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‘Unconstitutional’?: Atheists Target High School Coach for Allowing Churches to Feed Football Players

FFRF Complains to Ridgeland High School About Church Involvement With Football Team

Ridgeland High School Panthers Football Logo (Photo Credit: Facebook)

The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), an atheist activist group based in Madison, Wisconsin, is taking a football coach to task, claiming that he violated the First Amendment by allowing local churches to prepare meals for team members. The organization sent a letter to Walker County Schools in LaFayette, Georgia, demanding that officials immediately investigate Mark Mariakis, the Ridgeland High School coach.

While the atheists want an examination into alleged pre-game foods that churches purportedly prepared for the players, the FFRF also addressed claims that Coach Mariakis prayed with the football players, used Bible verses in motivational speeches and on team shirts and took part on the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, a faith-based organization.

According to the FFRF, a local individual complained about the food that the teens are given on game days. The group also said that a minister typically delivers remarks to the players that focus upon Christianity as well — another violation that has the activists fired up.

“Taking public school football teams to church, even for a meal, is unconstitutional,” FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel wrote in a letter to the district. “This program is an egregious violation of the Establishment Clause and must cease immediately.”

FFRF Complains to Ridgeland High School About Church Involvement With Football Team

Team members praying (Photo Credit: Facebook)

Walker County school officials released a statement claiming that they received the letter and are reviewing its claims. Richie White, youth director at Chattanooga Valley Baptist Church, one of the houses of worship that provides meals to the team, voiced his surprise over the FFRF’s complaint.

“It would be interesting to see what part of the Constitution we violated by simply offering a meal to fellow Americans. These are kids from our area that we do love and we do care about,” White explained.

“We as Christians don’t force our religion on anyone,” he added.

As is typically the case with FFRF scenarios, the individual complaining about the practice is currently remaining anonymous. While it may be a parent, it could very well be a student who finds him or herself uncomfortable with church involvement with the team.

The team’s official Facebook page doesn’t mention the FFRF directly (although an article about the controversy was shared with the teams fans), but on Wednesday, an image of the team praying and a separate post reading, “Yes we pray. Who doesn’t? We aren’t afraid to show that we love God!,” was published.

(H/T: FOX News Radio)

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:25am

    This does not fall under the Establishment Clause.
    If the atheists were attempting to do the same thing and denied the opportunity to feed the players and encourage them, they would have a weak arguement to play games with. But I didn’t here anything about being denied any such opportunity. Atheists do little or nothing but complain about others doing something for someone other than themselves. When are we going to stop letting the fools of this country’s population have their way and make us all look like fools? Every day I see more evidence that the insane are taking over the assylum…………..

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:44am

      It just occured to me that since this deal has been brought to light by these freaks, that the local secular government will likely shut down the meals for lack of “proper” licensing/permits, zoning and food regulation. Maybe even fine the church or churches involved, and/or haul someone off to jail.

      Welcome to Communist America!

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:15pm

      If the churches provided the food without any religious stuff at all then I wouldn’t care. BUT! Here is the problem: “Taking public school football teams to church, even for a meal, is unconstitutional,” FFRF
      They are right. It is unfair to have students go to certain churches. They also pray, use bible verse, and send a christian message in a school program. This is what they are fighting and they have my support.
      How would you feel if they all went to a Muslim Mosque, all preyed to Allah toward Mecca, and tried to make them Muslims? It would discriminate against those that are not muslim, make them feel uncomfortable, and cause some not to play. Indoctrination is not what the school should do.

      Everyone has the right to freedom of religion and FROM religion. This violates both. The food is not the problem.

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    • DarkJello
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:23pm

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

      FFRF is wrong yet again, at least according to these english words.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:26pm

      @Randy Hamlet

      I guess I missed the part where the players were FORCED to attend or FORCED to stay.

      There is no “indoctrination”.
      In an effort to be polite, I will just say that you are gullable if not just silly.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:38pm

      If Muslims offered me a sandwich, I’d take it. If they invited me to their sermon or whatever they call it, I’d go as a guest. Though I wouldn’t partake in their form of praying on their knees toward Mecca, as that is not my God nor my prophet they are worshiping.

      FFRF can no longer differentiate hospitality from indoctrination. The way they see it, everything a church does is wrong, and any outreach beyond their property should be cut off, even charity as is this case.

      FFRF’s original mission has been clouded by animosity, and befuddled by wrath.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:41pm

      This is a PUB-O-LIC school. No religion. That simple. To say they don’t have to stay is wrong! What if your christian children could not play on a football team because they all require the students to pray to Mecca, wear Islamic things, go to Mosques and all this stuff. You would FIGHT anything Islamic in your school. You would fight so that your children could play a sport without being muslim. Thats the difference here. Its your religion and not anyone else’s.

      Thanks for quoting the first amendment. We now know making homosexual marriage illegal is unconstitutional because it is a religious Christian law.

      You can not push your christian faith on anyone using government property, money, and employees. Go to your own private schools if it is that big of a deal to you.

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    • RobbieTLHughie
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:41pm

      I would respectfully ask this website to stop saying atheists and say FFRF, they DO NOT support what most atheists support, they are a crazy organization. Thank you.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:48pm

      They are not a crazy organization. If you look into this story what the school team does is in fact unconstitutional. They are putting Christianity in the football team. It isn’t about the free food. Its about the prayer, bible, and going to the church. Going to the church itself isn’t all that bad, the christian message is. The school can NOT push it on anyone. Thats whats going on.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:55pm

      @Randy Hamlet

      When I posted that the players are not, “FORCED to stay”, it’s clear to everyone else that I was refering to the gatherings. They are not FORCED, HELD CAPTIVE or INDOCTRINATED. Context is everything, doofus.

