Two Lesbian High School Students Sue to Accompany Each Other to Dance
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CHAMPLIN, Minn. (AP) — Two lesbian high school students who fought for the right to walk together as part of a royalty court made their entrances Monday to the cheers of hundreds of classmates.
Sarah Lindstrom and Desiree Shelton wore matching black suits with pink ties and held hands as they entered the Snow Days Pep Fest at Champlin Park High School in Minneapolis’ northwest suburbs.
The reaction came as a relief to the couple and school administrators. The district has been stung by criticism of its policies toward homosexuality and the alleged bullying of a gay student who killed himself.
“It felt amazing,” said Shelton, adding that she was too nervous to notice dozens rise to give her a standing ovation as she walked in with Lindstrom. “I think we were too focused on getting to the stage.”
If there were any boos, they were drowned about by supporters. “I feel so much better,” Lindstrom said while surrounded by friends after the rally.
Sarah’s mother, Shannon Lindstrom, camera in hand, joined the other mothers of children in the royalty court after the rally.
“They had a lot of courage,” she said Shelton and her daughter. “Look how far we’ve come.”
Students voted onto the royalty court traditionally enter the assembly in boy-girl pairs. After Lindstrom and Shelton, both 18, were elected, school officials last week announced a change in procedure: court members would walk in individually or accompanied by a parent or favorite teacher.
School officials said they merely wanted to prevent the two from being teased. But on Friday, two human rights groups sued on their behalf.
On Saturday, in federally mediated talks, school officials relented. The two sides agreed that members of the royalty court would be escorted by anyone meaningful to them, regardless of gender or age.
“This is a new chapter for the district,” said Sam Wolfe, a lawyer with the Southern Poverty Law Center, which filed the lawsuit along with the National Center for Lesbian Rights and local assistance from the Minneapolis law firm of Faegre and Benson.
Young women in evening gowns and young men in dark suits walked through a makeshift arch and to the stage during the Monday afternoon pep rally complete with cheerleaders, dance teams and the school band. So did two young women in suits, and the crowd cheered for each one.
“They did great,” said Principal Mike George. “I’m proud of our students.”
Several of the students in the crowd didn’t understand what all the fuss over the lesbian couple.
“Some people are against it, but they don’t care if they walk down a stupid runway,” said Maggie Hesaliman, 14.
Melissa Biellefe, 16, said, “We’re a pretty respectful school. Our rule is just let people be who they are.”
Champlin Park is part of the Anoka-Hennepin school district, Minnesota’s largest, which has been in the spotlight in the past year for its handling of issues involving gay and lesbian students.
It has been in the crossfire for its policy of “neutrality” in classroom discussions of homosexuality. It was reached in 2009 as a way to balance the demands of liberal and conservative families, but neither side has been completely happy with it.
The issues flared again last year after a gay student, Justin Aaberg, killed himself. His mother has said she heard too late from Justin’s friends that he had been harassed.
Aaberg was one of six students who committed suicide in the district since the beginning of the 2009-10 school year, and advocacy groups have linked some of the other deaths to the bullying of gay students.
However, the district said last month its own investigation did not find evidence that bullying contributed to the students’ deaths.



















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Ziplock
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:59amIf there is no freedom to sin, there is no freedom to live without sin.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:03pmWell said. We do not want go empower government to tell us how we may and may not live our lives any more than we already have. Further, I thought most on the right side of the spectrum would want to get Goverment out of the business of telling people what they may and may not do with their private time.
Report Post »Respectable Lady
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 8:05pmIt is so sad to see our schools go down the way they are. Taking prayer out of schools was the worst thing they could do.No GOD all devil. Teachers sleeping with students, students sleeping with each other, babies having babies, China is number one in just about all areas of learning and we come in almost last in everything. These kids are going to make the world a brighter place. Two cities Sodom and Gomorrah. They kill themselves more and kill others as well. I am so glade I have JESUS! I am not telling anyone what to do with their lives but I know I have the best way out of this mess ever. I live in this world but I am not of this world. Keep being depress and hurting yourselves sense these life styles are so great.
Report Post »Lion420
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:54amPeople like this make me ill. I am bisexual and have no problem with what people want to do in their private lives. Here comes the BUT…These two look like they want to be boys. Do they not want to be what God made them to be? I can understand finding certain people attractive, but to overtly attempt to look like the opposite sex really bothers me. It comes across like they are rebelling against themselves…do they hate themselves?
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:12amThey don’t hate themselves, they just identify with more of a “masculine” identity and they were ingrained that way at birth! Nature is not perfect unfortunately and about 10-15% of the population is sexually attracted to their same sex.
BlazingInSC
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:23amSo Pragmatica, are they also having a gender-identity crisis? Why would two self-identified homosexual women (which would indicate they are attracted to other women) want to both dress like men? That would mean that each woman is attracted to men, and thus – not homosexual… or did I miss something in their decision to dress like the opposite sex in order to show their desires to be with people of their same sex?!? So confusing…
Report Post »Lion420
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:30amBlazingInSC: great point…thanks for making it much more coherently than I could!
Report Post »maliceforall
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:08am@BLAZINGINSC:
think of it this way: a male picks his clothing to express his identity. a female picks her clothing to attract a mate. for a female to attract a male, she wears a dress. for a female to attract a female, she wears a tux. males will wear tuxes, whether or not they are gay, because they are expressing their identity as males.
of course this is all hokem pseudo-science. but so is your attempt to impose hetero-sexual clothing decisions on ****-sexual partners.
Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 5:50pmBlazinginSC,
Why do you care who they date and how they dress?
Report Post »III Percent
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:54amGood for them. I am a Tea Party member and they were born gay. They have as much right to love and freedom as the rest of us. Grow up an get your nose out of other American’s God given emotions.
This is not about bestiality or pedophilia, so don’t change the subject. It’s not the extremes of any group, it’s about consenting adults having the same rights as you (or young gay people, not perverts having the right to fall in love).
Report Post »conservativeme
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:02amSo, if they were born gay, then pedaphiles are born pedaphiles and should thus be allowed to practice that. And killers are born killers, and should be freely allowed to kill. Where does it end? Gay is a choice. They have tendancies they foster, just as pedaphiles have tendancies they foster. Fat people have tendancies to want to way over eat. Quit trying to make them loose weight. What are you, a lardophobic? . . . get the point?
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:03amYour logic absolutely fails. God, who created us all, is very clear that homosexuality is an abomination. Now logically answer this question. “Why would God create a group of people whom He considers an abomination?” Did he just make them to damn them? I don’t believe God is that nuts, nor to I believe in a God who wants to damn anyone. These kids were not born that way. They made a choice to be that way, and the world cheers for what God considers an abomination (that’s something really, really bad in God’s eyes). The whole premise makes no sense.
Report Post »tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:10amtheres a difference between gays and murderers and pedophiles. what gays do is between consenting adults and harms no one.
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:19amConservativeMe… You are making a false equivalence between “homosexuality”, which is harmless and consensual relationship among two consenting ADULTS, and things like “pedophilia” and “murder”! These things are apples and oranges!
Pedophelia is NOT consensual and aimed at “minors” and “children” that are specifically protected by laws! Murder is the killing of another person and does not resemble homosexuality in the least. Killing another person is against the law… Forcing sex upon a minor is against the law!!! People may be born with a proclivity to have sex with minors, BUT having sex with minors is ILLEGAL and thus they should go to jail. Minors are different than consenting adults! At least within a free society where adults can make their own personal, private decisions!
Being gay is NOT against the law! The government has not outlawed homosexuality and thus two consenting adults can enter into a consensual relationship if they see fit.
Helldogger
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:47amThey said I was being mean when I taught my little kids that “gay” was a beautiful word used in poems & songs to describe joy & happiness & that homosexuality was a perversion & a curable psycosis. My kids are grown don’t have personality conflicts, they have families. Ha!
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:05am“curable psychosis”?? Wow. Just wow.
Your kids grew up to be normal heterosexuals because they were heterosexual!! If they were homosexual, which is as natural as oxygen, then they would have grown up to be gay no matter what “psychosis” diagnosis you fed them!
Report Post »NICE NICE TACO
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:13amHomosexuality is a deviation from the “natural” norm. It is not the standard. Science has proven this over and over again.
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:19amWhat science has “proven” is that nature is NOT PERFECT in any way, shape, or form! There are mutations and anomalies everywhere we turn, and homosexuality is one of those anomalies that exists (and has existed for ages)! Have you never met any gay people? The proclivity to be attracted in a same-sex manner is as “natural” as oxygen because mutation and perversion are also “naturally” occuring phenomenon! Gay people are born gay its just the way nature rolls! About 10-15% of the country is gay and we just have to deal with that fact.
