Top Adviser Says Cain Will Most Likely Endorse Newt Gingrich
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Since announcing Saturday that he would bow out as a candidate but still remain active in the Republican primary race for president, there has been much speculation about who Herman Cain will endorse among his former rivals. POLITICO reports Sunday that a top adviser has said that his boss plans to endorse surging Newt Gingrich:
“’He wants to play ‘who to endorse’ for a while,’ said the adviser, who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to speak bluntly. ‘Then he’ll probably be endorsing somebody in a couple weeks — before the caucuses…. I‘d say he’s going to endorse Newt Gingrich,’ the adviser said.”
The latest Des Moines Register Iowa poll released Saturday showed Gingrich in the lead, claiming 25 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers for the key January 3 Hawkeye state caucus. The same poll conducted one month ago had Cain at 23 percent support and Gingrich at only 7.
As Speaker of the House in 1996, Gingrich appointed Cain to the National Commission on Economic Growth and Tax Reform Commission. The Cain aide told POLITICO that the Georgia businessman would like to play a role in the campaign and in a Republican Administration if the party defeats Barack Obama in 2012.
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Comments (176)
perry1980
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:01pmwell the dam sure arent’ going to Romney
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:09pmMe neither; it’s Bachman again now. If Gingrich gets the nod, I’ll vote third party (will pinch my nose with both hands and pull the lever with my elbow if Romney gets the nod). Gingrich sealed our current fate when he authored and passed both NAFTA and GATT and I’ll never forgive him for that. I won’t attack him on any personal traits, but others will. I will, however, atttack him on policy related issues and things like Freddie Mac for instance. There just is no way I can back Newt short of God himself, though an epiphany, tells me too. lol. It won’t happen. :)
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:36pmWhat are you going to do when Romney does get the nomination? Talk your candidate up, but please, don’t trash another candidate. You sound like a Democrat doing that.
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:37pmYou should back Ron Paul. You know its the right thing to do.
Report Post »thradbore
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:39pmWhat the hell is wrong with NAFTA and GATT? Are you Free Market supporters or not? Or just “sometimes” depending on whether it helps ME or not?
Newt ain’t perfect, but he’s a helluva a lot better than Romney. Ron Paul is much better than either of them, but he’s too honest and too consistent to win an election.
Report Post »TeaPartyWarrior1
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:54pmNAFTA and GATT are dangerous to national sovereignty. It is phony free trade.
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:17amlylejk – you go ahead a vote for the 3rd party – that is the same a voting for Obama – I want you to hold your nose the Obama’s 2nd term.
It‘s bad enough that we have to listen to all the Ron Paul supports talking about Paul running as an independent if he doesn’t get the the Republican nomination – What people will do to in the hopes of getting pot legalized.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 2:45amNewt & Chris Christie…. are being Reported as ANTI-GUN/ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT!
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 4:50amHe should use his precious time getting all republicans riled up and out to VOTE. He dilutes his influence by endorsing someone else. He doesn’t need to be attached to another candidate in order to have influence and make a difference.
Report Post »orthodoxc
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:28amIf Herman Cain endorses gingrich then I‘ll know that I’ve been wrong about him. That would mean that he isn’t a conservative. That makes him an elitist republican. I will have to take a barf bag to the polls with me if I end up having to vote for gingrich or romney. Yech!
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:12amIf he endorse newt, it means my lovely wife was right about Herman, he is nothing more then stupid opportunistic CEO.
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:23am@thradbore
Report Post »“Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:39pm
What the hell is wrong with NAFTA and GATT? Are you Free Market supporters or not? Or just “sometimes” depending on whether it helps ME or not?”
How do you have free trade when it’s not fair? All NAFTA and GATT has done was allow corporations to leave without consequences (and there goes the well paying jobs). All the jobs (other then the medical field) remaining or available are jobs that use to be relegated to highschool kids. Gingrich, if he didn’t author these trade agreements directly, was more then still a disciple of both of them (my memory’s not perfect; just remembered he had a significant role to play with the passage of both, so I might have gone to far to say he authored them, but I don’t care; he pushed and voted them and that is more then bad enough). Gingrich disgraced his chair as Speaker to boot. The guy might have an uncanny ability to spiel facts and twist them to his favor, but that doesn‘t mean he’s fit to be potus period. I mentioned my solution on more then one occasion that I believe will eventually get our economy back and I’ll follow that once again as another response (running out of space here; lol). Again, Gingrich is yet another meglomaniac control freak and I’ve had it with folks who think they are know-it-alls trying to control all of our way of lives. I liked Cain the best, but now the closest one that I agree with is Michelle Bachman. :)
lylejk
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:26amAs promised, the Solution (at least mine):
Report Post »First of all, we have to understand that we are going broke. My solution: we got to recall all our military from all foreign lands (and I mean all) and cut it by a third to a half and the remaining troops main mission should be guarding the borders as they are Constitutionally demanded too. Now that would save a heck of a lot of money. Let the rest of the world take care of their own business; we can no longer be the police force of the world. Domestically, I would eliminate the Income tax and IRS and go to a National Sales Tax model. Less entities to collect from so that will further reduce the need for government workers saving more money. Also, before we even had income tax, we got most of our money from tariffs and other fees. Repeal NAFTA/GATT and bring the tariffs back. Short term, things will cost more. Long term, the jobs will return (they have too if companies want to sell their goods to us at a reasonable cost to them). NAFTA/GATT just gave them incentives to leave without consequences. That’s my take; want to hear yours.
