Unrest Spreads to Ohio: Tea Party Member Verbally Attacked During Wis-Style Budget Protest
- Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:19am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The growing unrest in Wisconsin over emergency budget measures that would strip public unions of many collective bargaining privileges — and force members to contribute to their pensions and health care — seems to be spreading. This week, hundreds have demonstrated in Tennessee and Indiana while thousands gathered in Ohio. It was there where Tea Party members where allegedly subjected to angry, verbal abuse.
The group Truth About Bills claims to have shot video of a “union thug” ranting about the Tea Party at the Ohio State Capitol during a Wisconsin-style budget protest.
“We have insider video of a Union member at the S.B.5 debate shouting down a Tea Party member without any antagonization,” the group explains on its website. S.B.5 is the state bill that would, like Wisconsin, strip public unions of many of their collective bargaining rights. And like in Wisconsin, opponents have showed up in droves to protest — including this guy, who used very explicit and graphic language to express his opinion (including comparing the Tea Party to Nazis):
[Content WARNING: Contains strong language that may offend, and may be inappropriate for, some.]
The Hitler comparisons have been prominent in the Wisconsin protests, too. One man in Madison caught a woman with a sign comparing the state’s governor to the Nazi leader. But he also captured someone calling for revolution in the background:
The proposal in Ohio is based on the same budget woes plaguing Wisconsin. Ohio Gov. John Kasich, citing an estimated $8 billion budget gap, wants to restrict union rights for state workers and in townships, cities, counties, school districts and publicly funded universities. The legislation would generally eliminate salary schedules.
Kasich drew support Thursday from local tea party leader Ted Lyons, an electronics executive from Troy, Ohio, who said the proposed union changes are long overdue. “The labor unions have become so powerful now on a worldwide basis,” Lyons said. “It’s beyond just the benefits of the membership, it’s about all the spending.”
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Comments (414)
the_ancient
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:04amOver the years I have, as has anyone that has worked a real job, had employer reduce, cut or change my pay benefits etc, often lowering them due to money problems with in the company or changes in cost (i.e almost everyone has their medical plan go up annually or biannually in the private sector).
When faced with these changes I can either, except them, find away to make myself MORE valuable to the company thus earning more money, or find a new company to work for.
What I CAN NOT do is call in sick like a whiny little baby and “protest” at the boss home.
To the public unions, get over yourselves. 90% of the population would survive just fine with out you. We, the taxpayers, have no more money left to give you have bleed us dry. The gravy train is over, you do not like it, find a new job that pays what you feel you deserve.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:57amaren’t all the little commies cute with their Hitler signs and slogans to tax the rich? Well, they are playing fire, and the silent moral majority will be speaking too, real soon, we’re not gonna sit around and watch this country spin into anarchy, are we? These union thugs, and yes they are thugs, are going to caues much trouble all over the country. They are greedy little bastards, and won’t give up a dime to pay for their own benifits and pensions? We in the private sector WISH we had it as good as the public sector and unions, they pay nothing! I say it is about time EVERYONE in America make a sacrifice for our Nation. I respect the right to protest, just as long as it does not become violent! And to those pusses hiding out in Illinois, get a backbone, do your duty, take the vote! And to all the leaders and agitators, agents of change, better be damn careful what you do from here on out….the majority spoke in November, remember that vote? Don’t screw up leftists, unions and agitators…we KNOW WHO you are too!
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:57amWe are seeing the logical conclusion of the failed idea that governments should provide for our childrens’ education. Now that it is becoming overwhelmingly clear that the 120 year experiment is a miserable failure, there is widespread unrest due to the uncertainty of the future.
Most of these people, unlike Wall Street and the big banks, have been getting their “bail out” up front. They have been propped up by governments with money stolen from taxpayers and paid too much for mediocre performance for years. If teachers want collective bargaining “rights” then privatize all of the schools and let each tax payer pay directly for the education of their children.
If individuals were allowed to pay for the education of their children directly I bet there would be a lot less of this mediocrity in our school systems.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:39amI support tax breaks for homeschooling
Report Post »and reductions in the workforce or reduced schedules
Whostolemypig
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:57amYour kids are being taught by union thugs.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:16amhttp://www.edutopia.org/autism-school-special-needs
Report Post »Karen D.
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:56amYay!!!! Glad this vid is getting out! (considering I’m friends with the creators of Truth about Bills)
Report Post »PatriotPete
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:51amMy wife said to me last night this is America we’re not gonna have a Cairo. After watching these videos of I have to say that the potential for something big is there and not a far reaching remote possibility. Why do Libs always thing that the rich have gotten all of their money by ill gotten gain? Sure there are some in the uber rich group that have. But if you look at how much of their money is given away to Charity or invested in companies who create new products, services, and therefore new jobs it would amaze most. And what about private property? These same people would say that their money is theirs to do with as they please. Why is it not the same for successful people? If you punish success you will eliminate those that are successful and take away the reason for anybody to achieve financial success. I’d be like why bother if the Government is going to just take my private property away from me and give distribute it how they see fit to others. I may six figures and I came from a poor background. I’m successful because I take the time to read and learn my trade (IT Field) and because I have an extremely strong work ethic. When I look at my taxes roughly a quarter of my day is working for the Government and for someone who doesn’t deserve the fruits of my labor. The problem with their line of thinking is that you will eventually punish success to the point that nobody wants to be successful. And there is nobody at the top to tax and take care of them.
Report Post »Rob@AmPre
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:31amYour confusion is caused by assuming that you are dealing with rational people.
Report Post »iamsaved
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:50amIt’s time these union parasites are reigned in. Unions are not about the employees as they’ve so deceitfully brainwashed public employees to believe. These employees need to follow the money and ask the hard questions of their union officials – why are union dues going toward re-electing Democrats and very litte going toward the needs of their workers?
I understand union pension plans are in danger of becoming insolvent. Why aren’t the union dues going toward shoring those funds up?
These mamby-pamby, liberal, do-gooders should stop patting themselves on the back about how great their teaching skills are. If that were the case, kids wouldn’t be leaving school dumber than stumps. Maybe if the unions got out of the way and administrative costs were cut in half, good money might be put to better use.
As to paying toward their healthcare and pensions, even Federal employees pay 1/3 of their healthcare premiums each month and 8 percent toward their retirement. What makes these state employee prima donnas think they shouldn’t contribute to their own welfare?
Maybe a Reaganesque “air traffic controller” moment is necessary in some of these states.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:04amAgreed. Gov Walker needs to do what the great Pres Reagan did, throw the bums out!!
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:07amAgreed. It’s time for Gov Walker to do what the great Pres. Reagan did, throw the bums out!!
Report Post »Boojer56
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:50amCan you feel the intelligence in these people? Yeah Me either.
