‘Under God: Indivisible‘ Conference Will Tackle America’s ‘Spiritual Crisis’
- Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:39pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Love“ event is now just weeks away. In addition to the exciting happenings that will unfold at Cowboys Stadium, there will be numerous coinciding conferences and meetings going on from July 26-28 (a full list of events is here). Among the initiatives is “Under God Indivisible,” a conference that is separate from but held in conjunction with “Restoring Love.” The event will focus upon American values and the need to bring the Almighty back into the mainstream.
On Friday, July 27, some of the most intriguing faith leaders from across America — and from numerous denominations — will come together at High Point Church in Dallas, Texas, to participate in the leadership event. It’s primary purpose? Calling America back to God.
In addition to hearing from an array of speakers, attendees will gain a great deal of information about the issues unfolding in the U.S., while engaging in prayer and other forms of worship. The end goal is a reawakening that serves to stir the nation’s heart. A web site setup to promote “Under God: Indivisible” reads, in part:
Every significant turning-point in our nation’s history (from the birth of this republic to the abolition of slavery and the civil rights movement) was preceded by a great spiritual awakening, when people of faith joined together in prayer and purpose. In spite of their differences, they found common ground to address shared concerns.
There is little disagreement that America is now in a spiritual crisis, but we believe the situation is far from hopeless! However, the church and those with faith in the living God are the only hope to see our nation’s perilous course corrected. It is our responsibility to hold up godly standards, allowing truth and the principles of our founding fathers to guide our path. [...]
This unprecedented day begins at 2:30 pm…[and includes] a panel discussion among these exceptional leaders, sharing their insight on matters of faith in the public forum and how to express specific concerns among our congregations and in our communities. This session (for pastors, priests, and rabbis, along with other ministry and business leaders) will give attendees an opportunity to ask questions of their own.
Speakers at the event will include: the Rev. James Robison (he’s co-hosting), Dr. Tony Evans, Father Jonathan Morris, Pastor John Hagee among many others (a full list of speakers can be found here).
“We have organized the…meeting to emphasize the importance of another great spiritual awakening,” Robison says of the event. “We’re calling for people of faith to seek common ground to effectively address our legitimate concerns.”
Planning to attend “Restoring Love” — or live in the Dallas area? You can get more information about the “Under God: Indivisible” conference here.
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Comments (86)
dontbotherme
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:23pmOh, how I wish I could be there. The spiritual leaders listed here are amazing men of God! God is on the move, gathering His people to do great things! An awakening is coming.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:47amIn the last days there will be an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Time to make a choice , to put our whole trust in God or to keep going down this path of destruction . I choose God.
Report Post »In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:13pmOn one hand Glenn Beck’s The Blaze posts that a pastor in Singapore faces life imprisonment for absconding $18 million dollars from his church to help his wife’s singing career… and on the other hand promotes meeting with Televangelists, who have majored in being uncorrectable and minored in covering up scandals and nurturing an illogical, unquestioning tithe-flock. No brainwashing to see here! Move along, rube-brains! Move along!
Report Post »Suz617
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 1:29pmYou need to look at and RESEARCH these men of God. Not completely sure of one whose picture is on here, but the rest are all men of integrity. They are NOT televangelists, just because their preaching is shown on TV. Don’t be so quick to trash someone you obviously know nothing about!
Report Post »In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:47pmBeck, who appears to be perfecting the art of becoming uncorrectable, wants to meet with those who have. Televangelists have kilt their God-given consciences, else they’d forgo (as would Beck) their jets. But Beck likes his jet? And therefore, he must have the company of other jet owners?
I Killed the Monkey on My Shoulder
By Robert Winkler Burke
Book #3 of In That Day Teachings
9/30/08 http://www.inthatdayteachings.com
I killed the monkey on my shoulder,
The one no one else could see,
I killed the monkey on my shoulder,
The one that spoke to me.
I’m a preacher of the gospel,
My theme is prosperity,
My monkey said it’s a self-interest sham,
So I shot him eventually.
Though I shot him with big enough pistol,
A Colt forty-five,
That damn monkey went back on my shoulder,
Very much alive.
The next Sunday I preached rapture,
Our coffers were getting low,
Nothing like fear of the beast,
To make the money flow.
But my monkey objected,
To everything I said,
So I killed him once again,
Hoping he would stay dead.
This time I ran over him,
With my ministry car,
Flat as a pancake he was,
He wasn’t going far.
Next Sunday was Super Sunday,
So I spoke of football,
My monkey returned and told me,
I had dropped the ball.
