US Intel Chief: Iran Ready to Strike America In Terror Attacks
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The U.S. intelligence community believes that Iran is prepared to launch terrorist attacks inside the United States in response to perceived threats from America and its allies, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Tuesday morning in an open hearing.
In prepared testimony given to the U.S. Select Committee on Intelligence, Clapper stated than an alleged Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador to the United States shows a shift in Tehran’s strategy towards a willingness to plot and conduct attacks within the U.S.
Director Clapper said, according to the Washington Post, that Iran’s disrupted alleged assassination plot:
“shows that some Iranian officials — probably including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei — have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime.”
Clapper added that “We are also concerned about Iranian plotting against U.S. or allied interests overseas.”
The spy chief’s concerns come amidst increased saber rattling from Iran with regard to the Strait of Hormuz, and tightening U.S. sanctions aimed at curbing the Iranian nuclear program.
Clapper’s testimony regarding the threat from Iran was delivered as part of the U.S. intelligence community’s annual overview of the primary national security challenges facing the United States. His testimony also singled out cyber-related threats, and the weakened but persistent threat Al Qaeda and its affiliates pose to the U.S.
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gr8t2bfree
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:17amIsrael doesn‘t need to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities. The just need to drop a few bombs on the mass troop gatherings that we see in Iran for show. Wiping out their troops will allow the anti gov’t faction to take over.Wipe out 100k troops in a single blow will make Iran more vulnerable than any sanctions would.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:25amBasically the intel chief is saying We expect blowback from Iran due to tightening sanctions. We have provoked Iran enough thru sanctions Iran is now reacting, as intended, unfortunately it’s in the form of violence against the US.
Sanctions is nothing more than provoking another nation to war. Our sanctions and further sanctioning Iran will CAUSE more blowback against the US from Iran.
Progressive foreign policy is insane and irresponsible. We will attack Iran if they cut our oil off by shutting Hormuz (Sanctions) but we wonder why they are angry we cut off supplies and business to them (sanctions)…..
This is why Buck Sexton should interview Michael Scheuer on GBTV over Iran’s threat or not and US foreign policy.
http://www.non-intervention.com
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:25amWow … the Iranian troops are wearing American baseball caps! Play ball! (Lose the gloves, though …)
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:28amI have to agree with you, Iran needs to understand that any terror attack by them or their allied terror brothers will be regarded as usage of WMD’s and the appropriate response will be involved.
Absolute and final response.
Its still fascinating that we have hosted the dictator of Yemen for several days now according to Voice to America radio show Sunday afternoon, and almost nothing is in the news.
Report Post »rrjenn
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:30amAre you a religious nut that wants to fulfill a biblical apocalyptic prophecy of the end of the world, an Israel supporter that wants America to fight yet another Jewish war for them, or just a regular nut that likes to see lots of people killed? What on Earth would make any sane man think that Iran would give up a nuclear threat by using it? Do you really believe the propaganda that you are fed daily about how insane the Iranian people are that they want to end the world?
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amRed Dawn (Patrick Swayze)……………..Bring it on………Our guns are waiting for you.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:32amThe Iranian’s are so full of hot air. they dont have a missle that can lob a watermelon over a fence. If they did, they would be bombing Israel right now…They are so full of it and the warmongers buy it…
Those who trade liberty for security get niether…AND THEY DESERVE TO BE IN THE CHAINS THEY HAVE BUILT!
This is no more than fear mongering by the UN to get more money!
Report Post »Wake up America!
rush_is_right
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:39am“Sanctions is nothing more than provoking another nation to war. Our sanctions and further sanctioning Iran will CAUSE more blowback against the US from Iran. ”
oh yes its ALWAYS our fault….
we should just give the iranians ICBMs to show our good will and friendship.
Report Post »ACLUHater
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:41amGood luck defending U.S. air strikes with those cap guns.
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:41amI didn’t realize that the new grounds for war are “Well someone in the CIA said they don’t like us!”
People stop and think for a second. THEY CAN SAY ANYONE IS READY TO STRIKE. Are we supposed to just instantly mobilize and go to war with any country they say? Are we really that stupid?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:42am“What on Earth would make any sane man think that Iran would give up a nuclear threat by using it? ”
yeah all that talk about bringing back the Mahdi…they’re just kidding…they’re our friends….and they really love Israel and the jewish people…
I have this bridge to sell ya….its real prettty…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:47amOkie from Muskogee
If your foreign policies does not even include the tool of sanctions then who have no foreign policy at all except to roll over.
In 1941 we stopped oil & iron exports to Japan in large part due to their continuing invasion of China. I see you point though. We should have continued to feed Tojo’s war machine. They would not have become bigger & more aggressive.
What were we supposed to do? Go to the League of Nations? Puh-leeease
Report Post »fallguy80
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:48amIRAN READY TO STRIKE AMERICA IN TERROR ATTACKS? This sounds more like IRAN READY TO STRIKE SAUDI ARABIAN DIPLOMATS IN AMERICA. I didn’t realize that assassinating foreign diplomats was now considered an act of TERROR. Didn’t spin that headline, did they?!
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:52amIran … I’m real impressed … (A pack of ultra maroons)
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:53am@i support
Yes war is like a movie or video game. Bring it on!!!!!! blah blah blah. You want war with Iran so bad, join and go yourself, take the place of one of the soldiers with family here who are tired of the wars.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:59amIsn’t that what an enemy does? What else does anyone expect? In case Obama doesn’t understand, Iran is our enemy.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:10pm@Rush_Is_Right
According to you, it‘s always everyone else’s fault. Which is being responsible, understanding ALL actions have consequences or pointing the finger somewhere else in blame?
Sanctions is considered provocation to war in war strategy. To say otherwise is simply ignorance.
Of course you are one who will preach down to Persian Muslim Iran and then support sending our tax dollars, weapons, and troops to Arab Muslim Pakistan or Saudi Arabia who are exactly the same as Iran thru Islam.
@WalkAbout
I‘m not saying sanctions shouldn’t be part of foreign policy or war policy. We should understand that if sanctions are used they will cause a reaction, whether stopping nuclear pursuit or retaliation, and that is the intent. Sanctions are tools of WAR and to war so we should no be surprised when using such tools we are attacked for it as it’s one of two possible outcomes.
You think US sanctions on Japan caused them to attack US?
Sanctions could be argued as a declaration of war. Are we at war with Iran?
Report Post »jackwrench
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:10pmNeocon
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:12pmHow will the smoke free, gay, WWII equipped US Army and US Marines stack up against these guys who do not even shave and can legally beat their wives. They look pretty tough to me.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:16pmAmericans have traded Guns and Butter for Obamacare and Wealth Transfer Payments. We have 100 million Americans and Chinese loans paying for the food and shelter of the other 50 million.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:16pm“take the place of one of the soldiers with family here who are tired of the wars.”
Isn’t that the reason they JOINED in the first place?!? Or, are you saying, that they only joined the military for the uniforms, pay, and benefits?!?
dope…
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:18pmYour wimpy nailbiters, Iran is a bunch of wimps!
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:21pmwhat’s with the dish gloves ? do they serve in the military kitchen right after they march?
Report Post »tgthompson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:24pm@RRJENN
the Islamic Republic of Iran is ruled by clerics and devout Shi’ites who hate the West and is driven by an apocalyptic branch of Islam that believes its duty is to begin world war that brings the return of their Mahdi (messiah)—an Imam so powerful he will bring the world under Islamic rule. An atomic bomb is Iran’s war trigger. They are not building it to use as a threat, but to use it. They are not sane, that’s the problem.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:24pmThey get manicures from each other after their man on man experiences.