Report Post »PIL
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:45amSo what’s the big deal? I don’t want some government-funded school tell me what date I can bring to a pep rally. What’s next? Don’t bring a fat person? Don’t bring a black? I don’t want the Bible used to make public policy. Go to church if you like, pray in public, I don’t care, but I’m keeping my beer, my adult videos, my violent video games, and my FREEDOM! This is the Land of the FREE after all, not The Land of the Secular or the Land of the Fundamentalist or the United States of Jesus. People need embrace individualism instead of collectivism. There’s no such thing as “the greater good.”
Report Post »http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:53amWelcome to the Libertarian/Conservative divide that is tearing the Tea Party apart!
Conservatives want “big government” solutions and American theocracy (i.e. CRIMINALIZING reproductive freedoms, same-sex marriage, and allowing the Bible to set public policy).
Report Post »themanflounders
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:11am@Pragmatica You’re exactly right, though I think you are overestimating the number of “libertarians” in the tea party. The tea party is nothing more than the equal and opposite reaction to the Obama phenomenon in 2007-2008. Libertarianism was the only legitimate philosophy to cling onto after Bush had destroyed neo-conservatism for the party and McCain failed to harness the folksy war hero image to any success. So Ron Paul libertarianism was hijacked by social conservatives who want exactly what you said: big government that enforces their social agenda. Like it or not folks, hating gay people is no way to run an economy, and in 2011 it’s not even a way to win an election.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:25amI agree wholeheartedly! It’s why the Tea Party cannot attract independents and cannot grow substantially, and will ultimately fade away as a political force. Most independents and Libertarians are “progressive” on social issues (homosexual marriage, reproductive freedoms, ect…) and thus the Tea Party has an inherent identity crisis that will split their support. I lean right-wing on economic issues but I’m progressive on things like abortion and homosexuality, and the Tea Party is a turn-off for me in the end! I’m pro-immigrant and pro-homosexuality and so even though I’m “Libertarian”, I don’t have a home in the Tea Party, which is more about cultural hostility (anti-homosexuality, birthers, anti-immigrant, ethnic nativism, ect…)!
GnomeChomsky
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:01amThe tea party is already beginning to fade. Becks viewership is 50% of what it was this time last year.
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:08amGlenn losing half of his audience is probably for other reasons beyond the Tea Party!! I do agree though, the Tea Party will have problems growing and becoming a political force if they are hostile towards homosexuals! Most independents and Libertarians support personal and private choices, and do NOT want to criminalize homosexuality!
NC1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:07amI’m a Libertarian and I do not support homosexuality.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:11amIf the Tea Party would stick with the philosophy of Liberty and equal Justice for all, including our Planet, we might be able to find common ground. However, when so called Liberty comes at the expense of the poor, the environment, the less fortunate and the meek, we will continue to be divided by the interests of the Wealthy through Greed and Exploitation.
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
Report Post »Thomas Jefferson
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:22am@ “NC1”… While you may see homosexuality as a “sin” before God, as a Libertarian you should support “individual freedom” and “personal privacy” and the ability of two consenting adults to live life the way that they see fit!
If you are against homosexuality, maybe you are more of a “conservative” than a “libertarian”??
Report Post »sarg356
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:41amMay god have mercy on their emoral souls.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:54am“immoral”… If you are going to judge others at least spell correctly!
Report Post »GnomeChomsky
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:22am@pragmatica
Report Post »Perhaps he was discussing their internet morality
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:03pmPrag
I don’t give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Fool
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 4:19pmMaybe he meant ‘amoral’.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:37amYesterday‘s mental disorder is today’s Constitutional Right.
Get ready for polygamy: bi-sexuals want the right to be married to both a man and a woman at the same time.
Get ready for adult-minor marriage.
God save our country. I’m not anti-gay, I’m pro-Bible.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:45amNick,
Gosh, so should the Buddists in the U.S. be forced to live by Biblical prinipals as well? You are aware it was the Church that assembled the Bible back in the Third Century AD keeping the books they liked and discarding those books that did not comport with Church Traditions, right?
Report Post »tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:45amits a huge leap from consenting adults engaging in polygamy to pedophiles
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:56amGosh sir scott, your ignorance of what was involved in choosing which books were authentic vs which were fakes is astounding!
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:25am@Ser Scot
I’ll bet you know that there are more than 5,000 ancient documents attesting to the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? There’s more proof of the New Testament than there is for William Shakespeare.
Simon Greenleaf, the guy who helped Harvard Law School, looked at the evidence in the Bible and became a Christian.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:35am@tompaineknowsthescore
Not at all. The ACLU is already defending NAMBLA. It’s just a matter of time. Another US teacher has been charged with having sex with a minor just the other day. Hollywood has produced several major movies depicting affairs between adults and minors “Notes on an Affair” to name just one.
If you are a bisexual and you are in love with both a man and a woman, are you going to deny them the right to be married? It’s all about love right?
But, wait it gets better…
Peter Singer, Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University, thinks it’s cool to have sex with your dog.
Report Post »NC1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:39am@Ser Scott
If you read any holy book, not just the Bible, it will teach you that homosexuality should be avoided. Even reading the book “Hagakure”, a far eastern doctrine that teaches how to be a great warrior, tells it’s student to avoid homosexuality. Why, until recently, did the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) ban homosexuality? Why do all these teachings tell people to avoid this behavior (and yes it is a behavior)? Because it is not natural to live that way and will eventually lead to personal ruin, just as any other vice. If our people are weak and give into our vices easily then how long will our nation stand? Why is that so hard to understand? I know people are barking about personal freedom but personal freedom comes with personal responsibility to live a just and upright life with moral rectitude. That is something this nation is getting further and further away from and events like this just push it on down the road towards ruin.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:02pmJedi,
Please enlighten me. I’m aware that the Bible, as we currently view it was assembled largely in an around the Coucil of Nicea, you know where the Nicean creed comes from.
Nick,
I believe Christ died and rose from the dead. I don’t see what that has to do with this particular discussion. I will not impose my beliefs upon others. If they aren’t Christian, so be it. Free will brother.
NC1,
But we are not injured by that behavior. As such it should not be banned unless we can show we are injured by their choice of Dates. Are you going to go after freedom of association now based upon religious principles?
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:57pmser
Are you familar with anything. Books that had Jesus as a child creating small humans out of dirt and then killing them were also trashed. I can understand such but you seem to be a new surface reader. Ignorance is so waved like a flag. You think no one will notice you are a novice. Yes books filled with witchcrafe were also rejected.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:00pmJedi
Report Post »Are you a child. Your ignorance of simple truths give you away. You need to stop watching Star Wars for enlightment and please get your hand out of your pants, get some controland grow the hell up. Fool
NC1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:34pm@Ser Scott
This type of behavior injures the moral fabric of society. I don‘t know your age but I ask if you remember New York City in the late ’70s and early ’80s? Time Square was nothing but strip clubs and porno stores. Crime was even more rampant than in the more recent past and the city was in poor shape. Things did not start turning around for the city until the decadence was pushed out (of Times Square anyways). That’s just a small and brief example of how reckless sexual behavior can destroy something. Sorry, I‘m part of this country and I don’t wan to see it go down that road.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:22pm@pc, Is a civilized conversation beyond your grasp or do you feel that trash talking me somehow shows your ‘maturity’? What is it, best insult wins a debate? Is that how you judge these things? lol.
If folks don’t even know the set of standards the council agreed upon, well….the idea that they simply ‘threw out the books they did not like’ shows ignorance of the highest order.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:37amGood for them. Love is love even if that love is between same-sex couples. If they want to attend the dance together, they should be FREE to do so! Small government!!!
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:43amWord.
:)
Report Post »NICE NICE TACO
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:01amIt’s deviant behavior, it is a choice, it is not determined at birth. The medical/psychological sector has categorized homosexuality as a mental disorder in their text books. There is more medical reports concluding this is not something that is determined at birth. I agree. I know you don’t but that is life. You lambast others on this site for their opinions and accuse them of being judgemental of others but you are doing the same thing.,,,or is it OK for you to judge and no one else? I have a RIGHT to keep deviant behavior away from me and my family. I have a RIGHT to disagree with my neighbor about anything I choose. I have a RIGHT to determine what I accept and do not accept in my life and I CHOOSE (freedom) to reject the homosexual agenda. YOU can do nothing about it.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:54pmNice Taco,
Could you please explain how you are injured by these young women’s choice to go to a dance together?
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 8:19pmMaybe they should make babies tooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 8:17amJediusetheforce,
Your non sequiter is relevant, how?
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:36amGood for them. How they choose to live their lives and who they choose to date is their business. Not mine.
Report Post »NC1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:57amYeah, but we don’t have to have their sick casuses shoved down our throats.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:53pmDo you hide the fact that you are heterosexual from the rest of the world? How are you injured by these young women’s choice of paramours?
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:16pmAll of society is injured when sin is celebrated.