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:49amOH BOY! remember the 60′s?!….Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, were finally on our own….Vuja De…all over again!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:47amLiberals don’t like to see their free ride end, don’t like to see their power fade, and since they aren’t mature will resort to violence to keep their ill gotten gains.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:41amNot to worry, unlike Wisconsin, we’re armed to the teeth here in the Buckeye state. CCW and no-license open carry are in full effect. These bussed in out-of-state thugs incite violence at their own peril. Let’s hope for peace.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:47amIt‘s all falling into place like it’s supposed to and Obama is backing them even encouraging them to take to the streets,get total unrest in this nation, then he will call for marshal law,his goal is to make it easier for the radical muslums to take a strong foot hold.but you say this is Unions uprising,yes it is but it’is to get the eyes of Americans focused on the riots,then he will plan his stragety
Report Post »Axeman4
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:47amThat dude boppin’ around in video one was making me laugh. Pathetic. This will backfire. How many protesters were bused in? Sad.
Report Post »Deda1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:45amKnock his teeth out. he is a parasite sucking the system dry.
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:50amHow? One guy needed both hands to keep the camera from shaking and the other needed both hands on his walker.
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:44amI find it interesting that this tidbit is in the above piece – “collective bargaining privileges”.
What happened to “collective bargaining rights”? Hey wait a minute – as organizing itself is a a part of the right to freely assemble, to freely associate, how can it be a privilege?
Rights and privileges are the same thing, synonyms, in the Constitutional Context. That makes the usage here proper.
However, these rights, these privileges, are not being “stripped” as noted. The only thing that is happening is that the union won’t have any enforcement capability in the civil service arena. There exists a right to organize, for sure, but that does not mean that exercise of it means that taxpayers must pay whatever is demanded. And that is it has come to with union bosses these days. Unions, especially in the public domain, have usurped power that doesn’t belong to them.
All these folks can organize all they want to, that can continue. What is forthcoming is that the elected representation of the taxpayers is going to make an offer to the collective by posing a deal to for each position that taxpayers can handle and finance. The collective can accept it or reject it if that is what they choose and the individual can accept it or reject it if they choose. Those who reject it will simply have to seek employment elsewhere.
Welcome to the real world union members, where you are indeed responsible for the choices you make and where the playing field is level. The days of laundering money from taxpayers to Democrat campaign coffers through unionization is coming to a close. Maybe it is time to reign in your corrupt union leadership, huh?
Report Post »thebertmanlives
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:40amThat poor abused Tea Bag,If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. Word of advice…Don’t mess with a working man.
Report Post »I don’t approve of the hitler stache but she is right about the union takeover. Nazis pretended to be socialists just to gain power, They soon showed their true fascist colors, Just like repubs and their JOBS JOBS JOBS once elected they went straight to the culture war.
proliance
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:53amBy working man you mean union members only. Unions have become the modern, elite privileged class and they need to be taken down a notch.
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:54amWorking Man???? ROFL. Normally their are 10 Government employee’s that watch a private contractor actually do the work….. Government employees do not work
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:20amHey Bert. GET A LOAD OF THIS….
Report Post »“The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” uhhhh that means Government Workers!
A direct quote from ultimate union supporter Franklin D.Roosevelt… 1937
Whostolemypig
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:32amLiberal unions, where the men are men and the women are to.
Report Post »moriseiki2002
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:51am@ the_ancient
Not this one
Report Post »Grylls81
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:40amI think this is the response people are having to the tea party. Soon we will find out just how few tea partiers there really are.
Report Post »CaptGreg
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:09amWhat if you’re wrong.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:10amCorrection: This is the response ignorant people are having to the tea party.
Report Post »quance
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:16amNo. There are millions of us. We can’t just call in sick to go to the state house and throw a tantrum because we want you to pay for our health care and retirement. The legislature is doing what we elected them to do. Quit crying and go back to your cushy job.
Report Post »EyeofthePatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:32am@QUANCE
IF he HAD a job he probably could go back to it. Most likely he‘s living off you and I and fearing he’ll have to stop being lazy each and everyday.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:39am@Gryll
Thousands of us show up all on our own at events here in central Ohio. It’s too bad for you I suppose, but we’re tired of playing these childish games that you insist on playing.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:42amummm, you think we are few in number? you think we are a bunch of patseys? LOL, then you’d be thinking mighty wrong my friend. Your kind can protest, but if you become violent, all bets are off, just remember that much pal…
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:52amNot only are we the majority, we are the smart armed majority :)
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:55amBut be prepared for disappointment just in case there are a few more than you expected.
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:38amThese people make me sick. I have never had a pension or had anybody pay part of my health care but they think it is a god given right for me to pay them taxes to fund their way of life. I am ready at my door. Do not cross it. When i have been out of work i looked for another job and i never asked for money from the government. These unions need to be broken up. There is no more company store and all american workers can have a good job. They just want to make out like bandits and live as high on the hogg as they can. all the while telling you to shut up. Spoiled kids is all they are. They make me sick
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:34amAccording to Legal Database.com, the No Child Left Behind Act has fallen under much criticism since its passage, with particular focus on inadequate funding. In 2002 through 2004, Congress authorized between $26.4 billion and $32 billion to be spent on the No Child Left Behind initiative. The president’s 2004 budget proposal would underfund the act by $9 billion, leaving local communities to make up the difference. [9]
Report Post »http://www.halexandria.org/dward764.htm
NC
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:38amJonathon got the headline wrong.
The first video is an on-line video application for the next no-name talking head at MSNBC.
The new show will be called “#&^%)%$^*(%$#@HY”.
NC (can cuss like a sailor too)
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:34amthe problem is many state and Govt jobs are lower paying
Report Post »because the worker expects a good pension, so for
years they have gotten lower wages, now the govt wants
to cut the promised pension.
I almost doubled my pay after leaving a govt job I had for
14yrs.
Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:13amThe governor isn’t taking their pension away . He’s asking them to contibute 15% towards it. End of the effing world ain’t it?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:27amthat is a 15% percent pay cut for a job that was already
Report Post »under paid.
research the pay for school nurses compared to private
sector nurses.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:31amI feel that if you need to cut the budget then
Report Post »cut the service, Have the guts to lay people off
and that includes Cops.
we use to live with cheaper schools and less police
cancel No Child left behind and anything else that has me added
in the last 10 yrs.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:35amThe ability to negotiate pay is not being eliminated. And I don’t know where you worked, but teachers here are sitting pretty and are more or less spoiled rotten compared to the private sector. Ohio is losing jobs like a sieve, we can NOT afford these kinds of payouts to government any longer.
