Trayvon‘s Parents React to Zimmerman Interview and ’God‘s Plan’: ‘Don’t Know What God George Zimmerman is Worshiping’
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Trayvon Martin's parents said in an interview Thursday they reject George Zimmerman's apology for killing their son. (AP)
Trayvon Martin‘s parents don’t accept George Zimmerman’s apology for killing their son, and reject his claim that it was “God’s plan” the way events leading up to his shooting death unfolded.
“I simply really don’t know what god George Zimmerman is worshiping, because there’s no way that the god that I serve had in his plans for George Zimmerman to murder my son,” father Tracy Martin said Thursday on CBS, the morning after Zimmerman’s first televised interview aired on Fox News.
Sybrina Fulton, Martin’s mother, said she didn’t believe Zimmerman when he apologized for shooting her son.
“I have a hard time accepting it because he also said that he doesn’t regret anything that he did that night, and I don’t think God would have him in his plan to murder an innocent child,” Fulton said.
Zimmerman, currently out of jail, is charged with second-degree murder in the unarmed Florida teen’s death.
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Kafir-Islamsux
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:35amSorry Martins…you have no idea what God’s plan is. But we all know you son was a thug and brought this on himself.
Report Post »1snake1
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:43amI don‘t think you know what the word ’know’ means. But that is common from Christians who ‘know’ the universe is 10K years old….
HowTruthHurts
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:53am@1snake1
I don‘t think you know what the word ’know’ means. But that is common from Anti-Christians who ‘know’ the universe is more than 10K years old….
Report Post »1snake1
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:13amCreationists are hilarious!!
And I’m not anti-christian. I‘m anti ’anti-rationality’. Is it my fault the two so often line up in America today?
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:18amWhat’s up with all these comments that are so disrespectful? Regardless of what you believe you can’t blame the parents for being angry. Everyone needs to show some compassion for their loss. Doesn’t mean you have to think treyvon was in the right.
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:23amYea, black987, he was a choir boy….totally innocent of ANYTHING!
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:40amWe all choose what path in life to follow, our choices and the consequences are ours alone, we cannot blame God or man but have to accept our deeds both good and evil. God will reveal the truth of what happened that night, God is the only one who knows what is in a mans heart and the words that are spoken both in public and private. Both George and Trayvon choose a path with deadly consequences.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:12pmI never said he was innocent of anything or guilty of anything. Just many comments are almost implying they don‘t’ care he died because he was a “thug” (according to them) and the parents raised him to be bad. At the end of the day they still lost their son.
Report Post »RajCaj
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:16pmThis really has less to do with god, or his plan, and more to do with grieving parents that are blind to any other reality than their innocent son was murdered because of his color….facts be damned.
I’m not saying I “know” exactly what happened….or even that Zimmerman is 100% truthful in his case. What I am saying is that the facts that have been released so far support Zimmerman’s story over what the Martian camp is alleging what happened.
A rational fair minded person can conclude, given the history of recent robberies, description of said perps, history of Zimmerman’s background, FBI investigation finding no evidence of racism or hate crime, etc…..that there is at the VERY LEAST some doubt of this being a situation where an innocent black kid (minding his own business) was chased down and shot dead because of racial prejudice….which is the Martin’s story.
Unfortunately, the Martin‘s aren’t in a rational state, or fair minded. What started out as “We just want Justice” & “Justice = Arrest”…..has turned to “Justice = Conviction of 2nd Degree Murder”
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:16pm‘Don’t Know What God George Zimmerman is Worshiping’
It’s not the gold capped teeth, thug-god of black culture.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:26pm@HowTruthHurts Are you seriously implying that the world is not more than 10,000 years old? No you can’t be as that would be consistent with saying Bachmann and Palin are the US brain trust and Romney shielded his money in Switzerland and Cayman Island accounts because, as any good christian citizen he was protecting it from Trayvon Martin.
Report Post »soysauce
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:27pm@1snake1
Report Post »Watch “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” Mr. Ben Stein brings your feelings against intelligent disign to the table. It’s the responsibility of all of us to continue our research in science and religion for the answers to our creation. Your opinion of creationisms absurdity is as far fetched as your ability do disprove it. Maybe you should humble yourself and remain in question of the matter.