Even the donkeys are scared in Iran.
Go Big TEA!
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:27pmSadly, while the thought of Iran attacking us here is totally abhorrent, maybe it would finally wake up the millions of people in this country, who are standing by and letting our Republic be destroyed. It truly might take a tragic even or a series of them, to eventually save us all.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:28pmYou think US sanctions on Japan caused them to attack US?
Sanctions either cause Pearl Harbor or were the last straw. The Japanese may have attacked the U.S. anyway once they digested China.
Sanctions could be argued as a declaration of war. Are we at war with Iran?
Yes,Sanction could be considered an act of war. If so the slapping on retaliatory tariffs in the case of duping could be considered something very close to war too.
It seems to me that if sanctions are an act of war then the only tool we have left is not to engage in in new business because withdrawing business would seen as an act of war. Might as well not have a State Department except to glad hand people & pat them on the back.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:31pm@obama sham
Yes they signed up to protect our nation and its Constitution. Problem here is they arent protecting our nation nor are they protecting our Constitution since this war is un-Constitutional. You are a Moron!
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:40pmA few days ago on another threat, one of the Left loonies (I tried to search out the post so I can call him out by name, but couldn’t find it. Maybe it was BibleQuotin’, I don’t remember) said something like:
“Oooooooooooooo! BOOGIEMAN is gonna GETCHA!”
…and kept making fun of the Right’s acknowledgement of the threat we are constantly under.
Well- here’s an expert in his field with the best intel the world has to offer in his hands, and he’s saying it too… and he’s from the Obama Administration.
I hope you’re not still laughing.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:42pmI wish we would just get it over with already and make Tehran glow in the dark.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:43pmLook at the faces in the pictures. These are people who want to kill you.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:47pm“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,” ~ Ahmadinejad
“Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the Islamic countries due to their need.” ~ Ahmadinejad
Whether you are for or against sanctions on Iran… war is looking inevitable.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:49pm“Motivated by Washington’s interventionist policies in the Muslim world, that foe declared war on America in August 1996. ”
Nice. We kick Saddam out of Kuwait with the blessing & cooperation of the ARAB LEAGUE in 1991 & we get declared war on in 1996.
- Maybe it was because we paid the Saudis more for their oil than the British paid for Iranian Oil.
- Maybe we allowed the Saudis to buy out the American part of ARAMCO.
- Maybe it is because American expats don’t live segregate but they live next door to Saudis & the women sunbathe nude on the front lawn.
-Maybe it was the regime change that we effected in Egypt from 1945 thru today. We hand picked Gamal Nasser (Egyptian Revolutionary Command Council), Anwar Sadat (National Democratic Party) & Hosni Mubarak (National Democratic Party ). You know everyone of those leaders were stool pigeons for America.
Ya whatever.
Report Post »Warthogg
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:50pmOKIE,
such a lucid post……until you mention Glenn Back.
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:50pmI like the idea..let’s do it!
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:51pmThese walking formations you see here and similarly in New Korea always make me laugh.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:53pm@Walk About
So basically, you are blaming the US for Pearl Harbor?
Nobody can say what Japan would do, we only know what they did.
Sanctions are an act of war. The purpose of sanctions is to FORCE the sanctioned country into compliance or reaction by attacking the stronger sanctioning country.
Using sanctions to strong arm other countries is reckless and irresponsible, especially if we turn around and say the reaction to sanctions is not our fault when in reality the reaction was the whole point of the sanctions.
If Iran is such a threat, declare war and wage one to win. Until then, mind American business and quit provoking them to turn around and blame them for reacting.
If Iran and Saudi Arabia teamed up for the cause of Islam and sanctioned US on oil, would we take those sanctions as an act of war and probably attack them? YES, so we should expect the Iranians to respond the same.
@okiemuskogee33
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:55pmNothing like terror threats from the US/NATO to rally the troops/homeland of Iran. They don’t need anymore glue for nationalism, by the time our troops are on the ground there, it will be a furious house to house fight just like in Iraq, even worse. Should have taken them down after the Green uprisings. Thats when the country was most divided.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:59pmFirst off. Obama is NOT going to go to war with Iran for two reasons. 1) it is right before the elections. IF you remember they kept Solyndra hidden from the American people until AFTER the elections were done. 2) He is trying to start a war here on his OWN soil.. Destruct America from the inside so there is nothing left for the citizens to do but obey the dictator, OWS is willing and trying. This has to be stopped! 3) just to throw it in there. Obama doesn’t have the balls.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:02pmHaha,,,,terror attack on America? Yea,,,but it would be a fatal mistake. You’d be dealing with more than the American military.
Report Post »arewefreenow
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:03pm“IRAN READY TO STRIKE AMERICA IN TERROR ATTACKS? This sounds more like IRAN READY TO STRIKE SAUDI ARABIAN DIPLOMATS IN AMERICA. I didn’t realize that assassinating foreign diplomats was now considered an act of TERROR. Didn’t spin that headline, did they?!”
Fallguy80, THAT is an excellent point! Thank you for making it.
Report Post »RJL
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:07pmDid anyone tell Willard ( I saved the Olympics) Romney so that he can have some more talking points other than:
Newt lied, Newts a crook, Newts “The Establishment, Newt is Saul Polinski, Newts the devil, Newt hated Reagan, Reagan hated Newt, Newt had as many wives as Joseph Smith, Tea Party hates Newt, Newts hair is uglier than Trumps, Cain was held at gun point by tea party to endorse Newt, Newt is anti-Mormon (McCain said so),
You wait till Mr. Nicely gets a hold of Iran. He squashed ($20 Million) Newt like a bug.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:09pmOkie from Muskogee
being straight forward & calling an ace an ace? I like it. We don’t have that type of Congress.
Sanctions should be part of the tool kit. If you get rid of too many tools than all you have is a tool kit with only one toll, usually a hammer.
I guess what we should do is use game theory, history & see how often sanctions got what you wanted percentage wise.
I am not always for sanctions. For example sanctions against Cuba. Sanctions can work but of there are tow many leaks than the opposition becomes resilient to increasing degrees of pressure. In Cuba’s case since Europe & Canada & other trade with Cuba I would use then opposite strategy. Smother them with love. Just poor in so much money & person to person contacts that they get overwhelmed.
I believe both strategies can work. Half a$$ing sanctions/trade embargoes or limited engagement does not work. Nothing but pain there.
Report Post »dsind
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:10pmHey is that VP Biden or Walter in your logo?
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SlimnRanger
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:26pmThe democrats called George Bush a war mongering president, seems to me that the lier in chief Obama is all about making war,Muslums lie,it’s their way of life,I do not believe Iran has the capabilities of bombing America or even Israel yet.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:28pmDon’t jump to conclusions, this is nothing more than propaganda by the US goverment/Obama admin to trick people into believing Iran will use terror attacks inside the US & usher in more of a police state against us, when in fact, our own government will stage the attacks themselves blaming Iran in hopes of bolstering obama ratings and taking the focus away from the crumbling economy. Failed politicians always start wars to distract from their failed policy. Which is what we are experiencing at this present time…..All the expense of the American peoples lives…Stay vigilant, they have lied to us before & they will do it again.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:44pmHere we go again folks! Get ready for another round of freedom restrictions from TSA/HS! They will use Iran as an excuse? This is how they plan to take over, by slowly building Homeland security forces till they are big enough to control our movements! By exaggerating the threats from any country or group thereby giving them reason to act against us! Is it not funny how most enacted restrictions are used against the normal everyday traveler not terrorist? Other wise why are we looking in granny’s shoes? When we lose our freedom to move around & communicate we’re finished without a shot being fired! We’ve a small window of time to stop it but that’s closing fast! The powers to be didn’t factor in the 2010 upset & they now need to accelerate their plans. This has led to them exposing themselves long before they had planned. That is why things are happening almost on a daily basis that give them reason to announce more restrictions on travel and speech! Obama never intended to run for a 2nd term. He was supposed to just have the dem controlled congress & Senate declare him the leader of the world. Thru the years I have written songs that draw attention to these sleaze bags in an effort to wake the people up so we can defeat them at the ballot box! This is one of those songs called “Walk’s like a Duck” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11352998
Report Post »Liberals_Need_Government
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:44pm((Sanctions is nothing more than provoking another nation to war. Our sanctions and further sanctioning Iran will CAUSE more blowback against the US from Iran. ))
Sanctions in all forms caused the Soviet Union to collapse, It works!! Yes it provokes real thought on their part and the Iranian people to wise up against a future they have no hope in.