Report Post »royalstar
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:40pmWhat I think about that lifestyle and the belief that it is a personality disorder is my business also.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 6:55amYellowfin,
Can you document that injury? Can you empirically show how society is damaged? Please recognize that change, in and of itself, is not necessarily “damage”. Our religious beliefs our ours we should not impose those beliefs upon others by law unless we can show empirically how the actions we seek to ban are doing injury to other or the society as a whole.
Royalstar,
I don‘t believe I’ve said otherwise. The issue becomes different when you seek to impose your beliefs upon these young women by force of law. Express your displeasure but do not prevent them from going to the dance.
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 4:20pmsir scot,
Report Post »If you do not understand how the sin of homosexuality affects the good order in society, then you are too stupid to even talk to. Go back to school and pay attention this time. Jerk!
heavyduty
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:36amNow that the page loaded right. What crock of crap this is. I seen on one comment that “see how far we’ve come”. I say look how far we have fallen. I can’t believe that the school caved in but then I guess they have to save money for their teachers UNION pensions. Like I said this is a crock of crap.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:00amWhy are you against personal freedom?
Report Post »NICE NICE TACO
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:03amTo Pragmatic:
Why are you so against personal freedom? It is my RIGHT to reject the homosexual agenda or do freedoms just apply to people who are for the homosexual agenda? You sound like a bigot to me.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:14amIt is your right to reject the homosexual agenda, BUT you cannot force other INDIVIDUALS to behave according to your exact moral code. Consenting adults are able to live their lives the way they see fit. You do not have to accept the homosexual agenda, but you have to allow two consenting adults to make their own personal choices, and that is all that was done here. Two girls decided that they love each other and went to a dance together. That is it. FREEDOM!!!
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:17pmNice Taco,
You certianly don’t have to accept the gay “Agenda”. However, your right to disagree with it stops when you try to force others to live as you see fit. These young women have the right to freely associate with whomever they choose. The dance is open to all at the school, therefore, your objections to their choice of association do not trump their right to be there together.
Get a grip.
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:41pmPragmatica
Report Post »Personal freedom!?
Don’t you know that your personal freedom is to be controlled?
What if I used my personal freedom to rape you daughter?
What if your mother used her personal freedom to have sex with a horse?
You are a real sad case if you do not understand how the sin of homosexuality affects everyone.
If society accepts homosexuality, then what is the next step?
YellowFin
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:46pmI am through here, this topic is making me sick.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:29pm@yellowfin
Nobody here is arguing that one has freedom to violate others, what we are arguing is that we have the personal freedom to live our lives as we see fit, and the personal freedom to ignore the morals of bible thumpers, that claims to love freedom but have no understand that, the liberty includes the rights of others to reject your narrow view of what is and is not a proper way to live.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 8:17pmAt least they can’t breed !!!!! I wonder why?
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 12:02amFor all on this board who applaud these girls-
Yes, yes, yes…we ALL get it. These girls have the right to live their lives the way they see fit! BUT- don’t say it is not any of my business. It was made my business when they went public about their sexual preference and some idiot at the Blaze thought it was news worthy (which it isn’t). When you put yourself out there like that you open yourself up to public scrutiny.
Personally- I think the liberals all need to move elsewhere. Pitch your money together an go buy an island somewhere and create the happy utopia of United Progressive Gays and God Haters Nation.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 8:16amBought Your Silo Yet,
So, you don’t go places with your spouse or significant other? You didn’t have your wedding in a public location? Given that you‘ve made you heterosexual choice of a partner public does that mean everyone who’s seen you in public gets to comment upon and discuss your heterosexual relationship?
Report Post »bigfatstarwarsgeek
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:34amWelcome to Sodom and Gomorrah. Wake up and look around, America. We are already there. God help us.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:59amJust stop. There have ALWAYS been a sizable homosexual population in the world. It is as natural as oxygen. We are just starting to treat them like regular humans instead of social pariahs!!! P
Report Post »bigfatstarwarsgeek
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:18amPragmatica, of course there has always been a homosexual population. My problem with this is that these two are being cheered not for an achievement or an accomplishment but for their sexual preference. Why should anyone celebrate for them? Our society and the media has for quite some time been encouraging our population to define themselves by their sexual preferences. Sexuality is a private matter and it should be that way for everyone; not paraded around for all to see. The fact that these two are being cheered publicly for their sexual preferences is disgraceful. God help us, indeed.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:56amThen STARWARS, don’t be holding hands with a girl in public. Not that you could… now back to Grandma’s basement. These are not the queers you are looking for!
Report Post »bigfatstarwarsgeek
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:05pmBetter to be a Big Fat Star Wars Geek than a Big Green Booger! Actually, sorry about that but I couldn’t resist. Turn about’s fair play. Besides my stupid user name doesn’t define what I am. Does yours?
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 6:52pmbigfatstarwarsgeek,
You sir are a man, and I am with you. I understand your disappointment in the current affairs of our society. It is sad, even a fearful thing to see a decent society go down the drain like it is. Jesus told us to pray for God’s Kingdom to come. Until it does, we will unfortunately see further deterioration. Take courage my friend.
Report Post »gulfstream41
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:33amI think that they the right to show their homosexuality as long as they understand that they are throwing away one of the biggest gifts that we bring to this world: our manhood or womanhood.And yes, it is a choice as it is a choice to do drugs.
Report Post »The King
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:32amHow else would they get so much attention?
Report Post »SgtHenick
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:32amYes……look how far we’ve come…
Report Post »Fender726
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:32amYet another reason to homeschool.
Report Post »NICE NICE TACO
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:50amAgreed. Time to defund and shutdown public school entirely. This crap opens the taxpayers (me and you) up to litigation that we have to pay.
Report Post »Cherbear
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:32amI wouldn’t have been applauding. They have their rights, but I also have mine….so far.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:31amWhat a crock of crap.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:53amIs the world passing you by, What’s wrong with freedom?
I suppose freedom is only for things you believe in right?
Report Post »Bearded_One
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:27amIn the alliterative words of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, “Defining deviancy down,” is what authorizes the mother of one of the high school lesbians to say, ““They had a lot of courage.” and “Look how far we’ve come.”
Defining deviancy down gives the illusion that our society is progressing even as it is sliding every so quickly into the abyss. Defining deviancy down intoxicates our society so that parading deviant behavior in full public view, after suing for the right to do so, is called “courage” instead of “shameful” and “wicked.”
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:31am@BEARDED Nice post. Thank you!
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:35amBearded_One,
How are you injured by these young ladies choosing to attend a school dance with each other? How is it in any way your business?
Report Post »tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:43amlet he without sin cast the first stone etc.etc.
i dont see how this angers anyone what the hell has it got to do with you?
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:45amMinors have no right to act out as sexual deviants, and should not be allowed to show their confusion to the rest of the school as if what they are doing is OK! It is not and thanks to all the media, teachers and the rest of society that are really screwing our kids by letting them think what they are doing is OK!
Report Post »moriarty70
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:02am@what4
Report Post »How do you KNOW they’re having sex? Homosexuality is about more than the bedroom activities. It’s about who you love/fall in love with. Are you going to tell me that every time you‘ve fallen in love it’s been a carefully weighed decision?
tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:12amtheir 18 so not minors
Report Post »GnomeChomsky
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:13am@what4
Report Post »theyre not minors, if you had bothered to read the article you would have seen theyre both 18
48
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:14amThis is very sad, It’s unbelievable where our society has gone. I would bet these girls are in for some sad times ahead. This is not normal.
Report Post »HUNITHUNIT
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:18amThis theory is absolute hogwash, as anyone with a brain and a little bit of experience in social theory could tell you.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:57am@WHAT4 In that case, you must remove all school dances in general. No more prom. No more homecoming night. No more sadiehawken. Nothing. In fact, we should just make all our kids into little robots. No emotions, no connections. These lesbian girls weren’t going to the dance to have sex on the stage. Get real. There’s plenty of sexual deviants in high school from heterosexuals. I bet you had sex in high school, didn’t you? If not, I’m sorry. I know I had sex in high school.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:48am@WHAT4
Minors!!!? My grandmother and grandfater were 12 and 13 when they had my father… My grandfather went to war (WWII) at the age of 16 (yes he lied about his age) He was a chaplin in Korea and died in a camp around 30 years of age.
Report Post »“Minor” is just a label we give for legal reasons. Hell, Jesus was 12 when he started teaching.
This really isn’t a news worthy story. Someday, someone is going to knock you people (you know who you are) off you high stools. Probably, Jesus… “I told you guys to love… not hate.”
Whatever!
blanco
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:21amSuing—the American way!!!!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:42amReal root cause of many of our problems in the U.S.
Report Post »This stat is a few years back but, I can’t imagine it has changed that much.
US has ~6% of the world’s population but, US has 66% of the world’s lawyers.
Won’t change since Congress is made up of lawyers, making laws, that allow them and their peers to make money for 20-40 years down the road.
the_zazzy
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 4:48pmIf at first you don’t succeed, sue!
Report Post »DRB
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:20amJeez…..who cares?
