TX School District Sued for Including Prayer at Graduation
- Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:03am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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A national group fighting for separation of church and state has filed a lawsuit against a local Texas school district because it has refused to remove prayer from its graduation ceremony.
Americans United for Separation of Church and State filed suit against the Medina Valley Independent School District (near San Antonio) on Friday on behalf of a local family. The group is upset that the June 4 ceremony will include a student-led invocation and benediction. But according to the district, the two planned statements by students do not constitute official school positions and those students have a right to free speech.
“A disclaimer is printed in each graduation program that notes the content of each student speaker’s message is the private expression of the individual student and does not reflect the endorsement of the district,” school board president Roland Ruiz told the San Antonio Express.
Christa and Danny Schultz, the family behind the suit, and the Americans United group allege, however, that the school is breaking the law:
“Public schools can’t require students to take part in religious worship as the price of attending their graduation,” the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United, said in a statement. “This is settled law, and the district needs to stop resisting it.”
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In October 2010, the couple’s lawyers wrote to district officials asking them to stop plans for public prayers during school events. According to the release, officials didn’t respond to the request.
The Schultzes attended the graduation of a family friend in 2008, “where they were exposed to unwelcome prayers,” the lawsuit stated, and it happened again in 2009 when their eldest child graduated.
The son said he might not attend the ceremony if prayers are included, according to the release.
In a statement on the group’s website, it refers to two Supreme Court cases as evidence. In the the first, Lee vs. Weisman, the justices ruled that involving clergy at public school graduations was a violation of the Constitution’s Establishment Clause. In the second case, Santa Fe Independent School District vs. Doe, the justices concluded that student-led prayers over the PA system before football games also violated the Establishment Clause because of perceived government endorsement.
But the district isn’t backing down, according to Ruiz.
“It is sad that someone would choose the commencement exercises of the 50th anniversary of our school district as a forum for stirring political debate that threatens to needlessly cast a shadow of controversy over the pinnacle event of the class of 2011,” he said.
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Comments (270)
grady52
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:04amGOD before government!
Report Post »seon
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:16amBut apparently lawyers are before God…
Report Post »fmingram
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:41pmWhat do mean God before government? What are you? A THEOCRAT, GEEEEZZZ. Organized religion is a curse on mankind, carried out by mostly con artists with the gift of gab. These con artists take advantage of otherwise rational people and convince them of a bunch of nonsense. Religious Fundamentalism comes in all flavors. It does not matter if it is Christian, Muslim, Judaism, or even Scientology; it’s a load of nonsense that is centered around fear, and division of the people, all in order to con you out of your hard earned money.
Report Post »aapatriot
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:52amWe have prayer at many school functions, including graduation. There is always a presentation of The Lord’s Prayer by Native American girls in traditional dress as well. It’s touching and beautiful. Also bold. Someday somebody is gonna try to make something of it and we’ll have to school them.
Report Post »lisalake
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:00amWhile Coyners introduces a bill to protect muslims against discrimination — prayer continues to a crime for Americans — civil disobedience is the answer — when hundreds of people everywhere show up and stand up at these events and pray — there will be nothing they can do — Americans everywhere need to stand against these activist wacko judges and exercise our rights — loudly.
Report Post »Red Bubba
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:48amIt is settled law, but the anti-God advocates never stop pushing. Unfortunately, there are sympathetic and/or ignorant administrators who back down.
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:45amThis is way out of hand…..I have never been offended by anyone or group who says a prayer….and now we have some idiots bringing a lawsuit to stop this activity? What happened to our country?
Report Post »ares338
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:42am@L_ A_C_T
Report Post »Like you are doing?
Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:48amThis forum allows me to do so. It is a free open forum paid for with private funds, but the owners allow all opinions. If they didn’t, my posts would not appear.
Your point has now been destroyed.
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:00amThe school should have the class vote on it. Most are old enough to vote anyway, sooo. Give them the choice.
