‘Trampling on Our Religious Liberties’: Catholic Group Launches Campaign Against Obama
- Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:09pm by
Billy Hallowell
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The rift between President Barack Obama and Catholic interest groups is intensifying. The Catholic Advocate PAC (CA) is so disenchanted with the president’s policies, that the group has launched a campaign urging Obama to “meet with Catholic leaders to discuss compromise.” Here is a description of CA’s work:
At Catholic Advocate, with our affiliated organizations the Catholic Advocate Educational Fund and the Catholic Advocate Candidate Fund, we engage and encourage faithful Catholics to actively participate in the political process to support elected officials and policies that remain consistent with the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Clearly, the political group doesn‘t see the president as being very friendly to the Church’s teachings. The compromise that CA is looking to strike, as Ashley Lopez of The Florida Independent notes, surrounds religious conscious rules. These regulations are best framed on the CA web site:
It is well known the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) forces health care plans to provide coverage of abortion and use our tax dollars to pay for abortion. In addition, PPACA does not protect the conscience rights of health care insurers, providers, and personnel who decline to provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.
CA is accusing the president of not making good on a pledge to seek “common ground” with Catholics — something he promised to do in a speech he gave early on in his presidency at Notre Dame. Rather than addressing these policies, some Catholics claim that Obama has simply abandoned his word and ignored concerns.
On a web site devoted to this new campaign, the group explains that the president originally pledged to be sensitive to religious issues. However, CA contends that, “no other president in American history has so blatantly chipped away at our religious liberties.” The group also asks supports to sign a petition to prevent the president from “trampling on our religious liberties.”
Watch CA’s advertisement, below:
This campaign, though, is only a symptom of the overall deterioration of the relationship between Obama and Catholic groups. In another example of friction between the two parties, the Department of Health and Human Services decided to end funding to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops last month.
Rather than continuing to allocate money to a special program the bishops group oversaw to assist victims of modern-day slavery (i.e. human trafficking), the administration, instead, chose to give the funds to three non-Catholic groups.
See, the bishops conference had refused to refer trafficking victims to receive contraceptives or abortions, so the American Civil Liberties Union sued and HHS decided to provide funds to groups that would refer women for these services. The bishops conference is threatening to respond by taking legal action, while accusing the Obama administration of anti-Catholic bias. HHS, of course, denies these allegations.
Then there’s gay marriage — another contentious issue. The administration’s stance of not defending traditional marriage also contradicts Catholic teaching. Plus, there’s a proposed HHS mandate that would require private insurers to cover contraceptives without charge — yet another issue the Church opposes.
Needless to say, anything but common ground seems to be on the horizon. Whether this campaign will make a difference is yet to be seen.
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Comments (204)
Brushjumper
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:13pmNO surprise here, the liberal progressive muslim, as in Failed President is into abortion and hate of whites and christians…
The Failed President is both a liar, loser, and is destroying America. Secret Service personnel have stated he is a dishonest person and his wife hates white people. He is a very dangerous man and ignores the law in general, the will of the American people, Congress, and the Constitution.
There are no longer massive adoring crowds to deceive. For the first time in Barack Obama’s life, he is accountable. He has repeatedly shown that he cannot deal with, and will never be able to shoulder responsibility, as he is at his core a self-absorbed man, and a very dishonest human being.
Obama has never stood for individualism, capitalism, or liberty. The citizens of our country naively gave the reins of power to a tyrant. The White House has been marginalized and he has proven himself to be the most inept president in modern history. He is symbolic of a man who has downgraded the White House, the Constitution, human life, foreign policy, race relations, and America herself.
His resignation from office would be a great first step toward economic recovery. The majority of Americans are sick of his condescension, his policies, his racist bigotry, and his incompetence. Obama is “the most disastrous president in our history.”
Report Post »Matt39
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:13pmWouldn’t it be something if ALL the Catholic schools closed their doors and flooded the public schools with a few million children??? It’s time for the Catholics and All religious faiths in this country to KEEP obama and his minions OUT OF OUR CHRISTIAN and JUDEO way of life. He is NOT a president for ALL Americans just for the muslims. After 20 years in Rev. Wrights church and getting caught at it, he doesn’t go to any church now. He‘s not a christian and he’s lacks the cajones to say what he really is…
Report Post »HKS
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:38pmThis guy didn’t have to say many words before I saw an Anti-Christ, I‘m just amazed that so many people didn’t see it. He was exactly what I expect him to be.
