Third Time’s the Charm? Ron Paul’s 2012 Campaign Continues to Pick Up Steam
- Posted on October 2, 2011 at 4:59pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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(AP) Ron Paul, antagonist of the Federal Reserve and advocate for the gold standard, is not a frontrunner to capture the Republican presidential nomination. But with his libertarian leanings energizing a small though growing group of passionate conservatives, the quirky Texas congressman is proving to be a force in the 2012 contest.
Four months before the initial voting, Paul is having such a big impact on the race that some Republican operatives are convinced that he will play spoiler in important states, siphoning votes and attention from his rivals for months to come and helping determine the nominee.
He’s empowered by unconventional but successful fundraising techniques, a more sophisticated campaign than his two previous attempts at the presidency, and a fiery message he‘s preached for decades but only now is resonating with Americans concerned about the nation’s debt.
In short, he could prove dangerous for the early front-runners, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
“I have no idea what exactly spoiler means,” Paul said recently while in New Hampshire. “If you’re a participant and you have an influence and you win or come close and you influence the debate, I think that’s pretty important. So I don’t put a negative term on that as spoiling anything. Spoiling their fun? Maybe they need a little spoiling.”
It’s unclear which rival the 76-year-old Texan stands to hurt the most.
Paul’s most devoted followers have been committed to him for years. But the “converts,” as the congressman calls them, seem to be growing with little regard for whether their support of Paul unintentionally helps another candidate.
Kate Baker is among the many die-hard Paul supporters in New Hampshire who shrug off the suggestion that their candidate may play spoiler. She holds out hope fir victory.
“Ron Paul is doing well enough he has the possibility to win, particularly in key states. This time I can taste success,” said Baker, the volunteer head of New Hampshire’s Women for Ron Paul Coalition. She also worked to help Paul get elected four years ago.
But for Baker and others, winning almost sounds less important than spreading Paul’s message of fiscal discipline and smaller government. That‘s a pitch he’s made for years and one that others suddenly have adopted, sometimes with more success.
“Look at how much the message is traveling right now. He’s honest and consistent. That’s the kind of person I can put my money and effort behind,” said Baker, a 37-year-old Manchester resident. “I vote for Ron Paul on principle.”
Others like her have helped Paul build a grass-roots fundraising network so robust that his team is preparing for a primary campaign that goes the distance, confident Paul will raise enough money to stay in the race as long as he wants.
His fundraising prowess dropped jaws four years ago when, during one cash-grab blitz, he raised more than $5 million in 24 hours. Drawing on thousands of small online donations, Paul has raised at least $1 million in five individual “money bombs” this year, according to his campaign.
Overall, he raised $4.5 million this year through June 30 and is expected to report $5 million more through the end of September. That’s well behind Romney and probably Perry, too. But it’s far more than most other candidates.
It‘s not just money that’s helped him become a more credible candidate this time around. It’s also the improved quality of his campaign.
Paul moved more quickly this year to put organizers and experienced workers in important states. He was the first candidate to run television ads in New Hampshire. At the straw poll in Ames, Iowa, a test of campaign organization, Paul finished second to Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann by only 152 votes.
“The fact that we have so many county chairmen and precinct chairmen and all this all through Iowa, we never had that before,” Paul said recently from his office in Washington.
There are signs that Paul is adopting more traditional, and possibly successful, campaign strategies, according to Eric Woolson, who managed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee’s victory in the 2008 Iowa caucuses. The strong straw poll finish was “maybe a little more of an acknowledgement that this is the way the game is played,” he said.
In New Hampshire, the difference goes beyond organization.
Paul still talks freely about some subjects that place him on the fringe, such as ending the fight against drugs. But his early ads in the state seemed to “recast” his image, said Richard Killion, an unaffiliated Republican strategist who had advised former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a 2012 race dropout, in New Hampshire.
The ads give the impression that Paul is the most electable and best positioned to beat Obama, going against the conventional wisdom that Paul “speaks out well on big problems in Washington, but may not be the best messenger to tackle them,” Killion said.
Paul is working to remedy that perception.
“I keep thinking maybe how I can improve on saying things so the people can understand what I‘m talking about and make sure that they don’t misinterpret me,” he said.
All this suggests Paul is poised to improve upon his 2008 performance, when he grabbed more than 7 percent in the New Hampshire Republican primary and reached as high as 14 percent in Nevada.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that Ron Paul will get somewhere north of 10 percent, possibly even in the high teens, which will have a major effect and impact on the race and who wins — whether its Perry or Romney — in New Hampshire,” said Michael Dennehy, a New Hampshire-based operative who led Sen. John McCain’s campaign four years ago.
“I would go so far as to say he will play spoiler,” Dennehy said. “I do not see his support waning below 10 percent.”
Paul also seems more willing to mix it up with the other candidates then he was in 2008.
He acknowledges trying to score political points that raise his profile in addition to his standard no-frills discussion of the issues.
A Paul television ad calling Perry “Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader” garnered loads of attention and drew attacks from Perry. That was an unusual reaction from a front-runner who would typically ignore attacks from lesser candidates.
Paul said he wrestles with how to apply the new style.
But as much as other candidates pull Paul’s ideas into the conservative mainstream, it‘s easy to forget he was the Libertarian Party’s candidate for president in 1988.
Paul calls for immediate withdrawal of troops around the world, brushes aside concerns about Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb and has suggested Israel be left to defend itself. Paul has renounced the President’s drone attack to kill Al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as unconstitutional. He would return to the days when the currency was backed by gold. He would eliminate a host of federal agencies and says, “There is no greater threat to the security and prosperity of the United States today than the out-of-control, secretive Federal Reserve.”
Mostly, Paul is pleased that some ideas he’s hammered for years are echoing all around him.
“Nobody ever did this and now it’s not just me doing this,” he said. “I think that’s all good.”
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Comments (255)
This_Individual
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:18pmWe can’t afford to have another statist as president, regardless of (R) or (D). Ron Paul is the only one of the Republican candidates that shows consistency on his logical solutions that would unravel the statist mess that has been entrenched in our government for a VERY long time.
Report Post »Little Johnny
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:52pmWe can afford to have whoever the Big Money powers-that-be decide we can afford to have, no? I mean, corporate America is doing Just Fine, thank you very much. What’s the problem? (Tongue placed firmly in cheek)
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:28pm@Little Johnny,
“I mean, corporate America is doing Just Fine, thank you very much. What’s the problem? (Tongue placed firmly in cheek)”
Corporations, today, have government protections; This is not the fault of a free market, but because of a LACK of a free market.
See here.
Anti-trust, Anti-truth
http://mises.org/daily/436
Also see here, which talks about such things as free market corporations (not necessarily an oxymoron), and, by extension, free market Unions (essentially the same thing as free market corporations).