Report Post »sarg356
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:46amresponse to drb: everybody who cares about morality and has small children mooron.
Report Post »gulfstream41
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:53amObviously, you do not right now, but you will if you become the parent of them. Not the best feeling.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:02amI lol’d at “mooron.“ Reminds me of the teaparty sign ”morans.” Really speaks volumes :)
Untameable-kate
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:26amI really don’t care what they do. I have been reading the comments here and the ones about the gays protesting and boycotting Chick fillet because the owner, who is an evangelical Christian, donated money to a pro family group.
Report Post »For me the bigger issue is that heterosexuals are being demonized for not being pro gay. It was tradition for the court to walk boy girl in tandem during the procession. Ok the lesbians wanted to walk in the procession, they can abide by the rules. We are bending, and making special rules to accomodate them. If they choose to flaunt their homosexuality fine, but why must everyone else change to adapt to it. They are in the minority and yet they are being looked at as if we can’t do anything ,including keeping our traditions, without fear of “offending” them.
AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:53amI have two small children, and I don’t care. I have a boy and a girl. If either one were to be homosexual, I would love and support them unconditionally. They are my children and I will always be there for them. It amazes me that parents would disown or antagonize their children just because they’re gay.
Why would anyone willing choose that for their lives? Knowing the hardships it represents. My children will grow and learn. They’ll blossom and become who they want to become in this world. I will never judge me children and it pains me to see that so many of you would.
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:31amGreat post AmericanSoldier…. i also have a Daughter (& 3 grand kids.) and if she were gay i would not look at her any differently then i do today. although I‘m glad she’s not, only because of the HATE in our society.. after reading some of these post i have been wondering if they are from the W. B. Church !!!
Report Post »and I‘ll bet that many of the gay’s that committed suicide were bullied and rejected in there own homes.
those are the ones that will have to answer to God
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:13pmAm Sold
If you love your children you will tell them what is right and wrong. You would not put up with a child who molests a child. Would you. Draw a line based on truth and not ignorance. If I had a homosexual child I would reject it. Yes I would do the hard thing. This society accepts the pervert. Will you stay with the crowd. i think you know what happens to the crowd.
8jrts
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:17pmKate
Report Post »You are right! Personally, I don’t care one way or the other. What I do care about it is having one’s sexuality thrown in my face all the time. I don’t parade down the street with a sign telling the world what gender I sleep with, and I don’t want to see that from anyone else either. Same thing at this school…thrown in others faces….pursue your right to happiness all you want, but not in my face.
Untameable-kate
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:22pmAmericansoldier
Report Post »I skimmed the posts and I didn’t see any where the parents would
“disown or antagonize their children just because they’re gay.”
You are doing what all on the side of same sex unions do, that is to decide you know what others are thinking and declare it as truth.
Do you know that it has become trendy and cool in some areas? I know a woman whos‘ daughter admitted that she wasn’t really gay she was pretending to be so she would be more popular and accepted at school.
LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:29pm@ 8jrts you say
“What I do care about it is having one’s sexuality thrown in my face all the time.”
Do you mean like a couple holding hands, kissing in the park, laying on top of each other at the beach ?
Report Post »a man wearing tight speed_dows ( spelling ) or a women with her ba-boobs hanging out lol
and all the sex on tv and in the movies. ….it’s in your face all the time… and i see heterosexuals
expressing there sexuality in public a lot.. i have never seen gay’s doing this, i guess it’s because i live in a very small town.
and although i try not to judge people, to be honest with you i would feel more uncomfortable seeing a gay couple doing these things and i have joked about it,but it’s not my place to judge people.
mikem1969
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:37pmuntamable kate, you are correct, they try to force people to believe as they do and chic filet is just one more example. Kind of like the libs, progressives, muslims and protected minorities, if your opinion or way of life does not match theirs, you are wrong. Amazing isn’t it?
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:15pm@P C BE DAMNED Wow, you never top amazing me. How do you go from homosexuality to child molestation? Oh that’s right, you’re the one regurgitating numbers trying to pass them off as fact without legitimate sources. If my child is molested, the molester (whether straight or gay) will pay for their actions against my child.
@KATE, you not need look further than two posts above you, where P C BE DAMNED directly says “If I had a homosexual child I would reject it” so just because no one else has said it, doesn‘t mean that they wouldn’t reject their child.
I don’t care what any of you believe. They have the right to live and to live their lives in however manner they see fit. You do not have the right to prevent that from happening. You do not need to accept them nor do you have to invite them over to your home for sunday dinner. You do, however, have to let them live their lives like any other American Citizen.
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 4:25pmAlthough I personally believe homosexuality is wrong, I think AmericanSoldier has brought up very valid points. I’d like to comment on a few of the topics being “discussed.” If being lesbians is what these two girls and millions of others choose to do with their lives, then so be it. I know many gay people. Some live their lives quietly and do not impose their lifestyles on anyone else, while others are flamboyantly gay and loud and obnoxious about it. That is what I am against. Why do some have to antagonize and provoke others by being so beligerant? The media has to make a big deal about it in order to fire everyone up and further divide us on inconsequential things. Making a big fuss about these two girls is precisely what I am opposed to. Why couldn’t the media allow them to quietly walk together down the aisle like everyone else. Why does this lifestyle need to be glorified and celebrated more than any other lifestyle choice. I chose to lose my virginity to my wife, who was also a virgin, after we were married. Was that choice celebrated? No, that lifestyle choice is considered “old-fashioned, out-dated, not feasible in today’s society, etc.” I do not judge these girls or any others for their choices, but I certainly do not feel that it needs to be applauded and encouraged.
Is it a choice? I don’t think that can ever be answered factually. AmericanSoldier is dead on with this. I have never had to convince myself to be attracted to beautiful women…it just happens. I have no control over it. So, I cannot say for sure if their biological makeup makes them attracted to the same sex. However, I do believe that God gives each of us challenges that we must learn to overcome. If someone is born with an inclination for violence, we would try to help that person overcome those “natural tendencies.” Since we can, with certainty, argue that homosexuality is not natural, based on the fact that procreation and continuation of species is not possible through this means, then we can argue that homosexual tendencies could be a God-given weakness for certain individuals to overcome. Other than horny dogs, who will try to mate with anything, why do we not see homosexuality anywhere else in the animal kingdom? Because it is not natural.
If any of my children turn out to be gay, I will continue to love them unconditionally. I do not hate these girls, but I do not think that their night should have been celebrated any louder than the straight couple(s) who also attended their special high school dance.
Report Post »N1GHT
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:17amYou would think after this much time gays would have become extinct I mean they cant reproduce can they? It is a choice NO?
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:29amYou would think it would catch up with them
Report Post »gulfstream41
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:38amYes k1ght, it is a choice as it is a choice to do drugs or commit suicide. It is sad a demonstration of support like this; they are throwing away the very nice gift of their womanhood and people are clapping.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:56amYou really believe being gay is a “choice”??
NC1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:53am@PRAGMATICA –
No one made one girl ask the other girl out. No one made them have their first kiss. No one made them hold hands while walking across the gym. No one makes them do whatever it is they do behind closed doors. No one but them. It is a choice.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:05amThey did all of those things (hold hands, ask each other out, go to the dance together, ect…) because they were NATURALLY attracted to other females!!! It was NOT their choice to be gay! Yes they chose to hold hands with each other but that was for reasons out of their immediate control (i.e. they are naturally attracted to other females first)!
LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:35amThe only way some people can say its a “choice” to be gay, they must have made that “choice”
themselves. i mean how can you say that unless you have tried it….lol and made that “choice” lol
mikem1969
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:40amYes, for the majority of the gay and lesbian community, it is a choice. Only about 10% of the them have a hormonal disorder that gives them no control over their actions. Others make the choice.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:49amI ask those who say that homosexuality is a choice, do you hold the capacity to make this choice? Are you capable of being attracted to the same sex? Have you already had such thoughts?
I’m inclined to believe you have. You’ve thought naughty things about the same sex at some point in your life, haven’t you? You’ve had to battle that homosexual choice!
I don‘t believe it’s a choice. I was born a man and have been attracted to beautiful women all my life. I didn’t make that choice, it’s who I am. I’ve never had a homosexual thought either. Never felt compelled to kiss a man. That‘s why I believe it’s not a choice.
In order for one to believe it’s a choice, they must admit that they posses that ability to choose their sexuality. They just don’t want to admit to themselves that they might have been born gay, so thus it’s a choice that they were able to resist.
It’s the only explanation.
Report Post »gulfstream41
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:01amYes Pragamatica; I do believe being gay is a choice. Of course, there are many factors that help, nudge or convince you to choose that, but the fact is that when you analize the whole situation you will see that the wrong kind of parenthood, the relations with other kids, your school experience, predators and bullies around you, and so on are the ones that created the problem. After that, sex is like drugs and you keep being an addict or break away. You have to straight out your mind and understand the problem; then you can do it. The other day I was reading some advice about how to get rid of debt and the first point was: “You really have to want to get rid of it”. The thing about sex is pretty much the same. If you get to understand that you do not have to be a gay or lesbian, that help tremendously; if you get to see how much you are loosing by being one of them, then you are onto something.
