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Union Worker Protests ‘Greedy’ American Airline Execs With YouTube Song & Dance

Since filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2011, American Airlines has been looking for a way to reorganize its finances. One proposed method involves a $1.25 billion reduction in annual labor cost and scraping union contracts.

Obviously, this has not gone over well with union members and the matter has been taken to court. However, there won’t be any decision until next week.

“A judge on Thursday postponed a ruling on whether to throw out contracts covering thousands of unionized workers at bankrupt American Airlines,” according to Reuters.

“Judge Sean Lane of the New York bankruptcy court was set to rule on Friday on the airline’s motion to abrogate terms covering pilots, flight attendants, and certain ground workers at the No. 3 carrier,” the report adds.

Frustrated that unions might lose, one America Airlines flight attendant decided to protest what he thinks is an unfair deal (i.e. that union workers lose their coverage while top executives keep their pay) buy making a video parody of that god-awful Village People song “YMCA.”

Here’s the video’s YouTube description:

This video is a tribute to all hard working people who have been wronged by corporate greed. The song YAAY (Why American Airlines Why?) is a fun and creative way of expressing labor’s displeasure with the hundreds of millions of dollars of bonus money awarded to top executives at American Airlines over the last decade.

Meanwhile, American was spiraling toward bankruptcy with management pointing the finger at labor. Make no mistake, we have no problem with bonuses when good, sound business decisions lead to a profitable airline and morale is high. We do have a problem when employees are told they must take wage cuts and other concessions to stay out of bankruptcy but no such concessions were taken at the highest level.

The video has caught some media attention.

“This is the future. Picket lines are the 70s, 80s, and 90s,” the video’s creator American Airlines flight attendant Robert Hearn told CBS DFW.

“In this video you have three employees and three frequent flyers that kind of united together and had some fun and made a fun creative way to get our point across to management; that we’re not happy having the finger pointed to us whenever things go south,” Hearn said.

And now we have this song stuck in our head. Great.

Comments (70)

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  • Burby
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:53pm

    I have no experience with the airline industry other than knowing a good number of pilots, some I love as a brother, some like the step child one always hears about or the dreaded mother-n-law movies have been made about.
    Union workers I have had some experience with in recent years trying to put them to work when the Naval ship yard closed down & some factories that had union workers closed as well.
    These workers last from a day to 3 days at best. No I do not judge all by these 20 or so workers, but I would close down my business before I would ever hire a union worker again. They were some sad workers.
    But none the less, moving past this.
    How did this come to this in the airline industry if union bosses were so great & did as they should have? And are they charging a fair amount for dues if they can donate millions to democrats running for office during any election?
    It is not my fight other than as a Customer who does fly, one can bet I will use other methods of transportation from now on. I fly out of conveyance, not necessity, & a train, driving, or being driven may just be a nice change. Because reading comments by angry union workers here, some may be more of a threat than terrorist are today, eh?

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    • speakerman1
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 2:51pm

      I was a contract aircraft mech for a few years. They can get scabs within a week. Alot don’t go to the ramp. They work in the hangers. If I was a line mech. I could go on the ramp with an escort. The company I contract with will do the background check. The longest I waited for a line badge was 2 weeks. The shortest amount of time was the same day. Not every airport is the same. If I couldn’t go on the ramp. What if it is an out station and no company mechs were there. Would I have to wait for a badge before I could fix it?

      Larry

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  • dynaboy
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:22pm

    If this was my air lines I’d close the doors and put them all on unemployment line,just cause they are union ,unions bleed the companys dry,I know I was long shore man and in printers union and both wanted take the companies dry like there was a never ending supply of money idiots

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:53pm

      Once you understand how the Economic System works… you realize there must be Profit to form Capital to provide for Expansion, New Products, and Loans… which results in More Jobs & Higher Wages.

      All that Robin Hood did is Redistribution, which stopped the System, and resulted in Higher Taxes!

      The Spiral is always working… Either UP… Or DOWN!

