direction.
      Once revenue EXPLODES to the Government if this happens, then the argument to REPEAL the income tax can be convincingly made and passed, and then we will set this nation back on the path of prosperity and freedom again.
      But I know you can’t understand this as a progressive brainwashed troll…

      http://minorityrightsadvocate.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/taxation-today-not-about-revenue-it-is-about-control/

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:31pm

      @minorityrightsactivist
      i am an independent conservative which means i think for myself. i don’t support the flavor of the week candidate. i bet you voted for bush AND mccain huh? and you liked bachmann, then perry and now cain. my dad is the same way, he waits for permission and guidance from “conservative” media before he supports anyone.

      sorry you are so ignorant on so many things. it’s okay, i was stupid once too.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:36pm

      ALSO, adding a 9% sales tax and 9% income tax (18%) on top of my existing state sales and income tax would put me at around 30%. what conservative thinks the government should get 30% of their income. I MAKE LESS THAN $75,000. that means i lose roughly $22,500 to taxes. that doesn’t include property tax either. WAKE UP PEOPLE, it‘s not conservative just because you’re told it is.

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:53pm

      Wow… bad at math too… Even if the taxes were completely additive, 9*3 doesn’t equal 30, you are off by a few thousand. Also, let’s assume a completely untrue and unrealistic scenario. $75,000*9%(income) = $6,750 (with no charitable deductions). $68,250*50% (assuming you spend about 1/2 on consumer products and food)*9%=$3,071.25 = TOTAL TAX OF $9,821.25 (you don’t pay corporate taxes, so don’t pretend you do. If you have a current effective tax rate of 6% (that is probably pretty close if you have more than the standard deductions) you currently pay $4,500 in fed income taxes. Add to that the payroll taxes of $5,737.50 and you have a total tax bill of $10,237.50. Good news!! You save money under Cain’s tax plan!! Besides, who could conceive of a more regressive and evil tax as a payroll tax? Who’s stupid idea was it to tax employment??

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:09am

      I will apologize and post a correction, you mentioned paying 18% and state taxes, I mistakenly thought you were adding in the 9% corporate taxes. Either way, under almost all conceivable scenarios, you would save money under Cain’s plan. And that is not including any of the intangibles such as the upward pressure on wages due to the elimination of employer paid FICA (and who are we kidding, the employer doesn’t pay these) and the downward pressure on prices by eliminating other taxes already figured into their prices.

      Again, sorry for being mistaken… I guess the bad a math can point at me too… :-(

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:06am

      @ISLESFORDIAN
      “…neither he nor Cain care about political correctness and the taboo that is placed upon smoking.
      It was a hugely symbolic act of defiance to the left’s oppressive moralism”
      ————-
      “Taboo?” “Oppressive moralism?”
      Guess God is guilty on both counts, then. There will be eating in heaven, but you’ll have to join the oppressive left in hell if you want to inhale smoke.

      That “act of defiance” was meant for the right, not the left. Cain needed to ingratiate himself with conservatives after his poor performance on abortion: “SEE? I’m your man. I hate big gubbermint. I have the right to kill others, myself and poison the air too. Woo-hoo. ”

      Also, he LIED when he said the smoking part was haphazardly included in the ad.

      Can’t wait to vote for this guy.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:57pm

      “Also, he LIED when he said the smoking part was haphazardly included in the ad”

      But he never actually said that, crypto. I admit he didn’t acknowledge the deliberate intent of the smoking, but he never said it was an accidental shot. They chose to leave it in, which means they chose to edit everything out but what they left in. They chose their shots and this was one of them. In a highlet edited format as this was there was nothing there they didn’t want there. It hardly matters to me if he plays coy about why they did it. That isn’t the kind of honesty I want in a candidate, since he isn’t deceiving anyone who has a brain.

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  • BO_Bill
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:11pm

    Credit where credit is due. That was an excellent ad by Federal Reserve Chairman Herman Cain. The appeal is that it flies in the face of over-reaching political correctness. However, for some reason which I just can’t figure out, I still worry that candidate Federal Reserve Chairman Herman Cain might be beholden to private banking interests.

    Therefore, perhaps it is time for a white male President, at least for one or two terms. If we get one of these guys, the press will be able to ask him critical and candid questions about his motivations and backers. Who knows, it might be a Hopeful Change.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:25pm

      You cannot put Cain in the same category as a fed chairman, nor unsinuate he is anything like bernanke and the keebler elf geihtner. bernanke and geihtner have been bought and by the progressives and G. Soreass

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:39pm

      Hey Bo; so this is how you spent your time the down at OWS. Sitting around reading the Blaze and pooping on cop cars. Look put the lap top down and try to find a non-fiction book on history or something. Take out the trash; just be useful for 5 minutes in your wasted life. Oh; and if your really worried wall street fat cats give Soros his tent and computer back and go protest out side the white house. No here is interested in your bigotry and Racism.

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    • TeaPartyanimal
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:40pm

      paranoid.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:06pm

      cain does want to add 2 more federal taxes on top of state level taxes…
      people are hurting, taxing more never helps…

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:14pm

      BO, it seems those in the tank for Cain are unwilling to vet the candidate. They don‘t mind that he’s as clueless about foreign policy as Obummer. They don’t mind that he was a lobbyist. They don‘t mind that he wasn’t a very good business man – opening 200 GP stores after he bought the business that he had to close putting hundreds of people out of work again. He left Godfather‘s because he knew he wasn’t making it a profitable company and didn’t know how to make it earn more profits. His expansion plan failed, just like he’ll fail as prez. But Cainbraindrains don’t mind. They‘re looking forward to 4 years of the same ol’ same ol’.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:39pm

      The Good: he isn’t Code Pink, OWS, Kucinich loving, blame America first Ron Pork Paul

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    • Fella
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:58pm

      The BAD: Pro-choice, pro-fed. The quintessential “do and say anything to get elected” politician that will continue the policies of previous administrations. Tax and spend, status-quo. With no foreign policy to speak of. Obama is going to eat this clown for lunch. GL everybody.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:30am

      @REPUBLICORP
      The Good: he isn’t Code Pink, OWS, Kucinich loving, blame America first Ron Pork Paul
      ———
      You’re cracking me up, man!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:28am

      How did this turn into a Ron Paul debate?

      As far as Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, Dennis K (can’t spell it), yes they might actually vote for Ron Paul’s stance against war (war only for defense). How many leftists will your candidate garner?

      U.S. Destabalizes entire Middle East, wastes $1 Trillion, Do you feel safer? More free? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtOfddom4Q

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    • Jackpine Savage
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 5:01pm

      Hey Bo_Bill, Do you use a corporate bank? If so, when the home office does somethng really stupid (Like BofA raising debit card rates) Do you blame it on your local BRANCH manager??
      Blaming Cain for the idiocy of the fed is no different.

      I know you lefties and paulbots (the 2 are often interchangeable) are falling over each other to destroy Cain, but at least try to put a little thought behind your attacks huh?

      I guess the big scary black Conservative has your panties in a twist or something.

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  • Crakaveli
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:09pm

    Cain supposedly raises $3 million in a month = all over the news.
    Paul raises $2 million in a day = *crickets*.

    I wonder who the media is pushing?

