Thousands of Protesters Surround Wisconsin Capitol
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) – Thousands of protesters have gathered outside the Wisconsin Capitol for a fifth day of demonstrations on a budget bill that would strip public employees of most of their collective bargaining rights.
The bill has been pushed by Republican Gov. Scott Walker. Hundreds of his supporters have gathered on the east side of the Capitol but they are surrounded by thousands of pro-labor protesters.
The Walker supporters are shouting, “Pass the bill,” while the pro-labor group chants, “Kill the bill.”
Pro-labor protesters have already been at the Capitol for four days. Walker’s supporters showed up Saturday with signs reading, “I was at work yesterday. Where were you?“ and ”Sorry, we’re late Scott. We work for a living.”
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.
The birthplace of the progressive movement is crackling with a fervor not seen in decades, as students from the famously liberal University of Wisconsin team up with unionized state workers for demonstrations against changes to collective bargaining rights pushed by the state’s new Republican governor. The biggest rally yet was expected Saturday, along with an influx of conservative counter-protesters.
As many as 40,000 people swarmed the Capitol on Friday, raising the noise in its rotunda to earsplitting levels as they rallied to block Republican Gov. Scott Walker‘s efforts to ease Wisconsin’s budget woes by cutting many government workers’ pay, benefits and bargaining rights.
About 200 spent the night at the Capitol, and on Saturday morning, many walked around wearing signs declaring the protest peaceful. Several said they were concerned that the four days of violence-free protests would be disrupted Saturday when buses of tea party activists arrived.
Sue Anderson, 44, of Prairie Du Sac said she had been at the Capitol for three of the four days of protests was prepared to insert herself between people if a fight started.
“They know better,” she said. “I don’t know much about the tea party, but I know this group is pretty mellow.”
Beth Kiehl, 47, of Pleasant Springs, sat on a mat in the rotunda eating a breakfast bagel. She expressed concern that people were tired and punchy, making tempers short.
“It would be easy to lose control because you’re tired,” she said. “This could go bad really fast.”
Madison is no stranger to political unrest, having seen activists take to the streets to protest the Vietnam war, support civil rights and oppose cuts in social services. Riots ensued 15 years ago when police clamped down on an annual block party that began as an anti-war protest in 1969.
Some say this week’s rallies are unmatched in their sustained, impassioned energy—bolstered by Senate Democrats who fled the state to delay action on Walker’s proposal and threatened to stay in hiding for weeks if calls for negotiation go unheeded. One of those Democrats said Saturday the group had no plans to return over the weekend although they would meet outside the state later in the day.
Sen. Jon Erpenbach said Democrats want Walker to seriously consider a deal under which public employees would agree to pay more for benefits as long as they kept their rights to collectively bargain. The bill calls for the elimination of collective bargaining except over wage increases not greater than the Consumer Price Index.
Walker has said he would not accept that deal. A Walker spokesman said the governor was spending time with his family Saturday, but he didn’t say where.
Wisconsin Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said Saturday the bill was not negotiable and it would pass as is. He called on the Democrats to return to take up the bill and said the Senate could be ready to meet in three hours.
Democrats who stayed in Madison on Friday scored their own victory, forcing the state Assembly to adjourn until at least Tuesday without taking a vote on Walker’s bill. Republicans, however, have more than enough votes to pass the measure once the Legislature can convene.
State troopers were sent to retrieve the Democratic minority leader from his home Friday, but their knocks went unanswered.
“That’s jaw-dropping. This is uncharted,” said Mordecai Lee, a UW-Milwaukee political scientist and former state lawmaker who said he‘s been reminded this week of when motorcycle riders’ protest of a helmet law in the late 1970s persuaded legislators to overturn the measure.
The vast majority of the protesters who have for four days filled the Capitol with chanting, drum-beats and anti-Walker slogans have been union workers and their supporters. Protests were organized for Saturday by groups including the Tea Party Patriots, the movement’s largest umbrella group, and Americans for Prosperity.
Paul Soglin, a former Madison mayor who has been at the Capitol all week and spent at least one night on the floor, didn’t seem concerned about clashes with the opposition, saying he‘s been struck by protesters’ positive enthusiasm.
“A joy, yes, in the way people greet one another, the way they’re energized by one another,” said Soglin, who described himself as a veteran of more than 100 protests since the 1960s and is running for mayor again. “They‘re excited that even though there’s a grim prospect of the bill being adopted, that in the long run they’re building something that can be strong for the working class.”
Walker insists the concessions he is seeking from public workers—including higher health insurance and pension contributions—are necessary to deal with the state’s projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall and to avoid layoffs. Eliminating most collective bargaining rights will give state and local governments and schools flexibility to deal with upcoming cuts in state aid, Walker said.
Sarah Palin weighed with a Friday night posting on her Facebook page that urged “union brothers and sisters” not to ask taxpayers to support “unsustainable benefits packages.”
“Real solidarity means everyone being willing to sacrifice and carry our share of the burden,” Palin said in her post, which did not indicate whether she would join conservatives in Madison this weekend.
Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney predicted crowds could swell to as many as 70,000 people on Saturday and said his department planned to add 60 deputies to the 100 who patrolled during the week.
The throngs of protesters—including teachers, prison guards and many students—have been largely peaceful. Police reported just nine citations for minor offenses as of Friday. Schools throughout the state have closed this week after teachers called in sick, including in the state’s largest district, in Milwaukee.
The leader of the state’s largest public employee union said workers were prepared to discuss financial concessions but not to give up bargaining rights. Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin State Employees Union, said protests would continue until Walker agrees to negotiate.
But neither Walker nor the Republicans who took control of both the state Senate and Assembly in November appear ready to make concessions. Walker has called on Senate Democrats to “come home” and rebuffed a request to sit down with them to seek a compromise.
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Associated Press writers Scott Bauer, Todd Richmond and Jason Smathers contributed to this report.
Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Comments (371)
lamarwi
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:28pmI think it’s great that people want to express their views and show up to the rally, but for legislators not to show up to vote because they are afraid to lose is bad form.
I would be fired if I told my boss I wasn‘t coming to work because I didn’t want to do my job. What a bunch of cry-babies – Man up Wisconsin Dems and do your job!
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pmShowing up to express one’s views is all well and good, but when entire school districts shut down because all the faculty fraudulently called in sick disgusts me.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:50pmprogressives just proved they are children. If I don’t get my way I will leave – I’ll do whatever it takes to get my way.
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:28pmThe article should have said “Thousands of Protesters Surround Tea Baggers, All 5 of them”
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:44pmThat makes the collective IQ’s of both groups about the same
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:28pmI pray it does not get ugly. I pray for the Gov so he will stay strong! How I wish Iwas in Wisc to support the Tea Party!!
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:36pmWhat’s stopping you, big boy? Kentucky is a paragon of education. Wisconsin could use your imported intellectualism.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:14pmIf that’s where Dawg went to school, then he hits the nail on the head.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 11:39amdawg likes to throw the “boy” adjective around allot. What have you done dawg? Living in mom‘s basement and taking out the trash every now and then doesn’t make you a man. Neither does demanding that the government takes care of you. Real men and women take care of themselves and their families. Children, little boys and girls, demand that someone else takes care of all of the problems in their lives. Is that your mommy I hear calling?
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:01pmRick Rick Rick . . . I realize that bitter resentful men second guessing their choices and commitments in life have a tough time with opinions of others. I know you wish you’d focused on learning more than you did. Working a little bit smarter. Maybe spending a little less on your selfish interests and a bit more on providing a safe and secure future for your family. But hey, don’t beat yourself up. You got a really cool jacket with a “patch” and everything. So stand tall, fly your colors. And indulge in that make believe machismo that defines your way out of the deep and well deserved self recrimination that defines the American conservative movement.
(Sure, I could have gone off on some “mom’s basement/cheetos/government freeloader” rant, but it’s just so tired and unimaginative. What can I say, we liberals, we’re clever that way. But trust me, the next time I need to know how to chew or not chew Skoal, you’ll be the first person I ask.)
Anybody else feel like getting their butt kicked? Step right up.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 8:45pmDawg, I’ve beat your sorry butt so badly that you had to get your mommy to type your last missive. You are a sorry wimp, too cowardly to stand up for the country you proclaim to love. Your kind of love is more of a selfish, cowardly response to fear, letting others do the dangerous and hard work so you can flap your stupid lips like you really are worth anything.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:22pmI really hope that Governor Walker doesn’t cave in to pressure from the opposition. He has said that there is not way that he is going to concede this bill away, and I pray that he has the fortitude to see this through despite the petty and immature shenanigans of the Democratic Senators.
And if these workers don’t suck it up and get back to work, Walker should do to them what Reagan did to the air traffic controllers back in ‘81. There are plenty of unemployed non-union workers who would gladly take their jobs over.
And if these Senators don’t come home then they should be stripped of office.
Report Post »Barb1954
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:21pmParents should come together in a CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT AGAINST Union Teachers faking sick to support the protests. Any parent who had to fork out CHILD CARE for this should be PAID BACK for it IMMEDIATELY BY THE UNIONS!
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:21pmGroups of people who elected the run away Democrats are starting recall procedures. The people who vote in Wisconsin are the ones who rule Wisconsin. The visiting Union Bullies are in place to intimidate elected officials & embolden those who would truly take freedom away (ie: Chicago commies). Truth is screaming louder than the useful idiots who should be jobless come Monday AM.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:56pmIsn’t that just the icing on the cake! Run away? OK we the people put a process in place to un-elect you. Its beautiful really.
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:20pmDid anyone catch the Fox Lies guy? Priceless. Those words were not only all he knew but all he needed. Here’s more light to the dark.
http://www.spitefulcritic.com/home/10-most-ridiculous-fox-news-lies-creative-edits-and-half-truths
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:24pmFalls on deaf ears, BM. Everyone here has only one capability – contradicting themselves.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:28pmComing from you Bert, I’ll pass on wasting my time with it. Do you have a brain or do you rely on others?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:30pmIs that why you are trolling here Dawg, because you are a walking contradiction?
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:31pmSparky101 – you have no choice but to pass, because it indicts the idiots you listen to for your information. Stay ignorant, my friend. It’s a lot easier than thinking for yourself.
Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:08pmI’ve only heard from a couple of idiots today, you being the one with the largest mouth.
Report Post »OHFORPETESSAKE
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:20pmThe guy was shaking and foaming at the mouth. Much like the two of you.
Report Post »NYSTREETKID
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:19pmWe need to show that these GOP heros are not alone, Call, give them a shout out . write and say thank you for being bold. We must counter them man for man.march for march. sign for sign. We pay these bums wages, We can take it way. They WORK for us. our Taxes pay these bottom feeder. Shut off the cash.Maybe if we hold the same type of power as they do. “A Freeman guild”. A union of fed, State and local tax payer. not just a “Tea party”. A new congress of tax paying voters In the fashion of 1775. A New group of american son of liberty. Is this our Concord? We shall see
Report Post »stinkybisquit
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:18pm“Wisconsin Schools Go To Court To Get Teachers Back.” http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Madison_Schools_Prepare_For_Staff_Absences_116265614.html
Report Post »Isn’t that one of the points of SR5, so public union employees couldn’t pull a stunt like this?
Mister_Bill
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:18pmI heard that this battle is between the haves and the starving. Well I do not see why us(the starving) should support the haves (unionized public employees). For the year 2009 the average wage in Wisconsin was $40,560.00. In the year 2006 public employees in Wisconsin averaged 45,862.00. This is from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I feel so sorry for those elites. As they said in the 1792 revolution, If they do not have bread – “Let Them Eat Cake”. Guess the country and person.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:34pmWait…I know this one…
Ghengis Khan and Mongolia?
