These Are the Cars & Trucks Americans Are Buying the Least
- Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:30am by
Becket Adams
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The number of cars and light trucks sold in the U.S. fell 25 percent over the past five years, from over 16.4 million for the model year beginning September 2005 to 12.4 million in the last complete model year.
The sales of some models have fallen much more than that during the same period. To see why sales of some vehicles dropped so much, the writers at 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the sales of cars and trucks, provided by car industry research firm Edmunds.com, that have lost the most in unit sales between the two periods.
The auto industry has suffered greatly during the latter half of the recent decade. To ensure that the vehicles on the list did not simply suffer from just the economic downturn, those that lost the most in total unit sales, and those that have had sales drop of more than 50 percent–double the industry trend—were the ones that were most closely investigated.
24/7 Wall St. also added base vehicle prices provided by the manufacturers, EPA data on gas mileage, and quality and reliability ratings from JD Powers.
Model age, direct competition, manufacturer quality perceptions, car company balance sheets and gas prices can all contribute to the collapse of a model’s sales.
10. Buick Lucerne
Decrease in units sold: 62,266
Pct drop: 71.5 percent
Base car price: $29,730
Fuel efficiency: 17 city, 27 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 4/5
JD Powers reliability score: 4.5/5
The Lucerne was introduced in 2005. Sales have dropped so much that the car was discontinued this year and production stopped in the early summer. Buick may have positioned the car badly. It has been marketed as a full-sized sedan to compete with mid-priced luxury vehicles made by Lexus, Acura, Lincoln and Mercedes. The Lucerne may be less expensive than those models, but buyers do not consider it in the luxury vehicle class.
9. Chevy Colorado
Decrease in units sold: 62,977
Pct drop: 67.2 percent
Base car price: $17,395
Fuel efficiency: 18 city, 25 hwy (for 4-cylinder)
JD Powers quality score: 3.5/5
JD Powers reliability score: 3/5
The Colorado is Chevy’s mid-sized pickup, and within the GM family, it competes directly with the GMC Canyon. Both were introduced in 2004. The truck may have too much competition to lift current sales by any significant level. It sits in a segment of the SUV market that includes the Ford Ranger, the Toyota Tacoma, and the Nissan Frontier.
8. Toyota Avalon
Decrease in units sold: 64,325
Pct drop: 69.6 percent
Base car price: $33,195
Fuel efficiency: 20 city, 29 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 3/5
JD Powers reliability score: 4/5
The Avalon is Toyota’s mid-priced, large-sized sedan. Overall, Toyota sales suffered this year after much of the company’s Japan production was shuttered because of the March earthquake. It is only now resuming in full. The Avalon is in a highly competitive portion of the market. Every major car company has a vehicle with similar characteristics and comparable price levels. Hyundai’s success in this part of the market has been remarkable over the past three years. The Avalon was first introduced in 1994 and is on its third generation.
7. Dodge Dakota
Decrease in units sold: 70,039
Pct drop: 83.8 percent
Base car price: $23,210
Fuel efficiency: 15 city, 20 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 3.5/5
JD Powers reliability score: n/a
The Dakota, marketed under the Ram brand, is a mid-sized pickup. It was introduced in 1986. The current, third generation of the truck was launched in 2005. The version was offered with only a club cab with two rows of seats. The Dakota was discontinued this year, with the last one being produced in August.
6. Chevy Tahoe
Decrease in units sold: 75,814
Pct drop: 50.9 percent
Base car price: $37,980
Fuel efficiency: 15 city, 21 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 4/5
JD Powers reliability score: 3.5/5
The Tahoe is Chevy’s full-sized SUV. Fully loaded with factory-installed features, the Tahoe can retail for as much as $55,000. The Tahoe also has direct competition within the GM family — the GMC Yukon. In addition, virtually every other U.S. and foreign car company has a vehicle in the same market segment. The truck was first sold in 1995. The current generation of the Tahoe, and the Yukon, were both introduced in 2007.
