Christian Leader Tony Perkins: Evangelicals Could Back Any Leading Conservative in 2012
- Posted on August 24, 2011 at 1:11pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, spoke with Lou Dobbs on Fox Business Tuesday and assessed the current field of Republicans running for president in 2012.
The influential leader among social conservatives suggested that in his opinion the former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum could all harness the support of the evangelical community.
“Their all conservatives,” said Perkins. “They’ve have all staked out very socially conservative positions.”
Perkins’ validation of Romney contradicts earlier media perceptions that the Massachusetts Mormon could have trouble winning over the evangelical base. Perkins told Dobbs Tuesday that when it comes down to it, any of the four leading candidates would be an acceptable alternative to Barack Obama.
“I think what’s going to happen is that, in the end, you’re going to see a much more unified, conservative voting bloc than you did in 2008. What you’re going to see are conservatives rallying to a candidate that will be- beat and replace Barack Obama in the White House.”
Evangelicals for Mitt writes that since its inception in 2006 the case for Mitt Romney has only grown stronger:
“We want a candidate who shares our political and moral values and priorities, can win in 2012, and can govern effectively thereafter by articulating and implementing an intelligent, values-based governing strategy. This is just what Mitt Romney did as governor, this is just what Mitt Romney did in business, and this is what he would do as president.”
Perkins also expressed interest in Rick Perry’s candidacy:
“Now with Rick Perry in, its kind of a whole new ball game.”
The Evangelical community has made up a strong portion of the Republican voting block in the past. The Hill writes on the movement’s importance in recent Presidential elections:
“There was a sense that in 2008, a number of evangelicals who were unenthused about Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) as the Republican nominee stayed home. James Dobson, another influential evangelical leader who heads Focus on the Family, had disparaged McCain before reluctantly endorsing the GOP nominee in the late stages of the campaign.
Evangelical Christians and social conservatives have traditionally been an important base of support for Republicans, arguably reaching an apex during the election and reelection of President George W. Bush.”
If you consider yourself part of the Evangelical community and are not in support of Gov. Romney, what are some of your reservations against him? If you support him tell us why. If not Mitt, who do you believe would be the best candidate for Evangelicals?
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Comments (179)
danreide
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:17pmWon’t vote for a Mormon. Mormons are not Chirsitans. This is not an attack on the character of the people who believe in the teachings of Joesph Smith.The reason Mormonism is not Christian is because it denies one or more of the essential doctrines of Christianity. Of the essential doctrines (that there is only one God, Jesus is God in flesh, forgiveness of sins is by grace alone, and Jesus rose from the dead physically, the gospel being the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus), Mormonism denies three of them: how many gods there are, the person of Jesus, and His work of salvation.
I will not elevate the deception of Mormonism by voting for a mormon. Mormons will affirm they are not christian as they will not allow a Mormon to marry anyone but a fellow Mormon. They cannot marry a Baptist, Prestryterian, Anglican, Catholic, just a fellow Mormon. This is their teaching. Mormons are not Christian.
I find it surprising that Tony Perkins would encourage the supporting of a presidential canadates religion that is diametrically opposed to the teaching of Jesus Christ and the Bible.
In my mind this is different than voting for an agnostic or atheistic canidate (if one was viably running for POTUS).
LibertyGoddess
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:14pmI will never vote for an Evangelical. I used to think they were true followers of Christ until I did some further inspection. The mega churches and paid ministry are no-no’s in the new testament. The continual changing interpretation of the scriptures is a no-no (thus so many branches of modern day Christianity). The lack of charity towards their fellow man, especially those of another faith is a no-no. What happened to the second commandment to love your fellow man as yourself. I could go on. I could continue to insult and provide one evidence after another why they have fallen away from the teachings of Christ, but I will let their actions convict them.
Don’t vote for a Mormon if he is not the best candidate, but you will get another 4 years of Obama. If you are voting for Perry, you are no different than the Obamaites who voted based on good looks and lack of substance.
When Evangelicals shrink the GOP tent to only their flavor of religion over character and credentials , they deserve exactly what is wrong with this country.
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:19pmWOW, THAT IS LIKE SAYING I WON’T VOTE FOR A BLACK, CATHOLIC, OR A CHRISTIAN. SHAME ON YOU…
Where did you get the junk you are spreading, completely false. Mormons marry non-Mormons all the time, I have a friend that’s not a Mormon who is married to one and they are in good standing with their church.
I think you need to let those boys in suits come in so you can ask them to set you straight if you believe that stuff about them. In my opinion, MORMONS ARE CHRISTIANS.
Report Post »Greg
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 9:51pmDANREIDE, I appreciate your separation of a person’s character and their beliefs but you really have no clue what you are talking about. The next time you come into contact with Mormon missionaries take a few minutes to at least get a better understanding of them. Even if you politely inform them that you have no interest in converting they will still be happy to take the time to discuss their beliefs with you. They may not be able to answer all your questions, after all they are still young and have a lot to learn themselves but they will be eager to find the answer and get back to you.
Report Post »dcubed
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 9:52pmWow, Danreide! You’re loathing for the Mormons is blinding your rational thinking.
Report Post »1. Thankfully, Mormons don’t need your approval to be considered Christian. That is strictly between the individual Mormon and Jesus Christ.
2. No, your diatribe is an attack on the character of Mormons. Most Mormons I know are honest, descent, hard-working, country- and family-loving people who strive to live the principles Christ taught. Their character is the “fruits” or evidence of their religion. And I think it was Christ who said, “By their fruits, you will know them,“ and ”An evil tree can not bring forth good or righteous fruit.”
3. Your tired half-truths and misrepresentations of Mormonism are evidence of your insincerity.
4. I have yet to read a post from a Mormon saying they would never vote for Michelle Bauchman simply because she is an Evangelical. So apparently, Mormons are more tolerant and have Christ-like compassion than you.
5. In case you haven’t noticed, our Nation is in serious trouble.Because you choose not to vote for someone, solely for their religion, shows you are part of the problem; because you’d rather settle for Obama than vote for a Mormon. At least Tony Perkins understands this and is essentially saying, “It’s time for all good, righteous, God-fearing people to come together. Let’s put our doctrinal differences aside and fight together to save the Greatest Nation on Earth.”
joe1234
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:02pmdcubed…which Jesus? the jesus of the mormons is not the Jesus of the bible. your ‘jesus’ is a created being..the real Jesus is the eternal God of the universe.
that said, i don’t care if romney is a mormon or not…I won’t vote for him because of romneycare.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:41pmSo we can then assume your vote will go to the Marxist Black Liberation Theology candidate?
Report Post »Trex
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:23pmDANREIDE, dude, what have you been smoking? Truth really doesn’t matter to you does it?
Report Post »laytonshape
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:52amSir with all due respect. I AM SOOOO TIRED of this stupidity. We are NOT electing a preacher!!! We are electing a president. Mormons ARE VERY MUCH Christians with different interpretation of the teachings of Christ. Like EVERY OTHER Christian denomination. NO MORE MORMON bashing in a free country with freedom of religion… remember the concept? Thank you for allowing me to share.
