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U.S. Paid $50,000 for Each Afghan Killed in Shooting Rampage

U.S. Paid $50,000 for Each Afghan Killed in Shooting Rampage

A woman gestures to the body of her grandchild, killed in an alleged shooting rampage by a U.S. service member in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. (AP)

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) — The United States has paid $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed and $11,000 for each person wounded in the shooting spree allegedly committed by a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan, an Afghan official and a community elder said Sunday.

The sums, much larger than typical payments made by the U.S. to families of civilians killed in military operations in Afghanistan, come as the U.S. tries to mend relations following the killing rampage that has threatened to undermine the international effort here.

Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales is accused of sneaking off his base on March 11, then creeping into houses in two nearby villages and opening fire on families as they slept.

U.S. investigators believe the gunman returned to his base after the first attack and later slipped away to kill again, American officials have said. Bales has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder and other crimes and could face the death penalty if convicted.

That would seem to support the U.S. government’s assertion – contested by some Afghans – that the shooter acted alone, since the killings would have been perpetrated over a longer period of time than assumed when Bales was detained outside his base in Kandahar province’s Panjwai district.

But it also raises new questions about how the suspect could have carried out the pre-dawn attacks without drawing attention from any Americans on the base.

The families of the dead, who received the money Saturday at the governor’s office, were told that the money came from U.S. President Barack Obama, said Kandahar provincial council member Agha Lalai. He and community elder Jan Agha confirmed the payout amounts.

Survivors previously had received smaller compensation payments from Afghan officials – $2,000 for each death and $1,000 for each person wounded.

Two U.S. officials confirmed that compensation had been paid but declined to discuss exact amounts, saying only that it reflected the devastating nature of the incident. The officials spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the subject.

A spokesman for NATO and U.S. forces, Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings, said only that coalition members often make compensation payments, but they are usually kept private.

“As the settlement of claims is in most cases a sensitive topic for those who have suffered loss, it is usually a matter of agreement that the terms of the settlement remain confidential,” Cummings said.

However, civilian death compensations are occasionally made public. In 2010, U.S. troops in Helmand province said they paid $1,500-$2,000 for a death and $600-$1,500 for a serious injury.

The provided compensation figures would mean that at least $866,000 was paid out in all. Afghan officials and villagers have counted 16 dead – 12 in the village of Balandi and four in neighboring Alkozai – and six wounded. The U.S. military has charged Bales with 17 murders without explaining the discrepancy.

The 38-year-old soldier, who is from Lake Tapps, Washington, is accused of using his 9mm pistol and M-4 rifle, which was outfitted with a grenade launcher, to kill four men, four women, two boys and seven girls, then burning some of the bodies. The ages of the children were not disclosed in the charge sheet.

Bales is being held in a military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. The mandatory minimum sentence if he is convicted is life imprisonment with the chance of parole. He could also receive the death penalty.

Families of the dead declined to comment on any payments by U.S. officials on Sunday, but some said previously that they were more concerned about seeing the perpetrator punished than money.

Kandahar is the birthplace of the Taliban and remains a dangerous area despite several offensives.

In the latest violence, a bomb struck a joint NATO-Afghan foot patrol in Kandahar’s Arghandab district late Saturday, killing nine Afghans and one international service member, according to Shah Mohammad, the district administrator.

Arghandab is a farming region just outside Kandahar city that has long provided refuge for Taliban insurgents. It was one of a number of communities around Kandahar city that were targeted in a 2010 sweep to oust the insurgency from the area.

The Afghan dead included one soldier, three police officers, four members of the Afghan “local police” – a government-sponsored militia force – and one translator, Mohammad said.

NATO reported earlier Sunday that one of its service members was killed in a bomb attack in southern Afghanistan on Saturday but did not provide additional details. It was not clear if this referred to the same incident, as NATO usually waits for individual coalition nations to confirm the details of deaths of their troops.

Comments (149)

  • youdidthis
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:30am

    so…, this soldier was able to kill 12 people in one town ,hump and jump to another village kill some more people, all while nobody in the us military notices…?
    now the soldier remembers nothing…?

    mass rush to conviction and payout…
    cover up a plenty happening here.

    how many mercs and paid contractors we have in afghan…?

    women and children killed…?
    sounds more like a s e x party gone bad…
    CIA Ordered POWs Murdered. Tax Funded Organized Crime.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tpl0Eip3qc
    Bob Chapman: Kissinger & the Bushes Are Famous Pedophiles
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8-Gzy-Qcs&feature=related

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  • arx
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:29am

    Vance. Are you trying to say that government money isn’t spread around liberal institutions, or that ACORN never received a dime of taxpayer money? And all the people working at ACORN just moved to Cuba or decided to start a private sector business and pay taxes. Who is the dumbass?

