Think You Know George Zimmerman? This New Timeline and Profile Could Change the Perception (and the Case)
- Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:24am by
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George Zimmerman
When the Trayvon Martin case first started garnering national attention, there were many that thought they knew who George Zimmerman was: an overzealous racist with a vendetta against young black men who was on a mission to assert power with his gun. But then little details started emerging, such as pictures of Zimmerman’s bloody head that could bolster his self-defense claim; CNN even backtracked and said the tape it once suggested showed Zimmerman uttering a racist slur was actually him most likely saying it was “cold.”
And now, Reuters has put together a detailed profile of Zimmerman that seems to suggest he was a concerned citizen that was trying to help fix his community and those in it reeling from recent crime. He was a compassionate neighbor, it seems, not a lunatic with a gun.
“During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black,” Reuters reports. “After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old.
“But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman’s past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.” [Emphasis added]
So what does it show? For starters, it was an animal control officer who told Zimmerman he should get a gun after a pit bull was menacing him and his wife. His friends, however, never even knew he had a firemarm until about two months ago. And, Reuters says, “He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather – the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.”
Business Insider put together some chronological bullet points highlighting the article’s most important points:
- Zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race household
- He was an altar boy at his Caltholic church from age 7-17
- He is bilingual
- After he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance license
- In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an Allstate insurance office (which soon failed)
- Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest for “resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer” occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of his
- Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black.
- In 2009, Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College
- In the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered Shellie in the Zimmermans’ yard. George Zimmerman asked a police officer whether he should buy pepper spray. The cop told him pepper spray wasn’t fast enough and recommended that he get a gun.
- By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes “was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins.” In several of the cases, witnesses said the robbers were young black men
- In July 2011, a black teenager stole a bicycle off the Zimmermans’ porch
- In August of 2011, a neighbor of the Zimmermans, Olivia Bertalan, was home during the day when two young black men entered her house. She hid in a room upstairs and called the police. When the police arrived, the two men, who had been trying to take a TV, fled. One of them ran through the Zimmermans’ yard.
- After the break-in, George Zimmerman stopped by the Bertalans and gave Olivia a card with his name and number on it. He told her to visit his wife Shellie if she felt unsafe.
- The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead. Zimmerman got a second dog–a Rottweiler.
- In September, several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.
- In the next month, two more houses in the neighborhood were robbed.
- A community newsletter reminded residents to report any crimes to the police and then call “George Zimmerman, our captain.”
- On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman spotted a young black man looking into the windows of a neighbor’s empty house. He called the police and said “I don‘t know what he’s doing. I don’t want to approach him, personally.” The police sent a car, but by the time they arrived, the man was gone.
- On February 6th, another house was burglarized. Witnesses said two of the robbers were black teenagers. One, who had prior burglary convictions, was soon caught with a laptop stolen from the house.
- Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.
Is it possible that Zimmerman is an angry racist? It is. But as Business Insider wonders, “doesn’t it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?”
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:08am.
Report Post »The Africans wanted George to be a White Guy so Bad. So what Ya’ll gonna do now? I mean this has now become a Black on Black Crime, because of the 1/10th Rule………..
PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:07amI guess I’m risking my safety by saying this, but I’ve suspected all along that since all this came off so quickly before all the details were out (and apparently false info was being reported) that everyone might be terribly wrong about Zimmerman and worried that a good man was being raked over the coals. Everyday it appears more and more like that is the case. We‘ll know soon enough if this disappears from the news cycle then we’ll know that Zimmerman was telling the truth because if they get prooved wrong the radical liberals will want this to go away as fast as possible.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:22amJust like Tawanna Brawley, the Tucson shooting or the Cambridge incident, jump in, assign blame, assassinate character, get the Rev Team revved up, try and convict, then…….those inconvenient little facts come into play and the media-painted(or should I say “tainted”) story doesn’t seem quite the same. And from the non-campaigning WH and the “unbiased” DOJ we hear only the sound of those darn crickets chirping away.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:30am.
Report Post »Does anyone think the facts will matter in this case?
Zimmerman will be thrown under the bus to placate the black community.
It’s “social justice.”, just like O.J. going free.
lvamervet
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:49amGeorge Zimmerman cannot get a fair trial…… There are some in the Black community and the MSM that will only accept GUILTY….
You could also say that Trayvon Martin did not get a fair trial….. There are only 2 people that really know what happened.
Could Trayvon have gone after the gun?
Trayvon‘s family will have to live with the loss of their son for the rest of their’s lives… Pray for them.
Report Post »G-WHIZ
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:11am1) “The police acted stupidly”:BHO. “zimmerman is a white racist” BHO+his whole adm. .
Report Post »2) Does this mean All HISPANICS are WHITE-RACISIS?? I thought only caucasions were “white”.
I am a USA-legal citizen…and SWEEDISH…raised by born-hear-Sweede-American, and a born-here Dutch-American…NON OF MY ANSESTORS HAD SLAVES…and I am “white”…actually, light-minella with light-hazel-eyes,and light-brown hair. Why don’t the idiot-white-haters think about the many other countries which never had “black”-only slaves, or no slaves at all.
Carl McPherson
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:17amCan you even remember (honestly) when facts and the truth actually mattered?
Think long and hard… I can’t recall back that far.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:17am@patriot & mittens
Agree!
Report Post »timeout
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:19amEveryone who is not part of the BHO “brown shirt” program is at risk. This will be the case for a while, even when he is voted out!
As for George: he will be at risk for a very long time. And we can thank the likes of BHO, Sharpton, Jackson, and every other idiot involved. Scary times.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:31amThis man is being railroaded by the State of Florida because of a bunch of RACISTS who want him dead.
Anyone who would like to contact the office of the Florida Governor can do so at the following link .. You can use county as “Charlotte” and Zip code “33981”
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:34amI agree with what Alan Dershowitz says about this: The Prosecutor is a jerk, horrible rep; over charges, just a pawn to shut up the ‘noise’. A smarter tact would have been to post signs: Neighborhood watch, we are armed. OR let that word get out. Alarms on homes in the neighborhood are good too.
I think it’s terribly sad…I think the kid was probably heading in the wrong direction (according to his school reports etc) and now maybe a lot of other kids learned from this. I think Sharpton is a jackass of the highest order, Jesse too, all of them. IF I had to guess, I’d say that Zimmerman
continued to follow fearing the kid would get away and he called out to the kid something like “I’m going to get you” and the kid charged him, not thinking he was armed and Zimmerman shot him. Then ‘hurt his head”… or the kid realized he was being followed, hid behind a bush and jumped Zimmerman. Either way…Zimmerman, had he just backed off like cops told him to do, would not be in this mess, and this mess would not have happened and this kid would be alive….
In other words, Zimmerman brought this upon himself. He would have been better off to be armed with night camera and gotten photos of this kids in case there was robbery. THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE on all sides go too far and instead of seeking solutions, but seek vengeance instead. We need a lot of prayer people. The hysterics and self-serving interlopers
IndyArmyVet
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:37amJesse/Al/Farakahn/Obama all thought they had a white, gun-totin NRA member to crucify. Turns out, much like the Duke Lacrosse case, they jumped the gun and ended up with a hispaninc Democrat as the shooter. Oops!!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:41amBut to add insult to injury, remember all of the whites who have been beaten to the war cry “Justice for Trevon”. The lies of the media plus the lies and distortions of the truth by Sharpton, Jesse,Farrakhan and others plus the tacit approval of Obama led to these assaults.
The media convicted Zimmerman. Angela Corey has convicted Zimmerman. Racists blacks led by their hate mongering leaders convicted Zimmerman. All without truth or a trial.
JRook
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:46am@PATRIOTMAMA By all means don’t risk your safety. “since all this came off so quickly” First of all it did not come out quickly. It started as a ground swell because the police failed to investigate the situation and now according to the official timeline were told not to arrest Zimmerman by the state AG’s office. Second, you clearly admit by your comment that you also took a position before all the facts were known and many still remain unknown. It is unfortunate to see the blaze participate in Zimmreman‘s lawyer’s and friends PR campaign on his behalf. All that matters is the sequence of events on the night and crime in question. A kid is dead and a 29 year adult shot him. Zimmerman cannot claim stand your ground on a conflict he initiated.by first following they kid, getting out of his car and in some manner confronting him. The kid was not doing anything that was suspicious, unless of course people here feel a black youth walking down the street is suspicious. So all the unrelated and unimportant facts presented above show nothing and indicate nothing about why Zimmerman shot and killed a kid.
Report Post »mils
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:02amFlorida best batten down…the blacks will riot anyway. I have so many nasty things on the tip of my tongue that I will just shut up.