5. Jeep Liberty
Decrease in units sold: 77,650
Pct drop: 55.9 percent
Base car price: $23,250
Fuel efficiency: 16 city, 22 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 2/5
JD Powers reliability score: 2.5/5
The Liberty is the mid-priced model among the six that Jeep offers. The company currently offers more than one incentive to draw buyers — usually a sign that demand is low. Among these offers are zero percent financing for up to 60 months, and a $3,000 cash allowance. The Liberty was first introduced nine years ago. A new generation of the SUV was launched in 2008. Sales have declined since their peak in 2004.
4. Silverado 2500HD
Decrease in units sold: 77,741
Pct drop: 53.1 percent
Base car price: $28,415
Fuel efficiency: 12 city, 15 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 3/5
JD Powers reliability score: 3.5/5
The Silverado is Chevy’s flagship pickup. It competes with the industry leading Ford F-series and the Dodge Ram, along with several other pickups made by foreign manufacturers. The Silverado HD is the heavy duty version of the truck. It can pull a load of up to 17,800 pounds. The first HD models were introduced in 2001. Sales of the less-expensive Silverado 1500 have fallen by 21 percent over the past five years.
Update: Be sure to click on the above link to see which cars are in the top 3. You may be disappointed to find out that even Ford has not been unaffected by the recent downturn in car sales.
(Douglas A. McIntyre/Becket Adams –27/7 Wall St./The Blaze)
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Comments (166)
Mr.ManZ
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:33amIf it has a big labor union sticker anywhere on it, I want no part of it what-so-ever, same goes for china. GM (Government Motors) made crap is just that, “CRAP”. ……………..FORD is the name I trust and the vehicle I proudly drive.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:30amguess we are in 100% AMERICA Ford Country, because it is rare to see any Govt Motors vehicles out our way at all. can’t even remember when any of our neighbors had anything but Fords, either.
Report Post »we did see a big red Tundra the other day, but it was in a zillion shattered plastic pieces from a roll-over and had a license plate from democrat CO.
JLGunner
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:08pmFord is the only car/truck I’ll buy. Although they did send some manufacuring to mexico and canada, the didn’t take any bailout money.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:42pmford is the only AMERICAN vehicle I will buy, but if they can’t get rid of the UAW, I will buy Toyotas and Hondas made in the USA. They are still non-union at this point.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:36pmwill NEVER own another FORD.. I know why they say F.ound o N R oad D ead..I was s CHEVY girl but in 2006 bought a TOYOTA.. small just for skirting around.. GREAT gas millage 34-39 mpg.. Great little car.. Husband just bought a NEW Toyota.. loves it..great gas millage.. runs great.. everything we need for transportation.. IF we had to do a lot of heavy hauling we would go back to the NISSIAN truck..
Report Post »Callmekozmo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:43pmFirst On Race Day baby.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:28pmFix Or Repair Daily. Used to be, but they are really good cars and my 86GT Mustang was proof. I have only bought Hondas and Acuras since bought recently bought another Ford in a 2011 Escape. Ford does make them tough.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:47pmI would only buy Ford because it’s not Government Motors. My dad always had Ford Trucks, until he bought a Toyota truck……I can’t even remember how old it is, but it’s old, runs great. I had a Ford Taurus that I bought used, and it always had some strange noise in the rear end and some computer thing kept going out that would make it race when in park. I do have a 2007 Chrysler, but that was before the bailout.
Report Post »bleuze
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:55amI will never buy a GM or Chrysler car again. As far as I’m concerned, let the government or UAW buy them. Hell, they wanted to screw the American people! My last car purchase was a Camry. We always purchased a car from the big 3, but no longer.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:19pmBought a new black and tan full sized Bronco, Eddie Bauer edition every three years, for nine years.
Report Post »Turned the 85’ 351 Windsor into a faux Cleveland with dual Holley double pumpers, ****** headers, laser distributor, 1.5 over street cam, etc, etc.
(Yeah I know, it was illegal to take all the pollution crap off … so KMA)
With nearly 400 BHP under the hood, a 4” body lift, and MT 44’s it was a squirrelly but fun driving FORD!
Cat
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:20pmThat would be H-O-O-K-E-R headers
Report Post »Gezzz…
DaytonConserve
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:48pmGM and the UAW shafted Dayton when they conspired to close the Moraine plant because it was IUE. Never trust the UAW.
