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‘There’s Never Been a Bias’: Bachmann’s Attempt to Clarify Opinions on Gays

Michele and Marcus Bachmann Discuss Homosexuality With People Magazine

It’s been a few months since Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her husband, Marcus, came under fire for their seemingly controversial clinic and past statements they have made about homosexuality. Now, it seems the husband and wife duo are attempting to clarify their opinions on gays and lesbians in an upcoming issue of People Magazine.

In the past, Michele came under fire for saying that homosexuality causes bondage, despair and “enslavement,“ while her husband has purportedly compared gays and lesbians to ”barbarians.” However, the Bachmanns feel that their statements may have been taken out of context or that they were not properly framed by the media.

In the upcoming issue of People, the couple defends themselves against claims that they are anti-gay. While Marcus says, “There’s never been a bias,” Michele claims, “I’m no better than anyone else.”

The Huffington Post has more about the interview that will likely inspire controversy and discussion among Bachmann’s fans and foes, alike:

People also talked to Michele Bachmann’s gay stepsister, Helen LaFave, who Bachmann said she loved. LaFave said, “Yes, we are family and love each other, but she seems to have a disconnect. Her statements and actions related to gay rights are very hurtful, whether she understands that or not.” Their once-close relationship reportedly strained over Bachmann’s anti-gay activism.

Michele and Marcus Bachmann Discuss Homosexuality With People MagazineThis isn’t the first time that the Bachmanns have attempted to clarify their positions on homosexuality. In July, Marcus spoke with the Star Tribune, where he addressed what he saw as misconceptions concerning his stance on the issue.

In addressing the allegation that he called homosexuals “barbarians,” he said, “I was talking in reference to children. Nothing, nothing to do with homosexuality. That’s not my mindset. That’s not my belief system. That’s not the way I would talk.” He also discussed “reparative therapy” (a controversial counseling approach that seeks to alleviate individuals of their same-sex attraction).

Perhaps the upcoming People interview will help clarify where the couple stands. It’s likely that both will say that they oppose gay marriage, but that they do not oppose individuals who happen to be gay. Based on their past attempts at clarifying their opinions on the matter, this seems like the balance they will attempt to strike.

(H/T: Huffington Post)

Comments (141)

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  • SafeguardOurLiberty
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:43pm

    Too late Michele, you blew it

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  • bruce_baker
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:12pm

    The “jury is still out” as far as the scientific community on gays.

    The truth is, it‘s either genetic or it’s a choice.

    If it’s a choice, it should be illegal.

    If it’s genetic, that is a call for modern medical science to find a cure, not for us to transform our society.

    The Bible has much to say on this issue.

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    • Centralsville
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:25pm

      There is no gay gene. There is no bisexual gene. There is no transvestite gene. There is no pedophilia gene.

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:56pm

      BB,
      You are out of your mind. Let the Bible be the Bible and mind your own affairs.
      Let gays be happy and it is none of your business what other people do.
      Remember, God is an imaginary figure .

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:00pm

      CENTRALVILLE,
      But there is a stupidity gene, looks like you have that one.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:16pm

      KOCHLEFFEL
      Why should something that causes so much disease not be illegal. Government is in the process of restricting or making illegal transfat, too much salt & too many calories. Obesity cause a lot of health costs due to diabetes & heart disease.
      Gay sex cause a loth pf health care costs due to HIV infections.

      Overeating in many cases as well as gay sex are choices. Why shouldn’t both be proscribed by law?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:10pm

      There is no gay gene, and every time those on the progressive left have tried to prove such, it gets proved false.

      Homosexuality is not a choice, it is a series of choices and usually combined with bad environment.

      Here is a little fact that the left and the gays do not like talked about. Since the 50s, the fastest growing group of homosexuals (ethnically) in the US is African Americans. Just last year, black men (6% of the population), made up 65% of new HIV cases, and it came from male on male sex. Are we to assume that black men are more prone to the gay gene? Not only is that assumption false, it would violate some serious PC rules. What do we know about blacks in America environmentally? Seven in ten are born outside of marriage. Most are raised without a father. More black males go to prison than to college, and they make up 40% of the total prison pop. It is behind bars that many blacks get their intro to homosexuality (love on the down low). Blacks are 12% of the population, but commit 49% of murders, 64% of rapes, and 75% of armed robberies. Liberal and democrat programs have really beat down the black community, and done much negatively to the environment in which they live. Now we see rapid homosexuality. It is not a genetic issue, it is a sin issue. It is based on a series of bad choices, and thrives in bad environments. Homosexuality destroys nations. I wish we had a politician with a back bone that would stand and say the truth.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:17pm

      @WALKABOUT
      “Why should something that causes so much disease not be illegal”

      What in the world are you talking about? Gays do not have much disease. You are being mean to those poor gay people.

      They are only about two percent of the population, and that small percent only has around 80% of HIV, 64% of Syphilis, commit one third of child molestations, have disproportionate amount of gonorrhea, hepatitis, have higher drug and alcohol rates, highest suicide rates, gay bowel syndrome….

      These people are a bastions of health. Heck, we should put them in the military.