JRook
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:31pm@black9897 Let’s be clear as the point seems to be skipped over constantly. Trayvon Martin was walking home to his Aunts house with an Ice Tea and a bag of Skittles. He had done nothing wrong that night either before or after Zimmerman decided to follow him, get out of his car, confront him, shoot and kill this 17 year old kid. The only one who has a case for stand your ground is Trayvon, who was confronted by Zimmerman, an individual who was carrying deadly force.
Report Post »ddg7
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:35pmPerhaps if they hadn’t taught him to hate non-blacks he would still be alive.
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:36pmComrades, everyone knows, it’s proven science, that Mankind was created by Karl Marx! Stalin said so himself! How dare you criticise the greatest leader ever!
Report Post »Remember, the gulags are still sitting there, and they do have beds available!
mecanic
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:47pmdid you notice that the dead thugs parents have different last names? my kids have the same name as me and my wife and we RASIED them. there not THUGS like trayvon was. one less THUG in the world. god bless george zimmerman.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:03pmddg7
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:35pm
“Perhaps if they hadn’t taught him to hate non-blacks he would still be alive.”
You’ve hit the nail right on the head with that observation. They look like two buzzards waiting to hone in on the financial carcass that will make them millionaires.
The black, racist perp was filled with Jeremiah Wright’s, et al, induced rabid hate and was consumed generally with out-of-control, non-black hate.
This is NOT a complicated case.
The neighborhood watchman was viciously assaulted for monitoring suspicious activity, which was uncalled for, and the perp was shot for it.
Case closed.
And, if any body is owed an apology it is GeorgeZimmerman. But that should be forthcoming when he files his civil suits, just as they were in the Richard Jewel case and the Nifonging of the Duke LaCrosse team.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:12pm@JROOK
We don’t know who confronted who. Zimmy did act wrongly, and I think Treyvon probably did to. Zimms was eager to stop crimes that had been going on. It scared his wife so I’m sure he was already on edge and very eager to protect his family. I’m also sure that Treyvon saw Zimms and no doubt got an attitude (which I’m not blaming him, since he probably thought why is some dude watching me). Now, I do not think he intended to kill anyone; it just seems it was a huge misunderstanding that ended up very tragically.
Report Post »DisgruntledInClinton
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:36pmAlthough I don‘t agree with Trayvon’s parents and I hope they watched the Zimmerman interview with Hannity, all in all, I think they are handling all of this with calmness and grace.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:46pmWhat God are the Martins worshiping ? I bet they claim to be christians, and I bet they vote democrat, the party of abortion, and the party of stealing from other people, the chosen party of aetheists, Im sure Jesus would disagree with your party choices.
It is too bad this had to happen, but it sounds like Martin came up to him and started going off on him and hit him and broke his nose and started to slam zimmermans head on the ground, (like the witness said) and the told zimmerman that he was going to die tonight, zimmerman had every right to shoot him, and if zimmerman was really out to get Martin because he was black, (like the other side says) he could have shot him BEFORE all this happened !
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:51pm1SNAKE1,
There is no evidence that carbon dating is accurate beyond 8000 years or so, and if there was a great flood, that would blow carbon datings theory out the window even further, evolution is even more absurd than creation, I mean have you really read what evolutionists beleive ?
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:54pmCome on people call it what it was self-defense. He was getting the hell beaten out of him, and could have possibly died, it was not murder it was self-defense. It was stupid that he even when to jail in my opinion, I think the pres and MSM are to blame for that. You know that thug punk young adult was Obamas if he had a son.
Report Post »FFTyranny
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:23pm@black9897
Whats sad is that you can’t see that these two grieving parents have been influenced by a racist society bent on getting back at whitey in this country.
I think Trayvon was a thug and his parents either didn‘t know or wouldn’t recognize one because they live that culture themselves.
When people are grieving they can easily be open to manipulation.
Al Shotty Sharpton and the other thugs that try and dress like good people pushed these two parents into this racist bullcrap.
I will still pray for all of them and have and hope it ends soon. I will not be praying for justice because Trayvon got what a thug usually gets when being one.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:38pm@FFTYRANNY
How do you know that? Do you know them personally or have they come out and said that?
Maybe he was, I don’t know.
Of course they can. I think they’ve done pretty well to have lost a son. Either way no one should be attacking the parents.
