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Update: Attackers Charged With Hate Crimes in Brutal McD’s Beating

It’s a story that sparked a lot of outrage on this site. When a transgender woman was brutally beaten by two patrons at a Baltimore McDonald’s, many readers responded with anger and disbelief. And many wondered if the women would be charged with a hate crime. Now we know the answer: yes.

Here’s the original, disturbing, and graphic video:

The Associated Press reports on the hate crime charges below. Interesting to note is that some transgender activists aren’t screaming for the charges, but are rather cautious:

Teonna Brown, 18, was indicted Monday on assault and hate crime charges in the attack on Chrissy Lee Polis at the restaurant last month. She is also charged with assaulting a customer and a McDonald’s employee who tried to intervene. A 14-year-old girl is facing the same charges in juvenile court. The Associated Press typically does not identify juveniles charged with crimes.

Update: Attackers Charged With Hate Crimes in Brutal McDs Beating

Polis

Both teenagers are being held, prosecutors said no one else would be charged.

Brown was defending herself and maintains her innocence, according to attorney Timothy P. Knepp. He declined to go into further detail.

“She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,” Knepp said.

A videotape of the April 18 beating showed a woman being attacked repeatedly while an employee and customer try to stop them, and the woman apparently having a seizure.

Polis, 22, could not be reached for comment Monday, but she told The Baltimore Sun after the video of the attack went viral that she was the victim of a hate crime and had been afraid to go outside ever since the attack.

“They said, `That’s a dude, that‘s a dude and she’s in the female bathroom,’” Polis told the newspaper.

Polis said she was confronted by a girl who spat in her face and accused Polis of talking to “my man.” Polis said another girl then also spat on her face, and that they then beat and kicked her, pulled her by the hair and tore off her earrings.

“We hope that Chrissy gets justice and that these young ladies get justice as well. Everyone is hurting in this situation,” said Sandy Rawls of Trans-United. But anger management and counseling might be needed more than just jail time, Rawls said.

People who watched the video may feel that the attack was clearly a hate crime, but it is important for the evidence to be there for the charges, said National Center for Transgender Equality board member Dana Beyer, who has been working with Polis since incident.

“If there is no hate crime enhancement, the public can get very upset. Our position is that it doesn’t benefit anyone to have the law applied indiscriminately,” Beyer said. “It cheapens it. It’s always a difficult call.”

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:56am

    Why a hate crime? It seemed to me it was assault and battery by confusion, It was the girls bathroom. How does anyone know what other people think?

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    • let us prey
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:03am

      Confusion or not it is a barbaric act by what the media calls “ a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,”
      It is more of the same by a generation who is completely lost.
      Pitiful, and accepted in todays culture.

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  • The Realist
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:55am

    I’ll believe it when I see it-the charges sticking that is. First of all yes-there should be no term “hate crime” as has been said it is “thought police,” and a crime is a crime-PERIOD.

    Now since we do have these new “hate crime laws” on the books-if that’s what it takes to finally be able to PROSECUTE BLACKS again in this country-especially for attacks against WHITES (there have been at least 20 since January this year, I’ve been keeping a list of all the links/videos) then great. But again, I’ll believe it when I see it. I still say they get a slap on the wrist, “hate crime” or not

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:55am

    Somehow this has to be McDonald’s fault. That’s were the pot of gold is waiting. Come on, lawyers! You can make that logic argument! I have faith in you shameless greed.
    Oh, and that person is not a woman. Even Beck was playing this game of semantics. HE (i.e., the target of the beating) didn’t deserve any aggression once he was on the ground, but who‘s to say he wasn’t forcing a confrontation? Isn’t it convenient that members of these protected classes can never, EVER be a jerk… ’cause they are perpetually the “sob!” victim? So much for equal protection under the law.
    The neologism “hate crime” is a ham-fisted tool for bassackwards social engineering. It encourages people to define themselves by their skin tone or choice of sexual activity. So much for progress… so much for a society where you’re not defined by race. Nice work, progressive geniuses! One step forward… and then run like hell back.
    Hmm, who might profit from “hate crime” legistlation? Any lawyer wanna chime in?

