Tiger Scouts Ousts Lesbian Den Mother, Parents Rally to her Defense
- Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:59pm by
Tiffany Gabbay
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(The Blaze/AP) The first-graders in Ohio Pack 109‘s Tiger Scouts didn’t know or care their den mother was a lesbian – at least not until the Boy Scouts of America threw her out over the organization’s ban on gays.
Now, parents who were aware of Jennifer Tyrell’s sexual orientation well before she took the boys on campouts and helped them carve race cars for the annual Pinewood Derby have rallied to her defense in a case that has re-ignited the debate over the Scouts’ policy.
“I teach my children to judge people on their actions,” said Rob Dunn, a father in Bridgeport, a village of about 2,000 across the Ohio River from Wheeling, W.Va. “Whether you agree with their lifestyle or not.”
The Boy Scouts of America, whose oath calls for members to be “morally straight,” maintains that as a private organization it has the right to exclude gays and atheists from its ranks.
That stance was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 but has led many state and local governments to deny support for the Scouts.
Male scout leaders who are gay have long been barred, but instances of women being excluded are not well-documented and probably rare. A lesbian couple in Vermont were told two years ago that they could no longer be involved with their son’s Scout troop.
Watch Tyrell speak out about the incident at the recent GLAAD awards in Los Angeles:
Because of the policy, Tyrell said she only reluctantly allowed her 7-year-old son to join up in Bridgeport, where she lives with her partner and their four children. Told, she said, by the local cub master that it didn’t matter that she is a lesbian, she was drafted to lead the pack in September.
Tyrell told parents at their first meeting about her sexual orientation. Some already knew her because she had coached youth baseball and volunteered at school, organizing class parties and reading to children.
“She wasn’t trying to hide anything,” said Dunn, whose son is among the dozen or so members of the boys-only pack. “Nobody I know of has ever made a single complaint against her.”
Tyrell said she was removed in April, right after she was asked to take over as treasurer of the local Boy Scout troop – which oversees Tiger Scouts, Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts – and she raised questions about the finances.
She said the Boy Scout Council for the region told her she had to resign because she is gay.
“In this case, the policy was understood by her and her fellow volunteers but not followed,” said Deron Smith, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America at its headquarters in Irving, Texas. “When a fellow pack leader made a complaint about it, to a local Scouting professional, they followed the policy.”
The organization said it believes Scouting is not the right place for youngsters to be exposed to issues of sexual orientation.
Tyrell said she is not certain who complained, but she felt betrayed.
So did parents, who organized a protest last week outside the church where the pack held its meetings. They demanded Tyrell be reinstated.
Crystal Sabinsky said: “My son asked me last night, `Why did Jen leave? Why is she in trouble?‘ He doesn’t understand.”
“The only people who were hurt were the kids,“ Dunn said ”They‘re asking questions they shouldn’t have to ask at this point.”
Parents of the Tiger Scouts, a program for first-grade boys before they become Cub Scouts, said they
never heard Tyrell mention her sexuality to the children. Club rules require a parent or other adult to accompany each child to every meeting.
“I had no clue she was a lesbian. It doesn’t really make a difference to me,” said Don Thomas, whose grandson is in the pack. “She did a fantastic job, and the kids loved her. You couldn’t ask for a better den leader.”
Gay rights groups have taken up Tyrell’s cause, starting an online petition to get the Scouts to change their policy.
“The extent that people care is amazing,” Tyrell said. “We’re a perfectly normal family. We’re not dangerous. We’re not predators. We’re just normal, everyday people.”
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Comments (199)
Jaycen
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:59amThe rules in the Scouts are completely clear. She knew the rules, and unfortunately, the leaders ahead of her knew the rules and knowingly violated the rules. If any of those leaders are still involved in the organization, they should be removed.
In fact, if the Chartered Organziation knew about the situation, the Charter should be dissolved and the remaining parents can seek a new Chartered Organization.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:16amNo, this is wrong.
Have you not read the Official Instructions from “13th Generation” ??