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    • preservefreedom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:41pm

      KOCHLEFFEL, God is hardly imaginary.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:20pm

      Science is the 100% Reproducable. Anything else… is a Scientist with an Opinion… or a Scientific Procedure being used to come to a conclusion (an Educated Guess)… or a PseudoScience, where application to Humans always finds varied results!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:52pm

      rangerp
      I enjoyed making the transfat argument. I skewered the libs but good. If I had made a religious/moral argument, the libs (especially gays) would say religious arguments are kooky. they would further say what 2 consenting adults do is none of your business. But some of these same libs want to ban transfat & prescribe & proscribe what a person can eat because of health care costs. Well we have the stats & healthcare costs on the devastation the AIDS epidemic causes. Can we not make the same argument? A good lib should make the argument for consistencies sake.

      Notice that no lib has fired back at my argument. They don’t dare. I have a small expectation that JZS might take a pit shot in the we hours of the morning after most people have stopped posting so he can refute it & make it look like he has done so.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:39pm

      Don’t go tooting your own horn too much Walkabout. The problem is, your analogy makes no sense. You can ban trans fats, and there would hopefully be a decline in public obesity. However, not allowing gays to marry or even simply disapproving of them does nothing to reduce the rates of HIV, which would burden the health care system regardless of whether anyone approves of homosexuality.

      The origins of the AIDS epidemic in the gay community reach back to the 80s, when homosexuality was far less socially accepted–so there is no reason to think that discouraging homosexuality would make people more healthy. We do know, however, that social acceptance to lead people to less risky behaviors, and awareness programs can convince people to get tested and engage in safe sex. So which way seems like the more healthy choice to you?

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    • agape7
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:55pm

      The jury is NOT still out. On April 14, 2003, the International Human Genome Consortium completed its 13 year project at the cost of $2.7, involving hundreds of scientists at 20 sequencing centers in China, France, Germany, Great Britain, Japan and United States. Their task was to map the DNA code. You didn’t hear about it because one of the results was there was NO homosexual gene. So, it is Not genetic. It is nurture not nature. Simply a behavior.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:34pm

      Step aside, Michele. You‘re just wasting everyone’s time, now. It was fun while it lasted, but you’re done. No one cares what you think about gays except your constituency back in Minnesota.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:55pm

      PubliusPencilman

      “We do know, however, that social acceptance to lead people to less risky behaviors, and awareness programs can convince people to get tested and engage in safe sex. So which way seems like the more healthy choice to you?”

      You are referring to “Tolerance and HIV” (or similar study) by Andrew M. Francis and Hugo M. Mialon of September 3, 2009, which was widely bandied about by the gay community. As of 2 years ago tolerance/acceptance of gays was slightly above 50%. According this study HIV infections would lower by 1 per 100k by 20% increase in the GSS (acceptance) score. So max we are looking at 2.5 per 100K decrease. I don’t think the decrease would be long lasting.

      http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00049456.htm

      Off the top of my head it looks like it would make a 1% to 25% difference depending on the area. In the large cities the effect would not be noticeable except to the CDC. I think that if society did not care what gays did at all, gays would go right back to opening bath houses. Further if you tell them there is a drug treatment/cure, many will go back to barebacking. Sorry but I know your crowd too well.

      “According to our estimates, a twenty percentage point rise in the GSS measure of tolerance, which corresponds roughly to the extent to which the measure increased from 1990 to today, is associated with a decrease in the HIV rate of approximately one case per 100,000 population.”

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:03pm

      PubliusPencilman
      BTW I know where the local “bath” house (read hot house as in germ breeding ground or AIDS Central) is in my area. I drove someone to a bus terminal early one morning. U stayed with them until the bus left, because you can never tell what might happen when not many people are out & it is dark in a city. I noticed cars kept pulling into business’s parking lot. there were always 4 or 5 cars there & they never stayed more than 15 minutes on average. I guess the AIDS epidemic must be fed.

      Sometimes I get the feeling that if we just ignored the gay community & let them get married, that they would eventually get bored of the whole thing & drop it. So long as we did not rub it in their faces & made no mention of it, the whole gay things would go a way in a few generations as people get a better understanding of genetics & psychology

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:13pm

      agape7
      There are what just under 40,000 (~ 38K) genes in the human genome. I thought that scientists has studied 2,000 of them extensively to understand genetic diseases. So there are genes that they have sequenced their bases, but they probably don’t know what they do or exactly what they do. So there is hope (?) for gays that there is a gay gene. But your right if they would have found a gay gene they would have made a lot of noise about it.

      There is also a theory as to why if gays don’t reproduce that they would still be around, “reproductive skew”. I don’t know if any further work has been done on it.

      I still think the Bible is applicable, if for no other reason than the “purity” laws. It doesn‘t a matter if man was merely the scribe putting God’s word to parchment or was the author, the laws are good laws to live by. They kept humanity alive. The LGBT community does not want to face that fact.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:19pm

      veruca salt
      Michelle has more stand on issues than just the social issues.

      Michele Bachman came to prominence in2008 based solely on her stand against TARP. She was right the Wall Street bankers did not need a bailout.

      the only reason the gay thing comes up because that is how the left once to eliminate her as a challenger. They will bring it up repeatedly to the exclusion of her policy stands on national security, foreign policy & everything else until they destroy her as a candidate. That is how the left rolls.