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  • randy
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:19am

    @ARX I lost an uncle in Iraq and a cousin in Afganistan and I will not shed a single tear for any of these animals. Men, women or children. What I have done though, which I regret, is wasting my time with you.

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    • arx
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:36am

      Randy. I am truly sorry for your family’s loss. I have had several family members serve there and a good friend is there now. I thank God nobody I know has been hurt.

      That said, can’t you see that dehumanizing any group of people, especially women and children, is taking the same road that Hitler, Stalin and others like them? There is no justification for the murder of noncombatants. Can one make the argument that many or most will grow up to hate and try and kill us? Probably. But my priorities are God, family, and country..in that order. Don’t allow hate to destroy your humanity.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:18am

    @ARX I don‘t use my granddaughter or anyone else’s child or grandchildren for shields. How `bout you? Occupy much in your lifetime?????

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    • Crazy Times
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 5:28pm

      @ Kick,

      if you are part of the occupy movement, in time you will be using your relatives as shields, in one way or another….

      good luck with that!

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  • VanceUppercut
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:04am

    @arx

    I know that very little ever gets through the conservative bubble, but maybe you could spread the word among your “patriot” friends that ACORN no longer exists. This is a fact. You’re a dumbass. That is an assumption.

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  • conservativestoner
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:01am

    ok,so is that a fine or reward or something?if it is, i’m willing to do for a heck of alot less.i’ll even supply my own ammo.just because i like you,i’ll even show you how to secure the border in one day.this may require some assistance,ammo&personnel….any volunteers?

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    • youdidthis
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:15am

      asked for volunteers 20 yrs ago…no help.
      asked for volunteers last year …no help.

      good luck with that.

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:55am

    I do not believe the lying left media on ANY story ! Heard about 10 minutes of NPR this morning – included Stanberg speaking in snippy tones about 71 year OLD Cheney being given a heart transplant . Then a shot at Margaret Thatcher who was the subject of a “ hilarious ” Mockumentary . Oh, the Media Manipulating Left ! Especially galling on NPR which gets our tax money to brainwash Americans with their Lefty propaganda…..

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  • RodT82721
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:55am

    I wonder what those ladies in Detroit, that were out in the street, waiting for some of Obama’s stash will think about him donating his stash to Afghans? Oh wait – it really isn’t Obama bucks, it’s just tax payer money. Never mind.

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    • HappyHaloHousewife
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:39am

      I’m glad you noticed that too. “The money came from President Barack Obama”. God forbid he shouldn’t get credit for *blessing* these families with his sacred funds. Boiling here.

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    • maccow
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:54am

      The article says the victims were told that the money came from Barak Obama. I’m not sure how I feel about that statement. On the one hand if the money represents an honest offering of contrition and heart felt remorse for what can only be considered murder, then shouldn’t it have been given on behalf of the American people? If the money is a forgiveness offering then why is Obama trying to personally reap the hoped for absolution?
      On the other hand I don’t see as many Americans, at least not many on this site, who would want their names associated with the perception of guilt by association that comes along with this blood money pay-off. Let Obama take personal responsibility for the conditions that may have led to this tragedy and let him take upon himself the guilt of murder by association.
      In the end he may be looking to have it both ways. Giving this money in the name of Obama, rather than in the name of the American people may allow him to personally reap any possible good will derived from this pay-off while still leaving the American people and not himself guilty in the end. I can here obama saying, “here, let me apologize and make amends for what those horrible americans did to you.”
      If I saw the presidency as a spring board to a future world leadership position, I would want to make myself appear to be separate from and above the actions of this country.

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    • Tigress1
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:23pm

      Who gave Obama a checkbook?

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:46am

    in other news hassan also known as the fort hood shooter has never even been charged. but this accused shooter is already charged with guilt presumed as we are paying off victims.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:02am

      And ‘o’ is trying to buy the love of the Afgan people.
      As the Beatles sung: “Money can’t buy me love…”

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    • gamboolman
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:09am

      Did these victims get the same amt of money?