Report Post »dcubed
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:15amTo JOE1234: Not to vote for Romney over his political stance is OK. As a Mormon, Romney is not #1 on my list. I wouldn’t vote for him just because he was a Mormon. That‘s as idiotic as NOT voting for him just because he’s Mormon.
Report Post »As to your question of which Jesus do I worship; I didn’t realize there was another. To be clear, here is the Jesus I asked into my life: He’s the Son of God, humbly born in the Meridian of Time to a young Judean virgin. At 30 He began His earthly ministry to accomplish His Father’s will. He taught of love, peace and hope; set an example for His followers to emulate. His teachings bring joy in this life and the promise Eternal Life. At 33. He was sentenced to die during an illegal trial. He suffered a most cruel and inhumane death. Only after fulfilling all His Father asked of him, did He willingly give up His life upon the cross. He suffered for my sins & offers me His Mercy and Grace. 3 days later He arose from the dead and LIVES TODAY! He’s my Redeemer, Savior, King, Advocate to the Father and my Friend. He comforts me in sorrow, beckons me to do my best, and freely forgives me when I fail. I KNOW, because of his GRACE, the day will come when I will kneel at His feet and hear Him say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant. Enter, ye, into My rest.THIS is the Jesus I worship. When I asked Him about your question, He assured me I don’t need your approval for Our relationship to be true, valid and everlasting.
Chuck Stein
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:41amAnalogy: the Council of Nicea (which cooked up the doctrine of the “Trinity”)
Report Post »is to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as
the Taney Supreme Court (which cooked up the logic of the Dred Scott decision)
is to the U.S. Constitution
LiberTEA for ALL
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:20amDid you learn that in your Sunday School class? Instead of wasting my time with being offended by your complete ignorance, I will choose to live by the example that I have seen this day. To you, I say “Adonai li, v’lo ira”.
Report Post »jkendal
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:05pmThe truth is, if you don’t vote GOP next year, no matter who the candidate is, then you’re perfectly fine with the status quo – perfectly fine with the president thumbing his nose at the Constitution – doing all he can to further the marxist agenda by whatever means he can – either through unelected bureaucracies like the EPA or by his many illegal Executive Orders (pick one) – the law be damned!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:22pm“Of the essential doctrines (that there is only one God, Jesus is God in flesh, forgiveness of sins is by grace alone, and Jesus rose from the dead physically, the gospel being the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus), Mormonism denies three of them”
Actually, Mormonism fully accepts all the essential doctrines you laid out.
“how many gods there are”
In Mormon worship there is only one God the Father who receives the glory of all things and who is greater than the Son: “28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
” (John 14).
“Won’t vote for a Mormon”
Good, then don’t. Good luck with that vote.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:25pm“the jesus of the mormons is not the Jesus of the bible”
This should say, “the jesus of the mormons is not [my interpretation of] the Jesus of the bible”
Fixed it for you, Joe. And I agree.
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:52pmI am a Mormon who was formerly Baptist who was born a Catholic. I was born abroad as an American in the Panama Canal Zone. I was raised to value my American heritage. I began each day with hand over heart pledging my allegiance and the Lord’s prayer. We sang our national anthem and that of the host nation as well out of reverance. I can honestly say that I’ve never voted for anyone on the basis of their religion , it just has never been a factor. Back then, I believed (and I believe correctly) that only the people of the highest caliber, the most honorable, the most character driven, principled centered people qualified for the office of the Presidency of the United States.
Report Post »I voted not for a person, or any temporal institution but rather for a value, a notion, a belief and era of decency, respect, and inherent goodness. A time when you could actually trust in the security that our homes and neighborhoods were a safe havens and that the government worked to protect our values. I love that quintessentially American feeling. It was real for me then and I believe it is still with us today if we believe it to be so and then act accordingly.
In a field of really exceptional candidates, I have but one desire from them.
To love our God (our Judeo-Christian Heritage), our Families (husbands, wives and their children), and our Country (the last best hope of the world through Jesus Christ).
God Blesses US!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=P31tziQsEFw&NR=1
truthisnotsubjective
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:06pmAMERICANFIRST- If Romney becomes President, then he will further the idea that Mormonism is the same as Christianity. This is my biggest issue that I have with Beck, as well. I love these guys and am concerned for all who are following their “god(s)”. Check this out and then comment:
Report Post »http://www.gty.org/Resources/Questions/QA103
God is Spirit and must be worshiped in spirit and in TRUTH. The Mormon god, Jesus and way of salvation are completely false and leading millions to hell.
Darren
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:02pm“The Mormon god, Jesus and way of salvation are completely false and leading millions to hell.”
Thanks for that!
/sarcasm off
Mormons follow one God. Period. They believe in coming unto the Father through the Son. Though the LDS believe they are two separate physical divine beings, they are, indeed, One Eternal God.
as for your link (which I found to be really REALLY weird): “Since we are uniquely provided with an exclusive role on earth, we can expect differences in how God shapes our future. Redeemed humanity will be in heaven praising God, particularly for His redemption provided in Christ. Unredeemed humanity will exist in eternal torment for their sinful disobedience and rejection of Christ. We have moral souls accountable to God even after our bodies die (Heb. 9:27).” Well, that’s pretty much what the Mormons believe.
Would you vote for Romney for president?
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:16pmDon’t really care if you believe Mormons are Christians! Mormons represent Christ better than you do, so clearly Mormons stand more morally in the light than you or anyone else who holds your slanted bigoted views! You’re a disgrace to any religion that believes in a loving God! You‘re clearly an atheist who hasn’t figured it out yet!
Report Post »dallas20001
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 1:43pmDANREIDE your a complete religious bigot, two you have no idea what your talking about when it comes to what Mormons believe. If you didn‘t know it’s not called the Mormon church it’s called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. In complete connection with the Church of Jesus Christ as established by Christ when he was on the earth. To say we are not Christians is to be naive or totally uninformed. We recognize Jesus as the Christ who died for our sins and saved us from our sins through grace. Jesus is the first born son of the father which is God as explained in the Bible you might want to read about that before you attack someone’s religion.
Report Post »I like Romney as a candidate but I don‘t love him as a candidate there are a few thing that he has said and voted for that I totally disagree with i’m not voting for him just cause he‘s a Mormon i’ll vote for him if he is the best candidate to beat Barack Hussein Obama.
TombstoneJim
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:24pmYou sir are ignorant. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we teach of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of the Father. We preach of his mission of salvation to all of those who will indeed believe, follow and live His teachings.
You are one of those who follow the metaphysical balderdash that entered Christianity at the council of Nicea, where a polytheist forced the hand of the gathered leaders to adopt the unholy trinity as their watch word.
Christ lives, resurrected after three days in the tomb to the same body that he used to bear the cross…now perfected and immortal. Father did not make a mockery of people when He spoke from the heavens at the baptism of His Son – to paraphrase “in whom He was well pleased”. Nor did Christ Himself do so when, upon the cross he spoke in Luke 23:46 “And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.”