Murray Rothbard: Corporations are free market
Report Post »http://www.dailypaul.com/111379/murray-rothbard-corporations-are-free-market
Dakota Hawk
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:31pmHerman Cain?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:51pmRon Paul can‘t win the nomination and he can’t win the general. But he’s a positive influence nonetheless. He gets people excited about Libretarian principles. that’s a good thing. Even if few of his supporters move on to vote Republican in the general (I’m just assuming for the point of argument) the more people he can pull away from the Democratic vision of “You need the government to help you” it strengthens the cause for liberty and weakens Obama’s robot army.
So fight on Paulistas.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:20am@Islesfordian,
“Ron Paul can‘t win the nomination and he can’t win the general. But he’s a positive influence nonetheless.”
We’re going to vote for Ron Paul whether he can win or not, because we’re convinced that both parties will continue to destroy our Constitutional Republic.
So, if you believe that we might split the Republican vote and allow Obama to win, then you can either try to reason with us that some other candidate would make a BETTER President because of their policies, or you could get on board with us (not that we’d suggest for you to vote for Ron Paul “just because”).
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:22amYou got it, DAKOTA HAWK!
Report Post »Herman Cain is a genuine conservative. I trust him in both domestic and foreign policy matters.
Let’s do the math — Herman Cain is the solution to the problem.
dr_funk
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:31amThat‘s where you’re wrong. Ron Paul is NOT the only candidate with strong constitutionally conservative principles. You’re just too lazy to actually pay attention to anyone other than Ron Paul.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 6:16amRon Paul is the only current candidate who can save America…
This man of integrity stands on principles, and his rhetoric matches his record. No flip-flopping, no back-door deals, no forked tongue… Ron Paul has consistently honored his oath to the Constitution and legislated in the best interests of the American people.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for America.
Report Post »webpreacher
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 8:03amThe problem “LITTLE_JONNY, Is we have in place an “UNconstitutional Government,,taking over Business, Healthcare, destroying the small business sector, not only unconstitutional, but criminal ! What is it you that like about this present “evil” government anyway? It did not start with Obama either, this “progressive” mindset of government goes back 50 + years, having slowly infiltrating its way into power, hacking away at our freedoms & liberties a little more with each administration. Its not just the Federal Government, State & the Local government has pretty much follow the same course to a suppressive state, putting the squeeze on the private sector, more and more taxes, regulations, limitations, expirations. What’s the problem you ask, people who don’t see “THE PROBLEM OF BIG GOVERNMENT AND ITS OVER-REACHING POWER OVER YOUR LIFE, IN YOUR HOUSE, YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR HEALTH, YOUR PERSONAL DECISSIONS, YOUR SPEACH, YOUR FAITH, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR MONEY (which they believe is a privilege), What’s the problem you ask, the ignorance of the public sector, in not recognizing that there is a problem with BIG GOVERNMENT !!!! HELLO !!
Just so you’ll know….”LITTLE_JOHNNY”, who apparently loves BIG Government !
We have a Government in place, right now, that does NOT recognize the Constitution it is sworn to duty to uphold and defend !! HELLO !!
What’s the problem you ask ? quite simply….YOU !!!!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 11:33amAnyone but Obama.PERIOD
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:48pmGo, Ron, Go!
As on the Alex Jones show, pick Jesse Ventura as your running mate and start steering this country back to where it was meant to be. While not everyone likes Jesse, we need a whollop like him and Ron in the White House to start fixing the severely broken legislature we currently have.
WOLVERINES!
Report Post »Czar Kasim
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 3:39pmDon’t vote for!! Paul, he is honest. Electing an honest politician. Could crack the earth or invert space and time. Keep voting for those flip flopping tell you what you want hear liars.
Report Post »gracentruth
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 2:28amI agree with Dr. Paul on everything – except Israel. Perhaps he is right when he says non-intervention is correct, except the Bible says that God will bless those who bless Israel. I do not worry about Israel – God will fight and win for Israel, but I worry about America. if America stands with Israel, God will bless us. If not, …… down we go. Peace,
Report Post »ozz
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 6:29amRon Paul is the only honest man running. He has my vote period.
Report Post »Not electable? They said the same thing about Reagan.
kangaroo
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:17pmI want to know how these illegals vote! As far as I know if your a resident they won’t accept your vote
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:28pmHe lost me this week by complaining about killing our enemy. I don’t care if alawaki (or whatever the hell his rag head name is) mother is the head of the PTA….. he is the enemy….Kill him.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:03pmI agree. We are at war with radical Islamic extremists from no particular country making it impossible for Congress to declare war the normal way. RP lost my support with that hair brained statement. The object of war is to kill the enemy any way you can until either he surrenders or there is none left to kill.
Report Post »GUT_CHECK
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:24pmfind him guilty in an American court. then kill him.
wait to see the backlash that could reverberate through the courts by doing it this way. you think death sentance appeals go on forever? i bet this could be in court for a long long time.
capture him, and try him.
constitutional law professor obama should have known that, commie
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:28pmVoting for Paul is voting for another 4 years of Obama, there’s no chance that Paul can win. He’s too radical I mean come on legalizing drugs that can kill people. I will never vote for Paul although I don’t think anybody in the republican party right now is the true answer that this country needs. Perry has Issues, Rommey is a disastor walking, bachmann has no experience, Cain his tax plan is basically a VAT Tax on the whole country, Santorum’s too conservative. Hopefully whoever wins isn’t going to screw it up but we all said the same thing about George W Bush.
Report Post »HARDWORKPAYS
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:33pmYou better hope that you are not ever declared the enemy. If so, you are dead. It will not matter that you have rights under the constitution. That was Mr. Paul’s point. It takes a mature mind to get passed the emotional response, and see the greater picture. In this case, yes the man was a terrorist, but in the future…who knows. That is why ALL American citizens have the same rights. Period.
Report Post »HARDWORKPAYS
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:41pmCorrection: to get past. not to get passed. I guess I watched too much football today!
Report Post »Go Bears!
MakeTheMiddleEastAGlassFactory
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:48pmFor me it paul or Cain. I like people who don’t apologize for who they are.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:15pm“Paul calls for immediate withdrawal of troops around the world, brushes aside concerns about Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb and has suggested Israel be left to defend itself. Paul has renounced the President’s drone attack to kill Al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as unconstitutional.
He thinks we have no worries about Iran…OMG, we should not defend Israel and he won’t keep us safe from terrorists. Really!! No, he will not be elected, that I am sure of.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:37pmFor those who question Ron Paul about Aw whoever, if the government can assassinate him as an enemy without a finding legally that he is an enemy, what keeps them from declaring Tea Partiers as enemies of the state and terrorists,(which by the way they have done) and assassinating them as they see fit. Do you really trust O his minions that much that you are willing to risk your life.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:40pmLegalize drugs lol. When will you learn that every one already does drugs.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:15pmLike his message – I just don’t think he is electable because of his quirky mannerisms.
His defense policy is a serious concern to me.
I‘ve always said he’d make an excellent Presidential adviser.
Now, as for the WRITING on behalf of THEBLAZE.COM’s staff:
“hold out FIR victory”
“whether ITS Perry or Romney”
“more willing to mix it up with the other candidates THEN he was in 2008.”
