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Thousands March in New York to Celebrate and Support Israel

Thousands March in New Yorks Celebrate Israel Parade 2012

Children participate in the Celebrate Israel parade in New York, Sunday, June 3, 2012. Thousands of Israel boosters waved blue and white flags as they marched up Fifth Avenue on Sunday for the annual Celebrate Israel parade. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

Thousands of Israel supporters took to Fifth Avenue Sunday for the annual Celebrate Israel Parade, marking Israel’s 64th anniversary, including New York’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Senator Charles Schumer. NY1 reports:

Organizers call the parade the world’s largest public gathering to celebrate Israel, and many city and state officials took part.

“Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. We have the right to practice our religion and say what we want to say because young men and women have always answered the call, and that’s true in Israel and true in America,” said Bloomberg.

“Israel faces probably the greatest threat she has ever faced, which is a nuclear Iran,” said Schumer. “And today we are urging all of the western powers, including our own government, not to budge on the sanctions until Iran fully gives up nuclear weapons.”

Last week, The Blaze reported on complaints that progressive groups, including the New Israel Fund (NIF), who have in the past supported or funded organizations promoting boycott Israel efforts had planned to march in the parade. This is just the latest chapter in the larger debate within the Jewish community over what constitutes support of Israel, and how far one can go in criticizing the policies of Israel’s democratically elected government and still be considered an Israel supporter.

A source on site at the parade tells The Blaze that there was a very small group marching with the progressive contingent, which passed through without incident, despite a well-organized opposition to their inclusion in the parade.

A parade source says:

Every group that marched in the parade had previously publicly stated their opposition to the global BDS movement. And several very left groups had even denounced BDS in helping to defeat a boycott-Israel effort at a food co-op in Brooklyn [which The Blaze previously covered] – demonstrating a distinct move towards center (at least on one issue). There were no political signs allowed for any groups and that was enforced.

A source close to parade organizers tells The Blaze that they made the point that groups favoring the boycott in any way would not be entitled to participate. Parade organizers believe because the New Israel Fund’s official policy states it opposes and will not fund “global BDS [Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions] activities against Israel,” it should be allowed to march and show its support for Israel.

Additionally, according to the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv, the New Israel Fund has stopped funding the boycott-supporting Coalition of Women for Peace. However, NIF’s website states that while it will not support or fund any “global BDS” activities, it does not rule out grant applications from groups that support a boycott of goods made in Israeli settlements in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria).

Ben-Dror Yemini, a columnist for Ma’ariv lauded the New York parade’s inclusive spirit:

So even if the claims made against the NIF in New York relating to its activities in recent years are founded, there is no need to push the NIF out. Certainly not at a time when the fund is, at the very least, trying to be part of the camp that supports the State of Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people.

Despite the outcry of those protesting the controversial progressive groups’ participation, a wide spectrum of political opinion joined together in common cause. For one day at least.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:28pm

    …
    Most Jewish people I know, seem like really intelligent, wonderful people, until it comes to their voting record. They mostly vote Democrat. I’ll never understand why.

    In my opinion, a vote for any Liberal Democrat, is like a vote for Hitler.

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:54pm

      Boggles the mind

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:26pm

      @LEADNOTFOLLOW:
      “a vote for any Liberal Democrat, is like a vote for Hitler,” you said.
      Wrong.
      Liberal Democrats hate Capitalism, Nazis didn’t.
      Nazis hated Jews, LibDems don’t.
      Jews gravitate to Socialism, because it is rooted in their pre-Biblical (pre-Torah/Talmud) Kibbutz mindset.
      Non-Jewish LibDems also gravitate to Socialism.

      Thus, Jewish voting for LibDems is actually voting for their own mindset, for bringing closer Socialism.

      You comparison with Hitler is a thoughtless cliché injected into your brain by Commies and…guess who? pro-Jewish propaganda that hates any comparison of any Evil with Socialism/Communism so dear to them.
      If you compare something bad with Socialism, then you’ll unavoidably recall that many Bolshevik top leaders who committed heinous crimes against humanity were Jews, and this undeniable fact will then definitely overshadow a blessed image of victims of Holocaust.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:54pm

      Leadnotfollow-agreed I cannot why they vote for those that stand against Israels best interest? A vote for Obama is like sending the jewish people back to Hitlers death camps.

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    • klg1956
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:16pm

      And, Hitler got the Mufti’s (Muslims) to help round up and kill the Jewish people and then the Jewish people vote for the guy who has a Muslim name, has a Muslim father, went to a Muslim school in a Muslim country and was raised in a dominant Islam religion and society where he said he was not a Muslim….he‘s the closest thing we’ve ever had to a Muslim in office…go figure! But then, the Jewish people believed that Hitler was just rounding them up for their own good, taking them to a camp for their own protection, making them shower for their own health…..and you wonder why they vote for a Muslim? Obama said he had traveled all across America, that he’d been to all 57 states (there are 57 Islamic states in the Islamic Conference)…..he was tired and it was a huge slip of the tongue that went largely unnoticed and unreported to the American public, like everything else about Obama.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:27pm

      @Daver in Arizona:
      “Don’t you mean the turmoil caused by ARABS not Jews?” you said.
      It depends on where you start counting from. It’s like a puzzle: what was first: egg or hen?
      The State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948, on the territory that Arabs knew as Palestine since after suppression of the Bar-Kokhbah revolt (132-135 CE). That name was given by Romans to the South Mediterranean sea coast, where tribes of Israelites were inhabiting before the uprising only a part, less than a half.
      So, Arabs (Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq) refused to accept the UN partition plan and unleashed a war on Israel actually at the same day, May 14.
      Everything thereafter was a “response-to-response” chain, where it’s impossible to find the first or the last link: Arabs honestly think that Jews took from them their, Arabs’, land; Israelites honestly think that they have got back their Promised Land that was not in their possession 2000 years.
      Thus, it’s an unsolvable situation, unless you manage to force one of the sides to accept the opposite side.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:52pm

      @CONSTANTINE
      LIB-DEMOCRATS hate CAPITALISM?
      You need to call HARVEY WEINSTEIN ASAP
      He supports Obummer 200% and makes a TON of MONEY with his movies
      or
      BRABRA STREISAND???
      Another Jew who supports Obummer.