Report Post »The Martin family has suffered a great loss. Maybe their grief is clouding their vision as they are being led astray on how to handle life at this point
However, that being said, my prayers are with George and his family.
VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:02amIf a boy scout shoots a cop are you gonna want him to be let off also?
It doesn’t matter who is he, it matters what he did.
Last sentence sums it up
“This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.”
That’s all the evidence I need.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:08amZimmerman is a hero. Blacks and the US Government are still going to lynch him and violate his hanging body, but we will stand, watch, cower and salute this hero. No one in Zimmerman’s neighborhood or my neighborhood want to help patrol the streets. No one helped Zimmerman before or after his beating by Martin.
You just cannot help a nation that refuses to be helped.
teamarcheson
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:12amPeople roll their eyes when you speak to them about a Neighborhood Watch. They fear thinking about safety because that would force them to do something and they would rather let someone else do it for them.
Report Post »Gabbie
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:15amThis is not going to leave the news cycle, this will carried to the election and it would not surprise me if this was cooked up by the Obama people. This was brought up a month after it happened. Now you have the two poverty pimps beside themselves wanting to have violence. This is something that the Democrats want to keep going and to force this into a race riot this summer and someone will be killed. They have now made this man a Dead Man Walking, no matter what, he will be killed and the Democrats will blame the Republicans. I wonder if Obama would want Travyon dating one of his daughters.
Report Post »wythepatriot
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:15amJRook What a Troll!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:17amVoteBushIn12
you have confused a 911 operator with police. the operator suggested that he not pursue. This is not some sort of legal and authorized order that one must obey. It is not the same as police ordering you to do something. My house was getting burglarized years ago, and the 911 operator told my wife to go back to bed, that she most likely heard an animal. There was an actual man trying to beat down the front door. On the third 911 call, the police responded. Unfortunately, I was out of town working, or there would have been a much different outcome, then the police releasing this thug in my front yard, because he had not actually broke in.
You will notice that on numerous occasion, black thugs had burglarized others in the neighborhood, and police were always too late to catch them. One neighbor actually had to hid in the closet, while black thugs ransacked here house, and police were to slow to catch them.
It is not a crime to watch your neighborhood. If Treyvon is the attacker, and jumped on Zimmerman and beat his head into the curb, then Zimmerman had the right to self defense.
Remember also that at school, Treyvon was caught with jewelry, burglary tools, and marijuana.
Why is it that facts always seem to mess up liberals in their weak arguments.
Report Post »wayner4162
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:18amWhen this story first broke in the media, it appeared that the black community and the media wanted very badly for this to relate to a “White” Male, the first I ever saw the expression, “White Hispanic” was in this story. White males in this country had better wake up, their is a cultural war against them, it has been going on for decades, there is also a cultural genocide that is going on against white males in this country, this shooting of a black male, and the initial dis-information put out by the media to connect this shooting to an “angry white male” is just one more incident of thousands and just one more method of the cultural destruction of the reputation and character of White Males.
We are made to look like idiots and weaklings in TV commercials, Movies and Educational Facilities around the country, white males are an endangered species in the US.
portague
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:21amJrook”first following they kid,” not illegal or technically instagating and does not mean he is guilty or a racist
Report Post »“ getting out of his car ” same thing
“and in some manner confronting him” you do not know this one for a fact you were not there. Far as we know the kid doubled back and jumped him like he said. Pined him to the ground and beat his head against the side walk (there is now a picture that supports the head banging). Everthing after the he hung up with the police to the shooting will have to be supported by evidence apparantly a lot which is unknown to the public(also that the deadzone know one knows what happened). To say guilty or innocent right now would be wrong. The evidence thats coming out does not eve support second degree murder but more along the lines of manslaughter at most at the moment again depends on the unknown evidence that is floating out there.
drattastic
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:24amAnything that hastens the inevitable violent“reset” that is coming in this country ,I guess I won’t complain. Even if it is a Hispanic killing a black that somehow became the white mans fault.Doesn’t really matter it is coming anyway might as well get it over with, I ain’t getting and younger or better prepared . Are you prepared ?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:27amJRook
Did you actually read the story. This is a neighborhood that was getting burglarized on a regular basis by black thugs. Zimmerman just previously saw a black thug looking into the window of a neighbors house, when he called the law, they were too late.
In the dark of night, he sees a tall black man with a hooded sweatshirt wandering the neighborhood in the rain. As the neighborhood watchman, he calls police, and follows the tall black man (who happens to be 17, over six feet tall, and has a previous record of having been caught with burglary tools).
If I was walking through your neighborhood in the dark of night, and you came out, declared yourself the neighborhood watch, and questioned my, I would provide my picture ID, and state my reason for being in your neighborhood. An example, I might state that I am staying down the road with the Smiths, and inform you that you are welcome to follow me to the Smith’s house, and question them to my validity. I would not jump on you, and beat your head into the curb.
You seem to be blind to the fact that we have an epidemic of young black thugs in this nation that have no respect for authority, law, teachers, sports referees…. It stems from the welfare, the violent rap music, the multiculturalism in education, and teaching these kids that they are all victims and are owed something.
To cap it all off, we got idiots like you defending the thugs, and wanting to criminalize the law abiding.
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:35amThe only people “SURPRISED” or “SHOCKED” by this at this point, are either a) complete idiots, b) People living on Mars, 3) liberals 4) Stu, and very likely Glenn. Ahhhh the lawsuits are gonna be wonderful. I can hear the reporters now…”So Mr. Zimmerman, now that you have taken over (NBC, ABC et. all) what are your plans?” Work on your backpedaling there Stu-and Glenn. I’d hate to see you guys get sued too. No wonder Zimmerman spoke to Hannity. Reminds us all that NO ONE is always right-and that includes otherwise great talk show hosts like Glenn-who WILL be proven wrong in his assumption of guilt on Zimmerman.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:56amThe Democrat Playbook
- Persecute all blacks who are smart & independent
- Defend & promote all blacks who break the law.
Report Post »sophie02
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:59amI agree with you Patriotmama. Unfortunately, I believe that there will never be enough “justice for Trayvon” for some folks in this country. No matter what information comes out, any undeniable proof that Zimmerman acted in self defense, it will never be enough. I‘m so sorry for the Martin boy’s parents, but what‘s being done to the Zimmerman family won’t bring their son Trayvon back. It’s very sad on both sides. I pray for a peaceful resolution, and that the Martin’s can have peace in their hearts.
Report Post »ijava44
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:33pmTreyvon Martin was shot by a white hispanic african peruvian american who is a registered democrat. If President Obama was honest he would say “if I had a son he would look like Treyvon Martin or George Zimmerman.
Report Post »toto
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:09pmIf Sharpton and friends, plus Obama, do not give a complete and total PUBLIC apology (not holding my breath, for they are utterly without scruples) I hope Zimmerman finds a way to sue them as well as the networks for criminal defamation with intent to do harm. If there is no such a law, there should be, and Obama should not be immune.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:10pmNon of this new stuff matters. He is white and he did it and that is that. Zim could be a Martian and it would not matter one iota.They have their narrative and nobody is going to take it away.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:15pmThe judge in this case could put a stop to all of this real easy…First issue warrants for anyone insiting violence or riots. Second move the case out of the area and ban all media from the courtroom (they can access transcripts when the trial is over). And third postpone the trial until after the election to prevent folks (like the prosecutor) from grandstanding for votes. This would all go away over night with these three steps.
Report Post »dblaess
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:21pm@jrook
It looks like you are wrong again. It would appear that patroitmama was trying not to judge without knowing the facts, unlike you and others who already had a pre-concieved judgement without any facts. I bet you even knew about the following case in Florida but since you are a paid troll, you knew just like nbc, could never be acknowledged less the racial template be completed.
Florida stand your ground law cases
Report Post »The controversial stand your ground law that police initially cited in their decision not to charge the man who shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin has been invoked nearly 200 times statewide since 2005. A Tampa Bay Times survey, compiled from Florida newspapers and public records, shows that police and prosecutors continue to apply the self defense law unevenly.
Cases
Young. Black. Male.
Defendant: Demarro Battle
Victim: Omar Bonilla
Case Details
Incident date: July 17, 2009
Location: During party at victim’s home in Fort Myers, Lee County
What happened: Demarro Battle fatally shot Omar Bonilla after an argument at a party. Earlier in the dispute, Bonilla had fired his gun into the ground and beaten Battle in the head. Then Bonilla ran inside his apartment, gave his gun to a friend, telling him to hide it, and returned unarmed to confront Battle. Battle, meanwhile, had retrieved his gun from his car and fatally shot Bonilla.