Report Post »RETIREDOLDGUY
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:41pmHis parents are playing this media attention for all its worth. By the time its over the death of their son will have made them multi-millionaires. SHAMEFUL.
Report Post »DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:05pmThese are not bright people we’re dealing with here.
Report Post »ripley
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:10pmSo, you were a witness?
Report Post »pcnav
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 5:37pmI agree with you…this Trayvon kid died a thugs death. However, Zimmerman going through this now is the price he’s paying for getting out of that car. When he was told to stay put he should have. There was no one in the right here.
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:29pmMaybe they’d have been OK if he said it was “fate” or “karma”?
Report Post »Conservative-Atheist
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:44pm@Kalish
“There is no evidence that carbon dating is accurate beyond 8000 years or so”
Wow man…I mean wow!! Your level of ignorance is absolutely appalling. Pick up a book once in a while that isn’t titled “The Bible”. Maybe then you won’t go around saying things that make you sound like a babbling idiot…with all due respect.
Report Post »MSBrewer
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 12:24am@Conservative-Atheist
Actually your right it isn’t accurate out to about 8000years…It can’t even accurately date the Mount St. Helens eruption…the results of those tests were all over the board. and it was done specifically to show the accuracy of the carbon dating method. the problem with all of our dating methods is that they follow a uniformitarian approach assuming all things that happen in the natural world would happen at the same rate throughout the life of the universe.
Look at the rate of salt entering the ocean for one…To reach the level of salinity that the oceans currently have, following a uniformitarian viewpoint could not be longer than 62million years. That accounts for the amount that is removed through natural functions as well. That is just one of thousands of examples of uniformitarians getting it wrong.
The answer to how old our universe is, is still hotly debated even among evolutionists…They themselves say their models are not accurate and cannot provide for some things in the fossil record as well as the geological strata. So how about you pick up a book not titled “Modern Science” or “Scientific American” and get to reading from other scientitsts who may not be getting the face time that the mainstream of science does. Scientists have agendas and the organizations of them even more so.
To clarify, I think the jury is still out. It is intellectually dishonest to assume the current answers are The Answers.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:57am.
Report Post »Mr. Martin:
Where were you on that fateful night?
Trayvon walks to a 7-11, doesn’t come back,
and no one calls the police for 12 hrs?
Why did you allow him to visit and smoke dope while
he was suspended from school for smoking dope?
Did he bring his underage girlfriend with him?
Call me a racist, but I’ll never understand black families.
inblack
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 12:21pm@1SNAKE1
“And I’m not anti-christian.”
Talk about self-deception. Are all atheists liars?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 12:27pm@BLACK9897
They lost their “son” when they had him out of wedlock, when they failed to marry and raise him in a stable family, when they took on other sex partners, when they let him become a hood, when they covered for his bad behavior,, when they housed him in a half-decent neighborhood after he was suspended from school, when they let him wander off to make his cough syrup home made drug.
They are guilty of raising a hood and they are now milking it for money and attention.
Don’t try to garner my pity. Their ill-conceived off-spring has created a political football that makes us all less safe and ruined George’s life.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 2:32pmSo because of their mistakes that somehow makes him less of a human and we should all cheer for his death? Not everyone that was raised poorly or had bad parents grows up to be a bad person. Recognizing the loss of another human being and that even though they made some bad choices a life was still lost is ok, it doesn’t mean you agree with how he was raised or that he was a great guy. You make it sound as if he was a career criminal who had just come off a series of murders.
Btw, Zimms doesn’t have the best past either. And don‘t think for a second he’s telling the whole truth or that he wasn’t part of the problem.
Report Post »ambrosia
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:35pmWhat God was your son worshipping when he committed all his other crimes ?
What God was your son worshipping when he sat on top of Zimmerman,
breaking his nose and slamming his head into the pavement ?
Your troubled son was in control & he chose to beat and pummel-
what God would give him permission to act in such a vulgar & violent way ?
God’s plan is always to protect the real victim against the aggressor-
Report Post »sometimes it follows through, sometimes it falls through.
This time, God’s plan went accordingly, he enlisted the help of an eyewitness.
an eyewitness, on the ground, who can verify every word of George Zimmerman.