      I would tell you what to do with that chip on your shoulder, but I’m still trying to be polite……

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:00pm

      A church feeding these kids and the atheists complain is as STUPID as anything I’ve ever heard.
      Get those God forsaken losers out of our country and somewhere the can ruin stupid people like themselves.
      This is a Christian Nation, atheists need not apply.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:02pm

      Randy Hamlet, if you don’t like the coach, don’t play. If you don’t like the practice, don’t play. If you don’t like the language, don’t play. If you don’t like where they eat and what they say, don’t play.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:04pm

      Rational, your passive-aggressive techniques are annoying (“trying to be polite”). I have no chip on any shoulder. This is indoctrination. This is pushing religion in a school. This is not fair to the non christians. How can you possibly claim that it is fair to do this. It will just make the people who do not believe and do not pray feel left out, unaccepted, and these beliefs are pushed on them. No prayer in school. To bad. If students decide to do it without any facility whatsoever they can. But the coach cant be there praying and telling them to pray.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:06pm

      Randy Hamlet: “What if your christian children could not play on a football team because they all require the students to pray to Mecca, wear Islamic things, go to Mosques and all this stuff. You would FIGHT anything Islamic in your school.”

      Fact is, Jews are the ones fighting, not Muslims. Jews have been anti-Christian from the beginning. Jews use the courts as their force multiplier. Jews use their wealth force multipliers.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:09pm

      No its not a don’t play thing. That is oppression by the majority. And this is NOT a christian nation. Go read the Treaty of Tripoli. This is a SECULAR nation. And again. It is NOT about food. It is about the bible and prayer being forced on the players.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:10pm

      Randy Hamlet: ” This is indoctrination. This is pushing religion in a school. This is not fair to the non christians.”

      First, they are not in school. Football is not mandatory. School is. When a school pushes the homosexual lifestyle as an alternative lifestyle, that’s forced indoctrination.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:19pm

      There really is no point in arguing with someone like you. Bigotry is wrong.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:20pm

      “That is oppression by the majority.”

      RANDY, my man, they claim that majority rules. sure, the Constitution was designed explicitly to protect the rights of the minorities, but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good Bible thumping session.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:30pm

      Randy Hamlet, truly liberal. Quit when facts prove you wrong. Use a label when you can not use facts or truth. Dimwits galore.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Phillyatheist, you’ve not made one factual or substantive point. Don’t you find your last statement rather foolish knowing this fact?

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Hahhaah jerk dude. Show me the facts you have used xD wow

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:38pm

      I have to go back to a comment made in my original post,
      When are we going to stop letting the minority fools of this country’s population have their way and make us all look like fools?

      I have had it with all the talk of hurting some atheists feelings when they obviously don’t care about anyone but themselves. “Waa!..I’m a minority intellectually……Waa! Nobody caters to me and thinks the way I do……Waa!….I want everyone to think like me and think about ME….”

      I don’t see Christians suing and attacking atheists all the time. Why is that? Could it be that we leave people alone that don’t agree with us? Unlike atheists, that have to pitch a fit and try to misuse the Constitution. Why don’t atheists do things for others like this church did for these students. Seems to me right there is a good example of why Christianity is better than the worthless atheists that just complain about the ones who are doing good things. Where are the atheist operated soup lines, homeless shelters, child care programs, worldwide humanitarian programs like clean water, housing,food, and saving little ones from sex slavers. “I‘m not doing any good for anybody and those darn Christians shouldn’t do anything either!!!” I’m sick of you crybabies. As a group, you contribute little to nothing to society. All you do is whine and cause trouble.

      Whew!….I feel better now……………….

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:45pm

      “I don’t see Christians suing and attacking atheists all the time. Why is that? ”

      maybe b/c there isn’t anything to sue us over. please cite for me an alleged violation against the Constitution that you would sue an Atheist group for.

      although you do sue Public schools to try to get Creationism/ID into Science class, and you ALWAYS lose.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:58pm

      “although you do sue Public schools to try to get Creationism/ID into Science class, and you ALWAYS lose.”

      Perfect example of the hypocracy!!….Thank you!

      Stupid people always make a point against themselves in an arguement….he he he he,,,,,

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 2:15pm

      The irony in this xD Lawl.

      Atheist provide, lets see:
      Modern medicine, modern physics, computers, technology, Facebook… Just about anything science.

      Life saving GMOs that have prevented over a billion people from starving.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 2:41pm

      LOL!!….Really?
      You think only atheists are envolved with those endeavors? That is hilarious!

      Facebook,….FACEBOOK!?! You consider facebook an important contribution to mankind??

