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Update: Scientists Release Depressing News in Search for ‘God Particle’

Update: Scientists Release Depressing News in Search for God Particle

A depiction of the the particle may look like.

In April, we reported that scientists may have finally found the “God particle” — the hypothetical Higgs boson at the center of life. Back then, by using a giant atom smasher, there were rumors of a major discovery. Scientists scrambled to duplicate the experiment to get confirmation. But alas, confirmation never came.

Foxnews.com reports:

The quest for the elusive Higgs boson seemed over in April, when an unexpected result from an atom smasher seemed to herald the discovery of the famous particle — the last unproven piece of the physics puzzle and one of the great mysteries scientists face today.

Researchers were cautious, however, warning that it would take months to verify the finding.

Their caution was wise.

Scientists with the Tevatron particle accelerator at Chicago’s Fermilab facility just released the results of a months-long effort by the lab’s brightest minds to confirm the finding. What did they find? Nothing.

“We do not see the signal,” Dmitri Denisov, staff scientist at Fermilab, told FoxNews.com. “If it existed, we would see it. But when we look at our data, we basically see nothing.”

“At this point I’d say the chances are 50/50 for the Higgs to exist at all,” he added.

And there are many others who are skeptical, too.

“Still too early to get excited, I’m afraid … I think this story will reach a  conclusion at the main summer conferences this year — end of July. By then, the LHC experiments will have analyzed enough data to be able to say something,” James Gilies, a spokesman for CERN, the agency that operates the LHC atom smasher, told FoxNews.com.

“I had known from the start. It could not be a Higgs, and it can’t be anything else either,” Tommaso Dorigo, an experimental particle physicist who works with both atom smashers, told FoxNews.com. Denisov agreed.

“It was never the way the Higgs boson was supposed decay. It was something completely different. It wasn’t even obtained by the group that was hunting for the Higgs!” he added.

The search for God, or at least his particle, continues.

(Read the full story at Foxnews.com)

Comments (278)

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:07am

    Are these the same scientists that lie about there being global warming too? Scientists are such liars. You must need to be a big liar as a kid to become a scientist.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:13am

      Are they as big a liars as the people who spout off religious “truths” which have no shred of verifiable evidence?

      Not even close.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:25am

      No, these are the same scientist that figured out the truth of atomic chain reactions and said hey we can build a bomb like this. Ask the Japanese if it was a hoax.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:20am

      Sure, the scientists whose research gave us nuclear power, antibiotics, plastics, and electronic communications were all pants-on-fire liars.

      That is how you become a scientist, by telling big enough lies to impress your physics and chemistry professors as an undergraduate, and then by telling some really big whopper to your PhD committee.

      The degree of contempt shown here for people who actually dedicate their lives to discovering more about nature is mind-boggling.

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    • FNTM
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 6:57pm

      Just one shot for the critical thinker. If all you have to do in life is to shoot your venom at Christians then your life is pretty dull. Shame. You might find more satisfaction shooting the bull with a group of Mensans. Real critical thinkers and fairly intelligent too. http://www.mensa.org/about-us

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    • Dale
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:37pm

      Hey, Lib;

      I have it on good authority that God does, indeed, exist. I have experiences that prove He exists, is concerned about me, and helps me. You would dismiss these events as coincidences. Since you cannot share my experiences, I cannot verify them to you. Yet, I ask you to consider some event in your life where you were concerned about an outcome, and yet some ‘coincidence’ solved your problem or dilemma. Can you PROVE that it was a coincidence?

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:42am

      L.A.C.T.ose intolerant has no soul. He is bragging about it and doesn’t even know it! Atheist- Hmmmm,,, No God for you dissedciple

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  • mount hood
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:44am

    I lost God in Church and confirmed he doesn’t exist through Science! Thomas Paine was correct in saying: “and man created God in his own image.” Screw the stupid whales, save our foreskins!

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    • roundup5566
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:08am

      guys like you give me comfort. the stupid state…is the same as yelling…..
      “OH YEA! YOUR MOTHER TO!”. a meaningless rant…no substance that i can see, (other than to stab without effect at people you hate) and completely of subject to boot! next posting why don’t you try a little intelligent argument, instead of spouting garbage nobody cares about anyway!

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  • roundup5566
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:39am

    I don’t see the problem here….all they had to do was have the progressives
    gawd on earth the Messiah….the chosen one….comrade chairman obama,
    wave his mighty hand and then….well …actually nothing would happen because he is a false prophet. oh well…a few tokes on a joint and maybe they will see it….

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:38am

    Whatever!! This kind of story on the blaze brings all sorts out, I won’t touch it!!!!

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:37am

    Some people have to have tangible proof that God exists in any form. When all they have to do is look around and see all that God has done and made. This will eliminate the need for faith and that’s the only way that you can find God in any form.

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  • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:34am

    vickiw said -

    ” Instead of wasting money, why don’t scientists just read the Book?”

    I assume you mean the Bible? Or maybe the Koran perhaps …

    OK, does the Bible explain how your god creates?

    Does it explain where your god came from?

    Does it explain the structure of matter better than the theories we have now?

    Please point us to chapter and verse for these exciting revelations for the scientists.

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    • heavyduty
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:45am

      Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:34am

      vickiw said -

      ” Instead of wasting money, why don’t scientists just read the Book?”

