TIME’s Joe Klein: Iowans Like Ron Paul Because He Doesn’t Want to ‘Send Americans Kids Off to War, Yet Again, to Fight For Israel’
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TIME’s left-leaning political columnist Joe Klein suggests that Iowans like GOP presidential contender Ron Paul because, unlike “Iran warhawks,“ Paul will not ”send American kids off to war, yet again, to fight for Israel’s national security.”
“It’s one thing to just adore Israel, as the evangelical Christians do; it’s another thing entirely to send American kids off to war, yet again, to fight for Israel’s national security.” Klein wrote in his “In the Arena” column.
Below are some of Klein’s observations on what is happening in Iowa:
1. the power of television advertising is reasserting itself. Gingrich is getting killed on the air, ruining the prevailing media narrative–that this campaign was all about debates. It was, when no one was advertising. Now, it’s about debates and paid media…and soon, it’ll be about organization.
2. Iowa Republicans are not neoconservatives. Ron Paul has gained ground after a debate in which his refusal to join the Iran warhawks was front and center. Indeed, in my travels around the country, I don’t meet many neoconservatives outside of Washington and New York. It’s one thing to just adore Israel, as the evangelical Christians do; it’s another thing entirely to send American kids off to war, yet again, to fight for Israel’s national security.
When Klein says “yet again,” in which war, exactly, is he suggesting that American “kids” were sent off to fight for the nation’s ally Israel? And if Iran does successfully develop nuclear weapons, as it is dangerously close to achieving, does Klein suggest that this is only Israel’s problem, and not an equally serious threat to U.S. interests both at home and abroad?
Bold emphasis added by The Blaze.
(h/t: WeaselZippers)
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andii38
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:02pmJustin Raimondo said it best,
Report Post »“They think they can just ignore him. They believe their lies will destroy him. They will stop at nothing to sabotage the populist movement he has created almost single-handedly. But no matter. We will defeat the War Party, which is hated by ordinary Americans: we will beat and humiliate the regnant elites who think they can dictate the boundaries of the political discourse. Let the media loosen its cannons on their target and do their best to slime a near saintly man, whose gentleness and sincerity is a visible presence on that debate stage – and a stark contrast to the sleazy shifty-eyed Gingrich, the thousand-mile stare of Bachmann, and the palpable insincerity of the robotic Romney. The more the mainstream media attacks Paul, the more the Republican electorate – as well as Americans of all political stripes – will rally to his cause. We shall overcome.”
Solzhenitsin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:57pmStay away from the Ronulan ale.
Report Post »Cottoneyed77
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:33pmAnd this is really the reason for his “popularity” isn’t it. Where all Jew hating, anti-Semitic, individuals can flock to and happily express their hatred behind their support of an admitted anti-Semite. A Ron Paul presidency would destabilize the Middle East and would bring all out war to the area. And would force Israel, fighting for their very survival, to use Nuclear weapons. Don’t ever underestimate the seething HATRED some have for Israel and the Jews. America has many of them but Europe is infested with them. Never, ever, underestimate this hatred for it is ancient and virulent.
Report Post »Hemingway in Cuba
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 11:54amIsrael is a great ally, but they have said time and again that they can defend themselves. Yes, they appreciate our support, but we do not need to have a parent relationship with them.
Lets remember that there is a difference between the Israeli people and the Government of Israel. Yes, the Government of Israel is the most Western-style in the Middle East, but it is not without its flaws too.
Did you know?:
Rights for sexual minorities in Israel are considered to be the most tolerant in the Middle East. While Israel has not legalized same-sex marriage, same-sex marriages valid in foreign countries are legally recognized in Israel.[60][61][dead link] Israel guarantees civil rights for its homosexual population, including adoption rights and partner benefits.[62] Israel also grants a common-law marriage status for same-sex domestic partners.
During the second Intifada, the UN Commission on Human Rights reported “widespread, systematic and gross violations of human rights perpetrated by the Israeli occupying Power, in particular mass killings and collective punishments, such as demolition of houses and closure of the Palestinian territories, measures which constitute war crimes, flagrant violations of international humanitarian law and crimes against humanity.
The State of Israel: Anointed by God or was created by man?
Support Israelis with your whole heart, but hold the Government of Israel to a higher standard and not with blind trust.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:54pmI love Ron Paul.
He may seem “radical” on foreign policy, but that‘s because we’ve made it common place for US soldiers to be spread out around the world.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:15pmIt’s a simple as this.
Let’s say the military is your offensive line, and the American people are the quarterback.
If you have your men spread out ALL over the field, your quarterback is going to get SACKED.