DrFrost
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:03pmMy take:
1) Free market and free trade are not the same thing. Other governments cheat (currency manipulation, subsidies, etc.). Free trade means they get to cheat with no consequences. This is NOT a free market as it’s obviously being manipulated by governments.
Report Post »2) We have to do what is best for us. Not what is best for the rest of the world. I‘m a capitalist but I’ve never believed in a purely capitalist system. Without regulations you would have monopolies running everything. For example, the way corporations are run in Japan is illegal here because it gives them an unfair advantage. Allowing them to trade unfettered here puts our corporations at a disadvantage. Does that mean we start a trade war with Japan or China? Not necessarily. We have to do what’s best for our people in the long run. If that means looking the other way… we look the other way. If that means starting a trade war, we start a trade war.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 5:44pmJust read this. Nancy Pelosi said she would wait til the right time to get the dirt out on Gingrich. She said that she spent long hours and many days behind closed doors during the ethics investigation on Newt. He sure acts like that would be a nailin his coffin by saying this: “Gingrich reacted to Pelosi’s comments by thanking her for an “early Christmas gift.”
He also said Pelosi would be violating House rules and abusing the ethics process if she disclosed anything from the ethics investigation.
“That is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House,” Gingrich said in New York following a meeting with Donald Trump. “She’s now prepared to totally abuse the ethics process.”
Releasing the material would show the “tainted ethics process the House was engaged in,” Gingrich said.
The ethics investigation of Gingrich took place when Republicans controlled the House. Gringrich resigned from the House in 1998.”
What is in this that would really worry him? I think the investigation should be, if it is not, open for public display since he is running for the highest office in the land.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:53pmOne adulterer endorses another.
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:55pmI’d think the logical one would be Bachmann. If it is Newt, then Ol’ Hermie is a politician and I was fooled.
Report Post »I would and could trust her in the White House but for some reason my teeth grind when I say it? Newt has not responded to Gun Rights questions and has a past that corrupts our 2′nd so I can do that math all on my own. Romney said the same thing back in the early ninties so how seasoned of a politician is he!
goodnessme
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:54pmI surely do hope not!
Report Post »broman
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:59pmCain Brings Back the Good Ol’ Days for Democrats,
You won’t hear any report of this, but Democrats partied like rock stars on Saturday night, December 3, 2011. Behind closed doors all over the country, Democrats celebrated December 3, 2011 like it was the election of Barack Hussein Obama all over again. It was not the ascension of a half-black man that was the cause of Democrat’s exuberance, but instead was the demise of a full black man.
For Democrats all is good in the world, as the Republican Party is ALL white again.
Just in the nick of time, too. There are Democrat strategists high-fiving each other, saying “Whew, that was CLOSE!”
They’re right. Cain almost got away. The black Conservative who escaped beyond the plantation’s alligator-infested boundary to spread his message of American exceptionalism across the countryside had to be stopped. Had Cain not been stopped, he might have infected other blacks with that crazy talk. Imagine a world where black zombies were muttering 9-9-9 all the time.
Luckily Democrats were able to do what they always do when a black man not of their choosing aims too high. Democrats turned on the water cannons and unleashed the dogs. Female dogs. I believe the technical term is @#$%!es.
No need to rehash how Democrats used white women and ultimately a white woman named White to bring down the accomplished black man with the biblical name. What’s important to know is that they accomplished it. Democrats are jus
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:04pmAgreed. Gingrich is what’s wrong with our country. Do I have to mention both NAFTA and GATT again. If the GOP electorate truly backs Gingrich, then they are not doing their research. If Cain backs Gingrich, then this is when I will completely depart from the train. :)
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:26amIF it happens, I think I will too Lylejk
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:35am“Agreed. Gingrich is what’s wrong with our country. Do I have to mention both NAFTA and GATT again. If the GOP electorate truly backs Gingrich, then they are not doing their research. If Cain backs Gingrich, then this is when I will completely depart from the train. :)”
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That’s crazy talk, you know that Obama owns this economy and has gone behind the Constitution several times. Gingrich may be a politician, but I think he a damn sight better than Obama. I am disappointed in Obama’s “poltics of personal destruction,” but we have got to keep our eye on the ball. The LAST time the budget was balanced was on Gingrich’s watch and I think he can do it again.
