This Graph Says an Awful Lot About the So-Called ‘Recovery’
- Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:29pm by
Becket Adams
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Lately, we’ve been hearing a lot about “the recovery” and lot of arguing over who’s to blame for its supposed slowdown. But before we got too bogged down in who’s responsible for retarding economic growth, maybe we should first look at the data.
Without one word of explanation, Harvard University econ professor Greg Mankiw posted the following graph to his blog:
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
As you can see, the shaded area indicates the recession and everything to the right of that is the so-called “recovery.”
Huh.
So, was this what the White House meant when it said we’re moving in the right direction or should we just not read too much into the data?
(H/T: Hot Air)



















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Comments (279)
pwatkins
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:19amBlame Bush for the slight rise before 2008..lol. We are going in the right direction alright…most voters are moving to the right, laughing at those on the left like Debbie Washedout and Obama. A few democrats are waking up too that I’ve talked to.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:20amThat is so telling (the chart) isn’t it??? The DEMS took Congress in 2006. That pretty much explains it all.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:15amThat’s what I was going to say. Democrats took Congress and job opportunity went off a cliff.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:51amAnd i bet government employment, shot way up, along with welfare , disability and food stamps……. Maybe the democrats should raise the minimum wage again like they did in 2006……..and put all the teenagers out of work…….
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:10amThe cause for the destruction of prosperity is sin, a Christian nation corrupted by sin will be judged.
Report Post »Christians have failed to be salt and light. The solution is to get on your knees individually and as a nation and repent. God wants to forgive. God wants to bless. America has chosen to live for satan and vote in vile evil wicked leaders. Don’t be discourage Christian. Your home is in heaven. This is just a strange land and foreign country for you and I. We are headed to paradise. The graph is a graph showing God’s judgement, a inverse graph of sin in America, and a graph of the beginning of the end. Christians need to be looking up and be prepared. Jesus Christ will be coming.
000degrees
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:36amGet your feet off of our desk you disrespecting poser!!!!!
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:08amIt’s even more telling to use his data (available at research.stlouisfed.org) to look at this and other recessions back as far as 1948. We’ve not only flat lined, but, as everyone already knew, this so-called recovery has been the most tepid in at least 4 decades.
Report Post »In the best of all possible worlds, data like this should define the results of the next election.
not funny
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:17amI thought the same thing when I saw the photo on this article. How disrespectful to have your feet on the desk in the Oval Office. Does any executive do this?
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:36amDon’t forget, he insulted England by giving back the bust of Winston Churchill. And he never explained why and no one held his feet to the fire to find out why. I hope England gives it back to us. But he has no respect for the US so why would he respect the desk of William Henry Harrison? Why would he respect the bust of Churchill. He migh as well set an ash try on the desk and leave it with cigarette burns. He might as well of thrown the Churchill bust in the landfill.
ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:08amTo really understand the chart, you need to look back to 2001. Under Bush, there was steady growth, until the democrats took over, and then within 2 years they had wiped out over 6 years of growth, add the 3 years of Obama, the democrats have taken a time of great growth for America and turned it into an 11 year period of no growth.
Report Post »Jesus.H.Christ
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:22amThese boards are hilarious to read for a Brit like me. There is so much hatred and racism on here that the website should be ashamed. America has a growing reputation for being dumb, and these boards go out of the way to confirm it.
America isn’t great anymore, and that hasn’t happened since Obama was made president, the wealth disparity continues to grow, your healthcare is for rich people only, and tax cuts for the rich and wars have ruined your way of life, yet you still want to let right wingers continue.
I hope you have a republican for the next 20 years, so you can grow out of your trickle down dogma, and get back to the ideals of your constitution. Conservatism is a religion, and sticks to it’s belief in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
What an absolutely insane site this is. Sorry for interrupting, I’ll let you guys get back to your hatred and racism.
Michelle44
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:32amI fear the worse, and pray for the best.. Don’t know what to do any longer..