      I assume you mean the Bible? Or maybe the Koran perhaps …

      OK, does the Bible explain how your god creates?

      Does it explain where your god came from?

      Does it explain the structure of matter better than the theories we have now?

      Please point us to chapter and verse for these exciting revelations for the scientists.

      Yes, it tells how God created all things.

      No, because if it explained where God came from would suggest that He had a beginning, therefore He would have an end. God has always been, will always be God.

      We cannot know the structure of matter, our little pea brains couldn’t handle the knowledge to explain it. So why explain it to us.

      If you are going to contradict God and the Bible, at least read it before hand. It would be like me trying to explain physics, when I have no idea what it is. So please try to understand something before you try to explain it. I will be praying for you.

      One statical fact is that more people reading the Bible started believing in God, than quit believing in God after reading it.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:49am

      “Yes, it tells how God created all things. ”

      Where does it explain how god created all things?

      –> HOW <–

      Please point me to the chapter that explains HOW he created things.

      I await your response and I'll forward it to the scientists.

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    • cous1933
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:46am

      L_A_C_T,
      Please read this article and tell me what you think.
      http://nicenecouncil.com/media/display.pl?media_file=60
      Thanks

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    • Notifitsnot
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Yes, you may be a self proclaimed liberal…and yes you may be a genuine atheist (too bad your only holiday is April 1st), and you certainly are critical…but as a thinker, you leave a lot to be desired. Your faith in what you believe is for you to live with…why try and disparage ours?

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:25pm

      LIBERAL:
      First you hold an electron in your left hand between the thumb and index finger, then take tab “B” of a proton and insert it in your verticle slot “A”.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:10pm

      Pray for yourself, heavyduty doofus!
      It appears VICKIW reads the Bible more than you. Or did you just completely mis-understand her post? She basically said the same thing as you, without the insult. Which leads me to believe she reads the Bible more than you. AND, with more understanding!

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:21pm

      @HEAVYDUTY

      Opps!!!!!
      I appologize to you HEAVYDUTY!!!! I am so sorry!!!
      I messed up when I didn’t fully read your post and see who you were addressing your post to. It appears we were both defending VICKIW against the same poster. I usually pass over that trolls posts, as I did this time. So I am the one who mis-understood who you were addressing. Please forgive me in my haste. I feel terrible……………..
      We are on the same side. I was hasty in me response because I defended VICKIW earlier and was on the prod.

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    • Daisy Rose
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:10pm

      Nothing anyone says on this website will convince you that God exists, that He created you, and that He desires you to know Him and to know His love for you. Even if they came up with something to answer your questions, you would not accept it. You’ve been lied to, too many times. You’ve been hurt by too many supposed Christians. You’ve built a wall around your heart and keep others at bay using your cynical, critical tongue. You’re quite pleased and proud of your ability to think clearly, but there’s something missing in your life. You always felt there should be something more. What if this God of Love, who offers you new life exists, don’t you owe it to your critical thinking mind to search it out? You need to experience God for yourself. How else can you know?
      If you have a sincere desire to know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether God exists, call on the name of Jesus. Ask Him to show you that He is God and when He does, you better get down on your knees, beg for his forgiveness and ask Him into your heart.
      I dare you to try this experiment. Your life will never be the same again.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:34am

    I also am on a quest for the elusive Higgs bosoms.

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    • DVT
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:14am

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…That made my day, thanks for the belly laugh.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Mossbrain: You are so silly. :)

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  • HardTxRider
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:29am

    Hey, they don’t need proof of the particle. They should just go for CONSENSUS among scientists dependent on government grants that push political agenda and policies. It worked for the GLOBAL WARMING…..uh….CLIMATE CHANGE scam.

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  • TikeSissy
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:24am

    God is spirit, Not some particle to be found in a man made atom smasher.

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  • EP46
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:20am

    Another attempt to destroy religion. God created science and scientists….thank Him and do something good for humanity.

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  • notforreal
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:19am

    Two things stand in the way of these people- God and the Constitution.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:24am

      Constitition? Sorry but you sound nutz. It’s just science. What the hell does it have to do with the constitution? Stop making normal libertarians seem crazy.

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  • christos
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:18am

    ……HA–HA–HA–HA–HA–HA–definition invisible–something you can not see,doubt they have a basketful of miracles either,their brains match their foolish hearts=foolish–TA

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:11am

    Einstein said, “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” I don’t see the need for Science & Faith to be opponents or mutually exclusive. Here I will just make two brief points:

    1. Do some digging and you will find that the majority of individuals who have made great advancements in our scientific understanding of the universe have been people of faith who believed in God. By no means is this an exhaustive list, but Modern Science owes an inestimable debt to believers such as:
    Isaac Newton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton

    Galileo Galilei http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

    Louis Pasteur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

    Nicholas Copernicus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholaus_Copernicus

    Sir Francis Bacon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon

    Johannes Kepler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler

    Rene Descartes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes

    Robert Boyle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyle

    Michael Faraday http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday

    Gregor Mendel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel

    Albert of Saxony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_of_Saxony_(philosopher)

    Albertus Magnus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertus_Magnus

    Giovanni Antonelli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Antonelli

    Daniello Bartoli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniello_Bartoli

    Ruđer Bošković http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:09am

    Let’s see coffee is bad, then it is good, then it is bad again?

