They Swam for Their Lives: Death Toll Rises to 80+ at Youth Camp in Norway
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OSLO, Norway (The Blaze/AP) — A homegrown terrorist set off a deadly explosion in downtown Oslo before heading to a summer camp dressed as a police officer to commit one of the deadliest shooting sprees in history, killing at least 80 people as terrified youths ran and even swam for their lives, police said Friday.
Editor’s note: The death toll is now 84 and may rise.
Police initially said about 10 were killed at the forested camp on the island of Utoya, but some survivors said they thought the toll was much higher. Police director Oystein Maeland told reporters early Saturday they had discovered many more victims.
“It’s taken time to search the area. What we know now is that we can say that there are at least 80 killed at Utoya,” Maeland said. “It goes without saying that this gives dimensions to this incident that are exceptional.”
A suspect in the shootings, and the Oslo explosion that killed seven people, was arrested. Though police did not release his name, Norwegian national broadcaster NRK identified him as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik and said police searched his Oslo apartment overnight. NRK and other Norwegian media posted pictures of the blond, blue-eyed Norwegian.
This absolutely chilling video features interviews with some of the children who hid in fear as the killer, dressed in police uniform, tried to lure them to him:
A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.
“It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said. “This seems like a madman’s work.”
The official said the attack “is probably more Norway‘s Oklahoma City than it is Norway’s World Trade Center.” Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
The official added, however, “it’s still just hours since the incident happened. And the investigation is going on with all available resources.”
The attacks formed the deadliest day of terror in Western Europe since the 2004 Madrid train bombings, when shrapnel-filled bombs exploded, killing 191 people and wounding about 1,800.
The motive was unknown, but both attacks were in areas connected to the ruling Labor Party government. The youth camp, about 20 miles (35 kilometers) northwest of Oslo, is organized by the party’s youth wing, and the prime minister had been scheduled to speak there Saturday.
A 15-year-old camper named Elise said she heard gunshots, but then saw a police officer and thought she was safe. Then he started shooting people right before her eyes.
“I saw many dead people,” said Elise, whose father, Vidar Myhre, didn’t want her to disclose her last name. “He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water.”
Elise said she hid behind the same rock that the killer was standing on. “I could hear his breathing from the top of the rock,” she said.
She said it was impossible to say how many minutes passed while she was waiting for him to stop.
At a hotel in the village of Sundvollen, where survivors of the shooting were taken, 21-year-old Dana Berzingi wore pants stained with blood. He said the fake police officer ordered people to come closer, then pulled weapons and ammunition from a bag and started shooting.
Several victims “had pretended as if they were dead to survive,” Berzingi said. But after shooting the victims with one gun, the gunman shot them again in the head with a shotgun, he said.
“I lost several friends,” said Berzingi, who used the cell phone of one of those friends to call police.
The blast in Oslo, Norway’s capital and the city where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings. Most of the windows in the 20-floor high-rise where Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his administration work were shattered. Other buildings damaged house government offices and the headquarters of some of Norway’s leading newspapers.
National police chief Sveinung Sponheim said seven people were killed by the blast in downtown Oslo, four of whom have been identified, and that nine or 10 people were seriously injured.
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Comments (241)
AnAmerican111
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:23pmNo way this moron acted alone! Brain washed by some one!………….Maybe watched too much MSNBC………
Where were the authorities? Once again highlights how a insane idiot can get away with mass murder unless deadly force is used against him.
God Bless the kids and their families!
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:30pmHey Robert Redford, your kind of guy? Gonna make him a hero in one of your movies?
Report Post »TheCrusader007
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:44pmExcuse me?
Report Post »Where are the authorities? They only arrive AFTER something happens. Then it is too late.
Learn something here: The europeans have been striped off their weapons long ago.
The shiver when they hear people talking about shooting a gun on a shooting range, because “Guns are bad.” They have been socialized and brainwashed thoroughly. Same Obama wants for you guys and you better watch the other hand.
sissykatz
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:34amWhat a horrible horrible thing to have happened… This is so very sad. Things just seem so much
Report Post »worse when children are involved. This is just incredible. No matter what race or nationality or religion
this was pure evil. God be with these children and their families.So much damage and bloodshed.
drphil69
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:04amMy prayers go out to all the families and for the souls of the deceased.