      Yea, all Christians and Jews do is sit around doing nothing.
      http://www.jinfo.org/
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science

      Global Jewish population is approximately
      > 14,000,000 Only FOURTEEN MILLION or
      > about 0.02% of the world’s
      > population. They have received the
      > following Nobel
      > Prizes: Literature: 1910
      > – Paul Heyse 1927 – Henri
      > Bergson 1958 – Boris
      > Pasternak 1966 – Shmuel Yosef
      > Agnon 1966 – Nelly
      > Sachs 1976 – Saul
      > Bellow 1978 – Isaac Bashevis
      > Singer 1981 – Elias
      > Canetti 1987 – Joseph
      > Brodsky 1991 – Nadine Gordimer
      > World Peace: 1911 –
      > Alfred Fried 1911 – Tobias Michael
      > Carel Asser 1968 – Rene
      > Cassin 1973 – Henry
      > Kissinger 1978 – Menachem
      > Begin 1986 – Elie
      > Wiesel 1994 – Shimon
      > Peres 1994 – Yitzhak
      > Rabin Physics: 1905
      > – Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 – Henri
      > Moissan 1907 – Albert Abraham
      > Michelson 1908 – Gabriel
      > Lippmann 1910 – Otto
      > Wallach 1915 – Richard
      > Willstaetter 1918 – Fritz
      > Haber 1921 – Albert
      > Einstein 1922 – Niels
      > Bohr 1925 – James
      > Franck 1925 – Gustav
      > Hertz 1943 – Gustav
      > Stern 1943 – George Charles de
      > Hevesy 1944 – Isidor Issac
      > Rabi 1952 – Felix Bloch 1954
      > – Max Born 1958 – Igor
      Not enough room for all of th

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    • Atrum Angelis
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 2:46pm

      “Atheists do little or nothing but complain” – Militant athiests do. The rest of us don’t care. These aren’t “kids”, their in high school. I’m sure they can think for themselves. I’d go for the free food. I don’t have to convert. Just thank the hosts for their hospitality and continue playing football.
      I certainly don’t care if a church gives these kids lunch, or a watertower in a town has a cross on it, or a waterpark wants to give church groups a discount. It’s no skin off my back. NONE of these things affect me. Just live and let live.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 2:50pm

      As I posted earlier, stupid people will always poke themselves in the eye in an arguement that they can’t win.

      Proverbs 12:1
      Whoever loves dicipline loves knowledge,
      but whoever hates correction is stupid

      “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”
      George Washington

      “The Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations.”
      John Adams

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:12pm

      I found some stats that may or may not surprise you about atheists and morality

      http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html

      “But I have moral atheist friends!” How were your moral atheist friends raised? Judeo-Christian values taught to them by there parents. “There parents weren’t spiritual” Then their grandparents must have been. If not, then their great-grandparents were. Don’t forget, only 2% of people were atheist in the 1940s. Today it is 12%

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    • ripple effect
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:07pm

      If they force a student against his own free will to attend a prayer or meal in this case, that is against the law. Allowing one to choose to pray,attend or eat at a church is completely legal. It is the atheists who are breaking the law but our weak kneed judges are too afraid or stupid to understand this very simple interpretation.

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    • rich66
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:28pm

      You are correct. And the others are wrong. Not that you need my approval. I think you can stand on your own two feet. Just wanted to remind you, you are right.

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    • DLV
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:11pm

      Randy- There really is no point in arguing with someone like you. Bigotry is wrong.

      Says the guy who most likely believes in moral relativism. Nothing is “wrong” under moral relativism.

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    • ROCKETSMOM
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:16pm

      I CANNOT SPEAK FOR ANY ONE ELSE……but I for one am SO UNBELIEVABLY SICK OF THE GODLESS AMONG US HAVING EVEN ONE WORD TO SAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS……WE MUST TAKE A STAND AGAINST THIS RUBBISH!!!!!

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:29pm

      I agree DLV. To deny evil’s existence is impossible, and results in a reversal of it’s definition.

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    • petersenonmain
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:55pm

      This is the perfect reason that there should be loser pay laws. When an outfit like this brings up a frivolous lawsuits they would go bankrupt paying all the legal bills on both sides.

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    • TopFlightSecurity
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:35pm

      I’m sorry I meant @rational. Not randy he obviously has issues. If atheist know there is not a God then why get so tore up over stuff like this. It doesn’t make any sense.

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    • downhillmike
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:07am

      So, why do Christians have to put up with being forced to comply with the religion of atheism? Isn’t the non-belief of God a belief? What makes it right or “constitutional” to require someone in a public setting to be forced to listen to, support, or even accept someone who claims there is no God? Just wanting to know who died and made atheists the rulers of this great, Judeo-Christian Nation? Freedom OF religion guarantees just that. If atheism is practiced by the majority, then OK, that’s what we would agree to, but it’s not. And there is a reason why it’s not the majority religion! There is a God and He loves us all, even those who don’t believe in Him!

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:20am

      Randy baby

      http://times247.com/articles/dems-draw-in-muslims-with-jumah-at-the-dnc
      Go here and stick this where the sun don’t shine.
      MAROON!

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    • eric6161
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:44am

      Randy Hamett, I disagree. If I were on that team and we had gone to a mosque; I would have used that as an opportunity to tell them about Jesus Christ. Now, if they’d kick me off the team for that… then I’d have a case but not just because they took me to a church. A building is only a building… it’s the people on the inside that make the difference. Muslims worship Satan while Christians worship God… and the building just sits there without opinion.

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    • zipzap
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:29am

      @HAMLET – The estbalishment clause says nothing about public entities and churches interacting. Absolutely nothing. It talks SOLELY about Congress. It LIMITS the government’s ability to establish a state religion and limits its ability to PREVENT a free people from associating with any religion they choose. The Bill of Rights furthermore establishes the right of FREE CITIZENS to speak freely TO ANY OTHER PERSON on any subject they choose. That would be FREEDOM OF SPEECH, friend. To somehow twist FREEDOM into shackles on FREE people is sick.