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:10am

      “She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,”
      No, she is the damned ****** animal that the video made her out to be. No one deserves that kind of aggression upon them unless they are a threat to life and liberty. This trans-whatever was simply obnoxious. No excuse for aggression though. Call it-her-him names if you want, but hands off.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:32am

      Ladys these days have a ******* and no viginas?…….They dont make like that in Canada, America really is exceptional

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:34am

      Umm… I think we’re in agreement. You don’t beat/kick/stomp anyone once they’re down. The law on self-defense is clear: You can’t use deadly force in response to anything other than deadly force. When your attacker is down, you’re done. You quit and should arguably put some distance between you.
      No one should be beat for their skin tone or for where they wanna play hide the salami with a consenting adult. HOWEVER, you don’t get to strut around and make a scene in public and force confrontations. I don’t know that this is what happened, but it may well have sparked the confrontation. I suspect bad behavior from both sides ignited this debacle.

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  • MightyBee27
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:54am

    ok so even if “it” is a dude. double standard? “it” was not fighting back. the guy taping lost his job at micky dees. another unemployent ck plz! those two disgusting excuse for women will get a slap on ham.

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  • Realman30
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:50am

    This non- lady escalated the situation by going into the women restroom. Therefore, is this case, I‘ll give the two ’real girls’ a PASS!

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    • stoptheliesbho
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:59am

      @RealMan30 – I assume you’re joking. If you’re not, you’re an idiot. Crime should never be given a free “pass” … moron.

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    • Realman30
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:45pm

      No! I’m not kidding. The non female reaped what HE sowed.

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:58pm

      People like you are just disgusting.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:22pm

      @REALMAN30

      The transwoman who is the victim in this case is twice the man you‘ll ever be and twice the woman you’ll ever be with.

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  • Dougral
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:45am

    I don’t like the idea of hate crimes. Its punishing someone for what they were allegedly thinking rather than for just their actions. Its a leftist concept. This was a serious assault. I’m sure that without the hate crime label it would still be a felony. Prosecute them on that rather than on their hate.

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  • lynnissmart
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:44am

    Guys, everyone is human, whether you agree with their lifestyle or not…..Beating the pulp out of someone is a crime!!!!

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  • Rashomon
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:40am

    are zombies eating brains a hate crime? inquiring minds.

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  • Warphead
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:37am

    People like these attackers are literally on the edge of being savage animals. You think they can be barbaric and savage now, wait until TSHTF and their hungry.

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  • joey g
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:36am

    savages…

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:28am

      Just another member of the dirt race……Yes I said it…..when there are more of them that are in jail than graduate with a four year degree or only 1 in 4 have a father present in thier life that makes them dirty.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:35am

    I don’t believe in “hate crime” sentence intensifiers in any case. This one is no different.

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  • hempstead1944
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:31am

    How is that hope and change thing doing for you?

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  • 1911VALOR
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:27am

    Eric Holder will make this go away…after all, he has to take care of his people.

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  • gunslingerpatriot
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:25am

    Hate crime enhancements go against the equal protection clause of our Constititution and they show that all people are equal-just that some victims “more equal” than others.

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  • vtech61
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:25am

    This is good news.
    You go girl, ahem guy, ahem whatever. :-)

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  • On The Bayou
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:21am

    Blacks being charge with hate crimes, that`s impossible. Blacks are victims of hate crimes, they are not haters and they are surley not racist.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:20am

    I think this is the first time I have ever heard of someone who is black being charged with a hate crime. Just saying.

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    • smak
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:55am

      @ Rickfromillinois
      I think this is the first time I have ever heard of someone who is black being charged with a hate crime. Just saying.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      You hear what you want to hear.
      Google:
      blacks charged with hate crime

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  • ares338
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:19am

    Bush did it!!!!

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  • Ebbertron
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:19am

    so…the spokesman (woman…?) of Trans-united says the attackers need counseling……?

    Second (and I’m just putting this out there) this transgendered young man has an identical twin brother….if this sort of thing was genetic, wouldn’t his brother, who shares the exact same genetic make-up, be transgendered too? what is the excuse here?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:20pm

      Are you an evolutionary biologist? A clinical psychologist, maybe?

      Even identical twins with genetic markers for genetic diseases like Huntingtons and ALS and… baldness, I dunno, don’t always manifest the disease at the same time or in the same way. This is known medical fact.

      Nature vs. Nurture is a lie. It’s not either or. It’s both in varying degrees for any medical or psychological question.

      There are identical twins where one is gay and other other straight. There are families where multiple non-multiple-birth children are trans.

      And on top of it all, this whole post was predicated on an utterly irrelevant and fantastical hypothetical.