I cut him up with a butcher knife,
Report Post »And rammed him down the sink,
I laughed while the garbage disposal,
Munched away on pink.
In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:57pmOn Sunday I preached intellectually,
Glorifying my brain,
My monkey returned to my shoulder,
Saying I had missed again.
I ripped him to pieces,
With my bare hands,
I felt so anointed,
In my right stand.
Now I preach whatever I want however I want,
A rainbow of styles,
Prophetic Jabberwocky, Mojo-Jive or Baby Talk,
All I get are smiles.
My monkey is dead as nails,
Of this I am sure,
He no longer visits or bothers me,
Because I’m now so pure.
Honestly, I do hate correction,
It’s so very immature,
Let that spirit bother someone else,
As I open heaven’s door.
I’ve gained so much power,
Since my monkey is gone,
My sheep see everything as I see,
Without objection one.
Anything is possible,
With uncorrected faith,
Just kill your monkey conscience,
As I say, the bible saith.
Believe me, anything is possible,
With uncorrected faith,
Immerse yourself in this doctrine,
And enjoy my same fate!
[Glenn Beck... ugly can't cast out ugly! Televangelists have mixed the same patriotic-tithe-to-your-unquestionable-authority-figure... for 50 years.... and the result is massive progressive-socialism. Televangelists make rubes that entertainers & politicians use!... Just like Beck uses them! Televangelists make the brains of sheep into zombies they keep under rule of tithe!...
But it suits Beck fine to quid-quo-pro sell each others' authoritarian wiles & sheep-control mind-chains with illogical rube-trappings.]
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:43pmSo, do you keep crazy in a closet or self storage?
Report Post »In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:40pmWarpSpeedPetey,
You might want to try developing a complex mind! It’s fun to acquire!
For example, Beck’s audience appears to be at the bottom of a steep learning curve.
And that base is where one discovers how slightly smarter leaders deceive and con and make books sale-slaves of…. slightly less-educated followers. That would be Beckbots and tithe-monkeys who send their all to Televangelists.
Now the wile-packed, rube-creating, low-level radio broadcasters insist their audience MUST buy their next “life-changing” book, book number 8, or book number 16, or book number 23.
Or is it the wile-packed, rube-creating, low-level Televangelists that do that?
It’s easy to mistake the two groups as one, because they both do it.
Both low-level groups: low-level radio broadcasters and low-level Televangelists each have the same solution: Worship your self-exalting, authority figure! And never question this authority figure, who can fix all things… if, that is, you send him or her lotsa money!
They use fear (rapture, soon-coming war!)
They use greed (7-ways to success, get-GAWD’S-blessings!)
They use laziness (never suspect this oldest of cons accomplishes nothing but getting conmasters rich!)
And they use folks like you, WarpSpeedPetey, to run interference!
Our Founders always pointed out the Kings of the day had devoted court lackeys, defending the tyrant’s enslavement of other brains.
Capiche?
Report Post »DJ in AZ
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:03pmAre there going to be any LDS (Mormon) speakers at this event?
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:14pmI simply think it would be very enjoyable just to be there – Gezz ! – Jonathan Morris, Ravi , Hagee !
Report Post »Creativethinker
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:09pmI am glad to see more preachers coming together about this… The morality of American society has declined greatly… which only turning back to God is the only answer to restoring this country. The Great Awakening has been going on for a few years now… there are large numbers of people turning to Christ. He is pouring out his spirit and Revival is coming! http://www.Revival.com
Report Post »AndYetItMoves
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:38pmHow appropriate that the event takes its name from the catchphrase of the Mccarthy era. This is sure to be another wonderful exercise in white self-pity orchestrated by the great prophet of American tribalism, brother Beck.
Report Post »In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:36pmWith Kenneth Copeland (aka I never met a jet I didn‘t like to purchase with sheeple’s cash!) and other televangelists, I’m sure they will all conclude the answer is anything but their own curtailing of self-dealing corruption!
Beck is forced to bed with these Devils, because he rented big-buck stadium!
Televangelists Brook Absolutely No Opposition!
By Robert Winkler Burke
Book #9 of In That Day Teachings
Copyright 6/28/12 http://www.inthatdayteachings.com
They brook absolutely no opposition,
Televangelists who terra-form the earth to create blind rubes!
They say, God will bless you, son!
If you send cash so that their form is on Earth’s TV tubes!
They beat all opponents until disabled,
Creating their perfectly desired result,
They make human cattle incapable,
Of questioning their greed-mired cult.
