Update: Soldier Describes Killing of Innocent Afghans
- Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:57am by
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Five U.S. soldiers have been charged with killing innocent Afghans for sport. New video now shows one of the accused, 22-year-old corporal Jeremy N. Morlock, describing how the group went about executing their victims:
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warner
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:56pmLike our society…we are a mixture of goog and bad! I praise our brave heros and sadly shake my head in shame at the actions of a few. These young men should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:20pmOn the matter of Afghanistan, people should be listening more to realistic rational people like Jack Devine, while listening less to utter fools like David Petreuas who thinks he can magically make rivers run backwards if he has enough hundreds of billions and enough Soldier‘s and Marine’s bodies to boil and bake in his Clear-Hold-Build Hearts-and-Minds, which he calls COIN, Mohammedan stew cauldron.
Report Post »seayalater73
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 1:02pmWe did just as Petreus ordered and lo and behold it worked. It is not a glamorous way to fight, it is not a quick fix, it was painful… but it worked. You cannot say what the locals are capable of in terms of self governance if you don’t provide the stability and security first. If all you do is inflict chaos, you can’t say no one was capable of bringing order. Without order you have no one to deal with, no garruntees to enforce. You have to fallow through with stuff like this, no matter how long it takes standing around in the sun. Either that or don’t get involved to begin with. If we had left a vacuum after the old regimes were taken out would you have absolved the US Military of the consequences? Reaaally? I think not. I think no matter what we do you will always fall back on old lessons from old battles. We have never been able to afford ourselves that mentality, not those of us who have made a lifetime dedication to the services.
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 1:25pmOur continuing involvement in Afghanistan, and to a lesser degree in Iraq, is having the insidious effect of further promoting Sharia. Already, because of that involvement, Petraeus has, in effect, declared our Soldiers and Marines there, and our Constitution here, hostage to a bunch of misogynist, pedophile throwbacks to the 7th century. Petraeus seems to have forgotten that he took an oath to the U.S. Constitution and not to the koran and sharia law.
Petraeus has even had “May you have a blessed Ramadan” signs put up at U.S. Army mess halls in Afghanistan. When a battalion commander early on in Iraq he had signs put up saying, “What have you done to win Iraqi hearts and minds today?”
U.S. Soldiers prior to being sent to Afghanistan are now being trained/indoctrinated to enter such as an Afghan police station, beg permission to take off armor, ask all the proper subservient questions of such as the Afghan police officer, allow such as the Afghan police officer to call the Soldier’s predecessor a liar without a single word in objection, and then offer unconditional aide. This is actually happening in U.S. Army training and they are being graded on how well they do at being dhimmis!
Why are so many Americans still blind to Islam? How can so many be so blind and for so long? There are a number of reasons for this and one of the main ones, quite possibly the main one, is the contention by many, including George W. Bush, and including many of our top generals like David “Islamic Hearts and Minds” Petreus, that Muslims, except for some “extremists”, want freedom and liberty – just like us – and that most Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan are our allies, friends, compatriots. If people believe this they are not going to see Islam as much of a threat. If I believed it, I wouldn’t. Why would they?
WWII – The Righteous War
Report Post »Vietnam – The Useless War
Afghanistan – The Sleeping with the Enemy War
Iraq – The Jury is still Out War, but it will likely be somewhere between Vietnam and Afghanistan, with Iran the real winner.
seayalater73
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 1:45pmWhat you read on the internet is usually not what happens when we enter their government facilities. True, I have seen some really stupid training guidence proposed by self promoted “experts” stateside, but trust me when I say what we do with our LN partners in our sector is entirelly up to us. I have never begged for anything from them and they never expect me to; most of the KLE’s are about getting accountability for their actions, and it works.
Report Post »As to us being forced to operate under sharia or any other local law I have never seen it. Having operated in a 3 other foriegn, non-muslim nations, I can say we do take pre-cuations not to stomp too hard on local sensibilities. But that is about as far as it goes. The locals learn real quick exactly what we are there for and not to demand much more. To top it off we have active out reach to segments of their population that are historically oppressed under sharia. We can never tell them how to live in the end, but for as long as we are there we do take pains to show them the bigger picture. If you want to cherry pick points of doctrine toward that objective, you can. I can’t convinve you otherwise. All I can recommend is that you volunteer in some capacity to go over there and see for yourself. Be advised: your in for a culture shock on the military side. Todays joe is not the little mindless robot that popular media makes them out to be. They are smarter and tougher than anyone gives them credit for. Which only makes events such as these the more painful to reconcile.
FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 1:54pmYahweh and the Founding Fathers, David Petraeus
Would never okay the way you do your thing
Ding ding ding, ding ding ding
And you’ll get yours, David Petraeus
Coddlin’ and even sidin’ with that Islam stuff like you do
Boo hoo hoo, boo hoo hoo
Where have you gone, General George S. Patton?
Our nation turns its longing eyes to you
What’s that you say, David Petraeus ?
You have banished ‘ol Blood and Guts far away
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey
Coo coo ca-choo, Mr. Pentagon
Report Post »Mohammad appreciates you more than you will know
Woo woo woo, woo woo woo
Allah blesses you, yes, Mr. Pentagon
He may grant some small temporary mercy to those infidels who their own mislead and betray
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey
promise84
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:45amIt is sad to see some people claim to be advocating an opposition to those who promote the erosion of libetrty attempting to use the tactics of their enemy. No good can come from it.
Report Post »For those who may claim to be Christian: Can a good tree bring forth evil fruit, or a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit?
For those who do not: War without boundries?? Sound like anyone else you may have heard of recently?
FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:00amCirca 2012:
Just about for years ago I set out on Obama’s Afghanistan road,
Seekin’ my fame and glory, lookin’ to turn the mullah’s hemorrhoid into a pot of gold.
Well, things got bad, and things got worse, I guess you will know the tune.
Oh ! lord, stuck in Obama’s Afghanistan yet again.
Flew in yet again on a big plane, I hope I’ll be in one piece flyin out when I go.
I was yet again just passin’ through, must now be yet another 3 tours or more.
Running out of time and patience ["Not to complain but whatever the hell happened to my youth?!"], looks like they took still more of my friends.
Oh ! lord, Im stuck in Obama’s Afghanistan yet again.
The Hope and Change man in the White House said yet again I was on my way.
Somewhere I lost his connection, he ran out of words to say.
I came into Kabul, yet another one year stand, looks like the plans fell through yet again
Oh ! lord, stuck in Obama’s Afghanistan yet again.
Mmmm…
If I only had a woman ["Hey Jack, do you remember what a woman is?"], for evry Obama tour Ive done.
And evry time Ive had to fight while cheered on by CINO’s Obama sat back home oblivious to Islam and power drunk.
You know, Id like to catch the next plane back to where Im from.
Oh ! lord, Im stuck in Obama’s Afghanistan yet again.
Oh ! lord, Im stuck in Obama’s Afghanistan yet again.
- CCR Soldier Boy
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:35amYou seem to like to post this in various places on the web. We get it, you are a pacifist.
Again, what war have you served in?
There is an experession you should remember. Those that served. will never forget, Those that didn’t, will never know.
Report Post »seayalater73
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:53amYou will never know what it is like to wake up after two hours of sleep and get ready to do it all over again, to step off the plane in Savanna and know you’ll have to get new guys ready to do it all over again, to watch your 3rd Commander in Chief be sworn in on shallow pacifist promises and know you’ll just do it all again under a different name anyway. To face into the whimsey of national and global political winds with your back straight and head up and determined to defend what cannot be allowed to change. To hit the trail again, and again, and again. I don’t expect someone like you to ever get it. Just don’t sound off like you know, becuase you don’t.
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:14pmRVN – mos 1193
Report Post »seayalater73
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:57amThe ugly reality is that the level of violence of action nessassary to fight these battles does sometimes place less than mature minds in positions to sink into this depravity. We have the UCMJ in order to deal with it. If guilty, they will be punished. That is what separates us from all the other major military powers of the last two centuries. Too little attention is paid to that.