    Oh well at least they are seeking God and if they are true seekers, God will touch their hearts, minds and souls. God is good about that…He’s the same, yesterday, today and forever.

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  • RN MOM
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:09am

    They are so quick to say that religion is a myth (Hawking and friends), it will be a sad day when each of them realize that their life endeavors amounted to no more than silly little unicorn hunts. Maybe they should pray over the accelerator- maybe then God will grant a miracle.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:56am

      No, what they need to pray for these days is more funding!

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:13pm

      They can prove that the economy is in the toilet, they just can’t prove that BO exists.

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    • farmerpat42
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:23pm

      Maybe there’s more scientists out there whom are christian than you think?

      Hawkings doesn’t speak for the entirety of the scientific community, and applying his beliefs as a broad stroke is quite… antithetical?

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  • vickiw
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:05am

    ok, soooooooo, let’s say they find the “God” particle. Then, Where did that come from? Who created it? This makes me smile as much as the “Big Bang”. If that was the beginning of the universe, where did the “bang” stuff come from? and what (I mean Who) caused it? Or created the matter that exploded? We are just beginning to understand HOW God does things, the explosion of knowledge that the Bible said would happen in the end times. Instead of wasting money, why don’t scientists just read the Book?

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    • quizibo
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:33pm

      Your tiny brain wouldnt understand even if a scientist did explain it to you.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 1:27pm

      A scientist did explain it to me and I understood it just fine, thank you!
      Dr. John Ankerberg had a guest on his show once that is an Astrophsicist. This man set out to prove that God does not exsist. He came to the opposite conclusion at the end of his scientific research. He concluded that the Big Bang theory was right. And that God had made the ‘Bang’. He could find no other reason for the ‘Big Bang’ than intellegent design. He split atoms down to particles that have names I cannot even remember. When all his research went as far as it could go, there was no other conclusion he could come to but intellegent design. It was an amazing series of shows produced by Dr. John Ankerberg. The ‘scientist’ who set to prove God doesn’t exsist, concluded He does and became a Christian through faith in Jesus Christ and a fantastic witness, through science, that God does exsist and He created all things.

      If you are interested in the truth, search Dr. Ankerberg’s site through the links at the bottom of the page. Click on science, or whatever topic you want.

      http://www.johnankerberg.org/

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:20pm

      Bluebonnet
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:19pm

      @ Rational Man, Thanks, I do remember reading this story. God does work in mysterious ways.
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  • ZAP
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:04am

    I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

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  • liberalsarealiens
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:46am

    Even if they do find the Higgs it still will not answer the BASIC question WHO? They might find out how but we already know WHO!

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:45am

    Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only God particle there is. It didn’t take me billions in worthless subsidies to figure that out.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:23am

      No kidding. Proof of God is free…if you’re not too blind to see it.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:45am

      Ted, yes, however he did give us dominion over our world, to fill it, and be fruitful and multiply.
      That implies( subtraction, division, square roots, exponents) LOL
      Even the pope today finds no disconnect between discovery science and faith.
      Even a fool can see the mastery in the universe-the macro, and in the microscope -the micro
      scales of our world.
      He made man curious, and gave us plenty of puzzles to solve while we are here.
      Just because of a few opinionated modern scientists, and the dominant athiest thinking
      soes not mean ALL science is that way.
      I believe it is part of the progressive agenda, it’s taken them 100 years to infiltrate EVERYthing in society, Science and politicizing science is part of that.

      Surely God wrote the complexities of DNA and also made it beautiful.
      Why not in the very particles that made up everything ?
      Perhaps someday we may even be able see “made by God” stamped on the underside of the Higgs Boson LOL
      I see no reason why he would not allow us to go there….

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:09pm

      Watchman,

      Liberals are politicizing science? Have you read the comments on here? These freaks are actually acting like scientific research is pointless. Do liberals like science. I sure do. I’d like to think the rest do. Is there some liberal position that science has disproved God? If so, I haven’t heard it. For the life of me, I can’t figure out how “science” disproves God – or proves God. Whether you believe in God or not, isn’t science interesting? I can‘t believe what I’m reading here.

      I’m sure people who belong to certain RELIGIONS may not like what scientists say on various subjects. So, you could say science has shown certain religions to be absurd. What does that have to do with God? I guess people who think science is attacking God are like people who think religion is supporting God.

      Science says about God than religion ever will.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:59am

      @perniciousd

      Surely you have heard of “global warming” er.. “climate change” so I would ask you
      is it liberals or conservatives who are the majority there ? It is quite plain that it is an agenda for something more than carbon. Even the founder of Greenpeace has said it has been taken over by zealots. Why else would “scientists” fudge the data, that was revealed by disclosure of E-mails ?

      The Danger with Mixing God and science starts with the example of Galleleo.
      stirring up people less than knowledgeable invokes a defensive responce you see here in the comments.

      At least with science, and sticking to scientific method theorys can be tested, even long established theorys such as evolution. It would take a sound Proof to discredit it and come up with another.
      Even scientists are subject to politics, funding and the like. Tobacco “bought” supporting “science”
      even smokers would agree it’s noot good for you. Add in God and you have instant polarizing volatile Mixture.

      There is no reason why God and Science are mutually exclusive.