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    • 13th Generation American
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:22am

      Liar

      On February 2, 2012 a military judge ruled that Hasan will stand trial on June 12, 2012. Lt.Col. Kris Poppe, Hasan’s lead attorney, said the request to delay the trial was “purely a matter of necessity of adequate time for pretrial preparation”. The prosecution is seeking the death penalty.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Dan Foster says most of your 13 generations were thieves and pickpockets. Now you take up the family legacy of being a TAKER in society.

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:44am

    Oh look we have up-graded to apologizing-with/benefits mode .
    HOW NICE..! Now they will taunt us… get killed .. Then get money .
    To buy more bomb vest. Nice cycle .
    What a bunch of bunk.
    BRING ALL OUR BOYS/GIRLS HOME ….AND
    Then drop a bunch of baseball bats ..
    so they can beat each other to death with them.

    I’m so sick of this double standard PC bull..!!!

    BTW …HOW’S THE VICTIMS OF THE FORT HOOD SHOOTING …DOING..!

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  • Weatherboy
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:40am

    I would have given them each a $10 bill and told them to get back into their tents. Better yet, how about we just nuke that whole Effin country back before the stone age, since that’s where they still are. Then we should give that soldier “The Nobel Peace” prize instead of Obama and Al Gore. Better yet, how about we just nuke every single Arab and Muslim country off the face of the earth. They are all dangerous to the rest of the world.

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    • randy
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:44am

      Reminds me of that old Joke:

      Why don’t you see any muslims on Star Trek?
      Because it’s the future silly, there aren’t any muslims in the future.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:01am

      @Weatherboy

      So, you say we should give a Nobel Peace Prize to a murderer of children and defrauder of old folk, and nuke millions of men, women and children out of existence, all the while claiming that they are the violent savages?

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    • iamtheWALRUS
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:34pm

      How very Christian of you.

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  • pwatkins
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:38am

    We have no proof yet that an American killed these people, only the word of Afhagan officials that claim they saw Bales sneak out. If he was seen sneaking out with these weapons why did they not stop him. This makes no sense and I still believe it is a set up. I think they killed their own and I wouldn’t doubt Obama knows it. What country is Obama from that he thinks we should pay out money like this before we even know if one of ours is guilty.

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    • 13axes
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:54am

      I do not trust this administration or it’s propaganda arm,the main stream media.How could he kill once,return to the base,and the do it again later?I do not believe this story for one minute.how could he have done all that without anyone hearing it,sounds more like a Rambo movie,9mm pistol,m-4 rifle,grenade launchers,fires started.lets face it,this place is dead quiet at night.do people slip into a sleep-coma at night in Afghanistan.My BS meter is off the charts,it all seems a little too convenient.

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    • iamtheWALRUS
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Proof? There were witnesses. A disgruntled soldier going on a massacre makes much more sense than a Afghan tribe killing its own for…. what reason?

      Loosen the tin foil; I think its cutting off circulation.

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:31am

    More of that Global Redistribution of American taxpayers’ wallet. The New World Order.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:38am

      obama money.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:50am

      RULER: agree. The Democrats drain our wallets globally and domestically. Love the waste of tax money at the Occupies – the Obama Campaign Mob.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:40am

      Oh what’s the big deal, you and your ilk have been redistributing my family’s wealth to other states for well over a century now. Ninety-nine percent of people didn’t have serious issues with it until lately.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:45am

      Stealing is stealing! If it gets redistributed to other cities, counties, or states, it’s still stealing. So surely it doesn’t matter if they steal it to give to the world.

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  • randy
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:16am

    Now aren’t these the same people who were dancing in the streets when people met their death at the two towers? I saw the heII with them. Give them a bag of skittles and a hoodie. Just curious how much our Gov’t pays the family members of one of our brave fallen soldiers?

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    • TruthSeeker11111
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:29am

      Excellent point. We cannot forget that Barry the anti-American treasonous fraud is an enemy within.

      He hates Our Beloved Men and Women in uniform protecting us. He and the enemies within on both sides are desperately trying to destroy America. They will not succeed!

      Oneday Barry would love to be the DICTATOR of the 58th m u s l i m state.