Report Post »Part of me feels he will be reelected no matter what,, They want a new world and destroying the US is just a liability that can be sacrificed…
panache
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:35amDon’t read too much into this. After all it only states facts…..
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:49amHi Jesus.H
So you posted ad hominem and hatred in order to condemn Americans as being dumb and the idea of free markets as being dumb? You clearly have no real life experience with America, if you think our health care is “for the rich only”. Please, either learn to communicate in a civil way using actual facts that you have experience with or have at least confirmed through independent sources unlinked to your own cultural bias against freedom, or you’ll be soundly mocked.
Slainte.
Report Post »mersey
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:08amA wise Democrat (ok, he isn’t wise, but everyone gets something right once in awhile) once said, “Everything that’s up should be down, and everything that’s down should be up.” Do your country a favor. Take hold of a Useful Idiot Democrat and shake them until they wake up. Their ignorance is destroying this country.
Report Post »Shifty6
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:10am@JHC.
Report Post »You have Top Gear. Thats it. And you have bad teeth.
mersey
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:12amJesus H. Christ, having lived in England for four years, I know for a fact that America isn’t the only country full of hatred and racism. Look in the mirror before judging others.
Report Post »madjack
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:18amWe always hear “the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.” The reality is, they won the mid-term elections in 2006, but gained control in 2007.
With that in mind, take notice of when the decline from the peak employment started…
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:24am@ jesushchrist: Sorry. The last thing we need is a Brit telling us about our Constitution. This coming from a country with a “Royal Family”! Didn’t we show you once that our Constitution is far superior to anything you guys could envision over your thousands of years in existence?
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:29am@ JHC
One of the best lines I have heard lately was from a retired shop foreman at the old
Republic Steel Plant in Cleveland , Ohio when a young black kid was being laid off.
The black kid said to the shop foreman,
“You‘re firing me because I’m black!”
The foreman thought a moment and said,
“No, we hired you because you were black. We’re
firing you because you are useless.”
We Elected HIM Because He’s Black,
We‘re Voting HIM Out Because HE’S USELESS!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:38pmHow about the 31k Marylanders who have left their State for greener pasteurs? I wonder how many of them were rich Dems wanting to hold onto their earnings. Maybe now they get Obama. Maybe now they can see what exactly he meant by socalled HOPE and CHANGE.
His policies are tearing this country apart. We should have been well past the 08 crash by now! They made it worse by papering over it. The only blame I give to Bush is that he wanted the stupid bailout money and went along with it instead of saying no. I know why he did it, because he knew that the crash would happen right on his watch and did not want to literally hand over the country in that state in which he surely would be blamed for it which he was anyways in the end. He took actions to kick the can down the road and hopefully far enough that it would not appear to be his fault. I’m sure he factored into his logic that once the Dems got control of the economy that they would wreck it anyways and this would give him more distance….neither was the case….he should have trusted God to deliver on this monumental decision to bailout the country. Now we all must pay for this decision and now the decisions of Dear Leader who felt he had breathing room to further destroy us with debt and then blame it on Bush.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:40pmThere will be no lame duck session because Dear Leader will pull this thing out. Just watch and learn!
Report Post »SavvyCowboy
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:32pm@PATTY HENRY – Right on! Right on!
Report Post »k8ti
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:56pm@ the British guy! You have no idea what our country is like, or what Conservatives want for it either. American still is great, and still much better than your country! I‘ve met a few Brit’s that moved over here (legally) for a better life because they CANNOT STAND the way the their home country is now! They HATE the socialized healthcare, they hate that all their right’s have gotten stripped from them, they hate the liberal idiots (like yourself) that have ruined the country….so they moved to the United States of America, and then tell us we need to get Obama out of office immediately because they see the same horrible policies that ruined their country starting to creep their way into ours! They tell us to not let what happen to their country happen here!
So your a liberal British guy who doesn’t even live here….why do we American’s care what you think? Your country went down the tubes because of liberals like you….and that‘s according to all the Brit’s I know that have moved here to the USA!