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    • John 1776
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:51pm

      I love Paul, but his view on Iran is why I favor Cain. Iran’s aspirations are not political, they are biblical. They will not build a Nuclear arsenal, they will build one or two bombs and use them!

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:14pm

      john… Ron Paul was for Israel defending themselves against Iran… it is the USA who has sanctions on Israel, we aren’t letting them fight Iran, it’s in the hands of the UN and NATO now.

      then there is the pesky little fact that we give more money to the surrounding countries of Israel than we do to Israel… we are basically funding the hate on Israel…

      Ron wants us to get out. (the same as Israel has asked us to do, they want their sovereignty back) (look it up, he came before our Congress) Netanyahu said basically, we do not need your aid, we appreciate it, we love you, but let us defend ourselves, our military is very capable.

      Paul wants to pull our aid out of all the places we are “propping up” against Israel, and stop aid to Israel (which is allowing US to control their actions), so they can do their thing on IRAN…

      what’s wrong with it? let Israel fight… if they call for help, and our congress approves and declares war, we WILL help, will WILL win, and we WILL come STRAIGHT HOME.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:37pm

      You know; talking to libertarians is just as hard as talking to Liberals. The only difference is you can hear libertarians better because they heads are only halfway stuck up there …….

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:24pm

      John 1776
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:51pm
      I love Paul, but his view on Iran is why I favor Cain.
      ==========================================

      You’d better check again:

      “Herman Cain agrees with Ron Paul’s position on assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPQw1xkAEow

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:35pm

      Billofrights,
      Sorry you feel that way. i am a libertarian and strict constitutionalist…

      you deny that we aid more enemies of Israel than we do Israel?
      check this map out, if you want, go ahead and look for more charts and maps… they all say the same thing… we give more to enemies of Israel… we aren’t helping them at all…
      we have enough weapons to wipe a nation out 25 times over, and yet… we can’t defend Israel properly? right… perpetual war = $$ and justifies a military industrial complex. we export more military weapons and items than we do anything else.

      Foreign Aid: http://marketplace.publicradio.org/maps/middle-east/us-aid.html

      i think this is the Netanyahu Speech… it might be a different one though, i’m truly sorry if it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQb6S-P29Vo

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:06pm

      JB.KIBS I am 100 percent for NOT giving a dime to any country that is our enemy. I would count most all of the countries we give aid to as just that. Israel deserves our support. I have seriously thought of voting for Paul in the past. Sadly he sees moral equivalence as a foreign policy. Just like the lefties. He fails to acknowledge the fact that terrorists have no real excuse for there actions but tyranny. And the Koran. Our country has had many misguided foreign policies but also no country has protected, liberated and saved so many people in all of history. If America really was Imperial and oppressive our borders would cover the globe. All we ask in return for there freedom is to not come blow us up. No other culture in the past or present has been sooo kind or peaceful (that’s right i said peaceful) than us. So NO; Ron Paul I don’t think we deserve what we get.

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    • Scooter123
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:42am

      Bill of rights- Libertarians are tired of trying to explain to all of you self-proclaimed conservatives that the only difference between you and a liberal is that liberals want to use big govt. to fund social welfare programs and so called conservatives want to use big govt. to police the world. you both don’t mind big govt. as long as it fits your policy objectives. so how can you call yourself conservative. there really is nothing conservative about conservatives today. truly sad.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:49am

      Scooter123 So basically if I read you correctly; any government means too much government. It’s not possible to you that there is any difference between a socialist government that claims and fails to take care of every man. And what I would view as a constitutional government that encouraged private citizens to freely choose to help their fellow man through hard times by means of charity. To you these are the same things? And to you; the use of military force to defend and protect our allies and our interests in the world is the same as jackbooted Nazi thugs oppressing the world. Sadly for you and many of your friends who have been blogging up this story all night you think your libertarians. And you speak with a smug arrogance that betrays your age. You are not a libertarian you a nihilist. You and your buddies here on this page have not a clue how to get the food on your plate or how to defend it from the real bad guys out there who would like to take it from you. You read a couple of books; you hangout in a tent; banging away at a laptop thinking the world would be better if only you could smoke your dope without worrying about cops. Your worldview is tiny. And your goals are selfish. A society, and a culture must exist with rules or it is destroyed by anarchy. This then means there is only one question to answer; how do we balance the rights of the individual against the need for social structure.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:57am

      United States Constitution attempted to place the majority of that responsibility and freedom with the individual and that individuals society. And it worked very well. It would work well again but we are locked in a struggle against collectivists. The world libertarians in vision does not exist anywhere in human history. For a country or a culture without the minimum required structure falls victim to totalitarianism. This country got as close to the libertarian world you’re dreaming of as it can get without falling into anarchy under the articles of Confederation. The articles of Confederation failed because the balance between the individual and his government could not be reached. Your average dope smoking libertarian is a nihilist longing for a utopian society that does not and could not exist. This makes you as tragic and foolish as your average commie who thinks dictators give up their power once they’re no longer needed. And the sad as socialists who think there is such a thing as benevolent dictatorship.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 6:17am

      @BILLOFRIGHTS
      Well said.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:25am

      @Billofrights I believe you misconstrued Scooter123′s comment. You did not deny that you both want big Government. What we mean by big Government is an all encompassing Government that intrudes into the private lives and industry of its Citizens. The opposite of a big Government would be a limited Government, which would by nature (considering its functions and purpose) be small. We do not seek the Government to solve our personal issues. Your assertion of the user’s position concerning charity is false. No one said that. In fact its your point of view that is in conflict. If you truly believe that a constitutional Government should encouraged private citizens to freely choose to help their fellow man through hard times by means of charity, you would follow the same logic and reasoning when considering foreign Nations. As the Government should not take the fruit and resources from one group of Citizens to help another, but should instead allow its own Citizenry to help, so also, no Government should take the fruit and resources from its Citizenry to help another Citizenry and Government in a foreign land. As always, there are exceptions, but no Nation should depend on our mutual friendship and alliance based on the amount of money we give to them. We seek no bribes or hand out charity on conditions. No one has implied the abandonment of our allies in the World when facing evil or imminent threat on their land. We have always and always will be there to protect freedom.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:34am

      @Billofrights I cannot talk for Scooter1234 and don’t know where his political stance is, but as for me, I’m a Conservative and Constitutional Republican. I don’t know if I got in the middle of you conversation, so if I read something incorrectly, I apologize. I believe Libertarianism is the heart of Conservatism, but that Conservatism is the best balance between the need for Government and the need to be free individuals. Out common goals should be Liberty and Independence for our Nation. Any other distractions will lead to our fall and destruction. Divisions and factions will always exist but our common heritage and desire to be free should always unite us.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 8:37am

      @Billofrights,

      As soon as he posted that Herman Cain said the same thing as Ron Paul, there was silence, and then the debate shifted onto other subjects. Did you and other concede that point or are you folks ignoring it completely?

      Conservative-socialism is ok, liberal socialism is bad. Welfare bad, farm subsidy good. Small government good, constitutional amendment (Michelle Bachmann) prohibiting gay marriage amongst the states bad. Individual liberty good, legalization of drugs bad. Redistributing money from citizens to aide Saudia Arabia bad, redistributing money from citizens to Israel good.