God knows the truth and so do you.
this1can
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:34amwhy would a person keep beating another person that was screaming for help, unless the person that was doing the beating is out of their mind crazy with allot of hate in them. Or was it just because he was being fallowed and he wanted it stopped. Love/pray
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:46amI think the 400 years of oppresion took its toll on Trayvon…even though he was only on the planet for under 20 years.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:09amThe whole story is that Martin circled back and attacked Zimmerman from behind as he left the scene. If that’s the case, then this wasn’t “murder” as the Marting parents claim. It was justified homicide.
Accept the apology of a man who regrets being put in the situation by their son. Accept it ans move on.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:44pm@This1Can
–”Or was it just because he was being fallowed and he wanted it stopped.”
So, if youre being “fallowed” you have a right to sucker punch someone and slam their head against the concrete multiple times, saying “You’re gonna die tonight mother f**ker!”
Report Post »woodrowsux
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:03pmI find it interesting that Zimmy can’t win here. At the outset he was criticized for not apologizing. He did so in court and the Martin/ Sabrina did not accept his apology. Then there is a nationwide rally to arrest Zimmy and they are still not satisfied. If the black panthers kill this guy before trial the parents will complain that Zimmerman should have been tortured a la 1930′s gas chambers and suffered more. The modern black man and woman is 95.5% a disgraced race and I would love to “invest” as Obama says in government funded reparative deportation back to Africa to start anew. for the 5%of patriotic blacks like Allen West and Clarence Thomas. Addition by subtraction for the 95%
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WillG
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:32amWhat an example these Low-Life uneducated parents set for their precious Baby Boy. Listening to them speak turns my stomach. I truly believe the Thug got what he deserved. In addition I believe if more Law abiding citizens like Mr. Zimmerman would take a stand against these Thugs no matter their race the streets would be safer. If were I in this type of situation I would without hesitation.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:38am“I truly believe the Thug got what he deserved”
really? sick sick sick sick sick SICKO.
Report Post »1snake1
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:42amAnd you would end up in jail with Zimmy.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:51amDon’t worry Snake. As soon as we get that commie Obama out of office we will not see any more snowman-railroad jobs like the one done on Zim. Zim is gonna walk, and he will see great monetary gain in the future. You think whitey is going to sit around and watch an innocent man get shafted and nothing will be done about it? I wish I can see your face when Zim walks. THAT will be priceless- ha ha ha ha ha……
Report Post »WillG
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:57amSicko? You don’t know the half of it. Killing is just as breathing if I feel an imminent threat.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:03am@Philly cheese and @Snake….It would have been much more just and better ending if “Zimmy” was pummeled to death, or brain injured, or in a coma? The only reason there is a trial is the result of the NAACP, Rev. Sharpton, Pres. O, Eric Holder, and the MSM already holding court!!!
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:08amWILLG and TEIN – he brought the threat on himself. it’s impossible to deny that if Zimmerman had not been following Martin then none of this would have happened. since we don’t know what happened after that i will not speculate or judge – Zimmerman might very well have been protecting himself. that doesn‘t change the fact that if he had neither followed him nor carried a weapon we wouldn’t be discussing this now.
Report Post »jeffile
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:23amAnd if the woman had not not gone down that street she would never had been raped. Please don’t blame the victim. If Trayvon was getting off Zimmerman and starting to stand then it could only have been to administer the kick or stomp to the head.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:25amP ATHEIST: Yeah. Let’s Blame the need for Neighborhood Watch on the Neighborhood Watch guys …not on the criminal element who made this necessary . DUH. Maybe re-run the old Blame Bush routine for the Democrats’ 2007 Affordable Housing Act which used the Discrimination Card to force banks to give home loans ” to poor minorities.” Yeah, just keep those Lefty Big Lies coming since you think we are too dumb to see through all of this Democrat Smoke and Mirrors .
Report Post »RajCaj
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:24pmI think it’s fair to point out that the Martins are in a state of denial, and aren’t thinking rationally about what happened. As a result, they can’t accept a reality outside of their “little boy” being innocent and without fault. Having people like Sharpton, and other race pimp yes men, in their ear the entire time certainly doesn’t help them come to terms with what actually happened.
What isn’t fair though, is to make assumptions of their character. We don’t have any information that is deserving of your characterization. Good parents have bad kids sometimes…and it sure doesn’t make things easier having to fight against the pop thug culture in the black community. He has two parents…that’s a start.