Is nobody proofreading your writing? The first 2 could be typos. However, the 3rd is just poor writing skills. “THAN” is a comparison – “MORE THAN;” whereas, “THEN” indicates a sequence, “he did this THEN he did that.”
I boldly defend my fellow blazers when they are attacked for misspelled words or typos.
Report Post »But you are PAID to be PROFESSIONAL writers! Do you not have an editor who reads your copy?
Come, ON!
.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:54pm@TomFerrari,
“His defense policy is a serious concern to me.”
His defense policy is that of our Founders.
See here.
The Phony Arguments for Presidential War Powers
http://www.tomwoods.com/warpowers/
See also this relevant article by Ron Paul.
An unconstitutional killing: Obama’s killing of Awlaki violates American principles
Report Post »http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/10/02/2011-10-02_an_unconstitutional_killing.html?print=1&page=all
GUT_CHECK
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:28pmwhen i was young, i asked my dad in our ‘64 Mercury what the constitution was all about.
point after point i would get so excited.
“ya mean you could carry a gun Dad?”
“this paper can be traded for silver and gold Dad?”
“the country declares every war or we dont go?”
and point after point, my Dad said “well, they changed that part”
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:00amA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
1) At a campaign stop on Saturday in Winterset, one man asked Paul how terrorist groups would react if the U.S. removed its military presence in Middle Eastern nations, a move the candidate advocates.
“Which enemy are you worried that will attack our national security?” Paul asked.
“If you’re looking for specifics, I’m talking about Islam. Radical Islam,” the man answered.
“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”
I guess Dr. Paul forgot the words spoken to Jefferson and Adams when they inquired to the ambassador of Tripoli, Abd Al-Rahman, As to the right he has in attacking our ships, raping American women and enslaving American Citizens.. Islam isn’t our enemy!
2) Paul cited a University of Chicago professor, Robert Pape, whose research argues that most of the suicide terrorism in the past 30 years was caused by military occupation. Pape’s research, funded by the Defense Department, shows that suicide bombings in Afghanistan went up one third after the Obama administration surged 30,000 troops into the country.
Dr. Paul cited a study and used it as a basis for his position. Not only is Pape wrong; he’s on the dole of Hamas-linked CAIR.
I like Dr. Paul but as far as his understanding of Islam He’s lost! That makes
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:45amAmbassador Abd Al-Rahman Response to Jefferson and Admas was.
“it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:15pmQuirky? Is that what they are calling those who have allegiance to the US Constitution today? lol
don’t you just love the 1st paragraph of the article.. Mainstream Media is so afraid of this guy. They are afraid that he’d challenge the Constitutionality of the Feds and that we stop these asinine money wasting wars in the Middle East. We all know that in order to be in the click we have to be for the Fed and for the Wars… lol Like Obama GWB, Romney, Perry, Christie, Cain, Gingrich, and Santorium.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:49pm@Steve,
“I guess Dr. Paul forgot the words spoken to Jefferson and Adams when they inquired to the ambassador of Tripoli, Abd Al-Rahman, As to the right he has in attacking our ships, raping American women and enslaving American Citizens.. Islam isn’t our enemy!”
You’re referring to the Barbary Pirates; Ron Paul addressed this conflict when he talks about the Constitutional Letters of Marque and Reprisal.
See here.
Ron Paul on “Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSP9NteApqI
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:53pm(Continued from prior post)
You said:
“Paul cited a University of Chicago professor, Robert Pape, whose research argues that most of the suicide terrorism in the past 30 years was caused by military occupation.”
…
“Dr. Paul cited a study and used it as a basis for his position. Not only is Pape wrong; he’s on the dole of Hamas-linked CAIR.”
I’m not sure whether Pape is getting paid by CAIR, but CAIR is dangerous, as you say.
See here.
Shariah: The Threat to America [PDF]
Section: Council on American Islamic Relations
Page 142
http://shariahthethreat.org/
(About the Book > Download the Book PDF)
(Linked from: “What is Shariah”: http://bigpeace.com/teamb/2010/09/17/what-is-shariah/)
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:58pm(Continued from prior post)
Pape did seek CAIR’s help to boost sales of his book, which presumably makes the same case as the study to which you refer.
See here.
Pseudo-academic propagandist schemes with Hamas-linked CAIR to inflate book sales
http ://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/pseudo-academic-propagandist-schemes-with-hamas-linked-cair-to-inflate-book-sales.html
And here.
Michigan director of Hamas-linked CAIR says Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam
http ://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/michigan-director-of-hamas-linked-cair-says-islamic-terrorism-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam.html
Whether or not Robert Pape or Ron Paul are aware of CAIR’s hidden agenda, I don’t know. This is definitely a cause for concern.
It should be noted, however, that, regardless of CAIR’s deceptions, sovereign countries are sovereign, and unless it can be shown that the governments, THEMSELVES, in which the terrorists are based, are attempting to attack us, then our government must use the Constitutional Letters of Marque and Reprisal to deal with the threats of rogue attackers.
Report Post »Czar Kasim
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 3:55pmMaybe they were government edumacated.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 1:22amA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Thank you for the links.
I find it disturbing that labels are still attached to those who follow the commandments of Muhammad as if they are separate and apart from nations who use the Koran as it’s main political guide.They all drink from the same well.The pirates were followers of Muhammad. They fought in his name just as OBL and the other so called Organizations that have sprung up over the last 100 years.
Dr. Paul said. Our founders wanted to deal with it but didn’t want to declare war.
The pirates didn’t belong to any country
We were paying them what can be considered the Jizya tax. It soon became so great that it comprised 10% of our National budget. These payments went to Tripoli. Yusuf Karamanli, the pasha of Tripoli, declared war on the United States in May 1801, in pursuit of his demand for more revenue.
So I’m confused here. How can Dr. Paul say The pirates didn’t belong to any country
when in fact the country of Tripoli spoke not only for themselves but other Muslim nations practicing jihad against American Ships? We of course eventually went to war.
I’m still not convinced that Dr. Paul understand the true nature of Islam and it’s designs for our destruction. Do we wait for them to kill millions before we act or do we cut ties and trade with all countries who by their own beliefs wish to see America destroyed and yet say they are our friends?
He says they are not a Threat when evidence shows they ar
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 4:34am@Steve,
“I’m still not convinced that Dr. Paul understand the true nature of Islam and it’s designs for our destruction.”
In the meantime, are you aware of the true nature of the Marxists within our own country? Spreading our military around the world is part of their strategy. Ron Paul wants to bring them all home.
See here.
Weatherman Underground Manifesto
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/43223/
“The goal is the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism. Winning state power in the US will occur as a result of the military forces of the US overextending themselves around the world and being defeated piecemeal; struggle within the US will be a vital part of this process, but when the revolution triumphs in the US it will have been made by the people of the whole world.”