Gay is all that matters. God is irrelevant. Morality is passe. Kids are nothing more than fodder for “The movement”. And YOU — Y O U — if YOU stand in the way, the forces of gay omnipotence will simply flatten you and leave you a puddle.\
Now: re-wite what you said and be quick about it!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:30amHeh, I appreciate the sarcasm. The Scouting program does a lot of good, but it’s been hard to get and keep good leaders, because there are so many parents who aren’t leaders…they’re followers.
The BSA publishes clear rules and guidelines. All you have to do is follow them and you really can’t go wrong.
Report Post »awadeva
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 8:15amAbsolutely right! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 8:28amI don‘t think it’s a big deal only because you are born with feelings for the opposite sex (most people). These kids are probably making funny comments behind her back. They are kids…remember! If parents don’t like it move to another troop! Too much energy wasted!
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:20am“The Boy Scouts of America, whose oath calls for members to be “morally straight,” maintains that as a private organization it has the right to exclude gays and atheists from its ranks.”
Distorting morality to favor an individual or group just causes the gradual reduction of society to a lower level.
Whether homosexuality is viewed as an inherent trait or an anomaly of nature, or, as Michael Savage says, a mental disorder, it has no place among our children.
The fact that this woman was able to adopt a young child, which will likely cause him to engage in perversions, is a crime in and of itself, and it starkly reveals how far this country has degenerated.
The culture war will be won by conservatives by virtue of a collapse of the system….economically at first….and then secession, partition and eventual large scale civil hostilities.
As Glenn said in his GBTV OWS revelation the other day…prepare…prepare…prepare. It’s coming, and it’s not far away.
Report Post »NutterButter79
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:53pmI agree….get her out of the boy scouts! Of course her replacement might be a straight man with a certain aversion to little boys…
Come on! She wasn’t running around making it clear to all of the kids what she was. Oh well….rather have a pedophile than a lesbian that loves and cares for their family.
Report Post »Guess you folks didn’t get the memo: There ARE gay republicans out there.
lukerw
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:31pmKeep it simple: No Perverts allowed in the Club House!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:10pmI’m conservative as they come, but I’m sorry, I have plenty of gay friends and customers, and if we can not admit that people are born gay, then we are blind, !!!! Take a step back look at this woman, are you gonna say she should be with a guy ??? A male ??? A man ????? I don‘t think that’s gonna happen…. Bless her heart, and I applaud her for being a devoted Mom……sheeese people, come on !
Report Post »ChildOfTheKing
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:30pmWow. WHAT IF: (since no one knows who complained) her partner complained (anonymously), JUST so they could SUE, WIN, AND BE AWARDED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? An easy way to make money in this CREEPY POLITICALLY-CORRECT SOCIETY climate.
Report Post »ChildOfTheKing
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:33pmOK. So, is being gay a MORAL ISSUE?
If so, then what do the Scouts’ rules say?
Should we FOLLOW THE RULES or CHANGE THEM TO BENEFIT THE POLITICALLY CORRECT?
Let’s take a vote. Let me revise that. THOSE WHO HAVE KIDS IN THE SCOUTS’, LET THEM VOTE.
Report Post »Afterall, even our own President and his Administration WON’T OBEY OUR CURRENT LAWS, why should anyone else?
iroshi
Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:10pmWhat is more important? Following rules that discriminate against good people? Or having someone as a den leader who is respected and accomplishes a lot of good for the kids. Seems like a no-brainer.
Report Post »iroshi
Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:11pmChild of the King: Seems as if the parents have already voted in this case. They knew the situation and were grateful for Ms. Tyrell’s work with the kids.