They say they are saintly, unapproachable Evangelical,
In the biblical work of Jesus Christ they do,
Which always ends up: finance-absconding heretical,
They say they’re great! But is it really true?
They brook absolutely no opposition,
Insisting God blesses who sends bursts of cash to them,
Gulfstreams they resolute-acquisition,
While saying, To question them is world’s worst sin!
Their vampire-tarnation religion is,
Report Post »Poor mentalities must make televangelists obscenely-wicked rich!
Zombie sheep creation is their biz,
Zombies learn, but televangelists never, when the blind hit ditch!
In That Day
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:45pmTelevangelists brook absolutely no opposition,
Although they always, self-reeling, implode,
Televangelists apparently can’t be abolitioned,
Un-flushable is their self-dealing mode.
Tyrannical politicians love all televangelists,
And you can guess the reason why,
Televangelists make rubes, removing risks,
For tyrants to rule by fiat lie!
Why is the world such a mess?
With broken progressive-socialism and sovereign debt to the sky?
Well, it’s anybody’s guess,
Maybe it’s our regressive televangelists making lie-lovers, say I.
(In a few years, Beck will rue the day he teamed up with the corrupt televangelists of Give-to-Get indulgence idiocy.)
(One thing you can bank on… Televangelists will never say that Madison warned people against leaders NOT being angels. All televangelists insist their rubes never question their tithe-to-the-self-dealing-leaders.
Televangelists will never become collectively obsessed with learning and improving anything… but how to get more rubes sufficiently blinded and blinkered until the sheep are dumbed-down enough to collect unending tithes and executive jet love gifts and wing-tank-filling offerings.
Ugly can’t cast out ugly, Oh Beckians!
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:56pmto argue with the fool is for the foolish………
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:53pmTwo Witnesses : ” How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the Gospel of peace , and bring glad tidings of Good Things! ” – Romans 10:15 and Isaiah 52:7 King James.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:50pmIf you have Ravi you have a chance..He is the most down to earth preacher I have ever listened o and learned from…check out his old cd “mind games in a world of images” and ingest wisdom……
Report Post »highcarry
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:36pmtalk, talk, talk. and glenn just gets richer and richer and richer.
Report Post »vaman
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:00pmThe premise of this event is all wrong. There is no spiritual problem in America. There are churches on every corner. Plenty of parochial schools and plenty of these multi millionaire pastors to go around. This really has nothing to do with making America truly better. It’s about trying to extend religion further into government and lives of all people, even if they don’t want it. These events have been happening for decades but due to sensible laws, all religions are kept where they belong, not in the public arena. But the most important part of this is the money! The pastors and whoever runs this event are salivating knowing the millions of dollars they will take in from the “tithing” scheme. Maybe I’ve been wrong about this christian thing. It can’t be that hard to start a church and extort money from my followers. Something to think about.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:24pm“Every significant turning-point in our nation’s history (from the birth of this republic to the abolition of slavery and the civil rights movement) was preceded by a great spiritual awakening, when people of faith joined together in prayer and purpose.” Wow what a wonderful statement. Totally false, but a wonderful inspiring statement. But hey its the type of stuff that fills the seats and the offering plate.
Report Post »amerbur
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:48pmVaman, how sad is the heart that has choosen not to know or honor his creator. Great is the God who gives each of us the freedom to love or reject him. Those that are lucky enough to serve at this event will be blessed, I am certain, however not as you have discribed. Perhaps you might think of paricipating and helping your fellow Americans. Your gift of love would serve this country better than your negativity.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:34pmSadly-I believe you are all right. There is a spiritual problem in america in that preachers do not preach against sin any more and most are slaves to money and the 5013c. IF preachers would again become real men of God and stand for Him and against evil, things would change…
Report Post »However, sadly they don’t have to charge much for the tickets because once they get thousands of people there-they get you address on a card and send out millions of solicitations in the mail which will bring in millions of dollars to their accounts. Jesus would NEVER condone this. He didn’t even have a place to lay His head.
The separation of church and state thing is nonsense…I mean didn’t Michelle Obumma tell us the best place to talk about these issues is church?”
girlnurse
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:39pmKenneth Copeland??? Come on Glenn! These men are all super wealthy preachers….in Copelands case a bigtime TV televangelist. I hope their heart is right and their doctrine is sound and they do not lead people astray. We are NOT here in this world to store up riches and live in supreme comfort and throwing money at a problem is not always the answer…Something tells me this event is bringing in alot of money..