Again, its fair to criticize how they are handling the case, but take it easy on their character.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:49pmYou have the right to meander around a neighborhood you don‘t live in at night alone in the rain wearing suspicious clothing aware or unaware that the neighborhood you’re creeping around has had trouble with burglaries very recently.
But you do not have the right to not be questioned by somebody. It‘s not your place to punch someone who wants to know what you’re doing there.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:01pmPA, using your logic(or lack thereof)we can blame the child killed while riding his bike near a drive by for getting himself shot. After all he had no business riding his bike on a public street in an urban area.
Report Post »Zimmerman did the right thing as a neighborhood watch person he followed the a person he didn’t know,that was act suspicious wondering in a neighborhood that had been hit with several B AND E rescently. Like I said before switch the races and watch how fast you people shut up or defend black Zimmerman.
RajCaj
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:48pm@ Phillyathiest
George had every right to follow someone who he thought was suspicious. NOT suspicious because he was black, but suspicious because he was dressed & acted in the same manner consistent with perps that had previously gotten away Breaking & Entering. If your not familiar with the context of events that had happened in the neighborhood prior to the shooting…I suggest you read the Reuters article that covers it.
Just as Treyvon had every right to walk in the neighborhood, George had every right to question his motives, considering the situation. (strange person, walking leisurely in the ran at night, behind people’s houses).
If Zimmerman’s version of the story is accurate (all the credible evidence so far seems to support his claim), Treyvon DOES NOT have the right to attack another person (especially a community watch person) for checking up on him.
You can’t hang the eventual outcome of what happened on whether or not Zimmerman followed Treyvon. He was well within his rights to do so.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:30am“ISDS” It’s self defense stupid. Boycott this story…. Obamaunist’s will go put on a show in the halls of congress. But face it stupid, the African Public cares more about this story, than they do all the other murder’s in Chicago, The Chicago Marxist in Chief, or the Unemployment rate of African Americans. The African American voters will vote for the ridiculous Disastrous Oblamer just because of Trayvon.
Report Post »Now that is an ignorant reason to vote for a person. Like not voting for Romney because he supposedly might have bullied a supposedly gay dead dude, or not voting for Romney because he carried a dog in a dog carrier on top of a car. When Choom Choom Ate a dog.
awakeningiscoming
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:29amBoy, people realllly have selective listening, don’t they?? Glad the court doesn’t. Just because they want to spew lies and act like they didn‘t hear certain things doesn’t mean anything about George Zimmerman’s character.
He was simply doing his job. WHAT HE SAID was that he doesn’t regret getting out of the car or carrying a gun. HE SAID HE DOES regret, obviously, that Trayvon is dead. How can you REGRET saving your own life?? If THEY were in the same position, about to be killed, they would have defended themselves. People cannot be afraid of defending themselves, and furthermore, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHMAN cannot be afraid of doing their job!
He doesn’t regret getting out of his car or carrying a gun because as someone with the duty to protect a neighborhood known for crime, ONE CANNOT live in fear!!! obviously!! He was WILLING to sacrifice HIS life to keep his neighborhood safe from the thugs that run it. And he has paid with his life, even though he’s innocent, and no matter if the jury deem him innocent. Which they WILL. If more people, more cops were like him, we‘d have safer streets instead of hustling cops who don’t give a crap. (Not saying all cops, but some i’ve experienced).
Report Post »1snake1
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:39amHe was a SELF-APPOINTED neighborhood watch captain. This wasn’t his job. This wasn’t something the neighborhood asked him to do. He was just a thug with a gun looking for trouble, and when he found it he used that gun to avoid acting like a man.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:49am1snake1 so being a community organizer taking tax payers money and shoveling it to special interest groups make you more noble that to volunteer to help keep your neighborhood safe????
Report Post »Perspective
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 5:20pm@1snake1 Are you that stupid naturally or have you had to work hard at it? Martin was the thug as ALL the evidence shows. He smoked dope he got busted with pot,women’s jewelry,and a screwdriver,at school. Screwdriver is the most common burglary tools there is,ask any cop.He was quite probably one of the B&E criminals that had already hit the neighborhood just scouting out his next target. Martin just picked the wrong guy to attack and HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED!