Report Post »hogtrashhd
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:56amI don’t care how “nice” she is.. she‘s a lesbian and shouldn’t be in a position of being a leader in the boy scouts or girl scouts.. that’s all there is to it.. if this is ignored the gays will demand everything.. this is just a foot in the door manipulation.. she shouldn’t be around children.. gays are subversive.ask yourself why these types are trying to get around young people.. because kids brains are like sponges. and they know it.. they will plant seeds.. that’s what this is about .. stand your ground. stop ceding everything .. PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN IDIOTS.. people in the US have spines of jello.. stop submitting to this crap.. IT’S WRONG and bad for the kids.. i’d like to smack these idiot parents … it’s okay with THEM…. who cares.. it’s not about THEM.. it’s about the welfare of their children.. and these parents say this pretending to be oh so tolerant and hip and cowardly.. let me tell you something.. the gays ARE NOT tolerant..hey oh so tolerant moms.. know what the gays call you??? they sneeringly call you BREEDERS.. like cows they say.. you’re ignorant.. WAKE UP.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:09amThe Girl Scouts of the USA accepts gays and lesbians, and allows its members to substitute another word in place of “God” when reciting the Girl Scout Promise.
1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:18amBEWARE – “13th” (sure – right) is cutting and pasting!!!! Hard to type with your hands busy?
Report Post »ImJusSayin
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 8:46am@ 13TH
Report Post »Then SHAME ON THEM! If the Girl Scouts allow that Im done supporting them. Whats next, teach kids its ok cuss and act a fool? Theres no laws against that! Kids are so impressionable and we have to the best for them. Sorry if 1 adults wishes have to be SQUASHED! Do some research. How many normal young women go into a basketball program led by a lesbian and end up messed up? Check it out. Kids are trusting and teaching them to do whatever feels good at the moment is such a dis-service. Thanks goodness my daughter is too old now and that when she was in scouts my wife was the leader. Let people live their lives however they want. Just try to SHOVE IT DOWN MY THROAT!
asybot12
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:46amIn the article there was a mention of a lesbian couple and their son how is that possible? I think the world is in deep trouble.
Report Post »Read history about most “empires’ from the Egyptians through the Chinese, Indian, Turkish, Romans, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, French, British, Mayans, Incas and many African and Arabian kingdoms as well (They were actually the ones to sell slaves) and the list is long and seems to repeat it self over and over again. As soon as discipline goes out he door the “Empires” collapse.
And before you all call me a bigot read the downfalls of those few I have mentioned and then add the USA, USSR, Germany, Austria, Italy, the Vikings (yes Sweden and Norway are no exceptions either!) to that list. I bloody well dare you! Unless we become disciplined again we as a race will fall down a big pit and this time around it is going to be worse because we have become soft and have no more moral fortitude and have weapons at our disposal many many more times deadlier than bows and arrows.
1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:35amTheir kids “don’t understand” & are “asking questions they shouldn’t”? About the degenerate behavior? NO! They’re only about why she was kicked out? Did they consider their kids‘ lack of understanding or questions about the degenerate’s sinful lifestyle? This is why degenerates who feel righteous in their being actively gay, alcoholics, drug addicts, pedophiles, etc are forbidden from Scouts. The kids “don’t understand“ and ”ask questions they shouldn’t”.
“We’re a perfectly normal family. We’re not dangerous. We’re not predators.”
Homosexual sex is NOT normal – it’s self-worshipping idolatry. They ARE dangerous because of their compulsion to instigate exactly this type of controversy. They ARE predators because they are forcing their disgusting “CHOICES” onto the minds of children – asserting their “right” to persuade them away from their innocence, traditions, and morals that make scouting a pillar of virtue.
When it comes to activists in defense of their perversions; I don’t do business with them, I don’t befriend them, and I don’t tolerate them around me. I call them out for what they are – degenerate servants of the adversary. If they can make no effort to change then I can make no effort to help them. Even God gives them up and over to a reprobate mind. For these perversions they foist on these kids, it were better that a millstone were hanged about their necks, and that they were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:45amI’m glad your warped 1st century mentality is in the very extreme minority
Report Post »1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:56amEver READ the Bible? Don’t like God much either – do you? He’s so old fasioned with all His rules, etc, huh? Fine, let’s try a newer way of thinking from around “13” generations ago: Why do you think the right of the sexually perverse to force themselves INTO a PRIVATE organization trumps the rights of the MEMBERS of the organization from their FREEDOM of ASSOCIATION? Try not to choke on that, Sweety. What year was that 13 generations ago? Not swallowing that (another thing the gays hate).