      Come back to the table when you’re psychologicly ready to deal with the facts of this incident.

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    • Ebbertron
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:54am

      I dont deny that its both nature vs nurture in varying degrees. There was a study done, and if I can find it I’ll post a link (although I’m sure due to its unpopularity its been suppressed) that found that something like 90% of homosexuals who responded could recall some sort of sexual abuse or premature sexual contact in their childhood years.

      Also, several studies have shown that abuse or trauma can physically alter the victim’s brain chemistry, creating problems for them emotionally and psychologically, especially at the onset of puberty.

      While I dont believe anyone is born gay, I do believe they cant help feeling the way they do, but those feelings are born out of trauma rather than some argument that leans towards re-defining evolution or “nature” as we know it.

      Not looking to “bash” here, but in the name of being PC, these things dont get discussed and that doesnt fly with me anymore. i’m not hostile, I love my gay friends (not token friends) I just simply do not agree that it is natural, normal or healthy.

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  • SLR Cameras
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:18am

    What about the guys recording the whole thing without trying to help. They should be charged with something!

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:40am

      Now that’s just stupid. First there is to much government telling you what to do or not to do. Then you want that same government to make it a crime if you don’t risk your own safety to break up a fight. Try to make up what little mind you have left.

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:57pm

      I can understand both sides of this argument. In the end the only thing the videotapers are guilty of is being disgusting human beings. But they are not criminals.

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  • let us prey
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:17am

    Q: who said whites have a lot more suffering to endure before they have a right to expect justice from the “Justice Department.”
    A: ??????????????
    Will he geat a chance at this case too?

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  • FlyoverConservative
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:15am

    Clearly, this was a crime of love.

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  • bew0576
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:14am

    Can you imagine how the LIBERAL MEDIA would jump all over this if the victim had been black and the perps white? Obama probably would have even had a conference – were is the outrage for this poor person?

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:54pm

      You will never see it. Sadly even the so-called Christians in here are to insecure in their own sexuality to have an adult conversation. This poor girl was beaten by animals and all these fools can do is blab about her being “transgender”. There’s simply no hope for us when even the more educated among us act like ignorant children when dealing with matters like these.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:11am

    At least we now know the two are being charged, and with a hate crime at that as well. There was a lot of speculation nothing would be done to them at the time thanks to the admin policies in so many interfering ways of the laws of the land.

    Let justice be done.

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  • bew0576
    Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:11am

    Such anger for teenagers, I’m glad they are being charged with a hate crime. Though I don’t agree with the transgender way of life, everyone deserves respect. He/She wasn’t bothering anyone and is now afraid to walk out of the house – this shouldn’t happen in America.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:20am

      ….
      Baltimore.
      Another democrat paradise.

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    • Creestof
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:22am

      I hope they get a minimum of 20 years. I could care less about the “hate crime” part of it…but they showed they are barely human and more deserving of being called animals. I have no doubt, that if they are not jailed for a long time, we will be hearing from them in the future…such as killing their own kids, or some other inhuman crime.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:26am

      I hate the term hate crimes. How is someone who is straight being beaten just a crime and someone who is gay/bi/transgendered a hate crime. Were they both not beaten? Why does one require more punishment than the other. Please, America, quit segregating the people in the country for ANY reason.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:28am

      Has anyone seen “White Chicks?” That is an very good resemblance to the Wayan brother dressed as a white girl.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:30am

      “When a transgender woman was brutally beaten by two patrons at a Baltimore McDonald’s …”

      That should read “man who made himself look more like a woman”.

      He’s a dude, plain and simple.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:31am

      Also, there is no such thing as a “hate crime”. The act is the crime – “Thought Police” are unConstitutional.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:35am

      There is a pecking order on the the ,DEMOCRAT Importance Totalinaianism Scale of Zanthomorphical Economics or DITSZE.
      1 White Old Males– KENNEDY’s, REID’S, BJ Clinton
      2 White Old Females– Helen Thomas, Pelousy, Hillary
      3 Black Males Barry, Rangold,, The Justice Bros, Rev Wright
      4 Black Females–
      5 All other Hispanic, Asian, Liberal Men
      6 All other Hispanic, Asian Liberal Females
      7 Gay and Lesbian Liberals
      8 Moderates that swing liberal
      9 Rino Republicans that want to be liked by DEMOCRATS
      10 Taansgenders The reason transgenders are at the bottom of the list is that there are few of them and can only contribute small amounts to the DEMOCRAT REGIME

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:36am

      Wait a minute here, I am confused. The attackers were BLACK and the victim was WHITE how can this be a hate crime?? I have always been told that minorities are incapable of being racisrt or hateful because of there minority status. Has the DA made some sort of mistake?? Or does being a tranvestite/transsexual trump black?? I need some sort of guidance here, help me out. By the way I don’t belive in “Hate Crimes” I keep it simple and feel we should just punish crime.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:52am

      Of course, never let a crisis go to waste.