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:16amA Christian zealot not a Muslim.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:30amDeuteronomy22, rare indeed.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:01amThe information coming in isn’tt clear yet. It’s at least conflicting, so there is reason to doubt if this is Islamic terrorism but not yet certainty that it isn’t.
Many of us, myself included jumped the gun. But given the history of actual jihadist atacks and active threats the assumption it was a jihadist attack was perfectly reasonable, And on top of that a jihadist group claimed responsibility.
f this was a Timothy McVeigh kind of act would make it the act of a madman, and madmen are impossible to predict or fit into a rational strategy. As much as I hate violent jihadists I understand them and see the rationality of their motivations. They are at war with the West. if this one man was simply at war with liberals in his own country then he has succeeded in nothing more than his own body count. No greater political objective could possible have been achieved. Rather the reverse.
Despite all the confusing information right now, there is ONE thing that is perfectly clear from this: Gun control is a miserable failure. Norway has very strict gun control, yet this murderer had tons of weaponry and his victims had NOTHING. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:31amGo ahead and blame the Muslims. Say this is another terrorist act by Muslims. That’s the way this website will present this.
My guess is however that this was a Timothy McVeigh type attack, a right wing group of people who decdided to kill as many liberals, including children of liberal parents as they could.
Of course these were crazy people. But give a second thought next time you say Muslims are terrorists. These where Caucasian people killing people simply because they were liberal, or where children of liberal parents.
I’m not accusing conservatives of anything. These were simply crazy people. All I‘m saying is that you shouldn’t be so smug and self-satisfied thinking that only Muslim (not white conservatives like you) commit mass murder.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:36amThis is exactly what one can expect in weak liberal society where everybody is a pansy except the bad people. Criminals and the criminally insane still get weapons while the general population is nothing but a target. Gun control is very bad and very stupid. Freedom as in ‘FREE’ is very good. If someone else among the sheeple had a gun many lives could have been saved as well as millions of dollars for the trial and extended period of grief while the piece of dung continues to remain in the public conciseness during an extended circus trial.
External control in all forms breeds weakness making us all ripe for destruction by the coming Caliphate. We used to be a nation of riflemen. That‘s why we won WWII with God’s help, of course. Now we’re weak and frightened like cute little rabbits and the bad guys of the world know it. They will kill more of us too because of our perceived weakness. How stupid are we? Compassion and strength are not incompatible. Strength and ‘personal’ responsibility are the answer. Not government control of every damn little thing. If it is not stopped soon it will kill us in many more ways including the dead kind of way.
Of course the other thing is that the whole world is going insane, if it were ever sane to begin with. This really must be the end times. If so, expect this to be nothing compared to what is coming. These images of the dead lying helter skelter seem to me to be a harbinger of the future…
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:18amThese kids were attending at Labor Party Youth (Socialist indoctrination) camp. These were the future Democratic Socialist Leftists that were being raised to destroy the country even more. They have affiliations with Socialist International and the Party of European Socialists. If this man was a native he was probably acting out against the Socialist traitors in his country that have sold out the people to Radical Leftist ideals and Islamic takeover. The same thing is happening here in America and the day will come when American patriots will have to stand against the War that has been declared on us by Islam, Socialism, and Foreign invasion.
Report Post »ForeignWatcher
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:23amHey, Nathaniel, but even with the 80 dead the murder rate is MUCH less in Norway than anywhere in the US. There are also much less people going postal, in absolut number and in percentages also.
Something in your logic is not quite right i think….
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:25am.
“Christian” zealot???
There is nothing in Christ’s teachings that would encourage such an act.
Report Post »ForeignWatcher
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:28amWow, kickillegalsout supports this terrorism? Is that what other blazians think to? That its OK to murder children if they are progressive?
Report Post »You are an evil beeing kick, truly evil.
hurricanerigger
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:10amFunny! Now we are gonna look at the political afiliation of every whacko!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:14amIf you were to die today, will you go to Heaven?