The outcome: Battle was arrested by police and charged with second-degree murder. But charges were dropped b
mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:24pmAlso, as I have said before no ones opinion matters, only facts and law. For those who think Trayvon was trespassing, so he was not. You can be in a gated community if you are invited by a resident or have other business there. For those who think Zimmerman was in the wrong for “profiling”. Private citizens can think and even say whatever they want, racist or not. For those that think Zimmerman was wrong for carrying a gun or for following Trayvon. Following someone on a public street (even if a 911 operator tells you not to-they are basically phone secretaries) is not a crime. The gun was a legal firearm and he was carrying it in a legal fashion. So still no crimes commited here. When did a crime occur? When someone made PHYSICAL contact with someone else. I don’t care if Zimmerman was in his face and calling him the “n” word, Trayvon did not have a right to lay his hands on him. If Trayvon called Zimmerman names and yelled racial slurs at him, Zimmerman did not have a right to lay his hands on Trayvon. So it all boils down to who hit or grabbed who first. Zimmerman says Trayvon attacked him and he defended his life. Unless the prossector can prove through physical evidence or eye witness testimony that is not what happened, then Zimmerman must be set free. It is the prossecutors job to PROOVE that Zimmerman commited a crime, not Zimmerman’s job to prove that he did not. That’s the end of the story.
Report Post »toto
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:26pmPatty Henry, isn’t it time to stop calling for us all to be cowards? While I am sorry Trayvon died, I would be willing to bet he was the aggressor and had a chip on his shoulder the size of Gibraltar. I am tired of the mentality that we should allow bad behavior to go unchallenged by us as citizens. We used to correct each other’s children and impose standands of behavior. Now neither the parents nor the kids seem to have any. As more info comes out, I keep waiting for an “in depth” examination of Trayvon. What little I have seen and read doesn’t make him seem like an innocent choirboy. His tweets were pretty disgusting, and if this passes for normal, we are in BIG trouble.
nomorpc4me
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:28pmSecret Squirrel,
You hit the nail right on the head. I’d like to add that social justice is only applied when it is convenient for the left and usually for only one group of people.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:44pmmtcountrygrl
Good job on stating the facts, and you are 100% correct. Libs do not want to hear logic and facts and law, it gets in the way of their talking points and slogans.
I like that you stated that Zimmerman could follow him, call him the N word, and it does not make him guilty. It all comes down to who attacked who?
mils
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:45pmgeorge followed dispatcher instructions to not follow….dispatcher said he didn’t need to follow…GEORGE SAID…”OKAY:=”… he didn’t continue to track the 17 year old…the tapes show this..
chezhockey
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:01pm@JROOK
“So all the unrelated and unimportant facts presented above show nothing and indicate nothing about why Zimmerman shot and killed a kid.”
Are you kidding me? How about the broken nose, gashes to the back of Zimmerman’s head, and the two witnesses, one a 12 year old who would most likely be afraid to lie to the police and who’s account mirrors the adult witnesses account exactly, that Martin was on top of Zimmerman bashing his head into the concrete? Is that not evidence? if it’s not, then you need to turn in your lawyer’s license…
G8torBob
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:07pmI live in central Florida and I am in the insurance business. Sanford has one of the highest loss-ratios for a city in central Florida. There is an epidemic of thefts and we have been advised by carriers to recommend insured’s get an alarm system at the least. The majority of thefts are from people who fit Trayvon’s profile….
Clive
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:28pmGeorge can’t claim “self defense” because he chased the kid around. The prosecution will say “At any point, he could have gone home and let the cops handle it, but he didn’t. At the moment he disregards the dispatch, and continues following the boy with a handgun, he becomes the aggressor.” And they are right. Case is over and George gets a life sentence.
That being said, i don’t think he is a racist, just a stupid guy, who did something stupid, and now his life is over. Even if he gets off on a technicality, street justice awaits.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:36pmHe obviously doesn’t appear racist. It was just NBC, MSDNC, and CNN telling people what to think again. It seems like they tried to convict an innocent man to push their Liberal agenda. Their Liberal ideology is more important to them than human life. Fox News told people not to rush to judgment. Liberal media judged him and fools that knew nothing (Jackson, Sharpton) called for people to see everything through the Liberal (everything’s about race and money) lens.
Report Post »So, why did they target whites? Black and Peruvian, is he white too? He’s a Heinz-57, like me. I‘m such a mix of nationalities that I don’t know what I Liberals would call me – but nor do I care. I always leave the (white, black, hispanic, or asian) question blank. Judge me by my content of character. I’m a poor and shy but honest and hard working Conservative-leaning Libertarian who wanted to be a math teacher but didn’t have the money to finish college. IQ professionally tested at 119 and I will not vote for Obama. Skin color? If you didn‘t care about the things that matter in my life then why would you care about the things that don’t matter – like my skin, hair, and eye color? I’ll never understand Liberals. All logic, human decency, and common sense must be tossed aside to understand them.
GiveUsJustice
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:58pm@jrook
“So all the unrelated and unimportant facts presented above show nothing and indicate nothing about why Zimmerman shot and killed a kid.”
I’m confused with the “kid” statement. Are you putting that in the sentence to pursue that Trayvon was helpless? out manned? to small? to take on a man double his age and bigger?
Obviously that wasn’t the case was it. At what point do you consider someone a man? I would say when he can kick your ass.
I love how you and others like you try to make Trayvon out to be a helpless victim in this case with using words like “kid”. The pictures of him everyone is posting is probably a bit to old. Lets all find pictures of him when he was 5 and start posting them. This would be more sided with you and your lackey’s description of him. Maybe George wouldn’t have gotten the crap beat out of him if Trayvon was really a “kid”.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:07pmHere are my two favorite videos that change the public’s perception
Both are about 3 minutes long:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewUP-Fdhqk
jlcook
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:10pm@JROOK , You are a moron, you must still be reading the first NBC report, Z made a slight mistake in following but retreated, Trayvon brutally attacked him. If someone were following me that I didn’t know, I would try to flee the area, but TM didn’t he confronted and attacked him. I would of shot him too. It is sad that a teenager had to die, for him and his parents I feel for them.
Report Post »The reason Z was released was because the police did there investigation, and found no fault. The only reason he was arrested later is because of the lame stream media spinning this in circles. I contend they charged him with second degree murder cause they’ll never get it, they may have gotten involuntary man slaughter, but not second degree. Now this should give all you libs, and the radical black community a reason to have some riots and burn down your neighborhoods, but the justice from what I can see from here, will be served the right way, except the fact that there never should have been a trial, the police did their investigation case closed, dumbass.
mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:10pm@ Clive…
Report Post »Using your logic a woman who willing enters a man’s house can not claim self defense if she shoots him when he tries to rape her. Your knowlege of law is flawed. George did not commit a crime when he followed Trayvon. It is not a crime to be stupid. If Trayvon attacked him, George can claim self defense regardless of what transpired prior to the attack, unless George initiated PHYSICAL contact with Trayvon.
IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:12pm@ Ranger – “It is not a crime to watch your neighborhood. If Treyvon is the attacker, and jumped on Zimmerman and beat his head into the curb, then Zimmerman had the right to self defense.”
This is exactly right. If the kid was slamming his head off the ground, is he not NOW using the ground as a deadly weapon? This talk about an unarmed kid will not hold up. Deadly force was met with deadly force in this incident.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:15pm@ Clive
Now the only way you could make the argument that George was the agressor is if you could show that he was brandishing the gun towards Trayvon. Which I can guarantee did not happen. How can I guarantee that…Do you know anyone who is not high or crazy who would charge and assult someone who is pointing a gun at them?
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:15pmEveryone keeps forgetting one MAJOR THING. TRAYVON DID NOT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE HE WAS SHOT. NONE OF TRAYVONS FAMILY MEMBERS LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE TRAYVON WAS SHOT. THE COMMUNITY IS GATED. MEANING IF YOU DONT LIVE THERE DONT BE THERE OR YOU ARE TRESSPASSING. Trayvon was trespassing. He didnt belong there for ANY reason and he knew it. Zimmerman was doing his job as given him by his community leaders. NUFF SAID
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:18pmTrayvon was breaking the law. HE WAS TRESPASSING IN A GATED COMMUNITY WHERE NEITHER HE NOR HIS FAMILY LIVED. .
Report Post »Marci
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:56pmAgreed Patriot. Though we don’t fully know the details—the actions leading up to the mob mentality against him smacks of political agenda only, and I hope that if he is innocent, he doesn’t end up being sacrificed for a political game.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:02pmExample of term “white flight” – “The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead” LOL ! But what about the beauty of diversity ?