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:46pmOkay I looked and tickets are only $15 (including a meal)…I am impressed with that and I hope many people go and turn their lives around and I pray it is a huge success for the Lord and HE and HE alone gets all the glory and honor..
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:40pmglad you checked into it more GirlNurse…
and Father Jonathan Morris is a Catholic Priest from the order of Legionaires…they are not rich…there is no Catholic priest anywhere that is rich….they all take vows of poverty and having worked at a Catholic school…seen where they live, what they drive, and how they live….not like they get paid above the poverty limit…
Jay Richards same thing…liberal that converted because he accepted a challenge to stop bashing and start checking for himself…
PCD are a music group…why not get paid…secular groups do and people don’t care…
and there are two other men that run foundational ministries…they might be well off but I wouldn’t call them rich…not like athletes, TV and movie actors, TV news anchors, or even American politicians…..
but hey…at least they are working 6 days a week for their paycheck…unlike someone that is on the golf course every weekend, doesn’t have his first meeting until noon, and goes to his private quarters by 5…..lazy ass that he is…must be a carry over from his “shroom gang” days…to doped up to concentrate long…
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:24pmIm still torn VRW.
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:54pmHey, check this out :) OT but I looked at that link you gave me and I would like you to consider listening to these and telling me what you think <3
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermon-series/236/a-radical-alternative-to-political-activism
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:28pmNot sure who you intended those for PUTMOREONMYPLATE: But I am watching and enjoying John M. is always good….considering….considering truths.
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 5:45pmThey were for you :) You posted a link in reply to my statement that authority comes from God. One of the joys about listening to sermons and reading theology that I have is the perspective that different Christians have on the Bible. The message is the same, salvation is the same, but God made people to be different. In those clips JM talks about how we as Christians have no right to create policies to force our views on non believers. I find myself wanting to make a difference to change my world so that I don’t find myself complaining. But really the best thing I can do is share what I have with others and accept feedback with love. <3 Perspectives and roles we have regardless of what denomination or views we have make us uniquely able to reach out to everyone with our love from all types of backgrounds :) Not relevant to anything in particular just random by nature. Happy 4th!
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:39pmWhen someone doesn’t believe in God but follow those that do that someone must be looking for something..
I am just glad that I have faith and feel good about having God in my life. One thing about America we still have freedom to believe what we want to or don’t want as long as legal…
Tomorrow we will celebrate the 4th of July ( Independence Day) and my hearts and prayers go out to all that have served, are serving or will be serving for our freedom. We need you and Thank you. God Bless
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:49pmI should not have added “as long as legal” Guess I was thinking we can do what we want as long as legal. Sorry.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:16pmI do as I please so long as it does not infringe on my neighbor. SCREW LEGAL.
Report Post »BPMaine
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:23pmYou need to read the book “The Harbinger” it shows the incredible parallels of how anciant Israel failed to come back to God and was destroyed as a nation. We are on the exact same path. BTW – has a lot to do with 911.
Only option this country has is to return to Christ!!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:45pmIt’s ALL in scripture … if people would read that and have a healthy relationship by walking in the Spirit … don’t need to read the mans book . Not to brag .. but I could have told you these things 20 years ago … guess it’s good though that people do seem to be waking up. Waking up is just the start of what we need to do. No matter, trouble is still comming. I know this cause scripture say’s it is. It also say’s to fear not.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:19pmThe ultimate resolution of any conflict between Ideologies… is War.
Report Post »PatDCake
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:14pmWe need to be ready for what is ahead for our nation. Praying especially for blessings multiplied for this event and the days following.
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:12pmBought my tickets Saturday. Returning to God is America’s only hope!
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:44pmI WILL say Im impressed that tickets are only $15! My flight to Texas would be the major cost:(
Report Post »Have fun!
justangry
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:29pmI’d say returning to Liberty is our only hope. A lot of religious politicians are every bit as tyranical as the president. Perhaps after the awakening people will realize that killing Americans without due process is murder. Expanded to Foreign Policy… war without due process (congressional declaration) is murder.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:44pmPeople who vote for candidates who support this stuff are accessories to murder.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 4:56pmI actually think it would be a sight to see. An entire stadium full of accessories to murder acting all sanctimonious and looking down on little old agnostic me. “Ain’t that special”.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:17pmOf course murder is fine as long as gays don’t get married, people don’t do drugs, lonely people don‘t hump ho’s…
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:30pmI went to priceline and now have round trip flight and two nights at the Hyatt for $371.00.