Report Post »sweetconcern
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:11pm5 years ago I would not have been for Dr. Ron Paul but now he is the only canadate who makes any sense. End The Fed, bring troops home NOW, End the wefare State and end benefits to Illegal aliens. What part of common sense Do you not understand. Republicans for Dr. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Applehead
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:35pmRon Paul is a good man who loves America! He can count on my vote!!
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:01pmBecause you have the good half of his policies mentioned in your comments. If thats all he was about i would love him too. Make the full argument and not only the one that makes your job defending him easy.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:14pmHe is mentioning Ron Paul’s positions on what the other candidates are too scared to even talk about much less defend their positions, especially on foreign policy. At best some are saying audit the fed, and most don’t have a plan for illegal immigration. LOL Perry wants more of it obviously…
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:41pmim not even disagreeing. Your so stuck on forcing your opinon on people you can even see that i was agreeing with what was wrote. What i didnt agree with is if your proud of RP then put all his Policies out in the open, not just the ones everyone like anyway. Most of the canidates like all those policies with variateys fluctuate with the troops.
RP is still a bag of nuts.
Report Post »Zorro6821
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 10:07amI believe in Dr. Paul. I do not believe in the Media Selected Candidates or the Flavor of the month. I am disappointed that the Beckster marginalizes Dr. Paul. For all Becks grandstanding about the constitution, he pulls Perry out of his hat. So much for Beck and doing vetting and research. Paul for 2012!!!!!!
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:40pmIn particular, which of his policies do you object to?
Being against the assassination of a US citizen? Being against the unconstitutional usurpation of the rights and powers of the States and the People, by wanting to end the futile War on Some Drugs? Being likewise against the harassment of people who want to drink raw milk, and eat fresh eggs, for instance? Determining that it is not within the scope of the powers reserved to the Federal government, to engage in regulation of agreements and contracts between individuals, as to how they will arrange their lives and livelihoods, provide services to each other, educate themselves and their progeny, and so on?
Not following you here. What’s wrong with ANY of his policies?
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:04pmWhat you PAul supporters must realize is he will only be as effective as the Congress will let him. He is way too far into the libertarian mantra for him to get some of his unatainable ideas to be acceped. IT JUST WON”T HAPPEN! Any of these people running for president are giving you their “ideal” administration. Non of them (including that POS in the WH) will gett all that they want.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:15pmWhat you anti Paul Pundits do not realize is that, you can either:
1) Throw your support behind Ron Paul.
OR
2) Lose to election to Obama.
It is anyone but Obama isnt it? Isnt it?…….oh…..ABO except Ron Paul sorry, I forgot.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:24pmThat is why WE must get out and elect GOOD CANDIDATES IN EVERY DISTRICT, and not just a President. I see the President as the gatekeeper. Congress can pass all the bills they want, but, the President must ALLOW it to become law.
Report Post »So, we have to recruit and elect a good Congress/Senate that will send GOOD bills to the President for his signature.
This is NOT just a “get rid of obama” issue!
We have LOTS of work to do!
TomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:27pm@libertariansunite – what YOU miss is, your own hypocrisy:
ABO, except Cain, except Perry, except Romney, except Cain, Bachmann, except Pawlenty, except Daniels, except…
puh-leeze… we like Ron Paul, but we are pragmatic. We honestly don’t believe we can get him over the finish line. That is why we have a PRIMARY, so we can UNITE behind a single candidate, and, JOINTLY usher them into office!
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:32pm@TOM
Since when have the Republicans fixed it?
And Cain will not do anything to the Federal Reserve. Period. Therefore our problem continues.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:40pmThats why you gotta stack the congress with Tea party and representatives that are actually serious about fixing the country, not lying, backstabbing, flip flopping suckers that are there now. Perry and Romney fall square into that category, so they must not be allowed to win.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:05pmTomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:27pm
@TomFerrari’s “puh-leeze… we like Ron Paul, but we are pragmatic. We honestly don’t believe we can get him over the finish line. That is why we have a PRIMARY, so we can UNITE behind a single candidate, and, JOINTLY usher them into office!”
Thank you! Well said!
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:08pm@liberalsarealiens,
“What you PAul supporters must realize is he will only be as effective as the Congress will let him. He is way too far into the libertarian mantra for him to get some of his unatainable ideas to be acceped.”
We can remedy this by showing people that libertarianism is NOT liberalism, and that the Republicans have abandoned the Constitution’s libertarian principles they once held.
See here.
Lord and Levin Welcome Ron Paul to the Top Tier
Report Post »http://www.dailypaul.com/176576/lord-and-levin-welcome-ron-paul-to-the-top-tier
PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:43pmRon Paul is the only one beating Obama in Polls. If you think Bachman,Perry Or Romney will defeat Obama.. well than you must have dreamt that last night.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 9:51amYou’re so right — A President can only accomplish what Congress lets him — or what executive orders can do. Look how powerful executive orders work for Obama, and mandates from his Czars/Departments. Do you want 10% of any of the current candidates? I’ll take 10% of Dr. Ron Paul any day!
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:43pmIt is not about “Anyone But Obama”, for those who have heard the message of Liberty given us by our Founding Fathers, and echoed by Ron Paul.
It is about “Nobody Except Paul”.
In other words, if you want to beat Obama, you will nominate Paul, because if you do not, the “Paulistas” will NOT vote for a Romney, Perry, or other butt-sniffing establishment Republican type.
Those days are OVER.
Report Post »Trenaway
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:02pmTo all Ron Paul cultist lairs! Only Herman Cain is a conservative in this race. Ron Paul is NOT! Herman Cain got 77% of the Tea Party support Teacon 2011, which Ron Paul did not attend.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:08pm“Only Herman Cain is a conservative in this race.”
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Says who??:
“No Need To Audit the Federal Reserve According to Herman Cain”
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TomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:20pm“No need to audit…”
You fail to mention WHY Cain said we do not need to “AUDIT” them.
He clearly stated that we do not need to AUDIT them, because there will be nothing to find.
It is Herman Cain’s stance, that all their books are in order.
After all, why SHOULDN’T they be?
It is perfectly legal for them to print all the money they want.
That power was ceded to them by Congress (though I don’t think Congress is/should be Constitutionally allowed to DELEGATE its powers.)
Why audit them? Curiosity as to just how much they have printed? Okay, fine. But, that won’t change anything.
We need to ELIMINATE them, and Cain has not said no to that, to the best of my knowledge.
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stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:20pmAre you aware that hermain cain openly supported TARP, bank bailouts, is a former federal reserve chairman, is against auditing the fed? Unfortunately none of his supporters know his record. This guy also endorsed Mitt Romeny in 07. Cain is horrible pick just as the rest of the rino’s, the only real candidate is Ron Paul…
Report Post »JustinHale
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:22pmI’m pretty sure Ron Paul started the modern Tea Party…
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:25pmRon Paul is the MOST conservative candidate, actually.
See here.