      Everything the left does is crappola, but if the they can sink Republicans on single issues such as gays they will. If they do America loses.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:52am

      I agree with Bruce, and add only that I have Not seen credible scientific evidence that it is anything other than an “orientation”/chosen way of looking at sexual identity. therefore IMO ought be criminalized to discourage experimentation. And I note the Huff Po interview with the “Gay” stepsister seems give a typical response from one caught in that web of homosexual deceit . Those choosing the ID Gay claim any question of the lifestyle hurtful whether honest /and or fact based or not. It appears the hedonistic inculcation common to the times.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 6:56am

      @Walkabout

      I fear we may be a day late, and a dollar short.

      Without a doubt, homosexuality destroys nations. It has in the past, and it will in the future. Gays started their big push decades ago. The moved slowly at first, and recently are moving very fast. The got their “agenda” rooted deep into MTV, MSM, public schools.

      I joined the Army back 87. If you randomly took 100 soldiers, put them in a room, and said “raise your hand if you believe it ok for gays to serve among you”. You would have heard crickets, and saw now hands.

      Do the same today, and half the hands (or more) would go up. They were forced to drink the PC kool aid, and were indoctrinated. Many of these kids never stepped foot in a church, were raised with any type of morality training, are well versed in humanism (The state religion that teaches ‘if it feels good, do it”. They do not have knowledge of world history, as they were educated in a dumbed down school system that prefers indoctrination over education. These young people are also ignorant to the disease and destruction caused by homosexuals.

      American men sat back quit, munching cheese puffs, drinking their beer, watching pro sports, while the MSM pushed homosexuality on half hour sit-coms. Fathers did not get involved in the curriculum of the local public shools, and allowed themselves to be castrated in the raising of their family. Now America will pay the price. We went over the edge, and are too far to come back.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:02am

      @WALKABOUT

      PubicPencilNeck does not have a clue. He and other believe that if you just let the gays have their way, and accept gay marriage, we will be one big gay loving nation of happy people.

      It does not happen. They are a perverse people, and they go deeper and deeper into perversion. Once gay marriage is allowed, they will start pushing to lower the age of consent, so they can have sex with children. Check out Greece and Rome.

      We showed where homosexuality is a biproduct of bad environments and bad choices. You can not make chicken salad out of chicken crap. they are bad people, they do bad things. Study crime stats. gays commit one third of child molestations.

      the more accepted gays become, the higher the crime rates, the more assaults, the more child molestations, the more disease. Sit back and watch, it is coming faster and faster.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 9:39am

      Walkabout,

      We could certainly argue about the effectiveness of more openness and awareness campaigns, but the point here is that this is the ONLY way to address these concerns about disease–the alternative is what got us into this mess in the first place. Therefore, your whole transfats argument is blown to heck. If you really are concerned about disease rates, you would advocate for gay marriage, since establishing a norm of monogamy in the gay community would do quite a lot to slow disease transmission.

      Ranger,

      I realize that you are bitter that your old bigotted ways are being left behind, and that you feel “castrated.” I’ll just say that often in these debates, the loudest and most vehement anti-gay folks are closeted homosexuals themselves full of self-loathing. Why don’t you give up this charade and come out already?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:07am

      @PubliusPencilman

      Nothing new about your argument. Libs first try the old “you are a homophobe” technique. they are usuall pretty stunned when it fails to work. Instead of looking at the history, facts, Bible, medical info…. that I provide (libs can not argue), they try a new tecnhique. The old “you are a closet gay”/.

      Sorry, it does not work either. I keep telling the truth about the degenerate sodomites.

      You are partially correct. People like me are a dying breed. Homosexuality is getting more and more accepted every day. You sit there with a smile on your face, while the boat fills up with water. when you sink, you will realize the folley of your ways.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:45am

      I’m not shocked is “didn’t work.” Never underestimate the power of denial. But really–keep spewing the same old nonsense on these boards. It’s entertaining for those of us who are actually winning the fight for greater social freedoms in a free country.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Pencil Neck

      Yep, you are winning the fight,. we get more homosexual as a nation every year. Just think, in a few years down the road, there will be 40 year old men having sex with 13 year old boys. It will be just like Greece and Rome back in the day. And when the entire nation collapses around you, you can all hug and be gay and happy and the great strides you made in civil rights.

      Study a reprobate in the Bible. Nations can become reprobat also, in that they get to a point of being so evil, they no longer even realize they are evil. they are beyond help. Nations have been there before, and homosexuality is one of the key ways a nations becomes reprobate.

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  • gmoneytx
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:07pm

    for the very first time, I agree with her. SHE IS NO BETTER!

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  • Minnaloushe
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:57pm

    So much of this so-called “conversation” can be summarized by saying:
    “My fairy tales are better than your fairy tales!”
    “Nyaaahh! No! MY fairy tales are better than YOUR fairy tales!”

    Everyone knows, of course, that MY fairy tales are THE best.

    And as for “Hate the sin love the sinner”. BS!!!

    No. Wait…!

    As a misanthrope, tt’s not that I *hate* other people. I love other people. I just hate the fact that they breathe! Yeah. That’s it.

    And that’s the highest level of rhetoric I intend to use considering the forum.

     
    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:07pm

      Creation or evolution?

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    • toto
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:22pm

      It seems to me that any aberrant behavior is now to be culturally codified as acceptable as long as someone wants to do it. I didn’t buy it then, and I don’t buy it now. Societal norms have been turned on their ear and if anyone speak against it, off with their heads! Don‘t know if the world is capable of coming to it’s senses, but the fact remains that there are some behaviors that are unhealthy and damage society and are not worthy of elevation to the new normal.

