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Toronto School District to Vote on Banning Bible Handouts for Non-Educational Purposes

Bluewater School District to Vote on Gideon Bible Ban for Non Educational Purposes

Image Credit: The Gideons International

A Toronto school district in southern Ontario is taking a final vote on Tuesday night regarding whether to ban free handouts of Gideons Bibles. Based on past votes, the Bluewater School District is expecting the dissemination of Bibles for non-instructional purposes to fifth-grade students to be officially halted.

According to the Associated Press, the debate has been an emotional one, with trustees receiving both threats and hate mail. These individuals are accusing the trustees who oversee the district as being both un-Christian and un-Canadian by refusing to allow the Bibles to be handed out.

The local Gideons International chapter in Canada has distanced itself from these charges, saying that it will accept the ban if it is implemented; some church elders have also separated themselves from these critiques. Tuesday’s meeting is expected to be packed, as at least one delegation is planning to speak out against the ban. The AP has more:

Based on a legal opinion and concerns about the cost of allowing distribution of all religious materials, the trustees have so far opted to ban such handouts as several other school boards across Canada have done.

The invective of those opposed to the ban unnerved some trustees of the Bluewater board, which has more than 18,000 students in 53 schools.

Chairwoman Jan Johnstone said Monday that a recent article by The Canadian Press on the torrent of hate mail directed at trustees, some of it racist, prompted a new wave of correspondence.

This time, however, Johnstone said correspondents from across Canada and the United States were by and large “overwhelmingly supportive” of the pending ban.

Bluewater School District to Vote on Gideon Bible Ban for Non Educational Purposes

Those who support the ban argue that the distribution of Bibles has no place in public schools. Some go as far as to claim that proving the holy book actually violates human rights legislation.

However, opponents are highly critical of the likely ban. Some parents have even threatened to remove their children from the public school system if, indeed, it is implemented.

In an effort to temper flames, Johnstone has reiterated that the ban was only on non-instructional materials. She said that multi-faith content in all public school curriculum will continue, so long as it is for educational purposes.

“Bibles and other religious texts will continue to be available in our libraries,” Johnstone said.

(H/T: The AP via Yahoo!)

Comments (66)

  • Baikonur
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:39pm

    The most conservatve Canadian I ever met was a Catholic woman with a 5th grade education that farmed all her life, and then worked as a cleaning lady, and then retired. She was fierce in her Frenchness and Catholicism, and did all the flowers for her Church. She was mostly illiterate. And she believed in ordination of women priests.

    Sometimes I read the posts here and despair, and then I remember that what is wrong with the Blazers is not lack of education, or IQ points, or even literacy, but that, like in the great 50‘s movie ’The Bad Seed,’ they are just not nice people.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:38pm

      That depends on what you consider to be nice.

      I don’t have to nor do I want to meet your standards.

      If you don’t like this country, then you can leave. Why should we become another Marxist craphole? You have plenty of those countries all over the world to go to.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:47pm

      You’re one of those left wingers that considers it worse to use “hate” speech than it is to commit murder or rape. So you’re in no position to talk about morals.

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  • Counter-Culture Revolutionist
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:10pm

    I took a world civilization course at a college in Chicago and the professor covered every religion EXCEPT Christianity. He said he didn’t have the time. So instead of arguing the point with him, I politely asked if I could distribute copies of the Gospel of John to all of my classmates as part of the educational process. He allowed that.

    It is unclear from the article whether the death threats came from people calling themselves Christians. Needless to say, I hope not. Instead, people should adopt the path of peace and love. It may be that by taking that stance, the school officials will be more open to allowing individuals to come into the classrooms and give their testimonies on how the Bible and Jesus Christ has changed their lives for the better. Every subject matter in the schools can be touched by appropriate testimony.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:04pm

    No one makes anyone take a Bible. It is offered. If someone declines…it is left to them. Canada is so liberal the very mention of the name makes one’s teeth gnash involuntarily. They are Britian-lite and we all know what a terribly leftist government the Brits have. I am half English in lineage but ashamed of it.

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    • SoNick
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:50pm

      Canada is now run by the mosty right wing government in its history. In fact, some of Prime Minister‘s Harper’s Conservative members of Parliament would be right at home in the Tea Party. But of course, if you think Obama,s a marxist, then Canada is probably North Korea or something.

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    • SoNick
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:54pm

      “most”, not “mosty”

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 7:46pm

      Sonick – That means there aren’t any real conservatives in Canada.

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  • NOT A CRAZY
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:39pm

    It is a very short step between banning and burning.