      OMG 2012

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:14am

      @GEORGIEJO:
      Ask all those morons – starting from Hollywood sluts and pimps (don’t forget to include Michael Moore) and ending with all those Wall Street and IT giants (like George Soros, Sergei Brin, Mark Zuckerberg, late Steven Jobs) – all those politically/ideologically insane (better to say – mentally retarded) individuals are strongly against Capitalism.
      For they know not what they are doing…
      All those cretins (they might be geniuses in certain fields, like computer, money, sex in public in Hollywood) are against Capitalism…because it is fashionable; the elite vogue is to be for Socialism.
      And of course, that idiocy is being permanently injected in their drug-and sex-addicted brain by professional Commies, like Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Frances Piven, Noam Chomsky, the Diaster-in-Chief, etc.
      For they know not what they are doing…
      As soon as they established what they want, they will be, as Putin said, hung by their balls (females and homosexuals included)

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    • blackyb
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:28am

      Those Jewish should vote Conservative or we cannot help them. If Obama the Muslim smoozer gets back in we cannot help the Jewish state of Israel because Obama does not have the heart for it.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:56am

      WHERE ON EARTH did you get that Early Jews were like Socialists? There has never been any teaching from OUR GOD (you know, the GOD who created Heaven and Earth) that spoke in terms of SOCIALISM. OUR GOD urged us to help the helpless that doesn’t mean handouts for the lazy. I have an idea, if I may: Israelis have been through so much stuff that they sympathize with people who are down trodden. ALSO: Many of the Country Club Owners (who knows why? I mean the Kennedys were Shanty Irish, so were the rest of the hot shots) Refused admission to the Jews…so they said S. U. and either had their own clubs or went to the DEM party. What they need to understand now is that the DEM party nowadays is the party of ENSLAVEMENT and ANTI-JEWISH/ISRAEL. God wants us to be Charitable..but not forced to give away what we’ve worked for..it has to be voluntary…other wise….it’s not an action of our FREE WILL. Coppice?

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    • tomtom1983
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 2:09am

      (constantive-ivanov)

      Sorry, considering such liberal groups like Code Pink supporting the Muslim Brotherhood as well as the WhiteHouse and State Department backing such support in the guise of financial aide contradicts your comment. Oh and lets not forget the brotherly love by the liberal democrats in OWS, such obvious demostrations speaks otherwise in their supposed supoport for Israel. I am also uncertain to this “pro Israeli” propaganda you speak of? The majoritive of propaganda is against Israel not for it.

      And Nazi’s did not favor capitalism, how could they with no free government and despotic rule of one individual. I dont know where your getting your information but I’m sure it had liberal origins. And the only Jew turned sellout was George Soros, who benefited from his atrocities against his own people. I agree that there is no similarity to Hitler or Nazi’s but liberal democrats supporting Israel is completely false.

      Liberal democrats only care when its beneficial to care other then winning seats libs dont care.

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    • hempstead1944
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 8:14am

      I have observed the same. It is an eternal puzzle why Jews vote Democrat for it hastens their own destruction.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 11:44am

      @PATTY HENRY:
      I assume that your “Coppice?” should make me believe that you know Italian, right?
      If “yes”, then it should be spelled “Capisci?”

      As for “WHERE ON EARTH did you get that Early Jews were like Socialists,“ I would suggest you to read thoroughly ”Code of Jewish Law” Y.D. 250:1; Numbers 26:54; “Maimonides” Jubilee 13 (social laws concerning the Kohanim and Levites); Halacha that contains clear stances on social issues…

      Also, it would be very useful to study Moses Hess; Ze’ev Zhabotinsky, Lubavitcher Rebbe, zy”A, in the Yiddish Forverts in Nisan of 5723/1963; Norman Podhoretz; history and roots of Zionist Socialist Workers Party, of Jewish Socialist Workers Party, etc., etc.

      The thing is not whether OUR GOD spoke in terms of Socialism or Capitalism; the thing is how the early and further readers of the God’s words interpreted them.

      Your “handouts for the lazy” is a sign of a typical distorted perception of the principles of Socialism.
      Socialism inevitably LEADS to laziness as a mass phenomenon, but its IDEOLOGY is strongly against it. So, you mix up the theory and the practice of Socialism.

      To me, both are very bad and unacceptable. But our Commie-lovers don’t know the difference.

      I agree with your “the DEM party nowadays is the party of ENSLAVEMENT.”
      But… Barbara Boxer, Diana Feinstein, Russ Feingold, Barnie Frank, Joe Liebermann, all those Democrats (and “independent Joe”) are “ANTI-JEWISH/ISRAEL”? I doubt.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:29pm

      @TOMTOM1983:
      I am not sure what is so contradictory between my comment (which one?) and the fact that many Socialism-oriented Jews (including one of founders of radical CodePink, Medea Benjamin) support Muslims? Their alliance is temporary, only as long as they have the same enemy: Western Capitalism.
      The same applies to OWS.

      “I am also uncertain to this “pro-Israeli” propaganda you speak of. The majoritive of propaganda is against Israel not for it,” you said.
      I was not talking about which propaganda constitutes majority. Pro-Israeli propaganda is everything from ADL and very powerful Jewish lobby.

      “Nazi’s did not favor capitalism,” you said.
      I said that Nazis didn’t hate Capitalism (do you hear the difference?) : even though they controlled many enterprise, they did not nationalize all industries and means of production, which is the main feature of Socialism.
      “I dont know where your getting your information but I’m sure it had liberal origins,” you said.
      It seems you don’t know many other things, as well.

      As of “liberal origin,” I thoroughly study all sources: I want to know my enemies in face.

      “the only Jew turned sellout was George Soros…” you said.
      Many more. Research!

      “liberal democrats supporting Israel is completely false,” you said.
      You amaze me: look at the title of this column and the photo.
      Who are those thousands marching in New York? Predominantly Jews, mostly Liberal Democrats.
      It’s a hard topic…

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 1:08pm

      You’ve seen the voting records of the Jews you personally know???
      How interesting.

      O,r are you suggesting you’ve seen the voting records of the Jews already in Government and are Democrat and obviously vote as such,but you don’t know them personally?

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    • Thomas Paine
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 7:07pm

      @Constantine Ivanov “Liberal Democrats hate Capitalism, Nazis didn’t.”

      REALLY?

      “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

      Adolf Hitler

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 8:34pm

      @ CONSTANTINE IVANOV
      Well, well, well. Seems we have another propagandist on The Blaze. Big surprise. I warned the Beck crew months ago that things were getting out of hand because they chose to moderate so lightly. So “Constantine”, do you believe your lies, or are you just propagandizing as a means to an end?
      Nazis weren’t against Capitalism? Right. The National Socialists party that had to compete for the support of the German left with the communists LOVED capitalism.

      We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions. – Hitler

      And if we ask who was responsible for our misfortune, then we must inquire who profited by our collapse. And the answer to that question is the “Banks and Stock Exchanges are more flourishing than ever before.” We were told that capitalism would be destroyed, and when we ventured to remind one or other of these “famous statesmen” and said “Don’t forget that Jews too have capital,” then the answer will now be destroyed, the whole people will now be free. We are not fighting Jewish or Christian capitalism, we are fighting every capitalism: we are making the people completely free.” – Hitler

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 8:59pm

      @ CONSTANTINE IVANOV
      But let’s just ignore the fact that Hitler, and virtually every top ranking official among the Nazis were fascist socialists. Let’s forget that Hitler and his top political cronies openly admitted among one another that they were competing for the support of the same “worker class” that the communists were competing for and their repeated – REPEATED OVER AND OVER – statements about how communism was just imperfect and corrupted socialism… Let’s forget that the group they were overthrowing represented a relatively free-market capitalist economy. Let’s forget that the Nazis were followers of socialist thought dating back to before even Marx (that’s right folks, socialism was around before Marx, and existed in the United States largely among the plantation owners of the South… suprised?). Let’s forget that The Nazis seized wealth, whether in the form of labor, knowledge, art, and/or material goods for the benefit of the nation and for redistributive purposes. Let’s forget that they socialized healthcare. Let’s forget that they nationalized industry all over the place. Let’s forget that they established workers rights in the form of working standards and wages. Let’s forget that real capitalists fled or fought the Nazis, or they were imprisoned or killed outright during the political purges of the Nazis.