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 7:32pm

      Randy Hamlet – So only atheists can go to public school? If I’m at lunch in the lunchroom at school and I decide I want to pray and give thanks for the meal I am about to consume, better not anybody come up and tell me I can’t pray because that is unconstitutional. If you choose not to believe, that is your business. You have no business telling me what I can believe. I have no problem sitting at the lunch table with a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Scientologist, or Atheist. They can pray anyway they want (or don’t want) as long as they leave me alone to do mine. That is diversity and tolerance. Atheists demand that nobody gets to pray because they don’t. That is intolerance.

      If it makes you feel bad because people don’t follow your rules, get over it. This is a Judeo-Christian founded nation, but we respect all religions (as long as they aren’t flying planes into our buildings or bombing our shopping malls). Atheists want the socialist way of life where religion is banned and religious icons are forbidden. Move to Russia, Cuba, or N. Korea if that is the way you want to live.

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    • spirited
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 10:58am

      @RANDY…

      That’s is not a plausable argument.
      If not for Christian churches, many of the atheists wouldn’t be here today.
      How many of their forefathers did the “church” feed, cloth, nurse… and help in general.

      ~> Careful now.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 1:26pm

      Seems we got a bit away from the original point, no?

      @The_Jerk

      “if you don’t like the coach, don’t play. If you don’t like the practice, don’t play. If you don’t like the language, don’t play.”

      Terrible argument. It is a public school sports program. If the coach is, in fact, leading prayer, bringing the team to churches that then lead prayer, and putting religious quotations on their uniforms, it is a clear violation of the separation of church and state.

      Falling back on the “don’t like it? Take a hike” argument is the last line of defense when someone cannot back up their argument legally.

      As a Christian, I think the coach is in the wrong. Forcing his players into these situations, while perhaps with good intentions, is clearly against the law. As others have mentioned, if the churches came to the practices and handed out free food: that’s fine. As soon as prayer or faith is brought into a public school (or it’s athletic programs, for those like @The_Jerk who don’t seem to realize they are still part of the public school system) by an authority figure or in a way that brings negative consequences to back out of it, it’s over the line.

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    • timbun
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:23pm

      @LOCKED:

      And that *law* would be…? This is the problem with the arguments put forth by people who apparently should never have graduated middle school, much less gone any higher in education. They never mastered 6th grade English apparently.

      The establishment clause begins with the word “Congress.” Why? Because it meant Congress! *Congress* shall make no law. Now, that just doesn’t work for the people who want to trample all over the rights of others, so they got some highly dishonest activist judges to interpret “congress” as any government-related institution. It’s patently absurd. Can your local public library create a binding *law?* No! The truth is, unless CONGRESS passed a law making people show up at these football games and say prayers over the meals or go to church after, (or, for that matter, banning them from doing so), this entire issue has NOTHING to do with the constitution!

      People are allowed to get together, even on public grounds, and engage in religious activities. Nothing in the Constitution says otherwise and you have to put meanings behind the words of the First Amendment that absolutely do not exist in order to even pretend there’s something here to debate. Without a law created by congress? There’s nothing to back the FFRF up in their claims. NOTHING. If the FFRF and their supporters held themselves accountable to the simple principle of plain honesty, they’d have to acknowledge that. I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happe

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:37pm

      Randy then by your argument how much would we loose if we couldnt use bible verses. how much daily use do we get out of religious verses? do they sue when someone sneezes and you say bless you? im athiest. the constitution says freedom OF religion NOT from. these athiests give the resto of us a bad name by being so overly sensitive activists. are you and the idiot FFRF gonna sue is someone says bless you? how about Gdmmit? or oh god? or holy crap? how about common phrases and refrences that we use every day that come from the bible? FFRF believe in god, dont you be fooled. they just dislike him. as for the muslim argument the FFRF is closer to islam than christians bost are against anyone preaching christian values which this country and your belief system are founded. FFRF needs to quit crying and whinning.

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    • NO1LOCATOR
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, should anyone go against that needs to move to 3 rd world country today !!

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    • whiteshirt
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Has something changed , did I miss something here , what is it that the FFRF is saying ( freedom FROM religon ) If I remember the constitution clearly states Freedom OF religion …what a bunch of crap…Just my opinion

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    • TeeLee
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 8:25pm

      Yeah, you know, these atheists seem to have nothing better to do with their time. It’s no skin off their nose, no one is making them do anything, or stopping them from doing anything. It doesn‘t affect them in anyway since they don’t believe in anything. If there’s nothing to believe, there’s nothing there to offend. I can’t stand people that cause problems for the sake of doing so and getting attention. They are some very shallow and sad, lonely people, obviously.

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    • TeeLee
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 8:29pm

      @Randy Hambet – I haven’t had time to read every single post, but I did see one of yours. What you and SOOOOO many other people get confused about is there is nothing saying no religion in schools. The law states governments shall ESTABLISH NO religion in schools. Being religious and helping out is not the government establishing a religion. When are you people ever going to get that through your heads? It wasn’t put in place to keep people and groups that are religious from doing things in relation to schools, it was to keep the GOVERNMENT from telling us HOW and WHEN to worship – wish is exactly what you seem to think they need to do now. It is the complete opposite of what this rule says and means. Get it? Got it? Probably not, you are the type who uses this as a catch all and don’t want to face reality, but only what you wish things to be. You have it backwards – them’s the facts.

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    • TeeLee
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 8:34pm

      I have to make a correction – I spelled it wrong – my comment was in response to Randy Hamlet, not Hambet. My typo.