He can talk circles around Obama, knows his history, and can out-debate him with both brain lobes tied behind his back. Gingrich was my second choice, I guess now he is my first. No way am I going to let a global-warming, healthcare nut, RINO get in the WH.
bhohater
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:36amBy endorsing Newt, Cain is smarter than I thought he was. Beating Obummer is top priority, and Newt is the most conservative candidate with the best chance of winning.
Report Post »Sagat
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:02pm“Gingrich was my second choice, I guess now he is my first. No way am I going to let a global-warming, healthcare nut, RINO get in the WH.”
No wonder our country is in trouble. Gingrich IS a global warming, healthcare nut RINO. And you want to support him anyway? Gingrich promoted a national madate for health insurance and teamed up with Nancy Pelosi to champion global warming legislation. Gingrich is John McCain all over again. Just like John McCain he was at the bottom of the polls and then all of the sudden surged because Republicans somehow thought McCain was electable. The problem is if Gingrich gets the nomination, Republicans will have buyer‘s remorse once they see that he’s just like McCain, a globalist RINO that supports amnesty, national healthcare and cap and trade. We aren’t going to change this country by electing a President who is only slightly better than Obama. We need better. Gingrich is not even good enough.
Report Post »RantNationDotCom
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:15pmHere is a comprehensive list of Newt Gingrich’s positions, with sources:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1461049
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:54pmNope, endorsements mean nothing to me–it only has effect within the political elite. Mr. Cain has become that; very sad to see. Yep, it’s politics as usual. Hard to get excited about any of them–including Ron Paul. You’d think people worship that dude. It wows me.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:09pmIf you think Dr. Paul is “politics as usual”, you need to get out more. For 30 years, Paul has been a consistent defender of Constitutional liberty. But, you probably don’t know that. After all, the establishment GOP, DNC, and media have worked to brainwash as many people as possible into thinking he’s just “crazy uncle Ron”, spouting off about antiquated concepts like sound money and human rights.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 6:54amLibertarianRight
RP will not do anything if Israel goes **** up…his foreign policy is somewhat shaky.
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:45pmCain to endorse Newt?….who hates and plans to ignore our Constitution in favor of, as he writes, “a new civilization.”
Endorse Newt Gingrinch?….who writes that our system of government “should die and be replaced.”
Gingrich?….who just last May, 2011 endorsed ObamaCare and the mandated purchase of care.
Newt Gingrich?…who sat on the sofa with Pelosi and STILL supports Cap ‘N Trade.
I can’t believe Herman Cain would endorse Gingrich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Cain’s advisers want him to endorse Gingrich,
thinking of possible future jobs, and putting themselves before their Country.
But Cain endorse Newt?……NO WAY!
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:30amIf he does it will show he is not the “outsider” we thought. It does seem that way also, since he appeared with Gingrich and they took the pose as a team at to forum in Texas. I was not aware he had received an appointment from Gingrich in a previous adminstration. Seems that should have been made public.
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:44pmNewt and Cain — Turkey Buzzards of a feather flock together.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:35pmBirds of a feather, FLOCK TOGETHER!
Report Post »lamarwi
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:32pmSeriously? If he really does endorse Newt, he is as bad as those women say he is.
Report Post »dsind
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:52pmHe will sound like a HO if he endorses Newt.
Report Post »A_VT_PREPPER
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 8:05amApparently so.
Report Post »CulpepperJosh1638
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:14pmSo you’ll take Globalist Newt or Big Government Romney over Ron Paul, champion of personal liberty. No wonder being an Independent is so popular this time around, you old RINOs are dying off faster than the Dinosaurs. We’re either going to split off into tyranny, thus creating a hostile environment in the United States; or there’ll be a rebirth of the essential liberties we were given when we took the 5,000 year leap. A vote for anyone but Ron Paul is a vote for perpetual war and the continuous growth of the police state; undermining your basic human rights stated in the Bill of Rights and Constitution. We need the 21st Century to offer a new, ground-breaking doctrine for personal freedoms again, because the Magna Carta and Constitution have been whored out by the cronies in charge. Luckily there is a new generation, such as me who understands this and WILL prevail after you older folk let America fall to economic collapse and war. “Good Day Sir”-Gene Wilder as Will Wonka.
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:03pmwhere is Ron Paul ???
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:33pmRon Paul doesn’t sell positions in the administration.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:36pmHe’s propabaly on the couch watching QVC
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:47pmRon Paul is putrefying somewhere. Soaking in a vat of MJ. Or something brought in from Iran.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 7:38amNeocon much Scarlet?
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:43pmCain is absolutely toxic – Gingrich and all other candidates would be wise to avoid any connection to him.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:55pmI actually think Cain is just fine. It is his “top advisers” that screwed this whole deal up.