Report Post »awestruck
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:12pmThe context is important:
Report Post »(Psalm 137:8-9) 8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be despoiled, Happy will he be that rewards you With your own treatment with which you treated us. 9 Happy will he be that grabs ahold and does dash to pieces your children against the crag.
Leperus
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:09pmSo are we going to be forced to believe in god now? Sounds like freedom to me, oh wait….
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:19pmNobody’s “forcing” you to do anything. But you sure are doing a good job of making yourself look like a foll all by yourself.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:32pm“Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.” – William Penn
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:04pmThanks Glenn…this is what we all need…it is the only way to save America. Those that can’t attend can mark this date and be there in Spirit. God Bless America!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:04pmI‘m afraid they have as much chance of tackling America’s spiritual crisis as I have of tackling Ray Rice with a head of steam. God bless them for trying though.
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:12pmNow Gonzo…Come on and stay positive with me. If God is for us who can be against us? Smile and think positive thoughts.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:18pmThat crisis is media driven. Look no farther for a solution to that.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:21pmBeckwill, Im reading “The Harbinger” right now. It doesn’t paint a pretty picure and it rings true. I know that in the end victory is ours, but I’m certainly not convinced that the U.S. is victorious. You should check it out, it will make you the life of the party like me. :-)
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:57pmYo Gonzo:
God does indeed bless the efforts of His children … does He not work through us? No effort, nothing to bless. Not sure of the big deal about this book when it is all in scripture for us to see and be warned by. All one has to do is read the Prophets and see the parallels. I am proud to be an American, but in the end it is not about America it is about The Kingdom … that should be what concerns us the most. There are many prophetic statments out there concerning the break-up of this nation … our pride has blinded us to what can happen and how far we can fall !
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:23pmRead it and decide for yourself. It is all in the Bible, but this book just really brings the similarities between ancient Israel (and it’s downfall) and the U.S. into focus.
Report Post »FatPolice
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:28amGonzo, don’t miss the key, the Harbinger is like a warning. Yes. Israel went into captivity because idolatrous leaders led many to sin against God. But America has a choice. We can turn back to God and He will hear us. If we stay strong in numbers our votes will count, they will matter.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:56am@ Gonzo – I finished the Harbinger yesterday – great, book and a much needed message.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:02pmWithout a return to GOD ALMIGHTY, a mighty shifting of our society back to its JUDEO CHRISTIAN roots, we are doomed. But, you all know that.
Blessing and miracle await each and everyone who attend and those of us who cannot, but long to be there with you. May GOD BE PLEASED with HIS kids’ heart, minds and souls as they focus on HIM.
Praying on intentionally and fervently for the entire three day event; hedging it before, during and beyond in JESUS MIGHTY AND POWER-FILLED NAME, amen.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:12pmWe were never with this God person, since our founding this nation has been a Secular Republic.
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:22pmENCINOM You obviously have no knowledge of history. And I doubt you’ve ever read the Founders in their own words? The 5000 Year Leap? Ignorance is what is destroying this country! You obviously have the freedom to believe or not believe whatever you want. But you do not have the freedom to simply make up your own history and facts.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:26pmPerhaps Encinomoron you can explain this then that happened on April 30, 1789 (Washington’s inauguration day for the historically challenged as yourself)
” On the morning of the day on which our illustrious President will be invested with his office, the bells will ring at nine o’clock, when the people may go up to the house of God and in solemn manner commit the new government, with its important train of consequences, to the Holy protection and blessing of the Most High. An early hour is prudently fixed for this peculiar act of devotion and is designed wholly for prayer” – from the New York Daily Advisor April 23, 1789.
And on that day for 30 minutes bells rang calling the nations people to prayer. After the swearing in ceremony, led by Pres Washington, the entire body of the Congress, all Representatives and Senators walked to St Paul’s Chapel where Pres Washington led in a prayer of dedication of our new nation into the hands and providence of Almighty God
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:05pmJesus F’ing Christ are you people idiots. Either you are repeating the non-sense history from the Harbringer (still no proof of a convenant) or you are citing Mormon works of fiction as proof, (The 5000 Year Leap is largerly debunked here http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/10/18/101018fa_fact_wilentz?printable=true).