Support whom you will politically, but leave your ignorant claims about LDS doctrine behind – or as my grandfather used to say “is better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”…
Report Post »twotwins
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 10:30pmIs there a reason you won’t speak to anyone who became a Mormon? Wrong color skin? How about a Buddist? Won’t vote for them either? Zen work for you? How about Jewish? Or are you in the camp that likes to kill them? It just simply HAS to be a religion that you approve of eh! And that malarky about Mormons won’t let Mormons marry anyone but a Mormon. My Jewish husband would take issue with that. Either you are way to young to understand the BIG issues of this world . . . . . or . . . . . . . oh never mind. I will stay polite unlike you.
Report Post »fastash
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:16pmWe are Christian. We believe 1) in God the Eternal Father and 2) in His Son Jesus Christ and 3) in the Holy Ghost. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ all menkind may be saved by obedience to the law and ordinances of the Gospel which is a broken heart and a contrite spirit for the sin we have committed. We believe that salvation is eternal life: living side by side with God. Our church does not encourage marrying outside of the faith because the faith of that person marrying outside the faith will be shaken. Was not Esau worse off for marrying a Hittite? Did not the Lord command Isaac, Esau, Jacob and His people to marry within the faith? That doesn‘t mean we Mormons hate the guts of every person that isn’t Mormon. We are taught by the Gospel of Jesus Christ to love everyone. We are Christian we believe in Christ. But you are right, an effective way of gauging a person’s character is the religion they follow. Might I add that a twin standard to that is how they live it?
Report Post »bioengineer
Posted on August 27, 2011 at 1:31pm@danreide, Sir, if self-righteous bigots like you are “Chrisitan,” count me proud not to be labeled as one by the likes of you. Thank you for making the clear distinction. Proud Mormon!
BTW, aren’t you just an apostate spinoff of the Catholic church? I don’t recall them giving you permission to go start a new religion. So where exactly does your authority to speak on behalf of God come from? The Bible? Oh, you mean your interpretation of the Bible, a translation of a translation of a translation of some other original book that doesn’t exist anymore? So not based on spiritual guidance, but a book? Paper with ink? So, what you‘re saying is that you’re really just an idol worshipper? The Bible is your graven image! When people in the Old Testament were worshipping a golden calf that wasn’t literal. The calf was just a hunk of metal, what they were worshipping was their concept of God that the calf represented. So the Bible is your graven image and you’re nothing more than an utterly uninspred idol worshipper. Ha ha ha. Your last name isn’t Phelps is it?
Report Post »marjorie faye
Posted on August 27, 2011 at 7:54pmYou people better take a good cold look at the reality we are facing and decide whether or not you want four more years of Barack Obama. The truth is, we don’t have the luxury of fooling around until Mr. Perfect comes along. We aren’t electing a Pastor-In-Chief. Personally I am not for Mitt Romney, but I will vote for him if he’s the candidate. I prefer Rick Perry, and I honestly hope he gets the nomination because he has what it takes to win the election. Unless a person is a Satanist, I will vote for him if he’s conservative on both social and fiscal issues. The President is a secular office. The important thing to know is his attitude toward the issues we care about. For those who are interested, the New Testament says to pray for leaders who will leave us in peace to practice our faith. I take that to mean that is also the sort we should vote for, don’t you?
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 28, 2011 at 2:18pmWell, I’m certainly not voting for Obama…
Report Post »LibertarianForLife
Posted on August 29, 2011 at 1:28amAll religion is complete nonsense, so its pretty much picking your poision.
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:56amtest
Report Post »sandrac
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:47pmJust watch who the media and POTUS are going after?
Report Post »that is who they fear the most and need to tear down-that is Rick Perry.
Say what you want about Perry, but a Perry/Obama debate will be a sight to see!
Sorry for Mitt, he has been running for so long….but their is a new sheriff in town!
fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:21pmWHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE, THEY ATTACK THOSE THEY FEAR AND ROMNEY, PERRY, AND BACHMANN ARE UNDER ATTACK.
Romney probably more than the other two though.
Report Post »Notsureishoulddothis
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:03amFor what it’s worth, I’m with you on this one. I will not vote for Romney (unless he’s the candidate in the general election) because he’s too squishy on what he actually believes. Changing one’s mind as one matures is fine, even commendable, but he doesn’t seem to stand on firm ground over a long period of time. I’ve talked to Texans, even ones who don‘t like Perry’s decisions, and what they say about Perry is that he’s a man of integrity and principle, plus on top of that he’s strong enough to stand firm when the heat is on. I think that’s the kind of man we need now. I hope Perry doesn’t prove them wrong and have some scandal appear though!
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:25pmThey don’t fear Perry! You don’t understand politics very well! Obozo attacks Perry to give him media attention…they know that will happen. They are afraid of Romney and don’t want him to get any press time! Romney can take the independents and conservatives, which gives him the certain win! Obozo needs the independents! They want republicans to defend Perry against their accusations and rally behind him! It brings a certain win for Obozo because without independents (who will definitely not support Perry), Obozo wins a second term. Republicans better see the division being caused and get behind Romney and drive him to the White House on their shoulders! Go for Perry like Obozo wants you to, and Obozo wins for sure.
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:37pmDECUBED–Amen and well said!!! Your truly a follower of christ!
Report Post »No Race Is Superior
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:12pmUKmac
Report Post »Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:28pm
You should drop all the hate and anger…that is what is truely evil.
Love your brothers…don’t be a hateful bigot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That post is best served if it is directed at the satanicTeaParty AKA Republican Party aka KKK in suits.
GodBlessGB
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:44pmI agree with your first statement “religious leader”. There is only one religious leader and that is our lord Jesus Christ. The rest of your reply was disappointing. Liberalism and Christianity do not go hand and hand. The people you are backing are trying to abolish the Christian faith here in America.
Report Post »We need a leader that is STRONGLY for Jesus and that leads by his faith. God said if you are not for me you are against me. If we have a president that is leading without good morals that is like the blind leading the blind. My point is that you cannot be a democrat and be a Christian!
walkwithme1966
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:58pmThis Perkins guy is a joke – do some research on him and you will be surprised!!
Report Post »http://wp.me/pYLB7-1yu
STQ
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:37pmThe Deception of Mitt Romney……AUTHOR,AMY CONTRADA….Mr. Perkins will soon be offering a retraction,would be my guess
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:48pmTrust me, Rick Perry’s no less fake…
http://markamerica.com/2011/08/24/rick-perry-shows-his-true-nature/
Not that I think much of Romney, but replacing one RINO with the RINO with the drawl isn’t the answer.
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:21pmSTQ–Mitt Romney is the right man for president! He is the only one in the field who has been thoroughly vetted inside and out! It’s been enough years on the national stage to know that he has no skeletons in his closet and is widely respected for his character and integrity! You know very little about any of the other candidates! None of them have the staying power and leadership Romney has shown over and over again! Perry? On the national stage for a whole week and outraged GOP insiders and shamed himself! Don’t make stupid comments!
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:25pmPERRY IS A GOOD CHOICE BUT HE HAS MANY PROBLEMS HE NEEDS TO ANSWER FOR…
1) He thinks a border fence is ridiculous: http://url2it.com/haqf .
His plan is supported by Democrats: http://url2it.com/haqe
His own Dream Act plan of 2001 and the instate tuition.