Report Post »gotta light
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:12amBetcha Norway never saw it coming…. Remember the good ole days when a homogenous population meant a happy population… Multi-culturalism eventually leads to nationalism as things far apart which leads this kind of mess…. Pray for Norway this may just be the beginning of things to come….
Hey bud gotta light?
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:16amNobody is considering the possibility of his being an islamic convert, or member of some group aligned with them. It remains to be seen how “right wing” he is.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:07amJust because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you kill them! When will we learn! Sad loss!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:19pmMaybe the rest of the socialist children will wake up and realize that they are giving away some of their essential liberties, such as the right to carry a firearm. Maybe some good can come of this by people realizing that the only way they can truly be safe is to take responsibility for their own security. If even a single person at that socialist party youth camp were packing a gun and knew how to use it, the death toll may have been less. Even if they didn’t shoot him, they may have scared him away, and if not even that, they would have distracted him a few more seconds so that others may have had a chance to live.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:49amJZS.. who the hell is smug about an act of terrorism?
Report Post »You can climb down off your own horse too because whether this was a right win job or not, there are sick people in every demographic.
junior1971
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:23pmYou fing lib fcks think this is a fing talking point!!!!!!!!!! You fing disgust me if feel like this is a toppic of discussion. Children dead, assfcks! You are worhtless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell that killer where you live red! Lets see how many tears you cry then!
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:28pmlol
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:41pmAgreed — and how long until it begins again here at home and the admin cracks down on the Right members who defend themselves against such attacks?
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:49pmyet many people on here instantly start talking about how gun control is bad and this is yet another point that everyone needs guns.
that or they talk about obama
Report Post »or congress
or liberals
or whatever.
KPEdwards
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:58pmSir, please shut up. While I‘m sure some from ’my side’ – for lack of a better description – will use this as a talking point, stop acting as if ‘your side’ 1)won’t and 2)hasn’t already. There were already two or three stories on here about how it was likely Islamic terrorism and using that as a talking point for ‘getting tougher on Islam’ sort of stance. And I’m not talking about just comments – theblaze quoted Bolton. Secondly, not two comments down someone is using this as a reason everyone should have guns. Now, I don’t want to get into a debate on gun control because using this as a base point would be in bad f-ing taste. All I want to say is stop shouting that one side is doing it. All it does is further the back and forth and makes this into a political thing while emotions are still high and the facts aren’t known.
Report Post »DSN397
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:27amJUNIORl971,
Do you talk to anyone other than those voices you keep hearing in your head. From reading your post, I suspect that it’s just a matter of time until you become cowardly enough to try and pull off some mass killing or major property destruction. When your puny ass finally gets arrested for whatever you come up ewith, be you give the policeman your your blaze moniker JUNIOR1971, that way well know that one more babbling blow hole is off the street, I’m not scared of you, I scared that I may never meet you and have the plesaure of bitch slapping you degenerate ass.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:37amYes redyanqui, the point of people lawfully owning and making lawful use of firearms so you as an individual do not have to be a victim of criminals or sociopaths like this guy who went on a rampage in Norway.
Report Post »Either curl up in a ball on the ground and allow yourself to be a victim or you stand up and do something about it. I would rather die standing on my feet then living on my knees.
Barack Oburgundy
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:51am@DSN397
You certainly write like a cop….fifth grade level. You sound like that a-hole Canton Ohio cop who was so macho he threatened to kill a legal concealed carry citizen. We will surely be reading about your macho dumb@ss while you are being investigated while on paid leave for bitch slapping some handcuffed prisoner for calling you a dumb dumb. 10-22 and let the adults talk tuff guy.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:59ami was making a point about people making political points.
youd be surprised about my views on guns are. but im not going to express them because i really dont care to debate it.