Ron Paul wants to bring the troops home and form a PERIMETER DEFENSE around THIS nation and ITS territorial waters, with a few strategic outposts, submarines and carriers.
That is why he receives more donations from active duty military than ALL of the other clowns combined. Even more than Ohmamma.
We are BANKRUPT and can’t afford to maintain over 900 bases in over 130 countries. We’re borrowing 43 cents out of EVERY dollar, to continue something that is unsustainable.
We have the technology to protect this Nation, but they leave the borders wide open. It is criminal.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:15pmExactly! When did “policing the world” become a conservative principal?
Report Post »robert
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:34pm” And if Iran does successfully develop nuclear weapons, as it is dangerously close to achieving, does Klein suggest that this is only Israel’s problem, and not an equally serious threat to U.S. interests both at home and abroad?”
Saying a nuclear Iran poses a threat to US security is nonsense. Iranian nuclear capabilities affect only Israel.
Klein and Ron Paul are right. The US’s expenditure of American lives and treasure benefits only Israel.
There’s a TREMENDOUS number of people in this country who are sick and tired of being lied to by the power mongers in Washington in order to take us to war.
The number of lost lives and those maimed was totally unnecessary, and it was the Bush/Rove/Chenby neo-cons who caused it all to happen.
Bring the troops home and put them on the southern border to protect THIS country.
Report Post »marion
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 1:55amThe reason we have had so few attacks on our soil is because we take the fight to the enemy, not the RP method of allowing them to come here and do their deed. How about the UN do their job and be the free world police? If the UN did the job they are designed to do we wouldn’t have to. You think our pulling out of the middle eastern area is going to have peace reign down on the whole world? No, it will start at Israel, then instantly move into the terrorist cells in Europe. Remember, most of Europe was part of the Caliphate, thus it is a simple matter of purging the non-muslims and take back their property. Why does everyone think there are muslim colonies within all these other countries in Europe wanting their own laws, rules, and lack of acclimation to the coutry lifestyles they go to? All they are doing is pre-staging and building their supply lines. Break out the nukes and whether they realize it or not, it will force WWIII and a scorched earth policy. Joe Klein in a moron at best.
Report Post »mrsalvage2
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:57amThis is tripe. Israel has never needed our help. Israel does not wnat our help. Israel will wipe out any force we send to help, just like the USS Liberty.
G-D will protect Israel, HE will
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:03pmNetanyahu agrees with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8n3Pc2pkok
Too bad there are some that think that we need to dictate to them what they should do, or not do.
The religious fanatics that squawk about “We need to defend Israel at all costs” are as dangerous as any Muslim cleric.
We need to DEFEND AMERICA FIRST and FOREMOST. Israel can take care of themselves. They have over 300 nukes. They are master weapons and defense tech manufacturers. (many times improving on or stealing our equipment designs) The Mossad is AS capable if not more capable than even our own intel agencies.
They are not some dry strip of land that will wither and die without US weapons and foreign aid.
They spy on us more than ANY other “ally” according to the GAO.
Fox News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-i3Da1D-0
They have infiltrated our Govt. through AIPAC, and their lobbying influence.
Report Post »It’s time to take OUR country back from the traitors that have shown allegiance to a foreign country before ours.
I‘m sure the mods won’t let you see this info, since they want to protect the criminals that have hijacked our Govt. Way to suppress the truth mods.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:47amWhat is Klein talking about? When did “American kids” ever fight for Israel? Israel fights its own battles: with billions of $s in US aid.
That said, it is utterly foolish for any American politician to promise to “stand with Israel” no matter what any Israeli government, any time, may decide to do. Yet that is what all Republicans imply they would, with the exception of Paul.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:55amGee. A self hating jew. Who would’ve thunk it?
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:45amThe difference between Joe Klein and me is that I don’t think we should ever send our kids to war to protect people like Joe Klein. Klein surely wouldn’t go to war for any of us.
Report Post »militiaman62656
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:35amWell, I don’t know how many journalism awards the blaze has, but Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh says there is nothing new in the IAEA report. Things are like they were in 2003. He says there Here are the links. A must read and must watch. text – http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2011/11/iran-and-the-iaea.html and video 21 minutes – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVyNk5S4SHg Merry Christmas You Blazers Happy New Year
Report Post »Watchyer6
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:29amRon Paul has exposed himself as a complete whack-job.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:00amYour continual media slander pieces are not working, the more you speak falsely the more people see the TRUTH.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:12pmTruth, now who’s talking in circles?
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:41pmI know, supporting his oath to the Constitution on EVERY single vote over 25 years IS whacky.