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  • progoyim
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:19pm

    Would you keep somebody as a friend who for at least last 40 years has leached money and never paid it back and is a constant mooch .and caused you trouble with other people??? Then why do we keep Israel as a friend? The money would be better spent at home

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:30pm

      That means most of your DEMOCRAT Taker Class leaches, who never pay ANY fed Income Tax , should get more. Bull crap

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    • discus02
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:34pm

      We give billions to China yes China. The country we owe trillions of bucks to! We give billions of bucks to Saudi Arabia and billions more to Egypt. So wake up!

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    • RockinChuck
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:55pm

      @progoyim: do not reproduce you tiny brain idiot

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    • progoyim
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:24pm

      discus02
      Israel is the biggest recipient of US money and if not for the turmoil Israel has created we wouldn’t need to give money to Egypt or Pakistani or borrow as much from China SO WAKE UP !
      Not one dollar not one US life for the sand pit countries at the Eastern end of the Mediterranean

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    • progoyim
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:27pm

      Israel is the biggest recipient of US money and if not for the turmoil Israel has created we wouldn’t need to give money to Egypt or Pakistani or borrow as much from China SO WAKE UP !
      Not one dollar not one US life for the sand pit countries at the Eastern end of the Mediterranean
      Rand Paul rising

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    • progoyim
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:32pm

      RockinChuck thats the best you can do ? How sad
      13iman Rather Them than the leaching sand pit

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Politicians give foreign aid for a reason, to later receive money back for their relection campaign from the unused foreign aid that was given.

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:08pm

      Israel does pay us back, mostly, unlike the UN, the world bank, most of central and south America, most of Europe, assorted Stimulus recipients, the rest of the middle east, Africa, North Korea and China. Unlike the rest of the Middle East, Israel has made contributions in both science and technology, in the 20th and 21st centuries. The list of their accomplishments is not a small one.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Israel

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    • neoconenemy
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:17pm

      I’ll never understand this infatuation with Israel. I attribute it to 50 years of zionist brainwashing. Our relationship with Israel has been nothing but a negative. America is nothing but a meal ticket for the Israelis. They will keep using us as long as they get they perks with no consideration for the headache our relationship with them causes us. If they were really our friends they wouldn’t be syping on us so much. Our own pentagon has said Israel is the biggest spyer out of all our allies, does Jonathan Pollard come to mind? (Netanyahu wants him released by the way) Lets not forget the Lavon affair and the USS Liberty.

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    • Dave In Arizona
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:27pm

      @progoyim. Don’t you mean the turmoil caused by ARABS not Jews?

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    • Bellini
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:54pm

      The Founding Fathers didn’t only want to make a great country, they wanted to make a better world. After having seen the indescribable viciousness with which Europeans had treated the Jews, I think it was very much the American thing to do to support the creation of the State of Israel. After seeing the indescribable viciousness with which their neighbors are treating them, I think it’s very much the American thing to do to keep supporting them.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:32pm

      @Dave in Arizona:
      “Don’t you mean the turmoil caused by ARABS not Jews?” you said.

      It depends on where you start counting from. It’s like a puzzle: what was first: egg or hen?
      The State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948, on the territory that Arabs knew as Palestine since after suppression of the Bar-Kokhbah revolt (132-135 CE). That name was given by Romans to the South Mediterranean sea coast, where tribes of Israelites were inhabiting before the uprising only a part, less than a half.
      So, Arabs (Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq) refused to accept the UN partition plan and unleashed a war on Israel actually at the same day, May 14.
      Everything thereafter was a “response-to-response” chain, where it’s impossible to find the first or the last link: Arabs honestly think that Jews took from them their, Arabs’, land; Israelites honestly think that they have got back their Promised Land that was not in their possession 2000 years.
      Thus, it’s an unsolvable situation, unless you manage to force one of the sides to accept the opposite side.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:02am

      @BELLINI: (by the way, is Bellini your real name? Like a great composer…)

      “…it was very much the American thing to do to support the creation of the State of Israel,” you said.

      It is true, but only partially.
      The main (and “Machiavelli-like) role was played by Stalin who was pursuing four goals simultaneously:
      1. he actually wanted to get rid of Jews in the USSR (in 1931, he established an Jewish Autonomous Regiono n Siberia, with the Capital Birobijan), and since the establishment of Israel was mostly conducted by Socialists (1st and 3rd PM of Israel was Socialist Ben-Gurion; 4th PM was also Socialist Golda Meir),
      2. he used and instigated that movement to spread Socialism, and
      3. at the same time, using the economical weakening of Great Britain, he wanted to weaken GB even more by taking away the British protectorate and
      4. to weaken the Western control over oil sources.
      All that “Machiavelli” plan Stalin discussed with his Socialist “friend” Roosevelt during the Yalta Conference where Churchill already was not able to play any significant role because GB was drained of resources and only wanted to preserve its political influence by obeying Stalin’s words.
      As for Trumen, he only followed Roosevelt’s position, because he didn’t want to confront Stalin.

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    • blackyb
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 12:38am

      God said the Jews are his chosen people and those going against Israel are going against His people. It is not something the American people should do. I cannot understand why the Jews vote more on the democrat ticket because the conservatives have been the ones who try to help Israel. The democrats who are not of God must be doing it. There is no other explaination that I could think of. There are those who will not be counted with God in all groups. It depends upon their hearts. Those people have been indoctrinated and dummed down with the rest of the American youth for the last decades or so, no doubt.

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    • Bellini
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 1:37am

      @CONSTANTINE: You got it right, I’m a huge fan of Vincenzo Bellini, it’s just a nickname I took :)

      Your post is very interesting, I‘m not knowledgeable of Stalin’s role in the creation of the State of Israel, I will research it.

      That being said I disagree with some of your views:

      - Every democracy on this planet has elected several socialist governments through the 20th century; the US had one progressive and one socialist president before the Bolsheviks even took power, so I don‘t see Israel’s record as particularly exceptional or connected to Stalin.
      - There is compelling evidence that Truman personally believed in this cause and that he was a man of principle.

      Finally I must comment that I have good friends from the ex-USSR (I’m assuming that you are from there), and through the years I have observed that they have an incredibly Russian-centric view of history. With all due respect, I don‘t trust USSR’s historians all that much :) I think that the history of Zionism is quite complex, and please allow me to doubt that the creation of the State of Israel was all Stalin’s doing :)

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 3:00pm

      @BELLINI:
      Researching the Stalin’s role in creation of Israel requires an ability reading in Russian and an access to sources, which are not all available outside Russia. So, I presume your research will not be as fruitful as you may want.

