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Uncovered: New Calls for the Updated Cloward-Piven Strategy to Overwhelm Americas Financial System from Frances Fox Piven with SEIU and Bertha Lewis Coordination
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snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:00am@Grandmaof5
Good morning, tea was delicious this morning (same winter mint), my cat got a nice suprise today, she was getting groomed when a truck backfired and she jumped into the trashcan where I was putting the hair from the grooming brush into. So now I got to see a literal ‘trash can kitty.’
I just pray that the Presidential Protection detail is on the job when some Progressive decides to make the move aginst Obama; we do not need a civil war erupting in this nation.
Ron Budwine
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:56amAmerica You had better wake up! These “Progressive” parasites are way ahead of the curve for revolution in this Republic! Beck,Rush,Hannity,and many other credible sources have sounded this warning for over a year,and it’s past time for us to get off our collective butts while we still have one! It’s our time to do some “Nudging”,& “Shoving” before “WE THE PEOPLE” loose control to this “SCUM”! Remember,WE outnumber THEM! “L’audace,l’audace,Toujour l’audace!”
Report Post »richahlgrim
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:52amThese folks can’t be arrested because of the 1st admendment. That doesn‘t mean that they can’t be shunned. Business should refuse to serve them, because if they get their way, those business will cease to exist.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:51amI AM READY for them, bring it on scumbags! I will defend my country to the end!
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:50amUnfortunately, if things get worse–as they get worse more ears will listen and agree with the message these idiots are spreading. It is always easier to blame someone else for our troubles than to blame ourselves!!!
Report Post »Bob
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:49amAs long as Eric Holder and Obamao are in office, nothing will be done to these subversives.
Report Post »hud
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 4:33pmThat’s why they should be replaced at the earliest possible moment.
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:49amWhat is the point for people to be brought down to a lower standard of living in order to “make things equal”? I refuse to be brought down to a level of some illegal who can’t even count the fingers on their hands.
How will anyone be able to strive for a better life when there really will be no profitable private business to employ people?
There is something bigger going on other than just Cloward and Piven, Obama.
Report Post »WestOfThePecos
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:48amI had to sell my place at a major loss to avoid foreclosure. Okay, so now I don’t have all that stuff but I am not broke. At least, I don’t owe anyone a dime and I still have my freedom to start over. Remember, all the stuff is only stuff.
Report Post »run42k
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:04pmYou are absolutely right. At the end of the day it’s just stuff. Your freedom and non-debt can make sleeping at night feel pretty good.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:14pmYou should also be proud you handled your situation in an honest way,,,,good for you!
Report Post »wisehiney
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:24pmJudge Roy Bean felt the same way.
Report Post »2Smart2BaLib
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:46amIf your home is underwater or your home is about equal to your mortgage then the best thing you can do for your family is stop making payments. By doing this you can live for free for the next 3 – 7 yrs. As home prices continue to plunge your savings account will keep increasing – and this will provide security for you and your family – 3 years from now your home will be worth 1/2 what it is now so why make payments?
Report Post »Ron Budwine
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:11amAmerica wasn’t built this way my friend! Let me offer you this–”If diginty,and charactor cease to be of value,what rewards do their absence offer..”
Report Post »not funny
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:21amSurely you can’t be serious!! Anyone who stops paying the mortgage and expects to come off without any bad consequences has to be in serious denial. This irresponsible thinking is sick.
Report Post »2Smart2BaLib
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:21amIt pains me to think this way but Obama has taught me to never let a crisis go to waste – 6 months after Obama was sworn into office my wife was laid off (first time in her life) so seeing what Obama did to the GM bondholders (screwed them) I stopped paying my mortgage and banked the payment instead – today I have $$50+K in savings & hired an attorney. The attorney said here in whacked out liberal Massachusetts I’ll still be living in the home for free for at least 3 more years after they start the foreclosure which means I could have over $200K saved up by not paying the mortgage.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:32am@RON….I agree….@2SMART…you make a good point, however. RON is right with regard to being prudent…etc….honorable…etc…however, many of these people were only trying to realize the american dream….many…far too many…are not …were not…sophisiticated enough, relative to finance, and plunged into disaster. RON: If the government had left their noses out of the banking and home owning business….we would NEVER have had a “false valuation run up” like we saw from the year 2000 through 2006. It was abnormal, it was contrived and many people followed along like “sheep” for the slaughter. In that regard I do feel for the misguided even though they are ultimately responsible for their own actions….How were these unsuspecting people to know the values would crash ? As an industry insider, I was worried, and predicted this as early as 2002. I couldn’t make enough cases for “good loans” because I originated, validated and was part of the approval process for mostly “full doc” loans (FHA, VA products). Alas, it happened right before my very eyes and resulted in my own personal financial demise because my livilihood was taken away…I actually had to watch these “professional salespeople” veil themselves as “Loan Officers” with the help of their unscrupulous real estate agent pals….I had the reputation on the street, (with realtors) as being someone that “wouldn’t get the loans done”…..garbage worms…all of them. Yet, I get destroyed along with the rest of them. My point is, these people (homeowners) that @2SMART is referring to actually will have an opportunity, as it turns out, to have time as an advantage….or on their side. The homeowner foreclosure relief act of 2008 provides that banks cannot do anything bu eventually “recapture” the properties in default….they cannot come after you for the “forgiven debt” as long as the home is your primary residence…. In lieu of the whole plethora of facts and factors involved in this crisis, and the mongrels at the top (government / bankers / wall street investment bankers) that are the most “culpable”….I would have to say that I don’t totally agree with you, although there are certainly many homeowners that are “underwater” and are paying their notes anyway…..This is one of the most horrific contrived financial disasters and embezzlement schemes perpetrated on americans …..probably of all time. If you doubt my theory, then you would have to beleive that the morons pulling the strings are just plain stupid….and that’s not likely……
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:11pmMikee T
Right on the money. Literally. The only thing I’d like to contribute is a longer timeframe than you used. It only became generally evident in 2000, but this problem began back in the mid-90′s.
