Ties to Terrorists? Trial Begins In Suit Against Proposed TN Mosque
- Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:07pm by
Billy Hallowell
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MURFREESBORO, Tenn. (The Blaze/AP) — Opponents of a proposed mosque in Tennessee will get to make their case at trial on Wednesday in a lawsuit they have used as a platform to broadcast their wider opposition to the faith of Islam (this is the same house of worship that former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain opposed).
Plaintiffs want to void a May 2010 meeting of the Rutherford County Planning Commission in which it approved the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro’s site plan. They claim the public was not adequately notified ahead of time.
Voiding the meeting would rescind the approval, forcing mosque members to seek new approval in a climate made hostile by nearly two years of plaintiffs’ unsubstantiated claims that members have ties to terrorists.
Plaintiffs have also claimed that Islam is not a religion and doesn’t deserve First Amendment protections. That claim prompted the intervention of local U.S. Attorney Jerry Martin. His office filed a brief confirming that Islam is a recognized religion. Martin said at the time that to suggest otherwise was “quite simply ridiculous.”
The proposed mosque is one of a few Muslim projects in the U.S. that hit a swell of conservative opposition around the same time as the controversy over a plan to build a Muslim community center near New York’s ground zero.
Chancellor Robert Corlew has ruled against the plaintiffs on their claims related to the supposed threat posed by the mosque. The only issues to be argued at trial are supposed to relate to whether there was sufficient public notice for the meeting.
However, plaintiffs have sought to keep alive questions about the mosque’s legitimacy as a house of worship. In a hearing last week, plaintiffs’ attorney Thomas Smith asked the judge to consider the totality of the circumstances when deciding whether meeting notice was sufficient, including the supposed dangers raised by plaintiffs.
Because the Islamic Center itself is not named as a defendant, mosque members have not been able to defend themselves against the accusations in court.
On Wednesday, Saleh Sbenaty, a mosque spokesman and a professor of engineering at Middle Tennessee State University, said there has been a mosque in Murfreesboro for over 30 years, but no one considered it a threat until this controversy erupted. Local Muslims want to build a new mosque because they have outgrown their current space in an office complex.
Sbenaty, who is originally from Syria, said the constant attacks have been draining.
“I left my country over 30 years ago to get my freedom over here, and now that’s being threatened,” he said. “My First Amendment rights are under fire.”
Find out more about the mosque here.
All images property of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro web site.
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Comments (90)
BlackCrow
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 6:26pmIs the adjoining property available? Would make a wonderful place for a hog feeding operation.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:39pmSomeone should dump some slaughtered pigs guts, blood and all at the front door. Islam should be banned in America and in my opinion has no rights in this country. We have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness in this country but when those rights are threatened by Islam and it’s commands to murder unbelievers then it is a direct contradiction to this society. You can only choose one, to protect their rights to murder and put everything under it’s satanic barbaric submission or our rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There is no other choice. Americans need to keep creating a hostile environment for Islam and their terror indoctrination centers they call Mosques.
Report Post »my2003gt
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:13amall of us as Americans need to stand up to these terrorist groups. I say lets get a wood chipper and a few hogs and grind and dump it on the land. T
Report Post »his so called religion is nothing more than an excuse to spread terrorism all over our great country. We have to take a stand on this issues and not allow it to spread any more
Anon.786
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:27pmthat is just soooooooooo disrepectful, you woul’dnt like it if i plotted to get rid of the church and turned it into a pig orphanage!
Report Post »so u betta shut up! and by the way if i do then don‘y worry i’ll make sure you get a space in there
akairey
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 5:40pmPeople please do your research on ISLAM! The truth about their so-called “peaceful” religion/cult!
Report Post »http://www.answeringmuslims.com/p/jihad.html
Anon.786
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:30pmu need to shut up!
Report Post »you don‘t know a crap about islam so don’t act like it!
and i think you need to do ur research, MATE!
I’m a muslim, a follower of islam and i’m proud od it, you lot are just hiding behind a screen if i was right infront of ur face then you would’nt say anything!
hi
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 5:19pmIf Muslims had black slaves, would we allow their religion here?
Well, they abuse women, marry little girls who haven’t gone through puberty,sleep with dead wives, treat women worse than dogs, force them to wear hijabs, stone them and mutilate their private parts. This is not religion. The women are treated worse than slaves. THey should not be alllowed into our country just as they would not be allowed here if they owned black slaves.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:12amThey did have black slaves.
Often they sold them to european slavers who transported them to the Americas and Europe.