Report Post »cherigc
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:21pmOK ALl you catholics, jews chrostians..PLEEEEZE! This is a man who was the ONLY SENATOR to stand up FOR late term abortions……There was a nurse explaining that the babies were born ALIVE ..He STILL advocated for late term abortions………..NOONE IS THAT IGNORANT!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:50pmA “liberty” is defined as a is basic right: a political, social, and economic right that belongs to the citizens of a state or to all people ( often used in the plural )
What liberties are being “trampled on?” What right does this group not have that they had before?
Report Post »JohnHW
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:29pmIt is surprising that he has even been seen entering a Christian church. Afterall, isn’t that a death sentence for a muslin. Of course, he is not a muslin and certainly not a Christian or Jew. I don’t think he believes in any Supreme Being except himself.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:56pmShould Notre Dame be surprised? It’s not like he has changed who he is…….Duhhhhh
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:42pmworse yet, what if all the Catholic hospitals close? It could happen once Obamacare is in force if all hospitals are required to do abortions (if not in the law not, it could be added0.Can you imagine how many people would be without health care, though as Catholics, those running the hospitals would do everything they could to continue helping patients.
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:54pmJZS
The issue is the right to one’s religeon and the free excercise there of (see first amendment). When an individual is forced by government to support things by mandated action and taxation that their religeon teaches against, they are prohibited from excerising their first amendment right.
In this case, Catholic healthcare institutions and personel are being forced to participate in progressive health policies relating to condom distribution and abortion for starters.
ALL taxpayers are being forced to support condom distribution and abortion (government abortion being the government sponsored and endorsed policy of a right to life infringement. A right to choose? Whose right is being violated? The pregnant woman made a choice 99% of the time. The life inside her didn’t choose but loses its right. There is no doubt that a life is assigned to that fetus. It is born with life and the right to it attached! The life is there before birth. So is the right. It’s constitutional. It’s Catholic. It’s American. To take that right violates all 3 standards.)
Report Post »sodacrackers
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:09pmWhen asked in an interview who Jesus was, Obama replied, “an historic figure.” Obama is a community organizer, which now ranks well below used car salesmen in public trust.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 11:25pmSounds like at least one Christian lobbying group feels burned after talking their congregations into voting for him. I’m guessing these are the same Progressive republicans who call themselves the Religious Right. The media does a good job of painting them as Conservatives, but they’re just as ready to legislate morality as Progressive Leftists.
Just because someone professes a love for Jesus doesn’t make them a freedom-loving American.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 12:38amBefore anyone answers JZS’s question, may I suggest first doing a little research into his definition of the words “Liberty” or Liberties”
While his definition may not be completely wrong in some sources, In my opinion, he is being less than forthcoming. He has set up a classic trap, based on a false premise.
“Individualist and classical liberal conceptions of liberty typically consist of the freedom of individuals from outside compulsion or coercion, also known as negative liberty, while Social liberal conceptions of liberty emphasize social structure and agency, or positive liberty.”
lib·er·ty [lib-er-tee] Show IPA
Report Post »noun, plural -ties.
1.
freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2.
freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3.
freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
4.
freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.
Armed Patriot
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 8:11am… “the president originally pledged to be sensitive to religious issues”.
He is sensitive. Muslims are excluded from the requirement of nobamacare. What dont these people understand. nobama is a patholigal liar. Everything he says is a lie. EVERYTHING. Havent you learned this YET???
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 1:16pmThe Only Reason They Are Rebelling Is Because of Bucannan’s Book About Suicide
The Catholic Universities have surrendered to Evil and Obama.
Only TEA can save us now.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 2:48pmObama is the Anti-Christ, the Evil One who will be defeated in the Final Battle.
Many modern day Christian leaders who agree that Islam is a Demonic Religion and Obama is the promised Demon, false prophet the one who will be defeated in the End.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 5:12pmBanzhaf, John F
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Washington, DC 20052
ph. (202) 994-7229
jbanzhaf@gwu.edu
jbanzhaf@law.gwu.edu (preferred email)
THIS IS THE GUY who is suing Catholic University because it won‘t ’provide a place for the Muslim students who go there go go pray without having to look at Christian Symbols’ (Unbelievable) MIND YOU …not one MUSLIM STUDENT HAS FILED A COMPLAINT…but this hot shot decided HE needed to file suit because it was Discrimination !! THIS IS part of the all fronts attack on our Precious CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE know they won’t prevail…but it’s so sad and frustrating to watch, isn’t it!
THIS guy tried to USE OUR FAITH against us as in: (This is their #1 fall back position) AS CHRISTIANS I thought you were considerate to everyone. 1) they think we are weak because we are concerned about others 2) they think Christianity means we‘re every one’s door mat – that being a push over is what CHRISTIANITY is about. They mistake civility for weakness.