      However, I do agree that perhaps some who are weaker in faith tend to misconstrue scientific findings.
      It is more often than not I find the liberal agenda camped there on that fringe, exploiting it.
      Again, not ALL liberals, let us say perhaps the most boisterous or those with the most to gain for their agenda, a la global warming…. or solar panels and clownflowers replacing a nuke plant…..

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  • thegrassroots
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:44am

    They are looking in the wrong place! The smallest child can understand:

    “In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And The Earth.”
    ~ Genesis 1:1

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:19am

      Agreed.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:09am

      They’re not looking for a creator, they’re looking for a particle.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 1:42pm

      You morons on here fail to realize that discovering new particles could lead to things like flying cars and new methods of propulsion… It’s disheartening to see so many say to forget the particles and just go find god bs… yes lets stay in the forest

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Hey Adam! Take a bite of this. It tastes like chicken!!!!!

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:00pm

      @cesium

      You’ve set your sights too low. Why be satisfied with a mere “particle” when you can have a relationship with the Creator of that teeny-tiny “particle?” Jesus knows who you are and He loves you. How about you getting to know Jesus too? You don’t need to deprive yourself of a relationship with your Heavenly Father for one more second. Jesus is how you get to Almighty God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth, our Heavenly Father. John 3:16,17 Check it out! It’s a lot more simple than you might be thinking it is. God Bless You! : )

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:32am

    .
    Weiner found a particle……..

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:24am

    The consensus is that the Scientists in question will not find the God particle, they will find more money to prove there isn’t a God particle.

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:49am

      Good one..

      All that money (billions) and not a single one of them can calculate the area of a circle with ablsolute precision.

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    • fatsomann
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:06am

      They are working pretty hard to prove that God does not exist and man can rule all.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:52am

      @fatsomann
      Well, we can see how well that is working out for them!! Think that they will be able to find GOD before long……….not something they can control though!! Just have to love the arrogance of the disciples of “science, so called”.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:53am

      @poverty.sucks. Money, money, money. Most research in anything that’s using government money, is just that. Research. They want to stop the goose that laid the golden egg, so they drag most of it out with just enough hope these scientists have lifetime jobs. That’s what research is all about that is funded by the government. Private research is more efficient.

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:27am

      BlueBonnet,

      Do you have the vaguest notion of how much research has been conducted at public Universities for the benefit of America and American industry? You kooks who are afraid of science are missing out on an incredible part of God’s creation. You know what the kooks say, “science is all just a theory until another theory comes along to prove the last theory wrong.” Nice argument to try to discount science, but look at how you live – cell phones, cars, medical equipment, drugs, DVD’s, . . . the list is endless. You rely on the products of science and have complete faith in science every day of your life. Get over it kooks.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:37am

      @Povertysucks:
      No, if they don’t detect the Higgs, they will realize something is wrong with their existing theories.

      Someone will then formulate a new theory, or perhaps some old theory will get a second look.

      There will be predicted experimental consequences, which scientists will then try to detect.

      That is how science works, if it’s real science.

      The energies at which fundamental particles can be generated are so large that you need some pretty expensive apparatus, but it It doesn‘t matter in the slightest whether it’s publicly or privately funded.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 5:54pm

      @Perniciousd. I’m not talking about cell phones, autos, etc. I‘m talking about so much of this type research is to disprove God’s existence.
      Yes, we’ll find a better way to do many things. Just look at what’s happened to our world over the last 50 years. New technology every day, we can hardly keep up with it any more. Everything was given for our use. But God is omnipresent.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:40pm

      BLUEBONNET
      If you really think 20 countries collaboratively spend billions of dollars, years of construction time and placed thousands of scientists at CERN for the purpose of disproving the existence of God your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:22am

    Well, Duh!

    Only GOD has, can create, makes the “GOD” particle.
    Only GOD makes, creates human beings with souls.

    Those two sentences explain the left and its leadership and where they all, I repeat ALL, are heading and why they act, think, behave as they do.

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:28am

      In God I Trust. Amen.

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    • foobear
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:04pm

      @Kickagrandma: The Higgs is horribly misnamed as “the God particle”. It has nothing to do with God, especially, but rather is simply a carrier of mass.

      The Blaze is especially horrible on science reporting.

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:20am

    Oh ye of little faith.

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 6:59pm

      I’ve read many articles and lots of comments on The Blaze.

      For some time, I’ve been intrigued about how this group – the Blaze Posters – thinks. A generalization.

      Reading the comments to this story has convinced me beyond doubt that a large number of you are the dumbest people around. And I know without doubt there is absolutely no chance that you strange people will ever say anything new or interesting. Maybe you’ve been programmed, maybe you live in fear, maybe you need certainty, maybe its your upbringing . . . there’s some bizarre thinking going on here. And for most of you it will never change – boring, stupid, intolerant, people afraid to think – you can only spout the tales you were told growing up – living in a prison built by someone who said he talked to God. God bless you miserable, intolerant, judgmental, ignorant, anti-education kooks.

      Cheers!

