Two Grandmothers Among the First to Legally Wed as Gay Marriage Begins at Midnight in NY
- Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:24am by
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NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y. (AP) — They are mothers and grandmothers, and now they are trailblazers.

Cheryle Rudd, right, wipes away a tear from Kitty Lambert, after a spiritual ceremony before being married in Niagara Falls, N.Y., Saturday, July 23, 2011. (AP Photo/David Duprey)
Kitty Lambert, 54, and Cheryle Rudd, 53, both of Buffalo, made it a point to be among the first same-sex couples to wed in New York state.
About 150 people gathered at a low-key reception before their ceremony at a park at Niagara Falls where guests ate cupcakes and hors d’oeuvres.
Lambert acted as a master of ceremonies, standing on a stool and thanking people for attending and for supporting the state’s legislation.
Lambert, an art gallery manager at El Museo, grew up in Arizona and co-founded OUTspoken for Marriage with her partner in 2004 to pursue the right to legally marry. The grassroots group became OUTspoken for Equality in 2008.
First gay mariage in NYS: wivb.com
Lambert and Rudd, who works at a pasta factory, have been together 12 years. They met while they were living in Arizona after divorcing. The women, who have five children and 12 grandchildren between them, have had several other commitment ceremonies while hoping their state would someday recognize their union.
“We’re finally getting the same rights as everyone else,” Rudd said while planning a ceremony in Niagara Falls at midnight, the moment the law took effect. “Nobody can take that away from us anymore.”
The early Sunday marriages mark a pivotal moment in the national drive for recognition.
New York is the sixth state to allow same-sex marriage. Its historic vote to legalize it last month was viewed by advocates and opponents as a watershed that would galvanize both sides.
In Hudson, about 30 miles south of the capital, Albany, Linda Mussman, 64, and Claudia Bruce, 65, legally married after 35 years together.
The women devoted to alternative and avant-garde art met in New York City in 1976 and later moved about 100 miles upriver to Hudson, where they bought an old brick building and dubbed it Time & Space Limited, a theater and arts center they co-direct.
That’s where they were wed just past midnight Saturday in the arts center with about 200 friends and family members.
“It’s a big exciting event,” Mussman said.
They could have married in neighboring Massachusetts, Connecticut or Vermont but waited for New York to legalize gay marriage. Though Mussman was raised in the Midwest, she was drawn to New York City’s art scene.
“My whole life has been to be a New Yorker,” she said.
Mussman said the couple “held out” to get married in New York. She put the state‘s decision to legalize gay marriage up with women’s suffrage and other major civil rights milestones.
In a wedding announcement on the TSL website, the pair said: “The ceremony will be conducted promptly at midnight. Following, there will be a midnight reception with music and dancing, which will last no later than 2 a.m. as the brides need their beauty sleep.”

Dale Getto, left, and Barb Laven both of Albany, N.Y., celebrate their marriage after Albany Mayor Gerald D. Jennings D-Albany, performed the city’s first legal same-sex marriage ceremony at City Hall at 12:01 a.m. in Albany, N.Y., Sunday, July 24, 2011. (AP Photo/Hans Pennink)
And in Albany, Mayor Jerry Jennings said he’d marry a handful of couples who wanted to be among the first.
Barb Laven and Dale Getto said they do at 12:01 sharp in Albany’s City Hall with 10 friends and family members watching. Together for 14 years, the couple wore “I (Heart) NY” pins, each with a rainbow flag stuck in the middle of the heart symbol.
Jennings performed the ceremony, following through on a promise he made to the couple three years ago. Laven, 53, said the mayor, a Democrat, was on the “correct side” of the gay marriage debate.
“Tonight, we redefined our love and commitment to each other in a way that we were never able to do before: Through marriage. Forever,” said Laven, who works for the state attorney general’s office. “And it feels wonderful.”
Getto, who’s also 53, is a school administrator in Albany.



















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Juniemoon
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:04amThis is not natural, it looks disgusting because it is.
Report Post »dietrdeb
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:29amLowest Common Denominator.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:34amWhere is the ACLU, I’m offended.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:37amOne more reason not to EVER visit NY. I have always wanted to see the statue of liberty in person, but now I never will.
Report Post »Edct
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:48amDisgusting immoral perverts….unfortunately God will judge this nation like Sodom and Ghmorrah because he hates this sin so everyone who allows it to happen will be responsible.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:53amHelp me out here…they are both grandmothers?…so were they straight and then went gay…or artificially insiminated in order to have children then grandchildren…did society surpress them so much during their child baring years that they had children and then when everyone was “coming out of the closet”, they were able to be gay openly…this is the biggest question I have about homosexuality…either your born this way…or your not…Some will jump all over this…call me niave, bigotted or whatever…One thing I do agree with…looking at two “grandmothers” kissing on their “wedding” day is kind of gross!
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:56amCreepy
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:03amNow getting married in New York has not value, no purpose.