Report Post »Additionally you get more of this kind of behavior when you place death and destruction on a pedistal. There are young men entering the service with little or no moral fabric to begin with, and then they get told how much more awsomer some other person or unit is becuase of all the combat experience they have. Entire platoons and companies lose sight of what they are supposed to be doing in order to prepare for current and future Ops, individuals both old and new just never get tested enough ahead of time. All so individuals can bask in reflected glory, and look for oportunities to replicate past events. Dead wrong.
Those who select and train units for these missions need to put smart fighting and UNIT mission success back on the pedistal.
By and by, it takes recruits with a moral fabric to build such units. It is better to build the mechanics for fighting into those with a resistance to killing, than to struggle to control those who don’t have it. No, the military of 2010 is no place for someone to develope a sense of right and wrong. We are not finishing school for your misbehaving kids.
Instead of asking what went wrong on the ground there, ask what is going wrong back in the rear.
Weetsie
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:35amI am not condoning in any way what happened, but I wonder if we heard the whole story in this clip. Could there have been a reason for this happening? When a unit goes into a village, do they do surveillance on the village first? It seems to me that they would. Perhaps they witnessed a stoning or something before hand. Check this video out:
Report Post »http://www.breitbart.tv/shock-video-purports-to-show-taliban-stoning-woman-warning-graphic/
What would you do if you seen someone doing this to a person?
pavnvet
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:34amWhen you wake each morning in a war zone and realize that the 12 year old that is begging for food or the young man in rags may be your executioner, it can dehumanize the strongest of men.
We don’t know the background of this incident or the mental status of the participants. Our troops are under incredible pressure with restricted rules of engagement, poor intel, and a lack of leadership from a Commander in Chief that the majority (of the military) do not support.
This is a war and every man and woman serving have given a blank check to the citizens of this country for an amount up to and including their life. Judge not unless you have walked in their boots.
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:03amYou insult everyone who has ever served with any honor at all.
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:27amFeralcat, and that is probably a very apt description..
I served in Vietnam and may I ask where you served?
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:12pmNorth of DaNang.
Report Post »free2bme1961
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:30amWhile I commend this corporal for coming forth with what he has witnessed, it most likely will continue to be an issue in our armed forces. Consider the fact, that many who join our military, do so upon the advice of those who hope to see them gain self-discipline, as they may have had troubled unguided lives thus far…which would include, but not limited to, unresolved anger issues. There are many in our armed forces in “high” places, that do enforce a mob mentality amongst their own commrades…and this issue is rarely spoken of. Despite the fact, that some may feel, that it is “acceptable” to inflict unneccesary rage upon innocent people, regardless of their race, sex; or because they happen to be in the wrong place at an unfortunate time, does not make this okay! When a leader loses sight of what is right and what is wrong, it is time for an evaluation, of such an unstable mind….does this sound familiar?
Report Post »CapitalistforGod
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:26amThere is NO such thing as an innocent Muslim, and anyone who says there is has no idea what Islam stands for! “And there I saw a pale horse and it’s riders name was death and hell followed closely and had power over a forth part of the earth to kill with the sword” we must stop the Obamanation!
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:25amlet God sort it out. In the meantime take them all out. harsh, harsh
Report Post »carrera
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:22amWhy on earth did the Obama Administration release this video?
Report Post »AMERICANCITIZEN
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:15amMy opinion is we should fight to win. We have pussyfooted around.
Report Post »This is on Bush, his big mistake was caring about what people think.
War is ugly, Get over it, we are not trying to help them We are letting them know if you harbor terrorist and we get attacked (911 or Pearl Harbor) you are going to pay!
World War 2, Truman had to make a choice, Go into Japan and loose alot of American Lives (Because of how Japan is layed out , strategically.) Or drop the Atomic Bomb.
Bush should have rocked the Middle East at the beginning, that includes nukes or atomic.
If we are going continue with Bush strategy/Obama strategy then we need to bring our Men/Women home, we are wasting lives.
DrEvo82
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:10amSounds a little sketchy to me. I read in the story on another site that the guy in charge told them to shoot these people at the same time he threw a hand grenade at them. When a grenade explodes it throws quite a bit of shrapnel. You definitely don’t want to be standing in the open. Just a thought.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:00amWho at ABC released this VIDEO and WHY? Has the soldier had a trial yet? There is some hidden message here from the Obama administration. They have CONTROL over what is released to the media! The US army doubled its use of “moral waivers” for enlisted soldiers allowing convicted sex offenders, people convicted of making terrorist threats and child abusers into the military. They give U.S. citizenship to any illegal alien who does two years of military service. What kind of military force are they creating? Anything to get the bodies over to Afghanistan, I guess! It’s a shame and an embarrassment to all good soldiers.