Report Post »Observer
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:49amThis shooting. Liberals and muslims are saying that they do not join the bandwagon on the condemnation of any tragedy. It’s only the conservative white people that do “that sort of thing”. And yet at the last count this morning 3 muslim groups are claiming responsibility for the deaths in Norway. I doubt if they or any cartoon really had anything to do with it. But many muslims this morning, are cheering in glee around the world about this tragedy in Norway. They are proclaiming world wide praise for this murdering man. But sadly we notice, the U. S. liberals. Those that are proven to be the chosen ones. Our only defenders of the underdogs. They are posting today, as a group of many, struggling to factually make a case that they, and only they, can carry the proud label. ” Stupid or Not…We are Anyone’s Defenders! ” or as I like to put it. The willing lap dogs of the muslim murderers, liberal drug gang members, and the white people that kill children in this world. Ignorant or stupid? Your call people……………. the kanga is tungortok …………..
Report Post »Jordan1
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:21pmThat guy wrote that he’s a “Christian conservative.” And he hated immigration and Muslims, so he’ll probably somehow be a hero to many of the people who comment on this website that are consumed with anti-Islamic hate. “Muslims made that wholesome Christian man so mad he just went crazy! How dare them! See how ALL of THEM are tricky and do dirty deeds?!” Oh how facts start to speak for themselves…
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:45pmYou might make some sense if he’d have killed muslims. But alas, you’re an idiot..
Report Post »Jordan1
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:17am@Viet Vet: Are you so dim that you can’t understand what I wrote? Use your “brain.” Oh never mind, you’re an idiot…
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:21amYet you claim he hated muslims so much then why did…he go out and kill a bunch of innocent white children? It makes no sense. Even if he did it to have everyone think muslims did it to rally people to hate muslims with him, he took NO steps to hide the fact of what race he was.
Also this seems strange a day or two after DHS pushes out those videos suggesting “homegrown” terrorists are more than likely white. And I can almost bet you money our media will pump up that “white christian homegrown terrorist” theme for months and years to come. Using this tragic incident to get people living in fear and giving up MORE of our rights in the pursuit of our “safety”.
And americans will foolishly go along with it, again.
Report Post »guntotinsquaw
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:32amThere are medications for your psychosis….your stupidity….well we all know you can’t fix stupid!
Report Post »rusty57
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:08amThere’s a lot of desperate spinning by rightwingers today who were sure they had another 9/11 story to talk about, and call for closing mosques and deporting Muslims from this country, and invading more Arab countries. I don’t want to jump the gun either, but it sure looks like this will turn out to be a Norwegian “Timothy McVeigh.”
The only thing that surprises me is the stories that his Facebook profile identifies him as a conservative Christian. From what little I’ve heard of Norwegian extremists groups in recent years, the right wing there seems to be dominated by neo-pagan groups, who want to go back to worshiping the old Norse gods, and are connected with a number of church-burning incidents.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:16amrusty57, are you so myopic that you think that even if this wasn’t a muslim attack, that will erase history and cause people to quit talking about the one’s who cause 99% of the terrorism????? Are you that out of whack??
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:44amJust because it appears it wasn‘t a Muslim Extremist group behind this doesn’t automatically make Islam a good thing. Islam is still evil. Evil wears many hats. I guess we will just have to wait and find out what this guys views were. Not that it matters. Murder is murder unless you are defending yourself.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:47am@rusty- and McVeigh was a professed Christian! I thought McVeigh was anti-government. Most Christians I know are not anti-government, they are limited government. Big difference.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:53pmJordan1, I understand what you wrote and you are correct about only one thing. The facts do speak for themselves. I don’t believe i see any posts on this website supporting this madmans killing spree from liberals or conservatives.
Report Post »Fact: Radical Islamists do commit most of the terrorists atrocities around the world in the name of Allah. (No I’m not saying all Muslims are terrorists)
Fact: Christs teachings support life and love; not murder.
Christian Kalgaard
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:17pm(VG Nett) At least 80 people are killed in shootings at a youth camp only hours after a massive bomb blast in central Oslo.
One man has been arrested after the shooting and police see a connection between the two attacks. The suspect is of Norwegian nationality, confirms Norwegian Minister of Justice Knut Storberget.
Several sources confirm; the detainee is Anders Behring Breivik, 32.
Late friday night, special forces raided Breiviks apartement in Oslo.
Youth camp
The first reports of shootings on Utøya, an island outside of Oslo, came around 18.25 PM Friday night.
According to a witness the gunman identified himself as a police officer before he started killing people.