Slavery still exists in muslim countries.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:38amSimon Deng, a former slave owned by muslims in Sudan speaks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tBWhK_iUh4&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:59amAs I have said before; I do not understand why a significant number of black people in America convert to a religion that kidnapped and sold their ancestors into slavery and whose adherents, at this very moment, own and trade african slaves.
Have they not read their own holy book, the Koran, which gives muslims the right to capture and trade slaves? Do they willingly blind themselves to uncontestable and readily available evidence of this fact? Are all of them so completely gullible?
Hard to understand.
Report Post »bnorton11
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:43amYou guys all know that the Transatlantic slave trade was primarily organized for the benefit of white Christians right? And right up to the Civil War Southern Christians in America were using the Bible as justification for slavery? I think the old saying of those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones applies here. By the way I have never heard of American Muslims owning slaves.
Report Post »MrKnowItAll
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:50pmThe guy stated he came here over 30 years ago from his Country. Now he feels his First Amendment Rights are being Violated. My answer is don’t spend another second here. Your Country needs you. We Don’t!
Report Post »my2003gt
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:16amI couldn’t agree more. Hell I will buy him a ticket to go home were he belongs
Report Post »cdcats8
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:49pmI posted something on e-mail that I later checked out and found it was attributed to the Turkish PM and it isn’t. I looked it up on Wickipedia and copied this exerpt:
Before his conviction, the Welfare Party was declared unconstitutional and was shut down by the Turkish constitutional court on the grounds of threatening the secular order in Turkey. Erdoğan became a constant speaker at the demonstrations held by his party colleagues.[15]
He was given a ten month prison sentence (of which he served six months) for reciting a poem in Siirt in December 1997, which, under article 312/2 of the Turkish penal code was regarded as an incitement to commit an offense and incitement to religious or racial hatred.[16] It included verses translated as “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers….”[1] The aforementioned verses, however, are not in the original version of the poem.[2] The poem was from a work written by Ziya Gökalp, a pan-Turkish activist of the early 20th century.[17] Erdoğan claimed the poem had been approved by the education ministry to be published in textbooks.[18] With the conviction, Erdoğan was forced to give up his mayoral position. The conviction also stipulated a political ban, which prevented him from participating in parliamentary elections. He completed his sentence on 24 July 1999
Report Post »matamoros
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:41pmI guess the more sane among us would say to let justice run its course. I too would have probably agreed with that about couple of years ago. However, no more. Everything is upside down in our country. Tea Party members are now the terrorist, and the terrorist are now the peace loving people – gay marriage is in, heterosexual marriage is out – faux green energy is in, and real fossil fuels are out – tyranny is in, freedom is out – bailouts and welfare is in, and independence and self-reliance are out. I could go on and on. I’m afraid that I totally agree with that “juvenile and red-neck” mentality, let’s slaughter some freaking pigs and fill their mosques and “holy” sites with blood and guts of these pigs.
It‘s the only thing hat’s going to work. We the people MUST take control of islam within our borders, because our government has been co-opted, and they will only aid and abet our enemy. Sorry to say, but that’s the way things are right now.
Report Post »dianna9490
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:41pmNO Mosques – and NO SHARIA law in the USA
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:03pmLet’s round up some hogs, go down there and slaughter the hogs and splatter pig blood all over
Report Post »the place. Problem solved.
bankerpapaw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:00pmLet’s round up some hogs, go down there and slaughter them and splatter pig blood all over the
Report Post »place. Problem solved.
johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:45pmSimple question:
Is the mortgage on this new mosque held in the name of the old congregation from the existing mosque or is the mortgage held by ISNA, the Islamic Society of North America?
ISNA holds the mortgage on all new mosques built in the US with Saudi money; but, ISNA was named as an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial. Forget for a moment that the Ayatollah Obama has had the president of ISNA to dinner at the White House. That’s another issue for after Jan 2013 when the treason trials can commence.
Should an organization named by a federal judge as worthy of prosecution for ties to Hamas be allowed to build that new mosque? If you answer “Yes,” please lead all like-minded traitors back to the flea hole from wence they came and leave us alone. Go marry ten year old girls in the desert and make your women wear head-to-toe coverings.
Report Post »packer
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:28pmGo Back to Syria if you don’t like it! i am so fed up that we have to bend over backwards for these people and we get the shaft on EVERYTHING WE DO tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax SICK OF IT….The terrorist muslims are funding these people and our lawmakers (Dem GOP) think about why do these people give them so many rights and take ours away.ASK YOUR SELF…our gov’t needs to be torn down and rebuildt with Real Amercian People that love this country. Salute!
Report Post »RationalLogo
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:19pmWhen Muslims take over the world then let’s see what is ridiculous. Prophesy is being fullfilled. But only a believer will know the signs.