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:58am13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:45am
I’m glad your warped 1st century mentality is in the very extreme minority
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You may PERCEIVE people without your ‘progressive’ lack of morality and common sense is pervasive, but that’s simply because of the world you submerge yourself in. A decent analogy would be: if you are face down in the gutter, it sure does seem like all the world lives in the gutter.
Fortunately, most people live in nice, clean HOUSES, have nice, normal FAMILIES, and live nice, sound LIVES. Further, there is a resurgence underfoot (you, perhaps, have not noticed it from your gutter perch) and the anti-progress your ilk have slimed us with is slowly but surely being pushed back.
Too bad, so sad. Not all of us are going to end up like you.
Report Post »1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:59am“13”th blah-blah,
”The Scouts have gone off the deep end with their bigoted idiotic anti gay stance.”
It is not a “stance” it is a moral imperative – like honesty. By definition you must also find God to be bigoted and idiotic. Also, thier moral imperative is not “anti gay” it is pro virtue. It is not the BSA’s fault that some people are missing cetain virtues.
Report Post »RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:49am“13th” – minority view…is only in the courts. People overwhelmingly vote against gay marriage in even liberal California, however the extreme minority of lib judges overrule “we the people”.
Report Post »Anse
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:35amabsolutely DISGUSTING!
these “women” are not CHRISTIANS, not GOOD PEOPLE, barely even people AT ALL
if we don’t force them OUT of our organizations and OUT of our country we will face His vengeance…. don’t say nobody warned you…..
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:28amOr Rosie O’Donnel?
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:27amKinda looks like Chas Bono, no?
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:18amI applaud this woman for her dedication to children; it’s apparent the children love her.
That being said, the Boy Scouts have rules.
People have no more right to tell the Scouts what to do than they do telling the Vatican how to run their religion.
If you don’t like the rules, don’t participate.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:25amThat is it in a nut shell.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:36amHave to agree .. sounds like she has plenty of opportunities elsewhere .. and I can see the Scouts point of view .. they have rules to protect the kids .. not from this woman who sounds like a good and caring mother .. but you can’t make exceptions .. that would not be fair .. and isn’t that what everything is about now .. “fairness” sometimes it does not work to your advantage.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:57amLet her and the upset parens start their own organization, and they’re free to run it any way they like. No worries.
Report Post »toomuchgovt
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:03amOr does this woman LOVE an agenda? I always question adults who seem to not obey laws, and force organization to conform to THEIR beliefs. If she “loved” children so much, why didn’t she just start her own program for children? The new program could have “rules” like “Only Gay leaders” to mentor the children.
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:27amWorks for all ‘private’ entities/corporations i.e. — ‘statutory authority.’ — Maybury v Madison (1806) “Anything repugnant to the {republic’s 1791 as opposed to organic Act of 1871/74 Corp USA} Constitution is null and void..” — One is not required to ‘obey’ an unlawful/illegal ‘law.’ — This isn’t just about BSA — this is universal in the country today, as MOST are seductively deceived to ‘believe’ they are in fact living in a country where the chosen form of government is the ‘republic.’ — Yes — but ONLY if YOU exercise it — the rest of the country works under ‘constitutional monarchy,’ JUST like Canada, New Zealand, Austrailia, etc…
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:14amMy grandson’s school, the teacher told me she has email, and phoned parents of children with behavior problems. She said she doesn’t get any response. It is very obvious that many parents have taken a vacation from parenting.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 6:07amIf you were to substitute “many” with “some”, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. And one sad thing is that lives are sometimes ruined as a result. The other sad thing is that this attitude is learned and can be repeated with the next generation.
Raising children is no small thing; it is a serious responsibility and our success or failure at this task charts the future of our nations.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:13amThe Girl Scouts of the USA accepts gays and lesbians, and allows its members to substitute another word in place of “God” when reciting the Girl Scout Promise.
