US and South Korea Push Ahead With War Games
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YEONPYEONG ISLAND, South Korea (AP) — The United States and South Korea began joint war games Sunday, as South Koreans demanded vengeance over a deadly North Korean artillery bombardment that has raised fears of more clashes between the bitter rivals.
The North, meanwhile, worked to justify one of the worst attacks on South Korean territory since the 1950-53 Korean War. Four South Koreans, including two civilians, died after the North rained artillery on the small Yellow Sea island of Yeonpyeong, which is home to both fishing communities and military bases.
North Korea said civilians were used as a “human shield” around artillery positions and lashed out at what it called a “propaganda campaign” against Pyongyang.
It claimed the United States orchestrated last Tuesday’s clash so that it could stage joint naval exercises in the Yellow Sea with the South that include a U.S. nuclear powered supercarrier — enraging the North and making neighboring China uneasy.
China sent a senior official, State Councilor Dai Bingguo, to Seoul on Saturday for talks with Foreign Minister Kim Sung-hwan, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency reported. Dai, accompanied by chief Chinese nuclear negotiator Wu Dawei, discussed Tuesday‘s attack and international talks on ending North Korea’s nuclear programs, it said.
The North Korean attack on an area with a civilian population marked a new level of hostility along the rivals’ disputed sea border. Only eight months ago, according to the findings of a South Korean-led international investigation, a North Korean torpedo sank a South Korean warship in waters farther west, killing 46 sailors.
The aggression could be linked to the North’s attempt to strengthen its government as it pursues a delicate transfer of power from leader Kim Jong Il to a young, unproven son. It also may reflect Pyongyang’s frustration that it has been unable to force a resumption of stalled international talks on receiving aid in return for nuclear disarmament.
The attack laid bare weaknesses 60 years after the Korean War in South Korea’s defenses against the North, which does not recognize the border drawn by the U.N. at the close of the conflict and which considers waters around Yeonpyeong as its territory.
The skirmish prompted President Lee Myung-bak to replace his defense minister on Friday.
At a funeral Saturday near Seoul, South Korea’s marine commander, Maj. Gen. You Nak-jun, vowed a “thousand-fold” retaliation for the attack. Dignitaries and relatives laid white flowers at an altar for the two marines killed. The mother of one of the victims fell forward in her chair in grief.
Passers-by paused at Seoul’s main train station to watch funeral footage on a big screen.
“Once the enemy attacks us, it is our duty to respond even more strongly,” said student Jeon Hyun-soo, 19. “The South Korean people want this.”
Elsewhere in Seoul, about 70 former special forces troops protested what they called the government’s weak response and scuffled with riot police in front of the Defense Ministry, pummeling the riot troops’ helmets with wooden stakes and spraying fire extinguishers.
North Korea’s state news agency said that although “it is very regrettable, if it is true, that civilian casualties occurred on Yeonpyeong island, its responsibility lies in enemies‘ inhumane action of creating a ’human shield’ by deploying civilians around artillery positions.”
The North said its enemies are “now working hard to dramatize ‘civilian casualties’ as part of its propaganda campaign.”
South Korea was conducting artillery drills Tuesday from the island, located just 7 miles (11 kilometers) from North Korea’s mainland, but fired away from the mainland.
The North said it warned South Korea to halt the drills on the morning of the attack, as part of “superhuman efforts to prevent the clash to the last moment.”
The North said that Sunday’s planned U.S.-South Korean war games showed that the United States was “the arch criminal who deliberately planned the incident and wire-pulled it behind the scene.”
The war games, which involve the USS George Washington supercarrier, display resolve by Korean War allies Washington and Seoul to respond strongly to any future North Korean aggression. However, Washington has insisted the drills are routine and were planned well before last Tuesday’s attack.
The drills kicked off Sunday morning when ships from both countries entered the exercise zone, an official with South Korea’s joint chiefs of staff said on condition of anonymity, citing office rules.
David Oten, a spokesman for the U.S. military in South Korea, said U.S. ships were still steaming toward the area and the drills would not officially begin until later in the day.
North Korea on Saturday warned of retaliatory attacks creating a “sea of fire” if its territory is violated.