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    • coachsmac
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:46am

      Yes it is, to hell with them the more we kill now the less we have to fight in the future. Their is no reasoning or reaching an accord with them, it is either we are killed or they are no middle ground and here The President of the US pays them, did anyone see any one of these animals giving any support to the thousands of American Families that lost loved ones? I think not. Either pull our troops out from their and let them kill each other or turn ourn troops loose and let the dogs of war eat!!!

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    • 3monkeysmomma
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:24pm

      Let me tell you how we treat our people. My cousin was a Sgt. in the US Army National Guard. A few years ago she suffered a serious fall and was knocked unconcious during a training excercise. When she reported she was having cognitive problems afterwards, they didn’t believe her until last year when she began having epilectic seizures. Now she can’t work, can’t drive, can’t be left alone at all. She and her child are living in her parents living room, practically homeless, and the military won’t give her disability.

      I come from a family with a long military tradition, but I will fight my sons ever joining because the way we treat our soldiers is shameful!

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  • fatsomann
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:14am

    What the ????? This doesn’t even make sense. What are we doing? Color me stunned. I feel like have just fallen down the rabbit hole.

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    • iamtheWALRUS
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:38pm

      What doesn’t make sense? Our government is trying to diffuse this incident by compensating these families. Or do you think they deserved to die?

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:14am

    It doesn’t bother anyone that it is very likely that these payments are going to the very people who planted the bomb a day earlier? How many more bombs will this money fund?

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  • Abraham Young
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:14am

    What a tangled web we weave.

    Are you all glad now, that we are over there, spreading American wealth?

    RON PAUL knows the Constitution. YOU don’t. plain and simple.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:41am

      Ron Paul, a man of forward-looking ideas…such as the gold standard. rofl

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:56am

      Yeah you’re right YOUNG, Paul is one of the “nanner, nanner, nanner” types who relishes this kind of stuff for his cowardly neo-lib anti-war, Code-Pink mantra. Ron Paul couldn’t even temper his Constitutional remarks about the Ground Zero Mosque and show some intelligence and compassion for his countrymen/women who lost everything on 9/11. Ron Paul is as dangerous to this country as Obama.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:08am

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Hey, how did all that “Ground Zero Mosque” (which is neither at ground zero, or a mosque) protesting work out for you? What is that, it’s gonna be built anyway? Oh, sucks for you.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:20am

      VANCE. The fact remains… regardless of outcome… and I know its tough for Ron Paul acolytes to understand much like Paul’s foreign policy kindred spirits, liberals… to place a moral judgment on anything, but out of respect for 9/11′s grieving families, it would have been nice if he’d granted them some deference on that emotionally supercharged, morally reprehensible issue. It would also be refreshing if he’d actually given our country the benefit of the doubt, instead of “blaming it” for the existence of a so-called religion that preaches death to infidels, practices pedophilia, commits unspeakable crimes against women, and actively engages in a worldwide, genocidal movement with the ultimate goal of imposing a worldwide Muslim Caliphate.

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    • saf
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:28am

      time_2 your about retarded. If you think stopping our own troops from being killed in a useless war that has nothing to do with is dangerous to the USA, then i feel sorry for you. Ron Paul wants to stop all the war we have been in since Korea. Let other countries other than our most vital allies fall and rise of their own accord. We should not being telling other countries what to do when we don’t even have our own house in order(secured border, non-citizen president, blatantly corrupt government, and communist in cong/ senate office). If you think someone willing to run this great nation of ours by the laws set forth by the constitution and bill of rights is dangerous, i pity you, pity you all.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:38am

      SAF. “Retarded” must be the new word of the day on here from the Ron Paul summer camp of D- students at the Ron Paul Camp for foreign policy progressives. Have seen the word “retarded” twice now by Ron Paul acolytes. Lol. What else did you write?

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:05pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Speaking of the Constitution…Ron taught you an important lesson didn’t he? lol

      Also, speaking of acolytes…aren’t you one for Glenn? A Becker? Funny how you Beckers chant “Constitution”, “smaller limited government”, yet support candidates who are opposed to those ideas…nice.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:22pm

      IAN. Ron Paul has taught all clear thinking Americans one very LARGE lesson over time. That he would rather regurgitate Bin Laden’s, Al-Qaeda’s, radical Islams‘s and Rearend Reverend Wright’s words regarding our nation. That‘s all the lesson the majority of America needs and has needed to marginalize one of America’s shadow enemies… Ron Paul.