No, hold on, it’s coming to me…
Fred Flintstone and Bedrock?
No, that’s not it….
Wait…Marie Antoinette and France? :)
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:16pmSo what the commies are saying: “Our demonstrations will remain peaceful just so long as no one challenges our positions.” I noticed they are already dreaming up excuses, ‘we might be tired and make bad decisions’.
Report Post »I also take offense to these commies stealing the American Revolution for their own devices. The original revolutionaries stood for “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..” The Tea Party is more in line with the principles of the American Revolutionaries, not these commie impersonators.
dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:42pmYea, you’re all for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness – and protesting against the government – and making your views known in the public arena – and standing on your principles – as long as it’s not somebody else doing it. You’re a complete fraud and, frankly, you represent the kind of thinking that is destroying this great nation of ours.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:59pmRN MOM
If Dawg could read or spell, he/she/it would know that it is a Saul Alinsky way to claim that only real Liberals, Socialists, Progressives, Communists, DEMOCRATS ALL, were what the founding fathers stood for.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:06pmDawg, it ain’t yours. What branch of the military did you join to serve your country?
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:08pmHere’s to the pursuit of life, liberty and yellow-bellied Wisconsin representatives. Has anyone seen one lately? I understand that sightings are rare.
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:03pmDawg- I am not a fraud. You and your comrades are frauds. Prior to Obama you and your group has kept its actions to the darkest shadows, you knew the jig was up if you were caught promoting communism. You and your friends lied to the American public about the kind of politician Obama is. When you were called a communist before these uprisings, you said we were conspiracy theorists or crazy. Now that you have assembled your party you come out of the shadows and change your mode of attack against conservatives- and you expect anyone to tip their hats to you? Deception goes only so far.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 2:21am@dawg of gawd
Report Post »Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:42pm
Yea, you’re all for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness – and protesting against the government – and making your views known in the public arena – and standing on your principles – as long as it’s not somebody else doing it. You’re a complete fraud and, frankly, you represent the kind of thinking that is destroying this great nation of ours.
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Didn’t You get the message B.O. gave in all his campaign speeches in other countries, America wasn’t a great nation, but something to be apologized for when he was running for POTUS, evidently America was someone to apologize for long before the Tea Party began protesting; so as for “destroying this great nation of ours:,(((( Couldn’t be us, must’ve been Code Pink and all those other groups who did it before 08. ))))
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:16pmA Lot of Non Communist need jobs right now.Fire them.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:34pmIf only those non-Commies were qualified for something other than Skoal chewing.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:53pmAs opposed to the brilliant blood sucking leaches who expect the “skoal chewers” to pay their bloated salaries. Considering their incompetence and the poor results of their endeavors, maybe we need people who don’t consider themselves “brilliant” and elite”. How can anyone who does such a substandard job expect everyone else to pay their exorbitant salaries? Time for a reality check.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:04pmDawg is qualified to clean up the spittle from the Skoal Chewers. It pays enough to afford to pay his momma a little rent.
Report Post »drago
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:29pmMissed again there, homie g dawg, you dont chew skoal,and this old gun toting, flag waving redneck should know, then again, maybe you chew it…….
Report Post »ocelot113
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:15pm30,000-75,000? Just say you have no idea.
Report Post »tbolt71
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:14pmthis is gonna get ugly real fast….here we go
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:14pmStudents – tell me how you feel about this in 20 or 30 years after you have seen your wallets sucked dry.
As to the imported from other states union protesters – and the hired protesters from homeless places – here’s what you are accomplishing – you are making the public hate you, your union, and your self-designated “specialness” more than they already do.
Walker can‘t negotiate with the people who didn’t want to negotiate before. It’s time to pull the plug on unsustainable unions. We aren’t in a sweatshop country anymore – that’s been over for a long time. Compete in the workplace like everyone else. We don’t want to support obscene pensions. Look how unions cooperate – a non-strike zone and they walk out anyway. Yah – really cute.
And stop manipulating the students and kids into joining your adrenaline rally. Talk to them the right way and they’ll protest for potato chips. This is NOT their battle.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:13pmGovernor Walker…
Stay the course. It is the right one. If you don’t, at this point, the course is lost.
Put everything into this and stay the course. It will make history.
Report Post »swega
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:13pmSadly, these so-called “Pro-Labor” people are crying because the average taxpayer doesn’t want to, or isn’t able to, keep paying these nutcases salaries and benefits that the regular private sector could only dream of. Don‘t teachers always cry they don’t get paid well? Quit. Good luck on finding something that you’re qualified for and getting paid what you get paid now. There are some good teachers, but these idiots think way too highly of themselves. These are the people teaching our kids?! No wonder we’re doing down the craphole. “We’re for the children.” Liars. You’re only out for yourselves. Just freakin’ admit the truth — for once. For those good teachers, I have the upmost respect for you but maybe you should speak up too.
Report Post »mrzmac
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:44pmSwega, you are so right…this has nothing to do with “the children”…it has everything to do with fellow citizens thinking they “deserve” the right to take home their entire salary while others are taxed more to pay for the health benefits and retirement plans of the “deserving” class. I bet if some of the protestors understood that they will be made to pay more for cigarettes, getting nails done, going through the drive thru, toll roads, electric bill, etc so these teachers, that average somewhere in the 80K year salary range (with holiday/summers off), will be able to retire with a pension that pays 3 to 4 more times than social security and will maintain their health insurance for life, while they are stuck with Medicare/Medicaid we would see a significant drop in protestor turnout. Or how about the kids understanding they need to give up cell phone, internet use, cars at sixteen, etc as the taxes rise their parents have to pay…see how many stand and protest for these lovable teachers then. Collective bargaining is a scam…do your job, you keep it; you want a raise, earn it; don’t like the hours or vacation time, get another job; but stop expecting me to take care of you esp. in better style than what I provide for myself!
