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Unions, Far-Right Protesters Clash on the Streets of Germany

BERLIN (AP) — German police fired tear gas and water cannons to keep apart groups of far-right supporters and thousands of counterdemonstrators trying to hinder their rally in an eastern city Saturday, police said.

Hundreds of leftist protesters in Dresden tried to break through police barriers, hurling rocks and fireworks at officers who responded with baton charges, tear gas and pepper spray.

About 1,000 far-right supporters were at three court-approved rallies or on their way there early Saturday afternoon, police said.

A far larger number of counterdemonstrators – supported by unions, democratic parties and civil society groups – were in the city trying to prevent them from going ahead, police added. Three protesters were arrested.

Dresden authorities said earlier this week it expects at least 3,000 far-right supporters from Germany and elsewhere and around 20,000 counterdemonstrators to gather.

The annual protest rally constitutes one of Europe’s biggest far-right gatherings, usually held earlier in February to commemorate the anniversary of a deadly Allied bombing at the end of World War II.

Raids by British and U.S. bombers on Feb. 13-14, 1945 set off firestorms and destroyed the centuries-old city center. In 2008, a panel commissioned by German state officials found that the firebombing killed up to 25,000 people – lower than scholars’ previous estimates.

City officials, state politicians, unions and civil society groups each year hold rallies – hugely outnumbering the far-right supporters – protesting far-right attempts to exploit the city’s painful past.

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  • Its Gonna Getcha
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:48pm

    Praying the military, all the military in the world, are with the people if the people are peaceful.

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  • Rob
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:42pm

    I have been reading up on Hitler for a class I am taking.. it SURE sounds a lot like Obama.

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    • JP4JOY
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Hitler was undoubtably the better orator, he didn’t have a teleprompter.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:37pm

      How so?

      Has Obama destroyed rival political parties? suppressed independent labor unions? stifled freedom of speech or the press? stripped racial minorities of citizenship? established a secret political police?
      murdered dissident members of his own party? suspended the Constitution in toto, indefinitely?

      All these things and more, Hitler had accomplished before he had been in power for two years.

      I’d be interested to know more about your class, and what you have been reading–about Hitler and also about Obama!

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  • somecat
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:29pm

    Yeah protests, counter-protests happen.. so what. It takes a lot of effort and mental gymnastics to some how relate this to anything else anywhere. Coming insurrection? I think not. The 1960s were much closer to the fevered imaginations of this age then the reality of this relatively calm time of peaceful change.

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    • troyvar
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Just wait until that Iranian frigate, loaded with a couple tons of yellow cake, drops the instant martyr button in the middle of the Suez. The 60s will look like a kindergarten birthday party.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:49pm

      For anyone who wants to know what real worldwide mayhem looks like, I recommend immersion in the events of the year 1919.

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  • Greg8812
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:27pm

    There is not much different between the two. One is Communist the other is National Socialist.

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    • pennswoods
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:48pm

      Correct. Communists are class hating Socialists and the National Socialists are nationalist race hating Socialists. Both hate (hated) capitalism and religion and the traditions and values of Western Civilization. They are both back again with a vengence but the Communists are making the most noise as we can see in Wisconsin and all over the world today.

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    • redyanqui
      Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:38pm

      actually, under the 3rd reich, privatization occurred just as much as nationalization did. a good example is the armaments industry. formerly controlled by the Heer, it was later privatised. when the nazi government ordered anti-tank rockets(for the panzershrek) the government wanted to pay 24rm(reichsmarks) the companies producing them wanted 35rm per rocket. it ended with the deal being 32rm per rocket. if nazis were so into nationalization then why didnt they just nationalize the industry and produce them for less than 24rm?

      in a general sense, there was a development of an aristocracy in germany where large industrialists, military industrialists, and financiers were the creme of the crop along side high ranking party officials and high ranking officers. that is not socialism. in fact, unions, liberals, even old school german conservatives were ostracized in that society.

