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Update: Indiana College Now Bans National Anthem Melody, Not Just Words

Update: Indiana College Bans National Anthem for Being Too Violent

First, The Blaze reported that a tiny, 1,000-student Mennonite school in Indiana banned the words to the National Anthem, now however, Goshen College has banned the song in its entirety — melody and all.

According to Goshen’s president, Jim Brenneman, the words to The Star-Spangled Banner were “too violent.” The reasonable explanation being that the Mennonite faith reportedly endorses pacifism.

While the school band was allowed to continue playing the tune to the National Anthem, even that is now apparently too much.

The school’s board of directors allegedly told Brenneman to “find an alternative to playing the National Anthem that fits with sports tradition, that honors country and that resonates with Goshen College’s core values and respects the views of diverse constituencies.”

Diverse constituencies.

In a June statement regarding the banned lyrics, Brenneman stated, “I am convinced that Goshen College is on a challenging and rewarding journey toward becoming a more diverse institution that serves an increasingly diverse community.”

“I am hopeful that this resolution will help Goshen College move forward together, and focus on finding new ways to welcome students from our local and regional community.”

NBC added:

“I am committed to retaining the best of what it means to be a Mennonite college, while opening the doors wider to all who share our core values,” Brenneman said. “And I invite others to join us at Goshen College as we make peace in all of its forms, even with the national anthem.”

Art professor John Blosser told The Goshen News that there is much national pride at the school, but that most people aren’t going to blindly accept what the country does.

NBC Sports’ Rick Chandler weighed in, saying: “I suppose we could have followed the example of the Mennonites and simply fled, giving the nation back to the British. But then we’d all be playing cricket.”

One also wonders why Goshen was not content with just the elimination of the lyrics but had to go so far as to remove any trace of The Star-Spangled Banner’s melody from the school.

It could also be argued that the religious freedom afforded by the U.S. is the very reason Mennonites and other “diverse” communities flocked here, and that spurning the National Anthem seems both hypocritical and perhaps even ungrateful.

For in the words of our nation’s anthem:

Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust;”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

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  • Brett Riggs
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:17pm

    I’m not surprised but stunned. And to think I’m a grad from Goshen College. Needless to say there will be some letter writing and calls to be made in the near future.

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    • WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:38pm

      There are allot of academia that need FIRING.
      Come on, parents! Pull your kids out of such schools (it’s waste of your money anyway)!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:59pm

      There will not have to be any letters written. When the SHTF, they can just huddle together and be ripped apart by the mobs and/or watch as the joint is burned to the ground. Case closed.

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    • Indianatea
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:05pm

      As a former student there, I’m not suprised at all. It’s very sad to see the state of schools these days.

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    • bobber
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:32pm

      Hey Brett,
      I just looked at their financial statement, and they receive a ton of funds from the USA Government (meaning us)…maybe – if they don‘t want to be part of our country’s heritage, we should stop sending our dollars to them in support.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:46pm

      Absolutely no different to candidate Obama saying he’d prefer “I’d like to teach the world to sing” as the national anthem because the Star Spangled Banner is too violent. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Leftists hate shows of patriotism. They choose to call it “jingoism”. This college’s edict falls squarely into that line of leftist thought that America is flawed and must be corrected. This is why the left successfully eroded civics out of school teaching.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:49pm

      BOBBER nailed it…The college receives federal funding. If they don’t like the national anthem, they can give up their federal funding that tax payers who love the national anthem paid into. In the interest of “diverse constituences” of course. Call your GOP congressman and let’s add it to the list of cost cuts.

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    • HKS
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Not only is collage a waste of time but now it’s Un-American. Those liberal profs. have done a good job of making themselves irrelevant. Schools are what’s wrong with America.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:04pm

      Well the best way to settle it is to ban Goshen College and it’s board of directors from being American. Probably the part that is too violent to them is the part that says:

      Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
      And this be our motto: “In God is our trust”
      And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
      O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

      After all if we are triumphant when we trust in God, that would be too violent because that would mean someone that isn’t for God has lost and that would undermine “Diverse constituencies”

      Therefore as God is our Trust, perhaps we should ban Goshen College, maybe even send it back to the “Land of Goshen”

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    • Stalinist from Balkan
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:18pm

      Mennonites are true peace-loving Christians,not like all of you warmongering ,satan worshiping ,False prophets.God Bleas all Mennonites.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:32pm

      How about Tip Toe Thru the Tulips Gawd Damn Douche-Bags..
      Love, Celebrate and Show Some Pride in your COUNTRY
      You choose not to Fight, thats your choice, Thats OK the
      rest of US will cover your AZZES..so YOU can live in PEACE…

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:48pm

      What a disgrace! I would never send my kids to a college that thought the National Anthem was too violent! What a Communist thing to do!!!!!