Report Post »That is why, in my view, is so reprehensible for the parents of these two girls to go around taking a video of the whole thing and praising them. Same thing happens in the channel where they show people buying houses and once in a while a couple of oversized weightlifters or a couple of women ( one one them with a hair cut that resembles Glenn’s ) are presented like “ a nice couple ”. PC is becoming very damaging.
SimpleTruths
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:00pmSo in your logic heterosexual parents only breed heterosexual offspring? You might want to think that one over a little more.
Report Post »kylin
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:53pmBeing GLBT isn’t a choice. Being a democrat/socialist/fascist is a choice.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 5:47pmNC1,
No one made you choose to have sex with someone of the opposite sex. No one forced you to ask someone of the opposite sex out on dates. No one forced you to marry someone of the opposite sex. So that must be a choice too. Yet, no one is suggesting you should not publicly display the fact that you find people of the opposite sex sexually attractive, are they?
Rapunzel
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 4:08pm@AmericanSolder, who said “I don‘t believe it’s a choice. I was born a man and have been attracted to beautiful women all my life. I didn’t make that choice, it’s who I am. I’ve never had a homosexual thought either. Never felt compelled to kiss a man. That‘s why I believe it’s not a choice.”
First, thank you for your service.
Second, come on, all your life, really??? You never went through the ‘Eww, girl cooties stage’ when you were prepubescent? Sexuality is not just a matter of attraction – it is also a matter of revulsion. Homosexuals don’t just want to be with their own gender, but are often repulsed by the thought of being with the opposite gender; ‘girl cooties’ taken to the extreme, if you will.
Third, are you claiming you remember every single random thought that ever came into your head that you CHOSE not to dwell upon? How can you be sure you did not oh-so-briefly consider homosexuality and decide immediately it was not for you? Some people have those thoughts and choose to indulge them.
Fourth, to insist it is not a choice is in effect condemning the homosexual to a lifestyle they may not really want. So even if they believe it’s wrong, they are told they have no choice in the matter – no control over their feelings or actions since they were ‘born that way’.
Everything is a choice, and that includes your feelings. You can choose to be happy or miserable. You can choose to love your spouse or not (that’s why arranged marriages are so successful). You can choose to indulge that little thought that pops into your mind or not. You can choose to love God – or not. It’s called free will.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 11:08pmAnd you don’t?
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 11:20pm@Looking both ways- OR, maybe, just maybe, people who think that homosexuality is a choice believe it is a choice because they have had friends or acquaintances that were once gay or straight and then just changed to being straight or gay. I had a friend once who was gay. He lived with his lover in house across the street from ours. One day, my friend for some reason took a trip to Israel. When he returned he shared with me all the fabulous experiences of his trip. I started noticing changes in his behavior only days after he returned- just seemed at peace with life. Anyway- he moved out of the house that he shared with his lover. I still keep up with him even though this was 20 years ago. He started dating women and even married a woman a few years later. HE said “it was the best decision of his life.”
This is just one example. I have others where homosexuality IS a choice.
Report Post »N1GHT
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:14amAnother shiny example of our failed social experiment called Public School…..=(
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:55amWhat… Freedom to date whomever you want? Small government!!!
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:24amLloyd Drako
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:16am
“I know God made us in His image, so if I’m bicurious, I figure God must be a little bicurious too.”
–Leopold Stotch
A humbler, more forgiving, more Christlike attitude than yours, don’t you think?
Excellent comment!
Long Live Butters!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:41pmAmerica’s forest just lost another family tree!!!!!!!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:12amWhat a horror! This is an abomination. Shame on their parents and the school system for encouraging such a lifestyle. It goes against GOD and what HE had in mind when HE made us. I am grieved for these young women who are so lost and for our society that apparently has lost its way.
Report Post »tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:31amIts not encouraging them its just not discriminating against them, if the god you believe in exists he will judge them. I dont see how this effects you. does it break your bones or pick your pocket? no
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:52am“Its not encouraging them its just not discriminating against them, if the god you believe in exists he will judge them. I dont see how this effects you. does it break your bones or pick your pocket? no”
Of course it doesn’t affect me or the poster you are replying to. If I see someone standing in the street getting ready to be hit by a truck, you either warn them or wait for the truck to run them over. NO, their getting hit by the truck won’t affect me, but I will have to live with the fact that I did nothing to prevent it. THAT does affect me and many others in a very serious way. I don’t know if you can understand that or not, but I hope you do.
tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:07ami think theres a difference between being hit by a truck and being gay
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:07amWhat are they “ruining” by loving another person and going to a dance??
Report Post »kkfedup
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:09amWhy are so many gay students committing suicide??? Could it be because they know in their soul they are wrong in their behavior??? Going against God will always bring discomfort as a warning. Not heading that warning causes internal strife and depression. I am not gay, but had lived aginst God for too many years before finally letting Him and His natural and moral law guide me every day. I grieve for our society that is being lost to “Human Laws”. We are going down such a dark and horrible path, leading our children skipping behind. God save us…..
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:16am“I know God made us in His image, so if I’m bicurious, I figure God must be a little bicurious too.”
–Leopold Stotch
A humbler, more forgiving, more Christlike attitude than yours, don’t you think?
Dustyluv
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:16amEnjoy it now. When the SHTF here they will have to go into hiding as the Left will have no use for them anymore. During the start of the revolution do you think the Union thugs will stand with the gays and Lesbians? No they were a usefull tools now that will be discarded in the future by the left.
Why are there few gays in Iran? Because they KILL them. Marxists, Communists, Unions and Muslims have hate for them that will be shown in the coming inserrection…Too bad, my brother is gay. I hope he is smart enough to hide.
Report Post »alittlecommonsense
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:43amEvery single one of you that used God in your argument, you need to go pray for forgivness for your own sins. So you are without sin? I have only been up for 30 minutes and I have already sinned today and had to ask for forgiveness (cursed the cat). Maybe all of you should do the same.
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone…
You are not in the position people, you just are not. Make an argument, even hate them, I don’t care, but darnit leave God out of it. Do not preach hate in God’s name, it is not acceptable, and in my opinon you will be judged just as harshly if not more than these two girls. Go sit down and read your bible, it sure sounds like you need a refresher course.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:49am@Dustyluv:
Report Post »Let’s also hope you are brother (or sister) enough to help him hide.
PDfromToledo
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:23amGOD doesn’t judge people like you do Kickagrandma. Shame on you for being so narrow minded and judgemental. Don’t you, for one minute, think that these girls lives aren’t strained enough? It doesn’t effect you so go back under the rock from which you judge.
Report Post »HITLER-HIDING-IN-SF
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:27amTo all of you GOD-LOVING PEOPLE:
Did he say be kind,good and love each other,or did GOD say be nasty and full of hate?
What is it???
AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:43am@KKFEDUP Or maybe it’s because they are being tormented day and night by fellow classmates. Being beaten on a daily basis.
You logic amazes me. Trying to blame suicides on the individual being tormented by their peers. Oh yes, the beatings just made them realize they were scum of the earth not worthy of your God’s acceptance! That’s what made them kill themselves alright!
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:51am@HITLER-HIDING-IN-SF…..God wrote a book,in it He says sin separates us from God. Some are just trying to make others aware of that.Try to focus on the good that people are doing to keep others from a Hot,very Hot future!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:03amPlease a collection of fairytales, assembled in Rome, the Bible also talk about not wearing two differnet kinds of thread and legitizes slavery? Or are we to pick and choose what parts of the Bible to follow.
encinom
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:09am@kkfedup
“Why are so many gay students committing suicide??? Could it be because they know in their soul they are wrong in their behavior???”
No, its because of idiots like yourself and other biblethumpers that have no understand what “love they neighbor means.” Here is proof that tea-baggers hate the constitution and the freedoms it brings. One freedom is the freedom to associate and the freedom to live your life as you see fit. Both exist within the 9th Amendment of the Constitution.
Either you supported everyone’s freedom to purse happiness or you are nothing more than a christian version of the taliban, forcing all to conform with a book of fables, assembles in rome.
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:36amI am a man who loves many men but have sex with none of them Which would be perversion,and you have no understanding of love. Can you please leave your genitals alone for a minute.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:44amHitler
You are obviously a child using 1970′s logic. We who have some knowledge of things are not so ignorant as you and will not easily be persuaded by inane logic. We have become aware of many things and will not stand for perversion just to make some 13 year old think we are cool. We reject homosexuality which always goes side by side with child molestation on a level staggering for 2% of society to be molesting 40% of the molested children. We also draw the line at being accepting of Child molesting, beastiality, racists, wife beaters,necrophilia. Where do you draw the line. So you can hear from them accusatory comments. Or is everything OK. You tell me Fool.