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    • euragone
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:05pm

      Just like a white collar Suit… shooting his mouth off with no clue how airlines work…

      Yeah you would file bankruptcy and put union people in unemployment.. good luck hiring replacement workers to fill 98k positions over night. FAA/OSHA requires two weeks training before then can even set foot on ramp area. It takes about 6 weeks for background checks for EACH Employee per airport who will be working in a secure area, US Customs requires its own background check which can take weeks on top of standard background checks…. about ten years ago AA was Hiring… out of 6000 applicants only 200 qualified…

      Then you have to worry about those low paid employee’s stealing out of your bags.. How about on a rainy or snowy day.. and the employee’s either quit or call in sick and your stuck in the airport for days….or you have to cancel your vacation cause you can’t get their…I’d be more worried about the Low paid employee who looks for money (Terrorism, Drugs, ect…)

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  • sjohn70037
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:35am

    I just can’t tell you how delighted I am to see American Airlines and their worthless employees in such consternation. I have had to endure their poor attitudes, poor performance and rudeness for decades.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:27am

      Ditto!

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    • Crazyotto
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:29am

      I worked for them in 90′s and I can tell you the Unions were well on the way to ruining all semblance of customer service back then. They are certainly are partially to blame.. But I experienced first hand the kind of incredibly poor management style of Bob Crandall. Although he was a fiscal genius and an industry innovator he was also a terribly vindictive and cruel man whose personality leaked down through many of his VP’s and made life pretty miserable for hundreds of middle managers and other employees. What AA/Crandall never understood that Gordon Bethune (at Continental) Herb Kelleher (Southwest) clearly did was that the airline industry is a customer service driven commodity. Having the newest planes and facilities just isn’t enough you have to instill a sense of ownership in the employees themselves. You can’t treat people like garbage and then expect them to treat your customers like gold…Crandall never understood this and neither did his lackeys. As a result you have a dissatisfied work force and a extremely low morale in headquarters… AA should be allowed to go out of business.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:01am

    The head of walmart makes more in an hour than I make in a year.
    Everyone @ the store has had their hours cut.When a worker dies on or off the job the widows and orphan insurance money goes into the management bonus cheque.
    Really?…Really?
    I dont care for unions, but please.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:22am

      With Video Skills like this they can certainly qualify for a Government Job at the GAO !

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:07am

      My sympathy… for your inability to achieve Happiness (Achieve Success based upon one’s individual Ability & Talent, as a Chance to Achieve something Greater, as set in the Declaration Of Independence)… but WTF that’s Life & Reality!

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  • Flyingfish
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:37am

    Silly Unions. All you have to do is each member buy 100 shares of stock. As a whole they’d own quite a big block of the company and could have a say in how it is run.

    No they’d rather just be just like the poeple that they complain about people who put their self interest (greed) in front of the union’s self interest (greed).

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:19am

      Because of Government Administration of Energy… 47% of Airline Costs are in Fuel… Repairs are done in China… and everything else is Wages & Pensions for High Priced Bus Personnel! But, this Good for Obama… as he wants to Nationalize the Industry… and make Taxes Pay and Expenses Invisible!

      IDIOTS… get SUCKED into The Engine!

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    • Duey2000
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:03am

      Um, there are some flight attendants with over $10k in take home pay a MONTH and there are others that take home less than $2k. Tell me how Unions are fair?!?!

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  • garbagecanlogic
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:14am

    This is all these pukes have time to do – stand around and sing and dance, while looking for another hand out from the taxpayer.

    Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

    The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
    The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:06am

      Looks like your username says it all because your comment deserves to be round-filed!

      Where is it that anyone here was looking for “another handout from the taxpayer”? Sorry, not there.

      We (and I don’t even work for AA) just want management to play fair and use the Golden Rule. They give themselves and their buddies in the corporate office raises and bonuses and extra perks all while the rest of the employees are still working under givebacks that were meant to save the company after 9/11. This is at the very least immoral if not criminal. Why should any worker at any company take another pay cut in a situation like this? Maybe it would be better if the whole thing collapsed if it would stop behavior like this.