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    • Susan09
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 8:58am

      @Perniciousd Unless you can PROVE TO ME that The BIBLE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD THE FATHER and HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON is NOT to be Believed I will Go with HEARING HIS WORD , KNOWING CHRIST JESUS is Risen and His Baptism OF the Holy Spirit is a REAL EXPIERENCE for MANY.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:28pm

      @PERNICIOUSD
      I think you pretty much nailed it. I come on here once and a while just to see what this crowd is saying about one thing or another. I’m always amazed at what seems to be a pride in being uneducated and uninterested in pursuing objective truth. If Glenn or Rush or Mark or one of that ilk says it, then damn it that’s all I need. I call it lazy, maybe afraid.

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  • sbynyc
    Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:19am

    God found me through Jesus and it wasn’t in a lab.

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    • ISeeDanger.com
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:59am

      Yawn…
      That’s a shame…
      Next story.

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    • Aaron in Polk County
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:03am

      I found God in church, I lost God through science.

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    • slimkendall
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:14am

      Curse-ed Neptune’s Bones!!!

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    • outsidethebox
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:22am

      I suggest reading the book of John in the Bible. That‘s where you’ll find God. And he isn’t some “particle”.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:23am

      @SBYnyc:

      Indeed, all of us find God via Jesus.

      What is of interest to me though, on a scientific view, one article a few weeks back concerning the search for the so called ‘God Particle’ described a previously unknown phenomena of physics; as the lead researcher said “We do not know or understand what it is; that is what makes it so enjoyable.”

      The ways and means of the Father are kept a mystery in part, and He reveals to the world what He deems to reveal. I feel (just my own oppinion) that this new discovery happened to remind people that there is still much we will discover and wonder of, in curiosity and delight, from his revealed handiwork about him…God is here, and the creation is a reflection of his laws and order.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:30am

      They are going to find a Black hole and destroy the earth.

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    • ConservativeChristianB1954
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 8:57am

      Amen brother!

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:09am

      why not do a story on cloning ?
      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread513915/pg10

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:18am

      the whole theory that there is 1 electron is the most F’d up theory anyone can come up with.. just because you can’t stop it to study it, does NOT immediately mean that there is only 1.. i don’t even get how logic led you to that theory. what a joke.. if anything they are too fast, they can’t be stopped, therefore can’t be studied by any means we have yet.

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    • avenger
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:37am

      God is everywhere…

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 9:55am

      Actually JB, we are pretty good on the electron, although even there we learn new things everyday
      IE: did you read where they found that it is actually close to being round in shape ?
      The Higgs-Boson is just going infinitely smaller It can be predicted mathematically.
      In the standard model of particle physics they have observed the 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation leptons.
      (electron, Muon, Tau & neutrino’s ) The Quarks and what makes up the quarks have not been isolated
      They are just looking VERY small. actually looking for the forces that give particles mass
      the Higgs-Boson is responsible for particles having ‘intrinsic’ mass.
      That is, if they can find evidence of it. the Large Hadron Collider “LHC” experiments are
      looking for the last pieces of the standard model.
      This standard model of Physics is blaze’ compared to string theory and the theory of everything.
      they get REALLY out there with some of it….

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:01am

      Maybe they could name their collider, “THE TOWER OF BABEL”

      First of all, “God paricle” is a complete misnomer. They are looking for a particle so they can “DISPROVE” the existence of god.

      Where‘s the left’s “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE” now? Congress has to approve funds for this. It’s purpose is to disprove creationism. This is clearly anti-religion. And our tax dollars are paying for it!

      Now, I’m all for research and stuff. But, I have to ask. How much has our government spent on research? Look at NASA. Yes, it was ‘cool’ to go to the moon. Yes, it is ‘cool’ to look at pictures of outer space. But, what did we get for all our money? Bragging rights of being first on the moon? Bragging rights of the mars rover? An expensive mattress that I think is too hot to sleep on? Velcro? All for what price?
      As an entrepreneur, I certainly wouldn’t invest in THAT venture!
      This whole ‘science’ industry is WAAAY out of control. They exist to justify their existence to justify their existence to justify their existence to…
      Single largest donor to Obama was UCLA $1,591,395.00. For WHAT?? What POSSIBLE reason does a PUBLIC school have donating OUR money to a POLITICAL campaign?
      Follow the money, folks.
      This self-justification is the same exact scheme the pols in all parties have run for decades – they GRANT money (earmarked) in return for campaign contributions to be re-elected so they can grant money (earmarked) in return for campaign contributions to b

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    • myfamily04
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:07am

      Amen. I found God through Jesus Christ…There is no scientific evidence that God leaves lying around…GOD is our creator and that will always be a mystery for all of science.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:10am

      Challenge: What is:
      A first generation fermionic Lepton, and as such has a half-integer spin, and an electric charge of −1.

      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      Yep, you guessed it, the electron…
      Science is FUN !

      Just because they call the Higgs-Boson “the God Particle” does not
      necessarily mean an affront to God.
      In the Standard Model of Particle Physics, it is simply the most basic particle or force
      they currently predict, it’s what makes up the other particles or “holds” them together.
      I think if you did a survey you would find MANY scientists who believe in God.
      They however need to keep it secret or get drummed out of the field, sadly the progressive liberal
      is entrenched even in Science, a La Global Scamming….

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    • Daisy Rose
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:17am

      to: I see danger
      I pray that the Lord will remove your spiritual blindness and touch you in a mighty way, so your cynism may turn to bold proclamation that “Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life.”