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:15pmLloyd, that was the most disgusting quote that I have ever heard. Your mind has to be completely fried to say such a thing.
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:44pm@ littlecommonsense
Perhaps you should heed your own advice and study the Bible. Jesus didn’t say adultery (or homosexuality for that matter) is acceptable. If you had read the Bible you would know that Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to “Go and sin no more.” How hateful of Jesus to insist this woman stop committing adultery (or homosexuality)! You have made Jesus into your image. The Jesus you worship is nothing like who He says he is.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:53pmHow does this affect you in any way? Is Freedom only for believers in your God?
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:21pm@ tompaine, The difference is not all that great when you consider the bigger picture and spiritual matters.
@ everyone else, I am absolutely amazed that so many people cannot seperate the sin from the sinner. Go read the story where Jesus stopped all those from casting stones and FINISH THE STORY with the phrase “GO AND SIN NO MORE.” Jesus condemned the sin plain and simple. All you folks calling me and others ‘judgmental’ need to understand the difference between the sin and the sinner.
Report Post »HITLER-HIDING-IN-SF
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:24pmALITTLECOMMONSENSE
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone,that is what Jesus said at the stoning of the Adultress.
Report Post »And Mary picked up the biggest rock she could find and threw it at the adultress, Jesus said:
Mother, sometimes you piss me off.
Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:24pmHey Simple, freedom in this country may be for everyone (at least in theory anyway), but Heaven is only for believers in God. Choose wisely.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:07pm@P C BE DAMNED Where are these statistics coming from and who conducted them? Homosexuals responsible for 40% of molestation huh? I want the source, where is it? Real easy to make up or regurgitate numbers you heard from a friend but where are the facts?
Report Post »valarie
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:53pmLloyd, God mad MAN in His image. Sheese…. What a creepy quote.
Report Post »Liberty88
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 6:39pmTo: Lloyd Drako
I love you for posting a South Park quote. And a relevant and thoughtful one at that. :)
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 3:20pm@KKFEDUP
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:09am
“Why are so many gay students committing suicide??? Could it be because they know in their soul they are wrong in their behavior???”
And not only do they know it is wrong, they have been convinced by liberals that they were born that way, that they have no choice about their sexual orientation, they have no power or control over their sexual feelings, and that they are destined to live a life of homosexuality.
Funny how the liberals are so pro-choice when it comes to so-called reproductive rights, but so anit-choice when it comes to sexual orientation – or dare I say, preference.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 8:32pmTo : encinom Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:09am
@kkfedup “Why are so many gay students committing suicide??? Could it be because they know in their soul they are wrong in their behavior???” No, its because of idiots like yourself and other biblethumpers that have no understand what “love they neighbor means.” Here is proof that tea-baggers hate the constitution and the freedoms it brings.
ENCINOM – How could you possibly know why a person committed suicide? Have you had friends, family or acquaintances that have done so? Have they told you why? Your response is way off. Having gone through the horror of losing someone through suicide a number of times, (and the anniversary date of one of those people was just last week) the trauma is unbelievable. In one case, the person was gay, another was a good friend from high school with incurable cancer, and the third one was a mother who killed her child first and then committed suicide.
Each one of them had different reasons – and none of them – not one – was associated with Christianity, the tea party or any political figure. However, each and every one was clearly associated with the loss of hope. Family played major roles in each one, and in different ways each time. But none of it had to do with religious beliefs. Betrayal, abandonment and wanting to spare the family the suffering of a lingering, painful death, yes. Christianity, no.
None of them was looking for personal freedom, they were looking to end the pain. Ironically, in each case, the note said they were “sorry”. Oh, yeah, and the rest of us were left to pick up the shattered pieces of our lives and go on.
And I do have to wonder about your comment regarding “tea baggers hating the constitution”. I thought “tea baggers” were gays who indulged in a particular sexual act. So gays hate the constitution? Okay, whatever. You’re allowed to believe what you want, no matter how wrong, I guess.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:05amGOOD for them!
Report Post »Highland
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:27amWhy?
Report Post »The King
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:31amYes wonderful. A major blow for self interested non forward looking completely thoughtless self indulgence. We need more of these wonderful kids doing whatever they feel like to build our brave new world.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:34amStood up for their rights!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:36amOoops. Your isms are showing… :)
Report Post »The King
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:43amIndeed, the court knows best! Long live the court!
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:48amWell T, God does have an issue with such a life style. If you don’t care about God, He still has a problem with it. It goes against nature and God’s laws. Sorry to be so ‘ism-ish” but it is what it is.
I respect thier right to free choice, but I can also respectfully disagree and hope they change for their own good.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:10amWhat rights are they standing up for? Is it your right to date your sister?
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:20am“Date your sister”?? What are you talking about?? Incest is a completely different issue than homosexuality. Apples and oranges really.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:34am@tifosa is moralphobic!
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:39amThe right to pursuit happiness. They are making that pursuit. Them being homosexuals doesn’t negate that fact. You may not agree with it and believe them to be hell bound but that is NONE of your business. So easy to tell Government and other people to stay out of your life and your pocketbook yet won’t hesitate to tell Homosexuals how to live their lives.
Do you know the world that described that act? Look it up on wikipedia. You’ll find a picture of yourself on there.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:21amWhat you have a right to do is not always right to do.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:35amjedi.kep,
Yes, everyone has the God given right to decide for themselves how they will act and conduct their individual lives.
But, know this, The true and Almighty God will require an accounting of our actions. It is what it is.
Report Post »Jeremiah 25:31
WhiteFang
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:55amI know most of the commentators here will not take the time, or the interest, in actually looking up the scriptures.
They are too consumed with their own ideas and moral judgments. They are ignorant of Gods Word.
If anyone actually believes in a Creator, then they want to know what HE thinks. What we think is not relevant. It is what it is.
Report Post »Revelation 19:11-16
DogTags
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:12pm1. Homosexuality is not about who someone is, but about how someone behaves. A “homosexual” is only identified by the type of sex he enjoys, otherwise he would just be called a “man.”
2. We should not be encouraging sexual activity in our youth.
3. If we are truly endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, people may have the choice to sin, but they do not have a God-given right to sin. God does not give us the right to do wrong.
4. Homosexuality is a destructive behavior emotionally and physically. It is not something that should be celebrated or applauded, especially for impressionable youth.
5. “Lipstick Lesbians” have made homesexuality palatable, especially for men. This seductive softcore approach to homosexuality has many living in the suburbs of Sodom and Gomorrah. By that I mean they say “I’m not a homosexual myself, but I see nothing wrong with it for others.” Funny, though, interest by men in homosexuality wanes when both women look like the boyfriend in the relationship rather than the girlfriend.
http://www.americancreed.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/suburbs-of-sodom-and-gomorrah
Report Post »Matrix22
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:12pmTifosa, I’ll start believing that you stand for personal liberty and freedom when I start hearing Libs screaming for polygamist rights.
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:13pmTIF, they are doing the work of Satin and you are congratulating them. You and people like you should be embarrassed of yourselves.
Report Post »MOVETERAN
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:19pm@Jedi
Report Post »Interestingly enough, the world would be a much better place if we each only worried about the life God gave us and stayed out of others buisness that has nothing to do with us. Sure that would be a perfect world but does not God love all God’s children? Reguardless of choices they make? If the answer is no then what makes God so much better than Ala?
crackerone
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:36pmTry that in Iran or China.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:36pmwhat other lawsuits are on the horizon to force society to accept unnatural and immoral behavior.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:55pmWhiteFang
Report Post »Those verses don’t have anything to do with this story. It does however impune the integrity of everyone on this thread. Cool. Did you have a point or just stopped by to act superior?
jzs
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:18pmJedi, you must be referencing passages from the Bible like Leviticus 20:13: “And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
Do believe that God wants all homosexuals put to death? That’s what the Bible – the Word of God according to you – says. Do you believe these two should be executed as per Leviticus?
@leftfighter
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 1:55pm“Look how far we’ve come,” indeed. Or fallen.
@ MOVETERAN
I suggest you read a little of your bible (If you own one, You likely don’t.)
You can start with Leviticus 20:13, which says that homosexuality is detestable http://bit.ly/cqrr0i
Then you can turn to http://bit.ly/cjdZTB where Jesus says that he came to fulfill the Law, not to create a new one.
Next, go to 1 Cor 6:9 http://bit.ly/e8q2YA where the Apostle Paul says that the homosexual offender shall not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Then finish the circuit back at Leviticus 19:17-18 http://bit.ly/h9vB1u where it says that we should not hate a brother in our heart, but correct them so that we don’t share in their sin. The next verse restates the love theme just to hammer home the point.
Are there people who hate people because they’re gay? Sure. I’ll readily admit there are people who hate the sinners as well as the sin. Just don’t confuse vociferous rejection of their lifestyle and hatred of them. Those are two very different things!
