TSA: Religion Offers No Break in Airport Screening
- Posted on November 16, 2010 at 9:25pm by
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(AP/TheBlaze) — The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won’t get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs.
TSA chief John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday that passengers who refuse to go through a whole-body scanner machine and get a pat-down will not be allowed on planes, even if they turned down the in-depth screening for religious reasons.
Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates rights including freedom of religion. The issue is getting new attention after a man named John Tyner posted an item online saying he was thrown out of the San Diego airport for rejecting a full-body scan and pat-down groin check and insisting he go through a metal detector instead.
“The [body image scanning] technology is sent to the airports without the ability to save, transmit or print the images,” said Greg Soule, TSA spokesman, in an interview with CBSNews.com. “At airports, the images are examined by a security officer in a remote location, and, once the image is cleared, they’re deleted.”
But air travelers were concerned Tuesday as at least 100 of the near-naked images surfaced on the internet and thousands more saved by U.S. Marshals operating a full-body scan operation at an Orland, Fla., airport.
About 300 of the controversial scanners are in use at 60 American airports and the TSA plans to deploy approximately 500 units by the end of the year.
“It’s all about security,” Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says. “It’s all about everybody recognizing their role.”
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Comments (135)
HEARDENOUGHCRAP
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:40pmMaybe we’re going about this the wrong way. Who stands to lose if we don’t fly? They have more clout than we do.
Report Post »American_Woman
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 1:43amIf we don‘t fly and we bring down the airline industry that’s not good either. Airlines hands are tied too, right?
Report Post »American_Woman
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:38pmI’d rather be sniffed by a trained dog than touched by a stranger. Where are the dogs?
Report Post »LasVegas Lady
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 2:24pmI agree
Report Post »WaterH2O
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 5:12pmthe muslim consider dogs are dirty. so it won’t work for CAIR either.
Report Post »New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:36pmA Great Speech by TSA. Great speeches is why we have Obama and Company. I’m NOT Convinced.
Report Post »peezee
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:34pmMuslims will prevail as long as western fools have power. You know and I know the exception will be made. The world is upside down. Let’s flip it back over shall we?
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:17pmAnd what exactly is my ‘role’, Janet? That of guinea pig for your machines or do you simply mean ‘sheep’ to your stupid arse ideas? Not enough balls to say ‘know your place, serf?’ to the American public?
You don’t like our reaction? TOO BAD. Last I checked, the fourth amendment still applies, and even if it didn’t THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES.
We’re going to badmouth your stuff until something changes. Get a thicker skin because the b****ing has just begun.
Report Post »ViewPointtt
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:11pmInvestigating Journalist Daniel Estulin reported that the Elite are highly concerned about diminishing fuel resources… which is why they are primarily focused on population reduction… so that there are fewer of us to consume their precious oil/gas reserves… they want it all for themselves. This is also why the price of gas goes up during the summer, holidays… risky weather and high gas prices make consumers reluctant to travel. So, if travelers find it just too offensive to fly, or too detrimental to their health (radiation), that suits them perfectly… their plan appears to be working just right.
Report Post »MidAmerican
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:03pmFreedom, rights, and political correctness. Pick two. (and choose wisely)
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:51pmThe ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) and CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) are both fighting this intrusive scanning technology. I’m glad those two groups are on our side fighting against this threat to American Freedom! How can the Government pretend this has anything to do with boarding an airplane with plastic explosives? Way to go ACLU and CAIR!!!
Report Post »peezee
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:36pmThey are not fighting for MY freedom! Only the freedom of those who wish me dead. Speak for yourself fool.
Report Post »bigmike63
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 2:43pmThe CAIR protest is only for the muslims. The don’t care about you or I, only the Mussies
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:51pmAnd the role of the people is to SUBMIT!