Sorry NY little girls, your dream of a wedding is over. Without meaning there is no reason for anyone to even ask you. to marry
Report Post »Just shack up, like they do in all countries where gay marriage has been “approved”
one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:08amScrew it let ‘em marry. No man in his right mind would ever marry those butches anyway…
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:20amFour religious ceremonies?
Report Post »What religions would sanction this?
Where are the grandchildren and family of this “happy couple”? Can you imagine their horror of trying to explain to their friends that ‘grandma’ did this in such a in-your-face display of perverted wickedness?
101
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:21amButch do you take Butch to be gay until death sends you to hell? Then with the purely sick intent that the state of NY infested in me, I pronounce you dykes…you may lick the ****!
This has got to be the most pathetic & disgusting thing ever, it’s just wrong!
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:42amFrom theirs looks I can see why they turned que*r.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:05amNow they can finally start that family that had planned……and look on the bright side…..Atleast they aren’t living in sin any longer.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:06amwouldn’t want any puppies out of this litter….no matter how much you paid me….
Report Post »Berealalready
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:12amI would think someone in here would represent the libertarian view point. I consider myself a conservative libertarian. Gay marriage to me seems like a re-definition of a word. It makes me uncomfortable, but to be intellectually honest, I have to grunt and put up with it. In a world where I were king I would allow for a civil union that grants equivalent rights. I have also thought, perhaps all recognition of marriage should be religious and not civil. It ain‘t the gooberment’s business who chooses to associate with whom. It’s between the two people and God. If God likes it, or don’t like it, they will sure enough find out eventually.
Let’s say Social Security allowed you to name a beneficiary to your benefits the way ANY private insurance annuity would. Then divorced heteros like me would comforted knowing that our children would get the proceeds of my decades of payments upon my demise. By allowing us to name our beneficiaries the recognition of a religious decree is removed from civil authority. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in God and would like to see SS abolished, but I am just trying to illustrate that from my Libertarian view point, this is just another thing where government over-reach screws things up.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:19amJust gross.
Report Post »benm81
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:25amdisgusting!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:00pmSickening disgusting!! No amount of propaganda can ever make me accept this garbage! The thought of it almost makes me throw up!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:11pmBrilliant in its simplicity …
A. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.
Damn – I love it when a plan comes together
RN MOM
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:26pmI guess it’s not just my stomach that turns when I see these public displays of affection by gay people. Like a snake eating it’s own tail; Yes, it can be done, but is it prudent?
Report Post »six6six
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:40pmWell, I can‘t say I’m surprised about the comments here. Just a bunch of small minded zealots who think everyone should think like they do. Why do so many people here hate something that has no impact on them?
RCScrolls
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:48pmThis is an oxymoron, two grandmothers yesh right.
Report Post »How about two older women that have a disfunction with their ability to fit in with society as proper citizens, and have a disturbing amount of disfunctionial sexual deviant behavior.
Old Truckers
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:03pmsix6six,
Sin and its consequences have an effect on everyone, not just the sinner.
Report Post »If you do not understand that, then you are the one with the simple mind.
MCGIRV
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:43pmGross!
Report Post »ScottyK7
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:48pm@mikem1969 – technically, the Statue of Liberty sits on Liberty Island, which sits on the New Jersey side. Just looked it up on google maps.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:14pmgodlovinmom
Maybe they are gay and it took them a long time to admit it even to themselves, because they grew up in a time and place when nobody ever talked about it except as somethimg really bad, and as far as they knew there weren’t any gay people where they lived.
Or maybe they’re bisexual. Some people are, but hardly anybody calls themselves that because people think it means they’re promiscuous, and if they are looking for a long-term relationship it’s easier to act as of they’re only attracted to the gender of the person they are with at the time.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:52pmwhat, is it the water???
Report Post »Seasoldier
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:22pmUnfortunately for these pathetic people there is a little thing called Natural Law, which human beings do not have the power to change. Natural Law is right up there with Moral Law, which they are also violating. However, now that the Socialist Culture of Death Elitists have succeeded in subverting human laws to suit their purpose, can we stop using the euphemism “gay” to refer to homosexuals and their activities? It’s a perversion of the language and leads to confusion by implying that there might be something good about homosexual activity. The Socialist Culture of Death Elitists have always used such euphemisms to give themselves cover and when we go along with them we play right into their hands. Let’s stop referring to homosexuals as “gay”, abortion as “choice” or “reproductive rights”, euthanasia as “death with dignity” or “death with compassion”, Socialist Culture of Death Elitists as “progressives”, taxes as “investment”, etc. and speak plainly about the un-Constitutional policies that people like Obama and his ilk are trying to force upon us.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:28pmPLEASE!!! Enough of this s**t
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:29pm@ 101 — “that the state of NY infested in me”
LOLOL
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:54pmThems are some sexy bltches. Maxim hot 100!