      I personally do not support drug use or drunkenness (alcohol)
      I support Israel, but would not support federal-socialism for the redistribution moneys to any country
      I oppose gay marriage (I don’t support sin of any kind) but the right for states to decide what is best for them
      I oppose pornography (the act must be among consenting adults), but pornography should be legal
      I oppose prostitution, but it should be legal among consenting adults

      I believe in Jesus Christ, he is my savior – people should be able to practice religion freely

      This is called liberty, Christ gave us liberty to be good or to be evil, to believe or to deny. I would think consented government should do the same.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 8:44am

      correction:

      I personally do not support drug use or drunkenness (alcohol), but support peoples ability and access to do it.

      Also, if we look at things from a philosophical perspective rather than what liberals do (utilitarian perspective), not only will we be more consistent, we will have more liberty.

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    • Scooter123
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:47am

      Bill of rights- libertarians don’t believe in no govt they believe in local govt. the fact that you do not understand the difference shows how little you understand the constitution and those who wrote it. “It has been said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then be trusted with the government of others?“ Thomas Jefferson ”Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a govt without newspapers or newspapers without govt, I shall not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.” Thomas Jefferson All powers not specifically given to the federal govt are reserved for local and state govt. does that sound like no govt to you? you must not really believe in the constitution.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:56am

      @LIBERTARIAN
      “Christ gave us liberty to be good or to be evil, to believe or to deny. I would think consented government should do the same.”
      —–
      Not so, brother. You are advocating anarchy, not liberty. Want to see where your philosophy would take us? Look at Africa.

      God never gave us liberty to be good or evil. He gave us the CHOICE to do good or evil, and there are consequences for doing evil, the first one being that you lose your liberty. Technically, we already lost it, and need to recover it through Jesus. (CONT.)

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:01pm

      @LIBERTARIAN (CONT.)
      Your definition of liberty is the Bible’s definition of sin: “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way (Isa. 53: 6).

      People are not free to do evil in a civilized society. God gave us commandments. We can choose to depart from them, but we will pay the consequences both in this life and the next. Self-government must be predicated on the Rule of Law, but who decides what is good and evil? Our reference used to be the Bible. Then countless isms were introduced to replace God. It was never the Founders intent that every state in the Union should decide what is good or evil. Principles are the agglutinating factor in any society, and “two cannot walk together unless they agree.”

      Concerning government, the Apostle Paul says:

      “Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.”
      (Rom. 13: 3-4).

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:23pm

      @Kryoptonite,

      I am not advocating anarchy; I am advocating the constitution and liberty. I don’t want to get into a theological debate, because I do not want to espouse false doctrine. I am not a biblical scholar – though my God is the Lord Jesus Christ.

      In a “civilized society” would you support a law against all sin? Ban pornography, lying (perjury is not permittable), coveting, et al? We are all sinners, which is why we NEED Christ. I am not advocating for sin, but advocating that we not punish people for sin that does not initiate force against another individual. So, even though it is law, I would not cast a stone upon a sinner by jailing them if their sin did not initiate force or infringe onto another’s rights.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:21pm

      @LIBERTARIAN
      would you support a law against all sin?
      —
      No I support punishing acts of evil. Government can’t punish a man who lusts after a woman, but if he rapes her, yes. We agree on that. However, the rule of law is always founded on a given set of principles, and I don’t agree that we are at “liberty” to change or undermine the moral foundation of our country, as we see fit. That is where liberty devolves into anarchy, i.e., everyone goes his own way. For example, we don’t have the right to change our foundational definition of marriage, which is between a man and a woman. We don’t have the right to get high anywhere, anytime, because drug addiction affects the brain negatively, and that correlates with asocial behavior, and so on.

      Currently we are at a crossroads, because our entire value system, the cornerstone of our constitutional Republic is being threatened by two opposing systems, namely communism and Islamism. The concept of good and evil under those value systems is drastically different, which means that the rule of law automatically changes. Same goes for the fringe libertarian value system, but it will not win.

      LATER

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    • Scooter123
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:43pm

      krypyonite- no one should be able to use the govt to push their values onto others and that includes you. why is a communists or fascists use of govt any less dangerous to liberty than yours, you both want to use the govt to control the behavior of others. is it because you have good intentions? the path to hell is paved with good intentions. no one has the right to dictate to others how they should live, as long as no harm is being done.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:58pm

      @kryptonite I absolutely agree with your last posts regarding God and country. I sincerely believe that that the abandonment and ignorance of our once cherished Common Law is the cause of most of our Union’s problems. Within that ancient set of precepts and judicial rulings was the protection of our ancient rights and preservation of our Christian heritage. Our departure from this bulwark of sacred traditions and form of Governance has been the demise and destruction of our free Nation. There was a time when Courts of Law were governed by the principles and values of our Bible, and juries were to judge both law and fact, and their ruling could not be appealed. The people were sovereign, wholly accountable to God alone, and subject to no man, only answerable to those whom they transgressed against. The highest authority was God.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:38am

      @COLT
      The highest authority was God.
      ————
      Colt, a moving comment. But then, how can you not understand that there have been two and only two nations in the history of mankind, Israel and America, whose founders recognized and embraced God’s sovereign rule? America and Israel are not mere allies; they are covenant nations:
      http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=10494&news_iv_ctrl=1141

      Israel birthed Messiah, and will one day enthrone him on earth. We enthroned Jesus in our hearts and have shown the world what a nation that serves Christ is like. The world system hates America and Israel, but the source of that hatred is spiritual. That’s why American liberals hate their own country. They don’t want to literally destroy it, but they have worked with dark passion to transform us into one more pagan nation that spits in the face of God. I hope this is not it for us.

      It may be that none of the Repub candidates are in tune with the Holy Spirit. However, unlike the others, Ron Paul is spiritually distanced from Israel. He’s actually pretty close to Obama in that regard. Sure, his libertarian ideas are appealing to the natural man, but he does not see Israel through God’s eyes. Just like Jesus calls us his Bride, God the Father sees himself as a husband to Israel. Yes, Israel was unfaithful, but God operates in eternity:
      (CONT.)

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:45am

      @COLT (CONT.)
      => “The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them…” They will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest… for I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the LORD Almighty is his name: “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight…will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.” (Jer. 31: 31-36) Amen.

      I don’t know where you stand on this issue but, not surprisingly, Paul attracts people who share his spiritual detachment from Israel. I had started to reply to your other comment, when I scrolled back up and saw this one. I decided to discuss my position from a spiritual standpoint, so you would understand the main (although not the only) reason why I wouldn’t vote for Paul: I’m not going to poke God in the eye. God bless, brother.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:43pm

      @kryptonite I do understand that America is exceptional among the Nations of the World and unique in all of World history, because of its recognition of God’s sovereignty. The reason liberals and progressives hate this Nation, as it once stood and barely stands now, is because they don’t know God and his destiny and Providence over this Nation. They have been influenced by Marxism and have practically grown up in a virtual communist system wherein there is no God. Actually, the reason I do support Ron Paul is because he is the only Candidate that will strictly adhere to the Constitution. Our Constitution was made for a Christian people. No other people would be able to govern within the limits and restraints of our Constitution without disregarding individual rights, private property, divine influence, personal responsibility, self dependence, charity, education, religion, federalism, etc. We were by the grace of God blessed with the most civil and religious Liberty ever gained in the whole World because we were deemed responsible, grateful and willing to do what was right and good in the eyes of the Lord. We had integrity, discipline and moral virtue. We chose the good old paths and were not moved. How I long for those days! Go to http://biblereview.wordpress.com/ I wrote a brief post there a while back ago about America’s Story.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:47pm

      @kryptonite As far as Paul goes, he believes Israel is able to and will take care of Iran. Paul also was among a very few that supported Israel when they attacked Iraq’s facilities.