Report Post »littleQueenie
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:08pmIslam masquerades as a religion but it is really a fascist institution like communism, which is why Obama and Hillary like it so much.
Report Post »One totalitarian system is as good as the next to those two.
Any “religious” system that has it own set of social codes that are made into laws which are separate and contradicts our constitution shouldn’t be classified as a religion but as a tyrannical ideology.
Islam should have no refuge in the 1st amendment.
Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:17pmSubstitute “Christianity” for “Islam” and you sound like a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:05pm“The proposed mosque is one of a few Muslim projects in the U.S. that hit a swell of conservative opposition around the same time as the controversy over a plan to build a Muslim community center near New York’s ground zero.”
Report Post »That’s because there only ARE a few Muslim projects in the U.S….
moreteaplease
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:05pmWhy are our elected officials, at all levels, so bent on letting Islam take over this country? I don’t get it.
Report Post »This country has lost the fighting spirit it once had and the Libs are proud of it.
encinom
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:14pmWhy are bigots so eager to trample the Constitution and deny others their religious rights?
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:59pmIf mosques are pushed underground, it will make finding the islamic extremists harder to find.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:44pmThey should be allowed to build the mosque without interference from govt. After it’s built, our counter-terrorism agencies should be allowed to closely monitor their activities without interference from ACLU, CAIR and others.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:53pmThat won’t happen. Didn’t Obama say we had more mosques in America, which makes us a muslim country, not a Christian one. Think the government would do anything!!!! The area will be swarmed with new muslims coming in to make it their home. We have been so foolish to ever let them immigrate to America.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:50pmNHwinter
Report Post »Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:53pm
That won’t happen. Didn’t Obama say we had more mosques in America, which makes us a muslim country, not a Christian one. Think the government would do anything!!!! The area will be swarmed with new muslims coming in to make it their home. We have been so foolish to ever let them immigrate to America.
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No, it makes a country that respects the religious freedoms of all of its citizens, something that the majority of Beckerneads and the residents of this county don’t understand.
trueamerican40
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 8:43pmYou are right…after 9-11 it should have stopped. After all, it happened after Pearl Harbor with the Japanese. PC didn’t flourish back then though.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:02pmencinom – you dear naive soul.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:37pm.
You Hill Billy’s need to get a grip on this, or we‘re gonna kick ya’ll out the SEC…..
Geaux Tiger’s……….
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:48pmyep……..try to build a church in the middle east………..oops………they are burning the existing one and the head cleric in saudi arabia has called for the destruction of all churches in saudi arabia…………..gee , why are we send billions of tax money that we have to borrow to these people
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:03pmoldguy you got that right, they burn down the churches and kill the Christians and their children but not before raping their wives an daughters. this american will not be silent about the stealth jihad here in america. where are the freedom from religion nuts? anyone? oh that’s right the cowards only troll for Christians because we will not become violent when our religion is under fire.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:36pmDo we have religious freedom in this country or not? What about private property rights? If they own the land, why should bureaucrats and politicians decide whether they be able to build a house of worship on their own land?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:41pmYou need to become more familiar with Islamic Jihad.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:52pmYou should become more familiar with the Constitution.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:58pmSo where do you live? Can we suggest this group that is here in my back yard are now to be welcomed into yours?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:01pm“You should become more familiar with the Constitution.”
You should try defending it.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:03pmIt’s not a question of NIMBY, but of basic Constitutional rights and equal protection under the law. Just because you don’t want to live near their kind, doesn’t mean we suspend the Constitution.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:21pm“You should try defending it (the Constitution)”.
@mike_trivisonno. I AM defending it.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 5:03pmPolitical Islam is not about religion. Study up!
Report Post »cgnick
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:29amThe Christian extremists want us to lower ourselves to the level of the Muslim extremists. They are one and the same.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:33pmKey word: “unsubstantiared.” There is no one on earth who doesn’t have “ties to terrorists.” Six degrees or less, a la Kevin Bacon. Sorry, Murfreesboro.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:39pmThe Oracle of Bacon won’t save you from Jihading muslims.
http://oracleofbacon.org/
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:40pmHow long before the same accusation could be used by the Feds to go after christian churches?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:45pmSpeak for yourself. There may be no Muslim on Earth who doesn’t have “ties to terrorists.” I guarantee I don‘t and the vast majority on here don’t.
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:56pmThere are also very few Christians on earth that have no ties to the Tea Party movement which the Obama regime characterizes as dangerous and extremist. Many in his party have referred to Tea Party members as “terrorists” and “racists”. Is it so hard to see where this is going?