People thing they can just keep running away from the plague, I know since my family and I did the white flight from NYC back to upstate NY, then 30 years later I did the white flight from Tacoma to Seattle to a very nice lily white town called Blaine WA, yes my friends I found one of the few white sanctuaries left in America, just like in the good old days you can leave your front door unlocked, you can walk the streets at night, and the best is ZERO DIVERSITY ! ! !
Report Post »Shockwave222
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:24pmAgreed!
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:24pmJRook, would it be more acceptable to you if the “kid” cracked Zimmerman’s skull and killed him?
Report Post »Gizzy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:29pmPATTY HENRY’, Quit using your imagination to paint your own conclusions of this case and let the truth come out in court if it has to go that far! You’re doing the same thing you just accused Jessy Jackass and Al (caught in the act) Sharpton of doing. You seem to forget that there was a witness that saw them brawling on the ground!
Report Post »Doris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:43pmIf he followed regardless of his reason(guy would get away is a good thing) then its his fault he got beaten.I have not heard that Trayvon had a violent record.My opinion is George followed and caught up, they scuffled and thats what the witnesses saw and then Trayvon was shot. I dont think Geo,. planned it that way but if he had not followed after being told not to he is guilty of something,because it wouldnt have happened if he hadnt been there.I dont think neighborhood watch people are supposed to follow bad guys.
Report Post »Evantoo
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:44pmNothing unusual about your comment. Anyone who listens to or watches the lame-stream media, which is just about ALL of it, knows that they don’t actually report the news. Instead they fashion events as they believe they should be so that they maximize they’re audience (little do THEY know- they‘ve lost they’re “audience’ in droves), while at the same time pandering to the audience they want to attract.
Report Post »Should this become much more of an issue, it’s likely to insure that the Watts and Detroit riots are a minor public disturbance in comparison. With race-baiting panderers like Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama stirring the pot, it’s more than likely.
Despite the threats from the above and the NAACP, New Black Panthers and their ilk, one can only hope the citizens involved stay true to the law.
It won’t make any difference to those previously mentioned, but it will to law-abiding citizens when the shooting possibly starts. It will then that the Castle Doctrine will be sorely tested. And by a lot of people.
Doris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:56pmI want to get this said. George was told not to follow. He followed. Trayvon died.. I lived in CA and we had signs in our windows that we had neighborhood watch program. People watched their homes and neighbors homes all up and down the street,No one went out and followed people walking around the area. Thats just stupid. Any not armed security guard knows you dont follow or chase. you watch and report. Neighborhood watch does not say follow people on your block just watch and report if something goes down.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:03pmIf Zimmerman is found to be not guilty, can he sue Big Al and his sidekick Jessie J? It would also be nice if he could sue some of the MSM for their participation in his trial in the court of public opinion.
Report Post »Goodforall
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:16pmIf anyone has seen the true facts about Trayvon they know he was a wanna be gangsta thug and was in trouble off and on for some time. The media and black race baiters tried to frame Zimmerman and totally misrepresented his character. Now we have blacks beating up whites in the name of “justice for Trayvon”. Obama opened his trap and made matters much worse (just as he did when he was critical of the Cambridge Police Dept.). Sad thing is that if Zimmerman was black this would have been a non event. We have a judicial system-let it work the way it is supposed to.
Report Post »MemphisViking
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:06pm@ Patty Henry – If Martin had gone home when he knew he was being followed none of this would have happened.
@ JRook – How do you know police failed to investigate this? What do you think they were doing when they took him to the police station? You also have no proof that Zimmerman initiated the conflict. You also say he was not doing anything suspicious, but you weren’t there, so how would you know? Zimmerman said he was walking through yards and looking in windows. Basically, you’re doing what the media has been doing all along. Forming unfounded opinions about this case and presenting them as fact.
@ Vote – At no point did he disregard police instructions. First of all, there were no instructions. He was told “we don’t need you to do that”, NOT “don’t do that”. Second, a 911 dispatcher is not the police. Third, if that’s all the evidence you need, I hope I’m never in court with you on the jury.
@ Sophie – You’re right. They could discover video that shows Martin attacking Zimmerman with a crowbar, yelling that he was going to kill him, stopping to call his friends to brag about it, then getting shot, and a lot of people would STILL think Zimmerman was guilty.
Report Post »MemphisViking
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:07pm@ Clive – Wrong. He didn’t chase anyone, he followed. The prosecution can say anything they want, and will, but that doesn’t make them right. The aggressor was the one who turned it into a physical altercation.
@ Doris – If you haven’t heard that Martin had a violent record, you haven’t been paying attention, or you’ve only been paying attention to the national media. And again, following someone is not illegal.
Report Post »Maji
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:19pmThe best we can hope for is when he gets acquitted is that
Report Post »someone can nit pick the case and get this (fake) prosecutor fired!
Bluefish49
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:42pmI am a right wing conservative and have just about stopped watching any news programing including Fox….none of it can be trusted.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:06pm@ DORIS – Where do you gather your information from?
First quote from DORIS, “My opinion is George followed and caught up, they scuffled and thats what the witnesses saw and then Trayvon was shot.” in your first post up top. This is your opinion and your entitled to it.
Second quote from DORIS, “I want to get this said. George was told not to follow. He followed. Trayvon died..”
It seems that you have some FACTS thats we dont have. you make me SICK. You have blatently made up your own facts to make your story more beleievable. Where is the Proof that GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FOLLOWED MARTIN??????????????
DORIS ill help you out here. The lead INVESTIGATOR was asked the same question. Here is the report from Burlingtonfreepress.com of the incident. “Investigator Dale Gilbreath testified that he does not know whether Martin or Zimmerman threw the first punch and that there is no evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s contention he was walking back to his vehicle when confronted by Martin. The affidavit says “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.”
WOW…….DORIS did you write the Affidavit? because the affitdavit claims the same thing you do above but the FACTS say there is NO evidence to say that Zimmermans report of him walking back to his car was untruthful. NONE. NADA. ZEILCH. ZERO.
LIBERAL LIERS
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:13pmDORIS do you see that you are the problem? How can there be a fair trial with people like you out there? Truth has no aganda…….well yours does.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:15pmThe 2nd to the last sentence, “This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed”, is pure speculation. The police audio recordings indicate he went back to meet police officers at another location (the mailboxes I think). Just like Reuters to set someone up as good and then cut him down at the knees.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:20pm@MEMPHISVIKING
You can nitpick over the technicalities, all I was doing was quoting the article.
The 911 dispatcher speaks for the police. While you do not have to do anything the dispatcher says (in the same way you don‘t have to do anything a police officer says if you’re not under arrest), it is highly advised you take their advice.
He’s not guilty for pursuing Martin or even approaching Martin. That isn’t a crime, but it is evidence; it is evidence of Zimmerman’s intent to cause confrontation. And if Zimmerman is the one starting the confrontation, then he can’t rightly claim self-defense now can he?
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:30pmThis is from another blog on theblaze. Alan Dershowitz on Meg Kelly:
“This affidavit,” he said, “submitted by the prosecutor in the Florida case is a crime. It’s a crime. If she in fact knew about ABC News’ pictures of the bloody head of Zimmerman and failed to include that in the affidavit, this affidavit is not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”[...]
“The prosecution’s goal, Dershowitz explained, is to present all the details and evidence of the case in order to pursue justice, not merely to seek justice solely for one side of the case. And “you don’t indite based on false information,”.
This with the initial questioning comming from Zimmermans council has proven that this man WILL NOT get a fair trial.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:34pmVOTEBUSH12 – do you read? Where is the evidence? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT HE CONFRONTED MARTIN? If the LEAD investigator doesnt have it, how do you?
Report Post »maryflaur
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:39pmI can’t help but wonder what will happen if or when he is found innocent. And I wonder why his lawyer hasn’t yet asked for a change of venue? I don’t think he will get a fair trial in that area.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:47pmVOTEBUSHIN12
Report Post »Last sentence sums it up
“This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.”
That’s all the evidence I need (and don’t let the facts get in your the way)
Wrong …….he didn’t disregarded police instructions. It was a 911 operator. Do you work for MSLSD?
IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:04pm@ PATTY HENERY – You are marvelous.
YOU WROTE, “IF I had to guess, I’d say that Zimmerman
continued to follow fearing the kid would get away and he called out to the kid something like “I’m going to get you” and the kid charged him, not thinking he was armed and Zimmerman shot him. Then ‘hurt his head”… or the kid realized he was being followed, hid behind a bush and jumped Zimmerman.”
Quite a story there.
THEN you wrote, “THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE on all sides go too far and instead of seeking solutions..”
Um… exactly ^^^^^^.
Do you see that you fabricated an entire story to try and convict someone of a murder? You fabricated quotes, actions and coverups to help your cause. This is a real case with real implications.