      “My friends, you don’t need to do nation building in Israel. We’re already built. You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it. You don’t need to send American troops to defend Israel. We defend ourselves.” Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, – May 2011 before the U.S. Congress

      Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that understands Israel and respects her Sovereignty. The truth is Paul has been slandered by the media and Establishment. Paul would stop foreign aid to all of Israel’s enemies and end our conditional subsidies that keeps Israel dependent on our terms. Let Israel be free and righteously defend herself.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:05pm

      @kryptonite Here are a few links that explain Paul’s foreign policy. The thing to consider is this, its based on the Rule of Law, the federal Constitution, and Christian principles and values. It does put the American people first.

      Remember this Bush? youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc

      Ron Paul’s Left Wing Foreign Policy? lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/15795.html

      Was Bill Buckley’s foreign policy leftist? dailycaller.com/2011/08/25/was-bill-buckley-a-foreign-policy-leftist/

      Paul’s Foreign Policy: Peace & Respect – Not Intimidation, Bribes & War
      youtube.com/watch?v=XtQTTSmc-CU

      Paul – Blessed are the Peacemakers! The Christian Foreign Policy
      youtube.com/watch?v=93rqgoXftqQ

      Ron Paul’s Pro-America Foreign Policy
      youtube.com/watch?v=r-AHmGXJ0WM

      “The means of defense AGAINST FOREIGN DANGER, historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.” – James Madison

      How did Hitler implement his great army and force? He said, when announcing the Gestapo to the people, “An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great Nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:35pm

      @COLT
      Too many links! (I watched the ones you previously posted, though.)

      We see eye to eye regarding American exceptionalism. However, I believe you are misguided about Paul. He’s not the strong, spiritual man he now purports to be. For ex., he made clear pro-choice statements in one of his books:
      http://www.dailypaul.com/180123/can-no-longer-support-ron-paul-morning-after-pill?page=5

      That was a political slip, not unlike Obama’s “spread the wealth around” and Cain’s own slip regarding his true stance on abortion (similar to Paul’s). Those flash moments when the subconscious surfaces to express your innermost beliefs can’t be retracted, no matter how hard you try to backpedal. But back to Israel.

      Netanyahu made that statement because Israel has never wanted nation-building or peace-keeping troops on Israeli soil. God called them to be the one true theocracy under the law of Moses — as you describe in your poignant piece, America was birthed under the law of Christ — and that included military dependence on God. However, political sovereignty is not synonymous with spiritual sovereignty. Israel retained the former but lost the latter; they strayed and replaced God with Zionism. However, God allowed it so they could remain separate unto him, i.e., a JEWISH state. It is why Bibi publicly lectured Obama on why if Israel went back to the 1967 borders it would no longer be a Jewish state.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:52pm

      @COLT (CONT.)
      Ron Paul is all for political sovereignty – so am I. However, he absolutely lacks an understanding of Israel’s spiritual dependence on us, the Christian nation. We are the protective big brother who stands in the path of the bullies. It is our solemn duty before Jehovah Almighty to signal to all of Israel’s enemies, “Don’t mess with Israel!” That has NOT been Paul’s message. Instead, his policy has focused on Israel’s political sovereignty, even though Israel’s political sovereignty is a given (at least until Obama).

      OTOH, Israel’s security relies heavily on the political statements every new American president makes. That is why all the other presidential candidates know they must emphatically declare to Israel’s enemies that we have Israel’s back. Although Paul has stated that he would support Israel if necessary, that’s the position of an ALLY and a far cry from the position of spiritual brother God has entrusted us with. The natural man cannot grasp any of this. That’s why I said Paul was SPIRITUALLY detached from Israel. You should be able to discern that, Colt, since you are obviously a spiritual man. People who are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic don’t perceive the spiritual dimension, but they do gravitate towards Paul because the spirit of antichrist is at work in the world (them). In Christ.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 2, 2011 at 2:09am

      @kryptonite I clearly see what you mean. I believe the same but for one thing. Israel was divided into North and South. America and her common brothers are spiritual Israel, or the Northern Kingdom. The Jews today, of the Southern Kingdom (comprised mostly from the tribe of Judah, Benjamin and Levi), make up modern Israel and other Jewish communities around the World. We both, America (and her common ancestors) with Israel (and all Jews), have a covenant with God. However, the founding fathers never had an extreme favoritism or special relationship with Jews or their communities, other than offering them tolerance and respect within our country, and by extension equal protection as fellow Citizens. Part of modern Judaism has been corrupted from biblical Judaism by the introduction of mystical and foreign customs. The State of Israel, though the home for Jews, will, as foretold, be occupied by the anti-Christ. Judaism, as a religion and people, has been infiltrated. Them ‘which say they are Jews, and are not’ have devised wicked schemes to overtake the seat of power in Israel, Jerusalem. To which we cannot do much about as its in the hand of God. Our role in the Bible as America is to remain the bearer of God’s standard and to preach the Gospel. To remain free we must restore our Constitutional Republic and Common Law. Its the only form of Government that proclaims God as Sovereign and acknowledges us as a Christian Nation wholly accountable to God for our acts.

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  • John 1776
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:08pm

    The “Real” message that I get out of the ad is “Don’t expect us to be Politically Correct.” As one who is very tired of PC speeches and ads, I find it a relief!

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    • Big Momma Cat
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:33pm

      You’re right on!
      I haven’t heard this expression in a very long time but to me he is saying:
      I’m not just blowing smoke our of my ears!

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    • Do The Right Thing
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:36am

      I agree wholeheartedly with you, John 1776. I also think it would be terrific to not have an attorney in the White House, especially the kind not authorized to practice law.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:08pm

    It was a simple stroke of genius to get great bang for the buck… And it ends with Cain smiling like the cat who ate the canary.

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    • Big Momma Cat
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:36pm

      I love his smile—very friendly.

      I also like and understand his jokes. I joke in the same manner. It just comes out—no thought about PC nonsense!

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  • May262001
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:07pm

    I’m support Cain/Newt

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  • phillipwgirard
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:04pm

    Does anyone here think a CAIN/PAUL or vis-versa ticket would be good? I do.

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    • All Pro
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:11pm

      It wont happen. Ron Paul has to much integrity to run on the same ticket as a two faced liar and a shill for the federal reserve.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:15pm

      Newt is the one who can destroy the progs.. He understands them and their alinsky rules better than they could ever hope to. They can‘t lie about Clinton’s success without running into the truth that Newt forced Clinton out of his liberal takeover.

      Newt has his pledges on paper for all to see and has a mandate if elected, to act on it. He is their worst nightmare and he can easily drag a Conservative majority into office with him.

      Newt guarantees victory and there is nothing the progs can do to salvage their alinsky empire! They cannot debate him and they cannot demonize him any more than they have already, and nobody cares about a divorce 20 years ago anyway… NEWT HAS THE RECORD, THE MEANS AND THE SKILLS TO DESTROY THE OBAMA AGENDA!