      And if singing and dancing gets the message out then good for them!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:26am

      @DMG…
      Oh, yes… the Play Ground Rules: Play Fair or I’ll tell my Mommy! Trophies for everyone… Equal Scores & Grades (Rewards)! Make the Janitor the Coach (Executive)… and Pilot by Remote Control from your XBox :)

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  • Boulderite
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:52am

    Union members calling anyone else in the world greedy is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Unions are part of the reason our state and federal economies are in such debt-have to pay those union folks their full salary pensions for life! Have to pay their medical insurance for them with no contribution from them! Too many unions are an excuse to have three people do 1 person’s work at a high rate of pay. That’s one of the reasons county workers always put up a sign when they are “working” on the road “Men at Work” so you don’t question what they are doing standing arounding talking every time you drive by. Unions….I’m sick to death of them!!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:14pm

      If an Organization has a Hierarchical Job Structure… then, why Not Pay Wages, in Hierarchical Increments, in the Hierarchy?

      What Logic dictates that it should be otherwise? Does not the Hunter/Alpha get the first selection of the Meat?

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  • DMG8487
    Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:12am

    GooeyLewie – or is it Low Life Form Lewie?

    “Sit and spin?” You are vile and ignorant. These types of comments are not welcome here – grow up.

    “Rot their business from the inside”? Whose business? It is more ours than theirs since management comes and goes but we the pilots and flight attendants commit to a long term work contract at a single carrier for an entire career in order to advance. And we are the ones they always blame and come after first when they screw things up. Ever notice how you never see a news story about a CEO or management at any airline taking a pay cut? I don’t mind, and have, sacrificed BIG when necessary to keep my company alive — but management still finds a way to reward themselves even when I am still layed off!!!! How is this not theft? Seems to be pretty clear cut criminal behavior.

    And you did not hear the word “pension” from me – my carrier and contract did away with that antiquated system long ago. Anyone who counts on this or Social Security is a fool.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:19am

      Ah, yes… Your Choices have been forced upon you by a Slave Master… and you cannot run away, because of the Chains!

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:10am

      lukerw
      “Ah, yes… Your Choices have been forced upon you by a Slave Master… and you cannot run away, because of the Chains!”

      Are you trying to be humorous? Because you aren’t funny and your comments are mostly incoherent and irrelevant to the specific situation here. So go post on some other site where they find 4th grade snarky remarks like this to be funny. I bet you even think fart jokes are still cool.

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  • AllAmericanGirl22
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:33pm

    Stupid unions, the executives are the greedy ones, really? Funny video though lol.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:21am

      “Stupid Unions”? Really? Please explain why.

      I would be happy to work without one and keep all my money and never pay dues but management at airlines have behaved in a way that has forced us to unionize in order to get many things changed — including, and most importantly, operating in a more safe manner for your benefit as a passenger! Did you know that airlines wanted to pay only 1 pilot per plane to fly you around years ago – and it was only us “stupid unions” who told them that we wouldn’t do anything that dumb? And this is but one example.

      And yes, the executive in this case are the greedy ones. Do a little research before you shoot your mouth off about something you clearly know nothing about. Just look up 1 news article about the pay and work concessions made by the employees at that company and then just try and find 1 about the management there doing the same. Oh, that’s right – you can’t find a corresponding story could you! That’s because the only onese about management are the ones where they got caught giving themselves pay raises and bonuses while everyone else was still working at cut rates!

      Stupid unions indeed – more like ignorant ALLAMERICANGIRL22

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:39am

      Unions evolved from European Guilds… which were Town/City Copyrights to protect against Competition… introducing Apprentice Jobs as Slavery and the only means to enter the Guild.

      Unions developed in the US as means to Keep Out Ethnic Groups… Chinese, Irish, whatever new immigrants… from working in Competition… as a Job & Wage Protection!

      I spell Union with the letter E V I L !