Way to go Girl Scouts, you need to teach the boys a thing or two.
P.S. I love your cookies!
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:27am@13TH GENERATION AMERICAN
Really? Great cookies is your argument?
Some folks thought Happy Meals were evil because the toys were enticing children to eat unhealthy foods.
Maybe we the do-gooders should look into the cookie gimmick.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:48amYeah. Sure is laudable to teach youngsters that morality, God, and the foundation of our country are ‘optional’.
Heck – why not just slap a mind meld device on their little heads and “reprogram” their little brains so they feel as forlorn as do other homosexuals, and come to the conclusion the only place they will be accepted is in the gay bath house.
Sounds hunkey dorey to me!
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:01amHey VOTERIGHTDAMMIT
They are teaching them exactly what our constitution is all about. You see, here in America, you are allowed to believe what you want without being discriminated against. That’s exactly why Jefferson, Adams and Madison instituted the Wall of Separation of Church and State and there will be no religious test to become President. That by the way is the only time religion is mentioned in our constitution.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:07amHey 13th Gen
You clearly wish to believe our Founders inserted no “God” into our country, but that is simply your warped little fantasy. This nation was, is, and shall be “UNDER GOD”.
The fact you are WITHOUT God is kind of irrelevant to the rest of us, but oh so very sad for you. No doubt you have convinced yourself He!! is a fairytale for weak minded people. Good luck, toasty!
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:15amYou’re confusing “Under God” wit the Pledge of Allegiance and I’m going to school again.
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898). The original “Pledge of Allegiance” was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children’s magazine
Bellamy’s original Pledge read as follows:
I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it – knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans
Report Post »Kellyb58
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:21amThat is why membership in the Girl Scouts is on the decline and another orginization American Heritage Girls was created.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:35amThere are over 3 million Girl Scouts and about 18 thousand American Heritage Girls
Report Post »XenAnarcoCap
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:55amJust gonna come in here and say ‘agree with 13’ though on the point of separation and personal choice. It IS call freedom of religion. That way you can choose how you believe. But though I dont agree with boy scouts (and was a girl scout but quit due to the fact my area ran the getup much like phobic boy scouts except we wernt allowed to do anything ‘non-feminine’) but if they want to be morons who spur on the spewing of misunderstanding they can, I wont have any of my future children with them and I wont support them. Its a business and it should go bankrupt like any other business that refuses to serve an area due to the thinking ‘well thats just the way things are done’ Its the same argument a ‘morally straight’ eagle once gave me to oppose interracial marriage.
Report Post »Crazyotto
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:36pmPlease! The BSA have every to run their organization the best way they see fit. Just because the GSA doesn‘t care about morality and is preoccupied with their sexual identity issues doesn’t mean the BSA has to follow suit… Socialist love to throw sexual deviancy in every ones face as some sort kind of badge of honor..as if to say “See perverts, transexuals, pedophiles, gays lead healthy and normal lives..it is just breeders who are the ones we need to worry about” I surprised in all your ranting you didn’t include the real issue and that is White Straight Male Oppression … We are to blame for everything…
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:07amThe Girl Scouts of the USA accepts gays and lesbians, and allows its members to substitute another word in place of “God” when reciting the Girl Scout Promise.
I think the Boys could learn a thing or two from the Girl Scouts. Way to go Girl Scouts!
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:20amI pray you were an only child.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:30amLASSIEGIRLDAWN
Wrong again. You know what’s funny, I bet you never by girl Scout cookies for the rest of your life but I bet you were a Girl Scout and you are so misinformed you didn’t even realize that they allow everyone who wants to participate. The Girl Scouts of America has 2.5 million members and 900 thousand adult members. Oh no, some of them might be gay, the world is going to end.