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  • ROMANS 10-9
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:48pm

    If there were a pill to fix the Gay condition,
    they would have to be Baker Acted
    to receive the healing cure.

    The sickness is mental and they
    are unable to face the facts,
    but only see the world as against them.

    We are not against them,
    but we do want to protect
    our children from them.

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    • Minnaloushe
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:01pm

      One day, people will be cured of the religious schizophrenia that has benighted humanity since recorded history. Don’t worry. I know you religious people will rail against me, but remember: you‘re mentally ill and don’t know any better so you should be treated with compassion.

       
    • Faith1029
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:02pm

      If you choose not to believe what God has to say, that is your choice, but you will untimately face the consequences of that choice. If you want to know if Jesus is real, if He really does exist and has a plan for your life, get on your knees and ask Him to reveal Himself to you and if you are sincere, He will answer you. God will not be mocked. Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

      1 Corintians 6:9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:42pm

      Minnaloushe

      You sound pretty delusional in your desires that religious people are found to be mentally ill.
      Does you desire extend to the religious left? When they look for the root causes of schizophrenia, they look for specific alleles, physical trauma, etc for causes. When most religious believers are not found to have any oh theses what will you do? Make it up?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:47pm

      Minnaloushe
      How do you know your desire to be gay isn’t linked to toxoplasma? Maybe most religious people aren’t sick maybe you are.

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:41pm

    You don’t even need to bring religion into this. Homosexuals are off, their wires got crossed, they are sick in the head. Nature tells you that. Common sense tells you that. Only in our sick politically correct world could such a small band of misfits get so much power and influence. I get sick looking at what has happened to my country.

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  • capecodsully
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:36pm

    La Fave states “Her statements and actions related to gay rights are very hurtful”

    That’s it in a nutshell. If you think or believe something that is contrary to what another believes, and it hurts someone’s feelings, you are a bigot and intolerant. What a cry baby nation we have become. If I had a dime for every time someone told me I could not do something because I was a woman or I wasn’t good enough because I was a woman, I’d be freaking rich. Why on earth would you care what someone else thinks about you or your lifestyle. Why the need to make everyone accept you? Unless you know deep down, your not doing what is right.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:13pm

      “What a cry baby nation we have become.”

      Then stop crying about how you think everyone is a cry baby.

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    • toto
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:25pm

      Correct.

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    • capecodsully
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:30pm

      PUBLIUS – You libs are really going to have to do much better than this when you come on the Blaze. Don’t waste our time or space.

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  • smackdown33
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:15pm

    Homosexuality is a biological developmental aberration. Fact.
    It’s not a question of good v. bad. It’s not a religious argument. Fact is, the state has no more of an obligation to grant homosexuals a special status than it does any of the other numerous developmental sexual aberrations. For obvious biological reasons, the state does have an interest in the male-female relationship. And, this is the only relationship that the state has an obligation to protect and promote.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Well, given the high divorce rate and infidelity in our society, you should probably admit that heterosexual monogamous marriage is a violation of our natural biology.

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    • toto
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:44pm

      My feelings about homosexual couples and children is muddled. First of all, no one should question that the ideal for children is a mother and a father in a stable, loving relationship. It’s clearly evident that heterosexual couples in great numbers have failed miserably in carrying out that goal and have subjected their children to immense pain, poverty, and lack of stability. For that, they should be incredibly ashamed for having failed to keep their marriage vows, that are meant as a seal for the couple to bring children into a family. That said, a stable gay couple for adoptive children would be a godsend for the children that need them. What I wholly object to is the deliberate conception of children for the gay married couple market. This is such a selfish act. I believe the same is true for single women or men that are not gay. The children are precious and should brought into this world with the best possible chance for a happy childhood where the balance of the sexes is taught without effort. Becoming a successful adult depends on naturally learning how to be a boy or girl with both sexes in their natural roles.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:58pm

      PubliusPencilman

      I have seen gays argue from the standpoint of biology & evolution. They point out that animals with larger testes cheat more. They then point out that humans have large testes for their size when compared to other apes. Then they conclude quite happily that they are meant to be promiscuous.

      But since species evolve, it begs the question. Are we evolving to a more promiscuous species or less? Many gays would say that we are evolving to a more promiscuous species or are already there. They do not want to consider that we may be evolving to be less promiscuous & that may be good. Just one more example where gays only use science when it is convenient.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:17pm

      Walkabout,

      Your last comment left me convinced that you don’t really understand how evolution works.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:22pm

      PubliusPencilman

      & you do. Oh that is rich. More likely is that you have no comeback.

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  • R Smothers
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:09pm

    Bible believing Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin. I believe that too. However, I must remember that I also am a sinner, and often a slave to lust. God loves gays just like anyone else. I love my gay family, friends and neighbors like anyone else. But, I am offended when someone tells me that I can’t see homosexuality though the prism of sinfulness just because it is politically incorrect.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:25pm

      …A drunkard that justifies drinking
      …An addict that justifies drugs
      …A politician that justifies lying
      …A married person that justifies sleeping around

      These DO NOT make sense and neither does…

      …A Christian that justifies sin. No one who continues to sin will enter in…simple.