Report Post »joongoon
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 9:18pmi am all for ford trucks but i recently got rid of a piece of crap car they sold me, every 4 months it had a new problem with, it never let up, at one point the transmission was jacked up, i sold that rolling turd and went with Nissan, 4 years and i have NEVER had to take it into a shop for stupid crap like that, just the oil change and new tires, wait i had to get new windshield because a damn bird flew right into my windshield haha.
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:28amI like driving a 2007 Star Stratoliner. Best money I have spent in a long time. It will suck when it starts snowing here in West NY. Cold weather be darned. I’ll still ride if the streets are dry. All 4 wheel vehicles suck. One just can’t work on the things anymore. Damned Bunny Huggers.
Report Post »BB671
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:21amI am a die hard GM man..Always have been and always will be… I will never buy a new GM product like I did in 2007! I will opt for classic cars and only buy the models built before the bail out. I will however buy a new Ford the next time around. Their decision to tough it out and not get mixed up with the commies must be rewarded. GM’s decision will be the end of them for sure, I just hope that those responsible get punished for destroying an American Icon… Dont blame the American People!!!
Report Post »chevy65
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:35pmyup, me too.
Report Post »UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:57pmWell said. I’m similarly a GM fan through and though, but when it came time for a new vehicle I opted for a Ford.
GM even makes it a bad idea to buy their older cars, unless you’re getting one that has all aftermarket parts available. They immediately stopped supporting their own vehicles when mother government took them over and gave them to the unions.
Report Post »Liberals are Zombies
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:52pmI too was a chevy man. I will never buy a new .gov motor.
Report Post »zman61
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:17pmsame here. have always owned GM vehicles but today I would not P*ss on one that was built after the bailout. If I had to buy a new one it would be a Ford as hard as it is for me to say that. I have to give it to them they stood on their own while GM folded and took the Commie b^st^rds bailout money.
Report Post »NYHuguenot
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:34pmI have owned 31 GM products in my personal life and for my business. I’ve owned 11 Astros and have replaced more door handles than I can remember. Cheap cast aluminum. But I said three years ago I would never buy a GM ever since the illegal baaiout and the screwing of the bond and stockholders. Plus I detest this administrations partisan union stance and and it’s putting the UAW on the board. I retired a couple of years ago and I am driving the last Astro. I promised myself a pickup and I like the F-150. My father liked Fords so I guess I’ll find out what he liked about them.
Report Post »inthebeginningGod
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:28amThis is a general reply to the article, not to BB671. (Blaze, I wish you‘d make it easier to reply to articles rather than other people’s remarks!):
Report Post »I’m a big The Blaze fan and GM fan, but this story is full of inaccuracies. The Lucerne came out in 2005 (7 model years ago!) and was overdue for replacement. Most cars are replaced after 4-5 years. It also came out at a time when Buick, and really all of GM had too many similar cars competing against each other (ie: Buicks vs. Pontiacs vs. Chevy vs. Saturns. The Lucerne was a nice car that really never had a chance. The Colorado? It never did well because GM was trying to reinvent an old market that was no longer popular. It, and the Canyon, competed with other trucks that have also gone away: the Ranger (in production in last form since 1993, dead for a few years now) and the Dakota. The Avalon? Not a midpriced sedan as the article reads. A top of the line sedan for Toyota. One level below a Lexus. It has never sold well because you could have a Lexus (and the name) for almost the same price. The Liberty? More of a niche vehicle that never really lived up to the original Cherokee it replaced. The Yukon? Another example of GM trying to go too upmarket and losing it’s focus in the process. Too many fancy versions like Denali’s and Escalades and hybrid models. Make ‘em more affordable (do away the unions) and they would sell much better.
Wolfpack Conservative
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:18amWhat do they all have in common?…They’re union-made!
Won’t see a Nissan on that list!
Report Post »AZ_Dennis
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:26amDidn´t see a Ford on the list.
Report Post »AlmostaCowboy
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:38amThe Avalon is made in KY by non-union workers.