Report Post »Jeopao
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:55pmAll i see is dudes kissing each other
Report Post »pattybbb1
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:39pmI’m not going to throw rocks at anyone, but did they really have to post the pic of the two women kissing? gack
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:52pmNatural is a weird thing to even try and define. I get this feeling that the (well deserved, I am not arguing with that) feeling of superiority that humankind has makes us rather indifferent to what goes on in nature. It‘s hard to say if nature doesn’t know what is natural and humans do, or if nature knows what is natural and humans don’t.
Tea Party Patriots: Didn’t we start as rational readers of the Constitution that wanted mainly to get sane economics in play? I dare say that same-sex marriage has been constitutional for some time… even so, isn’t it about freedom? Freedom for these people to marry and freedom for the state to decided to recognize it or not? and freedom to any religion to sanction it or deny it.
I am certainly happy for them in their happiness. I would extend a congratulations.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:16pmEven though I’m not a tea party person, I do believe in freedom, doesn’t states recognize civil unions, I know they do common law, I just have a problem with them getting married…marriage was ordained by God, and I know alot of christians feel this stomps on our traditions. I‘m thinking most christians really don’t care if you’re gay, what you do is your business, quit making it mine.
Report Post »CHET…me thinks if you’re bi-sexual and know it, you’re most likely promiscuous.
Consentiondum
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:53pm@GODLUVINMOM
I do understand you sentiment. Marriage has meaning in many religions. It also has meaning to the state. Strictly from a legal point of view–not a religious one–it is inherently unjust to extend a privilege to one group of legally consenting adults and not another. To call it by another legal name is also inherently unjust and is similar to the “separate but equal” concept that did not work out so well. It should be obvious to the people, lawmakers, and courts that a same-sex marriage ceremony (that is a religious one) does not have to happen within a church that is against it. 1st amendment, I am sure we all know. That marriage is a religious matter. However, the signing of a legal contract is a civil matter, not a religious one. A church does not have to recognize it as sanctioned by GOD, but the government certainly has to recognize it as being sanctioned by the state–or get out of the business of legally recognizing marriage altogether. In which case there would still be same-sex marriage, because several religions have no issue with it.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:31amjuniemoon, yep it is disgusting. there’s no pervert like an old pervert. oops that may sound weird.
Report Post »jcknccmret
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 7:02amIsn’t it just wonderful. It’s ok to be Gay in public and grope each other. But don’t you dare smoke a cigarette or eat a Big Mac. SICKOS
One again the Left stands on their heads and tells the rest of us that we are upside down.
John
Report Post »MasterChief USN Ret
calamitykate
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:28amShame on you all. Only God shall know the hearts of man, yet how readily you rise to cast the first stones. It may be uncomfortable for your, or even gross to you, but how are we supposed to preach and show God’s love to the world when we too readily condemn our fellow man? We weren’t given the right to Judge, only God can do that. Remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from your neighbors.
At least in a world of debauchery, these people have chosen love and monogamy.
1 John 2:7-11 – “I am not really writing to tell you of any new command, brothers of mine. It is the old, original command which you had at the beginning; it is the old message which you have heard before. And yet as I give it to you again I know that it is true – in your life as it was in his. For the darkness is beginning to lift and the true light is now shining in the world. Anyone who claims to be “in the light” and hates his brother is, in fact, still in complete darkness. The man who loves his brother lives and moves in the light, and had no reason to stumble. But the man who hates his brother is shut off from the light and gropes his way in the dark without seeing where he is going. To move in the dark is to move blindfold.”
Report Post »Whirled Peas
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:35amLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:57am
What is this “god” you speak of? I’m not aware of any such entity …
Report Post »******************
Try this: Sit back, take a deep bong hit, SLOWLY exhale to retain as much smoke as possible and let the rush speed up your spine to the base of your skull and explode in a huge cascade of colors. The colors will fall like rain drops, saturating your brain cells (what little you have). Enjoy the show while it lasts, then try to get your head around this thought:
An atheist has to believe in God in order to deny that he exists. Otherwise, why would someone have to deny the existence of a non-existent entity?
Wayner
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:47amAll right, I want everyone who posted any negative or derogatory remarks about the article to immediately send in your names and addresses to the “Dept. of Justice”. You will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for hate crimes.
Report Post »dont tread
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:04amTea
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 12:37pmJunie, that is exactly what I was going to say. It looks freakish and wrong because it is.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 1:52pm.
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:51am
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Hmmmmm…..
If they are grandmothers, wouldn’t that imply that some
time in the past they weren’t lesbians?
But I thought they had no choice?
Posted July 25 but relegated to page 11 for no reason.
Report Post »Post of yesterday is top of page 1
PIL
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:03pmI feel the same way about interracial marriages (except with Chinese) and people with tattoos. SO WHAT? Freedom isn’t about what looks disgusting and looks pleasant.
Report Post »http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/
mombomb
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:53pmThese grandmother’s are a great example for their grandchildren, aren’t they? The picture of these two wrinkly old birds kissing is really disgusting!