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:55amI don’t give a rip about the afgans or the iraqis. We will never end this. This is not war. If it were we would end it. Instead we try to kill with kindness. What a load of crap. Let the killing begin. Or get the hell away from them.
Report Post »jcatlanta
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:46amIf this is true the military should take the appropriate steps; however, by trying them in the world media, it only puts our boys overseas at severe risk. Look what these people did when they thought the coran (sic) was going to be burned. (To me it is not a holy book to be spelled correctly or capitalized. It is a counterfit by satan of the truth.)
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:34amUnfortunately, all these Afghan monkeys understand is sheer, brute, ruthless force. They mock compassion, restraint and one-sided agreements like the Geneva Convention as clear signs of weakness. Although it goes against our morality and laws as Americans, these types of brutal acts are what is probably necessary to win this war against radical Islam. Sadly, we are not willing to do what is necessary to win this war.
Report Post »neubienose
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 5:56pmA. You are a racist. B. We are better then them so we dont fight like them. maybe bush shouldn’t have lied about the war, then screwed up after “mission accomplished”.
Report Post »arx
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 7:03pmNeubienose: while I don’t agree with kill em all and let God sort em out…
A. Anyone who still says “bush lied” is a complete buffoon. Look up how many of your liberal democratic politicians were saying the exact same thing about WMD and Saddam HUSSEIN, which were the Bush’s justifications for the war. It was only after we invaded that the chant “bush lied” was started by the traitorous hypocrite liberals, made only for political gain at the expense of our efforts over there.
B. Screwed up after mission accomplished? What are you referring to? Too many CNN stories about how bad the war was going? All of which was only a manifestation of the MSM “attack the war, attack the president” policy. And I have news for you little buddy, most plans go out the window when the bullets start flying. There were no screwups beyond that which is common to any war. So please just close your piehole about things you know nothing about.
C. We are better than them so we don’t fight like them? Who is the racist here? And what do you know about how to fight an enemy that will not negotiate, and wants nothing but your death or conversion? Of course, maybe you just don’t take your faith seriously, and wouldn’t mind bowing towards the east three times a day. I‘m sure you’ll miss your CNN though…
Report Post »jazman1960
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 7:38pmI dont see how that was rasicist it is the truth. Read up on it. That is all they respect. They beileve we are a paper tiger that they can wait out and we will quit because we loose soldiers. Also each objective is a mission. That mission was over and accomplished we did capture Sadam. That was one of many missions of the war. Just like there are many battles in a war there are many missions.
Report Post »neubienose
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 7:44pmHey ARX
A
I agree a lot of people lied, liberals are to blame also they were only worried about being elected-
, but bush was president.
Dont assume what my party is. obama is doing many of the same things bush is
you know expanding govt, shipping jobs overseas, making the rich richer.
B. Dude, assumptions again, I am not little, and I am not your buddy.
Check to the facts of how bush, cheney, rumsfield handled the post war efforts, macho man.
I not talking about bullets, I am talking about not enough men, not enough armor. You need to 3 times an army to rebuild a country after the initial “victory”. so calm down. oh, yeah check out
this documentry “No End in Sight” .Of course you won’t, Glenns book club didnt recomment that one.
C. Since when is comparing american values to other countries values racist?? I was talking about freedom for all, everyone created equal, moral values like torture bad, understanding good.
You said the “enemy” wants nothing but your death or conversion. But isn’t your solution death or conversion at this point?
Since I am a well armed libertarian I will not be made to bow by anyone, religious right included.