2) His support for the HPV mandate and then when it wasn’t going to pass he had multiple sob story press conference to pressure the legislature.
There are many more issues and these are not issues that will take him out of the running but must be asked at the next debate for him to answer.
Report Post »Ron Staiger
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:34pmI would vote for any person running against obama. The most dispicable Republican- say someone like Specter, actually a RINO morphed quasi-democrat, or one of those dumb bitches from Maine would get my vote if they were running against this marxist pig! Don‘t set the bar too high if you’re trying to jump over the latrine.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:20pmSad, but true.
Report Post »Aaryq
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:26pmSince when did this guy speak on behalf of all evangelicals? It’s like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speaking on behalf of all blacks. I’m black. I do not agree with either of those two men. I’m an evangelical. I will not vote for ANY conservative. I understand the difference between faith and government and will vote to elect the person most qualified for the job regardless of their political party (though my vote doesn’t count since I vote in ND). The President should believe in the constitution and I don’t care if about religion, race, gender, residence (assuming they’re American), sexual orientation or anything else so long as they will execute the duties set forth in the US Constitution; no more, no less. God Almighty puts our leaders into office (Romans 13:1) and we must support them. American Christians shouldn’t vote for someone because of the church they attend but instead because of their qualifications. If we put hard line Christians into office and they push thorugh laws beneficial to Christians, I’m sure we would like it…but it sets a nasty precident for when a non-Christain (anti-Christian) Majority takes over, allowing them to pass laws that are benificial to their religion and/or detrimental to ours.
Report Post »Share your faith. Love your neighbours as yourself. Do good things without expectation of reward in the name of Jesus Christ. Pray for those appointed above you. But don’t let your religious views cloud your political judgment.
Jenny Lind
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:40pmThank you for saying it so well.
Report Post »sensibleadult
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:31pmYou disagree with virtually all of the founding fathers. Now, to whom should we listen; you- who have no problem voting against everything you supposedly believe, or the framers, who were men of deep religious conviction, and believed candidates with Christian principles make the best leaders?
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:59pm@sensibleadult
Well said and might I add backed up by factual history.
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian”
George Washington, The Writings of Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1932), Vol. XI, pp. 342-343, General Orders of May 2, 1778
“The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and the divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ”
.Journal of the House of the Representatives of the United States of America (Washington, DC: Cornelius Wendell, 1855), 34th Cong., 1st Sess., p. 354, January 23, 1856; see also: Lorenzo D. Johnson, Chaplains of the General Government With Objections to their Employment Considered (New York: Sheldon, Blakeman & Co., 1856), p. 35, quoting from the House Journal, Wednesday, January 23, 1856, and B. F. Morris, The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States (Philadelphia: George W. Childs, 1864), p. 328
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:12amAwesomely said.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:24pm“The influential leader among social conservatives suggested that in his opinion the former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum could all harness the support of the evangelical community.”
Well said, Mr. Perkins.
For those who question Romney’s conservatism (and many doubt are legitimate) let me share what I’m convinced Romney will do or support pushing through Congress as President:
1) Dramatically reduce overall government spending
2) Decrease taxes
3) End Obamacare
4) Not allow universal healthcare to be paid for at the federal level
5) Increase states sovereignty
6) and what is perhaps the most overlooked issue for 2012: nominate a constitutional originalist to the Supreme Court after Ginsburg retires
for those who will not vote for Romney because he is Mormon, then don’t. I really do not careto engage you, pursuade you, or argue against such foolishness. When the election comes down between Obama and Romney, then all I’ll have to say is, “good luck with that vote”.
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:34pmI believe Romney appointed a a Liberal Republican, a Democrat, and I believe an independent (not exactly sure about this ) to the Massuchesetts Supreme Court. Not a great Conservative record.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:43pm4freedomssake-if he put people in who believe in the constitution, it does not matter what party they belong to, it’s all about attitude toward law.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:48pmObama 39%, Paul 38%
Report Post »http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_39_paul_38
Darren
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:38pm4freedom;
I do believe you‘re correct but what I stated is what I’m convinced he’ll do now. I would not believe he’ll appoint liberal/moderate judges during his term. Reagan and Bush did as well. But when Ginsburg retires, I’m 100% convinced he’l nominate a constitutional originalist to the bench of the Supreme Court. The GOP is highly likely to take the US Senate in 2012 and with them in it, a constitutional originalist nominee would be very likely to pass.
Expect the media to sceam and cry when that happens.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:48pmMan, I do need an edit feature.
I meant to say that I would not be surprised if Romney appoints some liberal and moderate judges to the nation’s courts during his term as President. Reagan and Bush did as well.
Report Post »NatTurner2011
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:19pmEvil begets Evil… Evengelist and all other religious political fundamental groups are All demon in my book (no matter there ethnicity) and they only advocate for Demons. All conservatives are Demons in my book. NT
Report Post »UKmac
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:28pmYou should drop all the hate and anger…that is what is truely evil.
Report Post »Love your brothers…don’t be a hateful bigot.
joe1234
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:11pmhey gomer…you said “(no matter there ethnicity”
uh its ‘their’ no ‘there’ you libs aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are…
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:46pmNatTurner2011
Just cant fix stupid.
Report Post »staxmarshall
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:12pmSorry, but I am very disappointed when well meaning and respected Christian leaders like Mr. Perkins say things like that. Any 2012 candidate? Mitt Romney is not a conservative and some of the others are at best quasi-conservative. RINO Romney is a wolf in sheeps clothing. The enemy you don’t know is more dangerous than the enemy you do know.
FACT: Not one judge that sits on the United States Supreme Court today is Pro-Life.
FACT: Every single judge that sits on the United States Supreme Court today was appointed by a REPUBLICAN president.
Report Post »johnnycarson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:19pmMitt Romney is the ONLY GOP candidate that stands a chance to win the nomination, not to mention the election. Sorry, but it’s true.
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:29pmSonia Sotomayer and Ginzburg were appointed by Democrat Presidents.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:27pmSoooo . . . Scalia, Alito and Thomas are not pro-life? I wonder about your definition of “pro-life.” Ginsberg, and Breyer were appointed by Clinton and Sotomayor and Kagan were appointed by Obama. I wonder about your definition of “democrat.”
Anyway, Romney-Rubio is looking more likely every day (and I hope that Romney pledges to be a one-termer and hand it over to Rubio).
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:03pmWhat a coincidence, theblazers too. any candidate, their dog, a ham sandwich… very patriotic
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:06pmGive me an effing break, fairy. I suppose you’ll lockstep vote for the Magic Mulatto. Stay black, yo!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:49pmThe fairy supports the Marxist Black Liberation Theology Candidate. Speaks volumes comrade!
Report Post »TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:52pm“Evangelicals Could Back Any Leading Conservative in 2012”
..”any..conservative…” — well, I guess they don’t like mr. romenycare.
Report Post »BecksTheMan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:54pmHe has stated he will begin the process from day one as President to overturn Obamacare so your continually bringing up Romneycare is a red herring. I mean come on if that is the only major issue that you have on him he is the best candidate ever to run for office. I disagree with my own wife and my mother on more than one issue. Why don’t you grow a set and just admit that you are a bigot and will not vote for him because he is a Mormon. I suspect that is what your real problem is with him.