      compare that with the soviet union.

      for 8 years after the civil war a program called the NEP(New Economic Program) was developed to restore industrial and agricultural output to pre WWI levels(it had dropped by nearly 90%) this was a time before collectivization so capitalism was actually allowed to develop(because capitalism was a pre-requisite for socialism and capitalism hadnt fully taken hold of russia) there were many disputes but the workers and the soviets(workers councils) were supported in virtually every dispute with the capitalists in russia. at the end of the 20s, collectivization began and the series of 5 year economic plans started.

      these plans were to develop mother(heavy) industry to allow for heavy equipment to be produced so then medium and then consumer industries could be built. this time though, all industry was publicly controlled.

      (On the subject of the famine in the 30s, drought is hardly a rare thing for russia and ukraine, in the 1890s, in some areas, 1 in 6 died of starvation due to drought, because of this, the soviet union needed to implement petro-agriculture like fertilizers and pesticides which didnt exist because of the economic backwardness of the russian empire and early soviet union)

      and an interesting note. the Red Army went through a period of reorganizing where there was no pvt to sgt in the enlisted ranks of the military, and the officers corps was streamlined. WWII happened before the reorganization could have all the kinks worked out so ultimately the red army was pushed back. the focus was not armaments but industry. as we all know, that changed in 1943.

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Many of the workers in Germany are arabic/turkish. Most are in their respective unions. They, the unions/muslims) fear the far-right, the neo-nazis want to retake the country from the foreign workers, ie kick them out. Neither group fits nicely into “our” definitions of left-right.

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  • TMan2020
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:47pm

    So who’s rioting, far-left or far-right?

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  • CrackerSmurf
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:32pm

    The world was fun. how much longer do we have a year? 2? maybe 3? this is going to suck. God bless America.

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  • Fight for America
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:32pm

    Regularly scheduled ANNUAL Protests – okay – the human race is nuts.

    Testosterone and adrenaline may destroy us.

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  • Randyrocker
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:08pm

    Obama can’t even tie his own shoelaces anymore, and that’s a hard row to hoe for someone whose real rank in life should only be at the level of a shoeshine boy.

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  • Steveareno
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:07pm

    Can someone explain to me what exactly is going on in Dresden?

    I don’t understand and the article is not clear.

    Germany declared war on the United States. Germany started sinking our ships. We, later, began a bombing campaign. Dresden was a totally unnecessary target, this I acknowledge. However, the purpose of the Dresden bombing was to send a message to the German people and their leaders that the Allies were coming and we would destroy Germany in the process. The Germans, stupidly, didn’t get the message.

    Why are the right-wing people commemorating a tragedy that the German people and their leaders brought on themselves? It is indeed a celebration of stupidity on Germany’s part, and perhaps, to a lesser extent on the Allies’ part.

    I personally think the bombing of Dresden was a tragedy. I would have loved to visit Dresden. On the other hand, Dresden serves as a reminder that no country or terrorist group should make war on the United States. And because of this I feel the uncanny experience of both sadness and pride at Dresden’s fate.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:21pm

      By February 1945 it was abundantly clear to all Germans that “the Allies were coming.”

      The bombing of Dresden was as much a British as an American operation, and its main justification was support for the Soviet offensive into eastern Germany.

      Commemorating it is a way of playing up Germany’s claim to “victim” status in World War II.

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    • Steveareno
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 1:34am

      Thanks Lloyd Drako.

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  • KL
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:57pm

    This is all going according to plan, now all that is needed is for Obama to step in and save the day. Terrific. Bottom up, top down, inside out.

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  • BarryWhistlerSoetoro
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:54pm

    Riddle me this how many of those left/union protesters come out and support the millions of Jews killed.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:29pm

      What exactly should they be doing to “support” people who have been dead for 70 years?