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:18am

      Asking Newton to fetch Hercules bow makes more sence than what these jojo’s are doing

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:19am

      Science continues to go forward. The phrase “God particle” has no religious connotations at all. And as usual, the same handful of superstitious small minds here turns the story into a Jesus seminar.

      wow

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:23am

      Tom, I agree to a point.
      I mean we have wonderful computers as a result of first attempting to range the big guns in WWI & WWII they used to have to calculate that by “hand” back in some blackboard office.
      Where would we BE without Orange Tang ? LOL

      On a different tangent, Energy, if the Politico’s were serious about an alternative to OIL
      We would put the full weight and treasure of the US behind solving FUSION.

      I recently wrote an article on that here:
      http://www.watchman2012.com/spout36.html

      FUSION would change the world, and there is NO DOUBT that solving it would create
      thousands of jobs creating materials, plasmas, buildings and powerplants.
      A whole new generation of inspired schoolyard scientists.
      A Fusion reactor could be scaled down for homes, neighborhoods, and maybe even transportation.
      So all a President would have to DO is embark us on a program like the Moon Effort.
      Instead we get robbery and control, and dumbed down schools, with the Pols telling us we are in sunset of our society.
      Sad really….
      FOR THEM
      I BELIEVE WE ARE EXCEPTIONAL
      2012 is the Beginning !

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:25am

      They will never find God through science. Kinda like looking for the lost sock. Won’t happen. You find God through belief in Jesus. (My father and I are one, now what does that tell you?) Tells me all I ever need to know about God and my total belief in HIM.

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    • Evileye
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:46am

      Why do people become so upset because they are trying to define sub atomic particles?
      Is it so offensive that some one might harbor a belief that does not coincide with your own.
      During the black plague they went around Europe killing Jews because they thought God was punishing people for the crucifiction of Jesus.
      Most wars and the loss of countless live have been lost because people want to kill each other over
      something that is total unprovable( where did the Big bang come from where did god come from)
      One might consider that God And Nature are one and the same. But if we did we would have no excuse to butcher each other.Tolerance is some thing God Or nature forgot to implant in the human
      mind

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:08am

      Tomferrari:
      “‘God paricle’ is a complete misnomer. They are looking for a particle so they can “DISPROVE” the existence of god.”
      They are looking for the Higgs boson because their theories predict it should exist. God for them is neither here nor there; the term “God particle,” which first entered into currency as the title of a book by physicist Leon Lederman, is simply a figure of speech.

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    • markamerica
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:12am

      I guess it would be healthy to know a little more about the subject before we start casting insults at the scientists. The particle for which they‘re hunting is officially called the ’Higgs Boson,’ and folks in the scientific community refer to it as such, or in shorthand, simply the ‘Higgs.‘ The term ’God Particle’ was attached to it originally by scientists who thought it was non-existant. Of course, media ran with that because, well, after all, it will get the kind of reaction you see here.

      So what is the Higgs? Well, if it exists at all(and there exists a large and growing number of scientists who believe it doesn’t,) the Higgs Boson would be the elusive particle that actually causes all other particles to have the property of mass.

      You see, one of the real problems in physics is that we have a description of how gravity works at the largest scales, thanks to Einstein, but at the smallest scales, we don’t understand how gravity works at all. We don’t understand how any particle has mass. So the Higgs was proposed decades ago by Peter Higgs to describe how mass is obtained. Problem is, we’ve not found it. We’ve built larger and larger colliders in part simply to find this one particle, thus far to no avail. I think it doesn’t exist, at least not as proposed, and that our fundamental understanding is wrong.

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    • coladude
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:14am

      God is invisible remember.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:20am

      Hey guys…quit LQQKing for particles. Just walk outside and take a look around. ‘The Heavens declare the glory of the Lord, and the firmament shows His handiwork.” Ps. 19:1. And for all you atheist out there who believe the the BIG BANG theory I have just one question! Who made the Bang?

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:35am

      Some people need training wheels to find God. Some don’t. Some people need extensive rules. Some don’t. Some people need a history and a group with some “authority” from God. Some don’t. Some people need a Living Prophet to tell them what God wants them to do. Some don’t.

      Some churches, like the LDS Church, are just that – training wheels for the spiritually inclined. And so they fear science because it might contradict their church. How old is the earth, how is energy produced, what does DNA tell us Israel and the North American indians, what do archeologists say about the Americas and old civilizations, what do Egyptologists say about old funeral pyres or kinderhook plates?

      Yes, science can be scary for those who must cling to the stories that support their church. That’s because their church is what holds them up – training wheels for the spiritually inclined. If you can let go of the training wheels, there is nothing to fear in science – only another way to marvel at God’s creation. Its a little scary to trust yourself. But, did God create you to be afraid of your thoughts, your ideas, your ability to see him and find him in every moments of your life? Have a little faith in God.

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:44am

      WATCHMANY2K,

      I would tell you that you’re too smart for this website and ask you to please get out of here – you’re making us all feel stupid, including me. However, despite your obvious education you‘re apparently stupid enough to think liberals don’t believe in God? Did I get that right?

      I’d posit that many conservatives are afraid of God on the whole. Afraid of the mystery. Hence they . . . cling to simple versions of what it means to be religious. And, largely fail to connect on a deep level with God.