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:05pm

      @ Stalinist from Balkan
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:18pm
      Mennonites are true peace-loving Christians,not like all of you warmongering ,satan worshiping ,False prophets.God Bleas all Mennonites

      Did you read the article ?? We would be under British Rule..
      Most Americans refuse to bury their heads in the sand..
      We will Fight for our Freedom, Some don’t understand this..
      but they don’t mind living here and enjoying the American
      way of life..
      If Stalin had stuck his head in the sand during the battle of
      Leningrad., You Sir, would be speaking German..Men FIGHT
      for what they believe in and cherish, being FREEDOM…

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    • MistaB
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:08pm

      Better yet, all grads that this offends should stop sending money!!

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    • waggie
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:35pm

      My parents live about 1/2 mile from this college. How do ya think a megaphone will sound just outside on a public sidewalk singing as loud as l can the words of our national anthem? I am so proud to be an American and will not apologize or tone it down!

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:40pm

      Why? Why? It’s getting to be that Universities & Colleges are becoming un-American with their demands to censor what we can & cannot do. My Lord, this is honoring our Nation.
      Honor God, Family and Nation! Simple! You over educated idiots are ruining our Country, It’s
      ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL. What do you not get about it????

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 10:21pm

      .
      War made us free.
      What part of that don’t the pansies get?
      How many Mennonites live in Iran? Cuba?

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:52pm

      Time for this un-educational school to be flattened and used for parking spaces.

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    • Virgil_Lance
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 1:10am

      Unbelievable!

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    • old white guy
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 6:59am

      close the damn school. pacifists are dangerous to the well being of any thinking human.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 8:48am

      I believe they have every right to construct the activities allowed –that having been said — I could Not support any institution that does not support the symbols of the Nation that has provided for them.
      The flag is not allowed in certain schools.The Pledge of allegiance -neglected–or disallowed( yet it was Red Skelton’s tribute broadcast in 69 that preceeded my enlistment in the US Army– Oh I would have enlisted anyhow but that symbolic gesture still means something to me . The National Motto- first added to our coin after the bloody Civil War. then finally recognized as our national Motto. The Great Seal . Our Fundamental laws (Mayflower compact, Northwest Ordinance etc. )
      These codify that fundamental idea Religion ,Morality, and Knowledge ,being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. I am as sorry that the personal notion /bias of a few would disallow such. As I am that we are a people that have forgotten God Our neglect of the foundation is the problem And this sin of omission by one institute is no more offensive than the war against Christian Morality by the ACLU or its useful idiots.

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    • Edct
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 9:23am

      Don’t ever give a penny to that unAmerican pos school…it should be shut down.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 9:40am

      Yes! It’s time to bring back Red Skelton”s tribute broadcast. I can still remember it and feel the chills down my arms thinking about it and how moving it was. I’ve seen clips of it several times over the years and get the same feeling. Oh, how I remember the pride we all showed and felt with our Country.
      GOD BLESS AMERICA, please Lord, restore our faith in this beautiful Country.

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    • tkrnstr
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 1:01pm

      I had lived in Goshen 4 years ago, I live an hour away now…

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    • B_rad
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 1:12pm

      What the article isn’t saying is they have chosen to play America, the Beautiful before each game. As a native of the Goshen area and someone who still participates in the community, I am no fan of Goshen College. They are extremely liberal there and I question much of what they do. But they have EVERY RIGHT to play or not play any song they wish. Just because they receive state and federal funds is not a requirement that they play a song. This is the problem with ANY federal monies going to private institutions, it always comes with strings, real or perceived. They are free to play whatever song they like at their own games (I happen to think America, the Beautiful is a great song, though there is a verse that speaks to war – how does that fit their “values”). Then the community and prospective students and parents have the right to determine if their values match the college.

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    • The Meem
      Posted on August 28, 2011 at 9:15am

      “endorses pacifism”…well, isn’t that special. Easy to be such when others will stand on the battle line to protect their freedoms. Ingratitude is running rampant in the U.S. today.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on August 28, 2011 at 10:13am

      Hillsdale College in Michigan, educating the next generation of Constitutional Americans. We raise our children to be good and independent people and then send them to the pit of depravity and indoctrination, not me, Hillsdale it is.

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    • touch
      Posted on August 28, 2011 at 8:58pm

      Convert the POS Indiana school system to fully support Muslims and Illegal Mexicans. That’s the only sect of so-called humanity they deserve.

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  • ryguy1985
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:16pm

    Thats what happens when you have a country run by pansies! Their ought to be a law stating, if you don’t like out laws, our beliefs, our way of life, and our national pride then you are not allowed to live here! America needs to be a little tougher!