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:28pm

      Thanks for the input people, i better widen my views

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    • fatjack
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:29pm

      Ghandi was a Republican, I too am lending heavily towards Newt. I like Bachmann, but don’t think at this time she has much of a chance.

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    • muzikant
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:14pm

      Paul would make an ideal secretary of treasury

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  • republapig
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:01pm

    I quit cigs almost 20 years ago and don’t miss them.
    But I love hearing the gasps of the PC libs: “He’s SMOKING!”
    Go Cain. I think he’s our best choice.

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    • May262001
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:05pm

      They should of had him smoking a joint, he could of got some lib supporters:)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • KusoJiJi
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:58pm

    I took the smoking part of the ad as a rejection of political correction. It was telling the Democrats to take their political correctness and stuff it up their asses.

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  • drftrapani
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:57pm

    Trump/Cain is the ticket I want to vote for!
    drftrapani

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    • TeaPartyanimal
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:43pm

      donald trump would damage cain. Trump is an egomaniac, albeit smart businessman. Any humbleness of cain would be drowned out.

      Trump just needs to keep running his TV show.

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  • Truth1776
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:56pm

    Cain in 2012!

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  • godlovinmom
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:52pm

    I like Herman, Michelle, Newt…the others not so much…acutally it was kind of refreshing to see someone smoking…all this pc crap is getting old.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:28pm

      I don’t think it has anything to do with that stupid ad. I think it has to do with the fact that Jordan Gehrke, campaign director for Cain, has been able to convince many so-called conservative blogs to send out emails to those blogs’ subscribers with a sponsored announcement pitching Cain and begging for money. How many here have received their email from The Blaze? I have. Also got it from several other sites. I feel like I’m back in 2008 with the inundation of mybarackomama-ites.
      The masses have become as hypnotized by Cain as they were for Barry. There is no vetting being done by these sites just as the MSM refused to vet Barry. Seems these sites are willing to exchange the community organizer for a lobbyist who has a FRB resume.
      Cain outright lies during the debates and it’s never mentioned. Cain whines and cries about his treatment by Rove and the ‘other’ Republicans and his behavior is exused. No one is asking WHY Cain was hired to be on the board at the Fed right AFTER he took a $30,000,000 loan from Citibank – did Citibank have anything to do with him getting that position? After all, the Fed determines monetary policy. Did Cain push monetary policies that would benefit Citibank? We‘ll never know if the questions aren’t asked.
      He also made mistakes once he bought GP. Expanded it by opening 200 stores then had to shut them down putting many out of work. We don’t need another prez who will make stupid mistakes. Wake up, people. You’re being conned by Cain.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:49pm

      KTSAYZ…you are right…don’t like the idea that cain worked for the federal reserrve…don’t like the fact that newt cheated on his wife…don’t like the fact that ron paul is VERY weak on defense…don’t like the fact that romney has his socialized medicine…don’t like the fact that perry once worked for gore…you know we really need to pay attention to these canidates and truly vet them…unlike the 2008 election…most knew the truth about obama and couldn’t see pass the color of his skin. Like I said…the field is narrow…Too bad our decision has to based on who hasn’t made the most mistakes….nice

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:11pm

      KTSAYZ; So I walk into this party and this guy is standing there trying so hard to be the smartest person in the room. Spouting off about this and that. Talking all smug and elitist. Telling half truths and out right lies just to be right. I figure it’s a 100 percent chance he is either a Liberal or a Libertarian. So… Which one are you?

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:27pm

      Just kidding KTSAYZ. I know your a Libertarian. This story’s blog is just full of them today. Could it be that the RonPaulotrons are worried about the pizza man. Paul is great on some things but sadly batshit crazy about too many other things. And an anisemite to boot. So good luck with that buddy. He will NEVER get my vote. Semper FI

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:56pm

      Thank you GodLovinMom, the lack of vetting of ALL the candidates has me very worried. This election is too important to be slack in that area.
      As for you, Bill o Frights, are you afraid to ask the tough questions because of what will be found? Tell me where the half-truths and outright lies are in what I posted. Didn‘t you receive the Blaze’s endorsement email from Cain’s campain? Give me your email addy and I’ll forward to you what I received. Cain lied during the Bloomberg debate about his stance on auditing the Fed.
      http://www.ipolitics360.com/Videos/HERMANCAINLIEDTOYOUmov-VpT1nk-YUxo.htm
      Though he did tell the truth when he said he didn’t call anyone ignorant – he called them ‘STUPID’. I’m sure you, Bill o Frights, have his book. Go check out page 154 and tell me if he didn’t call people stupid.
      I didn‘t even mention all the Cain ’misspeaks’ – like he’d release every GITMO detainee in exchange for one US POW.
      http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/18/herman-cain-sure-i-can-see-myself-releasing-everyone-at-gitmo-in-exchange-for-one-u-s-pow/
      Great foreign policy, dontcha think?

       
    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 6:36am

      @GODLOVINMOM
      Calling smoking “refreshing” is like calling hell “heavenly.” You don‘t know what you’re saying. When did America become so dismally disinformed?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:01am

      GODLOVINMOM
      Too bad our decision has to based on who hasn’t made the most mistakes
      —————-
      It’s a hard pill to swallow, but our decision should be based on who stands the best chance of beating Obama. Obama is a traitor. He will destroy the Republic if he stays on and, God help us, it may already be too late.

      Except for Ron Paul all the other candidates believe in American exceptionalism. If we keep on bickering about who’s a RINO (the libertarian mantra), we will lose our country — forever. Call me what you like, but that’s the bottom line.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 7:46am

      @KRYPTONYTE Paul has always said that America is exceptional. Let me guess, Santorum told you that Paul said America was not exceptional?

      http://uwire.com/2011/09/26/congressman-ron-paul-revives-american-exceptionalism/

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 9:59am

      @COLT
      I believe we have been an exceptional country,” Paul said, adding that the nation could be exceptional again. “When the example is set, others will emulate us.”
      The “exceptional” aspects of the nation have been mitigated by the federal government, he explained.
      —-
      There is nothing exceptional about the “live and let live” motto. It is one of many false notions of liberty, founded on self-centeredness and lack of compassion, rather than on Christlike love and altruism.

      Exceptionalism has become lost to the newer generations because of people like Paul and Obama, who blame America for the hate directed at us by the enemies of God and freedom. An empire’s exceptionalism can best be ascertained by whether it treats the weak and wicked like God would. We have protected the weak and shared of our manifold blessings with them. We have also confronted evil with fairness and bravery. Every war we have lost can trace its failure back to the non-interventionist activism of liberals and fringe libertarians.