Report Post »Catfish
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:33amI think we should obey God rather than man, these libs, bad need to study to see whos side they are on. or are they all atehist and just wont own up to it, democrats, ACLU, unioms and muslims
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:39am“I think we should obey God rather than man …”
Which god (Zeus, Ra, Thor, Allah …)?
Why?
Report Post »cajunsense
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:27am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker – it’s called faith, something you seem to be lacking. I will say a prayer for you that you find it.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:39amI have faith that most of the people on the Blaze don’t understand rational thinking. I have faith that they would rather blurt out nonsensical statements confessing a belief in a god that they can’t back up with evidence.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:28am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Report Post »Screen name seems like oxymoron to call yourself a critical thinker, but can’t even decide whether or not there is a God…….might be time to get more imput for that “Critical Thinking”. Which GOD is the one true GOD…….Yahovah or Jehovah (Greek spelling)
You know, the more you study, the more you realize that man does not find GOD………GOD finds man and draws to him his children. Guess you just haven’t made the cut yet!
joelack55
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:00pmYahweh. And ……… You’ll find out why
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:32amYeah, dears, well, every time I take my grandchildren down the highway, they are “exposed” to crummy billboards worshipping the “god’s” of sex and money, and I’m not suing. GET A SPINE, AND BUCK UP!
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:29amIf they don’t want to hear the prayer, they have several options. 1. Don’t go to the graduation. 2. Put cotton in their ears or wear earplugs or earmuffs so their delicate sensibilities aren’t offended 3. Think about something else while the prayer is occuring – like reciting their times tables or the liberal talking points to themselves.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:35amNo, you have it wrong, If the people praying want others to hear the prayer, they should go to an appropriate forum. A graduation ceremony where public funds have been used is the wrong place. Why can’t they pray silently? Can’t Jebus hear those prayers?
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:49amStudents have to pay money for their graduation where I come from. As far as “our God is concerned, who is your god? That would be you. Cheers.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:53amTake it to court then and see who wins.
As for the gods, I’ve seen no evidence for any. Do you have any evidence on hand that
A. Point to a god existing?
B. Show which god it is?
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:18amI truly wish the Supreme Court would take it up. My God is in my heart. Your god is you. It’s that simple. Cheers.
Report Post »tierrah
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 12:41pm@angelcat: It amazes me that people get upset about LOCAL communities opting to celebrate graduation or any occasion in the style of their forefathers. It is NO ONE‘s business how this town or city wants to conduct it’s graduation ceremony. For every school that allows the individual expression of faith in God, there is an equal and opposing location somewhere that has chosen to be PC. Stupid, stupid people! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and let others live as they wish. If you don‘t live in this town and don’t pay taxes here, then you have no voice in what goes on there. If there is a separation of God and state as so many of these lefties proclaim, them explain to me why their president has an OFFICIAL committee for faith/religion in his administration!!!
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 2:06pm@Liberal, ” I just believe in one less god than you do. ”
Atheism is the denial of all beliefs. You do not even believe in your ‘self’.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:59pm@LACT
It will eventually make it to the Highest court
Report Post »Hereigns7
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:11amIt is high time that the Christian community stand up for the cause of Christ by offering our public prayer to Him. We must not lose this right, to do so will marginalize Christianity and destroy its exclusiveness. Once these rights of speech, prayer, and witnessing are removed then it is a small step to persecution. We must move beyond just claiming that this is a country founded on Christian values to proclaiming that God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ created the world, reigns over the world, and must be worshiped by all or face their eternal consequences. Posted by Rev. Daniel W. Blair – Revelation-Truth
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:30am“We must move beyond just claiming that this is a country founded on Christian values to proclaiming that God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ created the world, ”
Not Accepted.
“reigns over the world, ”
Not Accepted.
“and must be worshiped by all or face their eternal consequences.”
Not Accepted.
Stop trying to force your bogus delusions on other people.
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:43amAtheism – not accepted
Report Post »Be offended.
Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:50amOh that doesn’t offend me, it makes me giggle.