Report Post »DavidZion
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:44pmI’m almost convinced that somehow most the biggest idiots have been drawn to the blaze. I can’t fathom so many of you being on my side.
Report Post »GRIPPI
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:54pmGod forbid I bring up the fact that our actions brought us to this point. I‘m sure I’ll be labeled many things for saying so, but the fact is we got involved, and now this is the result. The truth is, that we regular civilians have no idea what is really going on over there. Sure the media gives us bits and pieces, but flip the channel, and you get different bits. I I hate to say think that propaganda would be used to get American citizens on board with attacking Iran, but look at our nations history, and suddenly that’s not so crazy. Bring up blowback, and your labeled a conspiracy theorist or worse, bring up non-interventionalism, and you an isolationist. What happened in this country that we can no longer have dialogue, and try to solve things peacefully. try and do that, and your labeled soft. Close the bases we don’t need to have around the world, and bring those troops home to protect us, if we are worried about an attack. We hear rumors of plans to attack us, and what will we do, attack first. The world is starting to dislike us, and can we blame them. if we attack, we will kills thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of civilians, only making us more hated. we need to back off, and let Iran be Iran. If Israel is really our ally, they have 100 nukes pointed at Iran. Iran attacks, and they are done, but why do we need to throw gas on the fire? Is a nuclear Iran more dangerous, than a nuclear Cuba, or Soviet Union? We didn’t go to war with them…
Report Post »Crush_Liberalism
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:07pmYeah, but this administration believes sanctions are the answer, not conventional military action. It would be hard to convince the masses that massively reducing the size of our own fighting forces is in our best interest if Israel would wipe out a large number of conventional troops and the result is a weakened nation. The left is trying way too hard to convince everyone that scores of thousands of fewer troops is somehow HELPFUL in national defense. They can’t let Israel prove such a mindset to be wrong in just one foul swoop!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:17pmCan anyone else say “false flag propaganda”? They are trying to set the mood for America to go to war in another country and then occupy the area for a decade or so. Smooth move you neocon bastards.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:21pmA lot of you are criticizing the article about targeting Saudi diplomats, do you all have the memory of a goldfish? Do you remember the stories about revolutionary guard propaganda being found along the US Mexico Border? Yeah it will be Saudi’s right up until they decide to go shoot up a shopping mall. To them we are enemies, we have been their enemies since the days of the Shah, and these are people who hold grudges that last for centuries. Do Not Underestimate Them, especially you Libertarians.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:21pmGosh, someone had better try to tell Obama about this. I hope they explain it well enough that he begins to understand the threat. Oh, he is on the campaign trail, never mind, thats more important.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:23pm@Walk About
That I can agree to!
All I’m saying is if we are to use sanctions, we should as a tool of war and be responsible for the reactions sanctions cause. We should understand what sanctions do, cause a reaction.
Right now, our Government uses sanctions and then says look the sanctioned hate us for no reason at all, we need to attack them quick.
Sanctions won’t work on Iran an oil exporting country. Emerging markets like India will absorb everything we sanction.
In fact, Iran just announced they plan to cut oil to Europe soon in retaliation to Europe voting to embargo Iran oil. Essentially, Europe will be worse off because they will be cut off without time to find another source of oil.
Appreciate the conversation. Stay safe!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:27pmThis Intel Is BS.
INTEL told us IRAQ had WMD !!!!!!
AND YOU MORONS still GIVE THEM CREDIBILITY !!!!!!
PISS on MY leg and tell me it’s RAINING !!!!!!
MAYBE ONCE. NOT OVER and OVER !!!!!!
The Muslim and Iranian “BOOGIEMAN” threat is to continue the Military / Industrial Complex.
We have Nukes, therefore NO Countries forces will attack us !!!!!!
We have Millions of ARMED Americans.
WE can take care of our local threats !!!!!!!
LET’S ROLL !!!!!!
The Federal Government is worthless and Corrupt.
Report Post »They do NOTHING for ME, with the exception of making my life MISERABLE !!!!!!!
usnpops
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:30pmWhat most folks do not understand is that the Next Nuke war is not going to be the devastation like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We have gone way beyond that. Just a few days ago a hit by a solar flare caused problems with Communications. An EMP from a Nuke, is about 100,000 times more powerful.
It will be One Nuke shutting down the complete infrastructure of a country in less than 5 minutes after launch. Followed by the collapse of the society and deaths by attrition. Which China already says they have, and Iran is practicing to do in the Arabian Sea. All they need now is the Nuke to create the EMP.
Iran now has Missile bases in Venezuela armed with missiles that can reach the USA. They have Missile Capable Submarines being deployed to patrol off the East Coast of the USA.. They are purchasing tactical Missile Systems from Russia that are concealed in Cargo containers and undetectable till they are activated for launch.
All this to protect themselves from a “Percieved” threat of attack from the USA?
Bear in Mind that the Muslims are taught from childhood that it is their Duty to die for Allah in pursuit of the Caliphate. And to do so is to be a martyr.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:31pm“Sanctions is considered provocation to war in war strategy. To say otherwise is simply ignorance. ”
oh of course they are…we’ve had sanctions against iran for years….same with cuba…is cuba at war with us? and if you think they are, which came first?
your foreign policy is just roll over and hope they’ll be nice to us….that works SO well….
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:31pmLETs be GLAD that the CHINESE INTEL CHIEF isn‘t claiming the ’AMERICA IS READY TO STRIKE CHINA IN TERRORISTS ATTACKS’.
They would be justified in INVADING US ????
Report Post »Isn’t that correct, you freakin Neocons????
Jefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:31pmSanctions/embargoes ARE an act of war. Doesn’t matter with Iran because they have China and Russia as allies.
Sanctions were used on the Japanese to provoke an attack on Pearl Harbor to create a “helpful wave of indignation” for American support of WWII.
FDR KNEW Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked. Code purple, and the more important JN-25 codes had been broken WEEKS before the attack. FDR had even ordered the newer ships out of Pearl Harbor, and put soon to be decommissioned junk in its place.
America was mostly isolationist after WWI. They didn’t want any more of that nonsense. There was even an “America First” organisation that strongly promoted those values. That all changed after Pearl Harbor.
Gulf of Tonkin was also a bunch of horse hockey. It was an event that McNamara eventually ADMITTED NEVER HAPPENED, but was the start of a full scale war in Vietnam that killed almost 60,000 Americans..
Now they’ve backed Iran into a corner. Israel is playing a game of “let’s you and him fight.” They are good at getting us to fight their enemies for them. Google “dancing Israelis on 9/11.” Israel and elements of our hijacked US Govt. and Military are going after Iran, because they aren’t going to play ball with the IMF and World Bank loan sharks.