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    • NavySwab
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 9:31pm

      Atheists and the Freedom From Religion Foundation are completely wrong, We The People are guaranteed Freedom Of Religion. Their claim of “Separation of Church and State” does not exist. The First Amendment, when read and interpreted correctly, Government (Congress) has no authority to make any law for or against Religion — any religion. Government can not prohibit anything Religious. Government must be NEUTRAL as pertains to anything religious. Public Buildings and Public lands belong to WE THE PEOPLE.
      “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” Congress has never made a law establishing a religion. Prayers, Crosses, 10 Commandments, and all other religious objects (of any religion) are only symbols of the religions that We The People cherish in our guaranteed Freedom of Religion. Courts that rule against religious items/symbols are actually violating the First Amendment — the law of the land that they swore an oath to uphold and defend against all enemies, Foreign and Domestic.
      NavySwab@gmail.com

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    • Oldbutnotsenile
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 10:46pm

      Oh, how right you are. No one is forcing any religion beliefs on the Athiest. How can one construe giving food to people forcing a religion on them? If I remember correctly the Amendment reads freedom of religion, not from religion and besides its only nourishment, nothing sacred or religious about it. Get a life people and try just getting along with all people as long as nothing is being forced on you. Quit your complaining.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:19am

      @Tim

      “And that *law* would be…? This is the problem with the arguments put forth by people who apparently should never have graduated middle school, much less gone any higher in education. They never mastered 6th grade English apparently.”

      And that “law” would be the Constitution of the United States of America. This is the problem when people who don‘t believe in the Supreme Court think they’re smarter than 200+ years of judicial review. They look at the Constitution, say “This is what it says! It never changes!” and think they won the argument.

      Of course, anyone who HAS passed middle school realizes that the Supreme Court of the US rules on Constitutionality, and has for over two centuries. And the Supreme Court has ruled that forcing prayer upon children in a public school is unconstitutional and illegal.

      See? Not too hard. Sorry you never graduated middle school :-(

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:21am

      @Oldbutnotsenile

      “How can one construe giving food to people forcing a religion on them?”

      You may not be senile, but you are perhaps illiterate. Anyone who thinks the issue is “giving food to people” did not read the article.

      The issue is the coach leading prayers, the coach bringing the team to churches that then lead prayers before giving out food, and the coach putting religious scripture on the team uniforms. Note, too, that this “team” is a public school’s sports program. That is clearly against the Constitution, as ruled by the Supreme Court several times over.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:01am

      Back when all the news was on about ACORN I asked my banker what he would have done if they showed up and threatened him with a protest march? He said, “he would have thanked the ACORN representive for co-signing on the poor person that wanted a house but couldn’t aford it.” When these Athiest squacked the school should have thanked them for stepping up to take care of all those expenses that the schools can’t aford.

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    • Angel_light
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:19am

      I agree with Rational Man. the kids can eat elsewhere if they want. I‘m sure the coaches don’t mind if anyone didn’t want to eat from a church. and come to think of it, those football players can work up an appetite. I‘m pretty sure growing kids won’t care where they eat as long as the food is good.

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    • ddmshawkins
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 1:03pm

      I feel this just gives them something else to complain about. Churchs are a part of the community and they like to show their support. What do the the atheist do other than sit around and complain about christians do to support their community?

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    • ddmshawkins
      Posted on August 26, 2012 at 1:11pm

      Oh and by the way I don‘t think you can force a 6 foot 250 plus pound teen boy to do anything he doesn’t want to do. If the coached prayed with the team and repeated a few bible verses who cares they are just words that can encourage just like quotes from any other person in this world. It just depends on how you look at it.

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    • do_it_all_again
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:06pm

      So,, tell me again, what exactly is the problem?

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  • 00100111
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:23am

    Yawn, atheists. Yawn. And you wonder why no one takes you people seriously.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:32am

      As you yawn, this movement is changing our culture.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:39am

      JERK….you give these fringey fantics far too much credit. The real damage has been done by the aging hippies and leftists who have access to our school children. But that’s about to change….

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    • john vincent
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:46am

      jerk-
      you are a little correct-
      change DOWNWARD. Any movement away from GOd is certain to meet with failure and a tragic end. Just ask any atheist who had a bedside revelation about the wasted life.

      Surely you in youir wonderful superior intellect (which is actually above the Creator) know that the second law of thermodynamics proves that all things tend to run down. You are proving that which you deny; that SIN is the generating principle of this entropy that cannot be reversed.

      Evolution has no answer for death. The atheist, and you included, have no sound argument for sin and death. God and His word will remain long after you are long forgotten. This ‘change’ that you speak proudly of, is simply an old worn out horse that has long been retired, brought out every so often for another feeding, then put back to pasture. Want some good intellect?? Try finding out God’s thoughts which are closer than you think.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:56am

      John vincent, perhaps that entropy has affected your mind. My point is, if we keep yawning, and take no action, these heathens will irreversibly damage our culture.

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    • john vincent
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:04pm

      ok jerk
      but your post appears to go the other way, and surely others think so as well, just a little ambiguous

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    • JustMeInAZ
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:31pm

      John, if you had read ony of “The_Jerks” other posts you would have known that what you interpreted was wrong,

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  • RodT82721
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:19am

    Once our government decided to coddle anyone that wanted to attack our Constitution, instead of sticking to those words as written, they opened the flood gates.

    Now these heathens can claim looking at a cross (the 911 site) makes them nauseous, and then find a judge that declares the cross a violation of the 1st amendment.
    It’s only a violation if you don’t bother to actually read the words of that amendment. Practicing religion was not only allowed, it was guaranteed.

    Eating a meal in a church by a school group, is not establishing a religion. Anyone without a progressive ideology knows it.