Romneycare is 72 pages compared to 3700 for Obamacare. Romneycare was heavily supported by Mass residents who Mitt was elected to represent. Obamacare was not only heavily not supported it was forced down our throats through very dirty Political tricks behind closed door meetings and shutting out from debate the minority party. Romneycare was then praised by conservatives like Jim DeMint and the Heritage Foundation. Romneycare did not violate the constitution and was done in one state and effecting only one state and mandates are well within the scope of the spirit of state rights but mandating on Federal level is totally unconstitutional. I could go on and on but I know that is not your real issue with Mitt Romney.
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:16pmI agree with you Beckstheman but the media has done such distortions and a hatchet job on Mitt and the healthcare that he passed in Mass, that many people are having a hard time getting past that. I believe Mitt is the most qualified person to run for President in my lifetime and will solve and clean the mess that Obama has created. Give people time and they will see as they are able to get past the purposeful media distortions and character assassinations on Mitt.
They will find a man of very high conservative values and of very tough character. Like I have heard others say you do not to be the CEO of Bain Capital unless you are tough as nails and the best of the best as a businessman.
Mitt Romney/ Marco Rubio 2012.
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:27pmit’s amazing the way media pushes Perry over everyone else after only one week! it‘s totally sickening and what’s worse are the amount of people following Perry with their tongues hanging out because they think he says catchy phrases! This love affair the GOP has with this baffoon is embarrassing! It’s Obozo all over again! People need to grow up, get serious and think for themselves! Romney is the best candidate easily in my lifetime, and that’s saying something!
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:55pm@ Beckstheman; Romney has no intent on overturning healthcare! he offers a waiver for all 50 states. That means federal help for NY and Mass and every other ill fated liberal state to skew the numbers!! His record on judges is horrible and we don’t need another Iowa situation!!
Don’t believe the hype!!
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:08pmAnd as far as Romney and the OboMnneycare!!
Romney is Obama and vice versa! Period not a single dispute!
This (real independent been one since I registered to vote) Born again follower of the Messiah will not just support any candidate other than Obama just cause… If Perry wins the nomination and Jeb Bush stops irritating me on the idiot box with the hug Obama crap I might just change my registration to republican!!
To be frank; If Romney wins I’m not going to sit around trying to convert my conservative Black democrat family to vote for this queen of england lover Mitt Romney! It’s not happening!! I’m not ruining my rep over this guy! It’d be better to fight against Obama locally than sit around trying to defend the old guard! (period)
Perry 2012 and thats a fact!!
And to the Perry haters if you want to do better; then raise your kid to be the next George Washington; besides Bob McDonnell of Va and Perry not one soldier in the lot being groomed for the job of commander in chief.
I love Ron Paul but he’s not gonna cut it for me over Perry; I didn’t like the gardasil thing when I found out about it in 2009 but you know what thats what happens when you have a candidate with experience, he apologized move on! Stop wasting time with other candidates and tell James Rick Perry to shut down the TSA in TX! And if Dems can‘t legalize drugs to tax em’ Paul’s not getting done either! (Period be realistic) Want to end the police state and wars, U Change Ur
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:10pmWhy is RINO Rick Perry distancing himself from his 9 month old book? Is he that spineless. Mitt Romney is very proud of his book and all of the proceeds goes to charity. All of RINO Rick’s book proceeds go into his own self serving pockets. This should surprise no body as professed evangelical RINO Rick gave less than 5% of his earnings to charity, that isn’t even a half tithe. RINO Rick is looking flakier by the day…ALL HAT AND NO CATTLE!!!
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 7:46pmRomney donates proceeds from his book to charity just like he never takes a salary for serving as governor, as head of the 2002 Olympic games, and he won’t accept pay as president. Mitt Romney was taught to give service as a child and it continued in his missionary service in France. Romney is the genuine article.
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on August 29, 2011 at 1:28ami care about a mans record on legislation and stewardship of executive authority! Perry is no more a RINO than no record bachmann or ron paul and his earmarks!
Mitt is the same is Obama… based on his record that’s just a fact!
Report Post »Seek4facts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:48pmI just got this article and I thought it is worth sharing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/05/rick-perry-college-transcript_n_919357.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:02pmHuffington Post, oh this will be good. I enjoy a good fictional read, daily.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:22pmNWalters………… here read some of this! There’s a lot just like it out there on a guy working extreeeemely hard to portray himself as a religious conservative guy. He‘s flipflopped so many times on things it’s hard to keep track. Perry, I don’t care his religion, I care that he “professes” Christianity while having some of the records of his actions (not his words).
http://www.thenation.com/blog/162913/rick-perry-governor-sale
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/274812/rick-perry-s-bad-medicine-michelle-malkin?page=1#
In addition, to someone so preaching of Christ, I am amazed at his less than .5% charitable donations over 9 years. That’s not even a “tithe”……yet evangelicals flock to him like he’s “the one”. That is extremely hypocritical to me.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:44pm“Perkins told Dobbs Tuesday that when it comes down to it, any of the four leading candidates would be an acceptable alternative to Barack Obama.”
Okay, yes. That is a given. My pillow would be a better choice than Obama. But it is not the time to settle for anyone who is just an acceptable alternative.
I’d agree more if he whittled it down to three – Bachmann, Perry and Santorum.
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:26pmI would exclude Perry, he is an unknown, Anybody who would support Al Gore, at any time, is suspect!
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:37pmHeaven help us! Please tell me it’s not that easy to come on to the national political stage as a literal unknown like Obozo did, and snow the rank and file GOP so badly that with knowing and researching next to nothing, people have decided Perry is the best candidate for president!!! Where are all the people calling Romney a rhino and ignoring the outrageous facts like Perry being a democrat and working to put Gore in the White house??? There are huge unbelievable outrageous wrongs that Perry has committed, and everyone is ready to elect him the winner because he has blow dried hair like a girl??? He’s phony and as unintelligent as a doorstop! I can tell by his Flirty shallow personality that there are women with stories to tell? Just wait for that shoe to fall! Please tell me that after the fake bologne of Obozo, Kerry, and John Edwards, that people are really this stupid! Elect Perry and it’s just another manifestation of the uninspired, past feeling state of the conservatives who think they are somehow favored by God! Perry is clearly self centered, arrogant, and out to usurp glory for himself at the peril of a nation. That’s evil!
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:00pmPerry is a professional politician! What did he ever do outside of Texas? What did he accomplish before governor? Nothing!!! He’s done nothing on his own! He has no record outside of giving speeches! Who else do we know like that? Hmmm? He’s totally empty! Why don’t we call him a community organizer? Farm organizer? He has been the recipient of lots of stimulus money and military in his state like NASA! Most of those jobs created in his state were government jobs! Perry just takes all the credit and Texas wants him gone! This tea party and evangelical crap just makes fools of everyone! Stop giving him blind support and elevating him to a position not earned! He needs to leave the governorship, accomplish something OUTSIDE of politics, and be tested and vetted inside out before giving him your vote! Make him wait for it and earn it! Perry thinks he‘s entitled to the presidency and that should be your first clue that he’s not ready, nor is he in the frame of mind to be the servant of all! I’m sick and tired of the glad handing fakes who work at nothing, wait for nothing, and think every door should be open to them to walk right in! Tell him “try harder stupid!” Break the backbone of his conceit and stuck up attitude that blows snotty kisses to other deserving candidates in the camera!