Many of you are gladly cheering the noose that is being lowered around your necks.
Report Post »Take some time to learn some history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fk6qkHs0oM
ashestoashes
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:43pmI just hope you guys remember that we are 15 trillion in debt..with a 16 trillion oen check to the banks and China and Russia have made their positions known.. and that is.. they will stand with Iran..
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:56pm@Liberals Need Government
The USSR collapsed do to over extending their military and war efforts as well as massive debt.
@Rush is Right
and those sanctions for years have kept fuel on the fire and caused more animosity towards the US by the Iranian citizens. What has sanctions accomplished besides provoking the Persians to war? NOTHING
Cuba has been at odds with the USA since about Thomas Jefferson’s time. 1959 the first actual sanctions due to communist revolution and 1962 or 63 a blockade was put up in an attempt to isolate Cuba. America was very bitter we were not able to colonize and keep control over Cuba the island gateway to the Gulf of Mexico so we have punished them since. Learn history.
Saying what you mean and meaning what you say is not roll over policy. Being responsible for our actions is not roll over policy. A coward provokes an altercation only to blame the provoked for reacting and that is your foreign policy because you don’t have the honor or evidence needed to declare war so you create the reaction you want.
Manipulation 101 and manipulation is evil and not of God.
If we sanctioned Cuba for hosting Russian missiles, should we be sanctioned for putting missiles in Europe? Good for the gander is good for the goose.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:03pmLooks like Mossad chief met days ago with our top folks! This is going to get very interesting considering Hillary if calling for stronger UN security actions against Syria who is a surrogate Iran terror State and who is also backed by mother Russia as is Iran. She fears what is going on in Syria will spill over into the region. I guarantee you that if we attack Syria and or Iran hostilities will spill over into the region and maybe even our own homeland with Iranian hits squads or a nuke or two from Russia. Don’t forget Chinas lobbed missile in our general direction off Socal in late 2010.
Report Post »chrisinsmyrna
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:24pmOhhh… Dangerous… very dangerous… Doesn’t accomplish what we need. What happens is Iran’s defenses are weakened, another radical faction takes over. The new group still has the bomb and are probably more likely to use it. This is basically what happened to our little endeavor into Libya, where we helped a radical group unseat Quadaffi only to find out that the new group had thousands of weapons that the US “donated”, which can then be used against us or our allies. We’ve now made this mistake in Afghanistan twice. We helped the Mujaheddin run the Ruskies out so the Taliban took over. The Taliban let Al Qaeda base their training camps and Bin Laden (who we supported) and that resulted in 911. Now we’ve evicted the Taliban, and they’ve joined up with Al Qaeda and will likely take back the country in a more dangerous form as soon as our troups are gone. Heck we even gave them a timetable to work on so they can be Johnny-on-the-spot .
Report Post »robert
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:26pm“Clapper added that “We are also concerned about Iranian plotting against U.S. or allied interests overseas.”
All we need right now is another war to cause this economy to topple and cause thousands more deaths and maimings.
The concept of mutually assured destruction works with Iran as it has and does with all the other hostile states who possess nuclear weapons, like North Korea and Pakistan and China.
We’re being lied to again, because the political demagogues and the power hungry elites believe an attack on Iran will increase their power and wealth some way.
I‘m surprised this Obama bunch isn’t trying to get us to believe Iran will bomb us, because they “hate our freedoms,” as the moronic Geo. Bush expected us to believe about the terrorist attack on the WTC.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:29pmGods ISRAEL
Green dawn
BADDOG
dont need missles . Smallboat could take out any
port city Hope you dont live neer one..
TEAMARCHESON
What kind of tea are you smoking.
TXPILOT
I hate to say it , but you may be on to
something again
Me thinks I should have stayed in TX.
but I still Love WV
Draft Next war will be over to quick…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:34pmLast thing, to all the Shiite “Islam” experts, google Sufayani and see in Persian belief before a Mahdi comes the Sufayani must present himself in Syria and that brings about the “Mahdi”….A lot forget to tell you that part…..
Iran wants a US attack because it will unite Islam and Caliphate around the Persians and topple the current powerful Saudi Sunnis….
We sided with Islam on the Arab side and can be seen by sending them F-15′s, bunker busting bombs, our tax dollars, nuclear technology, troops for defense, and advanced weapons. Now Saudi called on all ARAB countries to unite under the Saudi King and form an Arab State (caliphate) to counter the Persians.
After the Persians are removed, you think that US armed, trained, and supplied Islamic Arab Caliphate will turn on the US and Israel? But I thought Islam was evil and treating women like animals was wrong.
Dumb!
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:35pm@Martinez0121po3iu21pi4uy1q23pio5jh43o
“@obama sham
Yes they signed up to protect our nation and its Constitution. Problem here is they arent protecting our nation nor are they protecting our Constitution since this war is un-Constitutional. You are a Moron!”
My point still stands… dope…
Report Post »navydoc2008
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:50pm@teamarcheson
Really? Are you really that ignorant? You think all of us in the military are Gay wimps? Wow! That must be easy for a coward like you to say from your nice comfortable home. I bet you haven’t served a day in your life. Let me guess you would if you weren’t born with that short leg. I think you should think about what you are saying before you share your ignorance with the world. We have the finest military in the world no matter what a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, or Airman’s sexual orientation. My Marines and Sailors put their life on the line regularly to protect you, maybe you should have at least a little “emoticon” (sic) of respect.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:00pm@ Okie from Muskogee
Report Post »Yes, because if the US so much as farts in the wrong direction any resulting attack is blowback. Because evrything is our fault (sarcasm).
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:24pm@Watchers
If someone “farts” towards me, that is a sign of war! Smelly gas is nothing to play with.
Seriously – Who else is to be responsible for American actions than we Americans?
It’s more than just “farting in the wind” and any RESPONSIBLE person would admit as such. Irresponsibility is destroying America….
Report Post »Bluedog78
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:25pmFool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me. Folks, this is #2, Iraq was #1. Looks like we learned nothing.
Report Post »Maverick3899
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:56pmrrjenn is obviously disconnected from the real world. The Leaders of Iran has constantly stated in public their determination to destroy Israel and the United States and hasten the return of their God. This can be seen at anytime just by searching the net and watching videos you can see the words from their own lips.
Report Post »mattmo79
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:23pmYou people are forgetting we have the loser-in-chief in office. He will use the situation to complete his dictatorship and install Marshal Law, won’t counter attack Iran and will instead apologize for being American. He will then adopt Islam Sharia as our new consitution to placate Iran.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:25pmSounds like a bunch of BS to me. A used car salesmen in Texas was working with drug cartels to kill a Saudi ambassador in Washington? No. This is false flag BS from Iseral and US working to make a Iran strike justified with China and Russia. This is more war mongering and necon propaganda.
Report Post »fatlibertarian
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:32pmThat will just continue the warfare state. This is why I’m voting for Paul. He’s the only one who can truly change our relationship with Iran. Everyone else, along with Congress pretty much assures some kind of world war. I am not going to support your war mongering any further and will seek peace. War is a last resort and sanctions never work, diplomacy HAS WORKED. But Paul’s foreign policy is rarely tried much anymore.
Report Post »M1A2_Tanker
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:55pmOkie from Muskogee
You basically said that Terrorist attacks on U.S. soil causing the death of many U.S. citizens is a perfectly acceptable response to sanctions. Your a frigging ID10T. Killing people for sanctions is an escalation of force not a response. How can you justify those actions yet a preemptive strike is completely out of control? Your logic lacks logic. Straight up these people want Americans dead! ALL AMERICANS DEAD! That even includes atheists. Mohammed tells them to kill us all! Yet you blame America for their action’s/reaction’s? I’m sure they have a nice ground level 2 bedroom mud hut you could rent for pennies on the dollar.