Let’s say that Herman did everything he has been accused of, what does that take away from his platform? If he came out and said “I messed around on my wife, but this is how I stand on issue A,B,C,D…” he would have been light years ahead of the other wannabees.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:59pmGood. He and Ging are serial adulterers, and insiders.
Report Post »You don’t get to be Chairman of a Federal Reserve Bank, and speaker of the House without being an insider.
His endorsement of Newt should just show his true colors.
ConservativeCharlie
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:05pmLol, yeah they both like to cheat. I still like Cain, Newt would be much better then Obama… But I really have to question cains judgement to endorse the one lifetime politician, exspecially when he ran on being an Anti Politician. I am no Cain Fan, he is McCain.
Bachmann Paul or Santorum, if this country is to have a chance.
Report Post »Rachel
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:41pmIf Obama prayed, he would be praying Newt gets the nomination. Newt has all the negatives Romney has multiplied by 10. Newt was for the individual mandate, but, unlike Romney who always said this was a state NOT federal mandate, Newt was for NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE before he was against it. Newt was paid almost 2 MILLION DOLLARS by FANNIE and FREDDIE as a consultant before the housing meltdown. Newt sat down with Nancy Pelosi to try to solve global warming with…..you guessed it, CAP AND TRADE BIG GOVERNMENT POLICIES. Oh, and Newt has CHEATED on his previous two wives. His bombastic, pompous personality is anathema to independents. Is he intelligent? Off the charts. Does he have great ideas? Absolutely. Can he win the general election after Obama spends a billion dollars painting him as a pompous, cheating
Report Post »Washington insider who has been part of the problem rather than the solution? I think not. I personally like Michele Bachmann, but she has not gained traction and has no chance in the general election. I want someone who can beat Obama, even if that is Newt. Unfortunately, I think Romney is the only one who can beat Obama, and please, Paulistinians, Ron has NO CHANCE, so get over it.
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:51pmGuess you missed the news today:
New Poll: Ron Paul only candidate that currently beats Obama!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo…lls/elections/
In matchups against the top GOP candidates, only Paul ties Obama, with each candidate at 42 percent.
Obama 42%, Paul 42%
Report Post »Obama leads Gingrich (47 percent to 37 percent),
Obama leads Bachmann (54 percent to 31 percent),
Obama leads Romney (46 percent to 39 percent)
Obama leads Perry (48 percent to 37 percent)
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KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:01pmRon Paul has consistently been at the top of polls, he also has been shown even with Obama in a head to head match up and that was before Obama’s ratings tanked even more. To say Dr. Paul can’t win is ignorant. You mean to tell me with unemployment through the roof, gas prices doubled, White House solyndra scandals, fast and furious, unconstitutional wars around the world, $5 Trillion added to our national debt in 3 years time etc. that Ron Paul can’t be Obama with this record? You are out of your mind. The Democrats are scared to death of Ron Paul because they know he is the one who can beat Obama and that is why their liberal news outlets don’t give him any air time. American knows Dr. Paul can win. The primaries are coming up so spread the word to get out to vote to get Dr. Paul on the ticket then they will be forced to recognize him in the media and his message of freedom and liberty will spread like wildfire!
Report Post »Rachel
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:10pmThere is NO CREDIBLE POLL that shows Ron “Dr. Dimento” Paul beating Obama in the general election. Every time a Paulistinian puts a link up citing some poll it is either an invalid hyperlink or from the Southeast North Dakota Weekly Reader poll out of the comic section. Look, I would take Dr. Dimento and and his crazy cult followers to this Marxist, but it is time for a reality check. Ron has as much of a chance as my favorite, Michele, so it is time for conservatives to be PRAGMATISTS. All of the Republicans running will repeal Obamacare and turn the Marxist train around. The most important question we can ask ourselves is, “Who has the best chance to beat Obama?”
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:23pmand another poll: New Iowa Poll Has Ron Paul Best Able to Defeat Obama
Paul polls in top three again, fares best vs. Obama
ANKENY, Iowa – Among all competitors for the Republican nomination, 2012 Presidential candidate Ron Paul has the best chance of defeating President Obama in a head-to-head race, according to a new poll.
The NBC News/Marist Poll has Ron Paul polling in the top three among likely Republican caucus goers. Paul places third with 17 percent behind Mitt Romney in second place and Newt Gingrich in first place with 18 and 26 percent, respectively. Among the larger pool of potential Republican caucus goers, Paul again places third with 16 percent, behind Romney and Gingrich with 18 and 25 percent, respectively.
Paul polling in the top three in Iowa is a conventional outcome, yet the NBC News/Marist Poll reveals some interesting facts about the 12-term Texas Congressman’s competitiveness against Obama:
President Obama defeats all GOP competitors except for Ron Paul in a hypothetical matchup; and
42 percent of registered voters in Iowa support Ron Paul and 42 percent back Obama, with 16 percent undecided; and
Ron Paul leads Obama 42 to 35 percent among independent voters and attracts 15 percent of Iowa’s Democrats; and
Ron Paul also leads Obama by 14 percentage points among voters under 45 years of age.