Lord and Levin Welcome Ron Paul to the Top Tier
http://www.dailypaul.com/176576/lord-and-levin-welcome-ron-paul-to-the-top-tier
And as @KidCharlemagne notes, Cain doesn’t understand that the Fed is the PRIMARY reason for both the bad economy and the encroachments of the federal government.
The Trouble with Herman Cain
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_RXM8Kt6g
KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:04pmTomFerrari
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:20pm
He clearly stated that we do not need to AUDIT them, because there will be nothing to find.
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Ironically enough, Cain made this statement not too long before the one-time (minimal) audit of the Fed conducted earlier this year revealed that it was bailing out a bank in which Colonel Qaddafi owned a 29 percent stake in:
“Arab Banking Corp., the lender part- owned by the Central Bank of Libya, used a New York branch to get 73 loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve in the 18 months after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. collapsed.
The bank, then 29 percent-owned by the Libyan state, had aggregate borrowings in that period of $35 billion — while the largest single loan amount outstanding was $1.2 billion in July 2009, according to Fed data released yesterday.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-31/libya-owned-arab-banking-corp-drew-at-least-5-billion-from-fed-in-crisis.html
Is a Federal Reserve bailout of Colonel Qaddafi considered “nothing”???
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:51pm@TomFerrari,
“He clearly stated that we do not need to AUDIT them, because there will be nothing to find.”
But there IS something to find.
See here.
The Trouble with Herman Cain
(on the Federal Reserve)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_RXM8Kt6g#t=3m09s
And here.
Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk: Stop the Police State Repeal the Patriot Act!
http://www.dailypaul.com/153437/ron-pauls-texas-straight-talk-stop-the-police-state-repeal-the-patriot-act
“With the new Republican majority in the House I will have the opportunity as a subcommittee chairman to take a careful look at our domestic monetary policy. I’m excited by the prospect of real oversight of the Federal Reserve, but I also hope to focus on the important ways in which our foreign policy and monetary policy are related. Just last week the Financial Times reported that the limited oversight of the Federal Reserve allowed by the passage of a watered-down version of my Audit the Fed bill revealed that approximately 55% of the loans made available under the largest Federal Reserve bailout program – termed “auction facility” – went to foreign banks.”
…
“This is why it is key for us to understand that our foreign policy and current economic crisis go hand in hand.”
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:50pmTea Party represents America? I don’t think so buddy
Report Post »kangaroo
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:01pmPersonally, I think the united state(s) should go back to being just that, The states should compete against each other for biz, the taxes they impose, immigration laws. give a smidgin to the fed, all done sold to the american workers for better life liberty and the american way, wooo whooooo, or is that just to logical, can we throw in a fair or flat tax or is that askin to much.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:53pmNeo-cons are so used to living in a constant war that they belive that WAR is the only way to peace and prosperity. The Commiecrats want to destroy every freedom that is left over and have the government run it all via the elites.. Wait a minute, both parties are doing that.. Hence the reason Ron Paul has not only middle aged America but legions of youth and THEY are marching in the streets. Are they really on the wrong side? Or is Glenn warmongering again.. We’ll see how this all ends soon. The Elites want to send us to camp.. Not the fun kind. If you think we haven’t been set up for failure think again.
Report Post »louise
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 6:51amWhen all else fails to ‘fix’ the economy, they will take us to war.
War is the last resort for some semblance of prosperity.I would love for someone smarter than I, to chart all of America’s wars alongside the Keynesian bust and boom business cycle.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »proantisocialist
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:50pmme and ron are on the same page when it comes to seclusionism.
Report Post »some say we need to sell our products outside our own country to propel our economy which is true but what happens when that peaks? do look for aliens of other worlds to sell to i think not…
do we need other countries for our saftey,hows that working out?
if we were to be seclusionist our economy wouldnt have the pittfalls we have now.greece,italy,spain ect. they would not have affected us as much.
restore tarrifs to pay for our goverment, spending on military and infrastructure,and make american workers competitive again..we can stop this disposable lifestyle and start creating things that last for more then a year.change our immigration laws so we dont get bunches of socialist who want to change our way of life…
stop giving money to foreign countries that dont like our way of life…
start using our own resources oil,natural gas ect.if we dont have it we dont need it. if we do need it we can barter for it like oil for water in the middle east as an example..
if a country need money set up a payment plan like our banks do for us and if they default we take their land..
is it worth going to war over our way of life absolutely so why do keep trying make them our friends…
if thay want to be our friends then they need to move to our way of life and adopt our constitution as their own. and they can do this while keeping their own culture intact.
we can no longer call you a friend while oppressing you o
The10thAmendment
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:57pmBut Ron Paul is not an isolationist. He’s a non interventionist.
A vote for anyone not named Paul, Cain or Backmann is definitely a vote for progressivism, and by proxy a vot for the lefts communism.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:27pm@proantisocialist,
“me and ron are on the same page when it comes to seclusionism.”
Ron Paul’s not an isolationist. He believes in free trade with other countries.
“some say we need to sell our products outside our own country to propel our economy which is true but what happens when that peaks? do look for aliens of other worlds to sell to i think not…”
Free trade benefits both parties. Innovations will occur and/or alternative goods will be made, and the standard of living for both parties will keep improving.
Please watch this series of videos.
Story of Stuff, The Critique Part 1 of 4
http :// www . youtube . com /watch?v=c5uJgG05xUY
“if we were to be seclusionist our economy wouldnt have the pittfalls we have now.greece,italy,spain ect. they would not have affected us as much.”
Our pitfalls are due to fiat money and central planning, not free trade.
“restore tarrifs to pay for our goverment, spending on military and infrastructure,and make american workers competitive again.”
Or just shrink the size of the government to fit its Constitutional limits – that way we won’t have to pay for so much.
(Continued on next post)
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:35pm(Continued from prior post)
“we can stop this disposable lifestyle and start creating things that last for more then a year.”
You actually don’t want things to last forever, 1) because it would be so cost prohibitive that only a few could afford it, and 2) there will be better and cheaper products as innovations occur, and you’ll be stuck with an expensive obsolete product.
“start using our own resources oil,natural gas ect.if we dont have it we dont need it. if we do need it we can barter for it like oil for water in the middle east as an example.”
We should use our own resources, yes. And if we run out of one, then we will either use alternatives or, like you said, trade for them.
“if a country need money set up a payment plan like our banks do for us and if they default we take their land.”
They would be rightfully offended if we tried to make their land to be collateral.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:17pmHere’s another good resource on the issue of free trade. It shows why both Obama and Trump are wrong about the whole issue of “trade deficits” (of course, it doesn’t help that we devalue our dollar such that businesses LEAVE America).
Defending the Undefendable (Chapter 23: The Importer) by Walter Block
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techengineer11
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:20pmThe10thAmendment: All of our Founders were Isolationists and non interventionists? How in the hell do you think we became so rich? lol
Seriously you are not that dumb are you? These Wars are bleeding us dry! Both financially and literally!