Report Post »Warrior4Zion
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:55pmIt’s time once and for all to show our loyalty to the Jewish people. We didn’t stop the first Holocost in time but if we act fast we can stop the second one. We need to take Iran out! You can not threaten the Jewish people and expect to have a place on God’s green earth. They are chosen people and we’ve been commanded to bless them and defend them in the earth by the Holy Bible.
If Russian and China wants to give us any lip tell them to bring it own! We are America! We answer to no one. We have been given the mantle of Freedom to take througout the earth. To whom much is given much is required and it’s up to us to help these nations set up a democracy like ours where everyone can vote.
God Bless Israel and Israel’s defenders!
I stand with Israel!
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:09pmhow do they plan on getting here? LOL…
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:12pmGee, maybe Obama should go brown-nose Ahmadinejad some more, do ya think?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:13pmM1A2
I said sanctions will result in one of 2 actions: compliance or retaliation, and if we are to USE sanctions we must be responsible for the reaction they provoke.
You do understand sanctions applied upon a country causes hardship for the people living in such country don’t you? Sanctions can kill people, and are intended to do so.
If America was sanctioned by the UN by request of China, Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia you‘d be begging America to attack in response because our economy would collapse and you’d be starving.
Look at the reaction by the US when Iran said it would sanction us back by closing the strait of Hormuz. We responded it would be taken as a declaration of war. Why should we not expect others to do the same when we sanction them?
If “they” want us all dead, why do we arm Saudi Arabia with weapons? Why give UAE bunker busting bombs and nuclear technology? Why send billions of our tax dollars to Pakistan? All are Islamic and follow Mohamed.
Free advice: before calling someone an idiot, read what you write.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:15pmWarrior4Zion
I know your the one who called the constitution “a stupid old piece of paper” so your not to bright. But what do you call the billions in foreign aid we give to Iseral? You say we need to finally help Iseral. But I think we have done just that. There is not going to be a second holacust. We give them so much. Money, Weapons, Military gear. But you want us to make them a 51st state. You dummy we are going broke but you dont care. THEY HAVE 300 NUKES. They can take care of themselves. If you are such a warrior for zion. You should know that tenets to zion is to take care of yourself. We have done so much for the state of Iseral. You would rather this country go broke. You are a problem.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:21pmAnother name for Iran (Persia) in the Bible is Elam.
Report Post »Elam was an ancient civilization located in what is now southwest Iran.
“This is the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet concerning
Elam [Iran].” (Jeremiah 49:34)
“See, I will break the bow of Elam, the mainstay of their might. I will bring
against Elam the four winds from the four quarters of heaven; I will scatter
them to the four winds, and there will not be a nation where Elam’s exiles
do not go.” (Jeremiah 49:35–36)
“‘I will shatter Elam before their foes, before those who want to kill them; I
will bring disaster on them, even my fierce anger,’ declares the Lord. ‘I will
pursue them with the sword until I have made an end of them. I will set my
throne in Elam and destroy her king and officials,’ declares the Lord. ‘Yet
I will restore the fortunes of Elam in days to come,’ declares the Lord.”
(Jeremiah 49:37-39)
“I will bring against Elam [Iran] the four winds from the four quarters of
heaven; I will scatter them to the four winds….” (Jeremiah 49:35–36)
Jim S
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:22pm….Thank God, for a moment there I thought we were not going to have a war…now I see they have the same plan as we do, if diplomacy fails,kill people…these last 10 years of war were OK but just weren’t as good as they could have been…but now,this might just be a start of something big…really big…yummy…
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:25pmGuess that signals that the Iranians are wanting to glow in the dark then?
Report Post »deano24
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:29pmIf you notice the garb that the soldiers are wearing has the Hezzbollah symbol & the same colors green & yellow.
Report Post »Warrior4Zion
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:37pmWAKEUPUSA2012; The way I see it you either with God and Israel or you aint. You decide.
I will stand with Israel!
Report Post »BigDaddyG
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:16pmThis leak is getting the voters ready for Obama’s October surprise this fall. What unites a people more than a common enemy and a war! Remember Bush’s approval rating at the start of the 2 wars? So the Nobel prize winner has a war planned for rallying the voters this fall. And any negative comments regarding Obama’s war will be silenced by the usual use of the race card and cries from his administration of unpatriotic people. The sheep will be led to the slaughter again…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:18pm@Dean
Uniform colors are significant to Islamic beliefs….
@Warrior for Zion
Provide the verse you say says we must “stand with Israel”….
I have no problem friending Israel or her right to exist. I also have no problem respecting Israel’s desire to live Independent and Self Reliant. Why do you?
I am seed of Abraham thru Jesus Christ!
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:39pmWarrior4zion
The way I see you either love the constitution and freedom. Or you hate America and what she stands for. You only want to use the consstitioun when it fits. Thats not the way it works. You either follow the whole thing or you fall apart. You worship a state. I stand with Iseral. We should do everything we can to help them. But we can not afford to giver them everything and watch our own people go broke and sign our children into debt.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:42pmOKIE FROM MUSKOGEE you guy is a kook and will place 4th here in Florida (they let the Dems/Libs vote in FL primary) http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/09/30/ron-paul-cair-and-the-aclu-agree-killing-al-awlaki-was-wrong-2/
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 8:06pm@Republicorp
Good one! I bet you thought hard for hours to have that bright gem of a comment come to you and to think you only had a couple of grammatical errors and only insults….
Sharp as duct tape I say!
Report Post »jeezpeeps
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 8:14pmWhy not? If we have to attack make it VERY visable. I agree 1,000%! They wanna tangle? Meat grinder city. Let them have it.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 8:16pmRepubliCorp
Yeah you really told him off. Ron Paul the person who saw this whole econmic mess coming. Who knows how to fix it. Who knows how to stop it from happening again. He is a KOOK.
In a world of stupid the genuine, smart ones are made fun off. Way to swallow hook line and sinker what the MSm and Fox news sells you.
sorry you dont think for yourself.
Report Post »Watchman_on_the_Wall
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:05pmThe Rothschild-Zionists running Israel want nothing better than to start WWIII that ends up pitting Muslim nations against Christian nations that result in the destruction of both factions. This has been part of the global elites’ plan since the late 1800s and is designed to usher in their New World Order. Our CFR-controlled government and our “jewish” owned and controlled media are working in collaboration with the Israeli Rothschild-Zionists to foment war by pushing Iran into a corner, just as the US deliberately did under FDR with Japan as a ruse for drawing the US into war with both Japan and the other other Axis powers in WWII and as the sinking of the Lusitania was orchestrated between the US and Britain to draw the US into WWI.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:05pmThe butt pushers are getting restless, time to make glass anyone?
Report Post »Spyder Jack
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:23pmWhy is it when this country has taken up bad policy that the enemy comes after the innocent Americans. It would make better sense that go after the listing of all those that are in the political structure instead. I am sure the enemy could put together a list of politicians, the corporate leaders that write policy, the attorneys that screw everyone anyway, the educators that mold the minds of the innocent American people, and finally those that usurp the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That would make this country a whole lot better off. God knows we have asked them to leave but they won’t!