    The heathens have removed religion and morality from our schools and replaced if with a false idol, the unions.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:34am

      This attack on our values is not accidental.

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  • TheMajority
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:19am

    Don’t let these little communist activists who claim to represent American Atheists fool you. It is time to start arresting these activist goups for harassment.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:41pm

      harrassment? i think not. Christians mingling their religion in secular activities, at a public school no less, are rightly being called on the carpet. stop doing things like that and these lawsuits and threats will stop. i know you folks like to mix God in with everything, but not everyone does.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:45pm

      You are a scary person. Do we arrest your christian groups fighting gay marriage? News flash! Jesus was a communist. He lived in a commune with 12 disciples and some other people (definition of communist). I do not know a single communist atheist. Jesus showed socialistic views:
      •Healed sick for free
      •Told you to pay your taxes
      •Told rich people they were going to hell
      •Everyone needs to give and help the poor

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    • title_of_liberty
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:08pm

      Randy Hamlet, you are a scary person. Newsflash! Atheism and communism have historically gone hand in hand. Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Marx, what was it they all said? Oh yeah, they said “religion is the opiate of the masses.“ How is it possible to forget that the Soviet Union basically banned religion and institutionalized ”scientific atheism.” Communism, from it’s inception, has fought religion, and promoted atheism. And we certainly believe in helping the poor, just not with the government as an intermediary. Communism however does not help the poor. It forces the middle class into poverty and basically enslaves all non-party members so that those few who are party members can live in luxury.

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    • tzion
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:42pm

      @philly
      Who is forcing you to mingle G-d in anything? No one. Who is forcing us NOT to mingle G-d in anything? YOU. You are imposing your religious beliefs on us by not allowing us to practice our religion as we see fit, when we see fit, or where we see fit. The courts have declared atheism a religion yet I see no one filing lawsuits if the FFRF decides to donate money to a school. The church’s ability to provide food is not only protected by the free exercise clause but also by the freedom of expression clause. It’s their money and they can spend it as they see fit. The school isn’t paying for the church to provide the food, is it? Not one penny of public money is going to the church at all and yet that still isn’t enough for you.

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  • emilyhasbooks
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:18am

    The students should not be coerced into Christianity, or any other religion. This IS a violation & Christians should be appalled & consider how they would feel if it were a gaggle of Muslim churches pushing their ideas of the students.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:25am

      Please demonstrate how taking students to a church for a meal forces religion on them? Were they required to sit through a sermon, go to confession, or accept Christ as their savior before eating? No? Then shut up.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:31am

      I did not see where anyone was forced to attend these gatherings.
      So your point is invalid and stupid.
      Are the atheists denied the same opportunity? I didn’t see that either.
      No one is held against their will to be ‘indoctrinated’.
      Case closed!

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    • MrSunshine
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:32am

      Emily has books but no common sense!

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:33am

      Emily, yours is a misunderstanding of the word coercion.

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    • Mark Tripp
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:42am

      Emily, you might want to look up Fordson High School in Dearborn MI to see EXACTLY what a school district did, and what the reactions were. It will answer your question.

      MY question is where was this group when THAT was going on…. IF they have such a problem with religion…..

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:59am

      Mark Tripp, don’t misunderstand. Their problem is with Christian culture and tradition. They seek a more Talmudic, kibbutzim, way of life.

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    • Spankster
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Everytime something is said about Christianity the argument always goes to ( what if this was Muslim),My idea is for these folks to go to a Muslim country and try this,lets see how far they get,my guess is they would only get as far as the beheading.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:42pm

      i got your back Emily! you are right, of course.

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    • Randy Hamlet
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Emily; 110% truth.

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  • ColoradoMaverick
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:17am

    Why does a Atheist group from Madison Wisconsin care about what is happening with students in another state? Why don’t they offer to provide food for the students? You don‘t see liberal groups who don’t believe in God doing any good for others do you? They hate themselves because they have no faith and they want to bring the rest of the country down to share in their misery. What a bunch of pathetic losers!

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  • GreatGu
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:16am

    Where is the Constitution does it say you can’t go to a Church for a Meal. IT DOESN’T. All of this Crap is based on a letter Jefferson wrote, not on what is in the Constitution. Enough is Enough, it is time to stop turning our cheeks and draw the proverbial line in the sand and stop this nonsense. How many Muslim groups are using public areas for their religious get togethers and nothing is said…that is a precedent for fighting this.

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    • mudguy
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 12:59pm

      I wonder why they love to make what Jefferson said in a letter that there should be a wall of separation between the church and state part of the constitution and then they don’t do the same with all the other great statements he has said Like this one.”The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

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  • momrules
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:13am

    I am so tired, so tired of militant atheists who scour the country looking for anything Christian to complain, whine and sue over. it is time to just say * No I will not comply* to these beings.

    The FFRF are not just atheists. These beings hate and fear God and Jesus Christ. They hate anyone who is Christian and they hate America.

    Georgia parents these are your children, don’t let the godless determine how you raise them or whose food they may eat. Stand up to them in every way possible.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:26am

      One must ask when this anti-Christian movement began. One must ask who is behind this anti-Christian movement. This is definitely a change, and it is relatively new in American history, 20th century.
      Do you homework. The answer is not hard to find. You can begin anywhere: http://forward.com/articles/153882/why-are-american-jews-so-liberal/?p=all

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    • RodT82721
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:27am

      Suing is a very lucrative income stream for these heathens.
      They get to bill hundreds of hours of lawyer time, and regardless of the outcome get paid. The more hours billed the bigger the rewards.