Report Post »Think man. If you are for small R republicanism like your handle suggests you clearly have to see that these nonending Wars are not in this country’s best interests. We need to return to protecting our Borders and sure up our Defenses at home not staying on the Offense.
olddog
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:47pmPerry needs to wipe the sh@t eating grin off his face..
Report Post »olddog
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:45pmI am behind Ron except for foreign policy. He thinks if we leave them alone they’ll leave us alone. If that were only true.. But everything else he is right on. As far as Christie, he’s 85% leftist and will Never have my vote.. It’s the middle of the road folks that want Christie, and we need to move Right, not middle..
Report Post »kangaroo
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:48pmOld Dog, with ya, you gotta remember that the prez has people around him to advise, so even if Paul says nay, he maybe advised to say Yay, Our prez right now just gives the finger
Report Post »Crickets
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:51pmYou know,Everything that Ron has said for the last 30+ years has come true.All of his positions are just now being caught up to and endorsed by all of the candidates.Maybe ya‘ll just haven’t caught up to the foreign policy…..yet.:)
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:57pmForeign policy is a BIG DEAL . we need someone who won’t go weak on defense .. LIKE CARTER DID … Clinton DID .. Ron Paul would!
Cain/Rubio 2012
TEA!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:06pmRon Paul‘s foreign policy is President George Washington’s foreign policy:
“Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”
Report Post »-President George Washington, September 19, 1796
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
BetterDays
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:33pmThen you don’t understand his foreign policy, and in not understanding his defense policy you stands AGAINST the founders of America as well.
The founders Washington, Adams, Madison all spoke out against wars of empire, is that not exactlynwhat we’ve done since WWII. Trust me, if Ron Paul was president our kinds are coming home, and IF someones dumb enough to attack us here, they shall cease to exist as a people.
That’s how we are supposed to fight war, and it’s hard to understand WHY people whonsay they want a return to constitutional rule, fight so hard against the candidate who will get us there.
Some say congress wontvwork with him, I say GOOD that will show the rest of America exactly who they truely serve, that’s a good thing, because we can get rid of them once and for all, I hope.
But voting for any other candidate is like putting the barrel in your mouth, pulling the trigger and hoping your not respinsabile, really bad thinking.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:48pm@KidCharlemagne … you’re absolutely right — Ron Paul’s views are the same as George Washington. But the world has changed dramatically since 1796. RP might be able to make improvements on domestic issues, but he would be a disaster on foreign affairs. The US is far too enmeshed with international affairs and not everyone in the world wants peace. There are many who want total domination and are willing to destroy America to get it.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:13pmLook4DBigPicture
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:48pm
But the world has changed dramatically since 1796.
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You’re right:
“Violence Vanquished
SEPTEMBER 24, 2011
We believe our world is riddled with terror and war, but we may be living in the most peaceable era in human existence. Why brutality is declining and empathy is on the rise.
On the day this article appears, you will read about a shocking act of violence. Somewhere in the world there will be a terrorist bombing, a senseless murder, a bloody insurrection. It’s impossible to learn about these catastrophes without thinking, “What is the world coming to?”
But a better question may be, “How bad was the world in the past?”
Believe it or not, the world of the past was much worse. Violence has been in decline for thousands of years, and today we may be living in the most peaceable era in the existence of our species.”
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sambachico
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:46pmIn 2007-2008, I felt exactly the same way as you did about Ron Paul. 100% except I was highly unsure of some of his foreign policy concerns. It took me another year of reading some books and some soul searching, including my christian faith that Paul was right from a morality and constitutional standpoint on our foreign policy. It really comes down to this question:
Is our own government a greater threat to our liberties and way of life than Islam and terrorists?
Report Post »Has the government abandoned so many founding principles that it no longer represents a Republic? Are we really free in this country or are we just propagandized that we are free? After much more research I came to the conclusion that while Islam and middle-eastern countries could inflict damage to our country, they are in no shape or form able to destroy America militarily or our way of life. Unfortunately, our government has been on a hellish course devaluing our currency, propping up the banks/Military Industrial complex and a crony capitalist state (economic fascism), and the complete abandonment of individual property rights, and individual liberty with acts like the patriot act. My conclusion – that if things continue to progress in the manner they have the last 20-30 years, there won’t be much of a country with any values left to save – as we will look like a european socialist state. I hope I am wrong, but the handwriting is on the wall, and we need a man with principles like Ron Paul.
Steve
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:36amKidCharlemagne
GW was a great man and a great leader but to compare today’s global threat (Islam) and specifically destroying the United States as is their desire ( 3 or 4 well placed Nuclear weapons is all it will take) is simply ignoring the elephant in the room and Dr.Paul has and continues to ignore the Elephant,
I just dont understand it. And this doesn’t just go for Dr. Paul this goes fro every politician thats up on the stage like dancing bears.
Islam is the threat. Not a bunch of 7th century moe moes in a cave. we’re talking about those who embraced Hitlers final solution, those who preach in mosques both domestically and internationally spreading the lies and distortion of our way of life, remember Islam will always come before patriotism to The United States. We‘re talking of college graduates and political leaders who embrace Muhammad’s Ideology and it’s destiny of a global caliphate.
I’ve been on this well before Glenn and well before 9-11. Islam is the threat. If you dont think so then answer a very simple question. Just how much do you really understand the ideology and it’s mandates.
Define a moderate Muslim and then define a Media labeled radical Muslim.
Someone who believes a little Of Muhammad’s Doctrines?.
Report Post »Someone who believes in 1/2 of Muhammad Doctrines?
Someone who believes in 3/4 of Muhammad Doctrines?
Someone who believes in all of Muhammad Doctrines?
kangaroo
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:37pmIts all bull wallap isn’t it, but you have to vote for the party this time no matter wat, thing is some of the candidates are wolfs in sheeps clothing, Romney for one, Perry close, crap we are screwed, learn how to sail peeps, better to be on a beach eatin conch than under a bridge starvin just sayin,
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:36pmWhat is so wonderful about the establishment Rinos in the Republican party? All they can is pay lip service to the Constitution. Ron paul can actually implement it.
Report Post »mils
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:49pmalthough Paul “will not” be the person you will be voting for..it is important to keep the final goal in site as you do vote…getting the democrats out of office NOW!!
Report Post »Many on this site in particular, will be disappointed…but it won’t be Paul you get to vote for on a republican ticket and if you split the ticket because he goes third party…you have just given the presidency back to the Democrats.
coindexter
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:39pmright back at’ya MILS…you just split the ticket and gave the presidency back to the dem’s.
Report Post »JustJerry
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:01pmThe difference between the Republicans and Obama is not as much as they want you to believe. Both sides have proven themselves to be big spenders, pro-war and anti freedom. Its time for liberty minded people to occupy and take control of the Republican party. It is our best chance.
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:55pmSorry, Mils. If it is a choice between Perry and Obama, I’d rather vote for Obama.
If you were being ambushed, would you rather the enemy sneak up behind you and clobber you in the back of the head, or come screaming at you from the front? Would you rather have an enemy sidle up next to you claiming to be friend, or stand up and call you out to the street for a fight?