Report Post »I_CARRY_1_TOO
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:02pm@ JUNIEMOON – I totally agree! It is disgusting and vile and its hard for me to even look at it. Matter of fact, I get off the picture asap because it makes me literally sick…
Report Post »wedforu
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:40pmWhat religion would condone? Try an open minded, intellectually honest, truly welcoming religion: Unitarian Universalist. My minister with a PhD is a gay women with a wonderful partner who’s a teacher. The narrow minded, unthinking, judgemental religious bias is amazing of many of these viewers is sad. Why should two people who love each other kissing be disgusting to any secure, loving, rational person? Don’t give me the “bible says…” hiding behind narrow interpetrations. I am ordained and marry people and look forward to the day when I can do a holy union between a gay couple. So that really threatens these people’s identity, sexuality or relationship? How shallow they must be. God doesn’t make junk. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Is being heterosexual a choice? Of course not. Would anyone choose to be a “***” “queer” “sissy”? Think about it. Think for your self. I for one will celebrate a religion and faith that is about acceptance, free exercise of reason and respect for others. That is God that is loving and just.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:01amPass the pepto [Nausea, Heartburn, Indigestion, Upset Stomach, Diarrhea].
Report Post »Makes no sense, they dont like men? One dresses and looks like a man,[mullet and tux] the other a woman. If they dont like men why do they do this? What is the point?
loriann12
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:06amYou forgot Efferdent, polygrip and medamusal.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:07amMallard ducks turn gay because they can’t find a partner.
Looking at these fine geriatric dishes, I’m thinking they can relate to the ducks.
Report Post »psst
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:00amMany people are wondering what went wrong. How have this once great country gone to the phshit?
Report Post »My friends, it’s no big mystery that this have happened.And it’s getting worse.
US (many of us)have become wanton and craven, wallowing in depravity and abomination.
US (many of us)have become slovenly and slothful.
US (many of us) have embraced pols.who tells us we do not have to earn our food by the sweat of our brows. Many of US cheers and votes for pols who takes by force (steals) the sweat from the brows of others to gives to many of us in exchange for votes.
US (many of us) tells ourselves that killing babies in the woumb is not a big deal.it’s quite normal.and many others adds their support that yes, it’s quite normal.All the while, many unscrupulous drs. who have taken Oaths to save/protect lives kills wantonly for the benefit of a declining dollar.
Yes folks. Whatever is happening to this country will only become worse as we worship man instead of God. There is no God the masses are told by many pols (now the saviour of men) and many willingly believe it as the straight road is narrow and uphill, whilst the crooked road is 5 lanes and and all downhill. it’s so easy to just coast downhlll instead of huffing and puffing w/ an uphill climb.
Yes friends. Many, too many of US enjoy the life of abomination .
US have worked extra hard to enjoy the fruits of our labours.US truly deserves going down the tubes.
Don’t mind me. I’m just one of those stupid Believer.
heavyduty
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:58amThe only special thing about being gay is that your brain damaged.
Report Post »vsraglan
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:09pmyou’re
Report Post »Erabin
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:33pmTeehee.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:37pmDude have you looked at your picture on this site? Might try that before you call somebody else brain damaged.
Report Post »twizfoshiz
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:11pmActually, gays tend to be MUCH higher up in smarts than others. As is proof by your use of grammar. Way to prove a point, though.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:56amThat will give “going to grandma’s house for Christmas” a new image. Somehow I don’t see a Hallmark movie being made about it.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:00amThey decided to “switch, rather than fight” !! Sick bastards!
Report Post »cosette
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:15amWe’re talking about Hollywood here. Don’t bet on it!
Report Post »billybe123
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:21am@rickfromillinois lol yea, give it a few more years. This country just feels ugly to say American anymore. I am so disappointed in the people of this country for letting it get this far. Including myself. God help us turn it around.!!
Report Post »fleming5
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:56am“Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them MALE and FEMALE’ and said, ‘For this reason a MAN shall leave his FATHER and MOTHER and be joined to his WIFE, and the two shall become on flesh.’” Matt. 19:4-5 Take heed America! When a country embraces homosexuality, their fall is very near. Never mind that we have been killing our babies, now our marriages will not be producing babies. God have mercy on us!
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:07amWhat “creator” are you talking about? There’s no evidence for it.
Report Post »Ross
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:14am@Liberal Atheist
We are talking about God. If you don‘t believe in God this site probably isn’t for you. Try cups.org..
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:22amWhat god – Zeus?
Report Post »marjorie faye
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:35amLiberal Atheist Critical Thinker,
Report Post »Atheism is irrational. The evidence for a super intelligent designer is unmistakable. The only ones who mistake it are those who prefer not to recognize it for their own psychological reasons. The computer-like brain of human beings is not an accident of blind evolution. The laws of physics came from somewhere. What happened before that, and before that, and before that, and why? Are you serious? Plenty of scientists believe the evidence supports Intelligent Design, but they are quiet because the ones who speak up are blackballed by their fellow professors and researchers at universities.
dietrdeb
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:36amSure there is…it is called the Bible.