      It is not the federal government that has robbed us of our exceptionalism. The Word of God says: Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it (Ps. 127: 1). We need a revival to sweep across this nation. That’ll put as back where we were.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:17pm

      COLT (CONT.)
      where we were before we broke our covenant with God.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:43pm

      @kryptonite I don’t know where you got the “live and let live” reference from. I don’t ascribe to that philosophy with respect to Government. As for Paul, he has never blamed the American people. He has many times denied that false assumption, and stated that he blames the false or failing policies of our very Progressive federal Government. We Conservatives blame certain Congressman and even our own President and their agendas. We by that, do not mean to blame America. Liberals have not been non-interventionist. In fact, it is us Republicans that usually came in after the Democrats to stop their interventions across the World. Take Clinton as an example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_clinton#Military_and_foreign_events Bush‘s foreign policy countered Clinton’s militarism youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc We were a unabashed Christian Nation at one time, and were the envy of the World. Paul is for a humble and godly foreign policy. He bases his stance on the Constitution, the Rule of Law, and Christian principles and values. Please view these videos:

      youtube.com/watch?v=XtQTTSmc-CU
      youtube.com/watch?v=93rqgoXftqQ
      youtube.com/watch?v=r-AHmGXJ0WM

      I hope you consider the following links with an open mind. I do believe we have common beliefs. My mission is to restore the founding principles and values of our Nation, revive the Christian faith and spirit of our forefathers, and reinstate the Constitutional offices and duties of our Republican State.

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  • eubanksray
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:51pm

    Cain is a great grass roots, Tea Party Republican that pretty much says it all…..Now if he could get Newt as VP….we could get things done.!!

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:59pm

      I don’t trust Newt. Plus, I’m not so hot about his personal life. Someone that isn’t loyal to a spouse will find it easy to be disloyal in any other facet of life.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:21pm

      Get real reason.,. Nobody cares about someones personal life if he‘s not lying about it and he’s not in a blackmailable position because of it – like clinton. The Clinton’s are crooks and Clinton gave away Billions of tax dollars and intelligence trying to buy off all manner of evidence to protect his lies ($8 billion to NK for example – the oval office is not secure and every espionage entity had him in their pocket). BIG BIG Difference..

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    • Capitalist Mama
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:47pm

      I kind of have a problem with the way Newt went after Clinton while simultaneously having an affair. Speaker of the House is a blackmail-able position as well. I don’t trust him.

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  • GOA_AMD65
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:51pm

    Federal Reserve Chairman Herman Cain!

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  • All Pro
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:51pm

    Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same. Herman Cain is more of the same.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:57pm

      If you are not on the Cain Train, then you are laying tracks for a Romney nomination — you seem to be an ALL PRO track layer for Romney. Yup, a regular “John Henry” for Romney.

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    • Quiata
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:56pm

      @ALL PRO Okay, Mr. Torrance, it’s time to take care of the Overlook Hotel now. Put the typewriter away, because all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy…. ;^)

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:00pm

      Herman Cain is more of the same. Lies during debates Herman Cain is more than the same. Cries because Rove mentions his name. Herman Cain is more of the same. Can‘t take any critisim and complains that ’they’, the other Republicans, are getting on his ‘last nerve’. Herman Cain is more of the same. After he bought the pizza joint, he expanded it and it did even worse causing him to close the 200 stores he just opened. Herman Cain is more of the same. He was a lobbyist which aint that different than a community organizer. Herman Cain is more of the same. Federal Reserve Bank insider. Herman Cain is more of the same. Wants to create a new tax without. Herman Cain is more of the same. Flip flopper – oh let me count the ways: muslims, homosexuals, abortion, federal reserve audit, debt ceiling, killing al-Aulaki, a 2005 article writes about Cain flip flopping on troop withdrawl from Iraq
      http://www.newshounds.us/2005/12/03/herman_cain_flipflops_on_iraq_withdrawal.php
      Herma Cain is more of the same.
      Thank you AllPro for that catchy phrase. I had fun playing!

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    • Fella
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:16pm

      Remember when supporting bailouts was a fireable offense by the Tea Party? Why does Cain get a pass now?

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    • Do The Right Thing
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:47am

      @allpro… Hey there bud, I‘ve got an old player piano I’d like to introduce to your keyboard, I believe they’d get along great!!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:56am

      ATTENTION all passengers on board the Cain Train: this Train is heading off a cliff. I repeat: this Train is heading off a cliff. We are now assessing the situation. Please remain calm as you wait for further instructions.

      Cain is the same as McCain. We will loose again.

      I’m a Conservative and I will not vote for another two face lobbyist. I will only vote for a candidate that proposes a plan to have huge spending cuts, elimination (not restructure) of unnecessary federal departments and agencies (especially the Department of Education), creates no new taxes, downsizes the federal workforce, does not raise the debt ceiling, does not bailout private corporations, implements sound monetary policies, limits the federal Government through a strict adherence to the federal Constitution, stops funding the UN, removes the US’ membership out of the UN, does not direct the Federal Reserve Chairman to print more money into the economy, makes a stand against abortions by signing pro life bills, appoints conservative judges, brings our troops home to secure our own borders, does not send our troops to foreign nations to protect their Rulers and Citizens, gives a big HELL NO! to the global elitists and their Marxist agenda, eliminates the IRS and acts to abolish the federal Income Tax, stops all federal subsidies to private companies, drills here now, removes tough business regulations, understands the economy, and seeks free market solutions. THE ORIGINAL TEA PARTY!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 3:24am

      Oh, I almost forgot.

      … fully supports the Second Amendment, dismantles the ATF and FDA, does not raise taxes, lowers taxes, stops borrowing money (especially from foreign nations), stops giving money away to foreign nations and our enemies, stops the Nanny State, and ends the dang Welfare State. THE ORIGINAL TEA PARTY!

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  • 8jrts
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:51pm

    Of course Cain expected to win on this commercial…he knew what he was doing. It got him free attention. Too bad he doesn‘t know what he’s doing with his 999 plan. I did the numbers for myself, and without a mortgage tax deduction, my taxes will go up just over $1000 a year. As a widow working 3 part time jobs now to keep my home, I don’t have time to work another job just to pay for more federal tax and more sales tax. Cains plan may help people over $50,000 a year but not those just under that, that own homes like myself…and there are a lot of us in that income bracket. Cain will put me out on the streets with his plan. Those of you who like his plan need to pull out your tax returns and do the math before you make your decision. Don’t forget….you still have to pay state and local sales taxes on top of Cains taxes.

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    • Hickory
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:06pm

      8j, look at it closer. I think you will see no change in your tax status.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:35pm

      Hickory
      I only have that one deduction besides myself, at 9% that’s what it adds up to…what other numbers should I be adding/subtracting?? Please tell me what you think I am missing. Cains plan says “no deductions”. I take him at his word.
      Besides state tax, on top of our NJ 7% sales, then there is 9% sales…..which I don’t believe for a minute will stay at 9%. That’s a whopping 16% on new goods…I don’t buy used food or underwear, and somehow I don’t think a used car dealer will not find a way to charge that tax. It may be old, but if it’s new to me, they will charge me tax on it.
      I see Newt as a much better candidate in all areas. Cain is a very likable guy, but unless you can convince me his plan won’t hurt most of us, I won’t vote for him. I wrote Cain and asked him to convince me and I would volunteer for him….haven’t heard from him yet.

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    • TeaPartyanimal
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 7:51pm

      But apparently you can handle a large mortgage deduction….which only helps if you add up all your tax deductions with the mortgage and jump over that hurdle getting only the extra over the hurdle.

      What I dont get is why people think 20% flat tax is better. 9%…..20%……hmmmmmm which is better? oh yeah, he gives you the standard deduction. so what?

      I prefer my tax being permanently 9% thank you. And they wont be able to change it once it becomes law. People are hungry for it. Its been looked at by experts and it raises the revenues and it will bring jobs to america like nobodies business.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:27pm

      WOW!! What’s not to understand? 9% of my current income is way more than my current tax minus my deductions. I admire Cain for many reasons, but I will not vote for Cain. I encourage all to do their OWN math with their OWN TAX numbers before they vote.