See,we are both atheists – I just believe in one less god than you do. When you understand why you don’t believe in all the other gods, you will understand why I don’t believe in yours.
Do you understand why you don’t believe in all the other gods? I doubt you really do.
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:13amWhen will atheists admit that they are their own god? I have my God and you have yourself.
Report Post »Patriot Rider
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:40amThough the Christians in this world can not prove that God does exist, likewise, the non believers (Atheists) CAN NOT prove t hat he does not exist. SO Mr. Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker, there lies your challenge, so me PROOF that God does not exist and I will become a non believer. May God have mercy on your soul.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 2:23pm@Patriot Rider
Excellent rebuttal!
Report Post »Opinionmonger
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:30pmwhy the fuss about logic101?
Report Post »It’s much simpeler:
If you belief, than god exist. == 1
If you som’t belief he does not. == 0
if you don’t know its undecided, == 0/1
throw the dice …
so it is merely fuzzy logic.
Nobamazone
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:11amMedina Valley Independent School District
Report Post »8449 FM 471 S Castroville, Texas 78009 830-931-2243 830-931-4050 FAX melinda.salinas@mvisd.com
assistant to the superintendent of the schools
I have already sent an email expressing my support and asked if there is a fund set up, others mentioned willingness to help, we all know that schools end up giving up because they cannot afford the legal battle, lets put our money where our mouths are!
kickagrandma
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:32am@NOBAMAZONE ~~ Thank you. Done.
Report Post »BiteMePETA
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:06amTake $$$$ from Federal Govt. then they get to tell you how to use it. Learn the correct problem here…
The issue is NOT prayer in schools. It is that we allowed the Federal Govt. to get involved in schools (and everything else) and we LOST our Freedoms/Liberty!!!
You keep arguing about prayer in schools, and WE LOSE!!!
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:13amThey do tend to kill anything they touch.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:59amWe will continue to stand with GOD, JESUS and THE HOLY SPIRIT! We will NOT be silenced. CHRISTIANS have always been persecuted because we follow the PERSECUTED, HATED INNOCENT CHRIST WHO came to this earth with the sole purpose of revealing GOD’s love for each one of us.
How dare you deny us the right to worship our GOD.
You don’t like it, go live in any myriad of countries who are in agreement with you. This one, this AMERICA IS CHRISTIAN, founded on the Judeo-Christian Ethic.
Those of you fighting GOD have no idea WHO it is with whom you are dealing and what it is you are protesting. You are protesting LOVE. You are standing against LOVE in its purest form. You are alone, absolutely and totally in the dark and demanding that everyone else live in your self-imposed isolation.
Not this “chick”! Not these “pollitos”!
You’ve ruffled our feathers and the rocks are crying out against you. JESUS CHRIST IS THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES and every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that HE IS LORD.
We WILL PRAY to HIM at every opportunity. The more you protest, the louder and more fervent our prayers.
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA. MAY HE pour out HIS blessings on this school district in TEXAS and upon the students with the courage to PRAY OUT LOUD IN HIS NAME, amen!
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:47amand Amen
Report Post »stheide1
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:10amPreach it —– And Amen
Report Post »ByrdsofMisssouri
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:20amYes and a big Amen!!!
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 2:19pm@KickAGrandma
Amen, Amen, and AMEN! :-)
Report Post »fmingram
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:19pmThere is no God, get over it and quit pushing that nonsense on the masses. Enough said
Report Post »krixie61
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:58amSTAND STRONG…God bless the USA!!
Report Post »kuhl
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:55amThis is religous persecution through and through.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:54amI am so tired of this crap .If we pray ,they get offended ,and say we forcing religion on them ,And what are they doing but ,forcing their beleives onto us.
Report Post »Danola
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:54amIf Americans were required to pay for their own tuition….we would not have these problems. Rick Perry has the power to start investigations into these atheist movements (ACLU) and tie them up in court and litigation. They are afraid of having to turn over their secrets. And Bobby Jindal could do the same in Louisiana, but Bobby is too in love with the school unions and universities.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:50amWhy not let them have a Muslim, Hindu, or Jewish prayer. I don’t want my kids listening to some wacky Christians at school. I don’t want them speaking in tongues. SHAMALARADALAMA!