I started smelling a rat around ‘95, when interest rates began to be held artificially low, far too low. Many won’t agree with me, but what I noticed was hard savings that couldn’t earn a respectable return in a CD – start flowing into Wall Street products. Check the rise in the Dow vs. the time period – that money had to come from somewhere – and most of it was from mutual funds. Housing became a commodity rather than a residence. House flipping was all the rage, always climbing the scale and depending on your equity to rise faster than inflation.
This bled the cash reserves out of the local and regional banks, and spawned merger-mania. When the targets were all set up properly at that level – then the trigger was pulled.
Wall Street walked off with the savings. The banks finished off their consolidations by force. The consumers were left with upside down assets and little to no nestegg in either cash or securites.
We’ve been harvested like a well groomed crop.
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:29pmAlthough we are not underwater on our mortgage, we have lost $300,000 in value. We did it the right way and tried to pay all our debts off. I look back now and I am ticked off because the exodus of retirees made off in this deal. They sold their big homes to young families and down-sized to condos, etc. Now here I am holding the bag for their retirement, I am sooo tired of paying out the nose while baby boomers reap the rewards of the messes they make.
Report Post »Wyoming
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:52amIf in the end you do not have your integrity and have screwed someone to live for free – then you are just another part of the problem. If you can’t handle the consequences of your poor investment decisions and blame someone else you and people like you are the problem.
Report Post »2Smart2BaLib
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 5:38pmWyoming – I agree with what you are saying about integrity & I think this whole thing is insane. But in a few months when gas hits $5/gal, milk is $15/gal and your electric bill is $700/month who will be able afford a home? Real estate values are about to go into a death spiral. By not paying my mortgage I’ve got $50K saved up to feed my kids with when the cost of living necessarily skyrockets. But to help rid myself of guilt I do donate $250/month to the tea party because I do want the insanity to end.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:29pmYou are right about real estate prices. Food and fuel are about to crowd out mortgage payments. The opportunity cost of 1000+ square feet per occupant is going to be hunger, very soon.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:42amFor some reason I cannot see many videos (some others cause my browser to crash). This is one that I can’t see. Can someone direct me to another site to see it.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:15amyoutube.com – do a search there and you’ll most likely find it there Dale!
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:16amYou may want to upgrade your browser, if you have IE, upgrade to IE 8.0…you can click on the brower HELP link to see your current version.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:11pmThank you Sgt.Crust. I use Firefox 3.6.13. I suspect I may have a virus of some sort. I will check Youtube. Again, thank you.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:19pmAnytime friend!
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:41amThey’re playing a shell game. I’m coming to crush their Dixie cups.
Report Post »StMichelob
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:41amBut you can’t shoot beans…
GeauxAlready
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:40amWelcome to the new normal. The sheep known as the American People have lost their spine. To PC everybody gets a throphy no more backbone. The needs of the few out weight the needs of the many in this new America……
Report Post »stmike
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:38amUgh I’m so sick of these people. And bored with their garbage. Isn’t it time to stop handling them the polite way? There really is a lot to be said for a good old fashioned beat down! We have all met atleast one person in our lives that was so stubborn and blockheaded that the only way to get a point across was with a punch in the nose. All of these pukes fit that bill. I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin.
grandmaof5
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:37amSecret Service, where are you? Is there some reason you think a “big mouth” wanting some publicity fighter is more dangerous that SEIU, Bertha Lewis and Francis Scott Piven? I think you guys/girls need to re-evaluate the definition of “dangerous” because if there is a revolution you will be up to your armpits in alligators (and I’m not speaking of Florida Gators either).
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:35amFight COMMUNISM in America.
Expose these people everywhere they are found and expose their connections, expose their connections to this administration.
We have to remind people how evil communism and socialism really are. Too many today do not understand the reality.