Report Post »rockribbedrushy
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:41pm“These boards are hilarious to read for a Brit like me.”
All those who care to, should go read the Daily Mail and their legion of JHC’s who regularly tar and feather those who dare to disagree with their loony left wing opinions.
PS who really cares what you irrelevant NuLabs think of us, the US.
PPS go see what extreme political correctness does to the government and civil society
Report Post »Wu Ming Ren
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:30pmHUEY6367, [Thanks for your service] It hadn’t occurred to me that Obama might leave cigarette burns all over the White House furniture, carpets, and flooring. Indeed, I can actually imagine him snuffing out his butts on portraits of presidents with whom he disagree, especially that of Bush the Second. I hope someone does a thorough job of checking the unit for damage. God knows I’ve had plenty of landlords give me the “white glove” treatment in an effort to keep the security deposit.
SWAMPY, Bush could have used his veto more often with that Democratic Congress. I can’t remember how many times I sat there listening to the crap the Democrats were pulling and screaming, “Use your freakin’ veto, Bush! Where’s your veto pen? Just say, ‘No!’” I wrote a lot of letters to Bush & Company, all to no avail. It occurs to me that by giving in to the Democrats perhaps Bush was hoping for cooperation on the war front.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:07pmI’m sorry….J H C….but umm….how’s Greece, Italy, France, Spain, Ireland and Portugal working out lately? You know..those bastions of socialist ideals? What’s that? They’re broke? But how did that happen? After all..didn’t you just say that “trickle down” is a failure? Oh and how’s that NHS going for you in Great Britain? It’s great until you get sick right?
Report Post »oldguy199
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:16pmWant another graph???
Report Post »http//data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
dublinthewagons
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:08amLooks steady to me. We are close to the bottom and staying there. Well until after the election. That’s when he puts a wooden steak in out heart.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:25amIF he is reelected, we will look back on these years as the good times….It may get a lot worse
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:26amUnfortunately, this graph also says a lot about Romney’s campaign so far. He should be killing Obama in every poll.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:06amCongress and Obama are preparing to flood the government with legislation and regulation during the “lame duck” session after November 6th.
Debt Ceiling increasing (mentality of “total collapse” if we do nothing being exploited)
Tax Cut extensions (with restrictions and concessions by the GOP to Obama – he is blackmailing them)
and a host of other Progressive-Marxist policies and Federal regulations…
we need to toss out the Marxists in both parties in Nov…..and hopefully have men and women with spines that will IMMEDIATELY overturn all the “lame duck” crap….
as for Romney’s polling numbers….remember…those registered to vote are split into thirds right now.. Independents are a little more than 1/3 of the population… Rep and Dem a little less…but some of those Indies are actually Socialists, Marxists, Communists, Greens….
Report Post »Most of the undecided’s are probably libertarian minded people who are unsure of Romney so we are getting this 45-45 split with Obama-Romney making it look like Mitt isn’t doing well..Obama is maxed out in the polls…he already has his 45% that are going to vote for him…
hopefully the 10% of the Indies that are almost completely libertarians will get their head out of their ARSES and go with the guy that gives them 70% of what they want instead of the man that gives them 30% and then will take that from them once he is reelected…
WAKE UP!! your RP dream is dead…
jman-6
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:48pmI had a wet dream last night! Went like this ” this nightmare we’ve been living for the last 4 years was just that a nightmare” Then sadly I really woke up an reality sat in!! Soooooo sad
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:10amMakes ya wish Jimmy (goober) Carter was back. Huh
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:31amIn Ancient Egypt… your Name & Deeds were considered to be The Book Life, and amplified your Soul in Heaven… so Pharaohs ran around, placing their Name & Deeds upon everything. And, if a Pharaoh was considered Bad or Evil, after death, they would destroy the Images, Name, and Deeds… as if to undo a Bad Time!