You’re a creep.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:53am13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:30am
LASSIEGIRLDAWN
Wrong again. You know what’s funny, I bet you never by girl Scout cookies for the rest of your life but I bet you were a Girl Scout and you are so misinformed you didn’t even realize that they allow everyone who wants to participate. The Girl Scouts of America has 2.5 million members and 900 thousand adult members. Oh no, some of them might be gay, the world is going to end.
You’re a creep.
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No, fringe element person, that ‘creep’ thing would be you.
Oh, and by the way, when you buy cookies you BUY them, not ‘by’ them. Get an education.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:06amThey are trying to push it down our throats, in schools and every aspect of our society. It is supposed to be taken as normal. I am sure the argument that they are nice people could stand, but what they are doing is against Gods will and most Christian beliefs. If we get any worse of, God is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:15amOh please, I suppose you never buy those Godless commie Girl Scout cookies either. Eye Roll
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:51am13th gen perv: I now see why you feel “justified” by proclaiming ‘13th gen’.
Gay people seem to have a need to find alternative ways to denote themselves as worthy of taking up air. I can’t speak for you, but if you feel so worthless in and of yourself, and have to puff yourself up through a supposed lineage, then you should – if objective at all – realize something is terribly wrong in the way you have elected to live your life.
My suggestion: Get Jesus, shuck off the albatross of your wretched life, gain some peace.
Or not. I have no skin in your game.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:05amVOTERIGHTDAMMIT
I’m not Gay you moron, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”
Seinfeld
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:13amYou are as homosexual as a three dollar bill.
Own your life, Pallie.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:46pm13th. I don’t buy girl scout cookies because of the things they are starting to teach young women.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:05am“In this case, the policy was understood by her and her fellow volunteers but not followed,”
Exactly.
Her child is welcome, she is welcome to participate as a parent, but she is not welcome to assume a leadership position in the pack, period. She knew this, she admits as much when she said:
“Because of the policy, Tyrell said she only reluctantly allowed her 7-year-old son to join up in Bridgeport, where she lives with her partner and their four children.”
The policy is not secret, it is applied evenly by the Boy Scouts, and her attempts to muddy the water with her vauge accusations of financial improprieties are just an attempt to distract people form the basic issue: She is openly gay (”Tyrell told parents at their first meeting about her sexual orientation.”), she knew the policy (see her “reluctant” comment above), and she should not be surprised by the decision of Scouting…
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:02amThey summed up the problem precisely….none of the parents care…that’s the problem.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:00amWhat don’t they understand about “morally straight,” It comes down to morals not being queer or straight, morals include homosexual behavior, honesty, God and love of country. I know these seem like out of date thoughts, but this is what the Boy Scouts were founded on. I stopped buying Girl Scout cookies and told the mother sitting there why because of allowing a boy in dressing as a girl. I did this to the mother one on one. She said she and a lot of other mothers were discussing starting another group and they understood, and they didn’t like it either. She was trying to install a moral code in her daughters and the daughters couldn’t understand why a boy wanted to do something like this, Look around folks, it all comes down to morals.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:00amI went all the way through scouts and the most important thing I learned was treating people with dignity and equality. The Scouts have gone off the deep end with their bigoted idiotic anti gay stance. Then again, they had issues with African Americans also.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:08amScouts have no problem with African Americans – I can’t speak for Scouting one hundred years ago, but I can tell you that there is no such problem today in scouting.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:17amIf you were taught morals, you might have a different attitude. I suppose abortion isn’t killing babies also.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:23amLASSIEGIRLDAWN
What are you talking about? Who mentioned abortion anywhere besides you? So you automatically think abortion when you think of Gay people, your mind is warped, I will pray for you though.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:36am@13TH GENERATION AMERICAN
The scout oath:
“On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and
Morally straight.”
It‘s the ’morally straight’ part that a lot of people have problems with. It implies two things;
1) That there are morals
2) That you know what those morals are.
A Scout (especially an Eagle) knows how to respect people, but he knows there are rules of behavior expected.
If you don’t like the rules, don’t participate.
Report Post »1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:43am“13th” (Sure – prove it – what year did they arrive?)
Anyway…”The Scouts have gone off the deep end with their bigoted idiotic anti gay stance.”