And since you are dying to know. I watch FOX a lot, MSNBC, a lot of channels you never heard of
Report Post »but TEEVEE is what it is. A PRODUCT TO SELL YOU STUFF. go read a book, you know one
Glen doesnt recommend.
and make some more assumptions, the last incumbent I voted for was duke cunningham and we know how that turned out. Try something different, vote L on the ballot throw both parties out.
neubienose
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:31pmjazman1960
Report Post »afghan monkeys, thats not racist? okayyyyyyyy Besides I will bet they have a lot of people over there that really dont care much killing us, they basically are trying to live. Broad brushes cause racism.
get it. The war was wrong. We armed Saddam-both parties.
arx
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:38pmnoobnose:
Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said or agreed that anyone “lied”. Intelligence mistakes regarding WMD were made. However, weapons could have been moved prior to our invasion and at this point there is no proof either way whether they existed in Iraq or not. The point is that everyone, with the liberals right out in front, were saying they existed in Iraq and were calling for heads to roll in the immediate aftermath of 9-11.
Bush did not lie. He made a decision based on the intelligence he had, and most of the country was behind him at the time. And then what happened? The democrats made a calculated decision to politicize the war, because they couldn’t stand to see a popular wartime republican president. THEY lied over and over again, along with the MSM, about how all the intelligence was falsified, Bush made it all up, yada yada yada. Meanwhile our boys are over there getting shot up, while scumsucking traitorous pigs like Kennedy, Murtha, Clintons, Schumer and all the rest denegrated the war and our country’s efforts at every opportunity. So please spare me the “they were only worried about being elected” justification. There are no justifications for traitors. None. You’re attempt to justify such dispicable behavior says volumes about your patriotism. Anyone who has served and loves their country despise those who weaken it. Stick that in your craw and suck on it.
I’ll concede that Bush was not anywhere near the conservative I would have like him to be on fiscal policy. But get off the talking points…shipping jobs overseas? Huh? Companies exist to make money. Jobs go overseas when the burden of taxes and regulations in our country force them to do so. And they can’t be blamed for it. Are you a union member? You sound like one. And as far as “making the rich richer”…what in the heck is wrong with that, and you people who think that there is? Do you have a problem with success? Are you a socialist? Like to spread the wealth around? Pathetic. And you call yourself a libertarian? Sure.
“Check out the facts about the post war…” Give me a break. What facts? Those presented by your CNN? What would you or any of your liberal buddies (really sorry I’m not yours) in the media know about re-building an Islamic nation in the heart of the middle east? All we heard for years and years is “it’s failing”…” it can’t work” … “the surge will not succeed” (Obama) ” yada yada. Mistakes were made. Duh. Do you suppose you could have done better? But where are we now little…guy? Bush succeeded. Funny I don’t hear any mea culpas coming from Obama (or any of the other traitors) about being wrong about the war. I just hear his VP actually trying to claim credit for the war they did everything they could to lose…disgusting. But hey!…nasal tone…They’re just trying to get re-elected!
No. My solution is not death or conversion, as Islam wants. My solution is those people stay the heck out of my country, and I stay out of theirs. Islam and western society are not compatible.
Point of fact…as I‘ve never looked at what books Glenn recommends I can’t say that I’ve ever read one on his list. You were saying about assumptions….
Report Post »neubienose
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 3:12pmARX those are talking points-I replied on page 2 read if your are man enough
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:33amLt. Calley, and My Lai another world away and 40+ years later. Sad.
Report Post »adifftake
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:24amIf true, they should be tried in front of the world and swift and deadly justice meeted out to them. This makes them no better than SS officers and they should be publicly executed.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:23amThese soldiers are the reflection of their leadership team.
Report Post »KEA
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:47amAgreed, but dont forget that Leader Ship team stops with the President.
Report Post »plunderpower
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:14pmDuring the Vietnam War women would run up to a soldier, hand him her baby, and run. After the grenade exploded, the damage was done to her innocent baby, our troops, and bystanders. During the day, innocent villagers harvested their rice. At other times, these same villagers emptied their weapons cache hidden underground and attacked our troops. The War in the MIddle East is another one of those conflicts where you can‘t tell exactly who the enemy is because they don’t wear a uniform and they hide among other people. I do not believe this is a legitimate military interrogation. It isn’t like the military to release things like this on TV networks. AND Liberal ABC would love to crucify more soldiers. Ft. Leavenworth is full of them, and we need to stop this crap.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:20amSome context here would be good. Had the guy they killed just murdered or set up one of their buddies? That would certainly change the context in my mind. Was the guy considered a future threat to the safety of soldiers on the ground? This is war. War is ugly. Despite that, I’m surprised that the government would allow publication of a video like this, which is clearly damaging to our national security but burn a book that contains already known information for the same reason.