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  • ICEDRAGONNITE
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:38pm

    This move will spread throughout Canada. Shortly rocks will fall and most of Canada will be destroyed because of their Anti-God position.
    Just shows how foolish man can be.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:40pm

      Candanadians better get a clue, and vote these idiots out, REALLY quick.

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:52pm

      Canada is a beautiful and virtuous country filled with many wonderful people. You should be so lucky as to experience the peace of Canada.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:38pm

      Baikonur – Considering that you think the Soviet Union was a great country, I don’t think you have any moral standards whatsoever.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 8:08pm

      Baikonur – Canada is such a peaceful country that you can go to jail for “hate” speech (which means any speech that a left winger finds offensive). It‘s harder to own a gun and I’d be forced to pay for somebody else’s health care who is perfectly able to take care of themselves.

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  • Blue60
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:15pm

    “Oh, well… it’s Canada… where the King of England created his own Religion and his own Bible.”

    That’s got nothing to do with Canada. IT’s no different in the USA. You cannot go around handing out bibles at public schools in the USA. Oh, but you can teach the kids about homosexuality.

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  • kspatriot
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:13pm

    Seems they are using the same tactics up there.

    “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
    Its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.
    If we can undermine these three areas,
    America will collapse from within.” — Josef Stalin

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  • Blue60
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:09pm

    If they allow the local chapter of Gideon’s to hand out free bibles, then they have to allow free Korans, Latter Day Saints and so on. I think this is the REAL issue. If Gideon’s wants to hand out free bibles, they can do it off the property. No-one can stop them from doing that.

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  • Dale
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:55pm

    Okay, Bibles are available in the library – They may ban ‘giving’ Bibles to students. Look out Halloween.

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  • HKS
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:43pm

    Sure would not want anyone learning to be good people and do all the right things now would we. More important to politically correct ya know.

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  • deeberj
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:33pm

    If they are banned – If a child is studying the bible as literature or history, then can‘t the Gideons just provide the ’textbook’ for the students in those classes? A charitable contribution to the school district.

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  • RIGHTHOOK
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:24pm

    It’s is interesting that our moral footing is completely devoid in North America. The USA is sandwiched between two very different yet two very dysfunctional countries that are poor examples to follow and both are imposing their inept and unsuccessful behavior upon us.
    Until this world discontinues embracing what is bad, seal our borders, there really is no clear cut way out of the whack job world that have been thrust upon us. Better learn how to fend for yourself and defend you and your family by whatever means possible. There are no boundaries anymore folks and in a street fight there are no rules. We are in the midst of a full on street fight.

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  • jcldwl
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:21pm

    I will gladly accept all those free bibles. So I can store them and protect them from those who will be confiscating and burning them in the not to distant future.

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    • Gourdy
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:27pm

      Uh, oh. Do you know something we don’t?

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    • gperky
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:44pm

      It is evident that the direction we are going, your comment will come to fruition. There is an all out assault on the Bible and Christianity. After all the good that has come from this nation being God centered and founded, we have allowed a handful to try and destroy a great and mighty nation. We are headed down the path of being just like everyone else instead of being the shining star in this world. Just the latest of a 16 year old girl bringing down a banner that has been posted on the wall for over 40 years because she is offended by written words is amazing to me. God help those of us that still stand for right and wrong.

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  • cromag11b
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:16pm

    What part of “Keep it to yourselves” do Christians seem to not get?

    Like thousands upon thousands of other religions you all should just let yours fade away to the forgotten side of history.

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    • dblaess
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:26pm

      I agree. I believe and practice this belief. If someone asks I tell them my beliefs. I do not think the Christian faith will go away.

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    • Teabunny
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:38pm

      if you listen to what the religious teach…its not christianity. the progressives in the church have seen to that. …sorry…I’m not into leftovers.

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    • gperky
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Christianity will never “fade away”. People like you have been trying to fade us away for centuries without success. It’s amazing to me how simple minded people like you can be offended by only words. If it is something you don’t believe, then just ignore it. There are thousands of words and songs and garbage that offend me but I just ignore it. For some reason Chritianity and the good it stands for, gets under the skin of people that have simple minds.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:07pm

      No, we’re not going to keep it to ourselves just b/c people like you are thin skinned.

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    • Teabunny
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:56pm

      Hey neanderthal, go to blinds .com and get the room darkening blinds…crawl into your hole, and stay there. you made a choice, each makes a choice. live and die by your choice so be it.