      Read Romans Chapter 6…
      6 knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
      7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
      8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
      9 knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
      10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
      11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
      13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
      14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
      15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
      16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye o

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    • R Smothers
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:31pm

      Bubba, I’m not at all justifying sin. However, I am well aware that I sin and attempt to give grace like my Father has given me. By the way, self-righteously quoting scripture will not bring many to the Lord. If you really want to help, love the sinner first, then work on the sin.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:33pm

      I’m a Christian too and hold similar beliefs.

      I finished a good book “10 Things Jesus Didn’t Say: and why we should stop believing them”
      One thing I was reminded of is that sin is sin (period). There is no great sin. There is no little sin. Sin doesn’t “rub off.” Gays are sinners. So am I.

      If you hate gays, because of their sin, how can you love yourself (also with sin) or others for that matter?

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:34pm

      Ahhhh, Smothers, you sound like a delightful person. I mean that in all sincerity.

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    • R Smothers
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:40pm

      Thanks, Vechorik. The problem with the mindset of Bubba is that it actually turns people from Christianity. There is not one sinner worse or better than me in the eyes of Jesus. Everyone should read John 8:7. (I’m quoting scripture now!)

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:41pm

      What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid

      I have done just what I like most about Glenn Beck, use their words, not mine.

      You argue with God, not me: 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:50pm

      @R Smothers
      @Vechorik

      You both seem to have the greasy grace that allows justification of sin. My declaring the word of God and not my opinion about the Word shows greater Love for your soul than both of you allow yourselves to understand. I am friend of God and an enemy to sin. As a friend of God, I do not find scripture as being too harsh or self-rightous when applied. Makes no sense, sounds like you want to win them to your all inclusive view of Salvation, and that ain’t gonna work on Judgement day.

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    • ROMANS 10-9
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:52pm

      The sin isn’t being gay,
      The real sin is in believing
      it isn’t a sin and trying to
      convince others that it
      is their right….. to sin.

      Imagine someone fighting for their sinfull right to steal your wallet.

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:06pm

      @ smothers

      Self righteously quoting scripture is profitable for the people of God.

      2 timothy 3:16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:06pm

      @BrotherSmothers

      You know not of what you speak. This verse is prior to Jesus’ sacrifice and demonstrates to ALL who have sinned that He came to be the door of Salvation for you and me, without respect of persons. Jesus loved us sinners so much that He died for us. Because of His sacrifice, you and I have equal access to Salvation. But equal access does not mean equal outcomes. It is not just what you believe…it is what you believe AND obey: (God’s words,not mine)

      Rom 3:20 – Rom 3:30

      20. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin. 21. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22. Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24. Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25. Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26. To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27. Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:12pm

      @smothers also read the woman at the well encounter Jesus had. was he being self rightous when he said to the samaritan woman.

      Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

      Anyways I see what you are trying to say about the self rightous part, the point being the words of scripture are best to use as opposed to attempting to water it down even the slightest, in the name of bringing people to the lord, for what would happen if at some point they discover any part of your testimony has been watered down? Truth in Love, scripture is indeed profitable to all who are of God.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:13pm

      @ Romans

      Your analogy is alarmingly similar to somone arguing that they have the right to legally stab someone in the head, suck their brains out and throw them away like yesterdays garbage.

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    • R Smothers
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:19pm

      But, Bubba, my friend, I‘m not sure why you think I’m justifying sin. I’m not. I fully believe that homosexuality is a sin. I also believe that the sins that you and I both commit are just as repugnant to the Lord. However, sinning is not the issue in my opinion. It is the lack of repentance that creates the divide between the human and God. I can’t stop sinning no matter what I do. (and neither can you). True repentance will help bridge that divide.

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    • R Smothers
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:23pm

      @ schmite

      I have no problem with scripture. It is the word of God. But it is the use of it that can be damaging. Turning someone away from the word of God because it was not tempered with love is a great tragedy. You remember the Pharasees were pretty good at dispensing scripture too.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:41pm

      @ Smothers

      I believe you if you proclaim that you cannot stop sinning. But to judge me would be wrong of you. Let me share with you, I once sinned and couldn’t help it, the adam nature that we are born with. I would repent often, but would slip back into sin. Seemed like a vicous circle. When you pray, pray to Jesus, he is our High Priest at the right hand of God. 1: You will receive forgiveness of sin (do not stop there) 2: Pray that Jesus accepts you as a living sacrifice – when He does, he will wash you spiritually with His Blood-the curse of sin will be broken (do not stop there) 3: Pray that you would receive the Comforter, The Gift, The Holy Ghost-Jesus will pray to His Father on your behalf and God will complete your salvation by the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. You will not want to sin, the Holy Ghost will remain in you, lead you and guide you. I will not qoute it, but you can read it for yourself. The book of Acts, and especially as it pertains to us gentiles read carefully Peter’s sermon to Cornelious. I am glad that we had this chance to talk. God’s promise is that His Grace shall appear to all people. He will not force salvation upon anyone, the door of our hearts must be opened from within and the spirit must be welcomed in, until the day he calls ALL of His family home to be together with Him. Blessings to you and I hope the eyes of your soul will be opened to a spiritual new birth and the newness of Life through Christ.