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:11pmVery well said SWEGA,granted most teachers take papers home with them to grade and such, but gosh dern it they get 3 months off in the summer, 2 weeks off for Christmas, a week off for spring break ,and they make roughfly 50,00 a year, i scatch my head and wonder what they have to bitch about,they are lucky
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:10pmToo funny, The anti-gov baggers are now supporting the gov. Koch Bros money well spent.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:16pm“Prove your statement big Bert”
Report Post »Ernie
RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:19pmThe Tea Party is NOT against government, we are against Big Bloated Government that regulates and/or taxes the opportunity for advancement out of the average person’s reach. Get it yet?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:22pmO’ Burnt, O‘ ****** and O’ Pelousy say, We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:26pm@ THEBERTMANLIVES
Report Post »Get your facts right & get off the bottle .
RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:39pmDawg- Your comment, littered with typos and grammatical errors, is priceless. It is almost as illiterate as your accusation of conservatives killing mid eastern babies. Too bad you and your commie friends, are surrounded by the famines and blood baths your way of life creates. And Dawg- how about the half million babies that the American Progressives have killed since the Roe v. Wade? Hmmmm.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:43pm@ DAWG OF GAWD
Report Post »You need to get off the bottle too .
Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:46pm“Don’t lie it” ? You must have attended a public school! You may even be one of the incompetent public school teachers.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:02pm“Now id we can just get…” Dawg, are you literate? What is your degree in? Oh, right, you have none.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 11:38pmOhhh you liberal kook, you still don’t get it even after it has been said over and over and over and………
[2 hours later] and over again.
We are’t anti-government you rube! We are anti- overreaching big government. Pull your head out of your fifth point of contact and get a clue. You fail chump, now slink away and try again when you get a pair.
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 9:40amIsn’t Bert the Gay one? Or is that Ernie?
Report Post »thefisherman
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:09pmThose who have abandoned their jobs…fired. Walker is doing the right thing. I support him 100%.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:15pmStand strong Governor Walker, the people are with you on this.
Report Post »ELECTIONS COUNT!
silentwatcher
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:08pmYou can bet the National Gaurd are being formed. But then, that is what the socialist are hoping for.
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:15pmIf you can spell Guard, Thank a teacher.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:20pmgot your point,,,,but was typing too fast.
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:21pmIf you can compose a sentence without grammatical errors, thank a teacher.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:23pmBert Man . . . priceless.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:24pmBurt, why the capital letter on “thanks.” What teacher do you thank for that?
Report Post »DRSAVAGE24
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:26pmHow clever….didn’t know government employees were the only ones capable of teaching. This bill is all about reining in the UNIONS. I doubt private school teachers are affected by this. The left is desperate to portray this as an assault on teachers but it’s not.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:28pmand thank you all for pointing out my typing error,,,,,cheap shot to someone on the same team…….why don’t you leave that tactic to the progs……..
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:30pmJust not a public teacher.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:32pmSparky 101 – Why no question mark at the end of your question? Home schooled?
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pmSilent watcher- The trolls jumped on your comment, I and others went after them… Look at Bert and his dog- they are trolls. I was responding to Bert’s ironically illiterate response.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:43pmHome schooled? Home schooled children consistently score higher on placement tests then public schooled students, as do private schooled students. Of course the public school teachers are paid a whole lot more. Incompetent fat bloated leaches.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:57pmHi Silent. Your error would have been overlooked except for Bert and his dog. I noticed they both are guilty of what they attempt to put on others. Hypocrites and trolls. It was them I was calling out, not you.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:32pmWouldn’t this be cool…….You are in 10th grade, you show at school monday morning and your teacher is a National guard!! Shows you how to field strip(insert current weapon here). Then since it is presidents day you learn about all the REAL presidents. A little target practice after lunch….whee!
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:40pm@ 338LAPUA I love your idea!!! The kids would learn more in one day with a Guardsman teaching them then they would all year from a liberal Public teacher.. and they wouldn’t have to put up with the teachers condescending attitude..I know a lot of teachers in CA.. and they, almost without exception, are condescending and look down their noses at you if you don’t have a college degree..I don‘t have a degree but I’m smart enough that I made it as high as I wanted to go in the Dept that I worked in..
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 2:03am@Rickfromillinois
Report Post »Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:43pm
Home schooled? Home schooled children consistently score higher on placement tests then public schooled students, as do private schooled students. Of course the public school teachers are paid a whole lot more. Incompetent fat bloated leaches.
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But since the last Congress told us that more tax money means better education, shouldn’t private schools, and the parents who home school be getting the bulk of our tax $’s for education?
CaptainSpaulding
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:07pmIf the voters and taxpayers lose this fight, I shudder to think what the repercussions will be. :(
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:27pmThe protestors are voters and taxpayers. Why so willfully obtuse? Wait, you forgot something, the protestors aren’t real Americans.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pmTaxpayers who demand that the rest of the taxpayers pay their extravagant benefits packages when the state is out of money. That is what it boils down to, when these greedy hogs demand that the state pays them more, they mean that their fellow tax payers.
Report Post »TrueGrit
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:57pmPlease folks…
the ‘Dawg’s’ bark is worse than his bite.
His master sent him to fetch some conservatives.
Wolverine
Report Post »starman70
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:58pm@Dawg of Gawd: You are absolutely right! The protesters are not true Americans. The majority of the protesters lining the Captiol steps and inside are Leftists, Communists, Liberals and other Union Lackeys. Truly NOT true Americans. Concerned with only themselves and not the general welfare of the state in which they work.
I worked for a company which has a retirement plan, which I now enjoy. All the employees contributed to the plan and the company contributed its part from profits (Profit Sharing). We also paid a part of our healthcare insurance every week and the company paid the rest. This is the way the majority of private companies and small businesses operate.
I object to the idea that government employees and teachers get retirement and health benefits for free, completely paid for by my tax dollars, no matter whether they are Federal, State or Local Government workers. Why do these people think they are better than employees in private industry? What gives their Union “representatives” the right to demand more benefits than the average American worker receives?