Report Post »awizard
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:24amHuh, apparently ’cause there aint no Muslim, Hindu, or Jewish students that want to pray at that ceremony … From what I read, they would be allowed if they wanted … I think it’s called “Tolerance” or maybe “Free speech”, or let’s try “Freedom of religion” (that’s different than “freedom From religion”) … oh gee, that’s the very thing the School is trying to protect … imagine that.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:43amThey can thank God or Buddha or Allah in their speech, but I don’t want them to start praying to their God so we have to listen.
Why would you want that? It’s lame, and tacky. That’s like those Christians that pray in public places like restaurants…CUCKOO!
Report Post »awizard
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:15amYou also are entitled to your opinion and your views … but I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that those CUCKOOS who pray in public would not attack/sue you for them …
I can think of a lot of “tacky” stuff I see everyday everywhere … Tacky is not prohibited in the Constitution, so you can be as tacky as you want. Freedom of Speech is “Required” … Freedom of Religion is “Required”.
Let the kids pray for God’s sake, then you can spit and call them “Tacky CUCKOOS” and be on your way … You don’t have to sue them in an effort to stifle them. Here we are talking about “kids” … maybe one day they will grow up and see the error of their ways …
Report Post »spotster
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:45ampillow bitters dont have kids lol
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 3:28pmBrian,
I’ll give you the same advice I give to socialists and communists….. if you hate America AS it was founded…………………….. LEAVE.
We Christians are VERY tolerant of you atheists and YOUR beliefs, WHY is it that you can’t, or won’t return the favor?
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:38pmwhen this goes to court the lawyer needs to read the CONSTITUTION in court followed up with the actual words of our founding fathers and get David Barton in that court room he will set the record straight on what our founding fathers meant by seperation of church and state, this is just another ploy by the liberal,communist left to destroy this country from within
Report Post »Ibelieve2
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:47amThe “separation clause” is a sham. It’s time someone takes this to court and exposes it for the lie the left has made it to be. If the school district needs $’s for their defense, count me in!
Report Post »Obama Been Lauding
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:46amHere’s a hypothetical for you!!!
Report Post »What if a Muslim wanted to put a prayer rug down on the 50 yard line, and wail a prayer?
Would that be acceptable???
Probably so under our current Administration in D.C.!!!!!!!
dizzyinthedark
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:13amIslam is a political ideology not a religion! Big difference. Christianity preaches love we do not preach the anihilation of muslims, we have no desire to wipe them off the face of the planet, on the other hand, pick up a koran, look into sharia law, that is what they want FOR YOU! They want nothing more than to wipe YOU MY FRIEND off the face of this America! How do they refer to us? The great satan? Yeah, let’s allow muslims to pray, NOT! For they pray for our death.
Report Post »iamsaved
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:36amI believe we’re long past the point where we let the courts, ACLU (Anti-Christian Lawyers Union), Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and others like them legislate from the bench or get their way through intimidation. I applaud the school district for taking a stand and hope they don’t back down. There needs to be more of that.
There is no right not to be offended. It’s time we stop letting this minority of nitpickers bully everyone into submission and start some good old civil disobedience. Can you imagine that if Martin Luther King and other black leaders during the civil rights movement would have cowtowed to “legalities” and “cease and desist orders”? We’d probably still be in the 1950s. It were laws and “so-called rules” they ignored to further their cause.
We the people need to return this country to what it was and not let those who would destroy it have their way.
Report Post »awizard
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:21amThere is no such thing as “Separation of church and state”, there is however Free speech in this country, there is also the freedom to live wherever you want … Why would these people want to live in such a Hostile environment and be subjected to “Prayer” at a public gathering?. Christa and Danny, maybe you should get out of there before you are mugged by a student’s prayer …
“This is settled law, and the district needs to stop resisting it.” Settled law”?.. hmmm, sorta like global warming and gay rights ?.. huh, well it’s settled with me, Let us Pray …
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:37amThe kid has the answer, if you don’t want to hear the prayer just don’t go.