Almost 700 young members of the Labour Party was at the island for a youth camp.
Police now confirms that at least 80 people are killed in the shootings at the island.
Police also said they found explosives on the island.
Explosion
This came only hours after a bomb exploded in a government building in central Oslo at 3.30 PM Friday afternoon.
The explosion killed at least seven people and ten people are seriously injured in the blast, confirms police.
A fake police officer was also seen at this scene.
Surrounding buildings was also affected by the attack. The bomb exploded close to Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg’s office. He was not at his office and has not been injured.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:16pmgun control control control control. no one should have the ability to control anyones defensive capabilities and beacause so many have. i <3 franklin "anonye who would surrender liberty for temporary saftey, deserves niether liberty nor safety" so sad but so true
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:19amGun control is knowing how to use a gun, when to use it, and a steady aim!
Report Post »Stronge
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:15pmFrom AP:
“A Norwegian police official says the 32-year-old Norwegian man suspected of the Oslo bombing and a shooting at a youth camp does not appear to be linked to Islamist terrorism. The official says the attacks probably have more in common with the 1995 attack on a U.S. federal building in Oklahoma City than the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. He says the suspect appears to have acted alone, and “it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” He added that the investigation is still ongoing and that things can change. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because that information has not yet been released by Norway’s police.”
And this from a Norwegian journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/ketilbstensrud):
Report Post »“Just been directed to what is reportedly the Facebook profile of the Utøya gunman. For obvious reasons I cannot share that yet. Looks crazy. The gunman had his own company, dealing with geofarming, which would explain access to explosives. The Oklahoma bomb was made of ammonium nitrate, which is frequently used in geo-farming. The Utøya gunman has a company dealing with it… The 32 year old ethnic Norwegian national arrested for the Utøya shootings belongs to a right-wing group, reports TV2.”
Cuthalu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:00amThat so called journalist seems to be making connections with Okalahoma city where there is none. Also, is that reporter privy to info about the bomb or bombs that went off in Norway that no one else has? Reason I ask is because there is no where in the news indicating what the bombs were made of yet this reporter seems sure he knows what it was made of. Unless that reporter is purposely pushing out false info to redirect people away from actual facts from this whole story, a shill working to spread propaganda?
Report Post »Blue Collar Conservative
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:52amI take exception with anyone relating European right wingers with American right wingers. Europe has never known freedom as we’ve known it. In Europe the right wing is miles to the left of our right wing (Anarchy being the farthest to the right in America). The right wing in Europe is generally fascist in nature, and communism is on the left. You can tell that all of these “worldly journalists” studied the same propaganda training manuals. ( or they’re just to lazy and merely repeat what the A.P. writes)
Report Post »quicker
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:34am@ blue collar consevreitive: I think also that if you go left far enough you will go full circle back to anarchy.
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:11pmI disagree with the fact that this person didn’t have help. Someone had to indoctrinate him and I believe that the current events in this world may have led to this happening. This also shows the danger in getting rid of guns, by going that you leave yourself vulnerable to this type of shooting.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:50pmAbsolutely right, when a madman goes off like this, and he’s the only one with a gun, there are going to be alot of casualties. You would think this group would have had some security.
Report Post »5thregNHSM
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:55pmguns dont kill people, gun control does
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:10pmwe’ll all know a whole lot more about this lunatic when his identity is released. i dont have to remind us all what assuming does without the facts.we need not argue over this madman.summer is just getting hot know tempers will be flaring everywhere. tis is not the season of hope and jolly as much as everyday should be. a sad shroud has fallen over mankind. it will soon be time to stop typing and blabbing away and well have to band together to battle this evil eye to eye. as much as i want to be more independent i fear one man cant defeat these demons. we all will have to be my brothers keeper
Report Post »jimdevy
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:07pmThey were just kids…
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:47amand at FT HOOD they were soldiers and civilians
and Obummer had to give a SHOUT OUT to an Indian Chief
as red blood ran down the ground at FT HOOD
As Glenn has said MANY times HOLD ON GANG it’s going to get ROUGH
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:06pmAbsolutely horrible. These children and their families are in my thoughts and prayers.