      To your disagreements:
      1. “Every democracy on this planet has elected several socialist governments through the 20th century.” –
      Not every, but you’re right about the tendency.

      2. “the US had one progressive and one socialist president before the Bolsheviks even took power, so I don‘t see Israel’s record as particularly exceptional or connected to Stalin.” –
      I am aware of progressives Th. Roosevelt and W. Wilson (I’m not sure that Cleveland was also a progressive), but the establishment of Israel has nothing to do with those Presidents: the very idea of Jewish migration to Ottoman Palestine was formulated by Theodor Herzl only in 1897.

      3. “Truman personally believed in this cause…”
      Many docs show it’s not that simple (”The United States and the Recognition of Israel: A Chronology,” by Raymond H. Geselbracht; etc.). And it doesn’t change the role of Stalin.

      4. “…an incredibly Russian-centric view of history.”
      My view is not more “Russian-centric,” than yours – American-centric.

      5. “please allow me to doubt that the creation of the State of Israel was all Stalin’s doing”
      I allow. But it doesn‘t change the fact that Stalin’s role was the primary. -:

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  • Allieann
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:07pm

    Any Jewish person with family that was tortured, pinned into camps like, or less better than animals, and entire generations were annihilated, better stop and consider if they want to see that happen again. It was so devastating, don’t let history repeat itself. As a group, nationality, with such great intellect, no would be a very good time to begin to connect the dots. This election is the most important of our lives. The Democrats believe you will follow them right back into an unimaginable he!! hole. Do not allow yourselves to be victimized any further. Israel and Jews must stand with American patriots.

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  • AUsername
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:29pm

    where is their loyalty to America? they need to stop lobbying for a foreign country in our country.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:51pm

      How can you be certain they aren’t loyal to America? Have you met these people? Can you say with certainty that none of have served in the American armed forces? Can you testify that all of them have acted to the detriment of this country?

      Here’s a good question: Why do you not make the same inquiry of people who support the Palestinians?

      Better question: Why should someone be loyal to America? Loyalty, in my opinion, must be earned and deserved. I am loyal to ideals America was built upon: individuality, equal protection under the law, and freedom of conscious. If a country other than America embodies those values, would it not be hypocritical of me not to support that country as well?

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:09pm

      @tzion

      It would certainly be hypocritical of you to support the use of force against other people who may not support Israel to pay taxes in order to do so.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:28pm

      Two of you probably NEVER paid Federal Income Tax in your life. Tzion, surely you have. The other two are from the TAKER Class. Go Figure

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    • samiams60
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:33pm

      i am a jew and just retired after 24 years of active duty… in all that time i have meet zero palastinians and very few arabs.

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:36pm

      @13th Imam

      I looked pretty hard for a point in your post, but I couldn’t find it. I would appreciate it if you would reiterate it for me.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:27pm

      i don’t support the fakestinians either, its all war propaganda to, no war for islam, and no war for israel. our people should be living a lavish lifestyle before we even consider wasting money on them.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:53pm

      @slaves
      On that point you might be right. And for that reason I don’t support the giving of unnecessary foreign aid even to Israel, especially since I don’t trust US politicians not to use that aid as a means to control Israel the way they use handouts to control the recipients of those handouts. You people think that the reason we give money to Israel is because of Israeli influence here but personally I think the opposite is true. Our government gives foreign countries money to try and get them dependent on the US aid and thereby dictate their policies. Our government gives out foreign and domestic aid like an addictive drug.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 4:06pm

      @TZION:
      “How can you be certain they aren’t loyal to America?” you asked.
      Read Russian-language Jewish newspapers in New York and elsewhere:
      If Jews have to choose between a Democrat with a good program for America, but not much supportive of Israel, and a Democrat very much supportive of Israel, but with a bad or no domestic program, they PREDOMINANTLY will vote for the latter.

      “Have you met these people?” – Many: I’m living in a very Jewish area.

      “Can you testify that all of them have acted to the detriment of this country?” –
      Nobody says “all [of them]“; why necessarily “detriment”?
      Enough if “significant number” acted not to the advantage of this country. Examples? Soros, Piven, Ayers, Sunstein, Axlerod, Emanuel, Boxer, Feingold, Feinstein, Sommers, Bernanke, Mukasey, Paulson, etc.

      “Why do you not make the same inquiry of people who support the Palestinians?” – You’re right: such demands must be toward Palestinians as well.

      “Why should someone be loyal to America?” – a great question. I left the country, to which I was not loyal.

      “I am loyal to ideals America was built upon: individuality, equal protection under the law, and freedom of conscious. ” – are those the only values?

      “If a country other than America embodies those values, would it not be hypocritical of me not to support that country as well?” –
      if you imply Israel, are you sure Israel embodies the same values?

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  • Fitzzz
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:01pm

    I’M sure Debbie Wasserman Schitz was all dressed up in her baton twirling outfit, to march with
    NIF
    Perhaps she can appear on the Ed Shitz TV show, and tell his twelve viewers about all the good stuff Obama has done for Israel

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  • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:52pm

    March all you want the Dems still have the Jewish vote.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:57pm

      New Jewish vote poll shows slight gain for Romney

      Although Obama still enjoys overwhelming Jewish support, some Americans ask why Obama receives the lowest percentage in decades, of Jewish votes for a Democrat.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:14pm

      You know the rules here. Where is your link? Next your be saying Romeny has the Black vote too.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Which Jewish vote? Why do you leftists insist on grouping all Jews together as though we were one homogeneous group? Most polling data divides Protestant Christians into at least 3 groups which are subsequently divided into mainstream and evangelical. But you insist on grouping secular Jews, Reform Jews, Conservative Jews, Sephardi Jews, Orthodox Jews, Modern Orthodox Jews, and Ultra-Orthodox Jews into one concise category. Compared to many other polling groups, Jews split far more evenly because of this oversight.

      I happen to be Jewish and the Dems most certainly do not have my vote.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:29pm

      By the way, you didn’t post your link either.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:30pm

      jews are not single issue voters, Israel is the least of their concerns like every other voter they care about the economy and the republicans will not get them by bowing to Israel.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:31pm

      Look it up yourself END, do your own damn homework. This isn’t High School where the knucklehead to your left has crib notes for you to copy off of. Took me two seconds to find that particular nugget of info for you.

      As far as Blacks? Not while Obama has them in his pocket while continuing to do absolutely nothing for them. Can’t quite understand that concept. They (along with a ridiculous number of Whites) must like the fact that they’re being used. They don’t want to get off the Democrat Plantation “by and large”… just the way it is. I don’t see that as an indictment of Romney OR the GOP as much as it is an indictment of their own foolishishness (same as many foolish Jews and foolish whites I guess) and that Liberal indoctrination process that many of us seem to avoid…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:40pm

      @ tzion
      Sorry about that, my mistake I thought it was just a giveme. I should of know better. Hope you accept my dearest apology.

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/barack-obama-wins-77-percent-of-jewish-vote-exit-polls-show-1.256651

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:48pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Dont have to get all crazy! Ok ok i believe you. Romney has all of the jewish, black, spanish, welfare, union, gays, women, etc. votes ;-)

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Clarifying….I wrote (same as many foolish Jews and foolish whites I guess). Should be ” as many foolish Jews and non-Jewish Whites.”