The South Korean president told top officials “there is a possibility North Korea may take provocative actions during the (joint) exercise,” and urged them to coordinate with U.S. forces to counter any such move, according to a spokesman in the president’s office who spoke on condition of anonymity, citing official protocol.
Washington and Seoul have pressed China to use its influence on Pyongyang to ease tensions. China is impoverished North Korea’s biggest benefactor and its only major ally.
On Friday, the North conducted an apparent artillery drill within sight of Yeonpyeong island. The warning to Seoul and Washington came as the top U.S. commander in South Korea toured Yeonpyeong island to survey the wreckage from the rain of artillery three days earlier.
The North’s artillery barrage Tuesday destroyed civilian homes as well as military bases on Yeonpyeong Island.
Lee has ordered reinforcements for the 4,000 troops on Yeonpyeong and four other Yellow Sea islands, as well as top-level weaponry and upgraded rules of engagement.
Most of the islanders fled to the mainland after the barrage set off fierce blazes that destroyed many of their communities. It will take six months to two years for island communities to rebuild, disaster relief official Kim Sang-ryul said.
Soldiers assembled toilets Saturday for temporary shelters being built on the island by teams of relief workers.
Some South Koreans criticized the government for leaving Yeonpyeong inadequately protected.
“Military-wise, the emergency facilities should have been prepared for something like this, so I think the South Korean military must reinforce them,” said Kim Min-yang, a 27-year-old company employee. “I also think we need more dialogue with North Korea.”
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Kim Kwang-tae reported from Seoul. AP writers Ian Mader, Foster Klug, Hyung-jin Kim and Kelly Olsen in Seoul, Christopher Bodeen in Beijing and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.
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Comments (101)
ChiroRef
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:33amI know it is off-topic, but I truly wish there had been some follow-up on that launch/contrail controversy from earlier in the month. If it was, indeed, a Chinese missile launch, with no response, the NorKs can be assured they will do whatever they want and we most certainly will capitulate.
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 11:00amThey calculated that if that was a missile, it had to be at launched at least 35 miles out to sea. And it wasn’t toward the coast. IE. no violation of any treaty occurred. Heck, they couldn’t even agree on what it was. Makes it kinda hard to blame China even if this is what China was trying to do, which is provoked.
Report Post »prickett_smiles
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:30amWars…..And rumors of wars……..Hello people are you ready?
Report Post »LEGION
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:36amThis weak president is inviting war. I fear for our country, nay, the world. It is coming!
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:59amIve said it before and i will say it again this is how country’s usually cancel their debt .but i know a young marine sniper on his way over there and if it has to happen i hope his hand is steady and his aim is true he knows the risk God bless em all they know and they join anyway.some serve some serve themselves.
Report Post »silveracer44
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:19am@Scout n ambush – OpSec, please.
Report Post »smamere
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:36amI wonder if Hilary has a voice in this. I have a feeling she is the kick butt component of the administration, if indeed there is one.
Report Post »Obama is so far over his head. What the heck was 53% of the electorate thinking in November of 2008?
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:01amHillary is standing aside to let Mr Obama destroy himself.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:00amI was hoping Hillary would be a “kick but component” of this administration, but sadly, she has failed too.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:07amThey were thinking were hip were cool this is a historic election we are smarter than our parents and all other old people .Not the issues or party platform could they even describe. When they explain it to their kids someday they will blame it on booze and or pot.
Report Post »New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:50am53% of the electorate are the Limp wristed libs,and the cattle that Vote Race. And the FAKE registered ACORN registrants. Remember some registered 3-10 times by their own admission.
Report Post »And 50% of that 53% should be Human shields should we have a real War.Count the 20% Socialists.
Brooke Lorren
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:31amIf you haven’t already, it‘s time to pray and get on God’s side. If you‘re already on God’s side, pray some more. Pray without ceasing… that’s what the Bible says.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 11:55amYes Brooke, pray as in Matthew 6:9-14. It says in part; “Our Father in the heavens, let your name (Jehovah) be sanctified. 6:10; Let your kingdom come (the only hope for mankind). let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon the earth.”