Obama is out to destroy this country, but at least he is doing it in public where everyone can see. These “compassionate conservatives” and RINOs claim to be backing the Constitution, but in reality are only tearing it down slowly from the inside while lulling the populace to sleep.
Screw that. If it is going to be destroyed anyway, do it quickly so that we can get about the business of rebuilding sooner.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:55pmMILS, if the Republicans nominate anyone BUT Paul, they will have acceded the race to Obama. It’s just that simple. Without the Paul supporters, the Republicans CANNOT win the election. And the Paul supporters are people who are tired of the establishment telling them who they should vote for, hoping there’s a real difference between the two parties, and getting let down and bent over time and time again.
We SEE there is a REAL difference between the candidates right now. On the one side, you have Obama, Democrat Perry, Socialist Romney, Tax Collector Bachman, and the list goes on. On the other side, you have Doctor Paul and Governor Johnson.
THERE is the difference we seek, and we will vote FOR a GOOD candidate for once, instead of voting for the lesser of two evils.
Remember, a vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote FOR EVIL. And we are tired of evil.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:34pmTom Woods responds to 15 so-called “extreme” positions that Ron Paul holds.
See here.
Thought Controllers Call Ron Paul “Extreme”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FFhSr1A1do
Abraham Young
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:33pmIf liberals vote for Ron so much the better. The two party system gives two evil choices.I am glad to have a choice that I don’t have to compromise over.
Report Post »Little Johnny
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:59pmExcept that they won’t. Not once they learn how he would dismantle the protections the keep people from spoiling the commons. The “unregulated free market” doesn’t provide for good stewardship —- that damn profit motive is just too strong.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:31pmOh and blaze:
Report Post »Thanks for throwing Ron Paul supporters some love. We’ll take every bit we can get.
Abraham Young
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:29pmSince neither Perry nor Romney have conservative leanings, the clear choice is RonPaul. I vote my conscience. I cannot in good conscience support any other than the best man.It matters little to me who is electable according to the lemmings if the two party system.God who I an accountable to, not the Republican party.Ron Paul supports American founding values.The others have lost their compass.
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:08pmIt blows people’s minds when you tell them you vote with your conscience and not for a “team” like R or D. Voting for Ron Paul is the only way I can ensure that not only I, but all Americans have more liberty and freedom. Having a govt that respects their constitutional rights. Legalize a different currency… PLEASE. The federal reserve is destroying our dollar with no checks and balances. The tide is changing back to an America that recognizes what true liberty and freedom with a govt that adheres to a constitution firmly. Its a new morning in America soon.
Besides Ron, no one person can do anything. All across this country people are running for local, state, federal offices that have the same viewpoint. We live in exciting times.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:26pmRon Paul has the most consistent and conservative record out of all the candidates, yet some would rather vote for a candidate based on what he tells you and how he says it. That’s right, they’ll tell you what they want you to hear, but will they live up to it? Sounds a lot like Obama when he was campaigning as a moderate… They are always more liberal than they appear, but we would rather keep on voting for them because a true Constitutionalist would be too much for this country to handle.
Report Post »Trenaway
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:59pmRon Paul is NOT a conservative and has a record of being a liberal. So stop the lies about him!
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:07pmYou should explain how he has a record of being “liberal”.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:24pm@trenaway – you have the most blatant lie I have ever heard against Ron Paul. Saying that he has a record of LIBERAL voting is ridiculous.
Report Post »http://www.dailypaul.com/134540/ron-paul-most-conservative-voting-record-since-1937
Ron Paul had the most conservative voting record out of anyone in congress (more than 3000+) from 1937-2002.
He has never voted for: a tax hike, gun restrictions, an unbalanced budget, an illegal war, a bailout, a stimulous.
He backs the gold standard (sound money), and is pro life.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO STOP SPREADING LIES!
sambachico
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:57pm@TRENAWAY
Is conservatism not to conserve our founding principles and the rule of law?
I would seriously like to see you define conservatism if you believe Ron Paul is a liberal or does not represent conservative principles.
Unfortunately conservatism in the last 20 years has been 100% confused with neoconservatism.
Can you explain to me how Ron Paul’s views on personal liberty and foreign policy are any different than the founder of modern conservatism- Russell Kirk? Please do some research and get back to me. I’m going to love your response. If your definition of conservatism includes Dick Cheney or George W. Bush, here’s your sign.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:23pmIncoming millions of posts from Anti Paul Pundits who do not use an ounce of logic, but instead demagogue….
Ron Paul 2012! The only one who stands up against the Federal Reserve (the root to all our problems)!
Report Post »Countrygirl1362
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:30pmPoliticians are the root of all our problems.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:32pmThe fed is the root of most of our problems. They OWN the politicians.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:23pmNo matter who wins, if it is not Paul, America will continue wars in the middle east and our servicemen will continue to die for no good reason.
It’s unpatriotic to choose to kill our military men. They’ve got lots of proper and useful work to do right here inside our own borders, such as deporting the illegal aliens.
Report Post »Crickets
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:23pmRemember,a vote for anyone but Ron Paul is a vote for Obama and more of the same corruption that has permeated both parties.Don‘t you remember Glenn saying that McCain was more dangerous because Republican’ts do it slower and more subtly?
Report Post »It’s the Philosophy stupid…
KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:36pm“Remember,a vote for anyone but Ron Paul is a vote for Obama and more of the same corruption that has permeated both parties.”
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Similarly, a vote for anyone but Ron Paul is just another vote for yet another liberal that the corporate media continually endorses….
If the corporate media actively promotes a potential candidate, then that’s the guy that I know to stay away from.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:10pmThe corporate media actively promotes Ron Paul??????????
Really????????????
Since when?
Report Post »Crickets
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:21pmRe-read it L.U.He’s on our team.:)
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:08pmLibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:10pm
The corporate media actively promotes Ron Paul??????????
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The corporate media actively promotes (some moreso than others) anybody but Ron Paul.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:47pmSorry I misread that.
Report Post »CulpepperJosh1638
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:20pmThis article just gave me, a simple college student, the balls to donate to Dr. Paul. I am sure there are other youth such as me, and if I agree with someone fifty years my senior, I think you older folk should suck it up and vote for someone with true morality. Instead of your phonies the media keeps propping up as legitimate.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:30pmThank you sir. It’s very refreshing to see others decide that their individual freedoms are important enough to dedicate their hard earned money to the cause of liberty. As time goes by more and more people will realize that they don’t have to be the tools of a corrupt establishment or the useful idiot of a particular party. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »CulpepperJosh1638
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:38pmIt’s purely mind-blowing how rePUBElicans and demoCANTs will stick to bashing RP followers for promoting the act of “free thought.” I just started term at Ore St. and heard several times; “whoever thinks freedom is real” is basically a crackpot and was laughed at when I brought up the pro-constitutionalists as a group who is being oppressed in my anthropology course. The biased is beyond belief in America.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:07amThank you for doing this. You are not doing this for Dr Paul, but for yourself. The Paul supporters are the tireless, irate minority setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. Your investment financially is only a small piece of your contribution. Your passion and love of liberty itself is something money cannot buy, and speaks volumes to those you associate with. Have a blessed week.