OUR ANSWER TO THEM IS SIMPLE: Why are you in a Catholic School? Would you remove your little half moon thing for us? Can we take a BIBLE with us to the M.E.? NO? then how can you think that we should move our symbols for you? THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE of a MUSLIM. They do not worship our same GOD. They want to kill all of us. No one with any type of decency would think that in any relationship that it’s all one sided. SICKE
Report Post »tweetybird
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:12pmSo many “religious” people (whether Catholic, Christian etc….) were duped to vote for Obama…..imagine how many more will be duped to bowing down to the anti-christ. Pretty scary. And no……I do not think Obama is the anti-christ. I could tell from the beginning that Obama could not be trusted. That he was a fake.
Report Post »Charity in Truth
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:43pmAbortion is intrinsically evil. No Catholic should have voted for President Obama in view of his pro-abortion voting records which could have been easily researched through National Right to Life, Catholic Advocate, Family Research Council etc. I hope everyone does their homework before they vote in 2012 away from the liberal mainstream mass media. Abortion has killed over 53 million babies since Roe vs. Wade.
Report Post »Roe vs. Wade: Effects of 25 years of Constitutionalized Abortion on Demand: http://www.uffl.org/vol%208/wardle8.pdf
Jim in Houston
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:01pmCharity in Truth: You have to wonder why Pelosi hasn’t been excommunicated since is a vocal supporter of abortion. Unfortunately her mother wasn’t.
Report Post »Canyonman5555
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:14pmNot so fast my friend, he may yet prove that he is the anti christ. He still has a few months to go and the elections have not be held yet.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:18pmBeing Catholic, I was dissapointed yet again with the Church for backing Obama. Not this Catholic! I got my voter ID card to prove it. The guy’s Pro-abortion, he sat in the zealot,Rev.Wright’s church, after being elected certain Catholic universities he’s spoken at had to cover crucifixes so as not to offend Barry. To this Catholic group, you wanted him. backed him and you got what you wanted. Social Justice is continually weakening the church. Numbers are dropping off as it is.Why is this group surprised? Too little.Too late. At least they won’t back him in 2012.
Faith1029
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:26pmCHARITY IN TRUTH: “Abortion is intrinsically evil. No Catholic should have voted for President Obama in view of his pro-abortion voting records which could have been easily researched through National Right to Life, Catholic Advocate, Family Research Council etc.”
Exactly. I do not believe you are a truly a Christian if you vote for anyone who is pro choice. It is murder and murderers go to hell if they do not repent. The blood of the innocent cries out to God for justice.
Report Post »didymus
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:06pmAnd Sebelious claims to be a Catholic…as does Pelosi. God help us all!
Report Post »sodacrackers
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:11pmPelosi has excommunicated herself and should not receive the Eucharist.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 2:50pmThe devil’s greatest achievement is that he has convinced Man that he does not exist.
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:12pmIts hard to speak your mind when the clouds are so thick and heavy. I believe in God and his infinite powers. He will fix this problem. There will be no one world religion. Where there are two or more, need more be said?
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:24pmJust remember, the pharisees and sadducees are symbolic of all religious systems! Don’t confuse your faith with the religious system you received it through…………they are not the same. It was the religious systems of the day that did not like our saviour and handed him to the Romans to be killed………..the people loved him.
Report Post »JakeEllis
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:09pmSteelhead. This was the most fraud filled election in recent history. Barry is a muslim and has lied repeatedly to the contrary. Barry was born in Kenya to a black muslim father of british decent, and a caucasian mother that he has NEVER spoken of. Barry uses aphony,stolen SSN.
Report Post »Catholics. You are a large part, along with the Jews, that affected this communist muslims election. Dont start crying now. ALL communists do not believe or practice any form of Christianity, and this fraud from Kenya hates Christianity so much, he is doing everything he can on a up to the minute basis to usher in Islamic law and religion into this country. We might not get to the next election, as this fraud is doing everything he can to incite civil unrest and religious cleansing. Know who you support and elect in the future if we are afforded that freedom. I knew it, as did more than 50% of the Americans with true rights to vote did. It was your group, along with the Jews, and the abundance of illegal mexicans, and unauthorized felons plus all the dead people that were mustered to the polls that brought this destroyer of freedom to the position he has usurped and devalued.
Philo Beddoe
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:15pm“not making good on a pledge to seek “common ground” with Catholics — something he promised to do in a speech he gave early on in his presidency at Notre Dame. ”
The same place where he had any visual religious references to Jesus Christ or the Blessed Virgin Mary
covered during his presence
That speech??