A large number of states either have very large deficits aor are on the brink of deficit spending and historically, those states have had Democrats in control for generations. This also applies to many large cities such as Detroit, Philadelphia, Newark, NJ and the list goes on. It appears that historically, Democrats have been guilty of gross mis-management and gross squandering of their states financial rescources. It also appears that these Democrat “Leaders” have totally abdicated common sense and financial responsibility and have caved in to the demands of these workers union’s demands.The biggest problem the democrats have is a lack of guts when comes to making the really hard decisions. They would rather buy votes with tax dollars.
Under the present circumstances, the government workers should be glad to assist with their retirement plans and healthcare and keep their jobs. That is far better than being laid off or have their jobs permantly eliminated. WAKE UP GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND KEEP YOUR JOBS!
Report Post »_waTson_
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 3:26am@Starman10 ~ Well put post. Thank you.
@DAWG of BLAH ~ you got WAYYYYY to much free rent space on this story.. Hang in there Old Boy and don’t forget to stock up on the Kibbles. You just never know. :]~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »silquin11
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:07pmI guess Obama read Hugo Chavez’ book he offered as a gift during the last meeting in Trinidad: filling buses with “chavistas” or oficialists from other states and dressign them in red tshirts to come and shout stupidities on his behalf is Hugo’s favorite and almost sole activity as a President…..Chavismo seems to have arrived in WI: what a thrid worldish and pathetic picture .
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 1:54amsilquin11
Report Post »Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:07pm
I guess Obama read Hugo Chavez’ book he offered as a gift during the last meeting in Trinidad: filling buses with “chavistas” or oficialists from other states and dressign them in red tshirts to come and shout stupidities on his behalf is Hugo’s favorite and almost sole activity as a President
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Wow! We finally found a Presidential Duty that B.O IS TOTALLY QUALIFIED FOR!!!!
BrerRabbit
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:05pmIf they took my kid out of school to support them and their communist tactics, I’d sue them.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pmThat’s what lightweights do – whine to some lawyer. Tort reform now! (No?)
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:39pmI would have them arrested for kidnapping and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:44pmYou always have your cell phone in hand ready to drop a dime on anybody who rolls a stop sign, right? Typical snitch mentality of the right wing extremists – always trying to get back at the cool kids who punked them in high school. Give it up, boy from Illinois. You don’t mind if I call you boy, right? I’m just calling a spade a spade.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:53pmSo Dawg, you promote lawbreaking? Are you just a slug that can‘t seem to follow what’s right? Can you not get along with others in the sandbox? Were you bullied? So sorry you weaker links had to go to school with brighter people. That hurt didn’t it. They should have had you in special classes with your own kind.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:04pmAh, a internet hero! Go ahead dawg, it‘s always easier to attack someone when you know that they can’t do anything about it. What a brave man you are. You are a man aren’t you? Have you moved out of mommy’s basement yet?
Report Post »As for the rest of your post……grasping at straws aren’t we? Somehow it is “snitching” if an adult takes your kid somewhere without your permission? Your not a parent are you? If by some sad misfortune you are, your children have my sympathy. I wonder how many mamba conventions you adult friends have taken your children to. As for being “punked” by the “cool” kids, your idea of what is “cool” must be distorted. There are many words to describe the union leaches in Wisconsin but you are they only one that I have heard of who would even hint that they are “cool”. Go back to playing your video games and comic books.
My Two Cents
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:16pmDAWG: “If you see something say something.” ~ Janet Napolitano
Typical snitch mentality of progressive extremists.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:29pmI agree. Using children as props in their communist endeavors makes me sick. Leave the kids alone. Most of the kids who are being bused in have no idea why they are there. It is truely a pathetic attempt at gaining sympathy. Unfortunately for them, most Americans are too smart to fall for this ploy anymore. Wait till they bring the kids out to protest defunding Planned Parenthood. Can’t wait for that!
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 10:59amOne last thing dawg, this boy is a disabled veteran and retired from the U.S. Army. I have been to war, been shot at and shot back. I have been married to the same woman for over 35 years, have raised 2 children and had a third die in my arms. I support myself, own my own home, and am not dependent on the government for support. What about you maggot?
Report Post »knotaclu
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:04pmthe line in the sand has been drawn. Stand firm Governor Walker
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:25pmWalker squandered a projected surplus. That’s what Republicans do. Squander.
Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:29pm“Projected”? Who’s projection? The previous administration that screwed things up to this point?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:36pmTax relief back to the people paying for the budget, is not squandering the budget. The government should never take in more than it spends, and never spend more than it takes in.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:37pmHow did he do that? He just got elected a few months ago. Nice try union troll.
Report Post »knotaclu
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:40pmgive me a break Dawg……seriously, wake up man….the Dems have ran this state for how long now and you are blaming the republicans….
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:48pmTo Dawg of Gawd: Walker has been in office for 6 weeks. He had to be a real spender to go through a surplus that fast. Maybe you should ask the DEMOCRAT governor who just left where the money is?
The real problem, unions need to buy democrats (oops, get them elected to office) to get the really high pay and benefit packages.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:50pmYou asked for it:
AP: Wisconsin Faces Shortfall “Due Largely To Anticipated Medicaid Expenses And A Court-Ordered Repayment To A Fund That Was Raided Four Years Ago,” And Walker’s Tax Policies “Actually Make The State’s Ongoing Budget Problem Worse.” In a February 1 article, The Associated Press reported that “[a] new analysis released Monday showed that Wisconsin’s budget could be between $79 million and $340 million short by June 30 due largely to anticipated Medicaid expenses and a court-ordered repayment to a fund that was raided four years ago.“ The AP further reported that tax cuts pushed through by Walker will ”make the state’s ongoing budget problem worse”:
In Walker‘s first month in office he’s pushed a number of tax cuts that actually make the state’s ongoing budget problem worse. The Fiscal Bureau predicted the state will collect about $190 million less in taxes over the next two years than previously thought, with $117 million of that coming from Walker’s tax cuts.