Until this comes to pass, we will continue to hear of wars and reports of wars. Matthew 24:1-14
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:58amNorth Korea will not start something, if they know what is good for them. They’re proud of their goose stepping, missile parading, shows of 1960′s highly equipped arsenal. I’d say about a non stop 3 days of cruise missile, air sorties with smart bombs, and several super bunker buster surgical strikes to turn their uranium enriching centrifuges into scrap metal, followed by a ground occupation by the troops stationed (U.S. and South Korean) and some special forces and navy seals to penetrate the “Beloved Leader and 5 star General Leader Jr’s place of cowardly hiding, drag them out into the square in the sight of all the repressed people of Beloved Leader& Son and put a bullet in each of their heads right behind their left ear and make an announcement in Korean that there is going to be a huge party, compliments of the U.S.S. George Washington and staff. Then start handing out food, water, and leaflets proclaiming liberty has come to North Korea. That’s what I hope happens!
Report Post »silveracer44
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:13amSo you want our troops to occupy another country and subject them to more insurgency? I for one care about our troops and want them home.
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:53amThere won’t be no insurgency if they see that cruel little imp that has oppressed them for years with a totalitarian ruthlessness laying dead in the streets of North Korea. China won’t have to feed them much longer, either, with the “Shrimp dictator” eliminated. That country would be thriving inside of 6 months if we stick to destroying the Military Industrial Complex and not the civilian areas.
Report Post »silveracer44
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:16amReally? Well we need to hurry up and kill Saddam so the insurgency in Iraq will go away. Wait a minute…Oh and China wouldn’t feed them, you’re right. So really, no one’s better off if we get involved in a war on the peninsula.
Report Post »spurjimmy
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 9:28amDo you honestly think China would allow a US invasion of NK? It‘s China’s back yard! All US forces would be crushed in days by the Human Wave of North Korean and Chinese slave warriors sent before the real army of China took over both Koreas. That would expand China’s industrial, geographic and military position. I say, once again, it’s time for the US to circle the wagons and protect our own country. The world is about to ignite and our troops in all these distant regions are at risk.
Report Post »kermitthetoad
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:48amBush Jr. finished what his father intentionally left unfinished. This thing with the Norks looks like another fine opportunity to tie up some loose ends.
Report Post »KCPatriot
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:48amIt is very distressing to see this as it could escalate due to misjudgments by the new inexperienced NK leader as well as the tensions already running high with the South populace calling for retribution. North Korea unilaterally renounced and ceased following the Korean War cease fire armistice May 27, 2009. This Radio Free Europe article http://www.rferl.org/Content/The_End_Of_The_Korean_War_Cease_Fire/1747745.html is a must read on aspects of this cease fire and on who fought and on which side. It is interesting that the “North” was supported by “Chinese volunteers” while the South was supported by the U.N. under which the U.S. fought. The North was basically a militant band attempting an overthrow of Korea. South Korea then refused to sign any armistice because it would recognize an illegitimate rogue group forming a government that it wanted removed and it wanted the country reunified under its command. So when they say the North has violated the armistice, it is hollow words because the North was illegitimate and the South never signed the armistice. Plus the North unilaterally renounced that armistice in 2009 over a year ago. So now we have North Korea 50 plus years later that has become a nuclear powered dictatorship and now has a defense treaty with China, who is its main supplier of food and goods. The North has maybe nearly a couple hundred thousand troops and tens of thousands of artillery and thousands of missiles pointed at the South along with a few nukes. I suspect from the news stories, that the North has the ability to reach part of the U.S. with a few missiles, although not much of the U.S. and probably not with nukes. The North is reported to have a lot of chemical and bio weapons. The South has more modern forces and probably four times the fire power, aside from not having nukes. The U.S. continues to have nukes, just not based in the South. The U.S. continues to have a DMZ trip wire of tens of thousands of troops in South Korea. South Korea represents a large trading partner for the U.S. and a democratic partner in the region. China is a key to this as it is their trading partner and defense treaty that becomes of concern to them and to the rest of us. The South is a key to U.S. – a linch pin of freedom just in front of Japan.
Report Post »I am for real
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:47amRevelation 9:16. kjv
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:25amThanks for the non-applicable scripture. We’ll tuck it away for when we are actually that far along in the prophecy, though. BTW, the 200 Million Horsemen will be advancing on Israel from the Northern Gog and Magog. (Iran, Russia, and Turkey) FYI See Ezekiel 38, they are not Korean.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:41amSo this would be the kings of the east.