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:58pmHey bolsenoo, quit drinking the RINO cool-aid!!! What other canidates are not “worthy” of conservative
Report Post »support in your unhinged mind? If you are trying to tell me that Romney is more conservative than Perry, then you are truly sad! The fact of the matter is that Perry was more conservative than Bush was
as head of Texas. It’s true that he WAS a democrat and did support Gore BUT here are the facts: Perry was a CONSERVATIVE democrat and supported Gore when Gore run as a CONSEVATIVE
democrat. When he saw the direction the democratic party took, he went republican. And if Romney is so conservative, why did he feel the need to flip flop on abortion? With all this this being said, Romney is a old style east coast establishment progressive republican. And I wonder, with this site being connected to Glenn Beck, why are are a lot of the posters so pro romney? I can only come up with 2 reasons; A. there are RINO’s posing as indpendants or B. there are trolls here from media matters posing as conservatives to ginn up romney support.
bolsen00
Posted on August 27, 2011 at 3:19pmEdmundburke–You don‘t have the first clue about what you’re saying! Let’s just start with the fact that there are a lot of people who like Glenn Beck without agreeing with everything he says! Even beck said last week that he’s always wrong on politics and the people running. He gets it! I’ve already seen it, and I excuse him for that, some people read personalities and character better than others, obviously. I’ve worked with Romney personally for years and you will never find a more honest and hard working man, smart and full of integrity in every way than Romney. I helped him run the Olympic games that he had to come in and salvage after the dishonor had taken place. I know of what I speak! Whatever mitt says, that’s how it is! He doesn’t care whether you believe him or not, you can vote for someone else! I think we all heard him telling the people at the Iowa fair that very thing! He’s not going to change what he knows is right just for you, and you can take it or leave it! Perry will change for you though. I’ve seen his wife, and that is not a happy woman. I can read faces and personalities, and there’s stuff going on behind the scenes in their marriage, just wait for it. There’s too much flirting going on in his personality for it to not have caused a lot of damage in that marriage. Same with the Clinton’s. They call Mitt stiff because he doesn’t flirt! He’s clean and has integrity! You’re not paying attention!
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:33pmI will never vote Evangelical.
My reasons why:
1.They have their own version of Shariah Law. (They do not respect God’s sovereignty)
2.Southerners have an intense history of abusing their women, ra8ing their slaves, and killing their neighbor.
3. They hate Mormons, a people who never deserved even 90% the afflictions inflicted upon them.
I have more, but I‘m afraid I’ve spent too much time on this article. Bad for your health to dwell on other’s bitterness.
Hurrah for Israel/America, Glory to God and the Lamb.
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:38pmOK, so how should we vote, Mr. Atheist? Shariah Law? When in the past 5 years has a real Honest to God, knows Jesus and does His Good Works, CHRISTIAN sliced off someone’s head on webcam? When have those Catholics been doing honor killings this year? You’re full of it, dude.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:16pmYou don’t have to be evangelical to be an acceptable POTUS.
Citizens should apply Article 6 to themselves: Am I applying a religious test to a candidate for political office?
If so, then you are undermining the Constitution and the Founding Fathers principles.
Put religion OUT of your evaluation and judge them on their character, values and experience.
America, we can be better than religious bigots.
Report Post »johnnycarson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:16pmThis guy and his Family Research Council hold some very incendiary views on homosexuality.
Now, you may not be comfortable with homosexuality, or the advancement of same-sex marriage, but take a look at these direct quotes from the Family Research Council and tell me if you think this is ok:
“The homosexual rights movement has tried to distance itself from pedophilia, but only for public relations purposes.” – “Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys,” FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf
“…one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order.” – “Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys,” FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf
“You don’t have to eat the stale crumbs off the dirty floor, which is basically what lesbianism is.”- AFTAH Web site interview with FRC’s Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm
“homosexuals are a security risk” – http://www.frc.org/insight/is95d1hm.html
Tony Perkins is a hateful person, and in a more reasonable reality, his endorsement would be a campaign kiss-of-death.
Report Post »staxmarshall
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:55pmOther than the one about the security risk, those quotes appear to be pretty spot on. Who would have thought that simply recognizing what the vast majority of the entire human race has acknowledged as obvious since the dawn of recorded human history in all four corners of the planet would be considered out of line: that homosexuality is a perverse human behavior that is destructive to the people practicing it and to the hosting societies and cultures that host tolerate or celebrate it. Homosexuality reproduces by molesting children. Homosexuality is not a life-style but a death-style.
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:13pmWhat I don’t think is “ok” is that they are trying to normalize sex with children. Did you not read about the symposium in Baltimore sponsored by B4UACT on August 17, 2011 with keynote speaker saying, and I quote, “Dr. Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins University gave the keynote address, saying: “I want to completely support the goal of B4U-ACT” and Jacob Breslow, a gay activist, stating “children can be “the object of our attraction,” and referred to a child as “it,” compared the child to a shoe, and used graphic, slang language to approvingly describe the act of climaxing “on or with” the child. Other highlights of the conference…”We are not required to interfere with or inhibit our child’s sexuality.” • “Children are not inherently unable to consent” to sex with an adult”.
I could go on, but its too disgusting. Tony Perkins is NOT hateful, he’s WARNING the public at large about what is going on. He is accurate in his statements and I just quoted a couple of things which proves it. Google it yourself, Baltimore B4UACT conference highlights. I’m standing up for whats RIGHT and this group is sick sick sick and all those who attended this “conference” and are advocating these disgusting ideals need the Lord and better stay the heck away from any child!! Its people such as these that are distroying our country with their absolutely disgusting ideas. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »sensibleadult
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:37pmTo me, the incendiary view on homosexuality is the one that thinks you should be taken seriously just because you want to stick your hot dog up trhe poo-poo chute.
Report Post »johnnycarson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:48pmThree completely moronic and ignorant responses. You’re on the wrong side of history, friends, and your cause is waning.
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:20pm“Three completely moronic and ignorant responses. You’re on the wrong side of history, friends, and your cause is waning” Moronic: “1. A stupid person; a dolt” Ignorant: “1. Lacking education or knowledge.” Whats the matter, could you not respond intelligently to my reply so your only recourse was to try to get me to believe that I am stupid and moronic? It didn’t work. But what it DID show was that you HAVE no decent reply to the facts, which I presented which are truthful and correct. And just so you know the only SIDE I am is on the side of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was, is and always will be. Along those lines I’m also on the SIDE of our children, who deserve to be loved, cherished and protected from the evils that are pedophilia. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess” God bless
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:06pmthe homosexual movement is a fascist movement that seeks to take away rights from christians who dare disagree. we all know you don’t have the guts to go after the muslims…
and the muslims want to use your arguments for gay ‘marriage’ for polygamy. you are dupes for them.