Standing up for principle over party IS whacky.
Wanting to save our currency from collapse is SUPER whacky.
Who can forget when he PREDICTED the financial collapse, when the other candidates were clueless. Talk about whacky tobacky!!
How about when the active duty military gave him MORE donations than ANY other candidate, including the current Prez.? Those whacky troops. What were they thinking?!? They don’t know any better about foreign policy than the chubby cheeto finger stained keyboard warriors here!!
Then there was the time he NEVER voted for a Congressional pay raise, or partook in their lucrative health insurance plan. Never voted for a tax increase. Never voted for an unbalanced budget.
Whackiness I tell you!!
The list of whackiness goes on and on and on…
I‘m just glad we’ve got sensible people like YOU to tell us who is sane and who is whacky. I wouldn’t want to think for myself and be considered a whackjob!! Must go along with the herd.
Report Post »Solzhenitsin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:55pmYou are correct. You shall now be verbally assaulted by 10,000 Ronulans.
Report Post »Blazen420
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:01amOur freedom and civil liberties are being destroyed on a daily basis by these two parties we have to choose from. Our borders are wide open and yet our government is more concerned about the borders of Israel. Both parties have had the opportunity to do something about it over the past 40 years, yet have done nothing but lie, fearmonger, and distract. They have spent trillions of dollars on repeated failed programs and wars, and if you think you are struggling to make ends meet now, how tough will it be for your children? Every single issue being discussed in the Presidential debates are the same issues every election, yet nothing gets done. Keep voting for these people if your like the current state of our country, if not vote for Ron Paul.
Report Post »kevinthewriter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:59amI agree with Ron Paul on just about everything. My only problem is he will appear weak to our enemies. I don’t want to police the world either, but I want a leader who’s got some balls. Make a statement Ron to let the world know you wouldn‘t be a pushover and you’ll have 100% of my support.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:31amYou don’t have to pull down your pants to show you have some, Anyone msn or woman that stands with the Constitution in the face of progressives and the establishment definitly has what it takes!
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:47pm@TheTruth
Report Post »EXACTLY.
If you’re the biggest guy in the bar, you don’t have to go around poking all of the little guys in the chest to prove it. Especially when you’re broke, and should be home taking care of your family first.
tommy_pete
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:45amJoe Klien, the Liberal Slime, from the Yellow Rag Time. Poetry…
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:59am“A bunch of advisors, most of whom are Jewish anyways — because he has more Jews in his cabinet than Netanyahu. He’s jammed up with Jews all around him — and they told him, if you wanna get them back, Hanukkah is a good idea,” Mason said.
So a fellow Jew (Jackie Mason) openly admits what I’ve been trying to point out for years… I’m called an anti-Semite for pointing it out yet this man plainly tells you that Obama and he could have said Bill Clinton (basically the same administrations) have more Jews in their administration than Netanyahu has in his???
For the record I think we all realize that Klein is Jewish as well sitting atop one of the most liberal/Marxist magazines in the country.. So when will we as a collective come to the realization that this Klan has simply amassed too much power in America and is detrimental to the future of our Republic?
Can we have a debate?
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:07amJoe Klein is and always has been an @$$, and has forever been trumpeting the tunes of liberal media. Shamefully, there are either a significant number of plants on the blaze, or those who simply have nominal understanding at best, of matters concerning the best interest of America and the American people, and what is actually occurring upon the world stage between the elitists, Islam, Communism and their puppets, like Barack Hussein Obama. Unfortunately there are many more puppets, whose extent and perforation are growing and proliferate the various levels of power.
Report Post »Be very careful of whom you choose to replace Obama, and he will be replaced.
tommy_pete
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:41pm@Techengineer11
Report Post »Normally when I post, I’ll state something of an opinion on the content of the article. In this case it was about Joe Klien, the Liberal Slime, from the Yellow-Rag Time. I couldn’t care less about Jewish or any other affiliation, religion, or ethnicity. He could be a blind rabbit typing on a keyboard (though that would be a novelty for a while). It’s about the position he takes on a broad variety of issues. Carbonyes is absolutely correct when he points out how much of a jackass Klien is.
techengineer11
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:07pmtommy_pete: Sure. And I only replied because your post was at the top of the page. I too didn’t care about the race or ethnicity of anyone either until I come to the realization of how much power and influence which this very small minority holds in America and the world. I guess if you are ignorant to it it doesn‘t matter that much but when one becomes aware it’s truly mind boggling!