Don’t think God approves of their sin, either. A Perfect God cannot allow this abomination of His Law into His perfect Heaven. If He allows unrepentant sinners into Heaven, God sending Christ to His death on the cross for the forgiveness of believers was entirely pointless and frankly, cruel.
That‘s not the God that’s written about everywhere else in the bible.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:13pm@moveteran, You asked, “…Does not God love all God’s children?” The obvious answer is yes, BUT God does not love all actions done by people and He hates sin. The idea that God simply ignores sin for the sake of love is to completely misunderstand His character and desires.
Report Post »@Jzs, Actually I was referencing the passage where Jesus said “Go and sin no more.” In that passage, Jesus prevents a woman from being stoned for adultery, and makes it clear that he doesn’t condemn her, BUT he put that little phrase on the end of that that says “Go and sin NO MORE” THUS condemning THE SIN. I do not condemn these girls but I do condemn the sin they are engaged in just like I would condemn stealing, murder or any other thing God says we should not do.
Blacktooth
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:55pmUntameable-kate,
Why are you attacking whitefang?
Report Post »His point, if I read it correctly is that God and his Son, Jesus are the judge of all mankind, not you or I.
Read Jude 7 if you want it to apply to sodomy.
Dandylyon
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:14pmYA! good for them,nothing like makeing a FOOL out of yourself early on in life.Force your lifestyle on everyone by god,make them notice you.
You go girl-boy-girl-boy what ever the hell you are.
Report Post »d55may
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:24pmAmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:39am
The right to pursuit happiness. They are making that pursuit. Them being homosexuals doesn’t negate that fact. You may not agree with it and believe them to be hell bound but that is NONE of your business. So easy to tell Government and other people to stay out of your life and your pocketbook yet won’t hesitate to tell Homosexuals how to live their lives.
Do you know the world that described that act? Look it up on wikipedia. You’ll find a picture of yourself on there.
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Does that mean that they should also be allowing others to practice whatever religion they want wherever they want too? And those same people have the right to free speech. Wikipedia LOLOLOLO I hope you don’t take that trash seriously.
AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:02pm@CRACKERONE So are you suggesting that we have our rules and policies identical to Iran and China, in order to eliminate this homosexual threat? The fact that American’s have this freedom to be gay while countries like Iran and China dont (not sure if China has a problem with homosexuality) should be APPLAUDED!
@D55MAY Why shouldn’t you be able to practice your religion on your own property? Are you allowed to come on to my home or business and preach your Gospel? HELL NO. If this is your argument for allowing prayer in church, here is why I don’t believe you have the right to impose religion on PUBLIC school. Christians are not the only one paying taxes to fund those school. Atheist, Muslims, Buddhist, Pastafarians, everyone that pays their taxes fund that school. You child can go into his/her classroom a few minutes early and take a moment to pray to him/herself or to a group of student, on their own time.
And I said Wikipedia exactly because it’s ridiculous, to emphases the ridiculous level of hypocrisy that dribble from a lot of so called liberty loving Conservatives….
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:03pmCorrection: Prayer in School
Report Post »Sergio Q
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:46pmGood for them indeed “TIFOSA”
Report Post »…I’m not gay but am a Christian (nobodys rolemodel ,but smart enough to belive in the truth) , & notice how many Christians get all bent outta shape over things like this , so, rather than rant & rave how God sezz this or Jesus sezz that REMEMBER what is written about such ;
ALL have sinned & fall short of the glory of God …you , I and these girls are “free moral agents” & have been given by GOD the option to follow what path they, you, I choose.
…funny how the Bible sezz he can make the stones worship Him but would rather have YOU , I , THEM ~choose~ to follow ,,,& encourages the followers to accept that not all will choose to belive ,follow or respect your choice.
…so act Christlike & pray for em’ rather than act like some muslam cleric & stone or behead them!!
The Noodle Fish
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:52pmYo soldier4christ, you can’t even spell satan properly. What kind of moronic religious zealot are you? Tif has a point, and so do the people who say that teens shouldn’t even be having any kind of sex.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 10:41pm@Prag- YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG!
Do you think that 50 years ago there would be much support for homosexuality? We all know the answer- absolutely not. Unfortunately, people will accept what they have been CONDITIONED or groomed to accept. Today its homosexuality, tomorrow it will be people who practice incest, and the day after that, bestiality. So- its not apples to oranges comparison. Its just a matter of what this generation will accept compared to tomorrows.
Report Post »IPRESS
Posted on February 3, 2011 at 12:30amIts probably not good for them.
Report Post »Moocephus
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:49amThe new norm?
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:20amNo, they just to ugly to date boys………………
Laus Deo
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 8:32am“I feel so much better.. Now that I’ve imposed acceptance upon you.” PS, you will accept us or else…
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:45amNot new. I read a story written a spell back about a couple of towns. I think they were called Sodum and Gammorah.
Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:02amNothing really new here at all. Homosexual people have been around since the beginning of man, and Americans have been fighting for personal freedom and equal rights for over two centuries now!
FormerLib
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:04amI don’t get why two female lesbians have to go to the prom dressed as two gay boys.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:35amAnd what liberties are these young lesbians infringing upon that you small government, liberty loving Conservatives oppose them so much? You mock them for wanting to “force” acceptance yet in your next breath want to force your religious ideals to the whole nation. You are no better than the liberals, you just have a different set of beliefs you want to force onto the nation.
bikerr
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:39amI think that several students should demand to be able to Pray to God during their school day.(out loud if they want). Then see how fair and accepting the school district is.!
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:03amStudents can voluntarily get together and “pray to God” out loud in public schools! The GOVERNMENT just cannot force Bible readings in public schools.
See “Abington Township v. Schempp”… it was RELIGIOUS FAMILIES that were uncomfortable with the GOVERNMENT reading the Bible to their children!!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:25amSince they both dressed up as men, their moms saved a ton of money by renting tuxedos instead of buying over priced prom dresses.
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:04pmWith homosexuals, it’s all about sex. Normal people don’t run around broadcasting that they like sex with their spouse. I’m sick and damn tired of the left ramming their perverted and deviant ways on us and telling us to like it. Next we will be told that we have to accept serial killers. After all, they were born that way and that we are murderphobes for not liking what they do.
drkmagneto
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:11pmIt’s a lifestyle and a choice. Don’t impose acceptance on me!
Report Post »I.Swear.By.My.Life.and.My.Love.of.it
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:20pmHow can any person who stands logically for freedom have any right to tell any life who they should or should not love? I don’t get it.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 12:33pmThey don’t look gay!
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:15pmWhite Devil, I absolutely love your post. You, my friend, are a genius! I have been saying the same thing for years. You are not a devil, you are an angel!!! Give yourself more credit. Your prob the smartest person posting on this blog (for this article at least). God Bless you!!!!
jbl8199
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 2:58pmI have no problem with lesbians, but there‘s one thing I don’t get, if they like women so much, why do they always try to look like guys? Hmmmm. Makes you wonder.
Report Post »d55may
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:17pmNext, we’ll have to accept, pedophiles. They’ll NUDGE us a little at a time, first adult men or women with 16 year old, then 15 year ole, until they are having sleep with our 10 ten years. Isn’t that already legal in some middle eastern cultures or is it in all of them?
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 3:54pm@WHITE DEVIL I don’t know what normal people you are around, or what you constitute as “normal” but guys talk about sex constantly. Daily, maybe even hourly, especially single guys. Any age, any demographic, straight guys talk about sex all the time. Why do you think Maxim magazines, The Man Show, Spike TV in general, exist? To talk about sex. To try to go get laid. You might live under a rock somewhere on the bible belt but your experience of prude adults is definitely not the norm, especially in a big city.
So don’t go saying that homosexuality is all about sex. Have you experienced a homosexual relationship? If not, you have no room to make that assumption.
dr_funk
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 4:32pmWell gay relationships certainly aren’t about raising a family, are they…
I bet you 50 bucks both of these girls have absent or abusive fathers…
ozz
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 5:26pmThe fall of western civilization, we broke the USSR but the communist party broke us too. They sought to destroy what held us together. One more step down in morality. One step closer to their goal.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 5:39pmThe nice thing about being a Libertarian is that I do not have to feel obligated to force MY will upon others. I have don’t think a lot of you understand true liberty.
No Victim-No Crime
You must admit that The Holy Cheney did his part in sowing the seeds of homosexuality.
mrlogan3
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 5:50pmOk, I’m about to go in on so many of you.
@Truthtalker Sodom and Gomorrah is a story. It’s just a story. I believe that there are truths in the Bible, but it is not entirely factual.
@Bikerr A tax supported school is a government institution so to require Christian prayer is unconstitutional, as it would suggest the establishment of a State religion.
@White Devil I’ve been waiting to write yours. Serial killers KILL PEOPLE. Homosexuals LOVE PEOPLE. That‘s the difference because it seems like you couldn’t tell.