Report Post »Ross
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:41amYou will find out on your own. How can you call yourself a critical thinker .
Don’t worry I will not post on your comments after this one.
Report Post »justsaying
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:42am@LA Obviously you know what God we are talking about since you call yourself an atheist. Playing stupid doesn’t become you!
Report Post »TX_45_ACP
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:42am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
The evidence is everywhere. You just have to look. But your eyes are blinded. If you look at the universe and think that it just popped up out of nowhere then you’re not as critical a thinker as you think you are. If you think that things as complex as our human bodies, capable of thoughts and storing memories, just evolved out of nowhere, and all came together out of chaos, then you’re not really thinking about it very critically. Here’s another thing you may never understand. God reveals himself to believers in many ways. Not saying he visibly appears or audibly talks to all of us, but he reverals his himself nonetheless through our prayers. This is the real evidence that we believers have and you don’t have access to. So yes, we see the evidence.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:05amLACT
What a sad, shallow and finite life you must live.
Sure, you can respond how perfect, happy you are, but you know the truth. . .sad.
In the name of Nancy Grace, Chris Matthews, and Obama, we shall pray for you.
Report Post »Under God Amen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:07amThe evidence is all around you. He who has eyes sees. He has ears hears.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:10amLiberal Atheist Thinker has no proof of God because the choices that it made, the way it lived, the sins it enjoys shut God out of it’s life so it therefore has no proof of God and because of that, bases everything upon their own horrible life. Just think how awful and untolerable and sad Liberal life must be! It is like the schools that took prayer out and don’t want God in the schools and when something very bad happens like a school shooting they exclaim, “where was God when all of this happened”! They don’t want God so how can they think reasonably to understand that because they hate him, that is the reason why there is no evidence of him in their life.
Report Post »LIberal Atheist thinker will not be an atheist in hell. People like this were ordained from before the beginning of the world to hate God just like there were others ordained to be the sons of God. It has to do with the heart.
Marriage is a blood covenant that is ordained by God so no matter how man tries to make it legal by a weak law, that does not mean that God recognizes it. I don’t care if they allow lesbians or gay to pastor churches either. God has left that institution ever since it was made up by man also. Religious institutions are no more recognized by God as gay marriage is not either.
one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:12am@L.A.C.T <<<<<<<<<<< Yes, lact you lact brains to be think critical… Jesus was a figment ,huh ? another mentally challenged liberal right here for all to see…
Report Post »pray4usa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:47amTotally agree, our country is going to be accountable for what we have let our society become. Where are all of the believers in the Lord? If we do not stand together all the enemy needs to do is divide us and surely we will fall. God created Man and Woman, we can only pray that the eyes of those blinded will be opened to God’s love and light into his healing power.
Report Post »chickenfried
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:30amDon’t engage the LACTose intolerant. It is a waste of time.
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:18pmlets call em what they really are!:
HOMOSEXUALS.
marriage is has and should always be between a man and a woman.
to reclassify marriage base on ones sexual preference of the same sex is contrary to laws of nature and of God! But all the gay rights people want to force us to accept their behaviour as normal.
I don’t see heterosexuals marching in the streets to force gays to act like us.
If they just keep it private where it should be we are fine.
Homosexuals support democrats, Democrats support Muslims ,
Report Post »Muslims kill homosexuals. ironic isn’t it!
Greenwood
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:30pm@LIBERAL_ATHEIST_FAULTY_THINKER………..The evidence is all around you
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:34pmNo evidence of God! WAAAAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That‘s the biggest laugh I’ve had all day!!!
WAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look around yourself. Look up to the sky. Look at the trees. Look at the animals.
Watch the sun rise and set. Watch the moon rise and set.
Look at the stars.
Go to frikkin medical school and learn about the amazing intricacy of the human body.
Yeah… all thrown together by some chance bang.
Idiot.
Report Post »ginsberg
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:53pmif there is a god, she created animals and humans that have homosexual urges. No god would love the hateful comments made by those on this site, which reflect the ugly nature of you so called christians.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:02pmGinsberg, aren’t you aware… we all have an ugly nature. It’s called sin.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:03pmBy the way.. it‘s God with a capital G and He’s a He,
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:23pm@JJ COOLAY – God is a man? How do you know that? That is one of the stupidest statement I have read on this site and I have read some reallly stupid one!! How do you know that God is a man?
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Consentiondum
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:59pmI do often wonder what GOD is urinating on and who GOD is copulating with, having male genitalia and all.
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:27pmThat being said I do believe in GOD. However I am going to have to say that any evidence I know of has come from personal reflection and meditation on a variety of subjects. I respectfully disagree that there is evidence by simply looking around you. The universe (or creation if you so prefer) needs GOD, but I don’t think GOD needs the universe, there is not hidden signature to uncover–that would be too easy.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 7:54am@walkwithme1966, JJ COOLAY speaks truth. Advice to you… pull your head out!