Report Post »Or they could just hold their ears.
Atheist
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:20pmYeah, and people against separate but equal could just choose not use the whites only bathroom. They could hold it until they got home.
Report Post »kendeer
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:17amNobody will ever stop christains from praying ! not even obama
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:26amWow, I’m sure if there was a car accident down your street you would find somehow to blame President Obama. I’m sure your Christian upbringing encourages all this hate you have for the President.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:47amThe courts have already ruled that if prayers are student initiated and led and not required by the school district, they are LEGAL. If this idiot dosen’t want to attend graduation, MAIL him his diploma. With the speed of the mails, he might get it in time in order to enter a far left university like Berkley.
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:03pmObama isn’t trying too. He is busy killing our economic liberty, not our religious liberty.
Report Post »Goldline_scam
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:17pmTalking to the imaginary sky-fairy always makes things better.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:15amDidnt Obama have a prayer led by some guy who called people mellow and yellow? Pretty sure God was brought up in that prayer
Report Post »TAXLORDCOMETH
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:47amYes, and Obama can be seen on YT videos using churches to stump for Jon Cornine’s NJ campaign, and his own campaign stop at a church (Selma AL) during the anniversary march. Isn’t it strange that Obama has never been back to celebrate the anniversary post-election? ACLU — totally silent!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:11amSick of the attacks on Christianity. I’m ready for God to deal out His judgement.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:26amhttp://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/64299/a-schultz-by-any-other-spelling/
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/schultz-family-history.ashx
research the Talmud
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:27amAnd he will.
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:24am……..”" I’m ready for God to deal out His judgement.”"……………
you have something in common with ….”".Ahmadinejad “”
Report Post »1proudAmerican
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:16amChristians who want the prayer during graduation should counter-sue. There are a lot more for it than against.
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:02pmLOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:24am
……..”” I’m ready for God to deal out His judgement.””……………
you have something in common with ….””.Ahmadinejad “”
Are you really THAT stupid, or are you just a troll? Ahmadinejad would kill YOU at the drop of the hat. We aren’t trying to silence you, no matter how ignorant or foolish you are. There are those here in the U.S. trying to use gov’t to silence us, and we have a RIGHT to practice our religion. They aren’t being hurt, they aren’t being stolen from, so what right have they to use gov’t to FORCE our silence. Unless you,…er, I mean they, only want us to be silent in public, which is SO much better.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:10pm……..”” I’m ready for God to deal out His judgement.””……………
you have something in common with ….””.Ahmadinejad “”
___________________________
Maybe so. Except I’m willing to allow God to deal it out in his own time not take it into my own hands.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:56pmJJ Coolay
” I’m ready for God to deal out His judgement.”
Amen, come Lord Jesus.
Report Post »Atheist
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:10pmlolwut
You people are obsessed with death.
The Atheist
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 12:15amDeath? Who said anything about death? Judgement ≠ death, necessarily.
I know you’re an atheist and all, but there really is no such thing as death. Physical death, yes, but your soul will live on.
Report Post »StevenL1955
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:10amDON’T BACK DOWN!!!!!
And people wonder why society has went down so low and why our country is heading towards collapse
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:15amI say that everything the ACLU and the Freedom from Religion groups do is completely unconstitutional. The net effect is that the gov’t is prohibiting the free exercise of religion as guaranteed in the first amendment and is in fact prmoting the “religion” of atheism. Everything they do prohibits our right to free exercise of religion and speech and assembly. They always want to focus on the first part of the first line of the 1st amendment and forget about the 2nd part against prohibition
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:27amI am offended every time I hear Obama Speak
Report Post »So can I sue him ?
ISeeDanger.com
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:28amWho needs God anyway???