A Des Moines Register poll released yesterday shows Paul polling a strong secon
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:25pmRachel, I just posted two — check them out for heaven’s sake instead of accusing everyone of falsehoods. I don’t lie. Never have, never will.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:37pmGood past RACHEL. This is my own list, but here is a list of people President Obama would like to run against.
1. Palin
2. Bachman
3. Santorum
4. Perry
5. Cain
6. Gingrich
7. Romney
I’d be astonished if Gingrich won the nomination. As someone said, “Gingrich is a dumb person’s idea of a smart person.” Gingrich may sound smart, but he’s taken so many contradictory posistions (depending on who is paying him) and has sort of a bad history as far as being fined by the legislature for being corrupt and was booted out of office.
Romney? Well Republicans just love him don’t they? He’s the Republican candidate, always has been. Get used to it and learn to love him, despite his religion.
Report Post »Rachel
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:54pmWow, another no-name Iowa poll asking Republicans to pick between Ron Paul (and the other candidates) and Obama. And Ron wins?!! And Ron does well even compared to other leading Republicans against Obama?!! Thanks. I didn’t see that one coming. Look, anyone who knows anything about presidential politics knows the independents determine who win the nomination– especially the independents in the swing states. Ron does not appeal to the majority of independents. Hey, Paulistinians, IT IS A COLD HARD FACT. He seems (to independents) quirky, shrill and, I am sorry to say this, a bit crazy. And the man is OLD. He will be 77 in a few months. Put him next to Obama and he looks (and sounds) like Yoda, but not a cool Yoda who would get votes. Again, If it is a choice between Obama and Paul, it is a no-brainer. It hurts inside, I know. Most people (especially independents) don’t pay much attention to politics. They know very little about the constitution. They just want to be able to take care of their families (It’s ALL about the ECONOMY), and maintain the status quo as much as possible. Obama is doing the marxist nudging and trying to make socialism seem not only normal, but the “moral” option. All I am saying, my friends, is Ron would do fine with Republicans in a general election, but he has no BAT-TURD chance in Hades of getting the independent vote. Obama has over one billion dollars in his propaganda machine. Please, let us be pragmatists.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:55pmJZS, Thanks for posting your list. It shows everyone that you are truly afraid of Paul running as you did not even list him. I am guessing you are for Obama because of other posts where you acually profess that you are a liberal and posts from you like this one: “Of course he (Obama) believes in America. For one he banned waterboarding, something we prosecuted and convicted Japanese soldiers for after WWII, and our own soldiers during Vietnam. He‘s shown the rest of the world that Americans don’t torture, something that was too common in Abu Graib and otherwise during the Bush administration.
Sure the rest of the world is happy President Obama is in office and restablished moral leadership after the distasterous management of George Bush. Americans should be proud.”
Thanks for giving Paul more ammo.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:04pm@JZS
I’ve made a mental note of this latest of your prognostications.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:07pmOh, and do I detect a smidgen of religious bigotry from you?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:20pmRachael, I have been an Independent for years but registered Republican this year so I could vote for Paul in the primary. I know many Independents voting for Paul that have done the same. I encourage everyone to do the same, and I have convinced many. I do not know where you get your information, but it is false information. Paul gets more diversified support than any other candidate. He pulls from GOP, Independents and Democrats as well. He has a better chance against Obama than Newt or Romney. Instead of posting these comments blindly like you are, go and research Paul. Research him well. The biggest thing I get is people who are misinformed about his foreign policy. I always send them to this entertaining video: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=351761#ooid=VtMWZ2MjoZHMco4i8lZolGtHwphRu_Xt
Take a look and please post your opinion.
Report Post »Rachel
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:31amI really feel foolish arguing the point that Ronnie has no flipping chance at the nomination.
Or, for those Dumb and Dumber enthusiasts:
[Jim Carrey or Ron Paul]: “What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me? One in a thousand?”
[Lauren Holly or America]: “Um, more like one in a million.”
[Jim Carrey]: “So you‘re saying there’s a chance!”
Alright you Paulistinians, I know Ron’s platform. I know his policies. I am comfortable with most of them. But, then again, the man could DIE any second ‘cuz he is 77 years OLD! OK, 76, but who’s counting? I have checked the polls. Ron is doing better in Iowa and could end up second. GREAT! SUPER! From there we head to New Hampshire where he will be fortunate to be a distant third. Oh, we are ROLLIN’ NOW! South Carolina? Hmmmm. Not so much. Likely 4th place. The all important Florida? Ronnie is polling at a whopping 4 percent. I know. I know. It is waaaay too early. Will he make an amazing turnaround and gather momentum from Iowa that will carry him through? Would anyone like to make a friendly wager on this one? Come on Paulistinians. Really? REALLY? Ron lost me and MOST OF AMERICA when he blamed 9/11 on AMERICA. Unforgivable. I am hearted when I think of all the Paulistinians who will (better) swallow their pride and vote for Newt or Mitt when it comes down to it (I really hope, between those two, it is Mitt). Ron running as a third party? Well, we all could kiss our Republic go
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:06amVechorik you better go and debate someone your own size – Rachel is kicking your but. One question for you Vechorik – you really want Ron Paul to win so he will legalize pot – be truthful, this is why your always posting up copy and past propaganda from the Paul website. Right!