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  • Founding Father2
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:05pm

    DTOM,

    Here is an interesting question. Did Ron Paul stand up for Mitt Romney this weekend? Yes there is one insult but he was very soft on Romney when asked about him in an interview… is Ron Paul going soft??? ( http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/paul_defends_romney.html )

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Ron Paul doesn‘t bash candidates unless it’s about a Constitutional principle. He was complaining that America’s finances are a disaster and the debates have been about “who mows Romney’s gass”. Ron Paul doesn’t CARE about small, insignificant attacks like that.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:55pm

      ditto

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  • neocon1
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:04pm

    didnt barry get a BJ from larry?

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  • garyM
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:04pm

    momprayn…it’s impossible to explain Spiritual Godly things to lost sinners, only the saved sinners can understand the things of God!

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  • TxMadMac
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:56pm

    I’m nearly 70 and was molested at the age of 6 by a gay man. I still struggle with the memories and it took decades before I could trust a guy well enough to let him be my friend. When I was about 35 I finally realised that there wasn’t anything wrong with me but wrong was done to me ! The hardest part was forgiving. They have no idea what pain they cause just to seek their pleasure ! I pray for them but I know first hand and hate their sin ! The liberals really don‘t understand homosexuality in all it’s aspects.

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    • audiemurphy
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:07pm

      Why not just come out and say the truth …..
      Homosexuality is an abomination to God and I do not agree with the immoral acts of homosexualsfurther more sexual relations should only be engaged in by a man and woman who are legally and lawfully married. With the caveat that nevertheless consenting adults have the right to choose for themselves what they do in the privacy of their homes and we all hope that details of people’s personal intimate relations whatever they may be, be kept private and to themselves out of respect for the sacredness of the procreative power endowed to man.

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    • audiemurphy
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Why not just come out and say the truth …..
      Homosexuality is an abomination to God and I do not agree with the immoral acts of homosexualsfurther more sexual relations should only be engaged in by a man and woman who are legally and lawfully married. With the caveat that nevertheless consenting adults have the right to choose for themselves what they do in the privacy of their homes and we all hope that details of people’s personal intimate relations whatever they may be, be kept private and to themselves out of respect for the sacredness of the procreative power endowed to man.
      Never the less as POTUS I would not discriminate based on ones sexual preferences if they were the best man or woman for the job. I leave it for god to judge the sinner. My job as POTUS is to make decisions based on what will be best for the safety security, and prosperity of this great nation.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:18pm

      Was the man hetero,who molested children (boys & girls), or was he gay? You might not know, but I am asking if you know if he hung out at gay bars, etc? Gays will swear until the sun sets that they don’t have a higher rate of molestation than the general population.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:55pm

    Oh good grief. This gets so tiresome. If this issue could’ve been avoided, it should have. It’s a no-win the left will pound them with. This will never change — the gay rights people refuse and/or unable to grasp how Christians feel towards them. Many don’t want to understand and want to keep feeling they are victims & therefore justifies their complaints and activism which makes them feel somewhat better & irrationally think this will make people accept them as normal.
    Think Christians are indeed at fault many times too and do not handle this the way God wants them to which has been very harmful. But then there are many who DO treat them well. I also think there‘s a big misunderstanding about this and the Bachmann’s are an example re the “cure”.
    “For there are eunuchs who were BORN thus from their mother’s womb..”(eunuchs =no sex drive; impotent due to defects/abnormalities) Matthew 19:12 I disagree with most who say they are not born that way. Maybe not all – don’t know. It’s complex. But my theory is it’s a “generational curse” through the family line and they are born with this defect. We ALL have some kind of defects/sins. The reason Christians oppose this view is they think that makes it “ok”. No – that doesn’t make it excusable – it just means that person (like us ALL) need to go to God to get help; make the choice of not engaging . Just having those abnormal preferences is not the sin – only the act/lust -like heteros..

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:37pm

      There are many gay Christians. I can understand that, as I am a sinner and I’m a Christian as well.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:04pm

      @Vechorik

      You violate one of the most basic laws of logic:

      Law of Non-Contradiction: Something cannot be itself and not itself at the same time, in the same way, and in the same sense.

      Example:
      A sinner is not a Christian, but a sinner can become a Christian.
      A gay person that sins is a sinner. A sinner is not a Christian. But a sinner can become a Christian.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:18pm

      Biscuit Feed Bubba
      You overlook the weakness in your own logic. You can be a Christian without being a fundamentalist. Therefore, you can be a Christian without believing that gays are all sinners. Anyone who tries to follow the teachings of Jesus and accepts his divinity is a kind of Christian. However, that doesn’t mean that you have to accept every word of every line of the entire Bible as the word of God. You can be a Christian and believe that all of that stupid anti-gay garbage is just a bunch of crap made up by some dirtbag liar who was only claiming to speak for God.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:24am

      @Hemp

      To be a Christian, is to be Christ-like. You cannot take the Word and pick it like a piece of chicken, eating only the parts you want to or that satisfies you, the Word of God is complete. God is not asking you to make a deal, His Word is telling you what the deal is, Like it or Leave it, that would be your choice as a free moral agent. Sorry that you cannot accept the simplicity of God’s absolute plan.

      As far as your fundamentalist comment, I guess you can call yourself anything you want, it doesn’t affect my soul. God knows the very intention of your heart, so it is really Him that you need to convince.