Report Post »Hammerdown
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:15pmTwo of the top three are Fords, Mustang and Taurus. You have to go to the next page to see them.
Report Post »Quasimofo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:17amPssssst… Read the rest of the article. #3 is the Mustang and #2 is the Taurus.
http://247wallst.com/2011/09/29/cars-americans-no-longer-drive/3/
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:39amThe Mustang is more of a “want car”, not a “need”, The Tarus dropped because they came out with the cars to replace it like the Fusion. The Fusion is an Awesome car. I still have my 98 Tarus wagon, but on vacation I rented a Fusion, Wow, what a nice car. Once you drop the model, people go to other things.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:46amThose two maintain decent JDP scores on quality and reliability, though, unlike a lot of the others. I think with the Taurus, it’s more a case of burnout — what the hell is a Taurus? A bland, vanilla blob of a car that even looks old now. It was cut once before. Mustang is harder to explain — unless it‘s just that younger buyers don’t have the deep visceral connection to the model that some of us older folk do. It’s like it has become just another street/sport car in a segment that is increasingly crowded and just doesn’t command the attention and respect that newer and more exciting vehicles (and yes, probably more reliable too) do.
Report Post »Champ
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:48amMustang is on the list because GM & Dodge suddenly put out cars that are good competition to the Mustang. For a few years there, there was no Camaro, and no Charger. Ford had no competition, now it does, and the sales are falling. Ford also keeps raising the price. In 1999 I was able to get a NEW mustang GT for about $24000. Now, that’s about the price of a base car, and the GT is priced too high for me to consider a new one now.
Taurus is there because Ford seriously dropped the ball on the Taurus. When they were planning on phasing out the Taurus, they put out a really cool concept car called a Ford 500. Then, when they went to release the procuction car, it looked nothing like the concept, and was very bland. Then Ford incorrectly thought that the problem was the NAME of the car, and changed the name of the 500 to the Taurus (which was then out of production). That was a HUGE screw up for them, and the’ve been paying for it ever since.
#1 is the Chrysler 300. It was cool when it came out, and sold well. Now, there are lots of other cool full-size sedans out there to compete with, and it lost its new-ness. People are angry at Chrysler for taking a bail-out, and are buying smaller, more effeicent cars on top of that. No surprise that they aren’t selling.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:22pmThat’s because Mustangs are gas hoggin eye sores.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:58pmI tell you that if Ford built the classic 1965 Mustang I would buy it & I bet a bunch of other middle-aged men would.
Report Post »Doug in Seattle
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:14amMy Frontier is a wonderful truck. I feel absolutely no guilt in not buying a Union Made Big Three American truck. The hard working Tennesseans who built my truck did a fine job.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »My Toyota 4Runner has 309,215 miles on it and is still going strong.
My Honda Accord has 286,478 miles on it and it too is still going strong.
Both were built in the USA by NON-union Americans.
Let’s see your Frontier last that long. I very much doubt it will.
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Blaine45ACP
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:12amI”m a Ford and Rice Burner kind of person….
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:24amSo, you drive a Mazda, then? Ford owns a large chunk of Mazda. Why do you think the Escort went magicly from a square-headlight American compact to an even smaller rounded-headllght subcompact in a single model year? The American made version went bye-bye and the new Escort was entirely a rebadged Mazda product.
Report Post »drybackinpi
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:29amI like that lesbian :)
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:35amToyota for the city, Ford truck for everything else.
Report Post »RejectFalseIcons
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:39pmI drive a 2008 Mazda 6. I traded in my 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP the day they announced the bailout, and I will never go back to GM – all of my previous cars were GM, too. I also have a fair amount of influence at work, and recently successfully lobbied our logistics motor pool (150 vehicles) from Pontiac Vibe models to those little ford delivery trucks (Express?). The only way to beat the looters is to starve them.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »Since union-made garbage and Chinese-made garbage are of the same low quality, why pay more for union-made?
Buy NON-union !!!
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Hopefull_2012
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:22amAmen!
Report Post »poster
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:09amI’ve owned 2 cars in the last 22 years — 1990 Honda Accord and a 2000 Honda Civic. Still driving the Civic. Chevy? Chrysler? I don’t think so.