@kaydeebeau the fact that a prayer service was scheduled for the day of the swearing in (the News article is dated nearly a week prior) is proof of nothing, nor is the fact that church bells rang after the fact (thoug citation is not given) . Read your bible, with the First Convenant and the New Covenant, there was something tangible to mark God’s agreement, whether it was the tablets that 10 Commandments were written on or Christ himself. With this the scam artist author can offer nothing more than a pray service which is no different than any other pray service held to mark any other special occasion, its no different than the one the Fighting Irish have prior to the start of a football season. The only proof you have is a prayer service being held, even Obama went to Church before he was sworen in and had preachers deliver Benedictions.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:05pmYo Encinom:
You need a push out of that rut you are in … course, it is constantly offered, and you consistantly refuse it. Guess that’s why you keep repeating your self deceptions … it dosen’t come true no matter how may times you repeat it and click your heals ………… push
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 9:19pmMr. Beck is in spiritual crisis.
He forsook Christianity and became a cult member.
The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints is not monotheistic and the jesus he now calls savior is not The Christ God made man.
He is just projecting his bad choice onto the rest of America.
Report Post »Tractorboy
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:22pm@encinob, Guess the founders just threw the word God into everthing as just sentence enhancers.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:55pmSilly me.
Report Post »I thought it was an unemployment crisis.
Leperus
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:06pmI know right? Its all because us heathens aren’t right with the lard, or some such. How about I work on the economy and you can pray all you want to. Whenever you try to “convert” me or the like, I walk away. Sounds like freedom to me.
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:16pmAnd we will be praying hardest for those that mock and belittle us. For those that can only reach gratification by making fun of others. And it’s supposed to be us people of God that have issues? Lord help us all!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:17pmJust because you are blinded by the workings of the LORD, does not mean He is not working.
Leperus … sounds like foolishness to me …but yeah … you are free to be whatever you want to be. That freedom only exists because of God and a nation built on His principles … you guys are getting what you want and the more that happens the more freedoms we lose.
Report Post »barbofmv
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:54pmReturning to God is the answer, need to restore covenant with God
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:11pmWe never had a convenant it any of the Sky Fathers. This is just some more far right fringe myths that do not hold up to the truth. If there was a convenant, like the ancient Israelis, where is the Ark to keep it?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:34pmPerhaps Encinomoron you can explain this then that happened on April 30, 1789 (Washington’s inauguration day for the historically challenged as yourself)
” On the morning of the day on which our illustrious President will be invested with his office, the bells will ring at nine o’clock, when the people may go up to the house of God and in solemn manner commit the new government, with its important train of consequences, to the Holy protection and blessing of the Most High. An early hour is prudently fixed for this peculiar act of devotion and is designed wholly for prayer” – from the New York Daily Advisor April 23, 1789.
And on that day for 30 minutes bells rang calling the nations people to prayer. After the swearing in ceremony, led by Pres Washington, the entire body of the Congress, all Representatives and Senators walked to St Paul’s Chapel where Pres Washington led in a prayer of dedication of our new nation into the hands and providence of Almighty God
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:28pm@kaydeebeau
Report Post »Is your only point to repeat the fractured history that is offered by fringe Christian authors to scam idiots from their money.
jungle J
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:53pmwhos God?
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:49pmRestoring love and happiness the biblical way!
Psalm 137 9
Report Post »Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!
Conservative New Yorker
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:16pmhe context of Psalm 137 is the Babylonian captivity. The Psalmist speaks of the captors tormenting the people of God (vv. 1-3), a promise to remember Jerusalem (vv. 5-6), and a curse against the captors (vv. 7-9).
“The Psalmist is in exile and had probably witnessed the atrocities committed against his people, babies included. In the revenge-style that was so common at the time, he wishes the same upon his enemy as a description of their utter destruction. Nowhere does it say that God approves of the Psalmist’s request or that he fulfilled it. Just because it is recorded that the Psalmist wrote the imprecation, doesn’t mean it was approved by God.”
Educate yourself.
Report Post »amerbur
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:27pmWay to take a statement completely out of context to make it fit the lie you tell yourself. The Medes and Persions destroyed Babylon in 539 B.C. Many of those who were oppressed lived to see the vctiory. The phrase about the infants is harsh because the psalmist is crying out for judgement. It is a cry to God in response to pain and suffering. Jesus had not yet been born.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:06pmIn the context that I wrote it (biblical) it is correct. I didn’t say that god approved of it or that it was godly. Now, I hope the rally organizers keep Matthew 6:5 in their hearts lest they be hypocrites.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:25pmYo Antitheist:
Matthew 6:5 is to the INDIVIDUAL, not to a group of people praying together in one accord, least you know of what you speak.
No matter what context you wrote it … you are incorrect
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