I thin Patty should be a journalist who agrees?
Report Post »bobbiejean
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:11pm@PatriotMama And if the libs are proved wrong, will there be apologies to Zimmerman and his family
by any from the left—with Al Sharpton leading the way? Don’t hold your breath.
Report Post »merrywidow
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:12pmif that young man is found not guilty the riots of so central la will look like a sunday school outing. th riots wont be confined to so florida, they will be all across this country. sad to say but since the election of bam-bam and the appointment of eric holder that class of black trasc has been embolden and think no one will do anything about their lawlessness. sadly, that seems to b true. the new pink pantie party, the attacks on whites all over thee country. i bought my sons guns and a trying to learn how to use mine. the only buildings left standing in so central la were owned by koreans who were on their roofs with guns
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:20am@REPUBLICORP
Listen you illiterate! I was QUOTING THE ARTICLE, try reading it sometime before jumping on my back about the “facts”.
“Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.”
Jesus H Christ, Lord, and Mother Mary, you people are dense. Sometimes I can put up with your droolingly stupid comments and other times – like right now – I seriously question the state of the gene pool. For the sake of all that is holy please promise you will never have children.
I don’t care if it was a cop, his mother, or President Obama telling him not to follow. He was encouraged not to, and he did it ANYWAY. He said, “hell, I have a gun – what am I afraid of?” He put himself into the confrontation and deserves every second in jail he gets.
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:45amWe all live a dangerous moment. With a Leftist President who encourage racist demonstrations, and commies and racist activist calling for revolution hijacking the Justice and our entire system, we can not keep silent. This will stay as a shameful moment in American history. We need to stay strong behind our Constitution.
Report Post »kellyflorida
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:03amCan we PLEASE STOP showing pics of this thug when he was 12? PULEEEZE, he was 17 and over 6 feet tall, not some black 12 year old innocent cute little boy. Zimmerman is an upstanding hispanic, please portray the pictures properly of both men of their current age. THE MEDIA MAKES ME SICK!!!
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:11amSadly, the black community and left wingers do not care if Zimmerman is vindicated. They want a lynching, and have sentenced him to death.
Report Post »toxicjonny
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 6:50amI hate to say “I told you so”, but when everyone jumped on the bandwagon ASSUMING he was guilty, i had my doubts. The MEDIA, showing Zimmerman’s mugshot alongside an “innocent” 14 y/o (Trayvon was 17) just reinforced the hysteria. It‘s the Media’s fault Zimmerman was ASSUMED guilty before trial. Let the Judicial System & “due process” run it’s course. Let the FACTS determine whether Zimmerman is guilty or not.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:35amThe District Attourney shall be booted out next election for giving in to a Lynch Mob. This is what happened in the old days – a hot head would stir up some more hot heads and then the whole town. Obama will be hurt by this action. The latino vote (formable group) will remember this come November. I know Zimmerman is only half Latino but Obama is only half black. Half is very popular or Herman Cain would be in the running still. The Democratic Party thinks they can control a halfbreed but not a full blood.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:01am1)Zimmerman should have listened to the 911 dispatcher 2) Martin was in wrong place at wrong time 3) Martin was in fight or flight mode (what would you do if someone was following you in the dark and you couldn’t get away? 4) Unless you’re a cop why are you carrying a gun while following a possible bad guy after being told not to by the same people you called to come help you? 5) Tragic
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:01pm@JHAYDENG
Amen
Report Post »blair152
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:09pmZimmerman’s being hunted like a rabid dog. The NBPP idjits put a $1,000,000 bounty on his head and one of its members said he wasn’t an American citizen.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:37pmI guess it doesn’t matter that a young man is DEAD for no other reason than he was trying to defend himself against a person who was stalking and pursuing him. And for no other reason than he “looked suspicious.” PLEASE tell me what is suspicious looking about eating skittles or drinking iced tea? The truth is that no matter the race of the person who killed Trayvon Martin, it is clearly apparent that the only thing that is important to you people is Zimmerman’s repuation rather than ANOTHER PERSON IS DEAD!!! How do you defend and justify this in any case?
You have now turned George Zimmerman into a community caring choirboy being railroaded by the system, and you already have him aquitted of the crime. Sadly I suspect he WILL be aquitted, but not based on the facts of the case, but based on people like you…people who don’t care about facts, but care about race, as you all seem to espouse everytime this issue appears on this site. Trayvon is the guilty party simply because he was in a neighborhood he was not welcome in. And that alone is what got him killed.
I just wish one of you had the guts to step up and tell the truth and admit that is what this is all about.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:46pmYou know what sickens me the most? The fact that there are people on this site who proclaim George Zimmerman as a hero. Case in point:
“@TeamArcheson: Zimmerman is a hero. Blacks and the US Government are still going to lynch him and violate his hanging body, but we will stand, watch, cower and salute this hero. No one in Zimmerman’s neighborhood or my neighborhood want to help patrol the streets. No one helped Zimmerman before or after his beating by Martin.”
So now we idolize and make heroes out of people who initiate confrontation which escalates to violence, then kill a person because they are losing the very confrontation they started? That makes one a hero? What a very cowardly thing to say.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:20pm@ GTLOGIC – Whos not going by the facts of the case? If you look at the facts of the case then you would come to understanding that there will be an aquittle.
GT you make the case that Travon Martin (TM) was defending himself against a stalker. So the case for self defense for TM is what? Did Zimmerman chase him down and attack him? I think you need to state the facts as you know them to support your claims. Just by the fact that you believe he will be aquitted makes me think your straight emoitionally driven in this case and refuse to look objectivly at facts.
Your charge, “that the only thing that is important to you people is Zimmerman’s repuation rather than ANOTHER PERSON IS DEAD!!!”
This is not the case with the vast majority here. People here are tired of libs looking at this case emotionally rather than with just the facts. Fact of the matter is that its the justice system and the American people ability to abide by it that is one of the things that makes this country great. Trial in the media is not the American justice system.
We are not worried about Zimmermans reputaion, we are worried about a MAN getting a fair trial. You, Me, and any other US citizen. If its found that Zimmerman acted lawfully, which it looks like he did then Set him free. If there is some kind of EVIDENCE that states he did not. LOCK him up.
You sir have no evidence to support your claim of zimmerman stalking and confronting TM.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:30pmGTLOGIC – I want you to read this and explain it to me. This is from the BAIL hearing for zimmerman. His Attorney questioned the LEAD INVESTIGATOR on the case on a few things.
“Investigator Dale Gilbreath testified that he does not know whether Martin or Zimmerman threw the first punch and that there is no evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s contention he was walking back to his vehicle when confronted by Martin. The affidavit says “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.”
So Gilbreath’s Affitdavit states Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued. Yet Gilbreath was asked if he had any evidence to support that claim and he did not. Zimmermans report of the incident was that TM confronted him as he was walking back to his car. Gilbreath was asked if he had any evidence to disprove his statement and he did not.
There are some facts. An Affitdavit is to include all FACTS about an incident and leave out NONE. IMPARTIAL and TOTAL.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:56pm@IntegrityFirst08, you’re doing the very thing that you accuse me of doing. You are presuming facts not in evidence. First of all, you presume that I am an emotional lib. I am actually a staunch conservative. And being an African American, I am not an Obama supporter, nor am I a fan of Al Sharpton, et al.
Second, you presume that the statement given at the bail hearing is equivalent to a trial. A statement made at a bail hearing bears no evidentiary weight other than to determien bail.
Third, let’s look at what we do know as a fact. We do know that GZ saw TM in a neighborhood that GZ presumed TM did not belong, nobody disputes that fact. We do know that GZ contacted police indicated that he was following TM. We know that the 911 operator advised GZ NOT to follow TM. And while nobody will ever know who threw the first punch, that in and of itself is not evidence of innocence on GM’s part. You raise the statement that the investigator cannot prove beyond doubt that GZ was walking back to his car, but you seem to completely dispute TM’s girlfriend, who was on the phone with TM up to the point of the actual altercation, and based on both her statement, and eyewitness testimony, GZ was the aggressor in the encounter. So, should we just act as if the girlfriend does not exist?