They don’t care of course, the socialists routinely accuse the private sector (that pays the taxes and that contributes heavily to charity) of being selfish, yet when push comes to shove the public sector can see no further than “me me me!”. Bunch of useless vermin. Privatize education and wipe out these useless government jobs, I say.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:41amThat may have been true years ago but no longer. Now not only do government workers make allot more then their counterparts in the private sector but they have benefits that are extravagant. They pay nothing towards their retirement or their health care. They are fat bloated hogs at the public slop trough constantly squealing for more when there is no more.
Report Post »The Democrat law makers who have left the state should be fired and arrested and thrown in jail if they ever step foot inside the state again. The teachers who are calling in sick should be fired. The teachers who are bringing their students with them should be fired. The best way to get a blood gorged tic off is to burn it off. Stop them now.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:18amRICK I don’t feel this is excessive for a worker with a 4yr degree
If you’re thinking about becoming a teacher in Virginia, you may be curious about the kind of Virginia teaching salary you can make. As the slogan goes, Virginia is for lovers—but as far as salary goes, Virginia is also for teachers, with the average teacher salary reaching $49,999. That’s over $3,000 higher than the average statewide salary.*
Salaries aren’t the only reward for becoming a Virginia teacher. The perks of the job are also attractive, making up for the hours spent grading homework assignments and focusing your students on the tasks at hand. Teachers in Virginia Beach, for instance, receive a generous package that includes health and dental plan options, a state retirement plan, sick leave, credit union membership and other benefits.**
That’s not the whole story, though, when it comes to your Virginia teaching salary. Factors such as how much experience or education you have can affect how much you make. In some public school districts like Virginia Beach, teachers with a master’s degree or doctorate earn an additional annual stipend.**
Virginia teacher salaries also vary depending on what grade level you teach. At the elementary school level, teachers earn an average of $58,842, while middle school teachers earn $59,532.*
Geographic location also has an influence on how much teachers earn, especially in a state like Virginia, which includes both rural communities and cosmopolitan, Washington, D.C.-area cities. Here’s a comparison of the Virginia teaching salary for secondary school teachers in five of the largest metropolitan areas in the state:**
* Arlington: $68,340
* Lynchburg: $44,020
* Richmond: $54,380
* Roanoke: $52,380
* Virginia Beach: $55,340
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please read my other post list CEO pay at GS
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:54amfair enough GHOST Ohio can’t afford the cost, what about the number of
inmates in ohio and the court cost of prosecuting Drug laws ?
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/63
(2004 – parents in prison) “Mothers in state prison (58%) were more likely than fathers (49%) to report having a family member who had also been incarcerated (table 11). Parents in state prison most commonly reported a brother (34%), followed by a father (19%). Among mothers in state prison, 13% reported a sister and 8% reported a spouse. Six percent of fathers reported having a sister who had also been incarcerated; 2%, a spouse.
“While growing up, 40% of parents in state prison reported living in a household that received public assistance, 14% reported living in a foster home, agency, or institution at some time during their youth, and 43% reported living with both parents most of the time (appendix table 11). Mothers (17%) held in state prison were more likely than fathers (14%) to report living in a foster home, agency, or institution at some time during their youth. Parents in federal prison reported lower percentages of growing up in a household that received public assistance (31%) or living in a foster home, agency, or institution (7%). These characteristics varied little by gender for parents held in federal prison.
“More than a third (34%) of parents in state prison reported that during their youth, their parents or guardians had abused alcohol or drugs. Mothers in state prison (43%) were more likely than fathers (33%) to have had this experience. Fewer parents (27%) in federal prison reported having a parent or a guardian who had abused alcohol or drugs.”
Report Post »Source:
Glaze, Lauren E. and Maruschak, Laura M., “Parents in Prison and Their Minor Children” (Washington, DC: USDOJ, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Jan. 2009), NCJ222984, p. 7.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/pptmc.pdf
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:59am@tower7femacamp
The War on Drugs is an unconstitutional farce and needs to be abolished. Same with most victimless crime “laws” and crusades.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:11amdo you think Governor Kasich agrees with us about these laws ?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:21am@tower7femacamp
“do you think Governor Kasich agrees with us about these laws ?”
I’ve dined and had drinks with the man, spoke to him at length several times, even recently (last talked with him in September). His kid used to go to the same gymnasium as my daughter, so we spent a lot of bench time talking when he wasn’t in office. What he’ll do “officially” I don’t know, but face to face he’s pretty damned close to a fire breathing libertarian. His one fault was his gun vote in the 1990′s, of which he’s repented since.
At this point in time he’s got the economy in his sights, and since Ohio is losing jobs at an amazing rate I don’t think things like victimless crime laws are even on the radar. What he’ll do if the economy turns around here though, well, don’t discount him because he has an “R” on his ticket, he was at tea party gatherings lashing out at the GOP as well as the Dems, and he’s no friend of RINOS.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:36amGood I am glad Ohio has a decent Governor and I hope we can get
Report Post »some freedom back in this country.
I also hope he exposes the high cost of incarceration of non violent criminals.
Because soon we will have Thought crimes if we continue on our current
path.
Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:33amPretty obvious why that guy needs a union to hold on to a job.
Report Post »LSX
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:47amUnions protect the slackers.
*
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:28amHis mother must be SO proud.
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:11pmIntimidation,thuggery, bet he was the class bully in school ! He does’nt have a brain for anything else !
Report Post »Marine Recon Dad
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:32amAmazing… I’ve seen shots of Socialistic propaganda being handed out, gleefully taken into the hands of union drones that have no mind of their own. How is it that these people do not understand that their unions and way of life is destoying the rest of ours? And they dare lecture us on greed? My goodness…..
When unions were first formed, there was an acutal need to protect the worker. Now, the unions provide harbour to some of the most unproductive, lazy and greedfull people out there. I was part of a union for 3 years, and only because I had to. Within the first month, I had 3 ‘thugs’ surround me and tell me that I was working too hard and making them look bad. I politely told them to ‘kiss my ……’ and returned to work. They seemed to be more concerned about their image and benefits than actually working for the pay they were receiving…..
….. this is the beginning of the revolution… be ready, people. Welcome it with open arms. It is time to clean house.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:28amI worked in a union shop for 17 years and it is exactly as you say. Lazyness, greed, and get away with what ever you could. I would work hard too and was also told on many occasions to settle down because I was making the rest of the lazy good for nothings look bad. I worked and worked hard for those people because it was the right thing to do. I was at peace with myself and wasn’t stealing money from people for standing around talking or sitting on my rump. If I’m getting paid, then I better be working hard to be worthy of that pay. Simple Biblical principles.
Report Post »Marine Recon Dad
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:24amJedi,
Report Post »I wholeheartedly agree. We should always do what is right and honorable, and therefore we don’t need a union to protect us. The idea of having a ‘protection umbrella’ covering our actions just leads to us not doing what is right.
martnee777
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:31amThis is democracy in action, as opposed to a constitutional republic. Mob rule, fear, intimidation and eventually violence. All lead by the mobster in chief.