Report Post »Pucci
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:38amIn Europe our presense propped up socialist/ communist governments for years. They had little or no need to develop defenses because we are there. We essentiallly financed socialism. What are propping up in Asia? I know it was originally to stop the spread of communism- but come on…. We are faceing that here in our own streets! GTFO! If ever a single hair of a single American is EVER harmed by one of these despots send down a wrath of biblical porportions like none other- but until then it’s time to come home.
Report Post »Rev. WC
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:39amI’m with you! The Korea thing is to hide this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUoRYkpLarA
Report Post »GoingBeck
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:37amThis is bad folks. Obama and his North Korean allies have created the great international crisis that is too good to waste.
Report Post »Tyr
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:30amWe have had two or three exercises a year with the South Koreans for the last 40 years! “Team Spirit” & “Ulchi Focus Lens” come to mind, plus numerous minor training exercises with the ROK Marines, Army and Airforce. Our two Navies work together almost everyday. What is the big deal now? Maybe if some of our snivelling media had ever served in the military they would already know this is normal. The money is already spent for the exercise, we sure are not going to cancel it because the shovelheads in the north are banging on their war drums and blowing their bugles.
Report Post »The South Koreans have a slogan that goes something like “We aren’t afraid of the North Koreans, it’s the two billion Chinese right behind them that worries us”.
Hefsmaster
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:58amYou were doing great right up until you quoted the s. koreans. That pesky china problem. Who won’t deal with their puppet and is standing between us and them. China has obviously taken the stance that the forty years of war games you also quoted may be just that. Between that and our beloved leader barack “smashmouth” obama. Who is always a day late and a dollar short. Confidence in the situation is not good.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:09amThank you, well said. Our troops in SK also have a saying: “Ready to fight tonight!”
Report Post »I am for real
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:25amwar and games don’t go together.
Report Post »New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:13amMake the North Back-Down. Show China they still have lots to lose if they Back NC. Sounds like NC is already shakey if they’re looking to jutify. Push them as far as possible.
Report Post »teahugger
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:10amObama could use a good crisis right about now…and he sure as shootin‘ wouldn’t let it go to waste!
Report Post »felina g
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:07amNothing EVER happens by mistake. Who profits ?
Report Post »Richlove1
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:07amWhy shouldn’t the nuts in the north try this? No matter what they do, they win concessions from us. More food and supplies, more time to build their nukes. China and Russia don’t stop the NK loons and always caution us against retaliation. There’s concern that the nutjobs might sell nukes to terrorism sponsors like Syria, or terror groups themselves. If the responsibility for keeping those evil psychos in check is left up to us, tell the world that sanctions will be adhered to or the reactors will be wiped from the face of the earth, like the Israelis did with Saddam Insane’s reactor (and like they should do with Achminiwhackjob’s reactors).
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 4:05amWell said. Kim Jong-il has nothing to lose. The man is on his proverbial deathbed. He has shown that he does not care about his own people, and sure as hell doesn’t care about the rest of the world. “Suicide By Cop” – with the U.S. being the cop. Either way he gets what he wants. Infamy
Report Post »FrankSpeak
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:04amThis could become WW3. The asian communists realize they have an ally in the White House, or in the very least a weak adversary.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:58amNo, the asian communists realize there is a dragon capable of stopping the Americans if we strike and they (China) decides to intervein.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:03amwatch the other hand……………….this is a staged crisis to allow the child in chief to regain support, and to deal with north korea at the same time. this is how politicians think. this is intentional, and we will be the ones paying the price of blood , and tyranny as oblamo will use this to woo support for 2012. do not give him the satisfaction of playing us like puppets.
Report Post »felina g
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:27amExactly !!! You got it !
Report Post »American_Woman
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:58amI may be way off here, but I still think that missile off our west coast was from one of China’s newly purchased submarines. Perhaps the US and China are positioning strongholds (North and South Korea) for an upcoming war. Turning China into our enemy would be one way for Puppet Obama to completely destroy our economy (being that we owe China so much money).