Report Post »Unix
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:28pm@Watchman_on_the_Wall
Report Post »Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:05pm
The Rothschild-Zionists running Israel want nothing better than to start WWIII that ends up pitting Muslim nations against Christian nations that result in the destruction of both factions. This has been part of the global elites’ plan since the late 1800s and is designed to usher in their New World Order. Our CFR-controlled government and our “jewish” owned and controlled media are working in collaboration with the Israeli Rothschild-Zionists to foment war by pushing Iran into a corner, just as the US deliberately did under FDR with Japan as a ruse for drawing the US into war with both Japan and the other other Axis powers in WWII and as the sinking of the Lusitania was orchestrated between the US and Britain to draw the US into WWI.
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May I ask what drugs you are on moron?
Warrior4Zion
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:40pmWatchman_on_the_Wall: Another anti-Semite on the Blaze claiming Jews run the Media.. I say put up or shut up.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:42pm@ Okie from Muskogee
I did put sarcasm in parenthaseis at the end, didn’t I? Any hoo, Iran hates us pure and simple and us meddling in the middle east or putting sanctions on them isn’t the reason why. People who say it is, well it’s just a convenient excuse that explains everything without actually explaining anything, if it is us who provoked war than keep in mind Iran has done so aswell.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:50pmWe take care of our allys
But we are going broke. Isreal can help herself out when it comes to money. We dont need to go to war whenever Iseral wants to.
Report Post »PresidentDowngrade
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 10:13pmThis info comes from Clapper? The boob that thinks the muslim brotherhood is a secular organization.If Iran hits us I hope they hit warshington first. get my friend Carolyn out and Allen West and Bo the dog then let it rip. Green Light Iran. Go Go Go.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:42amAnd as long as our own President REFUSES TO PROTECT US on our borders, then, they are free to waltz right in carrying whatever arms they want!!!
Report Post »Safer than it has ever been, Mr. President?
So, If my grandmother’s house, which never had locks, were to have ONE lock added to it, I could claim it was “safer than ever.” Of course, no thief would dare check one of the other doors or windows!!
What a joke! Our own President refuses to protect us.
Then, he puts a woman in charge of homeland “security” – who STOPS the border from being secured!!
ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL, Mr. President!!!
Your own poor judgement, and your own actions as President are exactly why you will be voted out in November.
MMSands
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:52amOkie, sorry to disagree, but the threat from Iran isn’t a blowback because of anything the U.S. is doing. Blowback is a convenient excuse, but the mere fact of our existence is what makes Iran determined to destroy us.
Report Post »fidel1234
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:09amI like that as long as Americans aren’t involved,let Israel handle this,our putting sanctions is a act of war and it may turn the people who like us against us.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 1:43pmMMSands
If you believe what you wrote, you are 100% wrong.
Please, tell us all why all Iranians hates us. Or do they all hate us just because they can and for giggles.
How many Persians have you ever spoke to face to face? 0
Give me a break kid…..
Report Post »MZOG3915
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 5:10pmGlenn beck, you should be ashamed of yourself for spouting this ******** propaganda on the blaze or even allowing it to see the light of day. All the fear mongering is getting old!!!! I thought you were one of the good guys but you are just falling into place with the rest of the elite by trying to scare people into losing all their freedom. Its getting old!!!
Report Post »ARMAGEDDON
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 5:52pmJust NUKE them. They are just a more caveman version of Germany back in 39′. Nuke them and turn their sea of sand into a sea of GLASS. No more flag burning and no more lalalalalalalalalalalal…And yes, I would push the button.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 6:59pm@Okie from Muskogee,
“Sanctions is nothing more than provoking another nation to war. Our sanctions and further sanctioning Iran will CAUSE more blowback against the US from Iran.”
Agreed!
America, the supposed Iranian Assassination Plot was manufactured – it wasn’t real!
See here.
Will Holder Fold?
http://lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski277.html
FOCUS ON THE FAST AND FURIOUS SCANDAL!
Holder has been threatened with Contempt of Congress. We are close to discrediting a big chunk of the Obama Administration.
Issa Threatens Holder with contempt
Report Post »http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/01/issa-threatens-holder-with-contempt.html
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 7:27pm@Walkabout,
“If your foreign policies does not even include the tool of sanctions then who have no foreign policy at all except to roll over.”
Our Founders’ foreign policy was to mind our own business.
See here.
Thomas Jefferson’s Third Annual Message to Congress
http://www.teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?docu*****ment=664
(Remove asterisks from the URL.)
“We have seen with sincere concern the flames of war lighted up again in Europe, and nations with which we have the most friendly and useful relations engaged in mutual destruction. While we regret the miseries in which we see others involved let us bow with gratitude to that kind Providence which, inspiring with wisdom and moderation our late legislative councils while placed under the urgency of the greatest wrongs, guarded us from hastily entering into the sanguinary contest, and left us only to look on and to pity its ravages. …”
(Continued on next post)
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 7:30pm(Continued from prior post)
“… These will be heaviest on those immediately engaged. Yet the nations pursuing peace will not be exempt from all evil. In the course of this conflict, let it be our endeavor, as it is our interest and desire, to cultivate the friendship of the belligerent nations by every act of justice and of incessant kindness; to receive their armed vessels with hospitality from the distresses of the sea, but to administer the means of annoyance to none; to establish in our harbors such a police as may maintain law and order; to restrain our citizens from embarking individually in a war in which their country takes no part; to punish severely those persons, citizen or alien, who shall usurp the cover of our flag for vessels not entitled to it, infecting thereby with suspicion those of real Americans, and committing us into controversies for the redress of wrongs not our own;”
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:00pm@MMSands,
“Okie, sorry to disagree, but the threat from Iran isn’t a blowback because of anything the U.S. is doing. Blowback is a convenient excuse, but the mere fact of our existence is what makes Iran determined to destroy us.”
Our CIA deposed a popularly elected Prime Minister for the benefit of a British oil company. The Shah we put in power was a brutal dictator.
In 1979 the Iranians rose up against the Shah, and since America put him there, they took over our Embassy and took American hostages.
As Ron Paul says, 1979 was blowback for 1953.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on February 2, 2012 at 9:59am@Okie from Muskogee
Give him a break, you have this irrational thought that when sanctions are slapped against a country for the action of their gov. that they are justifiable to provoke war, they’ve been doing it before sanctions were placed. Anti American rhetoric has been in that country since the last SHAH was in power, so you tell me why you think they hate us.
Report Post »TheInfidelCrusader
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:03amWhen Israel attacks Iran, the armies of the world will unit, and attack Israel. Along with all the Islamic countries within the 10/40 window.
Report Post »Thus begins WW III.
And the US under THIS president will be right along with the UN supporting the world’s military actions against Israel.
kickthecan
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:16amWAR WAR WAR
Report Post »Let’s all go to war some more
The ones we have “fought” for the last 10-20 years aren’t enough
We need more WAR WAR WAR
At all costs WAR
ImMormon
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:21amDEFEND DEFEND DEFEND… our Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:22amI don;t care if there is a war. The Dems voted this fool into office. My kids won’t be drafted anyway even the male of military age. Some DEM voter will be drafted & die due to funding cuts for training, research & intel. Sucks to be a DEM voter.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:32amRemember what happened as “Dutch” was becoming Prez? The terrorists gave up their hostages cause they knew what he had instore for them.
That being said, is an attack on the US more likely to be this year..while they know they have an anti-american twit in office? Or will they gamble and wait in hopes he will be re-elected and their is no “cowboy” stepping into the whitehouse in 2013 to properly respond?
MS-GlenNBC
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:33amwouldn’t you rather have a conversation with Ann Coulter and make fun of Newt Gingrich??
I though so..