The common trait among Paul supporters – the love of liberty is within their soul.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:20pmIt says that he is the only candidate that is not a statist, so his platform is one that any reasonable person, either liberal or conservative, can get behind, if they just stop and think about what their relationship with their fellow citizens is supposed to be in the fabric of this republic.
Isn’t it amazing that ALL politicians hate Ron Paul? Isn’t it amazing that his prdictions have been spot on for decades? Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that represents doing something DIFFERENT this time.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 10:47amEven after 9/11 Bush didn’t close the border. Obama didn’t close the border. I began to wonder “what the heck is going on?”
I discovered United Nations Agenda 21 and ICELI (one world government stuff) and realized that BOTH MAJOR political parties support it!
I was hesitant to support Ron Paul because I feared some state might legalize a drug or two — but when I looked at the big picture, I knew Ron Paul was the only hope for America as we “once knew it” and the Constitution meant America to be.
Ron Paul 2012 — SEND MONEY IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:08pmAs liberals continue to back away from Obama, they are now looking at Ron Paul as a viable candidate. What does that say about Paul?
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:17pmDon‘t act like Ron Paul isn’t the most conservative candidate out there. You insinuate that he is like some moderate in sheeps’ clothing who can get the liberal vote. He was was ranked as the #1 most conservative congressman from 1937-2002. The problem with Paul for so many of you is that he does not go with the “new traditional conservative”. He has voted exactly the same for 30+ years. Democrats went to war in Vietnam. Democrats went to war in Korea. Yet when President Bush, so called conservative republican starts another endless war, it is now a conservative idea. People voted in republicans to get OUT of those wars. Put aside your prejudices and false assumptions and do some research on Ron Paul and how he relates to our founders and the constitution. Only then will you understand Liberty!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:41pmCalifornia straw poll doesn’t lie………………..
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:12pmYes because there is no Republicans in California.
wait?
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:27amThat maybe he can actually siphon off enough votes in a general election to win it? Or maybe it’s that some anti-war liberals value peace, so they see something in common with Paul. Paul will never get the die-hard liberals. The die-hard libs love regulation and taxation too much, and playing the business owner is the devil card. Go read some HUFFPO for an hour and you’ll be sick to your stomach with the level of intellectual incompetence on economics. The people who voted for Obama because they agreed with his position on peace and independents is where Paul can do very well.
It really won’t matter much if he does not win the Republican primary. It’s going to be a difficult fight. What I find funny is that with all of the anti-Paul rhetoric in the media and with some bloggers, he’s still doing quite well at this stage.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:54amCode Pink activist Liz Hurican told Fox News: “The Ron Paul people are closer and closer to our talking points with each election.”
Ron Paul Spokeswoman Rachel Mills says “Code Pink is actually leaning more in the direction of Ron Paul’s beliefs and politics”, saying the Congressman “is in favor of coalition-building with anti-war groups.”
Really?
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:05pmWhat does it say about Paul? Nothing. The fact that you ask the question in that way says something about you, though.
You exhibit the mindset that a man should be responsible for the choices of others. That is the ultimate driving force behind statists like Obama, Perry and Romney.
The CodePink people have an agenda. There happens to be an overlay of the view that we should bring our troops home because war is bad and the view that we should bring our troops home because it is expensive, gets our men and women killed, and makes other peoples want to fight back. Go figure.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:08pm“Paul is having such a big impact on the race that some Republican operatives are convinced that he will play spoiler in important states, siphoning votes…” blah, blah, blah…
Don’t really need to finish the quote… basically what it mean is during the primaries… support for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama in the long run. Gotta’ love those thrifty Liberals who support Paul.
Report Post »Beck Avoids Ineligibility
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:29pmVotes for Paul during primaries don’t effect Obama. Unless you think the debt is cool, and like your fiat (monopoly) money just keep on doing the same old thing and you will keep on getting the same old thing.
Good luck with that.
And now for something completely different…
Want to hear what Rush had to say about Obama’s ineligibility, that Glenn was too chicken to report?
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:33pm“basically what it mean is during the primaries… support for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama in the long run. Gotta’ love those thrifty Liberals who support Paul.”
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….but yet you’re willing to throw your support behind the other liberals that the GOP keeps trotting out!
That’s hilarious!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:42pmPaul will not be the eventual Republican nominee, so I’m sure that all you Paul supporters will be doing the right thing and voting for whoever that may be right? RIGHT? Lmao… like I said, support for Ron Paul will be a vote for Obama, just as it was in 2008 with the voting for Bob Barr, or write-ins for Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin?
Report Post »Crickets
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:56pmWe happen to think your vote for McCain was a vote for Obama.:)And a slower,more dangerous progressivism.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:59pmYepImaConservative
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 5:42pm
Paul will not be the eventual Republican nominee, so I’m sure that all you Paul supporters will be doing the right thing and voting for whoever that may be right? RIGHT? Lmao… like I said, support for Ron Paul will be a vote for Obama, just as it was in 2008 with the voting for Bob Barr, or write-ins for Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin?
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Sounds like you‘d be better off switching your vote to Ron Paul in the primary then if you don’t want Obama to serve another term…
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:34pmOkay, I will make a deal with all you Ron Paul supporters. If Ron Paul becomes the eventual Republican nominee… I will vote for Ron Paul without hestitation. I am a man of my word. I want Obama beaten.
Now on the other hand… if Ron Paul doesn’t win the Republican nomination. How many Paul supporters are going to vote for whomever the nominee is to beat Obama? Hmmmmmm?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:26pmI promise you, I‘m writing in Ron Paul’s name.
If you get 4 more years of Barry, then you got exactly what you deserve.
We have staying power.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:47pm“We have staying power.” Like a cold sore? Of course a Paulite won’t vote for the eventual Republican nominee… but at least you’re an honest Liberal lite.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 12:12amPeople are so blinded by what they have been told by the current right wing establishment talk show hosts that they are TOLD what conservatism is all about instead of looking to our history. You calling Ron Paul a liberal lite (or the person who’s voting for him) shows your absolute disconnection with the Constitution. All these so-called conservatives preaching about what the founders wanted when it’s convenient for their agenda. But as far as I’m concerned, you either follow the Constitution fully, or you trample it, picking and choosing what suits you best.
Report Post »Would you call our Constitution liberal? Ron Paul is the closest thing to a founder we have in our generation and we should be thankful. Check this guy out just a few months ago (before Israel became his entire life’s work)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyI1EC5i2U
I know you’ll love him!
V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 11:09amNopeYou’reANeocon
It‘s more like a wart that you can’t get rid of. The false left-right paradigm is over.
You lose.
You vote for the neocon nominee, you get 4 more years of Barry the Tyrant, because independents and libertarians will be voting for Ron Paul.
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