Further, the shortfall could have largely been eliminated by restructuring the debt.
But you’d all rather call the protestors communists. That’s the difference between liberals and conservatives. We respect police and firefighters and nurses and teachers. You respect idiots like Sean Hannity (who I hear is finally gonna get waterboarded for charity.).
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:55pm“protestors” Dawg? Go learn to spell and write, perhaps in a college course or two, then come back to swing paragraphs with the big boys.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:10pm@DAWG
lol .. “PROJECTED” … I project that I will win the lottery tonight .. so I should go out and by a Porche? Just like a Progressive … lost in dreamland!
Report Post »mrzmac
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:20pmWhere can teachers from all over America send their resumes to for a job in Wisconsin? Send your resumes and give Gov. Walker more leverage…get back to work or lose your job! This is unacceptable that these people are calling in sick and forcing schools to close. Will they collect sick pay, when will classes be made up and who will pay for the overtime of all the auxiliary staff that will have to work on those days due to the closing of these schools? And please remember when it is time to vote that these Democrat Representatives did all they could to deny Democracy in Wisconsin!
Report Post »thevamprn
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:40pmDawg, where does the info come from? Site your source.
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:29pmI agree with the line in the sand and a very brave Governor! Unlike the loser in the WH who supports the disgusting teachers! The unionized teachers have destroyed public education and have been doing it since the mid 70′s! If I had a child, that child would be in private schools and get the education they deserve! Public schools are the worst place to send your children to get a real education! This is coming from a retired teacher who quit teaching when the unions came in!
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:34pmDawg….what is truly funny is that you are refering to an AP article. Everybody knowS the AP is state run. Please, do us all a favor and read something other than state run media sources. Yeah and Kim Jon Ill shot 19 holes in one. FOOL!!
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:48pmDAwG of GawD:
Report Post »When you change the formula to change the numbers you can project anything you want. That is a fact of Statistical Analysis if you look at it a particular way you can get a predetermined out come. Clinton did the same thing with his “Projected Surplus” he changed the way that the Agencies recorded the debt and it made it look like a Surplus but any CPA will tell you that it never changed it only changed what you called it, he moved the Debt from one set of books to another, ie from the Public Debt to the Gov’t Debt and when he did that it looked good in the papers and in Campaign Ads but it functionally changed nothing but words, they do the same thing today.
hifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:39pmHey dawg I have a question for you and I mean this with the utmost sincerity…. HOW IN THE HELL IS A 3.6 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT A SURPLUS? Your a moron!
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:43pmBad Dawg….Bad, Bad Dawg!! No bone from Barny tonight!
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:37pm@dawg of gawd
“That’s the difference between liberals and conservatives. We respect police and firefighters and nurses and teachers. You respect idiots like Sean Hannity”
Funny you said that. SD FIRE AND RESCUE here, last time I checked I was not a registered Democrat :) I am though unfairly registered against my will in the teamsters. They rob from my pay check to donate to the campaign of the guy I vote against every 2 weeks. :(
UNIONS HAVE TO MUCH POWER BREAK THEM NOW!!
Hows that crow tasting dawg?
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:40pmDawg of Gawd
That’s the difference between liberals and conservatives. We respect police and firefighters and nurses and teachers. You respect idiots like Sean Hannity
Hmmm funny, I was a military police officer as well my family has all been military or police and many friends who were/are police officers. I have also known quite a few firefighters for some time and my sister and aunt are both nurses. Hmmmm I would think your baseless inane ramblings hold little water. I’m not surprised though, it is quite common for idiots to talk out of their @$$ and claim it as logical discourse. Try again chump, because you have only help show how much of a liberal kook you really are.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:45amhifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:40pm
Dawg of Gawd
That’s the difference between liberals and conservatives. We respect police and firefighters and nurses and teachers. You respect idiots like Sean Hannity
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Obivious each time a police officer is not charged when discharging his weapon in the line of duty, and we know every district where firefighters are attacked responding to false alarms is overwhelmingly coservative! We totally agree. That’s why Conservatives burned their own state down right! What you mean California isn’t a CONSERVATIVE STATE! LET’S ASK ARNOLD?
hifi74
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 8:21amYeah Mil Mom I agree, if you look back just a few weeks ago to the man who walked into the Michigan (which we all know is another HUGE liberal safe haven) police station firing at police officers, the riots in L.A., or the DNC riots in Chicago, and there are many other examples. The majority of the police, fire, and nurse “respect” oooooh so obviously comes from the bastions of liberal thought (choke cough choke).
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:03pmInteresting in that they say the matter could turn violent due to the counter protest of the tea party coming today, and at the same time declaring they know not much about the tea party.
Sounds like the union bossess are preparing for a escalation of this protest on their own part, and it will most likely be sparked by union thugs on the payrolls targeting some minority or women among the tea party groups.
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:04pmYep that is the media for us saying tea partiers are being violent.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Video Website
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:11pmYour on target Snow, that’s their style.
Report Post »I just hope no one gets hurt and the bad guys are caught on camera.
Creestof
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:12pmAll this because their “bargaining rights” (which means the losers will now be canned and the rest will have to meet some reasonable standards) are being stripped away…imagine what it will look like when the food riots come.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:14pmGo Wisconsin….isn’t it funny for the last few days all I see is violent rhetoric from the signs of these pro-union supporters…I thought we were suppose to knock all that crap off…guess it only applies to a certain few..Good to see people coming out in support of Governor Walker…
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:16pmSnow,
You know darn well that they will be trying to bait the Tea Party at every corner. I was watching the live feed and the Tea Party is doing what they do best, play in facts and be respectful.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:17pmThe P Party (pinko party) versus the Tea Party. I like tea better than P. We know the Tea Party is non-violent. We know the pinkos believe the ends justifies the means. If there is any violence, it will be Obama’s fault for getting involved in State politics by opening his flapper in support of socialists. It goes right back to the one setting the tone for our nation.