Rachel is right – polling who would win the election Ron Paul or Obama – I would even check that question for Paul – and so would 75% of America – that doesn’t mean they will vote for Paul – it only means they dont want want Obama.
Report Post »ofarrell
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:28amWow, Rachel, really? Candy Crowley even admitted today in her interview with Paul that he leads with the independent vote. The fact is that that is where is the strongest. And then another rant thinking we would just hold our nose and pull the lever for anyone… and to think I voted for Bush and McCain but have decided for Paul this year. And as it turns out I’m going for the crazy guy… the only guy crazy about the constitution and following the law therein. Weird, I know.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 5:08am@Rachel
I have read the Constitution and examined which Candidate’s record best aligns itself with the Law of the Land and the intent of our founding fathers. I am down to Paul and Bachmann. Newt will not be able to get the needed independent and democrat votes. Most people see his record and will see him as a hypocrite and manipulative, profit-making politician while in office. He’ll have lots, and lots, of convincing to do.
Ronald Reagan once said, “Thomas Jefferson once said, ‘We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.’ And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying.”
Paul did not blame America.
Ron Paul on CBS’s Face the Nation 11/21/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvHPkRHBvk
Ron Paul: 1-in-20,000,000 Chance I’ll Run Third Party
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colt1860
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 5:36am@Rachel Newt was only at 6% 2 weeks ago. He’s at 24% now. Romney was at 25% two weeks ago and is now at 16%. Perry was at 28% when entering the race and is now at 2-4%. Bachmann had about 23% for about one week and is now at 2%. Cain was at 4-8% and then in 3 days jumped to 25%. We could go on, and on. We’ll see as it goes.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:46amRe: drugs, porn, prostitution
Report Post »The Republican National Committee pulled a dirty trick on Paul. According to the Times, Paul was running for Congress against fellow Republican Greg Laughlin, whom he eventually defeated in a runoff. During the campaign, an Austin marketing company called people and asked respondents who favored Paul if they would still support him knowing that he was in favor of legalizing drugs, pornography and prostitution. The real truth, the Times noted, was this: “Dr. Paul said he only favored repeal of Federal laws on drugs, pornography and prostitution, leaving states to prohibit them.”
Rachel
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 3:39pm@COLT and any other Paulistinian
I find these poll numbers you pull from your rear…or Iowa, to be humorous. Again, could Ronnie do well in Iowa? Sure. He won’t win– even in Iowa. Will he win ANY of the primary states? (Everyone in unison say it with me.) Nooooooo. Does his age matter? Maybe not to you, Colt, but in a general election where the superficial and geriatrics matter, YES. According to the life expectancy of the average U.S. male today, Ronnie is already living on borrowed time– but go ahead and vote for Ron in the primaries. Just promise me, don’t ruin our republic by voting for Ron as an independent when he loses the republican primary. Romney or Newt over Obama. And, yes, I think Ron has the potential to ruin our country by running as an independent and handing Obama the election. A politician going back on his word (and running as an independent?) Shocking–but Ron is no average politician. He’s only been a politician for longer than I have been alive.
Report Post »AMSMGR
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:39pmIf Herman Cai is going to let down his supporters by endorsing Newty, I am glad I have made the decision to support Ron Paul. I cannot believe that Herman would support Newty when Gingrich has the total opposite ideas of Herman. Guess it is just back to Politics!!!
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:09pmYou made the right decision.
Report Post »Most military support.
Most support from Independents and recovering Libs.
Most support of younger voters.
Only honest man in the race.
Consistent.
Principled.
Ron Paul is a CHAMPION.
The others are simply CHAMELEONS.
They’re trying to repackage his Constitutional platform into their used car salesman personas.
You will have a clear conscience, if and when TSHTF. And it WILL if Paul isn’t elected. It might still even IF he IS elected, but I would rather have the one who PREDICTED this mess, help get us out of it.
I’m just glad the military and police (for the most part) will be on our side.
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:27pmWell, Mr. Cain endorsed Romney once, so endorsing Gingrich is nothing new. I’m just sorta upset that Mr. Cain thinks he has to “sell his endorsement” in order to get a position in the new administration. I think he could have one no matter who gets elected.
Report Post »TeaPartyWarrior1
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:58pmI have come to the same conclusion my friend. Paul is SOOO much better than the rest on domestic issues it is not even funny.