“FIND OUT JUST WHAT THE PEOPLE WILL SUBMIT TO AND YOU HAVE FOUND OUT THE EXACT AMOUNT OF INJUSTICE AND WRONG WHICH WILL BE IMPOSED UPON THEM; AND THESE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THEY ARE RESISTED WITH EITHER WORDS OR BLOWS, OR WITH BOTH. THE LIMITS OF TYRANTS ARE PRESCRIBED BY THE ENDURANCE OF THOSE WHOM THEY OPPRESS.” — FREDERICK DOUGLASS, AUG. 4, 1857
Report Post »HillCountryPatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:48pmI have to fly to Seattle next week. By then they should have the exceptions in place. I better dust off my burka.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:55pmgoing to the land-o-liberals, eh? Hopefully offical business that involves arresting them by the hundreds and thousands. There are pockets of conservitivism in King County, I know cause I live here.
Report Post »HillCountryPatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:00pmPurely pleasure on this trip. Climbing to the top of Mt Rainier so I can stand at the summit and piss on all the Patty Murray supporters.
Report Post »Badler
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:43pmThat is pretty intelligent. Of course, the opposite would have been so utterly stupid and anti-American that it just couldn’t be done after the recent election.
Report Post »TheGoverness
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:36pmObama allows waivers from ObamaCare for the unions. Reward your friends and punish your enemies. Waivers for “religion” will come…he doesn’t dare hack off the Muslim community.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 5:49amIf waivers happen for the Muslim women AND Obama passes his Dream Act, there should be a serious revolt in the U.S. How much more are we going to take and have crammed down our throats!
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:33pmHe’s not being honest. They will NOT pull Muslims in Burkas out of line to be scanned looking nude OR being pat down. Pilots and crew members SHOULD object. That’s a LOT of scans for them. I wouldn’t do it either. Metal detectors and sniffing dogs should suffice. They have gone too far.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:31pmI’m sure we can trust the TSA to be fair & honest…. wait… did someone say that there were 100 deleted images on the internet? Imagine that. Can we please just make this simple & profile? Can we please ask Israel for advice & follow it?
Report Post »jollylama
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:28pmmodel israel.. check out how they handle their airport security!
Report Post »CO-CONSERV
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 2:19amI agree. I have traveled to Israel twice, once was Dec of 2001 and neither time was I full body scanned or groped. I have never felt safer on a plane than I did there. They take security very seriously over there but the biggest part of their security is highly trained personnel. I was bumped from a flight back to the states and was asked by five different security officers for my passport. This was done because I was standing by the ticketing counter waiting to know for sure if I was bumped. They were not rude or antagonistic. They were very thorough but they actually observe travelers and look for signs of a person that might have a problem. Their system is based on competence and not throwing money at it. It would be nice if our government actually learned from others experiences before implementing a policy.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 10:40amI remember back in the days the American way of life was based on competence, Obama would never have gotten elected if that were still true. Israel has the right idea.
Report Post »GodsDotr
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:27pmJanet Napolitano should allow her image to be posted on the internet if she thinks it’s so great! Of course, that is an image I would not want to see.
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:24pmAnd the people’s role is to SUBMIT! A suspected terrorist was caught with explosive materials concealed in his anal cavity recently — CAVITY SEARCHES forthcoming, stay tuned!
“FIND OUT JUST WHAT THE PEOPLE WILL SUBMIT TO AND YOU HAVE FOUND OUT THE EXACT AMOUNT OF INJUSTICE AND WRONG WHICH WILL BE IMPOSED UPON THEM; AND THESE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THEY ARE RESISTED WITH EITHER WORDS OR BLOWS, OR WITH BOTH. THE LIMITS OF TYRANTS ARE PRESCRIBED BY THE ENDURANCE OF THOSE WHOM THEY OPPRESS.” — FREDERICK DOUGLASS, AUG. 4, 1857
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 5:18amAgreed 100%. If we don’t stand up we will be bending over with a TSA flashlight being shined up our backsides.
TSA cavity searches will be coming soon. NO DOUBT! Stand up Patriots!!!
Report Post »TENJAX
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:22pmThey don’t give a break to Airline Pilots, who as I have told them before, I can do more damage in my seat naked, then with anything you can take away from me.
Report Post »This whole thing is absurd, there should not be exceptions made, it should go away completely. Start looking for terrorists and stop searching for objects.