Report Post »realchange
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:24pmWhen to bill is pasted state employees are going to pay ½ of their pension and 12.5% of their health care. I pay all of my health care and all of my retirement savings. So can the unions start paying 87.5% of my health care cost and contribute 50% to my retirement?
Report Post »clockn63
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pmThe media will spin this in the direction they want. I know the tea party will be recording all over but will the media use their video? They cherry pick for their agenda and for the american thats not in touch with the world they will only see one side.
Report Post »We know and the media knows the tea party is non violent!!!! Let’s hope we can get the proof that everyone needs this time.
riseandshine
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:43pmcommie pinkos
Report Post »THENEWMCCARTHY
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:48pmForbes: Billionaire brothers funding anti-union protests to protect business interests: http://t.co/I7bWCkB
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:49pm@Sparky101 and sending in his minions.
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:52pmI love the “sorry we were late Scott, we work for a living” signs. That’s hilarious. I hope Scott Walker sticks to his guns on this. This is certainly only the first of many battles with the unions.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Get Hypocrisy Moving video
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:08pmI still say FIRE THE TEACHERS … we don’t need people like this teaching OUR children. The TEA Party should hold firm to their postions … don’t let them get to you ..
we had the same thing when Obama came here and we the TEA Party went to protest ..even though the Pro Obama and TEA we given seperate areas .. the Pro Obamas CHOSE to come over and try to pick a fight with us … we did not give into their taunts and lies … the TEA Party didNOT go over to them and do the same!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:09pm1) No government worker should be allowed to unionize. Unions allow inferior workers to maintain their jobs. This then becomes a public trust issue. We need more accountability in public workers not less. So unions should be illegal for public workers. Frankly all government employee protestors who took time off their job should be fired. Any teacher that brought a child to protest should be fired and prosecuted for endangering a juvenile.
2) This is an example of why I or my company will no longer buy anything union. As long as I have a choice I will not patronize any union product. If my company needs a contractor, my company will ask all bidding contractors if they use union labor and if they do they will not be considered. I feel unionized labor is vastly inferior to non unionized labor, so it’s my right to choose the quality of work I pay for.
Unions are evil.
athanasius1812
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:10pmDawg are you a product of public education? Did you seriously just defend your assertion that Walker has caused the shortfall by quoting an article that specifically states the costs come from Medicaid and raids that came 4 years ago. AP (cited by you): “[a] new analysis released Monday showed that Wisconsin’s budget could be between $79 million and $340 million short by June 30 due largely to anticipated Medicaid expenses and a court-ordered repayment to a fund that was raided four years ago.“ But then you follow that up with an AP opinion that tax reductions championed by Walker MAY result in less revenue, an assertion that is easily proven false by economic data gathered over the last, oh say 80 years or so, and in any case has no empirical data to back it up. Call us after the revenue goes down.
LOL, keep arguing. I don’t have all day to point out the idiocy of the left, but as long as you are willing to do it for me I won’t have to.
Report Post »thevamprn
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:38pmUnion thugs my dress up and hold signs like tea party activists so they can claim it was the tea party that started the violence. The radical ends justify the radical means.
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:57pmMatching and Meshing Personalities for Close Quarters Living
http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/02/letter_re_matching_and_meshing.html
Report Post »proudconservative
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:18pmThe unions, DNC, and the Obama administration are behind busing a lot of these protesters in from out of state. It is amazing what these idiots will do for free box lunches, tshirts and paid hotel rooms. The Tea Party protesters are doing everything on their own dime. The Governor needs to fire everyone of those greedy teachers and other union members who are putting their own selfish interests ahead of their students and the public who they are supposed to be serving.
I understand that there are several districts where the yellow bellied Democrat Senators are from who are filing the necessary paperwork to get their senators recalled. I hope they are able to do this successfully and then Governor Walker can either appoint new senators or hold special elections depending on which procedure is in place in Wisconsin.
Report Post »saviorammo
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:36pmThis will be great and needs to happen. Time for thse union cowards to try and muscle some old crusty vets from the First Mar Div. There ain’t no backup in those folks.
Bring it!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:51pmIt‘s interesting that actual real intelligence isn’t the message being broadcast by these actions and the people are completely unaware that they appear desperate and foolish by these actions. Not to mention manipulated and manipulative, like pawns in a chess game. Stupidity is the most common commodity of the human race. And when people come together in groups, like these in the cheese display, a metamorphosis occurs. The lowest common denominator is sought. It becomes what the ‘group’ seeks. Not some intellectual or moral high ground. The days of MLK are behind us. The days of Stalin, Lenin and Mao lay ahead.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:10pmHypocritical protesters line up on the street corners to get “fraudulent” doctor notes from leftie doctors saying that they are sick. So not only are they sticking it to taxpayers with outrageous benefits and wages, now they are forcing the taxpayers to pay sick days for them while they protest how unfair they are treated.. What a bunch of crap.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:36pmAnd now as I have been seeing on Fox, apparently they are now gaming the systems by giving out “fake” doctor notes for people. Presumably because by Wis state law the teachers and such are not legally allowed to strike without permission, so to keep up the farce they are calling in sick and getting the “fake” doctors notes.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:42pmOh I’m sorry Walkwithme I guess your getting old and your eyesight must be going because if you have been paying attention all of the hateful rhetoric in Madison has been coming out of the Union protesters, go away you vapid disease on society. You are nothing but a talking piece copying and pasting your media matters crap on this site. Go away troll.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:49pmhttp://www.infowars.com/nano-hummingbird-spy-drone-being-developed-by-pentagon/
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:57pm@ SNOWLEOPARD The Tea Party showing up is probably exactly what the Union (SEIU) thugs were hoping for..Hope everyone brings their camcorders with them and takes pix of anyone that starts getting violent..Did ya’ll notice the signs that had pix of the governor with a crosshair on his forehead? The Union people are NOT peaceful.. they are waiting for the signal to start something…
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:11pm@walkwithme1966
It is easiest to envision others hearts to be filled with what is in your own. What exactly do you see in the TEA party’s heart?