      “I prefer my tax being permanently 9% thank you. And they wont be able to change it once it becomes law.”
      I don‘t believe for one moment that law can’t be changed…..it won’t stay at 9% any more than sales tax will.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:48pm

      TeaPartyanimal, I don’t like the idea of paying double taxes on my hard earned savings. I’ve already paid taxes on my savings. Pay taxes on them again no way.

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    • Hickory
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:54pm

      No payroll taxes.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:18pm

      @Hickory, you said “No payroll taxes.”

      Wrong.

      Talking Point: It eliminates the 15.3% Payroll Tax

      What Cain is failing to note is that the majority of middle-class taxpayers (me included) receive a wage from an employer. Currently, we have Social Security and Medicare deductions from our gross wages (FICA) at 5.65% (7.65% in all previous years). Our employer then has to match it. The 15.3% is the combination of our portion and the employer’s paid portion. 7.65% X 2 = 15.30%. Most Americans, unless they are self-employed, will not save 15.3% because of his plan.

      http://www.congressarizona.org/2011/%E2%80%9C9-9-9%E2%80%9D-what-herman-cain%E2%80%99s-not-saying/

      more from the link: Almost 100% of my middle-class taxpaying clients itemize their deductions on their tax returns not because of charitable contributions but because of the mortgage interest deduction. Sadly, Cain’s plan removes the incentives provided for the growth of family and acquirement of home ownership.
      8JRTS, the link also provides an example close to your concern proving under Cain’s plan people will pay more taxes.
      It‘s unfortunate that so many have been swept up by a train that’s going nowhere but down down the track to further destruction and ruin for our great country. I‘m praying the Cainbrain’s come out of their Obummer-like obsession and begin to actually vet Cain. I’m afraid though, just like the Obeyme-ites, these Cainites won‘t wake up until it’s too late.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:25pm

      Look Libertarians and gentlemen; You guys are talking as if any of these “tax plans” are going into affect the minute the guy is sworn in. We all know that the establishment politicians won’t have that. We need leadership and bold ideas. As long as a flat tax or a 999 plan or what ever else is just a stepping stone to a day when the socialist 16th amendment abomination is removed from MY beloved Constitution I’m good with it; for a start. Commi, statist, socialist, liberal, progressives have been whittling away at our founding docs for a hundred years. Let us the Oath Keepers; the lovers of Liberty! Unite! For OUR enemies are strong! But we are stronger! With the Grace of The Almighty our Iron will and 80 million guns we can defend our constitution from all enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC. Here’s an idea; Lets save America from those who would destroy her first. Then we can pick the fly @!#$ from the pepper! Semper Fi

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    • nationalcalvin
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:54pm

      @kysaytz

      Okay you will get an extra 7% on your paycheck. You pay a 9% income tax, which will leave you with a total tax bill of 2%.

      Okay now your employer will not have to pay that 7%. Average payroll cost for business is 30%. That will come out to 2.3% reduction in the cost of doing business.

      Now their are multiple business to business transactions before the finished product reaches the retail level. Lets say their is four different levels of production. That would be 2.3% + 2.3% + 2.3% + 2.3% = 9.2%

      Just from eliminating the payroll tax you have more than made up the 9% sales tax. This doesn’t even take into account the dramatic decrease of the corporate tax. Which would give business the capital to expand and grow, meaning more jobs.

      And don‘t try and tell me that business won’t lower their prices, that’s just dumb. If they didn’t pass those savings on to their customers than their competitors will.

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    • JoeInMaine
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:03pm

      @ BR@DLEY – “ALSO, adding a 9% sales tax and 9% income tax (18%) on top of my existing state sales and income tax would put me at around 30%”

      Ummm. What part of “throw out the existing tax code and REPLACE it…” do you not understand? Jeez. Don‘t they teach you Paulbots anything down there in Mom’s basement?

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    • JoeInMaine
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:11pm

      @ KTSAYZ – “Almost 100% of my middle-class taxpaying clients itemize their deductions on their tax returns not because of charitable contributions but because of the mortgage interest deduction.”

      Spoken like someone who makes their living on the back of the 10-million word tax code…. You got a little special interest sauce on your chin there, fella.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:28pm

      @KTsayz
      Great link! Thanks. I hope all read it!! Again…..people….do the math with your own taxes and see if you still like the plan!

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    • BuckeyeDuck
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:28am

      8jrts –

      Did you account for the elimination of the payroll taxes? Even if your employer pockets their 1/2, you will still see your income go UP by 7.65%. Add that to the lower marginal rate and most people will benefit, even in the mid to lower mid tax brackets. I know there are some people who will pay more under 9-9-9 and some who will pay less, but you can‘t do tax reform that doesn’t have that outcome. If people want to keep trucking down the same old path…

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    • red1
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:37am

      The 9-9-9 plan was designed to raise approximately the same revenue as our current tax code. It actually raises slighty less. The economy as a whole will be paying the same amount of taxes. Obviously the effects on individuals will vary. Some will pay more and some will pay less, but what you pay will no longer be hidden from you.

      The benefits of Cain‘s plan don’t come from reduced taxes. The benefits come from the plans effect on the economy. A lower corporate tax rate of 9% instantly makes American business more competitve with their foreign competition, translating into more jobs at home.

      Also not to be ignored is the reduction in compliance costs from the current tax code. Currently individuals and businesses pay over $300 billion a year to comply. These savings should translate into an increase in investment and greater economic growth.

      Cain’s ultimate goal is not the 9-9-9 plan but a replacement of all other taxes with a simple Fair Tax. I think the plan deserves serious consideration at a minimum.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:35am

      @8JRTS You’re Welcome!

      @Joemaine quote “Ummm. What part of “throw out the existing tax code and REPLACE it…” do you not understand? Jeez. Don‘t they teach you Paulbots anything down there in Mom’s basement?”

      Throwing out the existing tax code does not throw out the states’ existing tax code. Cain’s 999 does not affect state and local taxes which remain the same. If that’s not what you meant, then please clarify.

      The biggest problem with Cain’s 999 is that it is not the Fair Tax. He’s abandoned that. If he was serious he would not create baby steps to get to where he wants. He’s supposed to be bold or something. This plan institutes a new tax and states without consumption taxes will not go for it. And by eliminating capital gains taxes he is helping the very wealthy who only live on their capital gains.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:31pm

      8JRTS
      then there is 9% sales…..which I don’t believe for a minute will stay at 9%
      ———-
      Well you’re right about that. Cain is emphatic that the 9% tax won’t go up for three reasons: he will be in charge, it would require a two-thirds majority vote in Congress and, most importantly, the American people won’t let it happen. Well, Mr. Cain, those are three giant piles of cow dung. To borrow one of the few honest statements Obum has ever made, “Under your plan, taxes would necessarily skyrocket.”

      Tick, tick, tick…BOOM!

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 4:49pm

      Nationalcalvin
      Believe there is a flaw in your calculations.
      Follow the path of a $50.00 component intended for combined assembly and retail sale
      No one in the chain is going to eat the tax.