      But I DO like to point out all the other anti-American drivel that Ron Paul has spouted over the years…

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:34pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Paul has never spouted anything anti American nor anything anti military. Maybe this is why he receives more in military donations than ANY other candidate. That should speak volumes.

      Now why did Ron vote ‘nay’ on amendment 318 Time? Yeah thought so to.

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    • martinez012577
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:48pm

      @vance

      You are a moron and listening to people like Bill on issues like this is just a bad idea. The old standard for the gold standard doesnt work, but competing currencies would work.

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    • martinez012577
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 2:10pm

      @time

      Man its actually really sad to see who blind most Americans are. We are 16 trillion in debt and the GOP puts three candidates up against Obama who put out budgets that dont cut one dollar from current spending. Does that make sense?

      As far as Ron Paul’s foreign policy, I dont believe there is any real threat from any outside force to this country. We destroying ourselves from the inside. Did you watch the Glenn’s show on Fox? If you did you will notice a recurring theme, he would show people in their own words. I believe that. So why shouldnt we have listened to Osama Bin Laden in 1998 when he said our actions of killing 100 thousand children in our occupation of Iraq and our continued presence in Saudi Arabia made him to decide to declare war on the United States. Not listening was stupid and caused many deaths. Our continued presence in foreign lands will cause of death at home. You are either ignoring facts or you are stupid. Which is it?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw&feature=related Here is the Bin Laden CBS interview for your education.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 4:34pm

      IAN. Writing the ruse that Paul gets more Military donations over and over again doesn’t make it so, but you already know that. That easily perpetrated internet con-game by non-Military Paul zeolots has been debunked… but go ahead and keep writing if it makes you feel good.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 4:54pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Ruse? Are you telling me that Campaign Finance Institute and Open Secrets are lying? Go ahead and provide the ‘proof’ as you call it. I did. Go look it up will ya?

      LOL…who’s the conspiracy theorist you pirate?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 4:58pm

      MARTINEZ. “I think Ron Paul has a remarkable position when it comes to U.S. foreign policy.”
      ~~ Medea Benjamin ~~

      You and this gal ‘ought start an organization and call it Code-pink or something… lol. The rest of what you have to write is more of the same pacifist Ron Paul shilling which only gets kudos with other pacifist Ron Paul shills when you call our Military murderers of children. You also need to check your Bin Laden talking points along with the rest of your story regarding Iraq and dates…

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    • saf
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 5:24pm

      time_2 Ron Paul is not a pacifist. He just thinks we shouldn’t go off to fight “preventive wars”. He has always said that if it is a true threat to the USA. Then we go in take care of the threat and come home. Not stay and rebuild and keep troops there. We did just that in all the way up until WW2. Korea and Vietnam was the start of our interference around the world. And every time we stick our noses in something we get the shafted. We put Saddam Hus-an in power, and look what we got in return.

      So if you could stop from drooling all over Pres. ****** Oloser and his ilk you might wake up to whats really going on. Other wise Oloser and the Builder-burgs, Soros, and the others are going to outright rig the Election. Which might cause civil unrest, which will allow the new law Oloser just signed to happen(Marshal Law). so climb out from under the Oloser desk and look at whats really going on.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 7:54pm

      IAN. The short answer is… there is flawed and incomplete (easily manipulable) records and anecdotal evidence regarding the Ron Paul donation ruse. I‘ve detailed this many times on here how that was done by Ron Paul ’s over-zealous disciples. You are late to the party. Go back and research any and all topics where I may have shown this to be true. Fact is… you are not worthy of me writing this out one more time. When you become worthy…

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:13am

    We should just pay Trayvon’s family 50 grand and call it even.

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:12am

    “The Afghan dead included one soldier, three police officers, four members of the Afghan “local police” – a government-sponsored militia force – and one translator, Mohammad said.”

    Ah ha! Now we see the shooter actually did target specific people who were involved in the day-earlier roadside bombing. Such a concentration of local authority figures in the casualty numbers was not a coincidence.

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    • randy
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:17am

      Sounds like justified payback to me.

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    • arx
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:22am

      Killing small children is “justified payback”?? What kind of sick SOB are you? You would have fit right into Hitler’s crowd.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:30am

      Perhaps he killed the children .. perhaps not. These peope use their children as shields .. they value NO human life.