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on June 25, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Stupid unions. Fire them all. 40 hour work week, sick leave and overtime pay, paid holidays, retirement funds, safe workplace environments be damned! It’s not like they are the backbone of the middle class or anything like that.

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  • singray
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:09pm

    There has to be give and take from all sides. Management and labor. Because in the words of these posts is alot of common sense. You say concessions were made, yet they still went Bankrupt. I don’t know what the Upper Management is paid, but I‘m sure it’s alot less than their Debt. Sorta like Greece in a way. No matter what you do,the cuts have to be big. And like Greece all will not like it and resist it. And just like Greece it will fail. Because reality is, if a man expends 2000 calories a day but only consumes 1000 calories a day, he shall die a slow death. So this Airline needs to find a way to balance it’s calorie count. No matter how deprived this employee feels.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:20pm

      BS! Disagreement is the Nature of a Self Centered Individual of a Predator Species… and we Fight & War! There does Not Have To Be “give and take”! What there Has To Be is RESOLUTION!

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  • AmericanBorn
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:41pm

    Note to Union members: Have you looked at who is receiving your union dues and what pockets (besides their own) they are lining. I grew up a union kid – believe me it ain’t the union my father belonged too. Back then Unions really did work for the “entire” force; and not the elite union bosses. I don’t feel one bit of empathy for you.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:30am

      Note to AMERICANBORN

      Please keep your mouth shut if you don’t know what you are talking about.

      I know exactly where my dues are going and why I pay them. We pay dues for many reasons including developing safety programs that benefit you as a passenger (despite how heartless you are) in order to get you to your destination in one piece. But now I might have to reconsider this because I am beginning to think you may not be worth it!!!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:37pm

      @DMG…
      You are truely a Fine Example of Unionism & Activism!

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    • Gringo Lingo
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 4:32pm

      @DMG8487,

      You know, you seem to have stressed out over the comments here. Do you realize that you just threatened to not do your job of keeping the planes safe for passengers? In essence, you are claiming that you would bring a plane down because people like the poster here aren’t worth it? You aren’t that importan my friend and I think homeland security should have a close look at you and your words. Your fellow union workers should be shocked and outraged at your words alos.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:02am

      Hey GringoLingo — Please look up the definitions of the following terms:

      “Joke”
      “Sarcasm”
      “Wit”
      “humor”

      This might help you digest that what I said was not literal. Did you actually think I would endanger my own life? You are such a dolt if you thought this was anything but biting humor.

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  • scrudge
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 8:23pm

    Ah Yes…..for the rest of our present administration…. only JET BLUE pilots will fly air force 1

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  • pissantno.10
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:50pm

    as far as i know if ya dont like your job find a better one. people like rat watcher think that all companies were created to keep his worthless behind employed

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:19pm

      If only that were so easy in the airline world. Clearly you do not understand what is going on here. Pilots and flight attendants especially are the real victims here. We don’t really have the option to just move over in a lateral way to another carrier and do the same job there since all these positions are based upon seniority. CEOs and other upper management can change jobs at will and pay themselves lavishly while we have to rely on longevity at a single carrier to really advance our careers and pay. The system is clearly broken and management knows it and they continue to get cover from the government to game the system by delaying any contract negotiations and then getting whoever is in the White House at the time of a strike to step in and keep labor from ever being able to get a fair deal. Do you have any idea how many YEARS it takes to negotiate a new labor contract? After 9/11 labor gave up big money and benefits to keep their jobs – and management at nearly every carrier has rewarded themselves with bonuses and raises while never giving back a cent of the concessions made by labor to keep these companies viable. It would be nice to see a law finally stopping this clearly unethical behavior from continuing. Just play fair. That is all we really are asking.

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    • gooeylewie
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:18pm

      DMG8487
      I heard the word pension, that translates to (in reals-villeise) as paying people to not work for the rest of their life.

      So, labor is half at fault, the other half of blame goes to the airline for allowing a union to rot their business from the inside.

      And I’m so tired of hearing that __________________ is the real victim here.