Report Post »Champ
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:54amI have a very reliable 1988 Ford Ranger 4×4 right now. Still on the road. Starts and runs any time I need it.
For full disclosure, my daily driver is a 2003 Civic Hybrid with 150k miles that gets about 42mpg on average (for the milage, not because I’m a greenie – i’m not). My wife drives a 2007 Chevy Uplander (bought it before the bail-out)
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:07amNever will I buy a GM!!!!!!!
Report Post »Wringeaux
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:12amI won’t even buy a used GM.
Report Post »just happy
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:02amis it just me or are NONE of these from FORD? maybe REGULAR (real) Americans HATE THE BAILOUTS!!!!
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:08amMmmmmmm, Yup!
Report Post »Snoopygirl62
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:26amActually, if you read the entire article, the Ford Mustand and Taurus are in the top 3. I actually like Ford and would buy them before GM or a chevy.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:02amWhere’s the VOLT?
Report Post »mbriz
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:06amPeople are buying them. Some folks believe in science.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:07amIs it true that when Gov’t Motors has China make these turkeys that they are going to call it the “Revolt”? The Edsel better move over…
Report Post »IvanK
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:15amYeah, all 30 of them…
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:23amOthers just believe in wasting their money. The top purchaser of the Volt is the U.S. Government, need I say more.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:42am@MBRIZ… some people believe in science? So does that mean if you DONT buy a volt you dont believe in science??
How about the science of the “carbon footprint” of those big batteries that are full of TOXIC chemicals in the Volt and all hybrids? How about the science that proves you can reduce the “carbon footprint” of your vehicle by buying a similar size NORMAL car and buying carbon offsets? The math shows that to “make up” the difference for milage between a Honda Civic and Civic Hybrid you would only need to buy about $100 worth of offsets vs. $5000 difference in price?
And, of course, everyone knows it was warmer during the Mideval Warming period, before Man polluted the environment with all these greenhouse gases… how does that work??
Unfortunately, politics now trumps science.. and you have been duped.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »Most of them are Gov. Motors and the vast majority of them are over-priced, union made cr@p.
Buy NON-union !!!
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Computernerd
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:50amWe own a 2007 Buick Lucerne and love it. It is a great car and we have not had anything major go wrong with it. With that in mind, when we do go to replace it, we will look at either the Buick Regal or Buick LaCrosse.
Report Post »paulnashtn
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:23amYou bought it b4 the government took over GM — careful on what you buy next
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:47amI think they are selling least, because since we will all soon be living in our vehicles, people have chosen to buy vans…so they have a little more room.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:53amTo save you time, here are the other three:
3. Mustang
> Decrease in units sold: 93,829
> Pct drop: 58.2%
> Base car price: $22,310
> fuel efficiency: 19 city, 31 hwy
> JD Powers quality score: 3/5
> JD Powers reliability score: 4/5
The high point of auto legend Lee Iaccoca’s career was not his revival of Chrysler but the launch of the Mustang in 1964. Many car industry historians say it was Ford’s fastest selling car since the Model A. Over 400,000 Mustangs were sold in the car’s first model year. The current version of the Mustang is the fifth generation of the automobile. Ford upgraded the Mustang engines this year, but that has not helped revive sales. The Mustang is in a highly competitive part of the market, which includes the Chevy Camaro.
2. Ford Taurus
> Decrease in units sold: 108,777
> Pct drop: 62.4%
> Base car price: $25,555
> Fuel efficiency: 18 city, 28 hwy
> JD Powers quality score: 4.5/5
> JD Powers reliability score: 3.5/5
The Taurus is one of the most successful Ford vehicles of all time. Its first model year was 1986, and Ford had sold one million units of the vehicle by 1989. The fourth generation of the Taurus was launched in 2000 and was discontinued in 2006 due to slow sales. Ford revived the Taurus in 2007, and upgraded it again last year.