      Why aren‘t the cops charged with hate crimes against the general population who aren’t cops when they perpetrate police brutality…

      This is a load of BS.

      This is like saying: “You smoke a cigarette, you’re smoking. You smoke a marijuana cigarette, you’re HIGH smoking.”

      It’s stupid. Both get you high to varying degrees, the only consistent aspect is the fact that it’s smoking.

      Utter stupidity. Semantic BS.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:57am

      If the victim was just a white girl and not transgender would the charges be the same?

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:00am

      Fantastic news that the charges will be upped through hate crimes legislation. At the same time, a lot of people don’t seem to understand the point of hate crimes. Comments like that of Mannax, for example:
      “Why does one require more punishment than the other.”
      Hate crimes are those committed for the express purpose of terrorizing a person based upon their “group.” The classic example is a group of white guys beating a black guy while dropping the n-word; they beat him because of his color, to inspire fear simply because he’s different; but a group of black guys beating a white guy while dropping “*******” or “whitey” would also be considered a hate crime. There’s no way to stop being what you are, but hate crimes need to show clear intent due to an innate difference (perceived or real), which is why they are not always applied.

      So in this case, the hate crimes addition is due to the crime being committed because of her transgendered status. Thanks to the video, it’s a relatively easy claim to prove, as they attack her only because of her “manliness.”

      Hate crimes are NOT separate crimes. They are an additional penalty because the judiciary recognizes that some crimes warrant more of a penalty than others. It’s not a perfect analogy, but it’s similar to the difference between a murder without prior planning and a planned murder. Some crimes are regarded as “worse” than others, and hate crimes are included in that.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:22am

      Locked

      Don’t get me started.

      “Why does one require more punishment than the other.”

      Hate crimes are those committed for the express purpose of “terrorizing” a person based upon their “group.” The classic example is a group of police officers beating a civilian while saying “stop resisting” and telling the public to “stay back”. They beat him because he isn’t a police officer, to inspire fear simply because he’s not wearing a badge and gun; but a group of civilians beating a police officer while dropping “pig” or “snort oink oink snort” would also be considered “assault on a peace officer” (a special interest group magically just appeared before your eyes), as if they deserve some greater deference being the servants, the master being the general public – “We The People”. There’s no way to stop being what you are, but “hate crimes” is a double entendre designed to deliberately interject ambiguity using abstract and totally obfuscated semantics which is 100% imaginary and arbitrary……….

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:34am

      Sinista,
      *Shrug* I’m just explaining it. If you don’t agree with the concept, that’s fine; but a lot of comments indicate people don’t understand hate crimes legislation, thinking it’s “thought police” or a separate crime. It’s an additional penalty due to intent. It seems foolish to ridicule a concept incorrectly. I don’t agree with hate crimes legislation, but it helps to know what it is if you’re going to criticize it. And despite not agreeing with it in theory, I am glad additional penalties will be given to the perpetrators.

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    • hud
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:36am

      Is Holder going to stand still for blacks being charged with crimes, much less hate crimes. I thought the regime had put out the word blacks can’t be charged with crimes.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:38am

      “We hope that Chrissy gets justice and that these young ladies get justice as well.”
      ————–
      That would be a logical impossibility, but I bet Holder can make it happen. Let‘s just turn ’em all into victims; redistribute the wealth so those two black girls get their share.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:42am

      SMITHCLAR3NC3
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:57am
      If the victim was just a white girl and not transgender would the charges be the same?

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      The simple answer is; No.

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    • Who would Jesus bomb?
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:46am

      I saw the video, once was enough. They should make an example of those people. Feed them to the lions, I say.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:49am

      Got my punchline wrong. I meant “redistribute justice”.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:49am

      I wonder how long it will be till talking bad about the President will be declared a hate crime because he is a minority.