You cannot instigate a confrontation and then claim self-defense. TM clearly presumed he was in danger and reacted, as would you if you were in the same position, at least I presume
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:23pmAnd the special prosecutor knows all of this….and deliberately charged him with 2nd degree murder which will in no way succeed. So the restless natives will get all gooned up when the not guilty verdict is read. It’s actually the only way this can come down and also keep some sort of relative peace in the area while the this charade of a trial finally occurs and is completed. Nearing verdict time….the state, local, and county police as well as every national guard member will saturate the area as they now have the ability to plan well ahead in order to keep the natives from insurrection….the whole thing is going to be one expensive exercise in social dysfunction….i just wish all the black panthers and all the Al Sharptons and all the guilt ridden news media was just one tenth as up in arms about the poor black kids and young black people that are gunned down or stabbed to death every night in this country by other black kids and other young black people. Its been said millions of times but selective moral outrage is one of the worst forms of delusion a human being can suffer from. Just watch the First 48 on A&E or Beyond Scared Straight…..pick an episode any episode…and then tell me and others where the problem really is. Should that black kid be dead? NO. But had he been grounded for being suspended at school and home doing his homework instead of going to “babys daddy fiance’s” home to watch the NBA all star game he would STILL be alive.
Report Post »MissWalker
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 8:07pmI may be missing the buck here but I dont understand why ahy of these points would HELP Zimmerman’s case. Everything stated here adds fuel to the notion that Zimmerman was already prooked , to apprehend and young black male..or anyone whom he deemed uspicious enough because he felt that the police department wouldlet thm go., before he even confnted Tayvon. The fact stands, Zimmerman had a preconcieved judgement about an innocent minor and because of HIS actions, that young man is dead. I dont care how many burglaries happened in his neighborhood, Martin was not responsible for those robberies but he paid the price for them. And just incase some of you have forgotten, the sentence for B&E is not punishable by death in the United States of America.
Report Post »Destro
Posted on May 20, 2012 at 9:25pmGive Zimmerman a full pardon. Then put the National Guard in the streets, with orders to shooter anybody whom tries to start a riot. Problem solved.
Report Post »mcmeador
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:06amYeah, except Zimmerman did not disobey police instructions. No one gave him any instructions. A dispatcher with no legal authority simply told him, “We don’t need you to do that,” when Zimmerman confirmed that he was following Trayvon. And you know what Zimmerman responded? “OK,” followed by an obvious slowing in his breathing and a minute or more of calm, steady-voiced conversation with the dispatcher, during which he made comments indicating that Trayvon had run away and that he didn’t know where he was.
I’m so tired of the media and others repeating absolutely false claims about the events of that night.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:10am.
Report Post »The Africans wanted George to be a White Guy so Bad. So what Ya’ll gonna do now? I mean this has now become a Black on Black Crime, because of the 1/10th Rule………..
normbal
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:22amOne more time.
This was a police operator. NOT a sworn police officer giving the man a lawful order. It was a suggestion.
He DID, finally, stop following the kid, who obviously came back to do grievous bodily harm to Mr. Zimmerman who responded appropriately.
Mr Zimmerman responded fully within his rights, being where he was legally, and defended himself within the letter of the law known as “Stand Your Ground.”
Guns Save Life.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:28amWell ,he’s still a white, hispanic, Jew, who was out hunting twelve year old black kids for the fun of it….. I get my news from CNN…….
Independent4233
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:49amThe watchman was appointed by his neighbors as a neighborhood watchman, whose job it was to observe and report suspicious activity to the police.
How on earth can people keep criticizing this man for monitoring the black perp’s activity, after all he was first reported as moving about suspiciously at the club house?
How can a watchman do his job unless he observes the activities at a distance of a suspicious person? A watchman’s job is to watch. If it requires moving around or following at a distance so be it.
He can’t determine what someone is up to unless he keeps them in sight. Because that might enrage a perp to the point he attacks and beats the observer should not give rise to the question as to whether the watchman should follow, but should the perp have attacked, because he was enraged about being observed?
He would be alive today if he had not jumped the watchman. The lesson here for young black criminals is if you don’t want to get shot, don’t attack anyone. It’s as simple as that.
Report Post »BreeZee
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:54amLike most ppl on this thread I too am sick of the left progressive propaganda media machine.
Report Post »DISCLAIMER: I am not PC
I am sick and tired of these race baiters like Al, Jesse, the CBC and the NAACP. I am sick and tired of some these blacks playing this “I’m a victim and your racist” card.
Until we drop this “ANYTHING” hyphen American (like African- American) and ALL become just AMERICANS racism will never be conquered.
These race labels in nature SEPARATE the races not join the races,,,,, think about it.
poorrichard09
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:56amI wonder if Zimm did stop following Martin and while he was returning to his truck Martin jumped him. Also, Martin could have used that can or bottle of AZ iced tea as a weapon to hit Zimm with.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:05amI know! All this flys in the face of the over zealous narrative designed to whip up a fenzy of hate by tapping into the most primal nerve of all…race and race relations. This country is not the country I grew up in where everyone gets a fair shake and everyone made sure they were giving a fair hand up to those in need.
The judge in this case is a activist for race and said her mission was to get justice for Trayvon. No your charge is to get justice period. He’s screwed with this judge. The jury? Who knows. They intentionally left of the affidavit the fact his head was injured. I hope she gets investigated for that as Allen Dershowitz pointed out.
Report Post »Yosoff
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:08amExactly. All of the evidence points to Zimmerman being the victim and Trayvon being the attacker.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:19amHmmmm, I find this interesting. So on a regular basis, there were black folks, actually breaking into houses in his area.
His neighbor was actually hiding in the closet while two black males were in her house stealing stuff.
Every time cops were called, they were to late to actually catch the criminals. I guess we should be glad that it was burglary they were committing, and not rape or murder.
How comes the left wing media never brought up any of these facts?
You can bet you bottom dollar, if Zimmerman is aquitted or found not guilty, the animals in the zoo in every mjor city are going to rise up and destroy, rape, kill, and beat people, and those that gave marching orders (Obamma, Jessie, Al, the Black Panthers….) will have blood on their hands.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:21am@Detroit paperboy, at least you don’t get your news from Jon Stewart, although CNN isn’t much of a step above….. :)
Report Post »666Sucks
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:46amI’m with you MCMEADOR, there are not enough Zimmerman’s in this world, and way to many Trevans of all colors! Anarchy comes when the people are no longer protected by the protectors. I‘m afraid we ain’t seen nothin yet!
Report Post »mils
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:55amThe florida prosecutor wants “justice for travon”…not justice for George..or the whole situation.just Travon.. I agree with Alan Dershowitz
Report Post »I have no doubt florida will burn, there will be riots with blacks, and the obligatory looting from them..
George should go free.
I believe ‘twwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaana” man is at the center of all this and florida needs to help george.
We need to change the current administration in Washington..it is one of the only ways to defuse some of the BS going on in this country with OWS, Sharpton, Black Panthers etc…
George could be my neighbor any day.
John_The_Beloved
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:49amHere is the dispatch tape :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAfrCkJIqx0&feature=share%27%2C%29
I just listen to it once this trail ia over. Zimmerman has a case to sue news outlets for slander. News has been really big on withholding information of news events from public. Look at all Christians that get murdered and never reported.
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:23pmmcmeador
Has ANYONE ANYWHERE told you that Trayvon was TRESPASSING. No they havent but he was. I live right around the corner from where this occured. If the community is gated and you or your family dont live there DONT BE THERE BECAUSE YOU ARE TRESPASSING. People pay more money to live in gated communities. HOW DID TRAYVON GET IN????????? did someone give him permission to be there??? NO. Trayvon was trespassing and Zimmerman was doing the job his community leaders entrusted him with.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:25pm@Detroit paperboy
Report Post »You’re a bad, bad paperboy…. : )
(end sarcasm)
RepubliCorp
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:55pm(except Zimmerman did not disobey police instructions.) It was 911 operator, he wasn’t talking directly to the police
Report Post »LieutA
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:58amAgreed, so much false information, false narrative, faulty logic, supposition, out-right fairy tales of the incident have been proposed and disseminated on this and every other blog that it is no wonder there is so much anger. I don’t know what happened but I have the luxury of my experiences and imagination to support either of the two opposing worst case scenarios. My problem is I no longer trust the legal system that gave us the Duke Case (prosecution for political career) and the OJ case (aquittal for political expedience). Will we ever get the truth presented? Is this whole case a tool to advance either ideology. Where can one go to debunk the BS and concentrate on the evidence (will we ever actually see or hear of it). There are many witnesses – we have heard so little of what they had seen. Are they now in hiding or under duress afraid to buck a narrative lest they be targeted? Are they the bombshell accounts that prove malfeasance on the part of Law Enforcers? This case is tainted and almost impossible to be fairly judged – but even if Justice prevails, there is a large chance (regardless of outcome) of widespread riots because Justice was never what was sought, retribution and vengeance was. Blood for blood – regardless of cause or justification.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 6:00pmI’m not sure what city you all live in, but in my city, a Police Dispatcher is in fact a law enforement official, and any direction they give you is considered the same as an order from a street beat officer. Check your local law enforcement codes.