I am saying: Shame on us, if we cannnot Undo this Evil!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:58amIt’s going to take at least a year to get his damned foot prints off every piece of furniture in the White House!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:43pmHe didn’t even wipe the elephant dung off his shoes.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:26pmand the polls should reflect the same, but go figure. We’re dealing mostly with morons now days.
Report Post »FreedomfromLibBots
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:24pmClearly this graph is racist!
Report Post »jettson
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:39amstupid
Report Post »angeleyes63
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:45am@FREEDOMFROMLIBBOTS
Report Post »Clearly. What else could it be lol?
Shifty6
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:04amThe graph acted stupidly
Report Post »bumfuzeled
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:59amIf O had a son, his unemployment numbers would look like this.
Report Post »Wethepeoplehavehadenough
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 11:58pmOf course it is …. just ask any democrat you know
Report Post »Skee
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:19pmLooks alittle limp. Maybe some more stimulus is needed.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:29pmOBAMA: Get your god d**mned feet off the Presidential Desk! It is a desk of great historical significance and honor!
But….what the hell would that half-breed communist know about honor? He was probably born in a BARN and thinks it’s a MANGER!
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:38pmSKREWED:
Report Post »simmer down…simmer down now. It’s just the Resolute desk given to Rutherford B Hayes by Queen Victoria in 1880. No big thing.
jman-6
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:42pmSkrewed-could u please refrain from Taking GODs name in vain especially in a sentence with O’Scamas! He does’nt rate that high if u know what I mean!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:19amI received an Email that‘s going around about this twit with his feet up on Our President’s Desk, Our President’s table in Our Oval Office, every thing he could put his feet up on he has done it. Someone reminded me that for a Muslim, that’s their way of insulting all of us…show us the soles of his shoes.
Report Post »Let’s show him the butt of our hands when we vote him out in November.
TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:26amGeorge W Bush with his feet on the desk.
http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834520b4b69e20133ec51b8bf970b-pi
Gerald Ford with his feet on the desk.
http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834520b4b69e201310ff7cbe4970c-pi
These are the ones that have been photographed with their feet on the desk. I’m sure there have been more.
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:19am@ TrueSoundsOfLiberty
When you take your last breath and zero out of life, you can explain your avatar to the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, your Judge at your trial for comitting the penalty of death having sinned in life and never accepted the Saviour Jesus Christ. The punishment for sin is the same punishment God gave His Son – death. I guess you want to pay for your sins. God will let you choose. He gave you the free will to decide on heaven or hell. He never forces anyone to accept His Son.
Report Post »God calls you foolish. “the preaching of the cross is foolishness to them that perish.” Holy Bible
teddrunk
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 9:14amFeet up on the desk? I‘m just glad he and the family haven’t pulled the couch out on the front porch along with that 55 gal. drum BBQ grill and bags of empty 40 ozers laying all over. Front window boarded over with plywood, and a ‘74 Coupe De Ville in the back yard, that doesn’t run, with 3′ weeds growing all around it.
Report Post »not funny
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:33amI am very disappointed to see this picture of Bush with his feet up on the desk. He, who did not want anyone in the Oval Office without wearing a tie, is showing disrespect for the Office that I did not expect.
Report Post »Truthmonster
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:15pmIf you turn this chart upside down it give you the exact unemployment, food stamps, welfare etc. FORWARD. What imbecilic WH braintrust came up with that jewel? 2012 Can The Clowns!
Report Post »TX .338 L Mag
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:10pm**“Cabbage Patch Dance”**
Go Bama, Go Bama….
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:02amObama should have his own Garbage Pail Kid sticker set….