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  • swega
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:53pm

    I’m missing something here. When one speaks of the “far-right” in Germany, it usually has bad connotations. I’m I understanding that they were non-violent but the far-left was throwing rocks and the like?

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  • Randyrocker
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:43pm

    The Unions around the world are on the march and this will only cause shutdowns, riots, violence and more mayhem. Only leading to more subversive power plays on the part of those in authority.
    Once it gets out of hand, the entire world will be on strike, starving for answers from the present fools in government who’ve been responsible in the first place for this outcome. Sheer madness is at hand.

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  • silentwatcher
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:31pm

    WOW…..and the disease spreads quickly, feeding on itself.

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  • Rightsofman
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:31pm

    Who is protesting what? I don’t get it. Plz clarify.Tks.

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:31pm

    Is the world on fire? The one word that stands out to me is “Unions”. Every place in the world where there is violence I see the word “union” mentioned. They are terrorists. We must stand strong & follow God’s lead. He Wins Always.

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Just a word, I am in a union. I work for the DOT in the state of RI. Over the last twelve years we have had 2 %10 pay cuts(lasting 1 year each), had our pension rates lowered (37years for %60) and I give $6000 per year towards it. Have to be 62 to collect your pension. Had 7 cola’s in 12 years (%2 each) gave up 5 colas. Been made to pay $6230 per year for family health care(3 people) used to be $0 – 15 years ago. And this year 13 furlough days, report to work and not get paid for it. My point is, we have not fought these things because we know how bad times are. NOT ALL UNIONS ARE BAD.
      These cuts have hurt my family, I now work two jobs and we are still sinking. BUT!!!! what really tweaks my azz is that welfare people did get the cola’s and received a raise in food assistance along with free medical that is better than mine! I get up 6am everyday day and take pride in my work…why am I punished when people who watch “Scooby Do” everyday rewarded???? fogive my rant, but these people in WI should be ashamed! We must stick together in hard times. Most union members do not realize that the union leaders have betrayed them! FWIW

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:25pm

      SORRY for the double post..first was slow to show up so I did it again

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:34pm

      Sane

      Time to sell your house and buy a large yacht. Move your family onto the boat. I hear Sen John Kerry D,Mass (Who served in Vietnam) found a sweet deal where he could register his yacht in RI and not pay his Mass taxes. Spent many days in Wickford’s Top of the Dock and The Wreck in Misquamicut. Your state and mine, CT, love paying leeches and illegals

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:11pm

      13th; Do you have that right! RI new gov is out of control! We have a 350mill budget short fall and first thing he does is get rid of E-verify, proclaim RI a save haven for illegals and wants gay marrige? Not a word about the budget or taxes ect. Now you know where my screen name comes from, I no longer know if I am sane surrounded by these people.

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  • RN MOM
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:27pm

    Are the unions attempting to destabilize Europe? Uhh, ohh…looks like Beck was right again- it is as if he stole the playbook.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:30pm

      The Unions are actually protesting the far right elements (= Neo Nazis) so I‘d say they’re on the correct side here.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Joe Bite-Me left the playbook on the ACELA train he rides for FREE, as he commutes from Delunaware.

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    • JROCCOD
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:58pm

      In concert with the islamists I think we can say lights out in Europe. The imminent danger is the American useful idiots who would suppport and defend such destabalization here in the states.

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    • Rob@AmPre
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:09pm

      @non- I‘d agree with you if they weren’t being violent.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 9:04am

      Meh, Neo Nazis deserve every punch in the face they get tbqh. If there are some people willing to provide that, they have my blessing.

      You know, Germans REALLY hate Nazis for some reason.

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  • Mister_Bill
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:25pm

    Isn’t this what Francis Fox Piven wants? Riots and unrest all over the world. Then the shadow government will come in and help to restore order. If these are far right groups, what does this tell us about the bigotry of the left. They can protest, but someone with an opposing view must be shut down. Good for Authoritarian rule but not Democratic representation.