Report Post »gallinipper
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:29pmJAKE….That is the most understandable, well written, honest and true post on this subject. THANK YOU
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:31pmI don’t know how many Catholics voted for Obama, but I didn‘t and most of the people I know didn’t. If you listened to him you would have known what he was going to do. And if you had listened to Michelle you would have known also. Anyone who discounted Obama’s 20 years listening to Rev. Wright would have known. How dumb do you have to be to believe he sat in that church for 20 years and didn’t know what Rev. Wright was all about. I know of a lot of Democrats who have seen the light and are not going to vote for Obama again. I pray that number increases every day. If the MSM had done their job, everyone would have known exactly what he was going to do. And Vechorik, I believe in legal immigration. Please stop lumping all Catholics in one pot.
Report Post »six6six
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:38pmHey Jake, where do you get your meds?
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:05pmJakeEllis: Put down the bong Jake. A great many of us Catholics DID NOT vote for this jackass. There were enough entitlement junkies, those riddled by white guilt, stupid college kids and brain dead to get him in office; however, many have awakened from their stupor and will either not vote or vote ABO.
Report Post »Jesussknight
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:11pmI am a Catholic, I didn’t vote for Obama and I never will. You can not say that all Catholics are to blame for the election of Obama and Catholic are Chistians(THE FIRST).
Report Post »Elaine P
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:32pmAMEN Brother. You said it right. And all the stupid women who swooned over him and voted for him…are you ready for this? are you sitting down? they are voting for him again. Unbelievable. How can anyone be so dumb and so ignorant?
Report Post »CommonSenseRN
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:51pmMost of the “catholics” who voted for him never go to church except maybe Christmas and Easter. I just don’t understand why all the “cafeteria catholics” consider themselves Catholic and partake of their own damnation by eating and drinking the body and blood of Christ in communion. Our local church and Bishop did it’s part and I certainly did. I told anyone who would listen about his (Obama) abortion record. Some people are just plain blind until satan begins to attach them. I just hope and pray more people wake up before it’s too late. All things can be cured through prayer and we need to pray and read the Scriptures everyday. God is calling us all to Him, and when we are very stubborn, it usually takes trouble to get our attention.
It is good to learn from your mistakes… Wisdom is learning from others mistakes.
Report Post »Volsense
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:08pmObama didn’t keep his promises??? Obama is incapable of the truth. Anyone who doesn’t see the narcissist for what he is cannot be competent enough to vote.
Report Post »Tranzwarr
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:58pmwake me up when the pope calls for gods crusaders to cleanse the heathens of the world….you will pay someday wicked evil mongers of satan.have a nice day
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:58pmJesus is the KING and His word is a light unto our feet and a lamp unto our pathway, That is our King our constitution if we are Christians. The disciples said, LORD teach us to pray:
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
16Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
17But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21For where you
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:05pm21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:07pmThese instructions Jesus gave kind of tell us where the religous left and the OWS people stand on protesting for money!
Report Post »tpach
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:58pmI just love the way every group has to take a turn in the “stupid chair”. Obama was elected by a majority of just about every demographic out there. Now that the Catholics are finally standing up to his administration, all other “Christians” are doing their part to point out that like the Jews, and everyone else, we were duped by this liar. I am Catholic, and did not vote for the man- I could see he was not to be trusted. At least the Catholics are standing up to him regarding the issues named here, I haven’t heard of any other significant number of any other denomination taking the stance! It seems to me that instead of doing and saying what you can to belittle the Church, you should support it, as it is Christian values they are fighting for!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:07pmMuch like the Papacy pandered to the Nazis because they were perceived as less of a threat to the church than communism (a foolish perception as both ideologies turned out to be a threat), the Catholic church believed Obama- an at best agnostic (at worst an atheist)- was going to usher in a policy of more happy catholics (read: influx Latin American of illegal immigrants) in the country. As with anything said by Obama it comes with an expiration date. Now all of a sudden they’re displeased with him? Obama’s just being Obama. It still amazes me that Obama’s supporters feel in some way short changed by him..his record as a do-nothing Senator and a know-nothing should have spoken volumes to them. Hopenchange aint so good.
Report Post »proud2bmom
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:11pmThe reason you aren’t hearing from other Christians is because they have opposed him all along. It’s not newsworthy to note that the Southern Baptists, for example, disagree with Obama.
Report Post »mficentral
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:34pmAmen….
Report Post »mule creek ridge
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:57pmMuslims are ANTI-Judeo-Christian any thing.
Report Post »You people that have the slightest niggling doubt that this admin. is pro islam and anti any other view ,had best take the leap and BELIEVE that this administration is promoting islam above all !!!!!!!!!!!!!
CNK
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:52pmHey Cathlolic groups! After Obama visited Notre Dame and asked to cover all the Cathlic Statues, what did you the man stood for? If this man gets re-elected, they’ll be many things we all will be complaining, starting with our freedom.