Report Post »DesertRose1960
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:07pmThis graph is misleading. The EMRATIO is apparently the percent of the adult population who is current employed. It usually runs around 60, or 60% of the adult population is supporting all the retired, the military, those in prisons, those who are disable and unable to work. This graph runs between a high of 63% and a low of 59%, both of them are a little above and a little below the normal. By the way, Mankiw’s students walked out because he was presenting an unbalanced, and too based on Free Markets to help them undertand basic economic models. They specifically question the heavy emphasis on Adam Smith in the modern world.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:28pmROSE:
Why exactly is the graph misleading? My understanding is that it is a “representation” of the number of mouths to feed as compared to the number of workers. Nothing more really. The ratio is increasing so each worker has more mouths to feed. It’s how the progressives support more taxes for programs, housing etc.
RE: Adam Smith…I can see the sissies walking out at Harvard when confronted with references to capitalism.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:02pmHere’s a 60 year chart. We’re barely above the highs from nearly 60 years ago. Note that this is WORSE than it looks. It does not include baby boomers institutionalized that could be working, teens that are working but not counted as adults (head of households etc), military, and of course the millions of trespassers not included in the census.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EMRATIO/
Report Post »D-Fence
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:26amNever have we had such a precipitus drop than under this clown and chief, his house and senate. Yes we need to get rid of this Marxist, but the real prize this November is the Senate and to maintain the House.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:41pmWow, that really puts things into perspective. There have been several drops over the years, but they were always quickly followed by a sharp increase as the economy bounces back… UNTIL NOW.
Report Post »Coonrapids
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:00pmThese democratic monsters have tried to kill my country. Defeat this black baster-d and his supporters and save our nation, vote vote vote throw this trash on the garbage heap of history. How’s that hope and change working for you????
Truthmonster
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:56pmWell here is the truth! Read every word! The Liberals are grasping at straws the USS Totalitarian is sinking. The liberals are using another smoke screen to deflect real issues. It’s like the house is on fire and they want to argue about what the welcome mat says. They want a totalitarian form of government, the self-proclaimed, enlightened elite most of whom have never had a real job wants us to be lock step with them, give up hope, give up individualism, give up any freedoms we were founded upon. This is about imposing their ideology first and foremost. They want us to become a non-thinking collective walking in lock step. I hope you understand how important this is to not only yourselves but to your children and all the future generations. I never thought I would live long enough to see America destroyed from within. This may be our last chance register to vote, vote and vote sane. Win the Senate and take the White House and dismantle the webs that have been spun to strangle America. She does not deserve this”
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:45pmWell here is the truth! Read every word! The Liberals are grasping at straws the USS Totalitarian is sinking. The liberals are using another smoke screen to deflect real issues. It’s like the house is on fire and they want to argue about what the welcome mat says. They want a totalitarian form of government, the self-proclaimed, enlightened elite most of whom have never had a real job wants us to be lock step with them, give up hope, give up individualism, give up any freedoms we were founded upon. This is about imposing their ideology first and foremost. They want us to become a non-thinking collective walking in lock step.
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Kinda like JESUS H CHRIST the brit that just chimed in here a few minutes ago….
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:51pmA graph, really? Hey, I’m just a poor dumb American voter and there for I am going to need Daddy Obama or Jay Carney one to explain it to me. Duh, der.
Report Post »this1can
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:50pmIn Obummer eyes we are moving in the right direction. This was what he was taking about CHANGE and if I can‘t do it in one term then the people will catch on and I won’t get a second term. Obummer has done so much damage it will take years to fix what he destroyed in 3 1/2 years If it can be repaired at all. Love/Pray
Report Post »jman-6
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:36pmSadly we must pray for “OUR ENEMIES”!! They just happen to be within. Reminds me of Krushev coming to the U.N.”-american” and ranting about how he would sink this Nation without firing a shot by destroying it from within. Seems almost prophetic. Jeeeezz I HATE to say that!
Report Post »JohnDoeSr
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:35amThe repairs of Obama’s damage will be especially difficult because the usurper illegally placed two far-left Judges on the SCOTUS. Now with Roberts voting as a liberal there is a liberal majority. If Obama wins a second term the SCOTUS is totally his. If he loses then perhaps Roberts will return to being, sort of, a Conservative.