I’ve been trying to have this debate on the Blaze for over a year! My comments are censored probably greater than 50% of the time when I approach this topic but when I saw the occasion to quote a Jewish person saying what i‘ve been saying for years I couldn’t resist.
In times past I would have avoided this debate and this issue all together but now I believe it is the most pressing issue in all of America. Anyway I see America and the Blaze is not ready for it… but I’ll keep trying.. lol
Report Post »Naps
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:39amAmerica! Don’t believe the warmongerers …..PLEASE! Iran is no threat to the world. Especially America.
Report Post »Our biggest threat is BANKRUPTCY!!! Please find it in your heart to do your own research on RON PAUL,he truly is our last chance to get this country back on the right path. He wants a strong defense,a strong currensy,and our liberties protected. Obama is sh!!!ing bricks at the possibility of running against Dr. Paul. So please remember that the truth is not always comforting and pleasent. But at the end of the day…it is still the TRUTH.
Ron Paul or none at all
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:58amRon Paul’s foreign policy does not revolve around Israel….Does it effect Israel, yes (and for the better), but is not a hate of Israel. It is an understanding that we can’t afford to keep the empire, which is true. Using this same tactic, that would make the claims that “Republicans hate poor people and want them to die” true, because they don’t want them to have health care.
Yeah I know this was a statement by a liberal, but all the Paul hating republicans will agree with it.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:53amBallot_Box: well said, re Paul. So why do all the other GOP hopefuls’ foreign policies seem to revolve around Israel? The Jewish lobby, of course–don’t discount AIPAC. But also hopped-up evangelical Christians, who need to settle down and realize that the end of the State of Israel would not be the end for the Jewish people–“Israel” in the original sense.
Report Post »stairgauge
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 12:21amAmerica dont believe the warmongers…..PLEASE…..Germany is not a threat…circa 1934
Report Post »America dont believe the warmongers….PLEASE…..Japan is not a threat….circa 1928
America dont believe the warmongers…PLEASE….Russia is not a threat….circa 1964
America dont believe the warmongers..PLEASE… Iraq is not a threat….circa 1989
America dont believe the warmongers…PLEASE…Iran is not a threat…circa 2011
America,,,America…Oh America…mommy what is America ?…America was a nation whos people after about 250 years of freedom became a nation[ in general ] of fools in the age of stupidity ….Mommy…what is freedom ? hush MUMO get your prayer rug.
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:59am“The reality is Ron Paul is poised to become a major figure in the Republican Party if his momentum continues and he’s able to win in Iowa,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, who managed the campaign of Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the party’s 2008 nominee.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:53am@CARBON EYES
Report Post »WE THE PEOPLE are not interested in being governed by irrational propaganda that is designed to herd the sheeple into submission, please keep your kool-aid, WE THE PEOPLE are thirsting for true Liberty and Freedom.
speaking_truth_to_power
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:44am“Iran does successfully develop nuclear weapons, as it is dangerously close to achieving, does Klein suggest that this is only Israel’s problem, and not an equally serious threat to U.S. interests both at home and abroad?”
No, Iran getting a nuclear weapon is *not* a threat to U.S. interests anywhere. They don’t have the capabilities to use a nuclear weapon on us if they had one, they are not going to use a nuclear weapon on a neighbor when the fallout would immediately blow back on themselves, not to mention that Israel would immediately respond with one of their own 200-300 nuclear weapons. We spent 40 years with thousands of USSR nukes pointed at us and didn’t go to war. If Israel thinks Iran is a threat, let them take out Iran’s facilities. I’m a Christian, I‘m for Israel’s existence, but bombing innocent women and children in Iran to prevent some hypothetical threat is absolutely unethical and unChristian.
Report Post »Captain Webb
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:01amBravo! Bravo!
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:39amShows your limited understanding of Iran, Islam and TheDamnNutJob that runs the country along with the ayatollahs. Do not for one moment discount the potential and/or actual use of nuclear weapons by Iran.
Do not think that they would not hesitate to take out one of our carriers with a city of Americans imbedded there.
Wake up to reality, SPEAKING_TRUTH_TO_POWER, appears you know littler about truth or power, particularly when dealing with the Middle East and the Muslim mindset. They neither think nor act like we do, nor as the common man.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:19pmMy question is who will be Israel’s friend when we are a failed, bankrupt nation?
The best thing we can do for Israel at this point is SURVIVE and more war debt works against that objective.