Report Post »Shadow5618
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:05pmWell, I finally understand why Glenn started GBTV. I have been watching all evening, and haven’t heard ONE WORD about this on mainstream TV. I agree that the lack of budget deal is very important, but I would think this tragedy would be important enough to at least get a minute of TV time! No wonder Americans are so clueless about world affairs. Thank you, Glenn, and God bless the people of Norway who are hurting so badly tonight. We grieve with you.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:30pmIt has been on MSM all day. I first read of it happening within one hour and certainly not on Fox or GBTV. This site immediately went to the Muslim story that proved to be false, at least so far. Wonder if the posters from the original story on The Blaze will apologize for jumping to the Muslim conclusion. Nah, that would be Christian of them.
Report Post »Christians my ass.
BallisticBob
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:31pmTrust me, if this had happened in Israel, it would be wall to wall coverage.
Norway? Not so much.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:54pmLMAO, how can posters be chastised for commenting on the story as printed???
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:55pmI should have added, especially when Islamic terrorists were taking credit for it.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:21amAnd exactly whose fault is that the modern Western White Man tends to equate terrorism with Muslims?
On behalf of Catholics, Protestants, Odinists, Odalists, Olympists, and all other Westerners, I apologize to the Muslim world for thinking this may have been the act of one of them.
Now would you care to discuss the 99.9% of other terrorist acts in the last ten years or so which ARE the Muslims fault?
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:49amLast 40 years even.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:00pmYes it was a little ridiculous of me to expect people not to comment on the “facts” as presented in the original story. So Viet Vet, I offer you my apology.
Now as for NSWPP you Nazi piece of garbage. Your National Socialist White People’s Party would be proud that they finally recruited someone who can string a sentence together. Must be such disappointment to you to find that your parents are not actually cousins, as it must the only that saved you from the intellectual depths most of your type suffer within. Hope you don’t think you are finding a sympathetic audience here at The Blaze because though I may not always agree with the social issues presented here, I am confident that 99% of the posters here are too smart to not see through your white power crap.
Report Post »Try another site for your recruitment activities or better yet, move back to your beloved Germany where you will find how they treat Nazi d-bags like you.
N37BU6
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:00pmDoesn’t matter what he called himself, or what he stood for… we’re all individuals. He’s a murderer, and that’s all there is to it.
Report Post »tmkphx1962
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:00pmTime to profile EVERY muslim in the West. The real problem is islam itself. Not radical or political islam.
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:08pmWhy? A Muslim wasn’t responsible for this. I suggest you take a look at what N37BU6 had to say on the matter.
“Doesn’t matter what he called himself, or what he stood for… we’re all individuals. He’s a murderer, and that’s all there is to it.”
I agree with him, and I think that’s true regardless of the race or religion of the attacker.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:51amIf this murderer isn‘t musllim it’s an abberation, they are few by comparison. By far the atrocities like this are caused by muslims.
Report Post »rojotx
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:58pm“Comment: False cops? These are professionals. The shootings happened at the same time as the explosion, but far, far away from each other (several houres + you have to take a boat to get to the island).”
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rojotx
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:28pmhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/norway-blast-near-prime-ministers-office-in-oslo.html
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:58pmSuper strict Norwegian gun control laws didn’t keep guns away from this crazy. If one of the camp leaders had been armed this dude might not have lived long enough to kill so many kids.
Report Post »avgconservative
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:24amLet ‘em pride themselves on being “liberal.” They will see that the utopia they falsely believe they live in, is non-existence. They are cattle being slaughtered for the cause of nothing.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:27amYou sure? I thought Norway was one of the few pro-gun European countries like Swizterland that have reasonable respect of firearms and most people owned one and were very responsible with them unlike the rest of Europe who seem almost anti-guns.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:58pmIt seems beyond question that this evil person was indeed an “ethnic Norwegian”; however, Mohammedan terror groups are claiming responsibility and there have already been (suppressed) whispers that he was a convert to Mohammedanism.
NSWPP
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:14pmWell aren’t you the bright boy to see through my clever disguise.
I’d love to meet you in person sometime and perhaps we can iron out our differences.