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  • B-Neil
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:24pm

    Its going to be a lively summer. Make sure you have plenty of snacks for when you watch it on TV…….Carry on McDuff

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    • Dale
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:44pm

      Now if only al gore’s global warming would kick in.

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  • roxee
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:24pm

    The world is on Fire! May God help us all!

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:33pm

      agreed!! We all need to stick together!!

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    • knotaclu
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:48pm

      food storage people, food storage….

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    • roxee
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:58pm

      We are awake to the years of fraud, and coruption,they will NOT win, world wide.Enough!

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  • Robert-CA
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:23pm

    Open a local Union = Open new riot police department .

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:16pm

      Just a word, I am in a union. I work for the DOT in the state of RI. Over the last twelve years we have had 2 %10 pay cuts(lasting 1 year each), had our pension rates lowered (37years for %60) and I give $6000 per year towards it. Have to be 62 to collect your pension. Had 7 cola’s in 12 years (%2 each) gave up 5 colas. Been made to pay $6230 per year for family health care(3 people) used to be $0 – 15 years ago. And this year 13 furlough days, report to work and not get paid for it. My point is, we have not fought these things because we know how bad times are. NOT ALL UNIONS ARE BAD.
      These cuts have hurt my family, I now work two jobs and we are still sinking. BUT!!!! what really tweaks my azz is that welfare people did get the cola’s and received a raise in food assistance along with free medical that is better than mine! I get up 6am everyday day and take pride in my work…why am I punished when people who watch “Scooby Do” everyday rewarded????

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    • Steverino
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:30pm

      SANE_I THINK:
      You sir, (or ma’am) are doing the right thing. I believe most MEMBERS of unions are doing the right thing. You get up and go to work, and take pride in what you do.
      It’s the leadership that is at fault, generally speaking.
      There is no excuse for the welfare state. Period.
      Good luck and God bless!
      Steve

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:40pm

      I was talking in general . I don’t like their tactics , they’re anti private sector .
      The benefits are good but @ what price & I’m talking here about a long term period .
      My boss was forced to overturn his company to a union one or else they were gonna ban him from getting contracts with schools , so basically it’s the union or the door .
      Who hires employees ? Public sector & private sector .
      Unions declared war on the private sector & once the private sector stops hiring who’s left out there ? the public sector , so here we are the Fed is broke the State is broke where they’re gonna come up with the $$$$$$$$$$ ?
      Everybody loves benefits & pensions & all of that , but again @ what expense ?

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    • KeithOlberdink
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 5:02pm

      Sane I Think….My thumb and index finger is rubbing together, know what it is? The worlds smallest violin. I’m in the private sector, what’s a pension?

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 3:14pm

      Keith, worlds smallest violin..good one. Nice to know that you take pleasure in my hardship. You sir, are a credit to the cause. I do not know what you do for a living, but it is not my fault that your employment does not offer a retirement. I chose to be a public servant at a salary %30 less than the private sector in exchange for benefits and security. Now, after 23 years I have given up much $ for nothing. I pay for my pension..it is not a gift. I did not write that post for sympathy, but for informational purposes. The majority of unions are out of control! but not all. Best of luck in finding a better job, planning for your future or starting a successful business.

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  • conservative cyclingfan1
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:23pm

    The Protests are contagious!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Not really. This is an annual thing (as stated in the article) and I can‘t see how it’s even news.

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    • constitutionparty
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:14pm

      What is not an annual thing is the 20,000 counter-protesters showing up and becoming violent. If you have the same rally every year it is not news but an organized counter-rally is. Keep your head in the sand if you want but this is just empowering the violent masses.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 9:22am

      I agree with Jackers…Far Right is a definition made by progressives to undermine the mainstream who have had enough!!!