Report Post »Brettfan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:15pmBachmann and Cain are the two best in the race. Thaddeus McCotter and Rick Santorum have no chance, but are worth looking at. Bachmann is the best one for Evangelicals. Ron Paul is a non starter that only ardent fans of his are trying to promote. Paul has a foreign policy that no Christian or Jew should support. We don’t need Sharia.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:43pmRon Paul received more donations from the military this quarter than ALL of the other “R’s” COMBINED. Even more than Ohmamma. Check the F.E.C. numbers for yourself. If his foreign policy is so whacky then the troops certainly don’t think so.
Report Post »If you think that “Sharia” is going to take the place of the US constitution, then you are a fool, or are being fooled. Of course you’re rooting for a fellow moneychanger Ex Federal Reserve Chairman Cain, and proven liar “I was at a family reunion” Bachmann, when her OWN MOTHER said “she wasn’t there.” so it doesn’t surprise me. Google it. She also went after a guy making less than 10,000 dollars as an IRS attorney. She’s a Ron Paul ripoff, as are many of them.
Ron Paul just raised over 1.8 million in 24 hours for his birthday. I don’t see any of the other ones doing that without help from lobbyists, bankers, big pharma, and lawyers.
Keep voting for the slickest speech, the shiniest boots, and nicest hair, and you will get what you deserve. Keep voting for these “Copycat Constitutionalists” and we are in big trouble.
Do yourself, and your country a favor and INFORM yourself instead of letting the media do your thinking for you. Our future is at stake here. It would be much appreciated.
4freedomssake
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:24pmBachmann is the right one for Conservatives also. Michelle Bachmann best conservative in the race so far. She can beat Obama in a debate because she knows the issues. foreign and domestic. In a debate with a hostile O’Reilly, she cleaned his clock and his administration spin ‘Talking Points’.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:00pmPerry/Palin without a doubt.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:15pmPerry will not pick Palin. McCain needed a lightning rod, Perry does not.
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:16pmPERRY IS A GOOD CHOICE BUT HE HAS MANY PROBLEMS HE NEEDS TO ANSWER FOR…
1) He thinks a border fence is ridiculous: http://url2it.com/haqf .
His plan is supported by Democrats: http://url2it.com/haqe
His own Dream Act plan of 2001 and the instate tuition.
2) His support for the HPV mandate and then when it wasn’t going to pass he had multiple sob story press conference to pressure the legislature.
There are many more issues and these are not issues that will take him out of the running but must be asked at the next debate for him to answer.
Report Post »Brettfan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:17pmRather have Bachmann/ Palin or Palin/Cain or Bachmann/Cain
Report Post »neverending
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:37pmNo way in picking palin – he wants to win and he does not need to start off with baggage and huge negatives.
Report Post »nealb4zodd
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:50pmdear sweet Maria. . .please no Palin . . make her go away. . pleeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee. – she’s such an idiot. — she and Bachmann. . . are only as smart as their prepared rhetoric. – even when Bachmann has no response . .she gets in pep rally- cheerleader mode yelling out with dramatic pauses. .BARACK OBAMA IS GOING TO BE A . . .ONE . . .TERM . . . .PRESIDENT!. -
Report Post »neverending
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:55pmHad a lot of respect for him at one time – no more!
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:16pmI respect the man, but putting Romney first? Yeah, I have my doubts. Perkins IS only human, after all.
Report Post »Grace1798
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:50pmI don‘t like Romney’s stand on Government controlled Healthcare as well as his stand on Global Warming. That’s more spending on taxpayer dollars and we are already spending 3 million per minute!!!! So I won’t vote for Romney unless he is the only choice left against Obama. I do like Rick Perry but I am still deciding on him at this point, waiting to find out more about him. Ron Paul has some good ideas but he has no plans of protecting us from any attacks from other nations. He said that many times. So at this point, I am reserving my decision until I find out more about Perry.
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:01pmABOUT MAN-MADE-GLOBAL-WARMING:
Romney never said he believed in ‘man-made global warming.’ As a politician he gave a soft answer but he was completely consistent with what he has been saying for years and wrote in his book. He believes the earth is warming… and that man contributes to it, how much he does not know.
Questions for viewers:
1) Is the temperatures around the earth rising at this time. As far as we know YES. – He agreed with this.
2) Has it gotten colder and hotter in the history before, is it cyclical? YES – He agrees, he said it has been hotter and colder.
3) Does man’s actions effect the environment? I am not asking how much, does it? YES – He agreed with this.
4) Is man the cause of Global Warming? NO – Romney did not say that it did he said it contributed and that he does not know how much.
When I say he has been consistent – he was asked this in 2007 during his last race and 2008. During one townhall he was actually asked by a man wearing a Santa Claus suit and said the same thing: Here is a clip of him talking about this same subject back in 2007: http://tiny.cc/2g3f4
What I am trying to say is that, to me, man made global warming is a false theory. In this answer session he did not admit to believing in Man-Made Global Warming – Did he?
Report Post »ccr
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:27pmRomney is AGAINST cap and trade.
Romney had support from Heritage Foundation, majority of MA citizens and worked w/in Article 10 of the Constitution with MA healthcare. 70+ pages to 3700+ pages. Come on, be fair in analysis. (At least he wasn’t using executive order to mandate the HPV vaccine for young girls!!!! That was stopped by the true conservatives in TX……the legislature who kept Perry in tow!)
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/274812/rick-perry-s-bad-medicine-michelle-malkin?page=1#
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on August 26, 2011 at 3:58pmWell I live in Texas and I can tell you somewhat about Governor Perry.
Report Post »Here are some highlights…
Was a Texas A & M yeller
was in the Air Force briefly
He was once a Democrat and he was the Texas chair or rep for Al Gore’s first Presidential run
has been in politics for years (decades) since about ‘84 (establlishment? ..you decide)
he talks a good talk but to date…has been soft on immigration
See Texas Dream Act
See Texas Trans Corridor or TTC and Cintra (a Spanish owned company that was going to financially benefit from the project)
was against the Arizona Enforcement of Illegal Immigration Law
he issued an executive order mandating that Texas girls receive HPV vaccine that protects against some strains of a virus that promotes cervical cancer
He is also trying to claim credit for the job growth in Texas that really belongs to the private sector.
He was also invited and attended the Bilderberg meeting in 2007. See Bilderberg attendees.
Conservative enough for ya?
Jefferson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:40pm“Perkins also expressed interest in Rick Perry’s candidacy”
Report Post »If “Perkins” knew about Perry’s escapades both when he was a cheerleader at Texas A&M, and as a Governor, he would rethink that position. I live here and I know. Anyone with any political connections in Austin knows.
Ron Paul is the ONLY man or woman in this race with integrity. I pray that people wake up to this fact, before our currency and our country erupts into flames. These satanists want to bring about a “New Order of the Ages” or NWO, and Ron Paul is the ONLY man who will stand against it.