Report Post »RajCaj
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 5:48pm@1SNAKE
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425
Do yourself a favor and read the above linked article from Reuters. They actually did some investigative journalism, and has provided REAL context as to why things happened they way they did.
George was NOT a self appointed community watch captain. He was asked by the community after a series of breaking & entering crimes (by young black males) in the neighborhood.
George purchased a firearm after a POLICEMAN recommended he do so to provide safety against a neighborhood pit-bull they had a previous run in with. (Originally he bought mace, but the cop recommended that he needed something with a little more stopping power) He took gun handling courses and applied & received his permit to carry.
Get your story straight…you might find that there is some narrative outside your very narrow assumptions.
Report Post »handsmcml
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:19amI guess that mom and dad believe that it was Gods plan that their son murder George Zimmerman and continue to be a thief and thug. Maybe God knew what Trayvon was going to do in the future if he continued on the road he was traveling.
Report Post »boxerjumprebellion
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:38amAll glory to God, because he alone is worthy of our praise. We should all continue to pray for the Martin and Zimmerman families. It’s very understandable that Mrs. Fulton is questioning God in all this. But since when have our finite human minds been able to know and completely understand everything God does? Saul of Tarsus MURDERED christians, and enjoyed it , felt he was doing God’s will. Then God reveals himself to Saul, renames him Paul, then sends him into the world to do amazing works for the God Who Saves. God is sovereign, bottom line. And no, I don’t think George Zimmerman will be embarking on any Paul-like mission. God works in mysterious ways.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:41am“Maybe God knew what Trayvon was going to do in the future if he continued on the road he was traveling.”
and maybe God knew that George Zimmerman needed to be locked up for life so he didn’t become a serial killer. we could play this game all day.
another more realistic possibility – God has nothing to do with it, since He isn’t real and all.
Report Post »YoungConservativesRule
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:18pm@PhillyAtheist That conclusion was completely non sequitur. It didn’t even follow the same pattern as the previous posts. You are an amateur troll.
Report Post »Nevermind
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:16amHKS
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:02am
I still have not heard the question posed, “Why was Martin in this neighborhood to start with?” No one is asking that question.
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His father was at his girlfriends ( who lives in the neighborhood) house wiht Trayvon watching the NBA all star game. He left at halftime to get an ice t and skittle from 7-11 and got killed walking home with those items. The question has been asked and answered several times.
Zimmerman is an idiot and the interview hurt him more than helped. Saying he didnt feel threatened sure doesnt help his self defense claim.
All the talk of Trayvon being a “thug” needs to stop. He was a child that got killed whiel walking home wiht snacks. You can bring up an empty pot bag but it has no bearing on the events of that evening . What does have bearing is who followed who, who got out of the car to confront someone and that is really all.
Besides, you cant shoot someoneone becasue they busted your nose. Self defense sounds good but using lethal force you need to show your life was in danger. A busted nose wont end your life nor will a cut on the back of your head ( with no head trauma) . Zimmerman is a coward and a sissy , got beat up and used a gun to make up for his shortcomings. Getting beat up by a 17 year old shows how much of a sissy he is and the need for a gun
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:25amHey dumba55 a 6′ 3” man has you down on the ground slamming your head against the concrete stating “your going to die tonight”……isn’t a just broken nose.
Report Post »Switch roles and Zimmerman was on trayvon slamming his head when Trayvon shot him and I bet you we don’t hear a word from your racist a55.
GET BEND
Mapache
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:26amThe standard for use of lethal force is NOT that your life is threatened with death. You may use lethal force to protect against “serious and imminent” threat to life. How many times does Trayvon get to smack Zimmerman’s head against the sidewalk? At what point does Zimmerman get to believe the next smack down will crack his skull?
Report Post »Trayvon initiated the PHYSICAL contact and would seem to have been the aggressor that precipitated the eventual shooting of Martin.
Treyvons parents know they need to be prepared as this thing goes to trial, they may learn some things about their son which they might wish was not made public.
THX-1138
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:26amTrayvon was a thug. He attacked a man who had not threatened him. That’s what got him killed.