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:12amWith BO is office you might be right. That is the problem with him, what does he stand for? Another aspect to consider with OB running things, OB knows he needs upheaval to make a move on real power. Commies don’t get voted in & true power comes at the end of a gun barrel. OB and his commie friends truly think we are stupid; we should bow to their superior intellect. All you have to do is read what some of OB’s commie friends write on this blog to know this. What do they tell us? Get out of the way. Get to the back of the bus. Let them do the driving. And then throw the race card over and over.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:15amThe first war in Korea was North Korea and China vs. South Korea and USA.
Report Post »Once again we will see it. North Korea never accepted defeat the first time around, and in fact was not defeated. It ended becuse of peace talks and drawing a line across that country to divide it. North wanted it all then and wants it all now.
But this time, how about we go in to win. What was the last war or conflict we had that we went to win? Last one was WWII. None since then have we fought to win.
CaptnJackBthe1
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:40amDo you mean that Hawaii to Phoenix US Air flight/missile on Nov 9Th? I can’t believe how so many people can be misled by such an ignorant media.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:54amI’m afraid this time there will be an escalation that leads to all out war. Let‘s all pray that I’m wrong.
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Report Post »Tyr
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 1:44amGranpa always said, “if you want war and higher taxes vote Republican, if you want higher taxes and war vote Democrat.” He lived through two world wars and the depression. He was born the year the Wright brothers flew and lived to see the SST and a man on the moon. He saw the world go from horses and buggies to automobiles. He witnessed the electrification of all of the United States. Nationwide telephone service and the invention of T.V.
Report Post »I for one trust anything the man said!
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:51am@Tyr
My gramps was born in 1902 and served in the Second World War; Pacific Theater in the Marines, was one for years before it all began and traveled the West Pacific extensively. Strenght they do indeed respect, and right now with Mr Obama in the White House, they have no respect at all based on their perceptions of us.
I pray war does not come, yet like you with your grandfather, he gave sound and hard won advice and I also will listen to it.
Report Post »Conserving Ink
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:49amEastern cultures respect strength,it would have been a sign of weakness to do anything else.
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Kimberli
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:45amPlease Lord keep them safe.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 10:00ampretty difficult to ask the LORD to help us when we’ve done nothing but throw him out and spit in his face.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 11:36amThree interesting scripture’s here if we want to learn something.
They indicate who is actually ruling, and is the one pulling the strings of all the nations on this earth. Can we identify this “ruler?”
When the human family reject our Creator in favor of their own ambitions, Satan comes in to fill the void and assumes the position of the “controller”
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 11:39amOh my, I forgot to add the scriptures; John 12:31, 14:30, and 16:11
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:45amThe US will do nothing .
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:44amIt will only take one action from the nutjob leaders of the North to ignite a second korean war; and from there the dangers of escalation into a regional Pacific war are high, except that Mr Obama is most likely just to declare an unconditional surrender of our troops to the North.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
silveracer44
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:02amNo he won’t. That‘s like saying he’ll pull troops out of Iraq “immediately,“ then in ”16 months,“ then in ”23 months,” then…well…He should bring our troops home from Korea. It makes sense. But he won’t.
Report Post »Leetron
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:53amHey, Super…first of all, there was respect shown Obama by addressing him as “Mr. Obama.” The fact that some (actually most of the population of the US – around 55-60% by the most recent polls) do not support or respect Obama as their leader is due to his constant apologizing to the world’s despots, his arrogance, his tax and spend policies, his attempt(s) to redistribute wealth to those who do not/will not work, his takeover of businesses, his takeover of the nation’s healthcare system and all his other Socio-Communist beliefs that we, the people of the United States do not support. And second, the fact he does not support our military and truly recognize the fact we must confront our enemies and defend our allies speaks for itself. Get over yourself, Super…we made a terrible mistake in 2009 – but fortunately it’s one we can correct in 2012.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 2:56am@SUPER *****
POTUS is indeed the Position he holds, and I have lost respect for the man himself based upon his actions to turn our country into a socialist country dominated by a handful of elitest Progressives. So that is the reason I choose to refer to him as Mr Obama.