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:57pm

      @end the GOP
      You quote a 4 year old exit poll as your proof that the Jews will support Obama again? Even that poll put Jewish support at 3/4 (and that’s only the ones who voted). Compared to the 95-99% support from blacks the Jewish vote isn‘t exactly in the Dem’s pocket. There‘s a good chance Obama will take the majority of the Jewish vote but winning the Jewish vote isn’t like winning California where the winner takes all. And compared to his previous numbers, Obama’s support among Jews has certainly fallen.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:33pm

      tzion
      I see you have changed the conversation from % of Jewish and black votes to the electoral college.
      Ok….2008 electoral vote was 365 to 173 That would be 68% to 32% somehow that seems like a lot more than a couple of % points of the Jewish vote. But im sure you know what your doing. Good luck.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:45pm

      LeadNotFollow
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:28pm
      …
      Most Jewish people I know, seem like really intelligent, wonderful people, until it comes to their voting record. They mostly vote Democrat.

      LOL

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:47pm

      yeah the GOP is stupidly trying to to put Israel first before america to get Jewish money and votes which doesn’t work.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:07pm

      Until just now ..I was thinking Time 2 end the GOP in 12 was the same guy as time 2 end Paul but had just changed names a little

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:11pm

      MCDAVE. ENDGOP and I are nothing alike. He’s an Obama supporter by hook or crook…

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:22pm

      Actually he was simply reiterating his point. If you look at recent polls (almost any of the major ones) that track the “Jewish” vote, you will likely find that, indeed, Obama’s percentage of that category has dropped sense last time (duh). Give or take the “Black” vote, Obama’s numbers are falling nearly across the board. He may even loose a percent or two in that category. Thanks to improved work by the states’ election boards, even the his zombi vote will probably drop off, except in Chicago of course (lol).

      Our esteemed commander and thief, will be retiring the the talk show and book tour circuit soon enough.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 11:03pm

      @ MCDAVE
      I can assure you we are not the same.

      I am the truth-finder, the web-builder, the stinging wasp. I was chosen for the lucky number.

      I am she who buries the traitors alive and drowns them and draws them reborn again from the water. I came from the one who voted but who was denied to vote.

      I am the friend of liberty and the guest of freedom. I am campaign-winner and burden-bearer and I am the victory-rider.

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:40pm

    the PEOPLE know who to support.
    If you aren’t sure, try this… Obama won a Nobel prize… the Nobel prize is world reknown, including by those left of center’ for recognizing excellence and efforts in improving the state of man (ahem… bear with me BG fans)…
    How many Muslim/ Arab/ Middel Eastern Nobel winners have there been… it’s ok, sum them together… even use a 3x multipler as arab, muslim, AND middle Eastern… i’ll wait…
    Now, compare that to the number of Jewish recipients…
    it’s a no brainer, gang.

    Now if all of those who marched just remember who they marched to support when they march to the polls in November. And for those of you who disagree, a note, the election this year has been moved to November 11…

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:38pm

    ” Iran truly gives up…” – funny!

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  • johnpaulkuchtajr
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:33pm

    Israel holds a special place in the hearts of all us wacky Tea Party Patriots out here. Could that be the case because our founders stated that the country was founded on Judeo / Christian principles?

    I do believe that Hamas and Hezbollah make a bold point when they dress four year olds in karate robes and parade them through the streets with plastic suicide vests strapped to their chests. I just embrace that sort of public display of passion for murder. I mean, being ready to see your sons and daughters blow themselves to Kingdom Come must be a very moving experience.

    No wonder that the lefties in this country find soul mates with those nut cases. The lefties love to kill ‘em before they exit the womb. They just can’t wait!

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  • chubby
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:23pm

    It’s about time that those of us that do support Israel were not afraid to show that support in public! Good Job!

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:16pm

    We really do out number those who hate Israel…I was astonished though that there were any in New York! And Bloomberg I don’t trust!! Wasn’t he the one who rooted for a mosque just a couple ofblocks from ground zero.. and recently trying to put a ban on Big Glps?? Doesn’t Mayor Bloomberg have bigger problems than Big Gulps?? Like NY’s debts..maybe if New Yorkers had a Governor like Christie or Walker they would actually have someone trying to do some real work!! Bloomberg is a laughing stock! Lord help us all!

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:59pm

      Even though he has lots of money, Bloomberg loves that foreign oil money campaign cash. Outfits like CAIR, ISNA and NAIT are just funnels for Saudi cash; and, all you have to do is look at Obama‘s decisions on Syria and Iran to discover who’s getting the mullahs’ spare change.

      America will have a chance to not only survive but flourish if we tell the lefties to go pound sand and become energy self-sufficient. No more foreign oil means no more kickbacks. To see all the Virginia politicians who have been corrupted by Saudi cash, go to muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com. Frank Gaffney does one hell of a job pointing out the crooks we have elected here.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:02pm

    Better than the pro Hamas crowd.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:24pm

      Your Messiah Ron Paul on Iranian TV in 2009 in so many words defended Hamas, suicide bombing, and bashed Israel. Good thing both he and Hamas aren’t there eh?

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:46pm

      and TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 joins in with QPwillie

      Surprise Surpise

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:54pm

      I speak for myself RECOVERING.

      QP speaks for himself RECOVERING.

      But, both of us combined sure do make you fools look like some hypocrites now don’t we? I happen to think QP has you guys nailed to a tee as I do, or else you wouldn’t be so “Liberal-atarianly offended” by either of us and what we write eh??

      Problem is… when Ron Paul finally goes away… you and your Liberally educated ilk still remain.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:17pm

      RECOVERINGNEOCON http://www.pjvoice.com/v32/32104paul.aspx

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:48pm

      both as radical as one another.

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  • Maxim Crux
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:57pm

    I support the United States and the Constitution in which is is founded on. Everyone else can fall in line behind that.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:21pm

      So you can only support one thing at a time, huh? I’m guessing you must be a Paulbot. They’re that way. That’s why they think Ron Paul is the only person on earth that can save America and that ALLLLLLLLLL the others are exactly the same. It’s a weird type of insanity.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:44pm

      qpwillie
      go willie go
      its a Paulbot kill kill kill
      He put America 1st, what a KOOK!

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:00pm

      @recoveringneocon
      What you are incapable of understanding is that we can put America first and still have other interests. It’s because your brain is not large enough to deal with more than one thing at a time.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:37pm

      nothing can stop the collapse coming but it matters whos in to make the new one.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:42pm

      QPwillie is right. Nobody forces me to prioritize my friends so why should I have to choose one country or idea to support? Your view is the source of the whole “Anyone who supports Israel is an Israel-firster” mentality. The irony is, people who think this way will likely be the first to cry foul when a foreign nation fails to come to our aid if we need it.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:02pm

      qpwillie
      My brain is just large enough to understand that you like forcing others to pay for your personal interest. Break out your wallet, grab your rife put in your hands or the hands of your own kids and get supporting and standing with whom ever you like.