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    • OnceAMarine
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:59pm

      I believe they have that law in Iran

      its called Sharia Law, how do you think that is working out for them

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    • sissykatz
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:27pm

      @ Once a Marine

      I think their law seems to be doing better for them than ours is for us. They do what they darn
      well please and no one is brave enough to tell them differently. They even get to take their “Law”
      with them when they leave. They bring their beliefs here and this Country bows down to them just
      as this College has. Why do you suppose they changed our customs? Just to accommodate them.
      Why would we not be thinking of having Religious leaders at the 9/11 celebration ? We might offend
      some Muslims. Most every thing that has been changed in this country of God Fearing people, is to
      accommodate Atheists, and Muslims.I have nothing against either that are non-violent. Except this
      is the USA .You don’t get to impede on my rights for yours.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:31pm

      onceamarine engages in moral relativity.

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    • Cat
      Posted on August 28, 2011 at 7:30pm

      @RYGUY1985 and responders

      Here’s some law for you folks.

      Dhimmitude
      It’s on page 107 of the Affordable Healthcare Act.

      Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

      The AHA allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured.
      Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking”, and “usury” and is thus banned.
      Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this mandate.

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  • 3katmomma
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:15pm

    They could always go back to the song that was used before the Star Spangled Banner became our national anthem. That song was “Columbia, the gem of the ocean”.
    Remember, The Star Spangled Banner was not used as our national anthem until I believe the 1924 Olympics. (and if I remember the story correctly, the piano player played the anthem of each gold medal winner’s country during the award ceremonies, and when it came to the U S, he didn’t like “Columbia”, thought The Star Spangled Banner was better, and played that instead).

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    • Steel Monkey
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:25pm

      actually congress apporved its use in 1931! The US Navy used it in 1889 and the president in 1916 for official use!

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:59pm

      We could change it to “God bless America”. No wait, it has the word God in it. They would never stand for that. Are we really going to let them change our National Anthem? I hope a lot of grads write letters. I hate what is happening to our country.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:35pm

      Something at some point will start the civil war.

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  • Steel Monkey
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:12pm

    What a wanker! How about a quick walk of a tall building? But watch them cry when they need something from the good ol’ USA….BOYCOTT this POS college!!!

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:09pm

    If you want to protest, when in a public place;
    (1) start humming the tune.
    (2) Then softly sing the words. If you can sing. If not, disregard terror instruction number two..
    (3) Yell the words till either the cops are called or the place joins in.
    but get the words right. and don’t falter when they accuse you of being an American.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:09pm

    Why don‘t they stop monkey’n around and just put up the towers for the Islamic “Call to class” songs? If they want to be like that then just go ahead and do it. Be honest with yourselves and others and just go ahead and do all the socialist and communist stuff right now.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 2:10am

      Why not build towers just off campus and play the National Anthem 24/7/365 until the so called college closes.

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  • AJAYW
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:08pm

    Obama 7 Sept. 2008
    Obama continued: “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing’. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – - – perhaps astate or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments …..”

    When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past”.

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    • rienheart
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:31pm

      Is this from Obama Himself?? If So, What the HE!!

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    • bmwrider
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:46pm

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

      Good job, tardo.

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    • whatthecrazy
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 6:13pm

      crazy for a moment i was caught up in the speach sounds just like him

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:37pm

      I didn’t think I could hate this son o f a b itch any more, but I do!!

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:42pm

      LOL@snopes

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:46pm

      One thing about parody, is the truth it’s based on. We have now had plenty of time to ‘know’ this ba stard. Many of us knew him before the election.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:24pm

      @BVDRIDER

      I’m not going to take either side as to the validity of the statements, but if you believe everything you read on snopes, you have no business calling anyone else a “Tardo”, tardo.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 27, 2011 at 12:46am

      @Therightsofbilly

      That’s very true. SNOPES is a democrap husband and wife team, and are extremely leftwing. They have no credibility. What a great way to set up an entity for propagandizing though.

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  • Die Trying
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:08pm

    Goshen College
    1700 South Main Street
    Goshen, Indiana 46526

    (800) 348-7422
    (574) 535-7000

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:20pm

      Yo Die Trying:
      Thanks…people, if you call the school
      be cool.

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    • vtxphantom
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 7:55pm

      The Alumni should withhold donations to Indiana till the school gets their mind right.

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  • vinnymac46
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:07pm

    …you’re WELCOME…vinnymac46 USMC

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  • JCoolman
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:03pm

    Un-American cowards. There is only a couple of colleges my children will ever be able to attend. If at all.

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  • gbisfree
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:03pm

    I am sorry but you and your students are citizens of this country, say the damn pledge of allegiance, sing the national anthem and be proud to be an American otherwise get the hell out of here and go live somewhere else.

    You make me ill Jim Brenneman!