HouseNegro
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:20pmWe need to put our cell phone cameras to good use. Film every Muslim male and anything in a burka going thru securtiy. Along with Spook Looking Dudes. Is that profiling? Make the TSA search them everyone.
Report Post »12thArticle
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:16pmWhat would the Libs and the ACLU have done if this were initiated under the Bush administration?
Report Post »bree20
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:14pmDoes anybody think that the TSA deletes these files? You know I had this thought – let’s say that someone gets thru with “something” don’t you think that the TSA has the ability to go back and look at all the people to see what they missed?
Report Post »MJ1025
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:23pmGood point.
Report Post »Leslie_Benedict
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:45pmExactly. How else did over 100 images – supposedly deleted – get leaked on the ‘net??
Report Post »HillCountryPatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:46pmOf course the pictures will be saved in the event of prosecution: It’s called a chain of evidence.
Report Post »whitaker
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:46pmThey probily get sent to Fusion Centers for cataloging and storing.
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:19pmOf course they save them for that. Why else would the machine be manufactured to government specs with that capability in the first place?
They’re really just so full of it.
Report Post »heferwiz57
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 1:46amOf course. Why would they not be able go back and look at potential evidence in a case. We are not all idiots out here.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 7:26amDo you know that the pic the TSA puts out is the ‘negative’? Just turn a switch and a ‘positive’ read of the image emerges. Who‘s to say the pervs at the TSA aren’t doing that so they can get the ‘real’ vie of those who pass through the machines.
And (from the article) “did you know that the nation’s airports are not required to have Transportation Security Administration screeners checking passengers at security checkpoints? The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program in favor of private screeners after a two-year period. Now, with the TSA engulfed in controversy and hated by millions of weary and sometimes humiliated travelers, Rep. John Mica, the Republican who will soon be chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, is reminding airports that they have a choice.”
You can read the rest here:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html#ixzz15XfB1lOu
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 8:48amQuite so. That’s why the machines have an SD card slot. Thus, when they say “the machines retain no images” they’re correct, because the images are retained in an SD card that they take out later.
This is a group of snakes that can only live by lies. Always look for the truth as being the opposite of whatever they say, even if they tell you that the sky is blue.
As somebody mentioned yesterday, of course they save images. They would need it as evidence to press charges later in court if you DID have a crotch bomb, right?
Report Post »Promotefreedom
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:40amAn insider said that ALL the naked images are stored on federal computers.
Report Post »I would bet that the Federal Fusion Centers are combining the photos with all your other personal info.
HillCountryPatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:13pmHow long do you think it will be before they make “Exceptions” … anyone want to bet on it?
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:23pmOf course there will be some exceptions for covered up muslims , cause after all I never heard of a muslim terrorist .
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:30pmAs we all know, Liberals live by POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, never REALITY! Napolitano is an embarrassment, a complete and utter INCOMPETENT! But let’s face it, she was the perfect politically correct person for the job just like the boss…….
Report Post »booger71
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:13pm“It’s all about everybody recognizing their role.”
As sheep in a 500mph missle
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:13pmThey will CAVE on this, without question! Oh yes, the TSA will put on a good show, but in the end will capitulate to MUSLIM DEMANDS for “soft-searches” of their women…….ABSOLUTELY!
HillCountryPatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:15pmI couldn’t see your post before I wrote mine ,,, you and I are on the same wavelength. They’ll cave… just a matter of time. Tomorrow, CAIR will be all over this.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:51pmor, like they do now, the TSA just won’t EVER single out a muslim “looking” person to be “screened”. This way they can avoid both the “profileing” and “religeous intollerance” labels, mark my words.
Report Post »after all evryone knows that our “part” is to blindly comply or be “fined” by an agency that has “zero” police authority.
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 12:05amAbsolutely they will cave into the demands of the muslum group. Mr Obama and his muslum outreach junk will more than see to that; after all he wants the ‘event’ triggering chaos to happen from one or more directions to clamp down all the tighter upon us folks.
Him and Soros make one fatal miscalculation always though; the harder you try to squeeze some item, especially and ideal like freedom, the more liquid it becomes and the harder to stop.