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:42am@walkabout
Good to hear you dont care. I mean its not like we are broke or that other fathers and mothers kids will get drafted.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:54amYou get war whether you want it or not. People attack you whether you have ever attacked them or not. Grow up. Why did The whole North African coast have people who attacked & enslaved Americans from 1783 until 1804. What did we do to them? That was only 21 years of uninterrupted warfare. One sided but still warfare.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:58amThe_Almighty_Creestof
Don’t know. Apparently the Iranians will attack or attempt to attack Israel during an election year. See Azerbaijan, Bangkok & Argentinian plots which were uncovered. That their plots were foiled might give them pause. It all depends on how squeezed they feel & what they are counting on/calculating. I wouldn’t rule out an attack.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:10pmFirst, I didn’t vote Obama or any other Democrat into national office.
Second, I didn’t protest in the streets or make public statements that the war is lost (any war but specifically Iraq). In 1991 & 2003 Saddam Hussein knew he couldn’t prevail against the U.S. Military. He just calculated that if he could inflict enough casualties & hold out long enough that he would prevail. The street protests, Harry Reid making comments “The War is lost.”, CNN reporter Christine Amanpour screeching “100,000 body bags”. Ted Kopecne -Kennedy, I will vote against every war, all give hope to any nation or oligarchy that has ill will toward America & Americans.
Oh & we are not broke if we break the power of the union cartels & lower taxes. You want velocity & productivity let people keep more of what they earn. The economic recession/depression will evaporate.
I would not hesitate to have my kids sign up if the military was something more than a football. As it is we take higher casualties at the start of every new war because some damnable lib always is looking for a peace dividend.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:18pmMay the Lord spare the sons of Iran, that they may learn of the true Israel. Jesus Christ.
Report Post »RJL
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:24pmDid anyone tell Willard ( I saved the Olympics) Romney so that he can have some more talking points other than:
Newt lied, Newts a crook, Newts “The Establishment, Newt is Saul Polinski, Newts the devil, Newt hated Reagan, Reagan hated Newt, Newt had as many wives as Joseph Smith, Tea Party hates Newt, Newts hair is uglier than Trumps, Cain was held at gun point by tea party to endorse Newt, Newt is anti-Mormon (McBlaim said so),
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:32pmBut if you believe the Keynesian model of economics, war and destruction creates wealth. Of course, in the movie “The Fifth Element”, that didn’t work out so well for the bad guy. Remember people, the economic model that our gov’t and Obama follow is the same model that an evil corporatist tried to use to make himself rich by destroying the earth. No joke.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:24pmWalk-about,
Don’t worry about your kids getting drafted.
Report Post »Mine volunteered to serve in a time of war.
They will go so yours don’t have to. (sigh)
….and no we did not vote for the fool in chief.
Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:41pmAxelPhantom
Report Post »The two preceding generations volunteering is enough. Dieing for one country is an acceptable risk, but not for a country full of craven. More like service members don’t die for their country as they are wasted by politicians. That is a BFD.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:24pmanyone who doesn‘t say they don’t care if there is war.
Report Post »you WILL eat your words. ;)
jeezpeeps
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:37pm@JB.Kibs how do they plan on getting here? LOL… Do you think that the open borders, illeagal aliens from everywhere else in the world… Are they all friends? No possible terror plots there eh? Lord I hope not, I will continue to love my neighbors as I love myself. Just feel that I need to ask you… maybe so you can assure me that it’s all gonna be all right. But i need to know how you keep all that sand out of your eyes, nose and mouth with your head buried so deep?
Report Post »mattintexas
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:16amDid anyone ever stop to think that they own ALL THE GAS STATIONS!!!! Wouldn’t be that hard to cripple us would it. Better get the WWII concentration camps that are in America back up and running………we’re gonna need them.
Report Post »YouAreMistakenSir
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:13pmWho is they? The Iranians, the Israeli or the democrats/progressives/liberals?
Report Post »ImMormon
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:15amHey Ron Paul supporters… where are you now? Bring home 100% of our troops and bring the enemy to our home soil? This is too big of an issue to give up!
Romney 2012
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:24amHow many Israelis were arrested after or during the 9-11 event? What was their fate?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:27amIran cuts off oil exports to Europe. Europe goes into a tail spin. No more exports form Europe to the U.S. & no more exports form U.S. to Europe. The U.s> economy contracts but Paul supporters are happy becuase they lived their values. :)
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amI can‘t believe that so many Americans still don’t vet the Candidates. This is why we are where we are. Both Romney and Gingrich are the ones selected to continue the same old CRAP we are given. Do your homework Sheep people.
Report Post »Did any of you even know that Romney’s dad ran for President, check that out and answer the questions about these guys selected to be where they are for a reason. People are being led, just like they have planned. Fools like you will get us all killed.
RagingJudge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amYes, because attacks on our soil should be dealt with overseas. Where does THAT make any sense? How about securing our borders and fighting the domestic enemy. Let them waste their resources and lower their morale by coming to fight US. If fighting these foreign wars puts a strain on OUR budget, just IMAGINE what it’ll do to theirs.
And they have no credit rating, nor an important international currency. They would not be able to get away with this borrowing murder like we have, not even close.
Let them take the fight to us. I, among many patriots, will be waiting with plenty of weapons and ammunition (and bacon) to thwart this threat. An attack on mainland US spells nothing but death and embarassment for them, we just have to enact a defensive strategy.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:36amI’m a Paul supporter. All I got to say is…. You trust Clapper? Pftt, whatever.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:45amLOL
@Immormon
And how does Iran get here to our soil. I think you have been brainwashed and wouldnt understand military logistics if General Patton was beating you over a head with a book.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:14pmmartinez012577
LOL
@Immormon
And how does Iran get here to our soil. I think you have been brainwashed and wouldnt understand military logistics if General Patton was beating you over a head with a book.
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Now I know you are lib seeing how busy you are here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Shopping_Mall_bombing_plot
They will not always send second stringers. If a lone wolf (best case scenario for you) can cross the border I am sure a 4 to 8 man teams or several teams could cross the border too.
Take your head out & breather!
Report Post »ehanson005
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:25pm@ragingjudge….In war the offense ALWAYS has the advantage over the defense. When you can act and force your enemy to react to your movements or actions you are in control of the conflict. Why do we fight them “over there”? Because if your enemy is expending men and treasure to defend their territory then they are unable to expend men and treasure to conduct significant offensive operations against you. That is why we dont just pull all our troops home. If anything we should remove all our troops from Europe and deploy them on long term bases in the middle east. Keep the sword of damaclease dangling over their head and decrease the overseas operating budget of the military.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:36pm@walk
Ok, so a Muslim wanted to blow up a mall. I for sure see this type of thing coming to our shores. What exactly makes you think having 900 bases in 130 countries and starting more wars with Muslim nations prevents this type thing.
I will link the Bin Laden video again for you. Its in his own words why they want to attack us. Dont be so blind and mislead by the Bill Oreilly, Rush, Sean, and I guess now the Becks of the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw&feature=related
In his own words, he would bring the war to our shores for occupying Muslim lands and killing civilians.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:37pmmartinez012577
I forgot to add that the Islamist hate us because it is Bush’s fault. See this guy entered the U.S. illegally in 1999 to cause terror. That is incontravertible proof that it is Bush’s fault & all due to our involvement starting in Iraq in 2003
“Nuradin Abdi entered the United States Illegally in 1999 from Somalia”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Shopping_Mall_bombing_plot
You do realize that “Blackhawk Down” was the result of a nascent Al Qaeda training the Somalis. Itm was Al Qaeda that showed them how to down helos.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:38pmWalkabout:
So we should go to war with Iran to prevent a hypothetical 4 to 8 man scenario?!?