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  • canadianproud
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:15pm

    Don’t think your better than Canada. Who will take you in , when your crap hits the fan?

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  • SilentReader
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:13pm

    Have they done a similar ban on Qu’rans? Or is it just Christians and Christianity, and now the Bible, that is under attack?

    Toronto is a beautiful city but it’s going to the dogs. Shame!

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  • VastRightWingConspirator
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:10pm

    I can’t believe you can still give away Bibles to school children in Canada. Try that in the U.S, and you might wind up in prison or at least sued.

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    • Teabunny
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:13pm

      you can’t even read scripture on a public walkway! I love canada!

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    • Shasta
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:30pm

      This country is turning it’s back on the very thing that made it great in the first place; Divine Providence.

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  • JimL
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:08pm

    Truth, history, beauty banned– outside the no-boundaries of the non-existent curriculum.

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  • jefftavolieri
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:03pm

    blaze reactionaries need to remember to:

    1) stop.
    2) substitute the appropriate muslim analogs (e.g. OMG they r giving my kids teh KORAN!!!)
    3) think.

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    • VastRightWingConspirator
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:12pm

      Jeff needs to stop

      1) We live in a country based on Christian ethics
      2) Christians didn’t fly planes into buildings on 9/11/01
      3) Evolution is a theory not a fact.

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    • dblaess
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:23pm

      I think it would be ok for the Koran to handed out . Don’t you think it is good to read opposite views? This helps to make you think why your views are good.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:39pm

      dblaess – I would not want my small child to be given a Koran to read. I want my child to read the bible, because it has what I believe in it. I do not think small children should read or experience everything including opposite views so they can learn what they believe is good. Instead parents should teach their children what they think is right and true.

      The constitution does not say separation of church and state, it says the gov‘t can’t establish or prevent a religion. Does letting an outside group come in and give out bibles constitute establishment of religion? That’s the real question.

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    • Copo
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:57pm

      Conspirator: By definition the General theory of evolution isn’t even a theory, its a hypothesis, a very weak hypothesis none the less.

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    • Copo
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:59pm

      Deebrj, the founders did talk about separation of Church and State, however even Thomas Jefferson, the founding father who was most against religion, said that the purpose of the Separation of Church and State was to keep the State out of the Church’s business, not vice versa as most people view it today.

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:02pm

    It’s another sovereign country. They can do as they wish. You don’t have to agree or buy maple syrup from them.

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  • tzion
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:01pm

    Handouts I’ll give them. As long as teachers and students can bring their own materials and the school library has them as resources I’m okay with this.

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  • Teabunny
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:00pm

    hey y’all! my sweet home chicago! we have more than eagles nesting 5 miles from my house! http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-04-16/news/chi-bald-eagles-spotted-in-forest-preserve-in-palos-township-20120416_1_adult-eagles-eagle-family-golden-eagle-protection-act

    we have blackhawks in the skies! http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/military-blackhawks-circle-downtown-skies-honing-urban-battle-skills-chicago-20120416

    (does this mean we are going “to the birds” ? lol)

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  • love the kids
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 11:58am

    This is another country people and do not have our Constution. Just as long as they keep paying cash for medical services they need to obtain in the US because their system won’t take care of them.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:16pm

      Obamacare should scare the Canadians as much as us. Many come down to Florida in winter .. and get their healthcare while here.

      As for Toronto schools .. sad what they too have become .. my cousin was a teacher and another was a principal in Toronto school .. yes they used to start the day with a prayer .. now you can’t even give out a bible ..

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    • canadianproud
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:23pm

      I have lived in Canada all my life, & have never been refused medical treatment. One of the best hospitals in the world is in London Ontario.

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  • Gourdy
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 11:58am

    Free Bibles to 5th graders? That’s proselytizing and plain wrong. I wouldn’t want any outside group giving my 5th grader religious material. Where would you draw the line?

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    • love the kids
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:00pm

      What country do you live in?

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    • love the kids
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:02pm

      But i’m sure you want everything else free to them, don’t you?

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    • love the kids
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:05pm

      Mabey they can handout material on how to get a job at their newest legal profession, the Brothel. That is legal so it must be O.K. Write me in 8 years and let me know where your daughter is working.

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    • Gourdy
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:10pm

      Love, would you be OK with free Korans, free Hare Krishna literature, etc going to your kids? God knows I wouldn’t. Public schools are not the place for that. People should teach their kids the Bible at home or in a church catechism class.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 11:57am

    Oh, well… it’s Canada… where the King of England created his own Religion and his own Bible.

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