It is not a “stance” it is a moral imperative – like honesty. By definition you must find the God to be bigoted and idsiotic. Also, thier moral imperative is not “anti gay” it is pro virtue. It is not the BSA’s fault that some people are missing cetain virtues.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:44amOh, gosh, what a shock. You are a homosexual. Now, who would have guessed.
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:52amIdiots!
There is way more involved than simply doing tasks well.
Leaders of any children’s group are, like it or not, role models. Who the he!! wants their little innocent “role modeled” into homosexuality?????????????
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:46amSorry………..this is No man…………..period.
Report Post »Snicker484
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:34amI agree with @Godlovinmom on one thing, if these parents don’t care, then she should lead a group for these kids, but as a private organization, BOA should be able to have whatever rules they like. This community could form a scout group not affliated with the BOA. More power to ‘em.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:11amBeen tried repeatedly, fails every time.
Boy Scouts is designed to prepare boys for adulthood, assuming responsibility and being leaders. “Alternative” scouting groups just sit around and marvel at their inclusiveness, and when the novelty wears off, so does their interest in the group.
Who wants to join a group whose sole purpose for existing is to include homosexual scouts/leaders?
Report Post »LondoMollari
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:34amNo matter what you think of it:
Just do us a favor and leave the government out of it, please.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:32amGay people can teach our young Children all kinds of things. The proper way to eat a taco, how to match flannel shirts to your favorite jeans, and what channel Oprah is on.
Why don’t we just give in to their agenda, gay is normal, staight is wrong, do what feel good and God is dead.
And the minstels rejoiced….Yaaaahhh.
By the way, I must admit to being a lesbian, trapped in a mans body.
Report Post »LondoMollari
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:36amWell, I symapthize with your struggle and I agree with your points wholeheartedly.
And you have the awesomest user-name on here!
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:39amTemba, arms open wide.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:08amThat is so funny..I always assumed you were a couple…of maybe Indian heritage…if you are in fact a lesbian…then my hats off to you…for not pushing your lifestyle on anyone…I am a follower of Christ Jesus and I could care less whether you know or like it…and unless you want to know about it, then I’m not pushing anything on you…the way it should be..so we are in agreement..God Bless.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:55am@Godluvinmom
Darmok’s moniker is a reference to… oh, never mind.
He is male, and he is regaling us with his usual wit that most of us now look forward to.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:35pmwhoops my bad…I just binged darmok’s name and I came up with some star trek reference..is that right…I was expecting something much worse…thanks for the head’s up NZKIWI…Darmok, if you were a gay woman I would still applaud you for not shoving it in MY face…. :)
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:46amI am not a gay woman, just a lesbian, trapped in a mans body. I love women.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:30amFrom the Pic it is Obvious. She is not in the Girl Scouts recruiting.She is not a gay man.I see no Problem with her working with tiger scouts.
Report Post »svan71
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:27amshe had no right being there in the first place…but she ignores Gods rules so scouts rules are totally irrelevant.
Report Post »mharry860
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:20amI know 6 gay people, we don’t have a social life with them, but I seriously don’t have any issue with their choices. They’re all really good people and what they do at home is none of my business.
Report Post »UBKidding
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:36amThat is not the point. Certain they are an absolute pleasure to be around. Regardless, to have a person living a life that is in direct conflict with what God has said cannot lead children in an organization that is obedient to God’s rules.
Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
An atheist would not be a good leader either as they deny God’s existence. This person denies God’s law. Does not add up if the organization is about God.
And to make exceptions is wrong, as that compromises the whole reason for the Boy Scouts.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:14amI don’t think they regard their homosexuality as a “choice”, but I could be wrong, I don’t know your six gay friends.