Report Post »Vegasdad702
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:30amHey friends, please be kind to each other. I know its hard to not get upset when we see the things that don’t align with or beliefs or principles, but That doesn’t mean we cant be intelligent and kind. I think if we wish to bring people to our candidate it will only happen by reaching out to them with truth and love, not anger and insults. That said, I believe Ron Paul is the only candidate that really represents the Constitution, and true civil liberties. Iran, is a threat, sure. But what are we going to do? Go to war with them preemptively? Or live by our principles of Freedom? Its the same as Gun control. You cannot prevent some evil nut job from getting a gun and doing bad things no matter how many laws you make, or control you take. The media constantly bombarded us with stories of how WE CAN’T ALLOW NORTH KOREA TO BECOME NUCLEAR! Well they did and we cant do anything unless they act first. This is one of the costs of freedom. I support Israel, I support Glenn Beck, he has effected my life tremendously and I agree with 99% of his opinions. He’s the only person that has made me question Dr. Paul, but Glenn has said a thousand times, “We must be a people of princple”, Well my principles are in line with Civil Liberty. I cannot compromise that for ANYTHING! I understand Glenn has a lot riding on him, I cant imagine how hard his job is, but these other journalists who are starting to give Congressman Paul some credit are right to do so. Thank you please be kind to each
Report Post »gs425
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:27amBut I guess two world wars fought for Europe are OK? Fa-king azzhat.
Report Post »streetfighter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:10amShould Iran develop a nuke it becomes Irans problem. what do they do with it? One and done for Iran should they ever choose to use it.
Report Post »I dont believe Iran is a suicide nation
Ron Staiger
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:59amSince before Obama’s election, I have been saying that Baraaaack is the biggest danger to the Jew since Adolph Hitler. Well, now we have a new boy on the block- Ron Paul. What a friggin’ wackjob!
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:26amYour regurgitated talking points don’t make any sense to anyone other than the corrupt military industrisl complex and corporation profit centers. Iran WOULD have to test a nuke and that is impossible to do without the “ world ” knowing it, at that point Isreal could drop one of their 300 nukes on them if it made them feel safer. What you fanatic warwhores don’t grasp is that Iran could easily by nukes from Russia or China if they wanted, WHAT THEN YOU CLOWNS? Are we going to have war with those countries “ just in case ”? This is nothing more than YOUR own goverment controlling you through fear and propaganda.
“The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”Hermann GoeringGerman Nazi marshal & politician (1893 – 1946)
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:30amNot wanting to play security guard for the world is not a leftist ideology.
It’s conservative.
It’s to conserve our own nation because we are BROKE!!!
RON PAUL 2012.
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:28amWhy is Isreal allowed to have undecleared and uninspected nukes?
Report Post »hitofly
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:25amFinally the truth and from a liberal Jew. When will we be done with these Neo-Cons and their wars?
Draft their kids and lets see if they still want to bomb Iran and have their kids die to spread this stupid democracy thing.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:49amLiberal Jews are no different than any other “liberal”. They neither think straight and lack common sense, nor do they understand that there are competing forces of good and evil in this world. Therefore, they are easily duped into the false belief that you can hold up the peace sign and put flowers in your hair and everyone will be lubby-dubby. Will never happen. The evil empire, and there are several, can only be countered with a show of force and the willingness to use it, if necessary.
Report Post »Blight14
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:35amMr Klein, you sir are 100% correct and I commend you! No more wars for I$rael…….In addition, the next subject needs to be the ‘aid’ we send them, billions of dollars annually plus billions in munitions, equipment, etc….That too needs to end asap!
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:57amAnother poster who speaks as a fool, who again does not understand the balance of power, and who is and isn’t our friend in the Middle East, and why it is important to maintain a strong counter force to the spread of Islam in the Middle East.
Report Post »Islam is not now, nor can or ever will be an ally or friend in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world. another reason why Obama must be dispatched to the rubbish pile of the earth. He does not just empathize with Islam and “his Muslim faith”, as he himself admitted, but he is a promoter of their evil agenda and an enemy of Israel. He is not just jeopardizing the future of this nation, but is actively at work to destroy America.
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:55amYes Dr Ron Paul has more people supporting him from every party than any other canidate. He is the only one that can beat obama and ALL the polls show this! Time to get on board people!
Report Post »Solzhenitsin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:58pmOh! >Swoon<- he's the THE ONLY ONE! Where have we heard this before? Where did the buyers take us as a result?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:52am“TIME’S JOE KLEIN: IOWANS LIKE RON PAUL BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT TO ‘SEND AMERICANS KIDS OFF TO WAR, YET AGAIN, TO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL’”
Report Post »Yup (if by “Iowans” you mean Iowan Republicans–Iowan Leftists probably dislike him for other reasons additionally)–the central division on the Right between libertarians and conservatives is over statism.