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:01pm

    Do they have a football team? Football is more violent so why don’t they ban football?

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    • Texas Hills Patriot
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:42pm

      I checked, and they don’t. They do have basketball teams (men and women), but I’m sure an elbow is never thrown, or a charge occurs. Maybe they wear helmets, knee-pads and elbow-pads.

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  • kinnick1
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:59pm

    But everyone associated with this college will LIVE in America and enjoy the BENEFITS and FREEDOMS of the greatest country on the planet.. Hypocrites..

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  • Banned on the Blaze
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:58pm

    If i am wrong please let me know, but, they are in the US right? What is next burning the flag?

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  • K Chad Roberts
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:55pm

    What!?!?

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  • don young
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:55pm

    Then lets ban there school if they dont care about america then why sould we care about them.

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  • pennswoods
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:54pm

    These Mennonites (and the Amish too) benefit from the freedoms others have given their lives for over the past 200 years since the American Revolution and they have the gall to sneer at the National Anthem. I hope these hypocrites don‘t take tax dollars from the USA government in anyway shape or form to finance their school or pay the tuition of their school’s students.

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    • azjeff1963
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:06pm

      dont forget when the crap hits the fan to let them defend themselves….i wont waste my ammo.
      its supposed to be violent to remind us of what the cost of freedom is. it gives me goosbumps when i hear it….AND PRIDE!!

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    • Restored One
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:14pm

      That is exactly what I was going to say!

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 10:38pm

      Actually, all pacifists should leave the country. They are no less leeches than the left.

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  • Bonnieblue2A
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:54pm

    It would appear that those making the decisions wish to turn a blind eye and ear to the history of our country. Pretending violence doesn‘t exist doesn’t protect anyone from it. Just ask the Amish community who lost so many little girlsin school at the hands of a monster. Evil happens and while pacifism is a choice sticking one’s head in the ground (this time an entire institution) still leaves the majority of your body exposed to danger and you backside-up.

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  • Grace1798
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:53pm

    Well, in making that decision, they have pretty much admitted they are ANTI-AMERICAN. With that said, I suggest that any TRUE AMERICAN not send their children to that University and suggest to your friends and neighbors of their decision. They won’t get a penny out of me ever! I intend to tell everyone I know about this and inform them that this University hates our country.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:02pm

      ~v~^~v~^~v~^~
      Its beyond not sending your kids there or stopping any finl donations. Alumni need to step and condemn this,vendors that deal with the school should pull out immediately, all sports games should be canceled by schools that would normally be competing with the university, students should walk out. An all out boycott of the school internally and externally should be taking place. Anyone that works there SHAME on you! I know times are tough but there is no excuse or explanation for this. It doesnt get anymore Anti-American than this. This institution should come to a halt by way of “peaceful” revolution. Emergency board of directors meeting should be held and people SHOULD be fired immediately. BUT we all know what will happen, the sheep will put up with it as usual. Stop playing their game start playing their game http://SavingtheRepublic.com

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:04pm

      Were you or your friends planning on attending a Mennonite college?

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  • Texas Hills Patriot
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:52pm

    I’m really getting tired of saying “you’ve got to be kidding me” every time I read another news article, but here we go again.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:32pm

      Glenn Beck told us very soon we would not know our beloved country,I proudly salute our American flag and i also get goosebumps hearing the National Anthem played or sung,God Bless America again

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:51pm

    I’d like to see Mr. Brenneman survive alone in the wilderness for a month. I suspect he’d find the experience “too violent”.

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  • republic2011
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:50pm

    Hang them for Treason… There is some violence for you.

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    • Flagwaver
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:54pm

      No, no, no… If they want diverse constituencies, then let them find funding from them. Cut Federal student aid, cut Federal funding, cut all American support for the college.

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    • M 4 Colt
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 5:33pm

      Flagwaver, the problem is the people we have running Washington right now feel just like this group does and will have no problem funding a school like this, also if you need anymore proof just look at what Obama is doing to our country need i say more?

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:49pm

    A mennonite coller???? What do you study there? How to wear black and handle horse reigns. Perhaps butter churning and cheese cloth weaving. Their biggest class is how to be completely unthankful and traitorous to your nation and cover it with religion.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:49pm

    Two words: Holy shite.
    Wanna really flip out, busybodies? If my Smithsonian jaunts serve me correctly, the tune of the national anthem was related to a popular drinking song. Oh, the horror!

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on August 26, 2011 at 8:25pm

      The melodies for many songs then, as now, are/were taken from older popular songs. I’ll sure drink to the Star Spangled Banner.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on August 26, 2011 at 4:47pm

    Private school (business)? If so, they can do what they want… let the people decide if they want to give of their money. I don’t like it, but like anything else, if I don‘t like the stance of a company I don’t use their product.

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