Report Post »Odiseus5
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:46pmBoy did you hit the nail on the head. It’s about time.
Report Post »Virginia Joe
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:50pmAs for the Catholics who got fooled , a wise man once said, “You can always get what you want. You can always get what you want. You can always get what you want. But if you try some time, you just might find, you get what you need ….”
Report Post »Balrog28
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:54pmThat would be: “You can’t always get what you want…”
Yes and “Wild wild horses couldn’t drag me away” from seeing Comrade Zero losing the next election.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:47pmNice to know that since they helped elect him!
Report Post »annieoakley
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:44pmAnd when he spoke at Notre Dame no one questioned his insistence on the covering of all religious symbols? Now the Muslims at a Catholic University want all symbols where they “pray five times a day”covered or removed. What will be their next demand? Remember, the koran allows lying and encourages lying to advance the Sharia.
Report Post »charlenefisher
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 11:48pmI was wandering when someone would mention that. My question is why did they allow him to dictate to them? Why allow him to speak one word if it meant covering up the symbols of all they propose to believe in. He would have NEVER stepped his first step into my home or business if I was told I had to cover up what I believed in. ( I wouldn’t let that alkeda dictator into my home anyway)
Report Post »PenaF
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:39pmI am Catholic and did not vote for Obama. Yet, I am amazed as to why the Catholic Church leaders backed Obama for President in the last election. Over 56% of Catholics were duped to vote for Obama. Now church leaders are complaining the Obama Administration is trampling on Catholic’s beliefs and rights.
Sounds like they backed the wrong person for President…. shouldn’t be whining now!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:03pmThe Catholics should have mentioned that a lot of foreign aid to other countries is for abortion.
Report Post »dad5golf
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:11pmYes, 56% of people that identified themselves as Catholic voted for Obama, but that number was well under 50% for ‘practicing’ Catholics. There are many people that call themselves Catholics(including MANY politicians) that really don’t believe in what the Church teaches. I call them ‘secular Catholics’-in fact I used to be one but now I am very much a practicing Catholic. Nobody in our circle of friends that go to Mass every Sunday voted for Obama!
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:30pmThis is good to see. It only took THREE YEARS for the Jewish and Catholic groups to remove their blinders and become aware of the facts. This Imposter-in-Chief and his radical Communist wife are the most dangerous thing to ever occupy the White House. Their goal is the DESTRUCTION of our Republic and it being replaced with a Socialist People’s Republic. They MUST be stopped immediately!! Impeach, Arrest and Imprison, NOW before it is too late.
Report Post »adastra2005
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:50pmAs much as I’d like Obama to simply not wake up tomorrow morning … it is critical that the nation gets to judge his policies via the ballot box. That being said, I pray every day that he is defeated in the biggest landslide in the history of US Presidential elections.
Report Post »Stlucia
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:44pmSo True Big Jay, this must happen before the election. We can not depend on a legal election. I pray everyday and ask others to pray that this man and his pinions be removed from office by way of civil law/ While we still have the law and constitution. No violence. only the TRUTH to come out in all the dealings this man has done to our country. I pray we can accept the truth when it comes out, and have the courage to bring this man and his administration to justice.
Report Post »makeemstop
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:29pmI’m Christian (not Catholic), and personally I find it hard to believe for someone to hold Christian values dear while at the same time support Democrat/liberal principles. They clearly contradict each other in many ways.
On a separate but similar topic, why do Jewish and Black people also vote Democrat?
It’s confusing… very very confusing.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:52pmA former Church body that was I was a member of thought that we should look over the church constitution, I had never read it, as I read it, it stated that the church was a democratic organism! I said what! I went to the Pastor and said what idiot wrote this up. No way the church is a democratic organism. The church is governed by Jesus and the Bible. Needless to say I’m not a member of that church body anymore.
Report Post »mficentral
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:44pmI agree with you. It is very confusing. I recently asked a Rabbi why so many Jews vote Dem. (7out of 10) He said the same reason that Ted Kennedy Catholics vote Dem. I still don’t get it. With Obama working for the destruction of Israel, why would they vote for him? With Obama promoting abortion, why????
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:27pmI have met too many “catholics” (and other sects of christianity) like ROSE-ELLEN. Their version of “christanity” has become nothing more than a Sunday ritual that has little to no impact on daily living, moral choices, or political decision-making.
Obama stood up before thousands and advocated getting an abortion for his daughter (should she become pregnant) so she wouldn’t have to be “punished” with a child. A nonsensical and immoral argument if I ever heard one.
And yet, untold millions of “christians” voted for the man.