Report Post »DianaGL
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 1:03amMy husband says it will be up to us, “the people” to REFUSE to board the plane if there is but ONE muslim garb wearing woman or male in the crowd. In other words, NOBODY board the plane if they give these people a pass! That is absolutely ridiculous, bit I too believe they’ll give them a pass and THEY are more probable to be a threat! This is backwards! We need to hire Israeli experts, and design and incorporate their same system throughout our entire airport system. PROFILING, it’s the only way to go.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 8:45am@DianaGL
I may be wrong, but weren’t all of the airplane hijackers wearing normal clothing and not religious garb?
Report Post »M-O-O-N Spells Moon
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 6:20pmAnd then perhaps the new fashion trend will be burqas for everyone? Hmm… Who would possibly want us to do that?
Report Post »Gita
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:11pmThis is another nudge people! Next they will use the xray vans through your neighborhoods looking for terrorists. It’s time to let our reps know that we will not sit down on this one, our very personal freedoms are at stake!
Report Post »cubber
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:01pmThe government is big and powerful. BUT not as big or powerful as all of us together. BE PREPARED.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 12:02amNudge, nudge, nudge…until the people react and then Obama goes Bang!!!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 12:11amTheir just progressing you towards that more desirable control. You’ll get use to it shortly and then they can check you out in your bedroom next. You know for the greater good. You must be safe, top priority.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 5:13amCome on…Those TSA pedophiles dont want to touch a nuns junk, they want little kids junk…
I hope I dont have to fly soon becuse i am going to be arrested I am sure becuse a TSA agent wont touch my junk without a scuffle…
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 6:21amWait until CAIR has a “talk” with them.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 7:21amnudge nudge and guess who has stock in the porn scanners?… that’s right! Spooky Dude!!
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 7:35amYeah, I smell a rat here. “Big Brother” is doing it’s damndest to know every move “we the people” make, is George Orwell lurking somewhere???
Report Post »Thirteenth Paladin
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 8:12amSo what do you think would happen if we chose to drop trou at the initial checkpoint? I’m already without my belt and shoes … and they are going to undress me with an xray or feel me up in public anyway. What would they do to me if I simply decided to save them some time in the whole process?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 8:25am**”Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates rights including freedom of religion.”**
And freedom from warantless search and seizure. And it also violates the 10th Amendment (no powers are delegated to the FedGov to force us to give up our rights in order to conduct business with another peaceful private entity).
Report Post »Fletch
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 9:18amMichael Cherdoff (sp) … the NJ Federal Prosecutor who became the head of one of these airport alphabet watchdog agencies is now heavily involved in the company which produces these expensive scanners
think that has any influence in the government decision to purchase?
Report Post »texans2
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 1:55pmThe shadow government wants the uproar over this intrusive screening of AMERICAN CITIZEN PATRIOTS so they then have an excuse to loosen up AP screening to let the terrorist in. Let’s all buy oneway tickets to anywhere and refuse the peekaboo booth and the pat downs of our junk. We’ll get our ticket costs refunded and hasten the day this BS is shutdown. When planes start falling out of the sky from terrorist acts, perhaps then We The People will wake up and take our country back from the crash & burn cabal in the Whitehouse.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 2:57pmHere is the answer: Liberals like to be groped and conservatives don’t but are OK with profiling. How about TSA grope all liberals and profile all conservatives…problem solved.
Report Post »Fletch
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 3:29pmThe former Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, represents Rapiscan, the company which is selling these scanners to his former department.
Shaman091101
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 5:55pmGita,
Report Post »I agree this is a nudge, we need to give a nudge ourselves. DO NOT FLY unless you have to for business or family emergency. As Thomas Jefferson said” He how gives up freedom, for security deserves neither.” I agree, it tiss time for common sense and people paying attention to their surroundings.
KITA
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 10:43am@ Thirteenth Paladin
Report Post »That’s funny. What would they do ? Indecent exposure ? You could say- Look, I was only trying to be compliant. What if everyone started striping before they went thru the scanner. Where’s the exobitionist at. Do you think it would make the news? Come in your rain coats and flip flops to the airport. LOL.