@Soldier For Christ If you think he’s the smartest one on here you need a new definition of intelligence
@D55May Pedophiles rape children. Homosexuals love each other. I don’t get how people can equate gays and violent criminals.
AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 6:46pm@DR_FUNK And so they should not be allowed to have their consensual relationship? Some heterosexual couples either can’t reproduce or choose not to have children, should that be outlawed too? Do you actually believe in freedom or just for YOU and your fellow church congregation?
WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 7:54pm@Americansoldier…in reference to your post to White Devil…I do not believe you have to try **** sex to know it’s not for you…I’ve never tried freebasing heroin, but I‘m sure it’s not for me either.
Report Post »dlayco
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 9:13pmWOW, I don’t understand why so many religious and conservative people are Homophobes. I am happy for them and don’t see any difference in them walking together than I do an interracial couple walking together. And how exactly are they forcing anything on anyone? They are not overtly glorifying the sex lives by walking together so this whole its all about sex with homosexuals thing is crap.
LB
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:09pmwhy are courts deciding what is allowed in schools that “we the people” pay for with our tax dollars (these days we also contribute more and more of our personal income going to registration, class/lab fees, kleenex, making our own copies etc..) I think the parents of the students should decide what the rules are. This is @ss backwards as usual.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 10:47pmNot the new norm. Each notch down on the propriety standard begs another notch down. Next will be cheers and O’s for coming out in middle school. That, of course, will beg another notch down. Welcome to the brave new world of acceptance. “Not that there’s anything wrong with it.”
Report Post »foobear
Posted on February 1, 2011 at 11:37pmThe OT forbids male homosexuality but not female homosexuality. But don’t let your lack of theological knowledge trip you up before you go blasting people.
The ancient Israelites made a contract (that’s what a covenant is) with God – they’d worship him in exchange for Abraham having more descendants than the grains of sand on a beach, etc. Therefore a male Jew that doesn’t make babies is an oathbreaker with God, which is about as serious a crime as you can get. Lesbians weren‘t an issue because presumably they’ll get married and have kids anyway, because their husbands won’t let them get away with not having sex with them. Maimonides writing in the Middle Ages recommended that Jewish men discipline their wives that had tendencies that way, and keep them away from other like-minded women.
sWampy
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 10:06amPlaygroundBully oh sorry fake AmericanSoldier, that was to be the beauty of the United States, we were a bunch of communities that could each have their own rules and morals, if you don’t like them, you are free to move somewhere else that shares your rules/morals/lack of morals, that’s freedom. When you as a small brained ***** start forcing your rules/lack of morals on all of us, it’s not freedom, it’s a dictatorship.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 11:01amGODLOVINMOM Well the guys I hang out with are the soldiers fighting for your freedom. I suppose we’re all just below you.
SWAMPY Hahaha. Personal attack is a sign of a losing argument. Beautiful how you open your statement with one right off the bat. I bet you criticizes the left for doing the same thing to Beck and palin, huh? Good job being just like them! Did you read what you wrote? You don’t want me to put my lack of morals on you? How did I do that? Did I force you to become gay? Did i force you to have anal intercourse? No. Yes you stand there and want to impose your morals on others! Telling them they can’t be gay! All I ask is for individual freedom, the freedom for each of us to live our lives as we sit fit. How is that forcing morals on you? HYPOCRITE in the purest form!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 1:09pmamericansoldier…I’m just saying that people with morals do not talk this way…its vulgar and not funny…I’m no better than anyone…and the fact that this is shoved at us every which way is the point we are trying to make…nobody is forcing anyone to become a christian…its just the opposite…so we cant teach creation in school…we can’t have the ten commandments in public buildings anymore and we have to be okay with that…God is out the door in America and we have to accept that…if we as christians have to have these rules imposed on us…why not them…be gay if you want to be gay…nobody is saying you can’t be gay..thats between you and God as is every sin…I for one am tired of seeing my country go down the toilet..
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 1:57pmMore hard hitting and vital news from The Blaze! Clearly this site is living up to its mission to report what other news sources leave out! Without The Blaze, how would we know about the dating habits of two high schoolers in a small Minnesota town?!
Point of comparison: Half of the Blaze’s articles have been warning about the kind of intolerant theocracy that the Muslim Brotherhood would set up if they were to gain power in Egypt. And then there is this article, which seems tailor made to invite you goofy Blazers to condemn a few High School girls for being homosexuals (it would be naive to think that the editors of The Blaze would be totally unaware of the kind of responses they would get on these boards).
Report Post »Trance
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 3:56pm@Americansoldier
First, thank you for serving our country. My daughter is in JRROTC, and wants to serve her country after high school, and I am a very proud father.
But, wow, way to hold your own. I hope all of our soldiers fight as hard as you do. On and off the battlefield.
As a libertarian, I’m sick of both the left and the right trying to shove their beliefs down my throat. I think that the right is generally correct on fiscal issues, such as wealth confiscation, and the right to bear arms (or better put, the right to our own labor). But I think the left is generally correct on social issues, such as being allowed to be homosexual, and use drugs (or, better put, the right to govern our own lives).
The only major dispute I have with the left on social issues is abortion. Nobody should have the right to kill an innocent child because they don’t want it. That’s the most repugnant thing our nation allows.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 6:33pmaye aye Captain!
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 10:28pmFirst, of all I think that children are being manipulated into growing up faster than really they should. Second, I do not believe that homosexuality is some kind of birth defect. If it were a defect explain how some homosexuals have changed to heterosexual later in life. Explain how a man or woman who have been heterosexual all their lives suddenly turn homosexual. I personally believe that it is a CHOICE. And because I believe this, I also believe that these two girls will some day regret these choices.
But- while I can accept people making their own choices in life, I can not accept being forced into accepting a lifestyle choice that goes against my personal beliefs as a Christian. I am very tired of Hollywood forcing this into every aspect of entertainment that they can. They do not care that some people literally want to hurl when they see two women or two men making out. I believe this is a natural response to homosexuality.
Finally- for the uber-left it does not matter if watching gays make out, makes a viewer cringe. I guess their thought process is they do not care if they offend traditional folks. Their goal is to force acceptance by desensitizing the opposition- if we are made to watch it over and over again we’ll eventually accept it? That said- if the gay want to be gay- be gay. But don’t advertise it. I do not advertise that I am heterosexual! (get the point?) If the gay want to make a commitment to one person (a life partner) fine- but don’t ask to be married. Marriage is an institution established by God. Do not insult my faith by trying to force laws to include a homosexual union as a marriage. And Hollywood- be respectful of EVERY movie-goer. If there is even a hint of homosexuality in a flick- ADVERTISE it! I have a right not to see it.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 2, 2011 at 11:04pmJust a couple of comments:
1. “Students voted onto the royalty court traditionally enter the assembly in boy-girl pairs. After Lindstrom and Shelton, both 18, were elected, school officials last week announced a change in procedure: court members would walk in individually or accompanied by a parent or favorite teacher. School officials said they merely wanted to prevent the two from being teased. But on Friday, two human rights groups sued on their behalf.”
Okay, so according to the article, this wasn’t an issue until the SCHOOL OFFICIALS made it into an issue. If the school officials had just left everything alone, the two girls would have walked into the event hand in hand and it would have been a non-starter. This situation seems to me to be very similar to the argument over reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Two minutes and it would have been all over.
2. “Champlin Park is part of the Anoka-Hennepin school district, Minnesota’s largest, which has been in the spotlight in the past year for its handling of issues involving gay and lesbian students.
It has been in the crossfire for its policy of “neutrality” in classroom discussions of homosexuality. It was reached in 2009 as a way to balance the demands of liberal and conservative families, but neither side has been completely happy with it. The issues flared again last year after a gay student, Justin Aaberg, killed himself. His mother has said she heard too late from Justin’s friends that he had been harassed. Aaberg was one of six students who committed suicide in the district since the beginning of the 2009-10 school year, and advocacy groups have linked some of the other deaths to the bullying of gay students.”
Okay, obviously, this has been an issue in the past, and the school decided on a “neutrality” position. Well, if the students are to really decided FOR THEMSELVES what their sexual orientation should be, isn’t it right that the school remain neutral? The public schools should be serving all the families in the district, not just the pro-gay or anti-gay ones by endorsing or promoting one lifestyle over another.
However, since there have been a number of suicides by students, ADVOCACY GROUPS have linked these deaths to the bullying of gay students.
So, it seems to me that the school administration and the advocacy groups who stirred this pot up, not the conservative families. The decision was made by the administration to prevent harassment, but ended up in a lawsuit by the ADVOCACY GROUPS. Once again, it wasn’t the conservative groups that sued the school, but the pro-gay groups. The schools do have an obligation to protect the students that attend them, and the administration made a pro-active decision (right, wrong or otherwise) to head off something they believed to be basis for harassment. Had they not done this and someone had harassed the two girls, the school would have been sued for not anticipating the harassment.
You can’t have it both ways.
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