      Also, I guess I could live in a house without a foundation, that way no matter how the wind blew, my house would shift with it, or if the soil was sandy, my house could shift back and forth; however, i am not sure if my walls would be square or if my roof could withstand the movement. Oh well, I guess people much smarter than me can see past the fundamentals of architecture and design a glass house built on no foundations for fairies to abode. Ya, maybe that would be really cool and all my friends would like that.

      Hemp, from one radical to another, please mature, then respond back later for the truth.

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    • Biscuit Feed Bubba
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:37am

      @ Hemp

      Your house is built on shifting sand, not the foundation. God is not asking us to make a deal with Him, He, through His Word is sharing with us what the deal is. Whether you accept it or reject it is entirely up to you, you are not forced into service by God.

      To be a Christian is to be Christ-like. Gay people are just sinners, just like drunkards, liars, addicts, fornicators, adulterers, and such like. If that does not fit your agenda, you must change. Your feable attempt to change God’s word will never work. You can pick a piece of chicken for the parts you like, but picking what works for you from the Holy Bible will never do.

      God Bless you and i will pray that you will find the foundation (fundamentals) of God’s word, and from this foundation, build your spiritual house, it will be your final dwelling, build it well.

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  • britlynz
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:52pm

    Bachmann’s campaign during this primary season has been marked by a refreshing level of candor. However, her continued insistence to walk on land mines demonstrates a disqualifying level of naivete… at least for this election.

    As unfortunate as it is, a successful presidential candidate these days MUST be able to articulate a position in a manner that not only shows strength and conviction, but anticipates and shields against the inevitable darts coming in his/her direction.

    Michelle just ain’t there yet.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Thank You! Well said!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:42pm

      “As unfortunate as it is, a successful presidential candidate these days MUST be able to articulate a position in a manner that not only shows strength and conviction, but anticipates and shields against the inevitable darts coming in his/her direction.”

      Very well said.

      I wonder why consultants can’t coach or some candidates learn this on their own.

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  • steveh931
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:50pm

    When will the career politicians realize that the people were meant to decide what is best for this nation by their elected representatives from their districts. A President is not a king and is not allowed by the U.S. Constitution to force their beliefs upon the people. It does not matter, what any Presidential Candidate thinks about homosexuality, this needs to be addressed by the people of the states. A vote needs to take place in both house’s of Congress, with two-thirds approval in either direction and passed down to the states for Amending the Constitution, with a three-fourths of the states approving the Amendment.

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  • Founding Father2
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Oh there is a bias, against her competitors. She attacked Herman Cain against his comments on abortion and being pro-choice. Then Karl Rove spoke on the same issue and analyzed that the comment would be a problem for him ( http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/rove_cain_trouble.html ) And Cain attacked Rove for trying to destroy him. Yet no mention of Bachmann… why???

    Interesting…

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Like who cares!!?? Arguing Bachmann, Perry, Romney, Santorum, Newt or Herman is ridiculous. They are all an illusion of choice and will not solve anything. None of them want to end the fed and a private, central, bank printing “money” is the number one problem. It is as unconstitutional as the patriot act they all support. Stop borrowing money from China at interest to GIVE to other countries. Stop printing promissory notes and calling it “money”. It is not money, it is literally debt.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Because people listen to Rove and Bachmann is a joke not worth responding to.

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  • gramma b
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:35pm

    It’s sad when the most socially conservative candidate in the race is afraid to say that, while she feels sympathy for those suffering from same-sex attractions, she views homosexual behavior as deviant and immoral. Sexual attraction and sexual intercourse have an obvious biological purpose. The urge to imitate intercourse with a person lacking the proper genitalia is an obvious dysfunction, no matter what you think about the moral issues.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:48pm

      “The urge to imitate intercourse with a person lacking the proper genitalia is an obvious dysfunction, no matter what you think about the moral issues.”

      So any sexual activity outside procreative intercourse is dysfunctional? I suppose you’ll need to denounce the masturbators as well!

      And do you suppose in a free country the government is empowered to tell you how two consenting adults are allowed to be be stimulated sexually?

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    • Obama Snake Oil Co
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:49pm

      Even if you are honest about it being an abomination or sin, you are still cast as Homophobe. I just cannot wait till beastiality rights groups step up to the plate, and what about the child mostesters….where are their rights? Geez…

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    • STS2_SS_Iver
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Call it like it is. Sin is sin. Only one of us was ever born without it.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:00pm

      Obama Snake Oil,

      If you can’t understand the concept of “two consenting adults,” and how that is different from an adult and a child or an adult and an animal, then there is no reason to think you understand marriage at all!

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:36pm

      STS2_SS_Iver
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:56pm
      Call it like it is. Sin is sin. Only one of us was ever born without it.
      ________________________________
      Well two, Mary and Christ.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:54pm

      apparently you’ve never read the bible…mary was just a woman…a very blessed woman…but as a woman she had sin.

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:17pm

      @publious

      Yep, i would have to say masturbation is most definately a sin. Sin of pleasure. Repent!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:23pm

      PubliusPencilman

      Pretty despicable actually. To say on one had that what two consenting people do in their own domicile on one hand saying it doesn’t affect you & then on the other have gay appreciation day at public schools & want health care spending for HIV out of proportion to the number of sick people.

      It is is two faced really.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:28pm

      godlovinmom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:54pm
      apparently you’ve never read the bible…mary was just a woman…a very blessed woman…but as a woman she had sin.
      _________________________
      I guess you think the immaculate conception is a football play?