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 12:38pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker— once upon a time there was nothing Suddenly nothing exploded Now nothing is everything
Report Post »twizfoshiz
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:12pmBut “your” marriage have been producing gay babies for DECADES! There will always be enough careless straighties to keep this world populated.
Report Post »Dinkiecb
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:56amOne of the great things about America is .. if you disaprove so much of Gay/Lesbian marriages… ya don’t gotta pay attention to em…just like they aren’t payin any attention to you…they aren’t griping about your lifestyle :) …. maybe they should…. lol
Report Post »CrazyJ
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:11amyes i disagree on a religious level with gay marriage but the legalization of gay marriage is an assault on religious freedom as people who oppose it based on their beliefs will no longer be allowed to discriminate. we are being forced to accept them.
Report Post »njconserv
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:26amWhat about gay pride parades, those immoral displays of jock straps and panty men,what about gay agenda in schools, what about gays in the military , etc etc etc dont say they dont boyher us
Report Post »101
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:28amThis is not a marriage, it’s a f-up society of sick wacked out liberals.
Report Post »Godfather.1
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:30amCRAZYJ
You’re wrong. Your religion is still allowed to discriminate and so are you. You never have to accept gay marriage if you don’t want, that is discrimination. Your church does not have to recognize gay marriages and continue to discriminate. Instead, it is the state that recognizes gay marriages. You and those in your religion can continue to discriminate all you want.
Report Post »Applehead
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:03amThe Devil is laughing now! But to live in God is eternal bliss!!!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:37pmWe don’t FLAUNT our lifestyle either.
Report Post »I’ve never EVER in my life had to come out of the closet and announce… Im HETERO!!!!
JJ Coolay
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:39pmRight on, Applehead… have to keep remembering that in this messed up world.
Report Post »PIL
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:07pmI agree with you. Frankly, why is TheBlaze.com paying attention to this? Glenn Beck told Bill O‘Reilly he didn’t care about same-sex marriage.
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twizfoshiz
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:14pmCrazyJ – You shouldn’t be discriminating in the first place! At what point in the Bible did God say it’s okay for us to judge everyone?! Judging isn’t our job – it‘s God’s. And just remember – while you’re having your fun judging everyone else, God’s going to judge you for judging, too! Being a Christian does not put you on the same level as God. I wish more Christians would grasp this concept.
Report Post »Tucson Patriot
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:55amIn comment to Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker, You think you are winning what? Just look what is being taken out of the gene pool. Thats really exciting.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:08amThey can donate sperm to produce children, so it’s not really doing what you say.
FAIL.
Report Post »psst
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:39amLack said in reply to Tucson:”They can donate sperm to produce children, so it’s not really doing what you say”.
Report Post »——-
Bingo!!
One should always honour either their mother and father.Or,their 2 mothers or 2 fathers.
The Bible says to honour your parents. I guess someone must be reading the Bible and believing it.
TX_45_ACP
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:45am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Sure they can donate it, but they will not do it at the rate needed to keep the population thriving. You have to reproduce at a certain rate in order to ensure generations to come.
Report Post »GJ3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:32pmHey liberal atheist. Do you know how stupid your comment is? They can always donate sperm? Let me ask you. can a man and another man procreate? no. Can a woman and another woman procreate? No. What you are talking about still takes a man and a woman. That ensures the survivability of the human race.
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:54amsick. id rather have the country the way it was just 20 years ago. these types have gotten their way and our country has been harmed by every move they make. not just because of the ****’s but the entire moral compass of this country is fast going away. look at all the troubles we have now brought on by things like this and they way it was before. i miss my country and wish my kids would have been able to see and grow up in what i did……a much better place.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:56amYou probably wait it to be much like Leave It To Beaver right? You long for those days where you could graduate High School and get a lifetime job at the local factory with a pension?
Report Post »TX_45_ACP
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:50am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
I would rather live in the days of Leave it to Beaver than in a day where Communism and Socialism abounds in our government. My family escaped Communism to come to a free country. Now they see the same things happening all over again. Now we sit and wait for the commies to run out of other people’s money. And, what’s wrong with a lifetime job out of high school with a pension? That’s what the communist unions have promised anyway. LOL
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:09amLACT
Sounds like a charmed life to me.
You must be bitter.
Report Post »kendeer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:53amI‘m married and I guess I didn’t know that marriage was the fix for ALL my problems in life ! That what we’re suppose to believe when gays get married right ?
Report Post »Kai Wan
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:52amThose two men in the picture sure are perrty lol. If there ever was a poster for dieting, this is it!!
Report Post »Cowoak
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:51amWhat’s next for the governor of New York? The budget problems up there didn’t go away because of gay weddings. All gay marriage was used for is to dangle shiny things in front of the people to keep them from talking about the real fiscal problems of that state and the nation.