1. Chrysler 300
Report Post »> Decrease in units sold: 111,596
> Pct drop: 78.9%
> Base car price: $27,170
> fuel efficiency: 18 city, 27 hwy
> JD Powers quality score: 3/5
> JD Powers
BurntHills
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:34amwe really liked the look of Taurus cars (Ford) but they were sure made with lil bitty short people in mind. No leg room in them at all.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:52amI like my ford ranger and my wife likes her ford fusion.Last ranger i had ran it and beat it for 12 years only tore the cluch out once.When we tore down our old house I used it to help rip it down stood up to the punishment just fine.Tore the cluch out doing fish hooks.Let my inner kid loose.
Report Post »PApeacemaker
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:47amFord is the last ray of hope for American auto maker. GM & MOPAR are good as gone who would have thought in the 1970′s when they all made beautiful muscle cars this day would come? The eco-fascist’s killed the American auto maker plain & simple no body built a better car then the Americans for decades & they destroyed it all in the matter of a decade. I highly doubt American auto makers will ever recover from this. Lets just hope Ford can push on & be the last of the giants to stand on there own two feet. As for GM & MOPAR they will die out in the next decade mainly because the greedy communist unions will bleed them dry. The only hope for them is to go to non union states & tell the eco-fascist’s to suck it with the mpg standards horse crap.
Report Post »SIGNOFTHETIMES
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:05amI agree, but the commie eco statest running our formerly free govt will not let that happen. We the people will be told what to buy, of course, for our own good.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:05amIf Ralph Nader hadn’t sued the pants off of GM for trying to make a small car, we‘d all have smaller more fuel efficient cars and we would’ve had them 3 decades ago. This would have meant that we‘d have less use for outside oil over those 30 years and we would’ve had a more competitive market of cars to offer to overseas buyers. Ralph Nader campaigns as a liberal environmentalist who wants to keep people safe, but in reality he is a threat to the safety and profitability of this nation.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:35am@STB – You are obviously too young to have driven a Corvair. Not a Nader fan, but his book about it “Unsafe at Any Speed” was unfortunately. It was most dangerous in the Spyder version with the turbocharger that gave an unbelievable torque reaction besides the steering issues. VERY fast car for those brave enough to drive one. As far as the drop in sales that most of the auto manfacturers have suffered, one might also look at the near 20% real unemployment rate.
Report Post »chevy65
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:44pmUmmm , try going back to the 50‘s and 60’s . By the time they got to the 70′s they started doing the pollution crap, and it’s never been the same.
Report Post »meddawg2003
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:46amGovt. Motors gonna need another bailout.
Report Post »pbrenda51
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:04amI will NOT buy GM, Jeep or anything the government owns…..and remember the union guys out smoking pot and drinking during a break at Jeep? then they go in and work on cars….I don’t think so…….we only have honda and toyota since 1982, however, when looking for a new car next year, I will strongly consider a Ford also
Report Post »mbriz
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:14amThey don’t own it. Please get your info from someone besides becky. The bailout saved my job along with 100 of thousands down the automotive food chain, people that aren’t collecting unemployment, and are paying taxes, and GM has paid back a huge chunk of the money. But don’t let facts get in the way of your hate filled ramblings.
Report Post »Phantom II
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:01pm@ MBRIZ. It was a totally illegal bail out and everybody involved, including Bob Lutz, should be prosecuted. Listen to his interview with Larry Kudlow. Shocking. He is completely in the tank for your commie hero, Obama. If they had followed proper bankruptcy procedures, GM and all the suppliers would have survived albeit in a leaner form. Union commies like you would be out of a job and the rightful bondholders would have have gained in the long term. Capital formation in this manor is the essence of our wonderful free market system and must not be interfered with by the likes of your ilk, lest we end up like eastern Europe after the war. My family and friends immediately sold our GM cars including my beloved Corvettes after the cue. I kept my 63 split window though. Until there is a trial and GM returned to it’s rightful owners, I will buy Fords. No tea Party member should own GM and Chrysler products. Support capitalism and buy a Ford.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:17pm@mbriz GM didn‘t use any of it’s own earnings to pay it off, they used TARP money. Just a fact.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:26pm@MBRIZ———What GM has done is use the TARP money that was placed in escrow by the Treasury Department to repay the remaining interest bearing debt of $6.7 billion. Given that this money was not paid for with profits earned by the company it is effectively a debt-for-equity swap not a loan repayment. In other words, the Treasury approved the repayment of the loan with the escrow funds and the government therefore hopes to recover the remainder of their investment by selling common stock after GM’s initial public offering that is intended to take place this year.—–Thus, to re-iterate, GM did pay back its loan — sort of. Just a fact.