Report Post »Just_Bubba
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:42amYou got it! The protest / counter-protesters is where the violence he needs to complete his plan will come from. It will be a simple stroke of the pen and we will be under marshall law for our own protection.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:37am@Bubba
I do not intend to sit silently if somebody passes “martial law”. Do you?
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:52am777 This seems to me to be the beginning of a manufactured revolution by liberals and their kind. The world will watch the, riot looking mobs, and will be led to believe we America is revolting. Instead of the people, the goverment, of the people are revolting against We The People that are not in unions or special interest groups or disagree with the negative derection the leaders are taking us. They are tired of waiting on the NORMAL GOD AND AMERICA loveing citizens to react to them destroying our country. They are ready for violance. They ready for what we have seen on tv the last year. How far will they go. FFP must be very happy. She is a wicked soul to want such an end for America the good thing in this , is they will not prevale.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:38am@Ghost
Report Post »I will not go quietly.
I will not go alone.
My liberties….
MOLON LABE!
Ironmaan
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:27amThe Entitled class is becoming enraged because they see their free ride ending. Hey “entitled” folk, we owe you nothing! I no longer want to subsidize your healthcare, your pensions or your lives. Support yourselves and I’ll do the same. Keep your hands OUT of my pocket.
Report Post »http://guerillatics.com
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:57amhere is the real entitled class
Report Post »http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12316309
and yet the media can manipulate us to turn on ourselves
to save pocket change to the Banksters.
and what about the 730 Billion defense budget that is NEVER
even audited ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRqeJcuK-A&feature=related
ozz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:23am@tower
Report Post »True the global elites are the enemy, but unions have entirely to much power. It should be illegal for unions to contribute to a campaign. They take my dues and give them to the candidate I vote against. How is that right?
They deduct dues from my pay check and the only way I can opt out is to quit my job.
Then they do things with MY MONEY that I am strongly opposed to.
How is that right?
They have too much power. Break em !
MetalPatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:10am“ and force members to contribute to their pensions and health care”.
Now that’s just WRONG! “F” these idiots.
I’m an old bastard (42) going to city college to retrain myself for new employment due to permanent back issues. I can tell you, my math classes have been a joke. The textbooks have excercises that are not represented in the text. The text over explains basic issues while the more complex are under explained. Even the instructor admits it’s about selling more revised books instead of just using a really good book. Basic math & algebra hasn’t changed THAT much in 50 years has it?
Test answers were worked out on the board before the tests were issued. One “teacher” gave points to students who brought cans & plastic for him to recycle. My favorite comment of his was, “Go ahead and report me. I’ll just retire with a million dollars in my pocket.”
An algebra teacher “covers” 3 complex sections a day because she missed class. Again, quiz answers were on the board because she didn’t have time to cover the sections properly. She’s a nice woman. I learned more from strict instuctors. Even the “kids” in the class have commented, “So this is why our education isn’t happening.”
California (of course).
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:26am“Ozz”
“Freedom of speech, right to assemble” has been interpreted to mean that corporations can contribute (court, smooze, con) politicians AND that unions can exist.
Should they? Probably not. Too much power? Absolutely. Creating less productive/competitive employees? Absolutely. Retirement pensions without the workers contribution? NO way!
My wife, daughter, & myself live in a 700 sq ft condo. Our retirement, after losing 40% from the “.com market collapse”, has been used up. Nobody promised us a great living or great retirement. Do we feel we deserve it? No. Are we upset that public employees get it? hell yes!
Bunch of cry babies.
BTW: Our local police work 16 hour shifts. We have 1 man for our “gang” division. (We DO have a growing gang population. They’re all Hispanic, but that’s probably just me being an uninformed racist. How’s the union helping our cops? Their “powers” have been so limited that they can’t effectively do anything against real criminals and are resigned to domestic disturbances & mental cases with their carts walking the sidewalks.
Man, I feel for these people who see the worst of mankind on a daily basis. I’m bitter, pissed, & depressed JUST reading about it. Keep them in your prayers.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:30amozz I agree with you about the forced political donations
Report Post »So pass laws to stop it, but 40% of the union workers are
Republicans and deserve the pension as promised,
the Governor can cut their pay and lay them off, but a promise
is a promise. tell the new hire they have to pay like when the Federal
Workers converted to FERS from the old retirement system
I was hired under the old for 1 yr but was forced into the 401k
based FERS, so I quit the govt after 14yrs. Because there was no pension to hold
me there.It would be very un fair to chg anyone already in the system
sanson
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 3:31pmMy sentiments exactly…These people should start to contribute to their pensions and healthcare and understand they are lucky to have jobs (even when they half heartly do them). If some of these people took a moment maybe they could see their own greed. I dont think its corporate greed putting our country as a whole into massive debt its all these orginazations wanting more money when we have none, and I don’t just mean the unions.. I mean people still on unemployment and welfare and receiving government grants (which is still welfare), These people talk of the “working man” but a working man would understand that when you have limited funds you dont go out and spend more money you go without.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:26amSilent Majority NO MORE
Let him know we support his decision
Governor John Kasich
Riffe Center, 30th Floor
77 South High Street
Columbus, Oh 43215-6117
Phone: (614) 466-3555
Govenor Walker Office
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EyeofthePatriot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:28amVery good call on your part.
Here is a link to Kasich’s “SHARE YOUR IDEAS” site. I‘m sure he’d appreciate some feedback through there too if you’re not able to give his office a call. I’m sending something as I type this.
http://governor.ohio.gov/ShareYourIdeas.aspx
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:30amEye, Already did both. send an email to all your friends.
Report Post »Sherryb50
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:33amThank you for the number to Gov. Kasich’s office. I just called. I support him and his decision. It’s time to
Report Post »make the hard choices. Too bad, the union doesn’t see it that way.
Grandpa
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:20amExcellent! I suggested he fire striking teachers before they can further influence children and call on mothers and grandmothers to substitute.
Report Post »WhatsUp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:22amContact form to send Gov. Kasich your words of support @ http://governor.ohio.gov/ShareYourIdeas.aspx
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Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:24amI do think this will spread and i hope they do not but if they do i think the turn outs will be bad.
Report Post »Be Prepared that is all i can say !!
Fletch
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:32am“Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool.”
–Clinton presidential aide Paul Begala, July 1998
Public Service doesnt mean you’re to be serviced by the public for life
President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.
This is why unions should again be outlawed for public employees.
When collective bargaining was brought into American schools in the 1960s, it was a revenue stream and power base for Big Labor. Suddenly, union bosses became more interested in building political muscle than educating children.