Report Post »Eric
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:48pmNew York, the state in-which I currently reside in, is a living, breathing hell-hole. I live 10-miles north of New York City, and the filth is so abundant that you feel dirty just going outside. People use the streets/sidewalks as their personal garbage cans. You hear $20-***-crap mufflers, screaming by at 200dB. You hear gangster rap music, and/or hispanic-crap music constantly blasting from $50 subwoofers, that are so distorted and cheap-sounding, you have trouble making out the words. Forget about being White, unless you live in one of uber-expensive suburbs outside of NYC; otherwise you’ll be subjected to intense racism. All the “latinos,” and blacks look at being White as a weakness. The girls are all whores; the guys treat them like nothing but semen-buckets, and the girls love to be degraded. This past school year for 12th grade, I just read that 90% of the _GRADUATES_ can’t even read or write. That’s mind-boggling; how do you graduate, without being able to read or write? The local welfare offices are so full, people are oozing out of the entrances; and they’re all young black/hispanic girls, with half-a-dozen kids each. You constantly hear about gang-murders in the ghettos. All of the aforementioned horror-points are the direct result of an ultra-liberal, left-wing political state commonly referred to as New York! Not to mention, too, that my county has the highest tax rate in the entire country> Oh yeah & our roads look like a war-zone, w/ 2ft-deep pothole cra
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:50amTo make it legal does NOT make it right! I guess MAMBLA is next to have “rights” huh? BS!
Report Post »Ravings of a lunatic planet
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:48amWe wouldn’t be having this type of b.s. going on if the government’s would stay out of the marriage business. This all has to do with getting benefits with a marriage license. So the Gays HAVE to be married to get anything from their partners. Same goes for heterosexual’s too. Places of worship should be the ones marrying couples not the damn governments. Just wait until they get rid of the Bush tax credits………………Marriage Penalty? Remember????? I do. Then Gay married couples will be complaining. Maybe they can get a special tax break, just for being Gay. This country is going to the dogs………….
Report Post »TacDi51
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:47amI am so tired of this stuff shoved down my throat! But have prayer or mention God in anything and it’s offending! I know it’s only going to get worse. It’s just sad to see.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:42pmThen stop peeping in windows do. Nobody is forcing you to watch anything. pervert
Report Post »hightide
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:47amDisgusting. Sodom is alive.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:45pmOh go learn your bible…Sodom and Gomorrah have zero to do with homosexuality…geesh…you fool
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:16pmAFEATHERHEAD………..
Oh go learn your bible…Sodom and Gomorrah have zero to do with homosexuality…geesh…you fool
Genesis 19: 5 And they kept calling ouy to Lot and saying to him; Where are the men who came in to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intercourse with them.
Maybe you should go learn YOUR bible if you have one
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:14pmThere is a strong argument that the true sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were less about sexual perversion and more about a complete lack of hospitality to strangers. Unfortunately the context within which the story was originally read/told is millennia past us and we have now only our more modern context within which to read and interpret it.
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 12:50pmAFeatherAdrift——Go read YOUR Bible Sodom and Gomorrah had everything to do with homosexuality.
Report Post »BrennaMan
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:41pmSodom and Gomorrah were about sodomy. As far as i recall, the bible does not denounce homosexuality. Sodomy, the sexual act, is a sin. Simply being Homosexual is NOT a sin.
Report Post »LoneredStar
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:50pmAre we really to blindly follow the word of the good book considering it was written to try and instruct a civilization (or rather a collection) of near savages to be nice to one another. The good lessons of the bible are worth keeping and upholding but a 2000 year old story about the fears of an archaic society really shouldn’t influence our ability to allow two people to love each other now should it?
Also what sodomy has to do with lesbians I’m not sure…
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:44amI just lost my appetite for breakfast.
Report Post »kendeer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:49amme too ! puke !
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:40amJust plain “UGLY”
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:39amThe religious right has lost this battle – more losses coming …
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:51amOur tolerance for things God does not approve of, will kill us.
Report Post »The freedoms of the Constitution were meant for a moral people. You’re right. More to come, and with it, consequences.
Beckatude
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:52amRead the end of the Book…we may have lost the battle but we win the war
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:56amAnd the best loss of all will be in 2012 when your atheist friend in the white house losses in a landslide.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:57amWhat is this “god” you speak of? I’m not aware of any such entity …
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:06amLactaid
Report Post »Was that you with the mullet and tux?
psst
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:13am@Becaktude.
Report Post »Lack and his ILK thinks “The Book” is a comic book.
Many of US knows that IT is real.
Lack’s Ilk thinks this is a battle, it’s only a skirmish.
In the end the Farmer will harvest the Wheat. Matthew 3:12. Can be found in the comic book section according to the NEA and marxist profs in the universities of higher learning.
njconserv
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:33amGod lets things happen he dosnt lose , you will find that out one day comical liberal thinker
Report Post »TX_45_ACP
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:18am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
It’s funny how you think you are coming here to stick up for gays and yet you continually make references to God not existing. Believe it or not, many gay people have a yearning for God and spirituality and do actually worship god, even if it’s in their own way. You fail to represent them here.