Remember that the devil will disguise himself as an angel of light. Do not be deceived by these phony candidates. Ron Paul is the closest thing to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
He NEVER attacks the person individually. He debates the foolishness of their ideas, but never makes it personal. He is nothing but a class act. The REAL DEAL, and he is persecuted by the moneychangers, and deceivers in the mainstream media. That is why people like Perry and Bachmann, and Gingrich all try to steal his ideas, and use them to try and gain favor with the people. Now Perry and Gingrich are talking about the Federal Reserve, which they would DO NOTHING about if they were elected. Neither would Bachmann, who was just caught lying about “being at a family reunion” in Iowa, and HER OWN MOTHER said that “she wasn’t there”.
Many will be deceived. Don’t get fooled again America. I believe God is giving us one last chan
fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:51pmSORRY I DON’T SEE HIS HONESTY…
1. He says he wants to go back tot he gold standard, then said we should sell all the gold in Fort Knox, sorry there is no gold standard without that plus all the gold America owns.
2. He supposedly fights for being fiscally conservative and yet fights for earmarks, sending money to his district through bribery found in other bills instead of through appropriation bill like it should be.
THERE ARE MANY MORE EXAMPLES…
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 4:17pmActually, I think you are mistaken. He wants to “go back to” THE CONSTITUTION which says CONGRESS is the ONLY one who has the authority to coin money, NOT the Federal Reserve which is no more “federal” than Federal Express. Just because it has “Federal” in the name, does NOT make it part of, or accountable to our system of checks and balances. It is a privately owned central bank that he also wants to audit
He NEVER said that he “wants to sell all the gold in Ft. Knox”. That is a lie. He said he wants to AUDIT to SEE HOW MUCH GOLD is in Ft. Knox. FAR different than selling it. It’s called “transparency”.Something the last President promised, but then did the exact opposite.
Secondly on “earmarks” THAT is what Congressmen do. If the Federal Govt, takes by force, money out of your state, and your district, then what is wrong with trying to get some of that money back?
Let me put it in simple terms. Say Congress and their buddies, are playing games in mom’s basement. The other guys get hungry, and say hey, we’re going to order pizza. Ronnie, says “no thanks, I had a sandwich before I came over.” The other guys order the pizza, and force “Ronnie” to pay his share, even though he didn’t want pizza in the first place. Ronnie then says “well since you forced me to pay my share, then I’d like a slice of pepperoni with black olives.”
Report Post »The point is that he’d rather see that money STAY in the states, than go to a bloated out of control central Govt. which i
AmericanDogMan
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:00pmDon’t believe the hype!!
Perry 2012 and thats a fact!!
And to the Perry haters if you want to do better; then raise your kid to be the next George Washington; besides Bob McDonnell of Va and Perry not one soldier in the lot being groomed for the job of commander in chief. Not one man willing to stand up and pray!
I love Ron Paul but he’s not gonna cut it for me over Perry; I didn’t like the gardasil thing when I found out about it in 2009 but you know what thats what happens when you have a candidate with a record and experience! Look at the results! Stop wasting time with other candidates and tell James Rick Perry to shut down the TSA in TX! Tell him how you feel and what you like and don’t like! BUT ROMNEY/PAUL/BachMANN/JEB/RYAN and the list goes and on and on there not going to cut it!
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:15pmSORRY JEFFERSON, IT’S NOT A LIE:
http://www.nysun.com/national/selling-gold-at-fort-knox-emerges-as-next-big/87350/
Even Ron paul’s Own Forum was talking about it: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?293650-Drudge-Ron-Paul-Sell-The-Gold-In-Fort-Knox…&s=a1998ee7025ad117823cae578837305d
And selling the gold would be the end of a possible Gold Standard System. He talks a lot but hasn’t actually done much in his ten years there. He even dropped the Audit the Fed bit when Barney Frank was all for putting it into the Dodd/Frank bill which was going to pass. At least that would have been some (the only) silver lining in the bill.
Earmarks are not fiscally conservative. They are used as bribes and all of those appropriations should be placed in Appropriation Bills like they were meant for.
RON PAUL STANDS FOR GOOD THINGS BUT HE IS MORE TALK THAN ANYTHING.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 9:41pmIt may have been taken out of context. It certainly caused some confusion. If he DID say that (which I have not seen any video of him saying that, or writing that.) His words were paraphrased by the NY Sun, which is exactly a trustworthy news organisation. Here is another take on it.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/ron-paul-says-sell-gold-no-chance.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29
Take note of the interview with Stewart Varney. Do you think ANY of these candidates could discuss Austrian vs Keynesian economic theory? Of course not. You get them outside of their cue cards and teleprompters, and they are LOST.
Report Post »Give me another candidate that has a PROVEN record of voting in accordance with the Constitution, and I may entertain them.
I’ll give you one point. Paul has discussed ALLOWING gold and silver to be allowed to be used as legal tender as mandated by the Constitution, more than he has a gold backed dollar. But he has discussed a gold backed dollar. I’ll take gold ( currently @ 1,763/oz) over a worthless piece of paper any day.
I haven’t seen you offer a solution, unless you are proposing Romney, in which I might have to laugh, and move onto another conversation.
NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:24pmDr. Perkins spoke at my church a few months ago. He’s not too far off.
Let’s see, he talked momentarily about the Culture War. That’s thriving and conniving and a good embodiment of the progressives out there.
He talked about the US being One Nation Under God- Washington sworn in on a Bible, Jefferson (claimed by some to be an atheist) took the oath on a Bible….Washington prayed bf his Inauguration. Roosevelt (FDR) even talked of God during firesade chats and during WWII. Yeah, we were WERE a Christian nation.
Perkins didn’t say vote one party or the other. Read where they stand on the lives of the unborn, individual liberties, protecting people, etc. and vote accordingly. Nowhere did Perkins say hop on the elephant or donkey or guy with a Tea Party hat’s back.
Report Post »MrldPatriot
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:24pmEvangelical leaders and groups need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid of the GOP. The party with the viewpoints most in-line with social and economic conservative thinking is the Constitution Party. http://www.constitutionparty.com
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:36pmDepends on where the GOP-er falls. If it were a Bachmann, Cain, or yes even Ron Paul, yeah I’d be really enthused. If it’s Perry, not too bad, but not my 1st choice. Romney or longshot Huntsman- ugh, only thing I could say (like 2008) is this is not my enemy, rather the lesser of two evils.
Trust me, I’d love a viable Third Party. I think the Tea Party Movement could build a big chunk of that 3rd Way, but they can’t be cannibalized and then trivialized by the establishment RINOs. I like the Constitutionalists, but who will they support in a two way race? Like I need to ask THAT question.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:40pmYour second sentence seems correct, but your first sentence is wrong: the real “Kool Aid” (BTW, did you know that the suicide drink at Jonestown is believed to have been Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid?) would be to split the vote with a third party. A better political strategy for libertarians, constitutionalists, etc. is to form a CAUCUS, but not a PARTY– where the causus endorses a candidate of one of the major parties and the memebvers of the caucus work and vote to get that candidate elected. Third party candidates much more often than not injure thier own political interests (but benefit of their pride interests, of course).
Report Post »miles from nowhere
Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:19pmGood for Mr. Perkins!
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