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    • Maxim Crux
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:44pm

      Hey Willie, in my yard I fly the American Flag. I just happen to believe that protecting American values and the constitution is the truthful way to making sure those other countries that wish to remain free. It is called leading by example. If you want to move to Israel and join their military, they will be more than willing to let you die for them…their government that is.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:48pm

      Yeah! anyone who doesn’t is an enemy to America.

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  • LOJ
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:37pm

    Glad their voices were heard loud and clear…WE WILL NOT ABANDON ISRAEL..she is our friend and our partner!

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:35pm

    All for Israel? Until they do something “Leftist”, then all the Hitler comments, along with “They’ll never learn”…comes out.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:44pm

      How about all of the left wingers who want to eradicate Israel and kill off all of the Jews?

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  • CatB
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:29pm

    “, including New York’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg ”

    I hope no one was marching with a soda bigger than allowed under Boss Bloomy new rules ;-)

    Actually I hope they all stayed hydrated.

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  • Cabo King
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:29pm

    I‘am surprised Obama didn’t have them all arrested…

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  • 22AUTOMATIC
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:25pm

    Kim Clement did an “Israel is Forever” concert in September 2011, it was amazing. I didn’t go to Restoring Courage but did watch it on television and was blown away on how well it was put together.

    Here‘s a terrific short video that sums up Israel’s challenges vividly. Pass it on via twitter/facebook.

    http://youtu.be/ytWmPqY8TE0

    Here’s a parody of “We Are The World” that they did in Israel when much of the media was ignoring what was happening there and or praising Hamas (Fareed Zakara). A funny video though a serious subject.

    http://www.wejew.com/media/8629/Flotilla_Choir_Parody_-_We_Con_The_World/

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  • momrules
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:22pm

    I’m happy that the parade went forward without problems.
    I stand with God. I stand with israel.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:25pm

      Me also MOMRULES … need LIKE button!

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    • Want our country back
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:34pm

      Count me in. I SUPPORT ISRAEL.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:54pm

      When we stand with Israel, we are standing with the values of democracy, freedom, and human rights.

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:36pm

      By all means, please, go stand with Israel. I‘m sure they have some M16’s laying around for you.

      Oh wait, you mean you support politicians who will steal money from the people of this nation to send *someone else’s* kid over to stand with Glorious Israel.

      Yes, very noble of you. I’m sure God smiles down upon his courageous chicken-hawk children in this country.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:44pm

      SLAVES. Been there and done (that standing-with-them thing) while training with IDF back in the day on TDY. How about you? Heck, we even had our OWN M16′s.

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:01pm

      @Slave………Your savior will not save you but my Savior will and He said stand by Israel.

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    • philipzhao
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:08pm

      So do I !

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:19pm

      @Time_2_End

      Good for you! But the fact remains that you are still advocating sending other people‘s children over there at the expense of other people’s money, and that is wrong. I have no problem with people voluntarily financing such expenditures or participating in them personally, but I do have a problem when people would use the force of government to further their own agendas against the will of another man.

      And I wouldn’t participate in such expenditures, I have no ties or obligations to the sovereign state of Israel, only the United States.

      @Momrules

      Are you sure it wasn’t your Mr. Beck? I may have missed something in the Bible (assuming your savior is Jesus, if you’ll allow me that assumption) but if you could point out that part, I would be much obliged.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:38pm

      SLAVES. My daughter “volunteered’ for the Military same as I. If you volunteer, you accept all that may come with it. You don’t want to take that chance due to your conscience… then stay away from the Military as you can‘t always get what’s on your “dream sheet” of assignments.

      My daughter joined the Army right after 9/11 and did a tour in Bosnia and Afghanistan. My daughter has been a taxpayer all her working life, along with paying taxes while in uniform. Not once did she gripe about her tours of duty. She was a volunteer just like everyone is these days. No draft, no arm twisting. There are those of us who wouldn’t have a problem with going to Israel if needed either, so take that Libertarian horse crap somewhere else…

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:39pm

      i care about my country America if you love Israel so much move there and fight for it instead of getting our troops and tax dollars to support them.

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:39pm

      @Slaves………..I had read the Bible long before I heard of Glenn Beck and I let no man speak for me.
      Did you always feel the way you do about Israel or should I assume that you only feel this way because Ron Paul told you to?

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 7:52pm

      @Time_To_End

      Like I said, good for you! But you are missing the point. There are those of us who don‘t want to and wouldn’t, but we are still forced to pay for it. Why is OK for the government to steal money from us for that? How can you justify that function of the government? As I said, I have no problem with people volunteering for those endeavors, the problem is when you use FORCE to fund them.

      @Momrules

      You still haven’t shown me where in the Bible Jesus says “Stand by Israel.” I never said anything about Ron Paul, so I don’t know where you are getting that. You may not be letting any man to speak for you, but you certainly seem to be letting them think for you.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:04pm

      SLAVES. The only thing I can tell you then is that you are “free” to move to Andorra or stop paying taxes and move to the Gulch.

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:04pm

      @Slaves………As a Bible reader I am sure you have heard of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Don’t play semantic games.
      If you own a Bible I think you are quite capable of finding out God feels about Israel.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:13pm

      MAJASDAD. So, tell me where “I’m” going wrong regarding my opinion and give me your’s instead? I have MY reason’s for feeling this way, tell me why your opinion holds more water than mine aside from your Palestinian styled rock throwing?

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:19pm

      @Time_2_End

      Yes, what an intellectual, well thought out response: “IF U DNT LIEK IT THEN LEAV”. Typical. How well would that float if I told you if you don’t like paying taxes to support welfare programs and Obamacare, you’re free to leave?

      @Momrules

      While we wait for you to produce that quote, I’ll give you one to ponder:

      But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
      -Luke 6:27-31

      Perhaps if Israel had listened more to Jesus they wouldn’t be having problems with their entire region.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:31pm

      @ TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      I’ll post an excerpt from an article I read the other day that quoted Professor Oren Yiftachekl, professor at Ben Gurion University in Beersheva, Israel. He says it better than I could.
      ————————————————————————————————-
      [ These are just a few examples of what Professor Oren Yiftachel has described as an "ethnocracy":
      ”Despite declaring the regime as democratic, ethnicity (and not territorial citizenship) is the main determinant of the allocation of rights, powers, and resource ... [and] the logic of ethnic segregation is diffused into the social and political system.”

      In addition, all of this is without commenting on how, for 45 of Israel’s 64 years, the Jewish state has military ruled over Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza who do not even have the limited protection afforded by citizenship (while settling the territory with Jewish citizens).]

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:35pm

      SLAVES. Not a cop-out comment at all. Some (maybe you) believe that the individual States should be able to make ALL the rules with almost zero federal governement required except for national defense. Sooo, that means if you are a Conservative you may have to hop around this country continually to find a State that mirrors your values, or vice versa.

      Well, considering there is pretty much a stranglehold by liberalism in a crap load of States across this country and getting worse, that means those Libertarian enclaves in New Hampshire are going to over-crowd pretty quick eh?