      2.3% tax added to the component’s cost, then sold to the next assembler.
      $50.00×2.3%=$51.15
      Then 2.3% added to the next assembler’s component and sold to final assembler.
      $51.15×2.3%=$53.32 (round up, it’s the government)
      Then 2.3% added to the final assembler’s component costs.
      $53.32×2.3%=$54.54 (round up, it’s the government)
      Then 2.3% added at retail.
      $54.54×2.3%=$55.79 (rounded)

      $50.00-$55.79=$5.79
      That’s 11.58% in total tax collected from the generation of the original component.

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  • AzDebi
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:47pm

    Good! The PC mentality in this country has got to stop! I think the commercial is saying, “We’re gonna do things DIFFERENTLY”…I LOVE IT!

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  • smokie
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:47pm

    I like it. It’s unvarnished.

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:46pm

    I’m betting a lot of smokers who have felt like the untouchables of American politics and law received that ad like a breath of fresh air. Not that they would know what fresh air is. :-)

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  • garyM
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:45pm

    Talk about Herman if you will, he is the most honest down to earth candidate in the field. Besides that Herman is the only GOP candidate that can beat Obama without creating a civil war among the predudice black people. You can‘t ever give them a status or perk that they don’t consider permanant. They’ll never accept any other color but black in the Oval office now. Many white people are right there with them against there on race, blame that on affirmative action endoctrination!

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 8:10pm

      garyM
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:45pm

      Talk about Herman if you will, he is the most honest down to earth candidate in the field.
      ================================================

      Except when he’s flip-flopping on his answers to questions:

      Herman Cain’s Top 7 Policy Reversals
      By AMY BINGHAM
      Oct. 24, 2011
      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/herman-cains-top-flip-flops/story?id=14790284

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:26pm

      So now we are to believe that the only reason to elect Cain for the Repub nomination is because he is black?
      This confirms my suspicions – it’s not about ability, but to prove whites aren’t racists. Though I thought that was proved when Obummner was elected. I guess that‘s why Cain isn’t being vetted – he‘s black and it’s verboten to vet black candidates.
      God help America.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:27pm

      KidCharlemagne, if people will read your link, they will change their mind.

      Thanks for posting.

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:43pm

      Ronpaulotons; Guys we are supposed to be on the same side. You have to give up on this whole vetting thing. Really? You think that the msm will not vet Cain or any other Republican candidate. Take a deep breath put down End the Fed for a minute. Go for a walk in the park and get some fresh air. Herman Cain sat on the board of the Federal Reserve in Kansas City that’s a long way from being the Federal Reserve chairman. If you’re trying to make points with people who support Cain to get them to take a second look at Ron Paul you will get nowhere with fibs.Ron Paul is a good man with many good ideas. So is her Herman Cain. If Ron Paul became president he would get nowhere because he is a weak leader. His moral equivalence foreign-policy will get him nowhere with most American voters. I know that you really really really want Ron Paul to be president but really think about what the MSM would do to him. Ron Paul would leave us in gridlock at home and with the foreign-policy wolves outside our door. I don’t know about you but I hope that whoever gets the Republican nomination will get all of our support. Even if it’s Romney. But if it is Romney it will probably be my last Republican vote. Down with the ruling political class and intellectual elites!

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    • britlynz
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:33am

      As the coalition of kooks (aka the 99%) continues to stink up a park in a city near you, the Tea Party continues to reinvigorate that nearly forgotten peaceful form of revolution called an election. Folks, this is one of the most mind blowing things I have ever witnessed. Not only did the Tea Party upset the status quo during the 2010 elections, but it is poised to trigger an earthquake during the 2012 Presidential election.

      The days of hair helmets, scrubbed faces, phony smiles and cliched weasel responses to tough questions may come to an end. In its place we may see a level of honesty that reveals a man for who he is.

      This Cain phenomenon is proof that Americans are ignoring the media elite and the political experts.

      Elect the fart I’m the Church.
      Cain 2012

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    • Scooter123
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 1:12am

      Bill of rights- Cain did not just sit on the board of the k.c. fed he was president of the board. when you say put down the fed thing you prove that you like most do not understand the impact of the fed. so here you go. the fed prints money and loans it to govts creating debt. through this debt they obtain policies from the govts to create the boom and bust economic cycles that concentrate wealth (think mortgages) they also use this debt to effect foreign policy as iran and north korea are two of the last countries on earth without a rostchild controlled central bank. when the govt needs a loan they have to go to a privately owned bank. can you seriously not see how that leads to control of the govt? why are you happy allowing a few global banking families control all the govts of the world? also, can you find an example in all of history of a fiat currency that did not eventually collapse? are you willing to allow the fed to print money devaluing what is in your pocket so they can loan it to whomever?

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    • Billofrights
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 2:20am

      Scooter123 okay, this is it,this is the last spanking of the night for you and then I’m sending you off to bed. The Federal Reserve does not print money. That would be the Treasury Department. But hey thanks for the class man. For the record I have no problem with gold standard in getting rid of the Fed. Ron Paul’s monetary policies are not repeat are not the reason he will never be president and why I will never vote for him. Why don’t you check out some books not authored by Ron Paul or Michael Moore. Now Scooter is your bedtime. How’s that for condescension?

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    • Scooter123
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:09am

      Billofrights- the fed authorizes the printing of money independent of govt, who cares who actually prints it. our money is used as a weapon. what started the arab spring, hint it was not people unhappy with dictators, it was the price of food, why did the price of food go up? printing dollars. why is the chinese govt upset? because they understand that printing dollars only devalues the treasury bonds they hold and since most transactions require dollars food and all other commodities cost more. it is called inflation and it is a hidden tax on you as well. once again i suggest you study why our foreign policy is not what the founders intended, and it has nothing to do with keeping you safe. Ron Paul does not want to cut defense spending(15% cut) he merely wants to bring the troops home and close most of our overseas bases. How is that dangerous and stupid, sounds pretty smart to me. how does bombing anyone who has never attacked you make you safer? it actually does the opposite.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:45pm

    If you want to ride on the Cain Train you should buy a ticket. I believe Herman is the conductor to lead us to recovery in the same spirit as Ronald Reagan.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:51pm

      I think Ozzy said it best “All Aboard the Crazy Train!!!”

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:53pm

      You are correct, Sir! Folks need to either get on the Cain Train or realize that they are laying tracks for a Romney nomination. (Would that be a “Romination”?)

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 9:29pm

      Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 28, 2011 at 6:53pm

      You are correct, Sir! Folks need to either get on the Cain Train or realize that they are laying tracks for a Romney nomination. (Would that be a “Romination”?)
      =============================================

      What’s so bad about that?:

      Romney has the leadership qualities United States needs
      By HERMAN CAIN
      Published on: 02/03/08
      http://www.gaformitt.com/2008/02/herman-cain-endorses-gov-romney.html

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:48am

      We are not even on the same planet as in 2008. Politically and economically we have been set on a course by the soros‘ alinsky’s that no ordinary politcal expedient can reverse. Reagan showed us the way and it is called ‘bold colors’
      Any resemblance to an appeaser is a dangerous course.
      The time is now to punch back square between the eyes however hard and however long is necessary to teach our kids the difference between winners and the losers they have been indoctrinated to follow. They say Bush- you say pelosi!.. They say racist- you say progressive.
      They say Cain – you say obama! They say Newt – you say the 90′s contract that save America!
      They are trying to revise history and they must be confronted with truth!

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