      Our government passes laws to allow this.
      If the heathens were required to foot the bill for all their suits, they would have disappeared a long time ago.
      It’s just another government sponsored racket to get tax payers money. The environmentalist reap the same rewards.

      Their opponents are not so rewarded, so they have to pay to defend or give in without a fight. Only the very wealthy can survive these law suits.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:45pm

      “These beings hate and fear God and Jesus Christ. They hate anyone who is Christian and they hate America.”

      nope, but i certainly hate you. unlike God, you actually exist, and you actively suck at life.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:12pm

      Phillyatheist, and where is your value?

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:22pm

      JERK – i’m sorry, what is your question? any chance you could turn that into a sentence that makes sense? if you are asking for my net worth i don‘t think it’s appropriate to discuss in this forum.

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    • momrules
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:23pm

      Luke 6:22……Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they will separate you from their company and shall reproach you and cast out your name as evil for the Son of man’s sake.

      Luke 6:23……Rejoice ye in that day and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

      To be hated by an atheist because I love God and His Son Jesus Christ is not something to be ashamed of or scared by. While I make no claim of being a prophet, I am rejoicing.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:27pm

      yes MOMRULES, the Lord was so wise to say that you would be ridiculed for believing in ridiculous things. it’s like he could see into the future. i know you love your precious persecution syndrome so i’ll leave you to it.

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    • SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:34pm

      @ PHILLY…to believe in ridiculous things would be worthy of ridicule, however, to believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and all the evidence that accompanies his claim is hardly ridiculous. As we have discussed before the evidence is mountainous and credible. Thank you……

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  • HKS
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:13am

    Well, the thoughts of an atheist sharing my space here on the planet make me ill and effect my peace of mind, can I just get the government to remove them? Are my concerns not as valid as theirs? I am being discriminated against and I demand satisfaction.

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    • MrSunshine
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:33am

      Bingo!!!!

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    • thibx
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:34am

      i join you let’s sue them. it is time we take a stand against evil or it will run over us. i remember them taking prayer out of school. my 3rd grade teacher had a bible class after school while we were waiting for the bus. if kids wanted to go they could but did not have to. i looked forward to the class ever week. i was about ten at that time. she told us we could not do it anymore we would have to walk to the church about 1 mile away. this church was heated with a stove and was very cold so she had to cancel going to the church. this was my first encounter with the word of God. still remember those verses she taught us.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:53am

      Yep!….Me too!

      I’m sure that I am more sickened by radical, activist atheists than they are by the sight of metal beams in the shape of a cross at the 9/11 Memorial. But do I have a case against them?….NO!

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:50pm

      “the thoughts of an atheist sharing my space here on the planet make me ill and effect my peace of mind…”

      that would imply you have a healthy mind to begin with. it’s clear you do not. why is it clear – because you are attempting to equate the REMOVAL of a group of people based on their beliefs with not wanting a religion forced on kids who otherwise might not want it. it’s like comparing apples to skyscrapers.

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    • MemphisViking
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:29pm

      And yet you’re ok with schools forcing the religion of humanism on kids.

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  • snufy
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:11am

    Those people are deathly afraid of the truth, as well they should be. They try to change their lies into truth, but only succeed in making themselves look like what they are…fools on the highway to Hell.

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:20am

      Furthe evidence that there IS a ful frontal attack on Christianity. And still, preachers across America refuse to understand — or preach from the pulpit — that not being involved in the political process will eventually lead to them cowering in basements to preach the Gospel. By not electing good men and women of character means the attacks will not be stopped.

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    • subic
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:27am

      Our team does the same thing. One of our local churches feeds the team before every Friday night game and to top it off the pastor is one of the coaches and his wife is a mgr @ the Chick-fila!!

      We are also into the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and pray before and after every game. The atheists come around here in our conservative community spouting that garbage, they are libel to be fed a knuckle sandwich by some of our “not so PC” bubbas…

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  • ONE PERCENT
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:11am

    Ok, since I am a
    christian, my money (taxes and such) should not be accepted by the federal government, no mixing church and state. If we are going to the extreme, let’s just go all the way, don’t you think?

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  • Skippy_John_Jones
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:06am

    Wow, those atheists sure like to stick their unbelieving noses right where it doesn’t belong, don’t they? Oh yeah, sure, someone complained about people providing meals to high school athletes. Tell us who it is so it can be addressed without all this “legal” BS. For people who don’t believe in G-d, they sure are obsessed with Him. It’s pathological, really. Hey, FFRF, seek help! What a bunch of losers they are.

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    • DLV
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:45pm

      I’m willing to bet that if Christians amde the christian religion as private as possible, atheists would still be mocking God and still find something t ocomplain about. They are never happy.

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  • pickupyurcross
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:06am

    Hey I got an idea. Instead of complaining about it, why doesn’t an athiest group step up and serve these kids meals? Instead of stopping organizations from doing charitable work, do some yourself. You might just find out that doing so is a joyful experience and want to do more.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:27am

      Seeing as atheists worship govt, they believe the church of the govt and self worship should provide for these kids.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:05am

    The founders never had this mind, anyone that argues they did are delusional.

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  • floridareader
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:04am

    Those ignorant try to disguise every empty thought in the First Amendment even if their claim violates the majority’s right to exercise the first Amendment.
    If they are not believers good for them. But do not try to interfere with the beliefs of others.

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  • crosse1
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:01am

    Do the lawyers involved with the case realize separation of Church and State isn’t even in the constitution? How can it be unconstitutional if the subject of Church and State being separate entities isn’t even addressed? “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” How does that equal separation of church and state? This makes the Lawyers for FFRP look really, for lack of better terminology, stupid.