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:16pmEven if he is a convert, it shatters all of the “profile Muslim” theories that are seen on this site.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:23pmim surprised the admins allowed an openly anti-semetic, fascist, and racist poster stay on here for so long.
sure, im surprised i havent been kicked off yet for being an open communist. i guess it might be because im an anfi-fascist, anti-racist, anti anti-semite. either that or they just dont care.
if thats the case. ill say this. im guessing you, at one point, had a meth problem or still do and you have swastikas and thunderbolts on your body somewhere pelaching against capitalism and socialism because they are apparently tools for the “international jewish conpiracy”
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:25pmand yes, “pelaching” was meant to be “preaching”
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:53pmoh also, seeing as some posts were deleted.
“NSWPP” means “National Socialist White Peoples Party”
The avatar is a Rune.
Nazism is very into the occult and among many other things, extreme germanic traditionalism and norse mythology.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:10amYou’re here for comic relief, commie.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:12amBTW, there is no such person or thing as “Nazi.“ The term is ”National Socialist.”
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:17amAnd regarding your ad hominem dribblings, I have never indulged in any substances more potent than the creations of Sam Adams and the occasional single malt whisky. No tats. Sorry to burst your little stereotype bubble. And before you can speculate further regarding my criminal record — I have never had so much as a speeding ticket. In many ways, I am quite boring.
Aside from being Vice Chairman of the (Reconstituted) NSWPP.
The only good commie is a dead commie.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:19amdo you correct everyone on that when you march around in your hollywood costume?
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:22amho ho ho! we got a vice chairman of the NSWPP on a website for supposed anti-racist conservatives.
so, do you tag along with the NSM to their conferences to get sent to the hospital by anti-fascists like in trenton NJ?
or do you try to brainwash your kid until they end up capping you?
or what?
Report Post »ethanesmay
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:57pmwho would mess with these people look at there history pre 1900′s what are you thinking? good luck with that!
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:57pmwe are a pathetic race. to sit scared and do nothing (Elise). im ashamed to be part of such a race tonight. we are in such a state of denial its time to raise militias and restore honor and integrity to humanity. like weve all heard before “the police cant protect just investigate it when your dead” even on our own army bases in the middle of the streets. how blind we are to these mini hitlers. and bill ayers is in our midst, if he had his way we would all be victim of a third great leap forward. CLOSE YOUR EYES AND IMAGINE TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW. or try not to
Report Post »Lonescrapper
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:10pmHe wouldn’t have got off both pistol and shotgun shots in Texas. But everyone with a gripe now feels entitled to take it out on the public. We are like Dodge City all over the world! The IRA is even crawling back out from the rock its been under. Every group feels empowered to terrorize when the governments of the world won’t even call them what they are: TERRORISTS.
Report Post »sgtseeg
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:59pmYes true, except race doesn’t matter, belief in the founding father’s road to self government does.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:53pmIt is tragic that this lunatic was apparently the only person on the island with a firearm.
Report Post »jmgair
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:47pmWOW, another Muslim dressed like a cop killing inocent kids indescriminantly ?? Who would have thought that could happen after they bombed the buildings in Oslo ? I am sure that Obama can say that it was just an isolated incident and nothing to worry about.
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:56pm@JMGAIR
He wasn’t Muslim, he was Christian. An ethnic-Norwegian nationalist.
Anyone can commit unspeakable acts of violence.
Report Post »okiemomo
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:45pmJust sickening and heartbreaking.
Report Post »TrustyShellback
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:45pmHe wasn’t a Christian. Real genuine Christians don’t do things like this. He may have claimed to be a Christian but there is no evidence to support the claim. I feel horrible for these people and I will lift them up in prayer.
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:20pmWould you say the same thing if he claimed to be a Muslim?
Report Post »saranda
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:33pmYeah, real Christians post on websites about the Muslims and how evil the libs are. Those are real Christians,,,,,my ass.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:58amYes Saranda, Christians are very truthful.