Report Post »We have built a society and way of life bigger than him.
Everything will be fine.
http://www.ISeeDanger.com
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:43amI hope the Medina Valley Independent School District sets up a legal defense fund, so good people can help them out. This stuff MUST be stopped.
Report Post »I expect the ACLU will throw their resources behind these anti-God jerks, too.
BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:44amIt is better to obey GOD rather than man! The Bible says we ought to pray everywhere, and to pray without ceasing!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:47am@kaydeebeau,
You’ve got it exactly right. It’s time for all freedom loving Americans to take a stand and tell these clowns to take a hike, which includes these activist judges and their so-called illegal rulings. I still contend that civil disobedience of these rulings are the answer. Ignore them as there is more of us than them. Using a page out of their book against them would be real fun. When they want to enforce the immigration issues of all the illegal persons assaulting our sovereignty, maybe we might look at your crummy rulings. We have got to quite catering to an extreme minority whose only wish is to erode our constitution.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:48amSimple…have two different graduations…One for the regular people and one for the Atheist idiots….
Report Post »ByrdsofMisssouri
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:06amIf enough people started to stand up against these thugs, maybe things will change. It is time we realized who is the minority here. Jesus said, ‘Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.’ You can overcome this evil and taking God out of everything. You have rights, given by God, exercise them.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:30amWhy do the people on the Right even care about this issue.
Wasn’t it just last month there was an article here on the Blaze about schools, and almost all of you said you were home schooling or going to home school.
That’s what I thought, everyone was talking out their wahoo.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:36am@kaydeebeau – you are exactly right!
Dear God, please help us take back our country. In Jesus name; Amen.
Report Post »Bronx
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:47amRejoice always,
Pray without ceasing,
in everything give thanks; for this is the “WILL” of God in Christ Jesus for you.
Do not quench the Spirit.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-19 NKJ
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:54am@ByrdsofMisssouri
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:06am
If enough people started to stand up against these thugs, maybe things will change. It is time we realized who is the minority here. Jesus said, ‘Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.’ You can overcome this evil and taking God out of everything. You have rights, given by God, exercise them.
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Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:55amPray anyway!!!!
Report Post »SeasonOfReason
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:57amDidn’t “Jesus” say that your should keep your prayers private?
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:02amLiberals + Satan – God + Sodomey = The end of America as we know it, get ready for a one size fits all life style where theres only one car in the family and most people live in a small apartment and take transit…….Hello Europe
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:19amSeasonOfReason
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:57am
Didn’t “Jesus” say that your should keep your prayers private?
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I agree, why don’t hey just have a moment of silence and end this debate
but have the speakers say what they want …………………………………….
Buck Bagaw
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:31amThe local Church’s bell woke me up this morning, on a Sunday!! Do these religious zealouts have no respect?? Where is the ACLU when you need them?? I also need something done about my wife wasting precious eating time saying grace at meals. Seems she totally disregards the separation of church and steak.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:35amI pray where I am led of the Spirit of GOD to do so. If arrested or sued I’ll pray in court, just to piss off the actor in the black robe.
Report Post »I‘m done behaving like I’m part of this foul governments country, they are not Americas government, nor Americas laws, no, Lucifer rules the governing bodies and I’ll not serve him or his minions.
Sue me all you want, I’ve purposefully put all my assets away from me so no one can touch them, I‘ll pray where I please and you’ll have to end my life to end the prayers. In fact I plan to ask GOD to make me a prayer warrior, to go to where the say it’s disallowed and to pray loudly and boldly in their faces daily. My GOD and I are fed up.