At that point the battle between unions and school boards became more focusing on salary, benefits, pensions and working conditions for adults, and less about students.
Kids are only pawns in the self-serving union game.
What is the purpose of teacher unions? To work for children? Establish new and better requirements? Push their members to better serve parents and children?
“Despite what some among us would like to believe, it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues each year because they believe that we are the unions that can most effectively represent them, the unions that can protect their rights and advance their interests as education employees”
…National Education Association’s just-retired General Counsel Bob Chanin. (The NEA is the County and State Association’s parent body). NEA General Counsel Bob Chanin Says Farewell:
VIDEO
As legendary New York teachers union leader Albert Shanker said, “When school children start paying union dues, that‘s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”
All government unions should be banned. The idea that government workers need protection from guess who?? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, is ridiculous. remember, teachers are government employees. Ban government unions.
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Report Post »Goobergregory
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:35amI see this kind of thing coming to Michigan soon too. If they cannot marginalize and ignore, they will beat down. The language is disgusting but not surprising. Paid Thugs…
Report Post »chazman
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:38amLet the revolution to maintain the constitution and our freedom begin!
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:46amLook at all those red shirts! The Communist Coup d’état continues.
Report Post »They see their long-awaited opportunity, and it’s gonna really ramp-up now.
Hang on, gang.
sissykatz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:54amCan you just imagine how upset the unions are at the thought of losing all those dues….. and the possibility of becoming irrelevent? I don’t know how much dues they pay but could the fact that they will no longer be paying dues off set some of the cost they are now going to pay? Does anyone know? I am just curious about how much in dues they pay.If this spreads from state to state think of all the millions of contracts they will be losing. I have a big smile on my face while I am typing this,,,,,
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:04amOK, the time has come! To the good people of America….Let’s roll!!!!
Report Post »bigdeg
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:09amBravo Fletch…truer words were never typed!!!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:13amThe continued division of the entire country. First it was democrats vs. the republicans, then the rich vs. the poor, the union worker vs. the non-union worker, now the public workers vs. the private sector. This strategy is dreamed up by those Marxists, socialists, communists, and progressives, in an attempt to take over and get us all to buy into this new world order crap. As long as we are fighting amongst our selves they are winning. Time to be strong and look at the whole picture.
taskmaster78
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:17amThat first video was that most mindless response of distorted bs I’ve heard up to date. It’s quite obvious the man that blew off the remaining brain cells in his 1 minute diatribe is most definitely a typical union thug. He could put his arm around an idea even if it could save his life. Not to say he understands we can create money out of thin air, though this administration has been trying since they’ve been in Washington. The word that best fits this is, let’s see, oh ya “selfish a$$e$!
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:21amThe sad thing is that the teachers lied when they called in sick. This is teaching the students that it is ok to lie therefore teaching bad morals. Then the teachers used their students as the union bosses are using them. If I was one of the parents of these students I would be outraged! Where are the parents!! It is just sad! But God is in control!!! God Bless the GOOD and rebuke the evil!!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:25amI’m in Ohio and just minutes from the State House. These low life vermin had better act kinder than they are in Wisconsin, we’re not a bastion of Leftism here (OSU campus excepted). I for one plan to show up and challenge these thugs if things start to get out of hand, and I‘m fairly certain that they’re going to bus in “opposition” in short order. Yesterday we had plenty of people out demonstrating FOR the union busting bill. Tread carefully socialists.
Our new Governor, Governor Kasich, is a fire breather and is a Tea party member who criticized/es both the GOP and the Dems. He’s certain capable of taking these idiots to task, and I hope he does.
Report Post »arx
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:25amI hope the WI governor has the ****** to follow through and fire all the absent teachers like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. If you grab the bull by the horns, you can’t compromise because it will only teach them they can jump up and down to get their way. Watch how fast they go back to work if he starts firing some.
Public sector unions are a disaster which cannot be remedied in any other way but busting them. When the government (many liberals and dems among them) start negotiating with taxpayer’s money, the result is what we have…unsustainable costs. First, they don’t care care about our money, because it isn’t theirs. Second, they use the money to buy votes and support from the unions. Unholy alliance, as Sean puts it… It must stop if we are to save ourselves from the financial abyss. What I don‘t undertand is how these union people can’t see that they are destroying their children’s futures….
Report Post »Oh, God!
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:27am@FLETCH-you forgot to add FDR in there. He had a lot to do with collective bargaining. Excellent post, BTW.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:29amThis is a prime example of why an entitlement rich society, relying on the government and the money of others, does not work. It’s funny how the first thing these progressives always say is tax the rich more and more cause I was too lazy to try and make it on my own. Liberalism is truly a mental disease.
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:31am@ Sissy. I heard that the dues were at 1100 per year. Sorry, no link.
Report Post »SpotoGo_Denny
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:35am@STUCK_IN_CA, I think the red shirts were actually the Tea Party members there in support of the bill. Poor color choice, if you ask me. I’m glad to see the Tea Party represented there, though. Pretty brave to march into the middle of that hostile crowd!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:40amThat guy is destined for his own show on MSNBC…….also, I just saw one person of “color” in that whole audience…….seemed like there were an awful lot of “angry, white people shouting other people down”…..if I didn’t know better, the “news” organizations would be comparing them to the Tea Party people……but only the Tea Party is evil, I guess…….yeah……nothing to report here…..just move along……
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:44amstuck_n_ca
Report Post »MSNBC said those wearing red shirts were“Republican”Union members not communist. As if someone is swallowing that tripe. The far left is now desperately trying to hide communist ties to the public unions. The real question is what does that say about a party that so badly wants to be in control that they would side with the eenmeies of the Constitution and capitalism aka FREE market.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:46amwhy beat up the teaches for a small pension while Neocons worship Wall St ?
Goldman is expected to be the biggest winner in the race for revenues that, in 2006, reached £186bn across the entire industry. While this figure is expected to fall to £160bn in 2009, it will be split among a smaller number of firms.
Barclays Capital, Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank are among the European firms expected to register bumper profits, along with US banks JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley following the near collapse and government rescue of major trading houses including Citigroup, Merrill Lynch, UBS and Royal Bank of Scotland.
In April, Goldman said it would set aside half of its £1.2bn first-quarter profit to reward staff, much of it in bonuses. It is believed to have paid 973 bankers $1m or more last year, while this year‘s payouts are on track to be the highest for most of the bank’s 28,000 staff, including about 5,400 in London.
Critics of the bonus culture in the City said the dominance of a few risk-taking investment banks is undermining the efforts of regulators to stabilise the financial system.
Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat treasury spokesman, said: “The investment banks more than any other institutions created the culture of excessive leverage, excessive risk and excessive bonuses that led to the downfall of the financial system. Now they are cashing in and the same bonus culture has returned. The result must be that we are being pushed to the edge of another crash.”