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:58am

    You will find Jewish lawyers an Jewish funding in this organization. This has been going on since the Jewish Louis Brandeis was unethically paying the Jewish Felix Frankfurter for his Zionist activities, concurrent with Frankfurter‘s arguing cases before Brandeis’ Supreme Court. The courts and money are force multipliers.

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:18am

      The Nazis were Leftist Anti-Semites, just like you, JERK. You must be very proud.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:31am

      MODEL82A1, if you actually look at the history, most of the world at that time, would have been called anti-Semitic. Fact is, and at that time, the shunning of Jews was a nearly universal trait. So, the big question is, “Why?”
      Was it the rest of the world, or was it Jewish cultural behavior?

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:32pm

      Sounds like you are blaming the victim in this case (the Jews)

      You have to understand that we are as much Judeo as we are Christian. Christianity would not have existed without Judaism and cannot continue to exist without Judaism. Doesn’t it make sense that progressives would try to destroy the source of Christianity, which is Israel?

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:27pm

      The_Cabrito_Goat, no. I’m saying that you call them victims, when in fact the played an active role. Jews declared war on Hitler years before Kristallnacht. Jews organized an called for boycotts against Hitler, well before his boycott of Jews. Hitler worked with Zionists to emigrate Jews to Palestine years before his final solution.

      Fact is, Jews played a major role in their demise. When the Japanese declared war on America, America killed Japanese. Why do Jews feel that they should be immune to the same rules?

      If you doubt any of these facts, then please hear it in their voice. : http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.cfm

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:15pm

      I’m sorry, that‘s just a territory I don’t feel comfortable going into. Good day.

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    • eagle275
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:08pm

      Uh-uh-uh – Jesus Christ is King of the Jews.

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    • tzion
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:29am

      @Jerk
      Goebbels would be so proud to see that his lies are still being repeated as truth. You have provided little in fact and have instead merely made assumptions. For example, you assume that all hatred of one group was caused by that‘s group’s behavior without any facts to support it. Historically speaking, many powerful groups in history has at some point come to hate a less powerful group simply because they don’t control it. Why did the Persian Empire dislike the Greeks so much? They refused to be part of their empire. Why did the Roman Empire ruthlessly crush anyone who stood against it? Because they wanted to control them. Why did the Catholic Church indoctrinate an entire continent to despise the Jews? Because the Jews refused to submit to their authority.

      Let’s not forget, the Church was once so powerful that even Kings has to submit to their authority. They were the sole means by which one could gain access to the afterlife for themselves and their families. They controlled everyone through this monopoly. Except for the Jews that is. Jews, unlike the Catholics of the Middle Ages, believed that everyone could reach G-d on an individual basis without an intermediary like the Church. Totalitarian groups always hate that which they cannot control. And when that group controls an entire continent, they can make their puppets hate too.

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  • LMW
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:57am

    Any orginazation can claim they have a complaint and start a investigation. I think that there should be a law that if a claim is made by an orginazation then they have to include the complaining party’s name. It can be kept sealed but at least the court can actually check to see if the complaint was real or made up as most are I believe. If any orginazation is found to have lied or made up the complain then the people involved should be fined and jailed. This would stop this liberal BS.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:57am

    Man, these atheistic zealots sure do like telling other people what they can and can’t do. They need to start practicing seperation of personal choice and what goes on with others’ lives. Yet again, note who looks like the jerks in this little drama.

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:55am

    Atheist r way out of line by bring up the constitution. Them & congress need 2 really read what it really says about our religous freedom.

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  • uisignorant
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:55am

    With the way FFRF is actively perusing this, isn’t that a religion?

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  • right
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:55am

    I believe in God, and I pray, and I like high school football, and I like to eat.
    I guess I’m next on their list.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:54am

    “Taking public school football teams to church, even for a meal, is unconstitutional,” FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel wrote in a letter to the district.

    Um, no. Actually, it isn’t. There’s not a single case that will support that position. Seidel is not only evil, he is a stupid liar.

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  • AvengerK
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:51am

    Yes those evil christians..how dare they do what the atheists don’t do..extend charity and civil mindedness by providing food to some school kids.

    Perhaps FFRF can use those funds it uses for all it’s litigious activity to pick up the slack and provide food also? Nah….that would be too christian of them wouldn’t it?

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  • perry1980
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:48am

    If you don’t want to believe than is fine by me.
    But don’t force your Non Beliefs on me and on my community.
    You have no more rights than I do

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:57am

      Isn’t about time someone snaps off on these atheist forcing their religious beliefs down the throat of our children. The first amendments say congress sahll make no law respecting the establishment of religion OR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF.
      Court who have ruled on religion in school issues have no Constitutional power to do so. It’s up the the people in the community to decide these issues.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:58am

      Is anybody forcing these kids to eat their food or worship with them?

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  • phillyatheist
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:20pm

    wow, this might be the scariest post i’ve seen from a Blazer, and that’s saying something.

    let me get this straight – you would like to execute members of this organization? like, kill them? really? seriously? if you could avoid prison or the death sentence or even with those ramifications?

    should i alert the authorities?

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  • DLV
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:10pm

    No one should be killing killing anybody. And if some supposed “chrsitian” said this well then, shame on them.

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  • Git-R-Done
    Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:07pm

    You leftists have no problem with issuing threats against groups of people that you don’t like. So should I alert authorities on you psychopaths?

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