While I understand that being a Constitutionally required natural born citizen does bot absolutely mean allegiance to only America, Obama is overwhelming empirical evidence of why the founders of America included the requirement for president and commander-in-chief.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:50pmdemocrats had majority of both house starting in 2007
amazing how fast they killed the economy
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:43pmWhat ‘Recovery’ ? There is No ‘Recovery’……..
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:08pmThe Patient died in the Operating Room… but Dr. Obama had the body moved to the Recovery Room!
Report Post »jman-6
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:54pmLuker- exactly its like that movie where they take the dead old man around like hes still alive.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:06pmIt’s Bernie!!! Third time is a charm.
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:42pmAs they say the proof is in the pudding…anyone willing to give him 4 more years must have another agenda other than the recovery of the USA……..
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:41pm…as they say, the proof is in the pudding……..anyone willing to wager and vote him in for another 4 years has another agenda other than the recovery of the USA……
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:41pmJust proves what we already know to be true….. Obama has created no jobs….We have been in a depression for several years now….They lie to us about the economy,there is no recovery.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:51pmThe **** bag has created thousands of government jobs though so we have to give the Marxist POS some credit.
Report Post »DesertRose1960
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:12pmActually, there has been an informal freeze of Federal hiring. Unlike Reagan and other past Presidents, the rate of Federal hiring has been low and may have slowed the recovery because Federal jobs pay about the average income for the country and they have benefits. Oh, and we’ve had a pay freeze since 2010. And no, the average Federal employee does not make $150.000 a year. The average Federal employee is somewhere between a GS 09-GS 11, we make about $50,000, average income for the country.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:18pmAt the cost of our businesses….I had to close my home building co..22yrs of work to build this co..could not survive the Obamanation…All the Jobs went with it…..Took me 6 months to find a job,but I am working again..most of the builders went completely broke,But the criminal politicians who caused the housing collapse are rich…and they will never face punishment for their crimes..
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:19pmI understood the last jobs report showed an 11% increase in Federal jobs on POTUS’ watch…
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:34pmMCDAVE:
Report Post »I do believe the housing act leading to the sub-prime fiasco was criminal and folks should be held to account…starting with Dodd – Frank.
MCDAVE
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:54amINLIGHTOFTHINGS…YES Dodd and Franks for sure…But the list is huge.it includes many CEO:S of banks, top executives at AIG,stockbrokers,investment bankers,lots of democrat Politicians a couple of ex presidents… BILL CLINTON…who created the toxic legislation…and yes even Obama……..We would need a new prison to contain them all…All of these groups worked together to create the biggest conspiracy of corruption the world has ever seen..This crime has truly caused the economy of the entire world damage…Not one of them has been charged crime,yet they have damaged millions…
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:10amSickening to think poor Rose will wither on the vine without her 50k a year ane mucho bennies for being a professional slacker and malingerer. That Rose is where we have issues. If you aren’t on the border or in uniform, you are not needed. Unless of course you are building infrastructure-that would be kosher. Down with public unions and cut 2/3 of bloated fed empoyees and DC would once again be a place to take the kids.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:40pmI maintain the big money stopped flowing when the reality of McCain hit in 2008. The country realized what was imminent…40% drop in wealth for the average household, regulations, ACA, class warfare, hangover from Dodd Frank and the housing act of 1999 (sub-prime). A psychological lapse in confidence…
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:40pmIf you graph the morals of this Country the last 40 years, it would be over the cliff straight to hell.
Report Post »SFsuper49er
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:37amThat’s a fact… All you have to do is look at television
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:39pmI sure hope moral decent people recover the White House soon. A moral leader would bring God’s blessing to this Country. Right now we are faced with wicked vile leaders who have brought God’s judgement to Amierica. R. Paul who most dispise is the only moral candidate running. O’ well. More of God’s judgement for 4 more years. Wonder if His judgement will include being nuked by Russia?