Goldman Sachs said it reviewed its bonus scheme last year and switched from a system of guaranteed rewards that were paid over three years to variable payments that tied staff to the firm. It told employees last year that profit-related bonuses would be delayed by 12 months.
Until the release of its first quarter profits in April, it seemed inconceivable that a firm owing the US government $10bn would be looking to break all-time records in 2009.
David Williams, an investment banking analyst at Fox Pitt Kelton, said: “This year is shaping up to be the best year ever for investment banks, or at least those that have emerged relatively unscathed from the credit crisis.
“These banks are intermediaries in the bond markets where governments and companies are raising billions of pounds of new money. There is also a lack of competition that means they can charge huge sums for doing business.”
Last week, the firm predicted that President Barack Obama’s government could issue $3.25tn of debt before September, almost four times last year’s sum. Goldman, a prime broker of US government bonds, is expected to make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits from selling and dealing in the bonds.
Report Post »http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/15/news/companies/goldman_taxpayer_gains.fortune/
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:51amremember this crowd is a very small and vocal bunch of idiots
not the teacher you meet at your school for teacher parent night.
Do you really want to renegotiate a promised benefit to these hard working
teachers ?
s Wall Street firms typically do, Goldman set almost half that sum aside to compensate its workers. Through the first nine months of 2009, the firm socked away $16.7 billion, enough to pay the average Goldmanite $526,814.
The bonus pool is on pace to hit $21 billion for 2009, which would match the record bonus payout of 2007.
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:56amI hope everyone is paying attention to whats going on in our capitol concerning Ohio Senate Bill 5. Clearly, the unions in this country have far to much power and they are bleeding the system dry but, the system has nothing left to give. What concerns me is the the Unions are highly organized and their movement stands in direct polar opposition to what us in the Tea Party are fighting so hard to achieve. If we blink, if we slow down the momentum that we all worked so hard to achieve, could be lost. If we falter I fear the Republic is lost. There is little doubt that we are entering a time when the very principles that have guided our nation to prosperity are being forgotten and challenged, and the new battle is here. Its a battle we must win. Do not kid yourself, we are facing true believing Socialist and Marxist, though most of them will not admit to those titles, but what is the fruit off their labor? Socialism. They hijacked the Democrat party and many in the GOP have fallen under their circle of persuasion as well. We have to challenge them on every level, in every city, in every state, and on every issue.
Its unbelievable to me that within my life time I saw the end of the Cold War, just to realize the socialist movement is very much alive and thriving today in this country. I am proud to be apart of the Tea Party movement, but we have to do a better job informing our fellow citizens that the disease that’s keeping the poor poor, and education system in shambles, the economy in peril, the cost of living high, and the jobless without hope, is the progressive movement. There is a serious lack of understanding of what conservatism is because it is no taught to our children, and its has not been represented well in many years. Its bastardized in the school system and its vilified within the university system, and the truth is that its Conservatism that is best for the individual and their rights and to liberate our nation for the economic depression its facing.
My point in writing this, are you still fired up? The fight has just started, and we are not fighting to keep power, we are fighting to get it back. Teach poeple that the American Republic is the greatest system this world has ever know for those for those that have only been the pawns of those of title and power. The American Republic is being lost, we cannot let this happen.
And if I hear someone call us a Democracy one more time!!!!
Report Post »enduro
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:02amyes i love the site of greedy union pigs. It’s time everyone pays there fair share. Your out numbered now greedy union pigs…..
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:17am@gobluebuckeye
Are you close enough to the State House to show up at the counter protest against the union thugs? I’m thinking about taking half a day and going myself, if you are let me know and we can hook up and give’em hell. :)
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:26amThis WILL spread.
Public pensions and salaries are a big issue in Ohio.
Police already receive 19.6% public contributions to their pensions. The remainder is set aside out of their salaries, which we also pay.
The police are asking for an increase of public contributions to their pensions from 19.6%, to 25%, when EVERYBODY KNOWS Ohioans are BROKE.
Richard Cordray, Ohio Attorney Generaql, has advised public workers and Ohio Public Pension system NOT to reveal to our local newpaper the details of their pensions. They claim it is confidential.
What they don’t understand is that it is a PUBLIC pension system, keyword PUBLIC.
The PUBLIC has a right to know how much money is going ito its workers PENSIONS.
This isn’t a private 401k.
Even people’s 401k contributions are KNOWN by their employers, they have to know, or else they wouldn’t know what to withhold from their checkso put into their 401ks.
But the Public Pensioners somehow think that they’re EXEMPT from public scrutiny when we have BILLION dollar shortfalls.
Now we have Police attempting to increase revenue from the public by writing an exhorbitant amount of traffic tickets, but CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!
I NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT MY WEAPON!
The streets are abhorrent.
The police are incompetent, entitled, armed thugs, preying on the public for revenue.
They’ll allow the streets to deteriorate in order to vindicate their miserable existence.
They don‘t want to join the rest of Americans who’re losing their jobs.
They don’t want to struggle like we struggle.
They want to live off of us.
And as long as corrupt politicians keep on giving these entitled public workers OUR MONEY, they’ll keep cracking OUR HEADS (police), and rioting (idiot teachers and other unions) when we try to stop them.
One public workers takes 40 private workers to pay their pension and salary.
THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE.
SHRINK THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
If we have to, (which we do, we’re flat a$$ broke) ABOLISH THE POLICE AND SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
RETURN THE FULL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS WITH NO RESTRICTIONS OUTSIDE THE 2nd AMENDMENT.
Report Post »QuantumVerp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:28amThis is almost too simple for my quantum abilities. No matter how complicatedly put the unions address these issues, simply put, the teachers have not fulfilled their contracts to teach our children. International test comparisons prove that.
We did not ‘contract for failure’ with teachers’ unions. Period. You’re fired.
After this coming great whatever, I expect mother’s will stay home and home-school. $150 per year for proven results. We don’t need teachers, we need learners. I always called the combining of large masses of young people a party, not a school. It doesn’t work.
ASIDE: Concerning the coronal mass ejection experiments being carried out to ascertain the potential for a targeted decommission of selected continental electrical grid system… do NOT wear your rabbit ear antennas!
Thank you, back to normal abnormal programming…
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:29amFire all the teachers that are striking illegally!!!!!! Enough is enough!!!
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:30amDon’t worry Ghost of Jefferson, if these idiots get out of hand, I know some people who know some people.
We’ll be there too.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:31amplans for the same thing in ct, ny, penn nj etc…The soft unions in the north east are planning days of rage in better weather though.