Second, you all seem to always talk about libs bringing up facts not in evidence. The only evidence you have that Zimmerman was allegedly walking back to his car is from Zimmerman himself. And I’m SURE, having just killed a man, that he is going to be truthful and honest in that respect, right?
Report Post »WilkowonGBTV
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:06amI don’t like how everyone always says he disregarded police instructions and followed. How do we know he still followed. Maybe Martin had noticed him already and started following Zimmerman.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:09amWhen the police told him not to follow, he said “Okay”. He didn’t say “I’ll do what I want“ or ”you’re not the boss of me”, he said “okay”.
He claims he was jumped on the way back to his vehicle, was punched in the face, knocked to the ground, and had his head bounced off the cement. Wounds and blood support his story.
More and more it looks like this is just another invented race bait story.
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:27amOf course it is, Chris…this entire case is a set-up. Sharpton and Jackson are using Martin’s family to spread political race warfare propoganda. They’re STILL calling Zimmerman white.
I pity the Martin family. They are being used in the most merciless way by race baiters for political fuel for Obama’s campaign.
Like others here, I want to see a similar timeline for Trayvon…I’ve heard he was expelled for drug violations…true, or rumor?
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:33am“This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.”
Yep, I agree where is this a “fact?” He said he would comply and it appears he had done so. In fact, he states that he no longer has visual contact with Martin.
I believe Zimmerman will be acquitted, if he is ever brought to trial at all. If that is the case, when you use such force that you put someone in mortal danger and he believes he will be killed and you get killed instead…well, that’s justice.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:48pmI agree. The early lies by the media tend to persist.
Report Post »llotus
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:57pmwilkowongbtv…….it was a 911 dispatcher I think and Zimmerman said ok he would stop. he said he lost sight of him and was heading for an area where he could meet up with police. There is an uncut version of the 911 call worth listening to. Lotus.
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 2:37pmGod, what idiots! you people saying he was told not to follow can’t friggin read! 911 said,”You don’t need to do that.” That’s not an imperative, it’s a declarative. It was statement not a command!
Report Post »djay110
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:05amDon‘t you see what’s happening here ? The whole thing is a set up I personally don’t see a election happening this November I believe their will be a emergency that was created by and used by our pretender and chief to enact marital law their for suspending the constitution and elections. I pray I‘m wrong but look at it remember when they said Don’t let any emergency go to waste ? Well if they don’t have one they will create one and I think they already have it all laid out with occupy protesters , the Black Panthers , good old Al and the rest of it. Its a set up people and were are the patsy’s.
Report Post »YANKEESLAYER
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:13amThen maybe we should use this opportunity to take our country back from these liberal pieces of sheet.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:18amAfter watching the bond hearing and hearing how the officer who wrote up the indictement basically fabricated the charges I felt the same thing. This will be carefully times and staged such that the trail will end with Z being released the Friday before the elections so the cities can burn all weeekend. The election being on Tuesday will be indefinately postposed until all polling places are determined to be safe enough for people to go vote. Which could take a long time…
Sound crazy? Well most of you would had thought it crazy that the US government would be selling weapons to Mexican drug gangs to blame the Second Amendment and look what we got…
Gonna be a rocky road ahead
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:25am@DJAY110.
Report Post »You are spot on,but,there is something that odumbo doesnt realize,or has not been told about,and that is the increased gun and ammo sales.He can try his marshall law,blacks can try their race war,owsers can try their violence,and when it all starts,its going to be gun toating, flag hugging constitution loving rednecks like me, that put an end to it.The agitators on the left need to remember one thing, in war, its always the leaders that the armys go after and try to kill, first…..
RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:03amI would really like to see a similar Time Line like this put together for Martin’s recent past. This is an interesting although sparse recent history of Zimmerman. I’ll still wait for the final findings of the investigation, but will admit this puts George in something of a better light.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:01amDon’t hold your breath. The majority of the media out there is still trying to represent him as a 12 y/o boy who loved Skittles.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:25pmI just sent a link to this story to Rick Scott … Florida Governor … it is the state of Florida who is railroading Zimmerman .. due to threats from racists .. and it is not going to stop any of them from rioting …
You can let his office what you think at the following link .. you can use county as “Charlotte” and zip as “33951”
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:36pmGONZO, I hear you brother. I should have added that my statement is more or less tongue in cheek.
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:50pmYes only a little information has been brought forth about Trayvon’s reason for being out strolling in this big old world and not in school….Uh! Marijuana, or traces of that drug, in his back pack getting that youngster an expulsion from school. Enquiring minds would like a little more information about our innocent Trayvon. Oh! Thats right… as a minor it is AOK to protect his dirt from being drug out into the full light of the truth. How about we send in the news reporters to talk to all his peers and teachers???
Report Post »DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:39pm@gonzo
Report Post »I wouldn’t go next door in the middle of the night for stupid skittles. & if I’m walking home I would be on the sidewalk walking with purpose, not sneaking around behind community bldgs. The original story we were fed by MSM does not make sense.
vaman
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:01amAs more of the evidence comes out, Zimmerman is less and less a cold hearted murderer as portrayed by the media. He defended himself and his neighbors from a would be criminal. Gold teeth, hoodie and all.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:56amMr. Zimmerman is a VERY dangerous man!! He bettered himself, his family and his community. He must be made an exemple of. One must stay on the plantation and keep their mouths shout if not praising their Leaders. S.Y.G.
Report Post »thinkingright
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:00amEvidence not there to convict. self defense. I’m not waiting for police to defend myself, family, property, friends, country.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:06amI’m with you there. It’s not racist to defend yourself and your neighborhood against criminals.
Report Post »huntinwabbits
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:41amIn the words of Phil Robertson, “Around here..I AM 911.”
Report Post »Pacapapa
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:44amRemember, when seconds count; the police are only minutes away.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:57amToo many people are so quick to judge before having ALL the facts. That’s why this case should go to trial already and let a jury hear all sides and make the final decision. Of course there will ALWAYS be people outside the courts who think they know it all, know better–even WANT a certain outcome to be true. Sad but true that most Americans don’t seem to care about the truth or have the patience it takes to sometimes discover it.
Report Post »Amma K
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:24amI just hope that the jury pool isn’t tainted by all the misinformation. I’m not sure at this point if he can get a fair trial, not to mention the pressure the chosen jury will be under from the outside agitators. I personally would be afraid to be on that jury!!!!!
Report Post »ViewPointtt
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:34pmMost people are not too quick to judge. Most people do the best they can with what they have to work with. When we had only an artificially-generated perception of a sweet-smiling 12 year old boy and an equally truth-distorting pic of a malevolent Zimmerman to work with, we wanted justice for Martin. I’m certain that I am far from the only non-black that was initially outraged and wanted the so-called racist villain Zimmerman held accountable. This is why, although I cannot easily bear seeing, hearing obam, I completely understand and dismiss his, ”If I had a son he would look like Martin,” remark… because at that point of Martin’s life, before he was so profoundly corrupted by gangsta culture, he was like every other child; innocent and endearing. Now, the truth has rightfully and inevitably surfaced. Truth matters to most people… and the truth must be good enough… it must be worthy of a place on the table of truth and open discussion… it must be good enough, even for the least objective, to hear, consider, and eventually embrace.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:57amYou had to know there was more to the story than the MSM was giving us. They made Trayvon seem like an innocent little kid, and Zimmerman to be a white racist ex-con, bad thing about all this is the blacks that are already riled up won’t even take into consideration the FACTS that have come out now, they got everything that they needed from the first reports and nothing else makes any difference. Do you think that we will hear Sharpie, or JJ or the big O for that matter say that maybe they were a bit hasty to convict Zimmerman before his day in court? Not no but hell no you won’t once again they got the reaction that they desired and they depend on their followers to be blind and ignorant even if they are told a different story.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:10amPhil, you racist!
How DARE you expect people to wait for a trial in stead of believing everything the Reverands Al and Jesse have to say!
Report Post »cryinginthedesert
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:50amYoung black men are being killed everyday in this country. What made this case special is this was all orchestrated to prove they (the Sharptons, Jacksons, and MSNBC’s) can still whip people into a frenzy. They are getting geared up for the elections. They needed a test run to see just how much people would blindly follow the media and they had a pretty successful test. Next will be the OWS summer protests to take attention from what’s really going on in the white house. It’s a smoke and mirror, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, act; and people are buying into it.
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:56amAnd who was the first to condemn Zimmerman with no evidence other then that which appeared on TV? President Obama who only saw what was in the news and condemed Zimmerman for all the world to see and has not said a word of apology for that attack! Obama, when are you going to apologize to George Zimmerman for your RUSH TO JUDGEMENT WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE ALL THE FACTS?