Report Post »bry
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:40pmThis attack at the youth camp is gut-wrenching. Not to minimize the tragedy in Oslo, that was horrific . So many young people gunned down, shown no mercy. My heart aches for the victims and their families.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:40pmA sad , sad day in Norway. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:40pmThe attacker was an anti-Islamic, anti-immigration ethnically-Norwegian Christian nationalist who loathed multiculturalism. Terrorism is bounded by neither faith nor ethnicity. Tragic.
Report Post »TrustyShellback
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:49pmHe wasn’t a Christian. Real genuine Christians don’t do things like this. He may have claimed to be a Christian but there is no evidence to support the claim. I feel horrible for these people and will lift them up in prayer.
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:51pmSo you know more than the police in Norway know??
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:53pmBut it is CRITICAL that you and everyone in the West not let that “fact” cloud your mind to the point that you disregard the FACT and the REALITY that MUHAMMAD HIMSELF makes this guy today look like a quaint schoolboy playing a child’s game. Not only was Muhammad a terrorist and an murderer but he created a whole religion that endorses and requires terrorism and killing of it’s followers. That other people have been terrorists and will be terrorists does not change these critical facts that the West must grasp about Muhammad and Islam. What this guy did today is an out of the ordinary exception but terrorism is a core integral part of Islam and of the example of Muhammad. That is why so many assumed at first that this guy was a Muslim, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he was.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:53pmThat makes no sense either, if all you claim is true then why would he mindlessly go after and kill other ethnic Norwegians instead of the people he supposedly hated?
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:54pmWhere did you get all the information of anti this, anti that???????? Don’t you think it might be better to wait and find out WHAT he is or is not??????? OR you might be better at reading tea leaves!!!!
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Colonel-Burkhalter
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:55pmGeez, it seems as if Red knows more about the shooter than anyone?????? How does he know the guy was a Christian against mulitculturalism ect, ect????
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:59pm@BULLCRAPBUSTER
No, what I said was straight from the horse’s (in this case, the Norwegian police) mouth. They caught the guy on the island.
@CUTHALU
The youth camp was for young political activists of the ruling Norwegian Labour Party (social democratic). Although exact motives remain unclear, one could assume he believed his government should have been preventing immigration of non-Western peoples into the country, and his disillusionment with them led to these attacks. That’s speculative for now, but the police have little doubt his sympathies lay with anti-multicultural nationalism so it may not be too far off.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:04pmBULLCRAP…maybe you should get off this site and get around. REUTERS is live-blogging this horrific tragedy. They have a suspect: anti-muslim, right-wing extremist white supremacist.
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:06pmhttp://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/22/oslo-terror-suspect.html
“Aftenposten [major Norwegian news outlet] notes that he is said to be a conservative Christian and a Mason, and into hunting and bodybuilding. He owned a farming company that had access to chemicals believed to have been used for bomb-making. According to comments attributed to him on various Norwegian right-wing/anti-immigrant forums, he was a fan of an array of white supremacist and anti-Muslim pundits—including some from the US.”
http://volokh.com/2011/07/22/48749/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+volokh%2Fmainfeed+%28The+Volokh+Conspiracy%29&utm_content=FaceBook.
“In online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism — that cultural differences can live together in a community.In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.”
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:13pmbeat me to it.
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:15pmHow do you know this lunatic wasn’t one of the death metal pagan anti Christian “ethnic Norwegians” who have burned dozens of beautiful Medieval Norwegian wooden Stave churches over the past 20 years and hate Christianity as much as you and any Muslim does? This sort of thing happens on an almost daily basis in the Islamic world ( Muslims killing others Muslims) and we yawn because it’s almost “normal” in that culture.
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:51pmchalk one up for the white guys is what your saying huh? that would make us one and the muslims a few hundred thousand. i think we’ll just keep knowing what a terrorist looks like thank you.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:07am“In online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism — that cultural differences can live together in a community.In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.”
Well, he seemed to have his head on straight here. We’ll have to wait and see, it’s a little too early to know just what actually went down.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:24amFurther, while I agree that it’s a battle between nationalism and internationalism, I disagree with him when he said it’s no longer between socialism and capitalism. At least it certainly is in the U.S. This is all contingent on if he factually said any of this.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:35am“Terrorism is bounded by neither faith nor ethnicity.”
Except by percentage.
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