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:32am@GhostofJefferson
I work only six miles away from downtown right off of Wilson Rd, and you better believe I would love to go down there and let my voice be heard in support of our Governor. Problem is I work till 5 and it will be quite a challenge to get out of work to be a present in a fight I need to be far more active in. See unlike Union workers, I just cant leave work and be guaranteed my job the next day. I have to work my tail off.
Report Post »If I can find a way get out of work, you are darn right will be down there and would love to meet up with you and place a verbal smack down on our own opposition. If feel the call and this is the time to be active not passive.
Sinista Mace
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:36amI hope the OHIO TEACHERS recognize that the POLICE FORCES are driving better cars than they themselves have.
They‘re in 2010 model Dodge Chargers and putting up expensive traffic cameras and crap while we’re going BROKE and searching for jobs….
…And the streets are atrocious……crime is rampant….
…but there they are…sitting under the dang on billboard writing tickets for people doing 37 in a 35, or sitting there waiting for you to make a left turn somewhere you’re not supposed to, or pulling you over for “loud music”, or hovering around the schools when parents are dropping off and picking up students so they can try to get you a nice ticket in before you go to work and on your way home from work…
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:37amthe lady is right I did take over the Trade unions
After he became Chancellor in January 1933, Hitler transformed his democratic position into dictatorial power. Calling an election – and taking advantage of the Reichstag fire – he got the Reichstag to pass the Enabling Act. Then, using the power this gave him to make his own laws, he set up the Gestapo, banned Trade Unions and opposition parties and (on the Night of the Long Knives, July 1934) removed even the opposition within the Nazi Party.
When Hindenburg died, Hitler declared himself Fuhrer.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:43amSINSTA glad to see you on here,
Report Post »I say lay off the cops and teachers but don’t
chg the pensions that were promised, they should have
been funded, but I am sure previous politicians spent it elsewhere
just like our SSI that we pay and employer matched, but
they used the money for other things, maybe that’s how
we can afford a 730 billion dollar defense budget.
and Helicopters to find a few pot plants….
Sinista Mace
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:43amQuantumverp
A properly constructed Faraday cage will absorb any electrical problems of coronal mass ejection.
Radiation, however, that’s a different story.
The elecrical industry has MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY to prepare for the possible effects of a coronal mass ejection. they have allowed the infrastructure of their money-making apparatus to deteriorate horribly, along with natural gas producers, and it is always just one little incident from everybody’s power being shut off, or somebody‘s house exploding because the gas companies won’t reinvest their profits to repair and replace the old lead gas lines which are corroding and exploding.
All they have to do is build enough sinks to ground so that the earth can absorb any electromagnetic induction current. They won’t do that, it costs too much for their greedy a$$.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:46am@Sinista Mace
“Don’t worry Ghost of Jefferson, if these idiots get out of hand, I know some people who know some people.
We’ll be there too.”
Right on. Look for the tall muscular guy in the white old style cowboy hat, that’s me, I answer to “Michael”. Glad to know you’re in Ohio, I’ve always dug your anacap posts. Slainte. :)
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:53am@gobluebuckeye
I live on the Delaware county side of Polaris, and work in Westerville. Will know if I can take off here shortly, if so, I’ll be one of probably one person there in an old style white cowboy hat and am tall, answer to ‘Michael’. Give me a shout if you see me, it all depends at this point on how things are going at the State House. If union thugs are being carted in and are causing trouble, I’ll be there as a counter to them.
Cheers.
Report Post »1911a1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:53amSomebody want to remind me again why we on the right and in the tea party are being so nice to all these left wing commie union ***********? sooner or later folks , we are going to have to cure the cancer ! they will start a war if they can’t extort money out of everybody to support their addiction !
Report Post »1911a1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:56amon further thought , are these the people teaching your kids in school ? OMG ! what are your children learning ? how to think like these people ? geeez get your kids out of the public school system !
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:02amI am a teamster union member (not by choice). Unions should not be allowed to take the dues they steal from me and contribute them or contribute any support to a political campaign
.
YES UNIONS ARE A HUGE PROBLEM.
They are too powerful.
Government regulations steal our liberty,
and taxes steal our economic freedom.
Slash social security, slash medicare, slash pensions, slash benefits, slash the military industrial complex, slash the size of government, and END THE OBNOXIOUS FEDERAL INCOME TAX!
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:05am@ GhostofJefferson
I too am testing the waters of an early departure from work, but if its still going on after 5 yeah I will be there. I live close to the corner of 161 & Cleveland and if I go. I am 6′6 with red hair and a beard. I will look for a guy in a cowboy hat.
Report Post »I have been to my fair share of Tea Parties, but that was being surrounded by like minded people. I believe its time to look the Socialist in the eyes and tell them, enough is enough.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:06amINCARCERATION AND RELEASE TRENDS IN OHIO
Ohio’s rate of prison population growth had mirrored the
national level for almost two decades, until 1998, when
Ohio’s state prison population peaked and started a threeyear
decline. Between 1982 and 1998, Ohio’s prison population
nearly tripled in size from 17,147 to 48,171. After
three years of decreases (1998–2000), the Ohio prison
population grew by less than 1 percent from 2001 to 2004
to reach 44,082. By 2004, Ohio had the 7th largest prison
population in the United States and the 25th highest incarceration
rate, with 391 prisoners per 100,000 residents.
The increases in the Ohio prison population are due to more
admissions and longer lengths of stay. Increased admissions,
particularly from 1987 to 1992, were the result of a
dramatic rise in new commitments for drug offenses, as
well as increases in serious violent crime, and thus in new
commitments for violent offenders.
Whatever the solutions, they won’t be easy or inexpensive, Ohio prison officials say…. Sentencing laws could be revamped. Sixty percent of the state’s convicts are held for a year or less, most on low-level felonies, according to prison officials. Fewer prisoners mean less tax money spent. It costs about $70 a day to house an inmate. At 50,000, that’s $3.5 million a day. If the population climbs, as expected, to 70,000, that daily cost climbs to $4.9 million.
Report Post »$4.9 m times 365 =1.788 Billion a yr. 50% are drug crimes.
that doesn’t account for the welfare their dependents get because they are
not able to provide for their family
WhatsUp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:09amSomeone mentioned about all the “red shirts”–originally, the folks that showed up in “red” shirts were those who are supporting the OH legislation; the union supporters showed up in yellow–a short while later, someone was seen walking through the “yellow” crowd passing out “red” shirts for them to put on to blend in!
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:10ammy gut feeling is that violence is coming. soon. i hope not, but the body posture and anger seems to be 1 step from actual physical violence.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:17amThe tax payers out number the tax takers. The Unions will be outlawed so lets hope they keep it up and even become more violent. The more violent they become towards the tax payers the more they screw themselves. They are helping people to so what parasites they are with their violence. People are seeing this and saying do I really want these scum teaching my kids? They are going to lose big time and they are exposing themselves.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:17am@gobluebuckeye
“I too am testing the waters of an early departure from work, but if its still going on after 5 yeah I will be there. ”
Right on. I can get the afternoon free. Unlike union thugs I have to go on my own dime and time of course, but hey, that’s fine by me, keeps my conscious clear.