In America we don’t tell our citizens that they are obligated to be victims and the fact that you think that way says far more about you than either Trayvon or Zimmerman.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:27amYou are so blind. I have never met a “child” that is six ft tall and sells weed. Zimmerman took him at his word and defended himself.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:28am@Nevermind
Report Post »Well now, let’s be honest here. Martin was a 6′2″ strapping young man who was a lot bigger than Zimmerman. When someone says “You’re gonna die tonight” while banging your head against the pavement and scrambling to grab your gun, you don’t take the time to ask them their age.
yathink
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:31amWell you got one thing right. If you come into my neighborhood lurking around and I’m checking you out, and we get within arms reach of each other, and you punch me in the face. DRT it means Dead Right There! It’s my neighborhood dumba$$!
Report Post »Listen_then_think
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:32amA child? Please. I don’t know all the facts, that is for a jury to decide. Don’t follow the stupid blacks who have already condemed and executed zimmerman before the trial. Don’t forget you idiots were wrong about O.J. too. Just because you are black does not make you innocent or infalliable.
Report Post »WillG
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:43amNevermind,You are a Moron,a Dyslexic one at that.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:00amYou’ve got to be one idiotic person. I’m stunned with some of the stupidity on this site but you are encinom dumb. You are using hindsight, which is always 20/20 fool. Life doesn’t work like that shite-for-brains.
Report Post »RajCaj
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:58pm@Nevermind
I think most have already cleared up your mischaracterization of the “young child” Treyvon.
Just to clear up the “didn’t feel threatened” thing…
Zimmerman said he didn’t feel threatened when Zimmerman was on the phone talking to the police (at the point when Zimmerman realized that Treyvon saw him and was mouthing off and making gestures). i wouldn’t feel threatened either if I had the police on the phone.
AFTER he hung up the phone with the police, and Treyvon caught up with Zimmerman and punched him in the nose…I think he probably felt threatened. After Treyvon had him straddled MMA style, while pounding his head on the cement….I think he probably felt threatened. After Treyvon told him you’re going to die, and reached for his gun….I think he probably felt threatened.
Maybe watch the whole interview instead of watching snippits of it on MSNBC or Huffpost.
Report Post »awakeningiscoming
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:47pmFirst of all, Trayvon reached for his gun. Second of all, the autopsy came back and he had marijuana in his system. Zimmerman could tell he was on drugs just by looking at him from the car at first glance. He said so to the dispatcher. He has been trained to spot that. Not only from his training, but also because he works with troubled kids. LIKE TRAYVON. He doesn’t go around shooting the black kids with drug addictions that he mentors. He wasn’t looking for a fight.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:16amAll this talk is just ground work for the inevitable civil suit ..
And the ‘Travon Bill’… that I’m sure ….Will be introduced ..
When and if Obama gets re-elected .
The NAACP….Al Sharpton.. The Black Panthers and everyone else
Report Post »jumping on this band wagon.. Couldn’t have been given a better set of parents ,
even if they would have hand picked them.
Mil-Dot
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:56amThey will never get a dime. Not a dime.
Report Post »ferggie
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:14amTrayvon was staying with his dad for ten days because he was suspended fron school. What a standup guy.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:32amThis is a classic case showing how the Left Lap Dog Media controls the message. The kid’s life still “ hidden” from view ( old photos, school suspension , parents separated / divorced ? , financial situation, The NBPP / Al Sharpton involvement ) but the smears against Zimmerman flew Fast and Furious in the media daily. This case is living proof that the Democrats DID already learn from the anarchists and the Communists . They learned their tactics from old Lefty Saul Alinsky who dedicated RULES FOR RADICALS to Lucifer ! Duh. WAKE UP , America .
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:12amDidnt trashvons daddy have a girlfriend he was “visiting”,where is she in all this? Let Zimmerman go, and to hell with trashvons familly…..
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:12amIt would seem to me Zimmerman is worshipping the only God, The Forgiving One. Trayvon’s parents are worshipping the money that Sharpton is helping them collect on their dead son. These parents don’t want to admit they failed their son and that they are cashing in on his death, so they can’t meet with Zimmerman. Zimmerman is right about not questioning God’s plan bc whether he goes free in the courts he will still be a free man to express his faith as he pleases. Only he and God knows his thoughts and we can only speculate but commonsense tells most of America that he did what he had to do.
Report Post »I guess if Sharpton and their lawyer hadn’t jumped down her throat Sybrina Fulton would still think her son attacked Zimmerman on an accident.
yathink
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:21amMy friends and I coined a saying back in the day when we saw out of control piers. (Some peoples parents) Still and always will apply.