      What I am saying is… if you can‘t or don’t like what your country as a whole is doing at this moment in time or in the future maybe regarding Israel and your tax money… you might be better off moving to a place that has none of that drama (the country of Andorra).

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:43pm

      MAJASDAD. Thanks for someone else’s opinion and explaination… along with taking the easy way out. I can paste 50 or more excerpts with an opposite train of thought.

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:50pm

      @Time_2_End

      Well seeing as that was basically the values that this country was founded upon, I feel like I am in good company holding those beliefs. The founding fathers were quite the intellectuals. You could learn a thing or two from them about intellectual discussion.

      Like I said, if I told you that if you didn’t like Obamacare and Social Security and Welfare and Planned Parenthood, tough, either pay for them with your taxes or go live in Andorra, do you think that would lead to a very intellectually stimulating discussion about the issue at hand, or would it just polarize the field and leave no room for intelligent conversation?

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:12pm

      Slaves……….I never get into scripture slinging contests whether with atheists or other Christians but I will direct you to the first book of the Bible, Genesis 12:1-3.
      You can have your opinions, I will have mine but Israel is God’s and I believe He means we should do more than just giving lip service support.
      For America to survive as a nation we MUST turn back to God and we must support Israel in every way possible.
      And with that I will say God’s blessing on you and goodbye.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Yes I know you and your’s have a monopoly on Founder thought. The rest of us are just rookies in the game of life, intellectualism and paying taxes for crap we don’t want. Heck, the Founders DID do a pretty good job didn’t they? Athough the drug crowd will tell us with “quite the superficial rationalization” that they were some alcohol drinkin‘ dope smokers’ and so should we be!! Well, the water is better now, and the true effects and chaos of mind-altering substances is better known. But those Hemp clothes were the bomb!!

      Different times my friend, different people we are. Those times are gone sad to say and will never be revisited no matter how bad you fantasize and wish it. This is a bigger and badder world with bigger and badder problems, and sometimes we have to be a good and righteous nation and not isolate ourselves from the chaos of the world which affects us in any number of ways.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:17pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      That’s nice that you trained with the IDF back in the day on TDY. But I would be more impressed it you would of trained with the American Sailors that served on the USS Liberty back in the day.

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:26pm

      TIME_TOO_END_THE PAUL_ CAMPAIGN…………….This is why I rarely engage the Paul supporters. My hat is off to you.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:32pm

      momrules
      Well how about we just say You win!! then. Grab that bible and rifle, it’s off to the Promise land with your @ss. **** I will even buy your one way ticket. First Class, only the best for the Chosen People and their supporters. I even pay for your kids MOM since your not taking mine. Fight Fight Fight Kill Kill Kill. I’m sure “Time” has a few grandkids to many H3!! I will buy theit tickets too. Anyone else? I will charter the whole D@nm plane. Come on everyone all at once FOR JESUS!!!!!!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:34pm

      Hmmmmm…. RECOVERING. More of that U.S.S. Liberty jibberish. I won’t even comment, but I do suggest you do slightly more research than what old Alex Jones tells ya’.

      As a matter of fact I’ve trained with many a fine U.S. Navy Sailor (excluding John Kerry of course) as well as doing joint training exercises aboard a few Navy ships/ vessels in my time. One of the best times I had was on the U.S.S. Trenton. Great experience! As we the Army said… FTA…FUN, TRAVEL AND ADVENTURE! As Ron Paul supporting Vets usually say… FTA… EFF THE ARMY!

      That‘s why I don’t take anything a Ron Paul Vet say’s seriously. Ohhh, you were writing about the U.S.S. Liberty. Try again rookie.

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:34pm

      @momrules

      I will make you into a great nation,
      and I will bless you;
      I will make your name great,
      and you will be a blessing.
      I will bless those who bless you,
      and whoever curses you I will curse;
      and all peoples on earth
      will be blessed through you.

      There is nothing about requiring all those who believe in an Abrahamic God are obligated to support the nation of Israel as established on May 14, 1948. I respect your beliefs and you have every right to support and stand by the state of Israel, but you have no right *whatsoever* forcing those beliefs upon another man.

      @TIME_2_END

      So you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation other than “Tough, if you don’t like it then leave“ and ”The old ways don’t apply anymore.” I suppose that is why you are a neo-con. Nothing conservative about you, all neo. I’d thank you for the discussion, but there really wasn’t much coming from your end. Feel free to make an argument with some form of logic to back it up any time, and I will reply and rebut to the best of my ability. I’ll give you my premise again, in case you lost track of it and would like a second shot:

      It is amoral to force others through taxation to support another foreign nation, either with economic or military aid because the interaction is not voluntary and therefore is no different than slavery. Those who would force others to pay for such aid through coercion such as taxes are no better than thieves and slaver

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:43pm

      MOM. I know you don‘t and that’s probably the best course of action because it usually turns into a circle jerk of ridiculous spin, insults, or an endless Ron Paul commercial by them which can wear a person out… especially when the calls go out for the rest of the tribe to jump in, lol.

      Me… I have made it my mission on The Blaze (as I have done elsewhere) to expose these Conservative frauds for exactly what they are… and take some enjoyment in doing so.

      IMO opinion, they are, or could be as harmful to this country as liberalism and Obama with his and their mostly nonsensical, definately non-Conservative Libertarian ideology. The only thing they have going for them is that they are penny pinchers. They squeak when they walk. Lol. And that one thing is there only salvation, and the only thing I can agree on with them. The rest is pure garbage.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:48pm

      Slaves_No_More

      “Time ”is a Trans Plant for NY yes the conservative state of NY. He went to FL bought a condo, got on the board and makes rules and regulations for the rest of the Co-Owner. In his spare “Time” he walk around the complex looking for violations, maybe like someone left their lawn furniture out overnight, painted their door the wrong color, or maybe even park the car crooked. you get the idea. “CommonSense” tells us to ignore him.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:49pm

      SLAVES. Awwwww, throw out the old Democrat talking point to save face…. NEO-CON! Lmao! You have just become as relevent as Ron Paul‘s progressive foreign policy idea’s IMO. Good night Lib.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:51pm

      how about you stand with your country instead otherwise move out!

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:54pm

      yeah lets stand with a fascist police state.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:58pm

      RECOVERING. Actually, I am a home owner living large right near the beach. You should come visit. I have a lawn that needs to be mowed on a regular basis. You can handle lawn care right, or would that break your delicate fingernails?

      Or, I can delegate some authority to you at my place of business (which I own and provide a handsome wage to my employees). I have 4 trusted people who I have delegated my authority to and have full confidence in their abilities as managers and mentors. They can start you with simple tasks like taking the trash out. How does that sound? You on board??

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    • Slaves_No_More
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:59pm

      @RECOVERING

      Yeah, it’s hopeless talking to these guys, they are so indoctrinated by establishment Republicans they will actually disregard the very foundation of the country and still call themselves conservatives. It’s sad really, if they would just sit for a second and think about their position from a logical standpoint, they just *might* be able to make it through the cognitive dissonance and realize that the Republicans and the Democrats are exactly the same, and they’ve taken the bait hook, line, and sinker.