Report Post »wisewoman
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:24pmI’ve had enough too. I can‘t tell you how many idiots I’ve argued with the past two years. Most people don‘t know or don’t care what going on in our wonderful country. Educating these morons is going to be tough but it’s going to take a lot to shut me up. Wind me up with a glass of wine and my mouth won’t stop. lol Defund NPR and Acorn now. And Issa needs to start looking at the corrupt actions of Holder and Co. 2012 can’t come quick enough for me. Impeach Obama. He’s a detriment to the safety and welfare of our country.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:18pmHere here, and fight we will, vote the rest of the progressives out in 2012, if we make it that far!
Report Post »mdlwoods
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:31amSoooo, they are calling for free housing, for people to steal from the banks, etc. THROW THESE IDIOTS IN JAIL!
Report Post »123abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:27amDangerous, but socially engineered, times lie ahead. Why can’t these people be arrested for treason or some crime?
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:17pmBecause Marxists have infiltrated the government, they will turn a blind eye to our constitution and continue with their degenerate agenda until they have reached their goal, which is a socialist country that has been stripped of its inherent worth. That’s why.
Report Post »jeffdubya
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:18pmIf the court system is that corrupt, we need common-law tribunals.
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:27amNow you see the true Depth of Obamunism………..
walker1812
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:24amWake up America. These people are Barry’s mentors. Never waste a good crisis!!!! They plan to take permanent control of a socialist police state of America. I never thought I’d live to see the Democrat party corrupted by Marxists.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:33amif it gets to that point{god forbid} aim for the people in charge …………
luvtheright
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:23amThe people should be holding the INDIVIDUALS accountable that CAUSED this crisis: a few names come to mind: Bawney Fwank, Chris Dodd, Raines (sp), this guy walked away with $50 million from Freddie & Fannie, etc. Let‘s hope Issa does as he’s promised and goes after those involved with Freddie & Fannie.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:45amRaines (sp), this guy walked away with ……….
OVER $100 MILLION DOLLARS.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:01amHow about the individuals who knowingly bought houses they couldn’t pay for? I feel bad for those who were doing the right thing and were living within their means and they got laid off and could no longer afford their homes. The scumbags that bought homes they knew they couldn’t pay for caused this problem too. You know, just the other day I saw an ad for a mortgage lender who was encouraging people to apply for home loans with no SSN and no employment verification. Unbelievable.
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:14pmI have a friend who has been attempting to purchase a home on short-sale for well over 2 years now. My friend has paid numerous fees for the home, it was going on in circles as certain things expired and needed to be renewed. She was even at the closing table once when the owner came parading in and informed them that he just had 2 new liens put on the home by the IRS. The owner used to be a mortgage broker- he knew the ins and outs. The sick part was, by the time they were ready to close again (cleared up the owners liens) the second mortgage was sold to another bank who decided to renegotiate the sale. Putting my friend at square one…. again. This time my friend backed out, telling the second bank that if they couldn’t accept the terms (already agreed upon), she wanted her money back. The bank decided to list the property with an agent again, and yet has to give my friend her deposit back. I told my friend to call her congressmen and Fox News to let them know what our TARP money is doing.
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:22amThey hope it is coming, quickly! Prepare.
Report Post »mdlwoods
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:22amWhere is the FBI? These people need to be arrested and tried for treason! They are openly calling for the overthrow of the American system!
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:47am@MDl,i have asked that several times Where is the FBI ? apparently they have been bought out and unwilling to step forward and to DAMRIte i agree hang em high,but thats just a wishfull thought that i don’t see happening
Report Post »hickoryrat
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:58amYou people still don’t get it.
Report Post »No government organization,no police department ,is going to do anything.
They all have either been brainwashed or they are so drunk with power that they believe what their masters tell them.
POWER corrupts— ABSOLUTE POWER corrupts absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:58amHas anyone done any research on what happens when martial law is enacted? I have a feeling if the violence starts, it will be enacted and Mr. Obama will be able to remain in the office of President for as long as he likes. No more voting.
Just a thought ………..
Report Post »TheAntiProgressive
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:05amI agree that people who want to destroy our way of life should be prosecuted. The problem is, for what? The first amendment protects their speech. We unfortunately will have to wait until they break the law by their actions rather than their words.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:26amYou are correct ANTIPROGRESSIVE, not much anyone can do about them, until they cross the line of speech to action!
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:21amAgreed. These people are the true enemies from within and without. They need to be stopped and then tried to the fullest extent of the laws and statutes allow for. Send them to the super max for the rest of their natural lives and remind them daily of their failures to stop the US People who wish to restore and save the nation.
Our best years are still ahead of us.
Report Post »walker1812
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:20amThese radicals are Barry’s mentors. Wake up America. The administration wants crisis to grab permanent control of America.
Report Post »nptden
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:27pmAll players are involved…Hillary, Schummer..Obama, Barney Frank, Todd….and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on…..Nobody reports it….or charges them…
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