      A crime is a crime is a crime, it doesn’t matter the reasoning behind why it is committed, it is a crime either way. To try to say that one crime is more punishable because it happens to a “protected minority” is wrong. That is the government trying to do “thought control”.

      Though because we have the first amendment we are entitled to voice our opinions.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:02am

      “Hate crimes” is a double entendre designed to deliberately interject ambiguity using abstract and totally obfuscated semantics which is 100% imaginary and arbitrary.

      Assault is assault.

      It isn’t special “assault on a police officer” or “assault on a homosexual” or “assault on a minority”.

      This is BS.

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:05am

      Mannax,
      “I wonder how long it will be till talking bad about the President will be declared a hate crime because he is a minority.
      …
      Though because we have the first amendment we are entitled to voice our opinions.”
      I think you have an answer there! When the first amendment is overturned, then it might be. Until then, you can rest easy.

      “A crime is a crime is a crime, it doesn’t matter the reasoning behind why it is committed, it is a crime either way.”
      You are right that a crime is a crime, but the reasoning very much matters (and not just in hate crimes). Without intent or responsibility, a defendant cannot be found guilty (“mens rea” in legal terms). If reasoning does not matter, then there is no different between unintentional manslaughter and a planned murder. The result is the same, someone is dead at the hands of another, but the penalty varies greatly based on the reasoning. Hate crime legislation adds additional penalties based on the reasoning. I think that it’s misguided, but reasoning is a key component to pursuing justice.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:17am

      Locked

      You’re FOS.

      Hate crimes just creates special interest groups who lobby to silence their opposition.

      There’s already varying degrees of assault based on intent.

      All violent crimes are the result of the perpetrator’s contempt for the victim, all crimes are hate crimes.

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    • gramma b
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:19am

      This guy should not have been beaten up.

      But, please, spare us the political correctness on this site, at least. This is not a “she.” At most, he is a poor, confused amputee. If he believed he was the Queen of England, would you feel obliged to refer to him as “Her Royal Highness”? If he believed he was the Pope, would you feel obliged to refer to him as “His Holiness.” For Pete’s sake, why do you feel like you have to play along with his mental illness, and make us all a party to it?

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:22am

      Reasoning is a key component in administering justice, and since no one is able to read minds, or hearts, EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST, then the entire argument is negated, because it is based on arbitrary inferrences of reasoning.

      Punish them for what they did, which was assault, not for who they assaulted- except in the case of disabled, children, elderly, i.e. those who cannot defend themselves. Those who would hurt those who cannot defend themselves deserve special punishment.

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    • gramma b
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:24am

      I agree with Sinista. With a hate crime, you have one punishment for the act, and another punishment for having particular thoughts while committing the act. We should be punished for our acts, only.

      And, the comparison above to enhanced penalties for assaults on police is ridiculous. Because the police put themselves in harm’s way, as a group they deserve whatever extra protection such laws give them. Tell me why the beneficiaries of “hate crimes” are entitled to extra protection? Why do crimes against them count more than crimes against someone else?

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:34am

      Liberal on liberal crime…I don’t have a problem with it! Why don’t they make up and find common ground…like they both voted for Obama.

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    • Mee the People
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:34am

      is the hate white, gay or pervert?

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    • smak
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:41am

      @Sinista MACE
      “Hate crimes” is a double entendre designed to deliberately interject ambiguity using abstract and totally obfuscated semantics which is 100% imaginary and arbitrary.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Fer shur.

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    • aragona
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:49am

      This is definitely a “hate crime.” The victim was targeted by the perpetrators BECAUSE she was transgendered. There are lots of definitions of “hate crimes” that speak to the motives of the perpetrators and almost any type/class of victim can fit within the definition.

      Also, I just want to point out that the crime being charged is probably assault and/or battery – something like that. Calling it a “hate crime” merely serves as a sentence enhancer; it is not a crime in and of itself.

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 12:02pm

      I disagree with the entire premise of a “Hate Crime”.

      Battery is Battery. The degree of the battery (i.e how sever the beating was) should be the gage of punishment, i.e a simple punch would not be as harshly punished a 2 people stomping the crap out of another person that is one the ground….

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    • ZeitgeistBuster
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Hate crime legislation gives the Federal Government jurisdiction in cases that otherwise would be state only concerns.

      It gives the Feds power to poke their noses into internal affairs of the states. Notice the other hand folks.