And while parts of his foreign policy are problematic, he is the only candidate that will not dictate Israel what to do and try false protection-that is the Lord’s job. I think he underestimates Iran however he will stop an imminent attack and if Congress declares war he will win it without nation building.
There is only one choice-Ron Paul.
Newt=Romney=Obama
Report Post »National mandates
National education
Gun bans
Abortion funding
Radical enviromentalism
Amnesty
Lack of respect for Constitution in general, far too progressive
Vechorik
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:48amI LIKE Dr. Paul’s foreign policy, saves money, saves lives, gets the job done:
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Ron Paul’s War:
Dr. Paul supports using “letters of marque and reprisal.”
These are, in effect, licenses to private parties to carry out acts of war. We used them against the Barbary pirates. Almost immediately after the attack on the World Trade Center, Dr. Paul introduced in the 107th Congress H.R. 2076, called the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001, authorizing holders of the letters to go after bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders and seize them and their property. He also voted to give President Bush authority to use the military to go after Al Qaeda, but he has been pressing for letters of marque ever since.
Dr. Paul’s bill would have covered not only past attacks but any “planned future air piratical aggressions and depredations” against us. It would have given the president discretion to pay up to $40 billion in what were, in effect, bounties for the “capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001.”
Dr. Paul said that one thing he wanted as to avoid a trillion dollar expedition when there was a simpler, constitutional approach of bringing the war to our enemy.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:34pmIt must be hard as all can be to find a “Top Adviser” that can keep his friggen mouth shut. Why do we always get scoops from unnamed sources? How about we hear it from Herman himself?
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:54pmCompletely agree!
Report Post »Cain’s “top” adviser just wants to be BMOC, Big Man On Campus!
How antiquated and self-centered is he!
Yes, this news should be released by Cain, himself.
I hope his top adviser is wrong, for the sake of the Country.
Free2speakRN
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:19pmWhatever.
Report Post »Just so Obama is voted out. ‘And’ no democrat gets in.
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:35pmMr. Cain could have a place in the upcoming Republican administration without having to BUY it.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:36pmYou’re falling into the trap I fell in years ago.
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:09pmOnce we elect a RINO (Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, etc) we will get 4 years of nothing changing. The next election will have the slime ball left put up a candidate much worse than obozo. They will say “see. We tried it your way and it failed. Now it is time for socialism.” and America will be flushed down the drain faster than if o-blame-a stays in a 2nd term. I can only pray that America wakes up and brings on a true conservative candidate and not all these losers we keep nominating.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:12pmAmen!
Report Post »hi
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:16pmAmen!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:33pmHate to remind you, but Newt is more of a Rhino than Romney.
Links to back up facts “So you think you know Newt Gingrich?
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Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:37pmNo one mentioned Dr. Paul, until you did….so that opened the door.
Ron Paul’s War: Dr. Paul supports using “letters of marque and reprisal.”
These are, in effect, licenses to private parties to carry out acts of war. We used them against the Barbary pirates. Almost immediately after the attack on the World Trade Center, Dr. Paul introduced in the 107th Congress H.R. 2076, called the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001, authorizing holders of the letters to go after bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders and seize them and their property. He also voted to give President Bush authority to use the military to go after Al Qaeda, but he has been pressing for letters of marque ever since.
Dr. Paul’s bill would have covered not only past attacks but any “planned future air piratical aggressions and depredations” against us. It would have given the president discretion to pay up to $40 billion in what were, in effect, bounties for the “capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001.”
Dr. Paul said that one thing he wanted as to avoid a trillion dollar expedition when there was a simpler, constitutional approach of bringing the war to our enemy.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:40pmI don’t know why you think liberals would revolt if Dr. Paul were elected. They’re antiwar remember. Dr. Paul would wage war with “piracy bounties” rather than thousands of troops. Liberals will be happy that Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate that keeps all government assistance as it it — no cuts, as he balances the budget with other means. Dr. Paul doesn’t participate in class warfare either. The economy will surely improve and that should make every American happy, even liberals.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:42pm@hobb
Report Post »That sure was depressing, and im out of beer.
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:43pmAs far as Dr. Paul working with Congress, he already works across the lines with many Democrats. Many Republicans like to say Dr. Paul “isn’t really a Republican” Having Dr. Paul would be a stabilizing influence so that Congress maybe can actually get something done, rather playing the Democrat/Republican game that I’m sick to death of hearing — it gets nothing done, while the illegal agencies such as the EPA mandate regulations/laws without Congress’ participation. End the insanity!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:44pm@Hobbs
The (4) mentioned are CLEARLY of the RINO variety. They were either born into their weatlth and status, or they’re career politicians, or in Perry’s case, a former democrat.