“And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.” ~ Jesus
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:09pmOh and Americanism-has become the real religion of too many professed christians and Christianity is becoming more of a culture and a foil against hated genocidal targets-muslims.. You can’t serve too masters Jesus said-and today too many professed christians are doing that.I see european style socialist/hybrid democracies as being more conforming to Christianity then puritalincal if you’re rich you must be good-right wing hypercapitalism.I’m not a calvinist and i reject calvinist and puritanical [pull yourselves up by your own boot straps] ideology as an inversion of Christianity.[the meek ,the despised ,the lowly, the pure of heart, the peacemaker is where Jesus makes His home!].
Report Post »mficentral
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:51pmI can assure you TH3OPH1LUS, there are more Catholics who believe in GOD and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST and take their attendance in Mass VERY seriously. It is part of our daily life and determinds all of our lives. You have got to take off your blinders and see the sunshine. We are millions.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:56pmMy first response not posted.
Report Post »I support the Church on this. i’m against abortion and artifical birth control. My loyalty is to my conscience[ my sense of right and wrong], Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church.I never voted for Obama because he’s pro choice, pro-preemptive war and pro-torture.Unfortunately too many Democrats are pro “choice” but much of Republican right wing ideology goes against my conscience.As Dylan says-lies that life is black and white.
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:58pm@ ROSE-ELLEN,
YAY! I’m glad you responded! Please tell me, do you believe the Bible is the Word of God, and that His Word is eternal? Did you vote for Obama? Do you believe that God’s covenant with Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is still important to God? Just a few starter questions. Make it a great Tuesday!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:02pmMore pointless, mindless, rambling, poorly puncuated drivel from the porch muslim rose ellen. Yawn, Zzzzz…
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:06pm@ Mficentral,
glad to hear it!
Are the California Catholics asleep at the wheel? What about all the other Christians? Why could we not muster up enough votes to come against the gay agenda in our public schools? http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/8110-calif-bill-public-schools-must-teach-gay-history-in-social-studies
We will be held accountable for our apathy. Just sayin’.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:55pmYes His word is eternal [Jesus is the Word ,after all].The old testament however is not literal though based in history. The truths are spiritual truths. Terms like jerusaalem and mount Zion-once literal for the jews in their history-become terms that apply to all mankind with the coming of the messiah of all mankind [jesus Christ] He is the new adam and calls us to follow Him.Hence salvation history as presented in the OT-takes on a spiritual dimension. Zion is heaven and jerusalem is the Church which he founded so that all people can find refuge in.Or the soul .. A purely historc consideration of the OT-is primitism.The jews are both subjects in the historic situatuion in the OT AND they stand fort all mankind. in their/our struggles,sins, and need of salvation. They are us[[all mankind]and their literal history is out spiritual history.God‘s covenent with abraham isaac and jacob is also God’s covenant with all mankind and the messiah of all mankind has come-Jesus Christ. .God doesn’t abandon anyone. Israel, jerusalem ,mount zion etc, no longer means for anyone [including the jews who have been saved by the messiah Jesus Christ] a place of real estate for whom this tribe belongs and not that one. That’s primitive religion-God calls us to be spiritual people-a resurrected people made holy by the saving grace of jesus Christ. God’s not a zionist [in real estate terrms] To think he is ia barbaric-and a primitive view of God.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 12:57pmROSE-ELLEN says: “The old testament however is not literal though based in history.”
Jesus Christ says: “I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”
I think I’ll go with Jesus on this one.
Report Post »Watcher1952
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:25pm“ He has abandoned his word”……How many times has this lying sack of crap done that…let me see…..OH YA….EVERYTIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH HE LIES. He is wanting more violence to happen…maybe he can excutive order a MILITIA STATE and then have real control….don‘t think for a moment that Barack Hussein Obama wouldn’t do it…power hungry….surpeme leader……. Lock and Load my fellow AMERICANS
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:48pmWow, Smith.. did you even read the article? It wasn’t bribe money!! “See, the bishops conference had refused to refer trafficking victims to receive contraceptives or abortions, so the American Civil Liberties Union sued and HHS decided to provide funds to groups that would refer women for these services”. Why the hate, dude? The Catholic Church never supported Obama as a candidate.. yes, there were/are individual Catholics who voted for him, just like other groups of people had individuals vote for him – but he was never officially supported by the Church. Please stop spewing hate.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:07pmI’m not a muslim -though i defend them from american 21stc genocidal anti-semites.
Report Post »I did not vote for obama.i don‘t vote as i’m against abortion,torture and preemptive war.And i’m for israel going back to the 67 borders.