“I live close to the corner of 161 & Cleveland and if I go.”
Very interesting! I work off Schrock and Cleveland (technically Westerville).
” I am 6′6 with red hair and a beard. I will look for a guy in a cowboy hat.”
Good lord, I guess I should remove “tall” from my description, I‘m only 6’3″, lol.
“I have been to my fair share of Tea Parties, but that was being surrounded by like minded people.”
Odd isn’t it? I suspect we‘ve seen each other in passing several times if you’ve went to the State House for those particular events.
” I believe its time to look the Socialist in the eyes and tell them, enough is enough.”
I could not agree more. I‘m listening to 610 and it’s interesting how the news is still focusing on Wisconsin, with Ohio getting just a smattering of air time. Bob Connor had some union thug on this morning who sounded exactly like a mobster and didn’t really help the union cause, so I was happy with that, and I suspect Bob did that on purpose, lol.
If things heat up I hope to see you there. Be sure to wear steel toe high leather boots, union thugs like to place razor blades on the bottom of their own shoes where they’re unseen and they “calf” folks or cut through our shoes and toes with a stomp under the radar where cops cannot see them do it. Seriously. They’re probably going to be armed, even if covertly, plan accordingly.
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:29am@OZZ
I bet you are popular in your Union. ehhehe
very well put!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am at a loss for words. I just dont get why people cannot connect the dots. Government does not produce anything, they do not create wealth. All government can do is take wealth from those that produce it, and they vilify those that produce the wealth while they are taking their money at same time. When government becomes to big and attempts to do to much, and nothing really well mind you, eventually you cripple those that support and provide income for the government, They produce less, they make less, and networks for people that make a living working for and with that producer suffers.
these people think they have the right to a certain standard of living. well if my job cannot provide certain things such as health insurance, I dont wine about it, I get my own plan, or I find another job. Its called the pursuit of happiness not the guarantee of it. their jobs are dependent on the Government, and the Government is depending on us. Well when we dont have anything to give, why should they expect the same entitlements. they are a bunch of spoiled Socialist brats that need a spanking.
Also, Government workers are civil servants, someone explain to me why our “civil servants” make more on average then those that work in the private sector??? This should never happen, even during a time of plenty, which this is not, and they dare ask for more AND MORE. ALSO TEACHERS, why is it that every year since the department of education was founded that our educational standards and production and fallen every year since then to the rest of the world??? explain that? then explain why you should get more and not be fired???? explain why you can be fired even if you suck at life? Explain why you can retire at 55 with almost 75% of the pay you got while you were working, and us the real workers have to work till we cant work anymore, to pay for your existence while you are not working?? I am pissed off!!! hell you losers dont even work a full year.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:42amI surely hope that guy in the first video isn’t teaching children!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:14am@ghost and goblue
go get ‘em guys!
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:01pmSHT: This is indeed planned. Planned by the leaders of our country. This is a manufactured revolution carried out be too many people in our government that were put there to protect not destroy America. They alone have the sources and the power to do so. They are using every nut and scumbag they can muster to show the world America is weak and no better than they are. They can say what they want and show all the orchastrated events they are pushing in America but they will not prevale. This is the USA and things work a little bit different than abroad. They will be squashed or fall apart from within at there own hands. The people will not allow them to win.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:10pmHmm thats not very civil.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:14pmDo you want to see a solution to all this tribulation on our earth? Isaiah 9:6-7, John 3:16
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:15pmThis is nothing but community organizing encouraged by the chief community organizer. This is their time. They‘ve been waiting decades for this moment and they’re showing their cards. On one hand, it‘s ugly because it’s dividing America. But on the other, it’s separating the wheat from the chaff. Just because you have American citizenship doesn‘t mean you’re an American at heart. These people are nothing but communist Marxists. They consider themselves the elites who deserve a certain lifestyle while the proletariat foots the bill and feels the pain of the recession. The line is being drawn by this scum and it’s time to accommodate them into oblivion.
Report Post »ascoolone
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:19pmHere we go people hope you are prepared.
Report Post »gman46
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:25pmthe unrest is still just a few hundred people who are protesting.Mostly union people, and since we know what they are all about. The socialist will try but it won’t get very far.
Report Post »shilde58
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:21pmit will most definitely spread, that is what Obama and his thugs are wanting. These morons don’t know they are being played as fools to create unrest here…Van Jones, Piven and the rest of the goones have been telling their people to uprise. I don’t believe this will work and all union members should be fired if they do not show up for work! Bring it on Van Jones, Piven, Obama, union bosses, the American people are tired of the s@@% and what you are doing to this country! I for one will not sit by and let my country go down, I will stand up and fight!!!!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:34pmIt’s obvious to anyone with an IQ over 60 that the Democrats have been voted down by the majority and they are now going violent. I say, great let’s build more prisons and start throwing anyone of these idiots that so much as jaywalks in jail. It’s time for the rule of law. These people need to be held accountable!
Report Post »Kurty C Wipe
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:46pmAt least this rally had actual tax payers attending, unlike Wisconsin
Report Post »avenger
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:11pmguy gold,guns and lots of ammo…
Report Post »random357
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:56pmMakes me ashamed to admit I live in ohio.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:56am@FLETCH
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Dr Rob
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:34amI am fed-up with paying everyone else’s bills. Get a f%^&ing job and do it yourself. They want more they can come and get it in person. I’d love to see that!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 12:33pmI am part of a very large union in the U.S. and I am appalled by the behavior of these members! I have seen both sides and understand both, but this is the stuff that makes me want to leave and take my hard work out of the union!
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 12:55pmCemoto78:
Absolutely correct!
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:59pmIf the unions want a fight, then bring it on, you corrupt socialist pigs!! They only represent a measly 10% of America’s workforce. They’ll be fighting against a far greater army of non-union workers and pissed off unemployed Americans.
Report Post »HEARDENOUGHCRAP
Posted on February 20, 2011 at 12:11amThis is NOT just public employee unions that are overloading budgets. Why do you think GM was in such trouble? Because of ever increasing pensions, and wages. This was ALL done by UAW. When unions were first introduced, there were no child labor laws. Indentured servants were lowly paid slaves. In the South DEMOCRATS were still trying to bring back slavery! Unions were needed to bring companies and workers in line with a fair wage for a fair day’s work. Now, it is a completely different story. Unions are just more PAID (GOVERNMENT) organizations with THEIR hands in OUR pockets.
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