See this video to learn how the US burned books over the weekend for “national security” reasons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0qgjxJyRA
Is our government telling us that this video will not put lives at risk? But that a book will? Disgusting.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:15amIf this guy is telling the truth, I am horrified. On the one hand, if we don’t put down the jihadists in their own countries, I firmly believe they will bring it here. On the other hand, this simply cannot be condoned. We do have a legal system within our armed forces to handle this, and this should be handled with all due haste and, if true, severity.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:14am1, it is war. we are at war with people who would saw our children’s heads off. THIS American family would have preferred another way: right after 9/11 we should have just NUKED the entire Middle East. kill ‘em all and let allah sort them out.
2., just like obama’s Left to air this, it is just more to turn America AND THE WORLD against the US’s entire military—– obama wants our millitary brought to its knees, to fail. this is how he goes about it. obama wants America to be subjugated, epriod.
Report Post »DaddyKev
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:30amCome on man, nuke the entire Middle East and kill innocent people? Think about that you heartless idiot.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:37am@DaddyKev Burnthills’ idea is not as radical as you might think. It is painful to think about innocent people dying in war, but the truth is, wars are only won when the civilian population in a country feels enough pain that they actually choose the attacking country‘s protection over their own country’s. The last war we won was arguably WWII, when we burned entire cities to the ground. Surgical strikes on a nation’s military will not win a war. Neither will prolonged occupations.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:41amSorry, replied to the wrong thread.
Report Post »DADDYKEV, No, don’t nuke the entire Middle East, just Mecca….to start with. And no innocents would need to be killed. We could give 24 hours advanced warning. Then anyone left in the city when the warhead detonates is, by definition, guilty.
DaddyKev
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 3:13pmGuys, okay I’ll play along. What happens in the days and weeks after our nuclear weapon goes off like you say? Does it trigger a response from other counties, etc.? My philosophy on the Middle East problem is for us to be energy independent (which is going to be difficult) then leave the Middle East to themselves and let them solve their own problems, kill each other, or live peacfully, whatever.
Report Post »neubienose
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 5:58pmmighty christian of you.
Redd
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:13amGang members are in the military, never read about it.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:39amDADDYKEV, No, don’t nuke the entire Middle East, just Mecca….to start with. And no innocents would need to be killed. We could give 24 hours advanced warning. Then anyone left in the city when the warhead detonates is, by definition, guilty.
Report Post »klevalt
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:08amThis is so disgusting! I am saddened that these A$$3$ are in the same military that my sons served in with honor and integrity. I know that there are bad seeds in every crop… Police, Wall Street Executives, Babysitters…. I don’t understand the mentality.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:15amthe obama White House..
Report Post »duncan
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:47amEven in a war you need moral integrity. I was in Vietnam and would never have shot innocent or unarmed people for any reason. I would refuse a direct and command from an officer and take a court trial rather than to be a Lt. Calle and suffer the consequences of knowing I had killed an innocent person. War is not a license to kill everyone because you deem them a threat. Please don’t tell me about being caught up “In the Moment”. That argument doe’s not fly.
Report Post »FeralCat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:56amNot that many are aware of it but Colin Powell played a major role in trying to cover up Mia Lia. Got promoted afterward to.
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:55amI am not condoning the execution of civilians.
Duncan, I don’t know where or when you served or what your MOS was in Vietnam. However, as combat infantry with the First Air Cav, I could tell you of dozens of atrocities at the hands of the VC and NVA. Many atrocities were committed on civilians and others to our own troops. How many Americans did you see bleeding out because their genitals were cut off? The rage and frustration builds.
You can not state what you would have or would have not done, unless you were there and had the same experiences.
These men will be properly brought up on charges. Once the all the facts come out, then judge this young serviceman. Instead of condemning him, pray for him.
Remember the 7 Marines that were accused of killing civilians in Iraq? Not one of them was found guilty.
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