Statistically legal gun owners compared to the rest of the population are not only less likely to commit a violent crime, but any other as well including traffic citations. So you should pray every last one of them are gun owners. The odds of them disobeying the law and getting violent decrease significantly.
Report Post »WeveAlreadyWon
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:50pmThey want to provoke violence… they get $54 from the goevernment for every dollar they put into their pension fund.. sounds like they could afford to make a little cut there.. Obama has sent in his CRONIE THUGS FROM THE SEIU. What a great President….NOT!
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:56pmEvery one not a Wi resident leave! What one person left.
Report Post »SavvyCowboy
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:08pmGov. Walker needs to draw a line in the sand and if those commie teachers and union thugs aren’t back to work by Tuesday shifts, they should be FIRED!!! Walker needs to grow a pair the size of Reagan’s pair. I would’ve fired them this week – there’s enough unemployed teachers around to make up for the boneheads that get fired. Unions have NO PLACE in government employment sectors – no place any where if you ask me!!
Report Post »Rights of Man
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:10pmI wish the right could protest like this.
They just p*ss-’n-moan and listen to talk show hosts. Oh, yeah…then they go to work so they can pay the government off.
Keep turning the other cheek, Americans. Soon you won’t have a cheek to turn–the left will have already ripped it off.
The left gains ground, then defends it. The right loses ground and whines about it.
It’s a disgrace.
Previous generations of Americans risked their lives to defend sacred human freedom.
Today‘s Americans don’t want to risk missing their favorite cable show.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:25pmI suggest that everyone here that supports Gov Walker for what he’s trying to do, write him an email giving him a boost of support from we the taxpayer! He’s a hero for being willing to do what has to be done.
Somewhat related: My wife today finally figured out (she likes to mull things over, for a long time) part of why we the taxpayer should be upset at these Union jerks. Out of nowhere she excalimed to me that “we have to pay for our own health care coverage, so why the hell do we have to pay for theirs too?”. The truth is… we shouldn’t. Union Government workers make better money than their counterparts in the private sector so they should pay for their own health care coverage like all of us Suckers do.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:33amwalkwithme1966
Report Post »Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:00pm
I am not surprised that they are afraid of this turning violent – remember all the Tea Party members carry guns and it just takes one person with a gun to listen to the voices in his or her head to start shooting. You people have too many guns and you scare me!!
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Right, and you did such a good job of proving that it was a TEA PARTY person that did the AZ shooting, didn’t you.
Remember what the Giffords Shooter’s friend said he listened too and watched on the internet? Wasn’t Tea Party, was it?
jzs
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:36amOZZ, your statement that owners of guns “statistically” commit less violent crime needs some support. I think you made that up. Maybe you could post a link or some information supporting that position. Gun violence in the United States is among the highest in the world, especially if you exclude lawless countries such as Somalia. Seriously, where do you get that idea? More guns = less violence from guns? That‘s an assertion you’ll need to provide some evidence for.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 1:08amI think a lot of you forgetting that the First Amendment of the Constitution disallows infringing on the freedom of speech, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. The People have a right to protest.
The First Amendment was fairly simply and unambiguously stated: people with a common interest have a Constitutional right to organize and speak with with single voice. Despotisms can outlaw any group of three or more people talking, but we don’t do things that way in the United States. Three people, or three thousand people can express their common interest with a single voice. Are you with me so far? If so, Thirty thousand people have a right to petition the government as well, which is about the size of the crowd in Wisconsin.
The proposed law prevents two or more people from coordinating to represent their common interest. Tea Party people take pride in organizing groups of people to protest government policy. That’s a Constitutional right. Why is it that is so offensive when the protesters in Wisconsin are demonized for doing the same thing?
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 1:10amgetalong
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:10pm
Hypocritical protesters line up on the street corners to get “fraudulent” doctor notes from leftie doctors saying that they are sick. So not only are they sticking it to taxpayers with outrageous benefits and wages, now they are forcing the taxpayers to pay sick days for them while they protest how unfair they are treated.. What a bunch of crap.
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Report Post »Don’t doctors have to be licensed by the state they practice medicine in? Last I heard, a Dr’s excuse for off work, meant he was practicing medicine. I wonder if all those dr’s are licensed in WI and if they are, isn‘t issuing a dr’s excuse on a street corner, cause to have that license revoked. Somebody needs to help Gov Walker check them out.
Mil Mom
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 1:42am@JZS
Report Post »Tea Party people take pride in organizing groups of people to protest government policy. That’s a Constitutional right. Why is it that is so offensive when the protesters in Wisconsin are demonized for doing the same thing?
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The difference is that OFA is an administration run website. When the Federal Government (POTUS) organizes a bused in protest against a states properly elected representatives they are violating the Constitution, {Those powers not not delegated to the United States by this Constitution,,nor prohibited by it to the Sates are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people} (Amendment X, US Constitution.) the final part doesn’t say to the President! or his supporters. As said above, “Elections mean things.
1911a1
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 7:52amCatB
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:08pm
I still say FIRE THE TEACHERS … we don’t need people like this teaching OUR children.
Bingo !!!!!!! Fire every one of them ! no benefits, no nothing, straight to the unemployment line, do not pass go !
Report Post »moonfish
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 10:24amProtesting against a non-democratic government may lead to democracy. Protesting against a democracy, where you have an equal vote, is anarchy.
Report Post »johnorange22
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:05pmMadison Police reported no arrests were made. Everyone was pretty peaceful on both sides. I go into a couple arguments, but nothing serious.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:33pmyeah, because its all just a rouse to bait out tea party folk and beat them.
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