Report Post »Beverly Huffman
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:11am@MBRIZ, we as the American peolple have every right to be “angry” with the bailout, This admin seems to think taking money from the American people and their children and future grandchildren is just fine and dandy..Especially when the benefactors of that money go to the Unions and Government employees, well let me tell you something, you may be singing a song of praise because you kept your job, but look at the number of people that have lost theirs because of this communist administration, not to mention the homes they lost because the government so selfishly decided to get into the auto industry, the banking industry and the housing industry..so while your singing and jumping for joy, just remember one thing..The Communists always sure up their “Useful Idiots” and believe me this is one of those times..your job has not been saved Mr. the American people will see to that! Hopefully the American people will make darn sure the Unions will have there day too.
Report Post »Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:44amlooks like people are buying FORD,,,,,,,, right on!!!!!!!!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:53ammustang is 3, and taurus is 2
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:56amBought myF150 in 2005 after 2 months of reading articles and opinions on trucks. Looked up the inventory of local dealer, sifted through all of them and compared them to various reports.
I walked in with the pront out, VIN and a check for what I would pay…longest part of the day was waiting for them to find where it was on the back lot.
I’ve loved “Big Blue” since day 1 and have never stopped!
Report Post »ravinginfidel
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:44amJust unfetter the market and let the consumers pick the winners and losers.
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:40amI love my little Honda ! 34-36 MPG !
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:01amEver try loading a motorcycle in the back of your car or a deer carcass? My truck is much better for how I live my life than any honda could be. And don’t even bring up the underpowered, over-priced, plastic ridgeline that Honda offers.
Report Post »Mustangdave
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:39amLOL…with the exception of the ONE Toyota….notice which brands are REPRESENTIN’….GM and Chrysler….LOL…gosh what…no FORDS?
Report Post »ITGuy
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:48amI think the Avalon is there just because it’s the luxury version of the Camry and why buy it when you can get the Camry for way cheaper and better gas mileage.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:52amthere are fords…mustang number 3…sorry….taurus number 2
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:54amUmmm… If you follow the link, you will see that the Ford Mustang is number 3 and the Ford Taurus is number 2 on the list. Sorry bro’, but we have to keep it real.
3. Mustang
Decrease in units sold: 93,829
Pct drop: 58.2%
Base car price: $22,310
fuel efficiency: 19 city, 31 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 3/5
JD Powers reliability score: 4/5
2. Ford Taurus
Report Post »Decrease in units sold: 108,777
Pct drop: 62.4%
Base car price: $25,555
Fuel efficiency: 18 city, 28 hwy
JD Powers quality score: 4.5/5
JD Powers reliability score: 3.5/5
kraphtsman
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:39amNotice how 7 out of the 10 are produced by GM and Chrysler… seems America isn’t so fickle after all. When Government Motors I and II lose market share, and the U.S. based FOREIGN nameplates and Ford see increased sales I’m encouraged.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:38ammost of them are from GM Ford and Chrysler…what a surprise….
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:47amNone of them were fords. Only bailout vehicle company’s
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:52amthe mustang is number 3 and the taurus is number 2
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:38amI remember somone telling me that an older sports type car from years back (a good buff looking car)used to get something close to 50 miles to the gallon or something. You never see or hear of those cars anymore. They want to wean us on to the electric cars. Just think..wasn’t it China and Russia that had tapped into our power grid just a year or two ago?
Report Post »Lopez
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:30amThere were cars that had better mileage than now. However, they could not pass the crash tests. Less weight = less safety
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:50amYeah I kinda doubt that, unless you’re talking something like an MG. As noted, you just couldn’t build a car like that today. And knowing now how ridiculously unsafe they are, I doubt anyone in their right mind would even want to drive one of the original ones, on a routine basis at least.
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