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    • randy
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:41am

      @CATB….
      And get off your high horse…. In 7,8, 9 or 10 years, that child you’re crying for, would have had a bomb strapped to his chest, and wouldn’t have thought twice about cutting your head off.
      Wake up you Maroon.
      And what’s with the “Marine Emblem” as your Avatar? If you’re the best we have in the Marines, Air Force, Navy or Army we’re scr@wed. I know Obama is trying to fill the ranks of our service members with thugs, gang members and idiots like you. Looks like he hit a Home Run with you.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:44am

      @randy
      It is a fact that he also killed children, and even though the OP conveniently left this part out, it would be safe to assume you are aware of this fact. So when you say it was “justifiable homicide” one could reasonably conclude that your sentiment extends to all of the victims, not just the ones that the OP cherry picked. And yes, I’m going to go abort some fetuses.

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    • randy
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:50am

      Sorry CATB, that last post was for ARX, not you.

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    • arx
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:51am

      Randyboy. Earlier you said:

      “Now aren’t these the same people who were dancing in the streets when people met their death at the two towers? I saw the heII with them. Give them a bag of skittles and a hoodie. Just curious how much our Gov’t pays the family members of one of our brave fallen soldiers?”

      And then you follow that up with “…sounds like justified payback.” So which is justified? Paying the 50G or the soldier killing civilians? Maybe I assumed facts in error, but your point appeared fairly clear to any reasonable person. If you bothered to read any of my posts, you would know I’m a long time blazer, conservative, and would no more associate with huffpo than Rush Limbaugh.

      Maybe you ought to get your mind and facts straight before you open your piehole.

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    • randy
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:57am

      @ARX Oh a Ron Paul fan, that explains it.

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    • arx
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:03am

      Randy says: “@ARX Oh a Ron Paul fan, that explains it”

      Wrong again girlyman. You just keep making erroneous assumptions. I like Ron Paul on civil liberties and small government, but he has some cooky ideas about national security/defense. At this point I would go with Gingrich. Who is your man? (and I don’t mean after the lights go out on Saturday night…please spare us that)

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  • arx
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:12am

    Really? What if that was your little dead granddaughter lying there? Least we could do. What’s BS is the people being told it was from Obamao, and not the American people. I’d rather the money go to these people than some union cronies of Obama or ACORN.

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  • momrules
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:09am

    Another reason to blame the American military for these deaths………….money.
    I have been saying do not trust the Afgan civilians or the Afgan soldiers to tell the truth. I much prefer that the truth about Sgt. Bales and these killings to be revealed with a through investigation and a trial.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:14am

      MOM – do not count on it ( the truth) coming out. This will be buried so deep we will never know what happened. Just like Ft. Hood; unless ‘o’ thinks there is some political gain to it; like say ‘u.n.’ presidency.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:40am

      Stoi One …………So you’re saying OB could be the next UN president.?……..what a bummer!!

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 5:49pm

      War is hell. Many many years ago, I had many conversations with soldiers that fought in Nam. I would never repeat these stories & I will go to my grave with my mouth shut…what happened in Nam, stays in Nam. War is hell. I don’t know what happened in Afg…only what needs to be reported…it is what it is?
      God Bless Our Military!
      God Bless America! Land that I love!

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  • Speak without Fear
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:09am

    OUTRAGEOUS absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.

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  • CatB
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:08am

    How much are the Afghans paying our military families for those killed by Afghan troops or the Taliban? I didn’t think so.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:14am

      @CatB

      That is a retarded statement. Just…I don’t know…leave the Internet.

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    • momrules
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:31am

      Actually Vanceuppercu, Catb has a point. The families of soliders that have been murdered by their socalled allies should be compensated by the Afgans. Why not? Dont you believe in fairness?

      I do get so sick of the name calling, non thinking people who come on the web to voice an opinion but tell others to get off the internet for not having an opinion they agree with.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 6:01pm

      @arx

      Agree!

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:07am

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh That will make it all better. Thanks for taking my tax dollars and fixing that boo boo…

    Bring our troops home and let the Muslim Civil War begin….

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  • hi
    Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:04am

    Wow. At first I thought what an insult to be paid for the death of your precious child. But, then when I saw that the US Soldier death payments were 50 times less, I thought that was even worse.

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    • arx
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:18am

      While I agree that the families of fallen serviceman should be much better taken care of, the difference here is that these are children murdered by an American serviceman. I don’t have a problem with this. Looking at that dead little girl breaks my heart.

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