Report Post »75andkickin
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:27pmI believe Romney is definitely a moral candidate. You may not agree with Mormonism but it is a straight-laced and strict religion to its followers. I’m not Mormon, though I had an aunt I dearly loved who was, and I respected her and her family greatly. As I do Mitt Romney. Your Ron Paul is not the only God-fearing, God-obeying candidate. He‘s more like the candidate who isn’t, since he withdrew from the race. You’re better off supporting one candidate that the majority of Obama dissenters support and help to guarantee a win for Romney. A vote for Paul is a vote, in the end, for Obama, due to the way the Electoral College will weigh the votes.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:38pmWecome to ObamaVille!
Report Post »Paul
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:30amKinda like Clintons “Hooterville ?”
Report Post »Shifty6
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:05pmWhat? I thought Clinton’s was a HooterSville. That makes more sense.
Report Post »ilovetheusa1
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:38pmwhen did the Dems take over the congress, oh yeah that’s right, 2008. just like the chart shows
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:41pmPelosi reign began in 2006…
Seattleman
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:54pmYep. They took control of the House and Senate in Jan. of 2007. Of course the libs like to ignore that fact…
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:30pmSeattle:
Report Post »I should have clarified, the 2006 elections…thx
progressiveslayer
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:37pmYes from the perspective of the Marxist POS president we’re moving in the right direction,in the crapper.This is all being done by design,it has to be this way because this is how you fundamentally transform America.I heard a skinny Marxist POS say it prior to the election and this is the promise he kept.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:05pm@ progressive I don’t know about you,but I am tired of being criticized for supporting Ron Paul ..so once again we have to choose the lesser of two evils..Some choice,a socialist or a communist…I am still hoping for a good candidate on the independent ticket…The logic in voting the lesser of two evils no longer works for me…part of the reason our country is in such a mess…Been a republican all of my life,but my party has abandoned me…
Report Post »Gums
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:24amMcDave – We criticize Ron Paul groupies because you are idiots. Observe: “Some choice,a socialist or a communist…I am still hoping for a good candidate on the independent ticket…” <— This is the crap you idiots say all the time and it is beyond stupid. You are trying to be ideologically pure while you bizarrely throw your vote away because you are too lazy and stupid too see the glaring fact that we have the choice for, in many important ways, diametrically opposed candidates. On one hand we have an anti-American and on the other we have a pro-American. We have a backstabbing communist interloper with a biography based on pure fantasy (Obama) and in stark contrast we have a Mormon, Capitalist, who regardless of his policies in Massachusetts built an business empire. Ron Paul IDIOTS are dumber than ********. You know full and well that you are doing nothing less than burning the only chance we have to salvage the United States — something that is worth dying for — your vote you are choosing to throw it away for nothing. I have zero respect for you and I never will. In fact I despise you. All of you. o_o
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:34amMCDAVE It does get old hearing the idiots non stop attacks and an example is the moron below your post.They say we’re idiots for supporting the only candidate who adheres strictly to the constitution,well sign me up for that,I’ll wear it as a badge of honor.
Romney is a crony capitalist who‘ll simply perpetuate the welfare warfare state but if we try to explain that to so called conservatives their usual retort is you’re an idiot or a Paulbot,that’s quite a rebuttal of our argument I must say.I’ve been a republican all my life as well but I believe we have a one party system now,I call it the big government party and Barry will make it much worse if he‘s reelected and Romney won’t be able to reduce the size of the beast if he wins since he’s a crony capitalist.
Report Post »conserve
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:31pmM problem with Ron Paul is two fold. The fact he wants to pull all of our troops home which has been tried and did not work it brought us WWII. The other thing is the fact in all his years in congress he has never written a bill that has passed. If he can not get his fellow congressman to vote with him now how could he as president? It is a illogical folly to think he could accomplish anything.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:43pm@ GUMS …You say you despise me…you never met me…..I’ll vote how I please… Remember, lots of Idiots voted Adolf Hitler for chancellor of Germany…I won’t vote for Candidate because popular opinion says I should…..
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