I believe tha God chose the jews to first reveal Himself to. The old testament is background to the coming of the messiah-Jesus Christ. With the coming of the Lord and His death and resurrection-God’s covenant of love for His children and redemption for sins-extends to all humanity. The jews will always be the ones He first revealed Himself too. God loves all people equally-whether the ones first chosen to reveal himself to -the jews- or hindus ,budhists, muslims, athiests etc. God loves everyone-that is the message of the Good News of Jesus Christ. He gives us the giftt of everlasting life. That is where we are and that is what matters. Ancient political divisions based on tribes has nothing to do with Christianity. That’s paganis-[our tribe is favored by the gods ergo you don't count etc. Christ comes to open the gates of heaven -for which we were all created to be part of-the life of God.We're saved as individuals -not as members of any group or even faith[not all who say lord lord are pleasing] We come to Christ in different ways-including non Chrisitans. God searches hearts and He knows His own-those who strive to do His will-whether they have the gift of faith not. God knows who grows in holiness-attempts to do his will by searching the go
Davtam
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 9:45pm” We come to Christ in different ways-including non Chrisitans. God searches hearts and He knows His own-those who strive to do His will-whether they have the gift of faith not. God knows who grows in holiness-attempts to do his will by searching the go” -Rose Ellen
Report Post »What in the world???? There is only one way to salvation, faith is integral, and works do not allow for eternal life with God. Honestly, im confused. I‘ve never posted anything ugly to you so this isn’t an attack. I’m deeply concerned and confused that ANYONE that believes in salvation believes it is possible to get there multiple ways.
SlimnRanger
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:22pmWell glad to see the Catholics waking up, Obama is anti Christian ,anti Israel ,and i pray he is voted out of office next year
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:26pmThe majority of them will vote for him again and then act dumbfounded when his anti Christian agenda continues.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:28pm“ compromise”?
NO as SLIMNRANGER says .. throw him out!
TEA!
Report Post »tweet
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:34pmWhat took them so long?????? It didn’t occur to them when he covered the picture of Jesus prior to giving a speech at Notre Dame? That should have been a sign of things to come.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:41pmSome of us were awake when Obama first came on the scene. Many of us have long held and very open opposition to divorce, birth control, abortion and homosexuality. Just as the blacks were used as useful idiots by the Democrats beginning with civil rights, the Irish and Jews were useful idiots for the Democratic political machines in the major Eastern cities. I thnk that is why you see blacks, Catholics and Jews voting for a party that really hates them.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:12pmNice post, Dismayed Veteran. Love you, Brother (or Sister!) :)
Report Post »mficentral
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:01pmTo “SUGABEE” Please…..it is not the Catholic Church. It is the Liberal Bishops that stink up the church. Mother Angelica, who was on EWTN television years ago, fought them tooth and nail. They stayed out of her way. Don’t use their LIBERAL brush to paint the whole Catholic Church.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:08pmUm, I’m not. I am a practicing Catholic who is disheartened by SOME liberal Catholic laypeople, Bishops, and priests. If you read my other post on this thread, I belong to a parish that is totally AWESOME! I am a former Protestant who became Catholic precisely because my birth church was heading to liberal Hell in a Handbasket. I will fight tooth and nail to keep the Catholic faith the way it is meant to be.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 12:51pmThere’s only one way to salvation-through Jesus Christ. People can come toJesus Christ [who is God after all] in different ways. People who happen to not believe in Jesus Christ[belief is cognitive and for whatever reason not all people can assent honestly to a belief in Jesus Christ] ,may come to Him in other ways. How they live, how they treat tthe least of their brothers. Even the most evil acting person -can come to a place of remorse or guilt for sins committed. In an instant-even if at the end of ones life. God ‘s grace is present in these moments of remorse. Aspiring to be good and a turning away from sin are ways one who happens to not believe can be saved through Jesus. When did we see you hungry-in the least of these you saw me etc.. Christ is in others and we cooperate with His salific grace when we show remose for sins or when we try to do good and live ethically.. People can’t help what they believe.Faith is a gift to be treasured but not all people are given such a gift.To deny them salvation would make God capricious and immoral.We’re not primitive pagans and Christ is the fulfillment of human spiritiuality-come to save us with the gift of eternal life and forgiveness of sins and bring us our of supersitious primitive religon. God’s grace is present in more then just those who have faith in Him.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:22pmDear Catholics …You can’t find common ground with a communists….He believes in the god of government..not the heavenly GOD …..
Report Post »joe conservative
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:21pmIt’s about time that some of these groups start standing up for themselves. I can understand why some haven’t with all the domonizing this administration has been doing, but it’s time for people to stand up to all this corruption. This short video shows all the corruption involved in the so called “clean energy” loans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNc7h-8DGcQ
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:17pmYes I am here to tell you to make straight the way of the Lord. And it’s also why they are here.