      Sit and spin.

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    • ontheclock247
      Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:24am

      @DMG8487 “After 9/11 labor gave up big money and benefits to keep their jobs”

      Let’s tell the whole truth about that concession in 2002. As a long time AA employee, I know what happened in those years. Not one union worker has ever mentioned that in 2000 they got huge increases – most mechanics received a 20% increase because AA was matching Delta’s incredible increases to their employees. Less than a year later, after 911 and the blows the industry took, there were concessions not just from union workers, but from us all! The union always trots out the 17% cut they took while management took a 7% cut. Well, management didn’t get any increases for years before or after 911 (and management isn’t all top executives – it’s 98% mid-level modestly paid accountants, engineers, secretaries, and administrative employees). Management went back to the level of 1997 pay, while union workers ended up 3% above their pay just a year previous to 911. Not one union member ever says that, but we always hear, “Woe is me…they stole our pay!” Middle management is still at ‘97 pay, and unions have gotten increases regularly since. Yes, the system is broken, when a union stock clerk makes more than highly skilled, experienced, loyal accountants, engineers, and administrators who are also necessary for the airline to run. When union productivity has been about 48% for years, how can an airline run. AA used to be #1. I blame upper management for not managing well, but greed for the res

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  • Individualism
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:21pm

    peaceful union protest is a good thing, unions are not all bad and evil same case with execs and ceos, the web is the future for messages when baby boomers are gone it will be the best way to get views.

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  • BeingThere
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:15pm

    Why not make a video protesting the way the Nazi motherfrakers of the TSA treat your customers???

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    • dmforman
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 9:24am

      I refuse to fly with my child. It’s too much of a hassle. If we can’t drive there, we don’t go. TSA is not keeping us any safer, just taking away more of our rights slowly.

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  • scuba13
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:06pm

    Maybe the union would be happy if American Airlines just shut everything down and went out of business.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:26pm

      Again, you also clearly are not informed of the full story here. Executives at AA have consistently given themselves bonuses and raises all while knowing that the company was struggling. How about making them give it back or take pay cuts first since all the labor at this company has already made big sacrifices in compensation and benefits since 9-11 that have not been restored.

      All of us airline employees just want management to play fair. I work for a different carrier but the story is the same at my company too. We gave up big money and benefits to keep the airline viable and what reward did we get for our sacrifices? — Mangagement gave themselves bonuses!!! I think this is outright theft and should be illegal. If every employee had shared in an equal profit sharing payout then that would be one thing but management has chosen to just reward themselves – even when they really shouldn’t and instead should have been sacrificing along with the rest of us to keep the company alive throught the hard times.

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  • normalmom
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:01pm

    American airlines CEO’s are just an example of others all across the country. When the car companies were bailed out the CEO’s and such took millions and then took off. This is just one out of many.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:15pm

      What car companies are you talking about? In what country? ’cause that isn’t what happened to the government takeover of the 2 car companies here

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:43pm

    The Chicken Dance.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:26pm

    It’s a New York judge, you already know how he is going to rule.

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  • Sicboy
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:19pm

    Greed is one of those words used in the Bible. Please stop being a dupe for Capitalism. Yes Capitalism is the best economic principle. But, there hasn‘t beena ’free market‘ in years and right now all we have is ’crony capitalism’. Open your eyes before you open your mouth.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:57pm

    So American Airlines sucks from the ground up? Don’t worry; I’m sure this is one more entity too big to fail.

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  • bikerdogred1
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:55pm

    Fly yourself right out of a job and a good job at that.