The reason I fear he would just surrender our troops to the North is simple, he holds nothing but total contempt for the nation and her people. He has lied about pulling out all of our troops from Iraq – many are still there, and extended the pullout timeline from Afghanistan itself. So if his word to those soldiers fighting and dying is worthless, why should I expect anything less than him surrendering all to the enemy and doing another world apology tour for the ‘American aggression’ that took place.
silveracer44
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:03am@Snowleopard3200 – That’s the whole point of what I said. He hasn‘t held to his promises of being the peace candidate and so he won’t surrender our troops. He’ll send them to die without blinking.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 3:21am@Silveracer44
Apologies for the misunderstanding on my part. I have been told by my father, a Korean War survivor of the horrors done to our soldiers taken by the North in the Korean War; and to me, the effect would be the same, they get slaughtered in the end. To this day, my dad lives with the nightmares and will look at a picture of his company taken two weeks before shipping over.
Of the 122 men, only 23 survived a single night long engagement. The way he explained of his friends being butchered piece by piece are chilling indeed.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 5:02amYou must earn respect. All he did was get elected. Saying I have to respect the man because he is President is idiotic at best. He is a Marxist revolutionary that fooled over half the nation. Give me one reason that I should ever respect a man who would want to destroy my country!
Give hi respect? Hell no!
Report Post »Rev. WC
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 6:50amThis is larger than Korea..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUoRYkpLarA
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:09amI will and always have respected the OFFICE of the president of the United States. BUT NOT THE MAN IN THAT OFFICE!
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 8:15amMy son IS there *****… He is PROUDLY serving on the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON, And claims are based on past actions by this know nothing arrogant POS!!!
Report Post »psst
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 10:28am@ Super.
Report Post »You have the right to speak for yourself. But not for me.
Hussein the marxist Moslem may be “Your” president.
But he’s not mine.
There!! I just spoke for myself.
Isn’t this country great. We can {still all speak for ourselves. For how much longer is anyone’s guess.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 28, 2010 at 12:27pm@SUPER *****
Excuse me? Any of us can address Obama any way we wish. Secondly, he’s not our “leader”, he’s our public servant. Free men and women don’t need “leaders” in government, never have and never will.
I do agree that we do not need another military action (notice I didn’t say “war”, we haven’t been at war since 1945).
Report Post »keithh1981
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 6:49amSuper, until Obama finally shows proof that he is was actually born in the US and not Kenya, then America will not treat him as a president of the US. I do not think he was even born in the US. Why does he get so defiant about that question, why doesn’t he show any proof that he was born here? He should have the papers. It is funny there is more proof of him being born in Kenya than the US, which means he is Muslim and explains why he is pro muslim and anti-America, because he sure isn’t helping us out much. Obama, is an embarrassment and I am a shamed our secret service men have to protect a liar and NON-American.
Why doesn’t he show proof? It only takes what 30 seconds before they have it scanned and all over the news as proof yet he gets so defiant it is joke. We can boot him out of office now if we find out he lied to become president. His own step-mother is not even an American and he is abusing his power to help her stay in America.
I think it is time for America as a whole to stand up and demand him showing prove or him resigning/impeached immediately and thrown out of this country, and make sure they take his America hating wife with him, still haven’t forgiven her for her anti-American remarks back when Obama was campaigning.
If it smells like a rat, talks like a rat, weasels into office like a rat, most likely he is a Kenya rat.
Report Post »rightminded
Posted on November 29, 2010 at 8:21am@SUPER *****
There are you happy I used your whole name? First respect is earned if demanded he will not get any from the American people. How is he what you call the so called President going to earn respect from anyone when he says sorry for everything the country has ever done. The President is a leader Obama is not a leader. In fact I don’t think he could lead a class of 5th graders.
As far as President Bush he didn’t back down for anything, in fact he stood up for our country and took action. He never promised to pull the troops out like Obama did. One of the reasons for his election “Change” remember. Except it’s not the change the American people were looking for the reason for his declining poll numbers.
As far as sending my son/daughter this time my son spent two tours in Iraq this last time fighting for your freedom. You do realize that freedom has a price right? That is what we have went to war over for years. Take a look at history what our military died for so you can sit here on this blog and complain because someone doesn’t call Obama President. Get real man the country has turned into a left wing complaining dump. Maybe we can save it maybe we can’t we can just pray it gets resolved quickly.