Report Post »masimo
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:06amNope the religious right has NOT lost the battle because we do not think that this world is the end all be all, we believe in a heaven and hell and would rather be in heaven with our Lord than this place. Atheists can have this world, you will be miserable and it will be your choice.
Report Post »Berealalready
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:55amMany of the so called losses you celebrate will ultimately be the destruction of a great republic that PROTECTS the rights of women, gays, ethnic and religious minorities, and bill of rights protections for everyone. This particular issue of gay marriage is actually rather minor until the federal government gets into the ring. Sure, many on the Religious Right (not myself) are upset but when the federales recognize gay marriage it then becomes a pocket book issue due to the bizarre way Social Security is administered.
A few questions for you LACT, my fine antagonistic friend…
1) Why do you trust government to make things better when three years ago you likely viewed government as the devil…err ummm uhhh…something bad, yet non-religious
2) Why do you appear to take pleasure the in distress of others? That is bad karma. Random chance may kick your a55 for that.
3) Do you understand that every govt of people that has officially NOT recognized the existence of God has been horrible on the rights and treatment of their own people? When people deem themselves supreme authority, it does not work out so well.
Final remark. The God you are mockingly asking for ID on is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You cannot see, smell, hear, taste, or touch gamma radiation yet it can still kill you. If it makes you happy to think of God as Mother Nature, whatever, but know that you are most certainly NOT the ultimate authority on anything beyond your piddly little lif
Report Post »paulusmaximus
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:09pm!st you must have not ck-ed the no reply button.I was reading you replies and it’s like a small child on a playground.You perceive yourself as wise and tolerant as you make absurd and snippy remarks to those who find Homosexuality a sin, if you were as tolerant as you perceive yourself to be you would allow them their right to their view.GOD never said you have to believe being a christian is a FREE choice. I have decided to believe because of all the arguments both pro and con the true intellectual must declare there is a creator or consider himself a fool! Psa 14:1
Report Post »Weaver
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 9:13amThe battle has yet to come………..this is just the dividing the “wheat from the tares”.
Report Post »Weaver
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 9:16amThe battle has yet to come…..this is just the dividing of the ‘wheat and the tares’.
Report Post »bigdawg
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:35amSame sex divorces will begin tomorrow…
Report Post »Cowoak
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:54amLawyers are partying right now!
Report Post »conservativeme
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:35amJust because it’s “legal” don’t make it “right” . . .
Report Post »Lux
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:42amYep you can say that again.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:31amOf course.
And just because it‘s wrong doesn’t mean it should be illegal.
Report Post »kinnick1
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:35amLegalizing gay marriage didn‘t make the picture of two granny’s sucking face any less horrifying.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:34amOld freaks
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:46pmOld bigot
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:09pmAnd a gerbil for you, my fine feathered friend.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:33amVile/filthy blasphomous behavior
Report Post »All Chirstians please pray for them.
tomdb62
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:14amWhile these two women are getting married after being committed to each other for probably several years, spouses are being cheated on, single men and woman are engaging in promiscuous hook-ups, abortions are taking place as a result of the “hooking up.“ ”traditional” married couples and unwed parents are abusing their children, or neglecting them because they are too drunk or strung out on crack or crystal meth. Could someone please explain to me why all the attention is being paid to gay marriage when all these other issues which are being mostly ignored. Taking a anti-gay marriage stance would be much more credible if the current state of traditional marriage wasn’t in shambles. It seems to me that targeting gays and blaming them for the moral decay of this country is the popular thing right now…..it makes about as much sense as a liberal left trying to blame everyone thing on George Bush. I think the main problem facing our society is our overwhelming desire to point fingers at others rather than taking a good hard look at ourselves.
Report Post »tomdb62
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:17amWow, I meant this to be a general post, not as a comment directed towards Jacobstroubles. My apologies to you.
Report Post »vsraglan
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:12pmChristians
Report Post »WAITING_FOR_THE-RAPTURE
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:03pmThe Bible tells us that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the sexual immorality. I believe that it is wrong to live a gay lifestyle, and that the way a lot of people live is displeasing to God, not just gay people. It is none of my business how people live– I don‘t need to hear about ANYBODY’s sex life. I just don’t want to be told that I need to agree with it, to say that it’s right, because I don’t believe it is. I think that people can’t help being gay, but they can decide on whether or not to live the gay life. God hates the sik, but loves the sinner, and none of us are perfect. Pray for these people, ourselves and our nation.
Report Post »twizfoshiz
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:17pmTomDB…I couldn’t agree more. I hate how everyone is blaming the decay of America on gay marriage. You know – because it would all be Pleasantville if only Tom and Jake weren’t allowed to be married. *eye roll* If you don‘t like gay marriage then don’t marry someone who has the same sexy parts as you. Simple as that. Love is love. Why does it scare so many people?! I am going to laugh when you all get to heaven and realize that you’re wrong.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:32amGross.
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