If you have sat down and counted the number of gay friends you have, you may not be as open-mided or accepting as you think you are – really open-minded people have friends, nor “gay” friends or “black” friends, and keeping a running tally makes me think it’s important to you to APPEAR to be open and accepting rather than simply being open and accepting…
Report Post »Snake
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:23pmUBKIDDING…
You or any one else has no clue as to what God has “said”. You only know what other mere mortals have told you. The truth is far from anything you have been told. What two or more people do in private is their business. How can so many of you claim to follow the teaching of Jesus and yet be so JUDGEMENTAL. How dare you judge the entire person based on one trait or part of who they are. You are the reason I and millions of no longer go to church. The purpose of church has long been lost. Now it is just another “club” to belong to.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! Treat NO ONE any differnt than you wish to be treated!!!!!!!!
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:39pmSnake relax. Go to the third page and read my post about judging. Read Matthew 6 & 7.
I believe the bible teaches that homosexuality is a sin. So I don‘t have to acccept someone’s **** lifestyle. But just because I consider it a sin does not mean I can’t use the golden rule for them. I do treat them as I would want to be treated. I don’t spit on them or call them names or be mean to them. I work with some. I just don’t hang out with them. And they don’t want to hang out with me. We are using the golden rule.
I am allowed to choose my friends and not necessarily be “judgemental” as you think it means. Just like I don’t like hanging out with alcoholics who are always drunk, or young people who only want to party and smoke pot, or 50 yr old nerds playing dungeons and dragons. I am allowed to choose who I want to be friends with.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:40pmThat word that was **** was h. 0m0. I was trying to save typing.
Report Post »Snake
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:00pmDEEBERJ:
Not anywhere in what I wrote did I meantion you could not pick your friends. You took what I said out of context and turned it into something totally different. The bible has many many writings all from man, not God. Not to mention the volumes of writings that have been left out over the years as it gets re-writen over and over to suit the churches needs to continue control. Maybe you should read some of those writings left out before making more judgments. They are filled with very interesting information, but since they contridict “todays” church, they are simply ignored. Ignorance is bliss.
As I said, NO ONE knows what God said, only man has writen any words! All bibles are nothing but a construct of man. No one knows the truth about God becasue God is an unknown. Show me proof of where I am wrong.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:15amI see nothing wrong with her leading these scouts…as long as the parents don’t care…personally I care, so my kid wouldn’t be in her troop…just like my kid isn’t in public school…someone else’s agenda is not mine…but that‘s my choice isn’t it?
Report Post »conservativeamericanmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:21pmHi Godlovinmom: The mission of Boy Scouts is designed to teach skills, character, and morals. The structure of the organization is designed so that these things are taught from the top and it runs all the way down to the leaders of the packs and dens. It is a private organization that originated 101 years ago and as a private organization in the U.S., it has the right to make its own rules. The idea of having a den doing its own thing (not following the BSA rules) in some corner of the U.S. runs counter to the strong structure and intent of the Boy Scouts. Moreover, it is blatantly disrespectful for parents and leaders of such a group to do so. They were demonstrating poor character for their children in this case: How to lie just so that your desires are satisfied, disrespect for other people and rules of an organization, and so on.
My family lives in Canada temporarily (we also homeschool, by the way). My boys were members of BSA before we moved here. Canadians have many great qualities, but many of them (if not most) are push-overs when it comes to politically correct issues. Scouts of Canada faced the homosexual issue soon after BSA had their day in the Supreme Court several years ago. Scouts of Canada folded to the pressure and now are an “inclusive group”-including everyone that wants to join (homosexuals, girls, transwhatever). Because of this, Canadian Scout numbers have dropped dramatically and they have had to sell off beautiful camps and land just to surv
Report Post »conservativeamericanmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:30pmWoops, got carried away. Anyway, The Scouts of Canada has had to sell of major assets because their membership has dwindled so much. It’s a lesson for the Boy Scouts of America-when one compromises one’s core values, one loses that which makes one great.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:43pmIn reality they need to leave the boy scouts/ tiger scouts/girls scouts alone and start their own group…compromising one’s belief system is never a good thing :)…it is tough in today’s world…but we are living proof it can be done, just for the fact of homeschooling…its tough..but can be done…God Bless fellow mom!
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