It’s okay to demand more from those representing “our” side.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:52pmVECHORIK agree….he sure would make liberals happy
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:54pmNominate a TRUE conservative and you’ll see what a loser looks like. For reference, see Barry Goldwater in the 1964 election. To be fair, LBJ always had a commanding lead. BG’s “Daisy” ad was the end of his campaign. Newt, by the way, no matter who endorses him, has no chance to defeat Obama. Half the voters are women and they don’t take very kindly to men that leave their wives when sick or screw around with their aides, like slutty Callista Bilek.
Report Post »fredz
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:45pmWhat do I care,Im moving to Costa Rica.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:58pmWe have a beautiful house for sale in CR if you are serious about moving there.
We LOVED CR…..
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:44pm@kick
Report Post »I sure you like to talk about this house more.
the68
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:09am… what’s special about Costa Rica? Inquiring minds want to know.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 9:50amCosta Rica is beautiful and politically corrupt by organized crime.
Report Post »NotPoliticallyCorrect
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:44pmWho cares who Cain endorses, he’s a joke.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:39pmDoes anybody really support a candidate because of who endorses them? Not me. I never understood that.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:48pmWillie,
Report Post »Could you tell these Cain supports that us Paulist really arnt that bad? Ok we have got out of hand sometimes but were good folks.
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:48pmQPWILLIE, you and I agree more than we disagree. I’m sure with you on that statement you just made!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:10pmLots of lemmings in this country, my friend. Endorsements are huge.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:28pmWow!
In 2008, Cain endorsed Mitt Romney for president:
“Romney has the leadership qualities United States needs
By HERMAN CAIN
Published on: 02/03/08
The dynamics of political party connections, the political process itself and public perceptions have once again yielded the top two contenders of each major party in the 2008 presidential race. And once again, the public can only hope that the ultimate winner of the White House will be a candidate with the most leadership substance.
My vote is for Mitt Romney.”
http://www.gaformitt.com/2008/02/herman-cain-endorses-gov-romney.html
If Cain endorses Gingrich, then that will make it two liberals in two successive elections that he has endorsed!
Report Post »Pouncing Porcupine
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:36pmYeah, I think I said that twice already.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:12pmBone head, Rick Santorum is MUCH closer to a conservative.
Report Post »TeaPartyWarrior1
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:01pmMy problem with him is that
Report Post »1-He polls 1%
2-But MORE IMPORTANTLY, he has been consistently big government.
Also, while I am not for the separation of church and state, I believe Santorum actually wants a theocracy, which could be dangerous if a Democrat gets elected, or a muslim.
All Pro
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:10pmUrm….but Mr Cain’s supporters are endorsing Ron Paul.
Report Post »http://www.hermancainforums.com/index.php/topic,1824.0.html
fredz
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:44pm********,virtually none of us Cain supporters want anything to do with Paul.Quit making **** up.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:44pmNot this Cain supporter. Never. I was already leaning towards Santorum before this last scandal.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:09pmfredz
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:44pm
********,virtually none of us Cain supporters want anything to do with Paul.Quit making **** up.
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“Now that Herman Cain has dropped out of the race my new candidate is….. Congressman Ron Paul.
Ron Paul was the only candidate that actually had remorse for how the media treated Herman Cain and the alleged affairs, I will always thank him for showing resptect in that nauture, with that said. ”
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West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:11pmFREDZ, I hate to pop your bubble but I was just at the Cain Forum and a lot of people that were for Cain are now endorsing Paul and more continue every minute.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:08pmThats bad for both of them ….
Report Post »Dalady
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:07pmNo Newt is Good Newt
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:12pmLOVE it!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:06pmMr. Cain best not endorse the newt. newt is NOT an AMERICAN. he is a tool like romney and they are in bed with the bad guys bringing down AMERICA…. soros, clintons, ayers, jones, etc. ffp, etc.
Check the newt’s background folks. Just because he is a good debater does NOT make him a good AMERICAN or a good person, or a CHRIST follower. he is NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA at all, anywhere or any time. Just because he is intelligent and articulate does NOT make him ours.
AMERICA NEEDS JESUS. Period. Nothing else, no one else can save our nation. No body.
It is JESUS or nothing, folks.
Sorry for you atheistic snobs. You are missing the boat, the train, the wheelbarrow. It IS JESUS, nothing more, nothing less.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:42pmIs he running? Jesus that is. I love Jesus too, but don‘t you think that’s a little over the top? No wonder people accuse us Christians of being a little… off. That’s one of the major reasons why Michele Bachmann (who I like very much) doesn’t resonate well with many, and is down in the polls.
I respect your love of Christ, but Jesus might want you to give us an alternative if Newt isn’t your bag.
Report Post »thradbore
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:37pmThen write in “JESUS” and toss your vote away grandma.
Report Post »rock-n-roll-rebel
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:05pmAnd who said that adultery didn’t form strong bonds?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:56pmand bruising
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:21amThese two are made for each other! Both seek power to satisfy their own lusts. I‘m glad Cain didn’t endorse Romney – Romney is the only front-runner who is a shining example of family values.
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