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:20pm

    I guess today is the world day of Union Bash and Mayhem Festivities.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:30pm

      Can someone tell me how the union screams we are not getting enough money then put $230 mil. (AFSME) and $150 mil. (SEIU), if I remember correctly, into elections? I have not been able to come up with an answer.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:30pm

      @J.C.

      I have not understood the means they use either; yet I would imagine some or all of it is questionable to highly illegal if it could ever be proven, and even then the self annointed one would never allow any kind of prosecution to be enacted.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:27pm

      J C & Snow:

      Labor has taken advantage of the Citizens United decision to ramp up political contributions, exactly as capital has done–only not to the same extent. What the unions have done on that score is perfectly legal.

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  • joseph mitch nixon
    Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:20pm

    i do hope the germans will eliminate all the factors who oppose the freedom and free market .

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Now the far right in that country is communism? I dont think they are the freedom,individual loving right in this country

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    • azmomof6
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:37pm

      Do these people even know what they are protesting and believe in it? Or are they just being used by someone for political gain?

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    • cnsrvtvj
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:48pm

      The whole world is going insane. Is there anywhere left on earth where people are living peacefully? The Middle East is looking pretty bad today, we have unrest here, and now Germany is getting violent.

      http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Muslim Brotherhood video

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:17pm

      I didn’t know there was a Wisconsin, Germany.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:20pm

      @CnsrvtvJ

      Beck and others warned it would spread into Europe, and when Germany goes away, the rest will fall soon afterwards.

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    • Templar Knight
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:43pm

      So let me get this straight. The Leftist protesters are being violent where as the protesters on the right were peaceful? *gasp* Say it ain’t so.

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    • redyanqui
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:07pm

      The far right demonstrators are Nazi sympathizers holding some sort of remembrance of the Dresden city firebombing. this happens anually in Dresden. some 10-70k nazis come out, 100-200k anti-fascists come out.

      the anti-fascist demonstrators are completely justified in trying to smash these fascist b@stards.

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    • HITLER-HIDING-IN-SF
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:55pm

      Nothingbuthetruth,
      The far right are the Neo Nazis not Comunists,the left is more in that direction.
      I hope they learned their lesson a long time ago, but it doesn’t look like.

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    • donald_trump's_combover
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:55pm

      OH JESUS! The whole world’s on fire!! It’s the COMING INSURRECTION!! Quick everybody! Duck and cover!

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    • Elliotac
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Nazis are not far right, they are to the right of communists but they are still the left.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:15pm

      In Europe, the far right is Fascism while the left is the same as our left, Communism.
      Both are massive, oppressive, omnipotent government, just with slightly different application.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Germans have had quite enough of talk of “eliminating,” thank you very much!

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    • chazman
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 6:28pm

      Ahhh … history repeating itself once again, right before our very eyes.

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    • mcfinch
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:46pm

      That looks a bit dangerous.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • redyanqui
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:00pm

      is no one aware of the history of communists fighting against fascists?

      Besides WWII, the spanish civil war is probably the best example.

      the soviet union and mexico were the ONLY 2 nations to openly support he republican government against the fascist Francisco Franco(who the US supported).

      The Abraham Lincoln Brigade is something to look up. American volunteers who went to spain to fight fascism and defend a democratically elected government.

      at the same time, fascist italy send 50,000 troops to help prop up franco, and Nazi germany sent the Kondor Legion(Luftwaffe) to assist the fascists in an air support role.

      you all know the famous Guernica painting right? that was about the bombing of Guernica by the German air force.

      in WWII, 27,000,000 Soviet citizens and military personnell fought to smash German Nazism, 400,000 US soldiers(who i commend in their valiant effort to fight off fascism) died fighting german Nazism as well. but, roughly 3/4s of the German war effort was focused on defeating the soviet union.

      and yes im a communist.

      and yes, the only good fascist is a dead fascist.