      Oh, wait, this is the Blaze were the catholics along with mormons are not considered Christians.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:01pm

      encimon

      I consider Catholics to be Christians. It is funny you know how ministers of different denominations can get together & discuss what set of beliefs you need to be considered Christian. When I heard a minister talk about that, it was his opinion as a Protestant that Catholics were Christians. By the definitions that he & several other ministers discussed, Catholics were considered Christians by many Protestant denominations. Of course there are doctrinal differences. But don’t let that fool you. I have seen many different people of different denominations get along quite well. Heck in my own extended family we have at least 5 denominations including Catholic. You really should get out more & learn about Christianity among other things.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:21pm

      Walkabout,

      The reason they have those “gay appreciation days” is so young gay men and women don’t kill themselves after getting bullied by narrow-minded bigots such as many of your compatriots here.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:22pm

      @Walkabout
      I have no doubt that other Protestant groups consider catholics christians, my point is the fringe evangelical strain that runs through the Blaze doesn’t. Okie, Ranger Dan and other preach the ago old lessons of bigotry.

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  • Dustyluv
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:27pm

    I have a gay brother. I hate the sin but love him. How is that so hard for the media to undertand? I think he wil continue to have a crappy life because he follows the road of homosexuality. You think there aren’t any consequences for sin? There is…always. And homosexuality is a sin. Too bad people cant get that in their pea brain.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 25, 2011 at 10:44am

      No, the nation has moved on and left in its wake the old book of myths and fables, that a few small minded bigots, like yourself hold on to defend your bigotry. Its easy to point to a book to blame that as the source of your hate.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:23pm

    while her husband has purportedly compared gays and lesbians to ”barbarians.” That is the perfect way to describe them, every society that has embraced them and pretended they were normal has been utterly destroyed with in a very short period of time, it’s one of those final spasms before collapse.

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  • teapartyconservatism
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:17pm

    Oh poor poor Michelle, don’t you just hate it when your personal heart felt religious convictions conflict with political expediencies?

    Since you want be the next President, why not change the subject to supporting the Constitution and obeying your sworn oath of office by removing the illegal one we have now? http://www.ObamaNotEligible.com

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    • bikerr
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:41pm

      @teapartyconservatism-She tries at every turn but the lame stream media keeps focus on hot button topics. I’m sure you were being sarcastic in posting?. She is the most Loving conservative of all the Republican candidates, anyone of which could lead this country.
      far better than what we have now.

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  • LiberalMarine
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:14pm

    Yes, she was taken out of context.

    By releasing her exact words verbatim and without needing commentary.

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    • bikerr
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:54pm

      @LiberalMarine—-I will now use the same trick other’s use…..You just posted” Yes, she was taken out of context.:……………Now I’m glad you agree. See How easy it is?. cheeez get a clue.
      1. Go to her website
      2.call her campaign office,
      3. talk to some of her supporters
      Just a small list of how to get a clue.

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    • randy
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:12pm

      Hey, The fake marine shows up again.

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:20pm

      @Randy
      I think it’s funny that you think in order to be a Marine one would have to buy in to conservative ideology.

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    • Californiasodbuster
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:11pm

      I think it’s funny why a liberal would join a conservative branch of our armed forces, as all of them are.
      What gives?

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    • bikerr
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:44pm

      @ LiberalMarine—–Repeat steps 1-3 above. until satisfied.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:14pm

    I “tolerate” gays… but I have a bias that defines them as abnormal and weird… as they cannot bond with the opposite sex… and fail to comprehend the purpose of sexual components!

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:18pm

      I tolerate you, but I don’t trust you, because anyone who writes “fail to comprehend the purpose of sexual components” is automatically under suspicion of being a robot.

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  • JRook
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:13pm

    This is what politics does to individuals in today’s world. They start out by taking ignorant positions on many issues, making outrageous statements to get attention and then lying when confronted with them later on. So having long since proved she is stupid, Bachmann now makes the case she is a liar also. She needs to gracefully withdrawn and save whatever face she has left. Still amazed that there is a district in the US that would elect her to Congress.

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  • Biscuit Feed Bubba
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:07pm

    All sin will be judge. He who sins is of the devil… Read Romans 6th Chapter.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:19pm

      Ah, so we are a theocracy now? Good to know. Let me guess, you’re going to post later about the horrors of Sharia Law too right?

      “If it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg what matter is it of mine?” Jefferson

      That the federal government and the POTUS should have any bearing on this matter is simply ridiculous. That people want to make it that way is worse. If so, at least be consistent. You need to find the fornicators, adulterers, liars, gossipers, those who are consumed with sloth, gluttony, etc. While you‘re at it you need to go full Charlamagne and round up those who don’t believe you Christ. I mean if they aren‘t Christian then it isn’t a sin in their minds.

      Good grief.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:19pm

      All are sinners…

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:25pm

      The topic isn‘t government’s role with regard to faith, so your question/statement/potshot is out of line, “Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve”

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    • bikerr
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:47pm

      @Biscuit Feed Bubba-Right on!,Right on!,Right on!.

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  • bullcrapbuster
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:44pm

    The fence make perfect sense.

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:08pm

    Herman Cain‘s position on abortion is that he’s against it. He says if the family wants to do it, they can go ahead but the government won’t be paying for it. Somebody would have to be pretty simple minded to find that confusing.

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