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    • CatB
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:39pm

      While I don’t believe in Hate Crime (it is all crime is a hate crime all should be equal) if they are going to apply it to one race .. then I am glad to see that it is being applied against that same race .. .FAIR IS FAIR.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:40pm

      gramma b

      The comparison to the police is quite accurate. We all put ourselves in harm’s way by just moving around in public, or just existing..someone could break in while you’re sleeping…

      The police deserve no special deference above and beyond the general public.There is no constitutional provision for it, and they are our servants. They get their rights from the same place we do as citizens, the 2nd Amendment.

      We are the masters.

      We are innocent until proven guilty. The police are the accusers. They have the burden of proof to their accusation of a crime.

      The victim was targeted by the perpetrators because HE supposedly tried to talk to one of the girls’ boyfriend, and HE allegedly tried to walk into a women’s bathroom.

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:50pm

      @SINISTA MACE I have to admit, I’m not usually a fan of yours but you owned this conversation. I agree 100% about the “hate crime” idea. It’s nothing more than catering to special interest.

      To the rest of you, how can you call yourselves Christians and then turn around and blab about this woman not really being a woman? Are you really that insecure with your own sexuality? Grow up!

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    • gramma b
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:09pm

      @betterthantv. Because you can’t make a man into a woman through cosmetic surgery, any more than you can make a horse into a zebra by painting stripes on it. Gender is not that malleable. It goes all the way to our DNA. We don’t have to participate in this sick charade just to show how progressive we are.

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    • Onlybyfire
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:22pm

      You know, some people are born that way. So, it is possible that she didn’t make that choice.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:52pm

      The truth of the matter is that there is practically ZERO White on black crime in America. As a matter of fact, each year nearly 35,000 White women are raped by black males and on average less than 10 blacks are raped by Whites. These kind of inter-racial violent criminal facts are NEVER explained to the ignorant White masses. If the White population was aware of the million violent crimes committed per year on White people by blacks they would DEMAND segregation immediately.

      Educate yourself….nearly all the hate crime in America is Black on White!

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:23pm

      @ONLYBYFIRE I understand that. But you will never get these Bible thumping sheep to understand that. And I say that as a proud Christian.

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    • getalong
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:29pm

      No doubt, they will get off with probation, if that. What I want to know is whether the McD employees who watched that happen and did nothing were fired. Chrissy should sue McDonald’s and the two thug women who think it is okay to beat other people. Maybe the big fat slobs should pay more attention to the way they look if they want to keep their boyfriends from looking at other women or in this case a transgender. Just saying…..

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    • gramma b
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:48pm

      @betterthantv: My position has nothing to do with the morality of the issue. True, a very small number of people are born with ambiguous genitalia. There is no indication that this is the case here. Rather, this appears to have been a physiological male who wants to be a woman. Don’t know whether he has had cosmetic alterations. But, whether he has, or not, he is not really a woman.

      Was he born with this mental malfunction? Who knows? But, whether he was or not, doesn’t mean we have to play along with it. There may be physiological roots to a lot of anti-social behavior. That doesn’t mean we must automatically accept it, and play along. If he thought he was a dog, we would not all be obligated to scratch him behind the ears and feed him Milk Bones. He may be crazy, but we are not. And I refuse to pretend he is a woman. That is crazy.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 6:50pm

      “If he thought he was a dog, we would not all be obligated to scratch him behind the ears and feed him Milk Bones. ”

      rotflmfao

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    • Nightfall
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:45pm

      Sorry for the asterisks. The Blaze censored out the proper word for ladyparts

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    • revel222
      Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:44pm

      Great job to the judge!! They will be judged again!!! It will be harder next time.

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    • Chief Moolah Eggplant
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:34am

      If they had trans-gender restrooms in public places this kind of thing would not happen.
      Restrooms that folks can use no matter what stage of trans-genderization.

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    • 101
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:39am

      “Hate Crimes Laws:” Censoring the Church and Silencing Christians
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7422430176771238221#

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    • bay horse 1
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:07am

      Too damn bad some white person was not there and had a gun, would have been a good time to eliminate a bunch of worthless *******….

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:23am

      Bayhorse

      Teleport back to 1964, you racist.

      We don’t want you here in 2011.

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    • devilhasforktongue
      Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:42pm

      Sorry the Transgender MALE couldn’t defend himself/herself whatever against 2 females…

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