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:56pmMike–um, perhaps “bacon” was the wrong choice of words. . . .
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:03pm“Mike–um, perhaps “bacon” was the wrong choice of words. . . .”
Oh my. Maybe the Oracle of Bacon can save us!
Bacon for President!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:30pmThey have outgrown their current space in an office complex so now they need a 52,000 square foot mosque. That is a lot of Muslims trucked into Tennessee.
“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.”
Report Post »Turkish P.M. Ergodan
mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:37pmThanks for that quote. It supports what many have been saying fro decades: mosques are not places of worship, they are garrisons for an invading army.
Report Post »do_it_all_again
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:19pmJust what, exactly, are these mosques made of ? I have yet to hear of one being burned down.
Report Post »ChuckSammich
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:27pmTN has lots of goats… If they entrench in the Vol state, we will never get decent blue grass again. Is there no realestate in Mecca at all and why can’t Christians build there again?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:33pmNon-muslims are not even allowed on the highway leading to Mecca.
Winston Churchill was absolutely correct is calling Islam a retrograde culture.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:23pmNote the minarets. They are a symbol of Islamic Dominance in a region.
When the minarets go up, the steeples come down.
We Americans should not allow open Jihad on our soil much less the construction of a new garrison (mosque) for the growing muslim army being built right before our uncomprehending eyes.
Stop construction of this garrison. It is insanity.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:37pmA garrison–and most likely an arsenal? Did you know that the Catholic Church is a similar threat? Whenever a Catholic baby is born, a rifle and 50 rounds of ammunition are buried on parish grounds, so that all will be ready when the day comes for the Papists to rise up and take over God’s republic.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:46pm“A garrison–and most likely an arsenal? Did you know that the Catholic Church is a similar threat? Whenever a Catholic baby is born, a rifle and 50 rounds of ammunition are buried on parish grounds, so that all will be ready when the day comes for the Papists to rise up and take over God’s republic.”
Yes. Because that is exactly what is happening.
Your grasp of History and Islamic Jihad is inadequate.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:50pmLloyd Drako – that is absolutely crazy. Where did you ever get that idea. Wow. What an insane lie. Coming from generations of Catholics, I can say, with a Bible in my hand, that is a lie.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:52pm@ Lloyd: My hope is that your forgot to use your Sarcasm Face when posting such drivel about the Catholic Church. If that were the actual case, there’d be no room to build new community gardens, food pantries for the poor, and social services offices for all the people they help in the outlying area.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:58pmNHWinter: exactly! It was a myth. Yet that is what millions of otherwise sane American Protestants believed about American Catholics in the 19th century. If you’re young enough, you will live to be ashamed of what you once believed about American Muslims.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:06pm“If you’re young enough, you will live to be ashamed of what you once believed about American Muslims.”
Hmm. Tell that to the Children of Beslan. Oh, wait. They’re dead at the hands of Jihading muslims.
The muslims in America should be ashamed of treason in their hearts and blood on their hands.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:21pmLloyd Drako – if they read the same Koran, then they believe that we are the infidels. They can lie to us because we are infidels. I will not be ashamed of how I feel about muslims. It is their duty to convert us or kill us. Enough said.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:15pmTENNESSEE: WTf is Wrong with YOU?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:28pmSearch for pictures of the Opa Locka City Hall. It is a mosque.
This Islamic Jihad has been speeding along for decades now. Americans need to be woken and made to look at the enemy: Islam.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:46pm@MIKE…
Report Post »Just a Study of the Word… Caliph (Successor)… should enlighten even the Stupid!
mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 3:00pmWe can only hope.
Islamic Jihad has taken apart more nations than any force on the planet and so many refuse to even acknowledge the threat.
Luckily, more and more Americans are being introduced to Jihad and what Islam has in store for America.
The Jihad on the Children of Beslan should have sealed the fate of Islam in America but it didn’t. Soon, if we do not confront Islam, we will have an American Beslan. I do not want American children to become lambs on the altar of Allah as did those innocents in Beslan.
Few in America even know about Beslan and the pure evil that was done there. Pure evil.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 4:52pm@MIKE…
Report Post »People know the old Vampire Stories, here… but not the Great Battles against the Calipate after it conquered Contantinople… where Vald Tepes was a great Hero. Unfortunately, it never ended… and Beslan is a great example!
Marci
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:11pmIf they can prove their ties, that should be enough. But our government has turned into a bunch of quivering weenies when it comes to Islam already.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:21pmIndeed.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 25, 2012 at 2:24pmThe Koran… and a History Book… are all the Evidence that is Required!!!
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