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:02amAlot thought Zimmerman was guilty before the facts started coming out. I have always stood by the police department in this case, if Zimmerman had been some kind of kook he would of been arrested day one. I hope he gets a fair trial, but politics will be playing a big part in this unfortunately and I am sure people have been threatened to make sure the outcome is less desirable for Zimmerman. Lets hope the jury is fair as they will have the final say.
Report Post »mjazzguitar
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:31amI remember the headlines when Nixon said Manson was guilty.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:20am@ MJazzGuitar
Got some news for you – Manson WAS guilty. The evidence seen at that time pointed to him being the ringleader of the perps. Nixon was vindicated.
Got some more news for you – Zimmerman MAY NOT BE guilty. So far all the evidence is pointing to him being jumped. Obama may yet be vindicated, but I am not holding my breath on it.
Big difference, amigo. Big difference.
Report Post »Tightroper2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:56amOnce these unthinking, easily-led black thugs see a possiblity for grand-looting on the horizon, they will be totally unpursuadeable. The possibility and probability of far-reaching looting is what they look for and any excuse will do — especially a convenient excuse like the thug (caught with women’s jewelery and a burglary tool) martin fiasco provides which has MSM support.
It can’t be stressed enough: The black end-game is massive looting nationwide and Martin is their excuse.
Think L.A –. and the London riot/looting of last year by blacks who had no “reason” to riot and loot then..
Report Post »Athinkerinaseaoflibs
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:53amEvery rational person of any race (including Martians) should simply abandon their home in that neighborhood now. If GZ is found innocent, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all the other poverty pimps will be in town to burn that neighborhood to the ground. If he is found guilty, no sentence will be acceptable to poverty pimps unless it includes draw and quartering, burning at the stake, and followed by dragging his charred charkas through the streets. Since that is NOT going to happen with a charge of 2nd degree murder, they will burn the neighborhood to the ground–either way their homes are ashes and they are out a home.
Report Post »YANKEESLAYER
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:07amMaybe all of the good people that support George should go down there and protect the innocent people of Sanford, as we all know our DOJ wont do it. That wouldn’t be pollitically correct because he actually used his God given right to self defense.When he is found innocent he should get a reward for ridding society of a criminal.
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:51amI have never thought he was guilty of killing Trayvon. It was an accident that probably happened during the scuffle when he was being attack by Trayvon. This incident escalated when the race-baiters, media included, started spewing their filthy words of hate.
Report Post »discus02
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:49amHe sounds like a fine young American who cares about his community.
Report Post »ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:49amThis offers a lot of information about Zimmerman. I’m not saying he was in the right but many blacks have made their image look criminal that it is hard to determine if this young kid will just be the average kid who follows the latest fads or will want to cause you trouble.
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:49ami think that 6.1 pothead attacked hit with the intent to kill him and he done the same exact thing i would of done , self defense is to preserve your life from a violent attack
Report Post »Texas_Hawkeye
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:48amWe are all George Zimmerman.
Report Post »laserblast92
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:37pmWhat this is going to turn in to is an attack by the left to disarm the citizens of the US and to strip us of our right to protect ourselves from criminals. They got caught running guns and lost that ability to use that for stricter gun laws. Now Zimmerman is the scapegoat/victim on this attack.
Report Post »YANKEESLAYER
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:48amI think this analogy should be put on the msm.It probably wont do much good because of the good reverend,but I think it is only fair to Zimmerman as I dont think he can get a fair shake no matter where he goes.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:44amGeorge is being railroaded and considering how our Border Patrol Agents are being treated with “off with their heads” mentalities……George is doomed!!!
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:44amI agree and have felt early on that this was the case the left was looking for to shout racism…..this is the Rodney King they were waiting for…too bad they didn’t do their homework, …and I have some faith that the American public won’t buy into the lies once the case is exposed in court.
Report Post »alcarfl
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:22amDropouts don’t do homework. Kno wha I sayin?
Report Post »teecool
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:33pmWho are THEY? This is the Rodney King they been waiting on. hummmm. This is know where near the Rodney king case. An unarmed child was shot and killed by an adult. This adult is in charge of the nieghborhood watch and has to use a gun to protect himself from a child WOW. Let justice be serve!!!
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on May 5, 2012 at 2:46pmTeeCool, oh yeah, a child – 6′2″ 170 lbs, oh such a little boy! The little gangsta was suspended from school for assaulting a bus driver!
Report Post »dsm
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:41amIf Zimmerman is found not guilty, I wonder if Beck will be man enough to apologize to Zimmerman for saying shortly after it happened that He(Glenn) thinks Zimmerman shot Trayvon in cold blood. Glenn made this comment on GBTV.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:55amWell, it was his opinion and many others held/hold the same one. I never felt we had all the facts (yet), but many did/do think they have this case all figured out. Too many people playing God.
Report Post »Megaphin
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:17amI’ve listened to Glenn for a couple of years. This is one story he completely had wrong when the story first broke. I was surprised by his rush to judgement of Zimmerman – i remember him saying on his radio show he believed Zimmerman was a racist.
Report Post »AlansTigg
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:32amI agree he should have withheld his opinion, but he did state that they had very little info and based on what little info he had it seemed to him Zimmerman was wrong, however he felt everyone needed to wait until more facts came out before making a judgement
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:49amGB sure did step in it that time.
Report Post »aorian
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:22amGlen Beck is terrified at the prospects of a race war… so much so, he is guilty of rushing to judgment, based on preliminary reports. He has since reversed his opinion on the matter. Giving Glen the benefit of the doubt, we all react to the information we have. I don’t want a race war either, but it isn’t up to me. If the black community wants an “eye for an eye” setup, then they must be prepared for the consequences… there is and has been far more black on white violence, so if we apply this fairly, then the thugs that beat up that white man for trying to keep those children from getting hurt that were playing in the street, should be hunted down and dealt with apporpriately. Before Trayvon, black on white crime was an issue, but it didn’t get reported, just like black on black crime doesn’t. If we kill or injure a black for each act of violence they commit against another race, eventually this will take care of itself, as there are far more whites and other races than there are blacks. A race war, will mean the deaths of thousands perhaps millions who really are not racist, and who’s only reason for dying will be due to their skin color. In a race war, you can’t afford to trust anyone of the opposite color, which is a recipe for large numbers of innocent folks on all sides, dying!
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:41amGlenn has already admitted his mistake in believing the initial reports. At least he was man enough to do so, unlike Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. You know those two will slink off with no apologies, just like they have done in the past. Freddy’s Fashion Mart? Tawana Brawley? The Duke Lacrosse team?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:39amLike Alan Dershowitz says, the prosecutor is committing a crime by charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder. Looks to me like the man should actually be getting a crime-fighting accolade from the city rather than prosecuted. The man was looking out for his family and neighbors who were, like so many people around this country, living every day of their lives under the criminal threat of young black criminals. Convicting Zimmerman sends these useless thugs a message: rob, steal, beat and kill – we’ve got your back. It’s reparations!
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:11amIt also sends a message to all neighborhood watch groups – cower in the corner and do not do anything to protect your property or homes. The police will get there to write up a report in due course.
Again setting the stage that Americans shoulf be scared and defenseless – the land of the cowards, and home of the slaves.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:14amIt is interesting that Zimmerman’s neighbors ASKED him to be the watch captain.
That puts him in a position of authority. Watching Martin was Zimemrman’s responsibility.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…” sounds like Neighborhood Watch to me.
Report Post »LieutA
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:21amPlays well into the ideology and religion of impotence. You have no power – you are a pawn, willow in the wind, subject to the whims of outside forces. To be an individual is to be powerless. Only in a group do you matter – especially if you are in the “right” group. I am so tired of our children being taught this crap. This has spawned the cowardly existence demonstrated by those posters that all agree “Everyone knows you never take action – you report!” Remember that when your wives and daughters are defiled, you sons are beaten and imasculated, your religion is outlawed.
Report Post »teecool
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:24pmEveryone needs to view both sides of the situation and quit being so close minded. If it were you child how would you feel. Wouldn’t you want justice or would you want everyone to make excuses for why your unarmed child was killed. We have to punish when punish is do and clearly this was no accident.
Report Post »I Fly Low
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:38amSounds like a good helpfull neighbor. America needs more like him.
Report Post »burke
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:36amHe will walk free as he should, Let the riots begin, & the Sharptons & Jacksons of the world will be the reason for them once again.
Report Post »YANKEESLAYER
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:51amExactaly,why hasn’t anyone put a bounty on those pimps heads
Report Post »gotoneon
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:33amWhen the sh/t does hit the fan,Al and Jessie Lee won’t be anywhere to be found.
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