Report Post »shagstar
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:09amjustice for zimmerman!!
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:07amYou trained your child to be a thug.
What did you expect?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:16amWonder who Trayvon hung around with ? Wonder what his teachers had to say. ( Never mind. His school records are probably hidden from view….like another guy… )
Report Post »cannon12pdr
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:07amSeems like they are proud they produced a dope dealing thief and hood from the hood.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:03amThey produced him, trained him and sent him out to prey on innocent hard working people-you know, like bus drivers, neighborhood watchmen etc. They did this knowing that someday, he will get plugged and then they would have an opportunity to get rich. What a plan.
Report Post »cdageno
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:06amIf Martin would have walked away instead of attacking Zimmerman he would still be alive. People carring legal guns make for a more polite society.
Report Post »yathink
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:05amSorry for your loss Momma but your baby wasn’t innocent in this. George will go free and there is nothing that can be done about that. When you are fighting for your life you have the right to take another. By God the right to life is absolute and if attacked you have the right to life. If all the aborted babies rose from the dead there would be hell to pay.
Report Post »v15
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:28amInteresting point. I would love to know if Trayvon’s mother has ever had any abortions in her lifetime.
Report Post »JD0341
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:59amYeah, his name was Taryvon.
Report Post »ilovetheusa1
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:04amZimmy didn’t “murder” your son. your son was a thug that just got what his future was going to give him.
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:02amNothing will be enough for these two people. Their hearts are set on revenge.
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:08amSorry…Don’t really have time …Got a full plate…
Well if its good enough for the one he looked like..
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:02amI still have not heard the question posed, “Why was Martin in this neighborhood to start with?” No one is asking that question.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:08amAccording to some reports, he was staying with a family member.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:18amNo one asks because it doesn’t matter. In a free society you don’t have to provide authorities a reason for your movements. It’s called Liberty. We know what Trayvon was doing, casing houses for a burglery, but proving it is another matter. He had every right, unless he was tresspassing, to be there.
What he didn’t have a right to do was swing at Zimmerman. And he paid the price.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:20amHe was staying at his father condo.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:02amZimmerman’s God is probably the one that gave him the strength to fight off the attacker that vowed to take his life. These parents gave us nothing but a thug wannabe, dope smokin criminal. Nice job mom and dad!!
Report Post »JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:00amI sense a “flat screen TV for all day” is coming soon to a city near you
Report Post »dawgsoverrebs
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:00amSo much good can come out of something bad. Go get this video of a friend of mine who is a radio host for AFR who also lost a son. http://www.flameon.net/
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:59amZimmerman exposed himself as a liar on Hannity’s show. Did Sean bring up the money laundering by Geo and his wife?
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:10amMoney laundering?
Clueless.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:12amBlah..blah..blah… What else, besides the old photos , do the Democrats want you to parrot ??
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:14am@steelhead aka enciloon.
Report Post »Once again idiot, post links, quotes, facts etc…or shut the F up, moron…..
barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:18amBANNED: Agree. The Democrats running their usual Character Assassination Squad routine. Target. Isolate. Destroy. Sound familiar ? ( Obama Campaign Committee too ! )
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:23amIt’s called self preservation. When you have hate groups putting a bounties on your head and your elected officials do nothing about it, you wonder who’s on your side and who can you trust. I would be as vague as possible as well.
Report Post »getourcountryback
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:29amYou have the wrong handle; it should be ********.
Report Post »getourcountryback
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:03pmCensored word is: d-ick head
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:59amApparently this Trial By Media is still not over. Probably law suits to follow and money to be made. And, of course, “ social justice ” to be gained…..
Report Post »ferggie
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:57amI am not sure who is right but let’s please stop this BS about how wonderful Trayvon was and showing the pictures of him at 15. Why not show the current pictures with the gold teeth, gang signs and six foot tall. Add in the mug shots for truer realization of who he is. Trayvon was a POS drug dealer that was suspended from school at the time of the incident. Let the court determine the truth!
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:40amThe fact that they do NOT show his recent pics shows that they already know what kind of person he was. If they published them, then the rest of the public would also know (or assume) and the case would be dropped. That’s NOT what they want.
A lot of his pics that you find on the web are pics of him flipping off the camera. That speaks volumes to me…
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