      I mean, try as we might, all you can get out of them when you confront them is hand waving and strawman arguments. But I’ve made it my mission on The Blaze to keep trying, because even if 1 in 1000 of them actually breaks through the chains on their mind, it will have been worth it. Freedom is truth, and truth is power, and nothing can stop it, for this idea’s time has come, and these people are yesterday’s men.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:01pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      When the going get tuff the tuff get going. I think MOM is done going, got to tuff. That’s how the “stand with” crowd is. All talk and no action. Not you thou you’re the real McCoy…… “one of those big Irish lugs with hands the size of baseball mits and a scowl that would make a Ron Paul acolyte head for a floating Libertarian Island in absolute fear for his life.”

      OMG its as funny this “Time” as the 1st “Time” you said it. Thank you so much LOL!!!!!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:20pm

      RECOVEING. In my line of work and business, big hands are the norm. You have to be a big fella’ to get the job done… no pencil-necked Ron Paul internet geeks for me and my line of work.

      Btw, the girls appreciate the “big hands” if you get my drift? If you don’t, you are probably have hands that you keep hidden in your arm pits like Mary Katherine Gallagher on SNL… pulling them out and smelling for no apparent reason.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 2:57am

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Wow, congratulations, that’s the stupidest comment I’ve heard in ages. Everyone’s opinions stem from somewhere. Not even you can haphazardly pull your opinion out your butt, although it may sound like it. You Blaze fans incessantly blurt out bull***p and without listing a link, a source, or anything. You seem to think the fact that you’re in total agreement with Glenn Beck is proof enough of your credibility. If you’re preaching to the choir, maybe. Not so in the outside world, buddy. You asked me how you were wrong, I answered you by quoting a Israeli professor at a highly acclaimed University in Israel no less. If you can’t deal with hearing the facts, don’t get involved.

      Oh, just noticed that some a$$w*pe took down my original comment. It obviously seemed to hit a nerve. Oh well, the truth hurts I guess. So much for attempting a dialogue.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 3:20am

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      On the off-chance that someone might want to know what our bickering is about, here’s my original comment once again.
      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12:
      ” When we stand with Israel, we are standing with the values of democracy, freedom, and human rights.”
      Majasdad:
      Democracy? Hardly. Ethnocracy would be a more suitable term. Freedom and human rights? You’ve got to be kidding me.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 6:12am

      MAJASDAD. Seems “The Blaze” didn‘t quite like you’re “entire comment” which ended with the you writing… ” are you ~~effin’~~ kidding me?” Which you obviously left out this time. They must have not liked your version of the way you wrote ****** ?? Take it up with them.

      If you want to gripe about me blowing you off somehow? Sorry… you came to me with an ~~ effin~~ comment. I didn’t come to you. You didn‘t like my answer to some professor’s pasted words and not your opinion? ~~ Effin~~ tough.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 8:43am

      @majasdad
      So you‘re saying that someone’s opinion can’t be valid unless someone else said it first? In that case, where did this professor’s opinion come from? Oh wait that’s right, you‘re an intellectual supremacist who believes that only highly educated people who agree with your point of view are smart enough to know what’s good for everyone else. So naturally they are also the only ones smart enough to have original ideas.

      As for your quote, instead of actually quoting the professor, you quoted an article that quoted him out of context. Ever hear of using primary sources? Based solely on the information you put forward I can’t tell if the professor is referring to Israel, the PA, or possibly even Lebanon or Egypt. You didn’t even provide the source of the article.

      Lastly, as to your argument, many of your points are intentionally misleading. The Palestinians in the territories aren’t citizens because they have no desire to be citizens. Israel, unlike almost every other country in the region, allows for freedom of speech, trial by jury, and doesn’t discriminate based on sex. The only discriminatory policy I can think of off the top of my head is that some groups, Arabs included, aren’t required to join the Israeli military at 18, and there are many in Israel that wish to see that changed.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 10:45am

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:20pm
      RECOVEING. In my line of work and business, big hands are the norm. You have to be a big fella’ to get the job done…

      I had no idea what line of work and business, big hands are the norm in. So I googled it. “occupations that require big hands” OMG!!! Iit just keeps getting better with you or let me rephase that…….sicker. I got to say “Old Timer” your quite the Gas.

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  • Netsurfer2
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:21pm

    I’m so glad that someone is standing up for them! Our President has treated the leaders so wrongly, yet bows down to Muslim countries! Even a zebra will show it’s true colors with stripes!

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:21pm

    Here Rosie,Rosie,Rosie

    Can’t wait to see what RoseEllen says about this topic. My best friends wife is heading to Israel right now. God Speed. Asked her to bring back a little vial of sand.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:16pm

    I am all for them.

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:14pm

    God bless America.

    God bless Israel.

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:12pm

    Funny how the MSM covers 9 people protesting Israel, but even with these thousands rally FOR Israel, you won’t see the MSM covering it

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 6:00pm

      MSM??? Do you mean MSNBC, ABC, CBS. NBC.. notice they all have a C for crazy! Or is that cowards! ..

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  • Ira WIlson
    Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:12pm

    I stand with Israel! I’m so glad to see others do too! I hear a lot of support from friends and family… but seeing things like this really warms my heart!

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:16pm

      I love the, “I stand with Israel” crowd. They have rendered that statement meaningless.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 5:25pm

      MOD-they do beat it into the ground

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:47pm

      And Mr. Beck, who still has business interests in New York, was notably absent.

      First he announces he opposes selling armaments to Israel.

      Now he won’t even show up to a lousy parade.

      Mr. Beck isn’t standing with Israel.
      He is standing in the shadows.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 8:53pm

      “I stand with Israel!” means they are willing to send your kids to die and make you pay for it.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:30pm

      I stand with America and the American people and i wish our government would to.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 9:52pm

      Stand means, go to war with every country that isn’t freindly to israel, give our tax money to them, and our troops die for them instead of our country.

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:39pm

      Wow, who’d a thunk a simple statement could be turned upside down and bent inside out like that.
      GB doesn’t need to be in a parade. Israel doesn’t need very much more from us in the way of arms, a few large bunker busters would probably cover it. They mostly need us NOT to be in the way; and not leaking sensitive attack plans to the enemy. Is it really all that much to ask? Never mind answering. We have a president that wants them to go back to 1967 borders.

      Anybody who want’s to support Israel, Peace in the Middle East, and/or economic improvement in the US, needs to vote against Obama and for Romney.

      Taxes are too high, and going higher.
      Spending is over the top, and getting worse.
      Nearly all of our allies have been disrespected, by this administration.
      The world is rapidly becoming less safe.
      Our own country is rapidly becoming less safe.
      Some of our most basic freedoms are under attack, from this administration.
      The western world is headed for the worst recession/depression in modern history.
      If we don’t get our financial house in order, we’ll be leading the pack off the cliff.
      Obama’s never balanced a budget. Romney has.

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    • hypnos
      Posted on June 4, 2012 at 11:25am

      Mary WTF are you talking about. Explain your disjointed rant.

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