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  • barber2
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:50pm

    “Greed” is one of the parroted buzz words of our OWS / anti-capitalism / Far Lefty Democrats ! All ties in with Obama’s “ sharing their frustration” and his anti-bank, anti-CEOs / anti-corporate rhetoric. ( Remember the ACORN bull horns in bankers’ front yards…so long ago ? ) Translation : Like Bill Ayers, I Want To “ Change” ( shhhh….sounds nicer than DESTROY ! ) Capitalism ! Oh, my, folks but this is soooooo transparent ! Translation: WAKE UP, AMERICA : they want to crash your economic system ! ( but shhhh……they haven’t quite come out of the closet yet ! )

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:36pm

    If the top isn’t doing right, they deserve every pop to the chops. Never said all unions are evil, sometimes just greedy. So can the top be. Bankruptcy should be the great equalizer, both sides have to give some. This case-the union could be right. (That was painfull)

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    • ratwatcher
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:58pm

      IT’s ABOUT TIME the AA unions start fighting the CROOKS running AMR. Right after 9-11, pilots gave up 30% of their salaries to help the company. Everyone made concessions EXCEPT those in the leather chairs laughing at their minions over their mahogany executive desks. Since 2006, the pilots have had no contract, which extended the 30% less pay by 6 years, at last count. And what have the powers in the board room done? They’ve over and over again, awarded themselves bonuses and other niceties.

      So what do these elites at AA/AMR do this week? They propose even FURTHER decreases in pay — something like another 20%!!!

      I hope all of you egotistical *bleep*s rot in *bleep* for all eternity! You have NO IDEA how difficult you have made for thousands of pilots who can barely pay grocery bills, even though cars are paid off, etc.

      Rot in hades.

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    • FatManChew
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:47pm

      @Ratwatcher It wasn’t the guys in the leather chair that treats the people flying like crap. It‘s the lazy employees who never smile and treats their customers like they’re asking too much for basic services. When I fly Jetblue or other carriers I get the service that keeps me coming back.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:36pm

    oh good more whining from the irrelevant unions. funny but if any non unionized worker pulled this trash they would be fired. must be nice to be grandfathered in with ridiculous benefits pay union dues that go to the real thieves, the union bosses and be so blinded as to blame the company and executives from which you extort your inflated pay.

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    • barber2
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:52pm

      Hey, now don’t just blame the union bosses ! What about the Democrats politicians who get all of that donation money ? Oh, it’s just grand how the money changes hands….so symbiotic !

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:37pm

      Irrelevant unions? Really? Do you know how many lives have been saved because of the Air Line Pilots Association? Who do you think pioneered air safety? The executives? Do a little research and you will find that it was us, the pilots, who formed a union and forces management not to do stupid things like have 1 man cockpit crews!

      As far as you idiotic comments about ridiculous pay or benefits – you clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Do you have any idea how little your pilots are being payed these days? A McDonald’s manager makes more than I do now – and I fly for a major carrier!!! We have made huge sacrifices in the hopes that one day we will see a return for our willingness to help our company survive – but I am beginning to doubt that day will ever come.

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    • gooeylewie
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:22pm

      DMG8487
      and unions gave us the weekend….
      how about naming a positive that a union has done lately.

      union have a purpose in a Capitalist system… but we haven’t had a Capitalist system in over 100 years. Someday if unions are needed again – like in the industrial revolution – I will support them. However, once they become more parasitic then beneficial, they have to go as they have served their purpose.

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    • DMG8487
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:46am

      gooeylewie

      “and unions gave us the weekend….
      how about naming a positive that a union has done lately.”

      OK — How about TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) or GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) or relief crew members for extended overwater operations for safety reasons, or CRM (Cockpit Resource Management) training and program development. This is to name but a few improvements in airline operations pushed for by us useless and obsolete union members.

      Don’t get caught up in this “every union is a bad thing” propaganda. I agree that unions are not always a good thing but on the whole in this industry it has been a major plus for both the employees and the traveling public. I would love to not have to pay dues and work for a management team that treated me the same way they did their buddies in the coroporate office but that just isn’t the story going on here. There is an old saying that says it all: “companies that deserve unions get unions.”

      union have a purpose in a Capitalist system… but we haven’t had a Capitalist system in over 100 years. Someday if unions are needed again – like in the industrial revolution – I will support them. However, once they become more parasitic then beneficial, they have to go as they have served their purpose.

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