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    • DisillusionedDaily
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:22pm

      This is the Europe our president wants us to be like! Not for me. I don’t even want to visit there any more.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:32pm

      @Daily

      If you had ever spent any time in Germany you would have a different attitude.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 4:22am

      This is as much the coming insurrection as GB is Jesus…
      Whenever Nazi-Protesters try to hold ralleys in germany there are groups of democratic parties, unions and also far left protesters that try to hinder them. Most of the time it works.

      And yes, it is widely accepted outside of the american far right, that Nazi ARE the farrest right there is. You may scream “small goverment” all you want, but in the end the right leads to fascism. As is to be seen in many posts on this site, you just have to look. In the end far right goverments will fullfill the “will of their people” and they will fight all the enemies from within, be it yews, blacks, democrats, gays or maybe christians.

      BTW, national-socialism is just a word, using the “socialism” part in it to proof it is far left is…dumb.

      All in all this is nothing too special in germany and still it is one of the most peacefull countries of the whole world. Look up some statistics, there are rarely more boring places out there…

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 5:41am

      @Foreign

      It’s scary how many people are misinformed. But clearly half the posters here either didnt read the article or have no reading comprehension.

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    • Jackers
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 7:30am

      In Europe, just as here in America, “Far-Right” equals the mainstream…

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 7:53am

      Which is just wrong.

      In Germany the “right” or better conservative party is the CDU, the christian democratic union. They are in most things LEFT of the democrats here. Do some research. European mainstream is more liberal than NY…

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    • Jackers
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 8:10am

      @ Foreignwatcher… Whenever Conservatives in Europe – England, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, whatever – stand up against the never-ending onslaught of mass Muslim immigration and illegal immigration, these citizens are slandered by the Liberal media as “Far-Right” as if to suggest that they’re a small group of anti-immigrant, racist “protectionists”…

      More and more Europeans are joining this “Far-Right” movement for the sake of sanity; therefore, making this so-called “small group” a mainstream movement…

      I’ve done my homework.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 8:46am

      Then perhaps do some more, for you are still wrong.

      The right may state that they are the “silent majority” and victims of the liberal media all day long, but that doesnt change that they get rarely more than 5% of the votes anywhere in europe, some exceptions granted.
      Not only does the media slander this “movement”, nobody votes for them either.

      Dont believe what Geerd Wilders says, he just tries to be a little bit like Glenn Beck.

      Every government in Europe, perhaps except Hungary at the moment, is left of the republicans, mostly far left for you people here.
      Pro choice
      Pro gun control
      Pro organised health care
      Pro social security

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    • redyanqui
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 11:51am

      @Jackers

      The european far-right does not equal the “main stream” most europeans are not fascists or national socialists.
      the use of the term “far right” is not slander, it is accurate labeling.

      to suggest immigration is justification for National Socialism(racism is core to the ideology) or National Syndicalism(fascism, but does not have the tennant of racism as a pillar) is insane. but, it is true that some people are turning to these movements. why? there is not a strong socialist or communist movement in some of those countries(though they are much stronger than in the US, PCF, KKE). even then though, some people wont hear it and will just move on to support nazis.

      by defending the far right demonstrators, you are apologizing for the atrocities brought on by the 3rd reich.

      hell, i wouldnt even liken the tea party to them yet. (i label the tea party as a proto-fascist movement only because your Anti NWO militias arent running around the streets like the freikorps did yet.)

      anyways, back to the point.

      middle eastern and northafrican immigration is the result of a regional economy that is not sovereign but dominated by Europe and the US. much like latin american immigration to the us is the result of US domination of those economies (see NAFTA, Article 21 of the Mexican Constitution, Ejidos, Contras, war on drugs)

      its sort of like in Northern Ireland, during the booming economy, many poles were invited to work there to send money back to poland, now that the economy is bad, you have people who like C18 and the BNP firebombing and bricking polish homes.

      sorry if this seemed like a bit of a scatterbrained rant, just woke up.

      ill just end it with this. throwing stones at Nazis and fascists is fine. (see Benito Mussolini)

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