      Seriously though, you’ve reminded me how woefully undereducated I am. Thanks.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:44am

      Cobra Blue:

      I absolutely understand your sentiments!

      Had the Psalmist been able to look deep within–down to what scientists call the Planck scale, which is unimaginably small–surely he would have felt the same awe he felt looking out and up at the heavens.

      Thanks to science, we have begun to do exactly that.

      You should be excited, not disparaging, about comtemporary physics!

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:20pm

      Scientists will eventually find God if they keep digging and if they are honestly seeking the truth.

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    • motes_art
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:44pm

      @OUTSIDETHEBOX

      Which “Book of John”? There are four; one gospel and three epistles… Five if you count his apocalypse.

      LOL! Oh, let me guess. You are a “Bible Christian” Sorry; I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. But, that is funny.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:47pm

      Oh the futility of man and his ways………..
      God has made it so simple, even a little child gets it. Maybe that is part of the problem. The more we ‘grow up’ and gain little tid-bits of knowlege, the smarter we think we are and have to figure things out on our own. When all it takes is child like exceptance of the things God puts right before our eyes and in our hearts. Could it really be that simple? Yes! It really is that simple. But man, in the darkness of this age, the confusion of this world, searches for answers when all it takes is a childlike faith in what God has already shown us. It is hard for man, as shown in this article, to pinpoint infinite wisdom and intelligent design. He rejects the things right before his eyes that God has shown us in nature and rejects the absolute truths that cannot be denied. So, he makes up his own truth like Darwin and others have and tries to find answers to questions he refuses to except through faith. The same kind of faith it takes to just know he will have air to breath today, his heart will keep beating for the next 5 mins., or that the sky is blue and gravity will hold him on the ground today and the earth he lives on will keep spinning. We all have faith, to some degree. The more man searches for the answers to his questions, the more he points to the unsearchable, incomprehensible wisdom of God and His ways. And points to the smallness and ignorance of himself as compared to God.
      It really is that simple

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 1:14pm

      @Perniciousd

      LOL
      No, you put words in my mouth.
      More precisely, the liberal agenda is prone to atheistic views.
      Modern History proves that, along with most ‘isms’

      I read, read, read, education does not end with graduation.
      Read read read, ask questions, read some more.
      that’s the formula….

      Read to your kids, have them read to you, read in front of them.
      how many of our social problems are related to illiteracy ?
      It’s the greatest gift we can give to any of our children.

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 1:54pm

      TOWER&FEMACAMP:
      They had better hurry because the Dems are almost there.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Do you think a dog can explain how it’s food was made? We weren’t made to know everything. We”re just a bunch of geeks thinking we can figure it all out.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:10pm

      @watchmany2k

      Sure wish I had your intellect and smarts. Thanks for sharing.

      Funny thing though, while I aint overly bright, and understand very little of physics and science, I can see through liberal and progressive talking points with ease. I was fresh out of my first five years (enlisted then) of the army, and had just started college when Bill Clinton was running for President the first time. I remember being baffled at people who were supposed to be intelligent and educated could not see through the lies.

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:14pm

      god is not lost .
      we are

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:38pm

      There’s a fly on my screen.

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    • Sound The Trumpet In Zion
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:55pm

      This is really ridiculous, these “geniuses” are trying to shrink God down to a “hypothetical Higgs boson”. Aren’t these people smart enought to realize that God is way bigger than anything our minds could imagine and they will NEVER fit God into a little equation or anything that is small enough to be able to be comprehended by man.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Why did I keep hearing Dr. Sheldon Leonard discussing this with his “friend” Dr. Amy Farrah Fallow while I was trying to make some sense out of this whole thing?

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 2:59pm

      Who couldn’t have predicted this?

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    • corbecket
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:47pm

      It is sad, and somewhat decerebrate, that folks are getting their religious fur up about this “God Particle” nomenclature. I fear the term is a bit of a misnomer, but for those that are acquainted with particle physics it really doesn’t have much to do with religion. The opposite is true as well, religion doesn’t have a great deal to do with science.

      There is the study of the physical world (science), and the supernatural world (religion). They are not in conflict with each other. In fact, they are completely separate. It’s just when physicists try to mix religioius nomenclature with their science that things get muddied up. Of course, it’s also silly for the religious among us to reflexively take offense at this.

      Ideally, there are those individuals that realize that we are both physical and supernatural beings simultaneously. The conflict is that most folks fail to adequately distinguish between the worlds. Granted, it is a dichotomy, but too many take offense, rather than rationalizing the perceived conflict between the two planes. They are just different planes of existence, that do not have to conflict.

      Many can appreciate both. Unfortunately, many never will.

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    • FAL Guy
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:57pm

      For those who quote the bible and then say disparaging things about science as my devout Christian mother explained to me, God is all powerful and can choose any way he wants to achieve an end. The reason the bible doesn’t spell out how God achieved his creation is because He had to spell it out in terms that people of the time would understand. So for a thought experiment think what would have happened if God had tried to explain the reason behind say, lightning to ancient people. They would not have got it. Same thing for evolution. Which is why I find it hypocritical for Christians to question science. As a Christian you can attribute anything science says to God, for who are you to know exactly how He meant things to be done. Clinging to simple explanations from the bible that was written for less advanced people is rather thin I think.