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Eliasim
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:31pmAs I have told you already, Jesus Christ was crucified once, and it isn’t going to happen again, because he has already shown you what it means to subdue the earth. You can do what you want to people whom speak the truth, but you will have them to answer to, and they answer to God.
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:17pmObama is just bad news.
Obama’s birth certificate alleges “where” he was born and his parent’s citizenship “when” he was born. These equally important “facts” are now beyond Obama’s ability to refute, alter or hide! Unless fake, his Kenyan father inescapably precludes his Constitutional eligibility as a natural born citizen by not being born within US jurisdiction to TWO US citizen parents.
Candidates for President, each having “legal standing” are therefore obligated to sue Obama and the DNC for fraud and failure to qualify as a natural born citizen, or be dismissed as untrustworthy!
Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” proves they aren’t equal, or no exemption was needed. Being not less than nor equal, a NBC must be more than the minimum requisite for citizenship then, which was US birth to a US citizen parent. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater, thus defining a natural born citizen.
The Supreme Court agreed in Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” Leo Donofrio, JD.
http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:21pmget over it you lost, but you do look funny as you howl at the moon
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:50pm@ Steelhead
Wow, if you’re that complacent about the worst political scam in the history of America, then you’re really not going to like this!
Sheriff Joe Arpaio‘s investigators probing Obama’s eligibility for the 2012 Arizona ballot, have uncovered sufficient reason to want to see Obama’s original birth certificate and to also further investigate his similarly suspicious Social Security number and duel citizen status.
WND. “Sheriff Joe’s posse delivers promised Obama surprise. Panel probing eligibility for 2012 ballot wants to see original birth certificate” (October 31, 2011) http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=362625
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:51pmobamabirthcertificate.net
Now we both know that’s a bunch of hogwash. You know perfectly well that the Supreme Court made it very clear in their decision on Minor v Happersett that they were NOT setting a precedent by establishing a complete and exclusive definition of natural born citizen,
“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
And that there is no definition in the Constitution, and that the Supreme Court finally settled the issue in 1898 when they said that anyone who was born here is a natural born citizen, and that has been the law of the land ever since. And you should know that even if you were right on the legal theory, no candidates are going to sue, because they know that no judge can rule against what the Congress and the Supreme Court say the law is.
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:03pm@CH
You’ve re-posted what the Blaze moderator saw fit to remove. It‘s creepy that you’re doing this after my posts like some demented stalker.
If you’re offended by properly referenced facts, that’s too bad. Try getting some of your own. If and when you ever do, be sure to cite your sources. Until then, get a clue! Nobody cares about the habitually uniformed incorrect opinion of a troll.
You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly justify such lies? Be gone, foul Obot. Your very name screams ignorance and treason.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 9:03pmI’ve reposted what you had removed using the excuse that I had addressed you in an insulting manner, because you could not refute it through logical debate. I didn’t think I needed to reference the quote I used because you ran it on your own website. It’s from the Supreme Court decision on Minor v Happersett – the part that Donofrio didn’t highlight, because to didn’t support his contention that the case set a precedent defining a natural born citizen.
I justify my statements in the real world, where Congress and the Supreme Court decide what the law means, not you and Leo Donofirio.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:16pmNationwide, 54 percent of Catholics supported Obama and 44 percent voted for McCain. Maybe you should have looked a little closer at the man before you voted for him.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:28pmYes, Gonzo, it’s extremely disappointing to know some of my fellow Catholics have voted for the man, and for others like Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi – all of whom are “Catholic”, but see nothing wrong with being “Cafeteria Catholics” and choosing which doctrine they like while eschewing the ones they do not. Either you are fully in communion with Church teaching or you are not. Those Catholics who choose to support artificial contraceptives, abortion, fetal stem cell research, same-sex marriage, etc., will have to answer to the Creator of all Authority – if not in this world, then in the next. Luckily, I am blessed to have a pastor who is unafraid and unashamed to stand before his congregation (the largest in my state) and tell the truth about this administration and whoever tells us we have to compromise our faith and beliefs in the name of the government!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:38pmGlad you’re not offended Sugabee, I am certainly not anti Catholic. I am just always amazed that so many Catholics support the liberal abortion machine in this country. It baffles me.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:45pmSUGABEE
I agree with you. I continue to believe that “cafeteria catholics” should be excommunicated.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:06pmI also disagree with Catholics ignoring immigration laws. They rather tend to some poor soul who broke the law rather than obey the law of the land. Tending to one person is fine, but what about the health of the nation as a whole? In strength, we can help many. In weakness, we do well to help only ourselves.
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