Veritas7
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:53amthis crap is ridiculous WAKE UP!!!!!! when public schools were founded in this country the bible was taught in them. separation of church and state is not in the constitution it was in a letter written nto a baptist church and the purpose of the phrase separation of church and state was to protect the church from the long arm of the state
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:04amI agree people wonder why… Our American Education system was established to educated a clergy /ministers equally fit to lead a congregation or a civil community.Of the Colonial churches only the rare
Report Post »exception of the College of Philadelphia in PA was not legally associated with the local church.The Old Deluder Satan Law in Conn. required communities to teach youth to read the Bible in the original Greek
and Latin texts so they would not be deceived by wicked adults.The Northwest Ordinance-twice passed by Congress included Article III which declared “Religion,Morality ,and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” it was not until the revisions of Horace Mann after the Civil War that our public schools began to be encouraged to divorce Religion and Morality from the curricula -but it was not until 1940 Cantwell v. Conn. and again in 1947 when Roosevelts Court decided Everson v. Board of Education that we began down this talus slope to perdition.
TomFerrari
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:14amRegarding what Jesus said about keeping prayers private…
Jesus pointed out that the Sadducees were praying on street corners and making a show of it. They were not praying for the sake of praying, they were praying to show the Pharisees they were better than them.
This is not the same as leading a group in prayer.
I say, go ahead and pray. What can they do to stop you?
Report Post »“Blessed is he who is persecuted for my name’s sake.”
Candertwin
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:14amWe have a right to pray and exercise our rights in schools. They have a right to ignore us. Keep on praying publicly my friends. No one will stop me!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 10:21amThe solution could be as simple as giving the ones who are offended by prayer the option to leave during the prayer or by giving them ear plugs. Why should Christian students be denied prayer by the few non believers. I mean,, it‘s not like we’re blowing smoke up their nostrils, although they just might enjoy a burning fire for eternity. At least they will be staying warm.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:15am“This is settled law, and the district needs to stop resisting it.”
HA! Skrew U ACLU
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:31amNot only don’t back down. It’s time to go in the offensive. We need a conservative organization who’s sole purpose is to sue liberal organizations into the ground. Make doubt about it, they look at this as war and we should too! Conservatives will always win in the long run because liberals are naturally inferior.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:32amVery worried that way too many are backing down or just hiding their heads in the sand.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:44amIt‘s only ’settled’ in the small minds of atheists and liberals. And possibly the entire anti American cult that now resides within our own borders.
Report Post »kreese
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 1:03pmMany of us have seen this coming for a long time, but we kept electing politicians that have loaded our courts with Leftists. Add to that this PC nonsense–this is what we have.
We’ve seen the Left load up our courts with stupid cases—maybe it is time for Conservatives to load up the courts with cases that protect American tradition.
Report Post »waggie
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 4:07pmI say DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! Stand up people!
Report Post »Big Bob
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 6:02pmget the federal government out of our schools and keep it local like it is supposed to be. It is freedom of religion not freedom from religion. And there is no such thing as settled law there is just one morons opinion of what he thinks the law should be.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 7:41pmmore than don’y back down. take the fight to them . we have the facts and should user them. this is an afront to all that is decent.
why is it the left is aiding our enemies . charge them with treason then when found guilty stretch the necks.
one of our enemies states that the bulk of people are nothing but glorified herd animals and should be treated as such: use thier beliefs(religion) against then.marxist/social justice.
another of our enemies has this for a motto: :first Saturday then Sunday hen allah will return.” I hope you don’t need this further explained.
Report Post »underthehill
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 8:43pmGod Bless America Again.
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 9:05pm@I SEEDANGER
Report Post »Are YOU EVER MIXED UP!!!!!
Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 29, 2011 at 11:50pmCommunist goal #28
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Report Post »BJColter Country Music Iconoclast
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:31amI went to the ACLU when I got arrested for preaching in Philadelphia. Guess what they said? Fight the fight, brothers and sisters. You in Texas show up to these hearings, show your support for GOD. Here’s a song about it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqdufoUASMc
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 3:50pmAnd the 1st Amendment only applies to liberal progressives?
Report Post »Atheist
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:00pmI don’t wonder why, I know why the quality of our population has dipped so dramatically: Stupid people have more children — and then they try to shove their religion into places where it doesn’t belong.
Western Civilization is better because of secularism, not Christianity.
The Atheist
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