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    • Rice Water
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 4:37pm

      To verify the existence of even subatomic particles, you’d need an accelerator of the same dimensions as the orbit of Jupiter. After that, you start running into pesky problems like infinity and singularities. For practicality’s sake, a physics grad student with a mac would be just as succesful at demonstrating a “God Particle” as these researchers.

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    • salvawhoray
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 5:30pm

      check out a movie called “The Man From Earth” it’s damn good.

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    • outsidethebox
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 5:42pm

      @MOTES_ART That would be the Gospel of John, the 4th book in the New Testament. And please stop with the insults. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. I’m just tired of scientists trying to say that god is some microscopic organism that just happened by some fluke chance. If they want to find “GOD”, don’t rely on science. Look inside their own hearts and they’ll find him.

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    • jcannon98188
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 6:52pm

      The “God Particle” is not the particle that is “God” but rather the particle that God used to create everything. Science and Religion are not polar opposites. Science, if anything, proves the existance of god. Please stop over reacting and learn a little something.

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    • Dale
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 7:30pm

      jcannon98188
      The “God Particle” is not the particle that is “God” but rather the particle that God used to create everything. Science and Religion are not polar opposites. Science, if anything, proves the existance of god. Please stop over reacting and learn a little something.
      ————————
      I would say that Religion is not Science’s enemy, however, many scientists are Religion’s enemy. I suggest that if what you are looking for does not exist, you won’t find it.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:26am

      hmmm…
      well,

      MEA CULPA for impuning motives to people.

      Why would you search for a particle they “don’t believe exists” according to one of my critics?
      I’m not rebutting you, I’m asking a question. There are an infinite number of things that we believe do not exist. So, wouldn’t it be better to spend time looking for what we DO believe exists?

      I am definitely for research. But, why does the government need to be the source for funding? It is beyond the scope of the Constitution. I propose, if the research is too expensive for individuals or corporations to undertake, it deserves to be delayed until such time as it is more financially feasable for the private sector to do so.

      Still not 100% convinced that something named “god particle” has nothing to do with God, but,
      I do offer my sincere apologies for impuning motives to anyone incorrectly.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:25am

      @TomFerrari

      No apologies necessary. Huge sums of money “invested” require debate, and I agree with you there.
      Lookup CERN, it is a number of Govts that have invested in this particular project.
      Often, things start out as new ground for military applications, so I would deem that constitutional.
      Even if it were only a method to power a ship. there are MANY things we can spend our treasure on
      I believe science is a good and important one.

      Looking for a particle that some believe may not exist, is using scientific method.
      Considering the standard model theory of the universe,
      they have detected and isolated most of the elementary particles in the model.
      Now they are seeking evidence or not of the forces and ‘thingys’ that impart mass and gravity.
      If they cannot find them, it’s back to the blackboard to “see” why and find another theory to test.

      It is quite heady, but we never know what can come out of a discovery or what it can be used for our benefit in the future. Universities have been studying lasers and plasmas for no reason other than the pure science of it, but now the knowledge of those plasmas and lasers could be a key in perfecting sustained fusion, which would be the only real alternative to electricity production that whole countries could enjoy.

      as far as God particle nomenclature, someone else said it,, it started out as a joke, and the media has run with it. think seven in voyager, it would be “perfection” of the model, and give a hi

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:30am

      continued)

      As far as “God particle” nomenclature, someone else said it,, it started out as a joke, and the media has run with it. think seven in startrek voyager, they had a show on a God particle, it would be “perfection” of the model, and give a hint as to where to study next- whether they find it or not.

      sure some are sarcastic about God, but not everyone.
      We KNOW the media writes headlines to attract attention, so this definitely does that.
      It has spurred quite a debate here….

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:57pm

      I still contend it is the private sector that should fund research.
      On matters of national security, I will concede.
      However, pure science without an objective other than knowledge, I do not feel is the purview of our ‘Constitutional’ government.

      I only apologise fo impuning motives, not for thinking or believing anything. I own my thoughts and feelings and opinions and am proud of them. I am open minded enough to consider others ideas, opinions and beliefs as well.

      I still hold the belief that science is more efficient when trying to prove something than trying to disprove something, as there are infinite things to disprove, and a finite number of things TO PROVE. When MY MONEY / OUR MONEY / TAX MONEY is used to fund research, all the moreso. When you are using YOUR OWN MONEY, and ONLY your money to fund research, you can use it as inefficiently as you choose.

      Analogy – Did Thomas Edison try mixing peanut butter and natural rubber in the presence of dog crap with the objective of proving that is NOT the way to make a light bulb? Or, did he theorize / hypothesize ways TO make a light bulb, and then try to prove how TO make a light bulb. YES, every one of his results did yield knowledge about how NOT to make a lightbulb. But, his objective was how TO make one. There are an infinte number of ways NOT to make one.

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:18am

      excellent rational man.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 4:01pm

      @Aaron in Polk County

      Funny, I found God through science.

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    • Susan09
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 8:49am

      We as mankind Do not Find GOD. WE ARE known BY GOD, WE SEEK HIM BY SEEKING HIS KINGDOM AND HEARING and READING HIS BOOK. Has NONE EVER HEARD OR KNOWN FAITH COMES BY HEARING and HEARING BY what was that again.. Oh NOW I remember BY THE WORD OF GOD..

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