Why not secure our country and it’s borders? we’re broke, kid. We cannot afford another war based on hypotheticals. The glory days of 2004 war lust has passed. Walk it off.
MATTINTEXAS:
We Paul supporters are still here. What? you think some article about assassinating foreign ambassadors on US soil is going to make us want to get into a fifth war? The name of the game is economic survival. Getting into a land war with Iran is not going to help us to that end.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:44pmRon Paul is assessment of blow back is correct only in the sense that our strategies in Iraq and Afghanistan are/were incorrect. President Bush failed to assure a sound military strategy. The route of “winning hearts and minds” and “pacification”, which failed in Viet Nam, were employed.
If Bush had put in place the following, Paul’s assessment would be faulty. This is a cut and paste from an article I read and happen to agree with.
“To paraphrase the Italian political analyst Machiavelli, a leader should be kind, helpful, compassionate, etc. until war breaks out. At that point, the leader of the military forces needs to become vicious and ruthless, aspiring to aggressively win the conflict as quickly as possible. Once victorious, everyone can go back to their regular jobs and the leader can be kind, helpful and so forth once again.
War is a serious endeavor and should only be undertaken by serious people who can articulate a clear vision of victory….
The war on terror is an example of an old world strategy in a new age of warfare. We are not fighting for land but for beliefs and purpose, which are not geographically limited. Members of terrorist organizations need to be taught that if they do kill thousands of Americans then their friends, neighbors and relatives, at least the ones who manage to survive our retaliation, will spend the rest of their lives wishing that those terrorists had not been so stupid as to attack the United States.
We cannot
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:54pmneverfinal
I can‘t believe that so many Americans still don’t vet the Candidates. n. Do your homework Sheep people.
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435 Reps
100 Senators
50 governors
Maybe 100 other people of various stature (big city mayors, business people, etc) who we usually choose from.
If you say Ron Paul is the only choice whatever. Go call someone else sheeple. Better not make it habit or you will do so IRL.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:20pmmartinez012577
900 bases in 130 countries! Spooky.
I know of countries in the US.S. that have 3 installations.
The big round number argument. Dogbert uses that argument.
One of my parents was stationed overseas & that is how my parents met. I have also heard some people saying that then one‘s parent’s country was OCCUPIED because their were American bases. Of course they were leftists. I never heard any such talk from relatives or from my parent.
All I care about is the that the quadrennial review is done correctly & is not a political football & that our allies live up to their NATO obligation 4% expenditure on military to shoulder their FAIR share.
Arguing number like 900 or 130 is LAME without talking about the quadrennial review.
That 500 civilian sailors are hostage in Somalia is proof enough that the politicians have not allowed the military to do their job or they are not spending enough.
Report Post »RJL
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:26pmDid anyone tell Willard ( I saved the Olympics) Romney so that he can have some more talking points other than:
Newt lied, Newts a crook, Newts “The Establishment, Newt is Saul Polinski, Newts the devil, Newt hated Reagan, Reagan hated Newt, Newt had as many wives as Joseph Smith, Tea Party hates Newt, Newts hair is uglier than Trumps, Cain was held at gun point by tea party to endorse Newt, Newt is anti-Mormon (McBlaim said so), blah, blah, blah.
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:06pmOffensive strategy absolutely does NOT have amonopoly on victory. Offensive strategies are only successful short-term, otherwise they inevitably become costly and ineffective. Either you lose momentum and the campaign drags on or you outrun your supply lines and risk defeat in battle or even being surrounded and cut off from all possible supply routes. Only defensive strategy can be maintained on a long-term basis, and is especially effective in our situation, where the enemy cannot possibly cut off our trade with other nations. They can cut off the Strait of Hormuz, so what? That would hurt them more than anyone, since that is their primary source of income. As soon as we start drilling in the US that won’t even matter.
I’m all in favor of offensive strikes against nations we have declared war against. We DO actually have to declare war though, and the operations have to be swift and punishing. Think guerrilla warfare on a large scale. Get in, do some damage, get out, recover, repeat. That will keep them on their toes, so they cannot focus their forces solely on offense. It would be MUCH cheaper for us, and we would do MUCH more damage-per-dollar.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:16pmThis is bs…
We could take out iran in less than an hour…
we have drones that are hypersonic…
we have lazers , we have sound weapons…
we have weather weapons …HAARP.
Israel can take care of their dam selves,
Report Post »we give them everything they have…
OLDARTFAY
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:30pmBig Sis could invite the Iranians over, pay their way and make sure they were unimpeded crossing the border, just so the C-Air folks would not think we were anti-islamic. Might even see that they get home safe and sound too. So, we might as well bring the troops home, … but then that would add to the unemployment number . . . . or maybe we could hire them to clean up the mess and bury the dead, . . . Its all just so difficult.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:25pmyou know the Iranians are responding to our sanctions right? just like Ron Paul said they would… “Santions are an act of war”… it’s economic warfare…
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:15amI’m not worried at all. I live in NJ and carrying a gun or getting a permit to carry is next to impossible. So these terrorists will not come here because they won’t get a carry permit. Also, in NJ hollow point bullets are illegal along with fully automatic weapons. Thank goodness the NJ government is ignoring the 2A and the right of the honest citizen to protect themselves. Because with all these laws terrorists won’t dare come into NJ with a fully automatic weapon or nukes. Yes, these laws protect us….
Report Post »gr8t2bfree
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:18amYou are so funny!
Report Post »TruthAlways801
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:24am@CESSNA152 you think they are going to get a permit? The only thing that gun laws do is prevent the good guys from getting guns. The bad guys will get them by non-legal means. Ignorance isn’t bliss..
Report Post »Turks
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:26amI live in NJ as well. Carry your weapon and shoot first…that way you will be around to explain later. The hell with the law. Laws protect criminals. If you follow the “law” the bad guy will be around to shoot another day and you’ll be 6 feet under.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amRIP- you are a walking/typing dead person with that frame of mind.
Report Post »Mtroom
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:56am@Cessna…Isn’t it funny when you write in black and white, and see how many different directions your sarcasm can go?…
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:19pm@ Truth:
Boy, nuthin’ gets by you, does it…?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:37pmGiven our Immigration Quota… they won’t even get in the Country! :)
Report Post »OLDARTFAY
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:41pmNot to worry. Big Sis will catch them with her body scanners, unless she is too busy cavity searching old ladies with walkers or in wheel chairs.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:46pmWow, I thought for sure anyone with half a brain would read the sarcasm dripping in my post.
NJ sucks with their freaking Unconstitutional laws. I can’t get out of this state!!!
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:33pm@cessna152, i was laughing…
Report Post »but, you are right… people who thought you were serious… wow…
Cemetery
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:14amHow many years are they going to continue to use AK-47′s before they finally get an upgrade?
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:25amIf it ain‘t broke don’t fix it. AKs have been around this long because they work, not because they are brag-worthy to your pals at the gun range or at the compound. A 60% more devastating round is just a bonus. Throw in cheap and ubiquitous, and you have a winner for all 3rd-world despot armies and self-defense on a budget.
I know I’ll never convert an AR zealot. But hey, I think the AK has far more “pros” than the AR, just my $.02.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=100iV8uON-c
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:26amAK 47 are like a Sherman tank. there were more Shermans than Panzers in the end.
Many of the parts are made from stampings (Cheap fabrication) & are cheap to mass produce. The rifle tolerate dirty conditions & still fires.
“Quantity has a quality all its’ own” – Lenin or “Never fight a land war in Asia.”
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:35amThe M14 is every bit as reliable as the AK, packs more punch, is much more accurate, and is effective at a greater range, ESPECIALLY with optics attached. The AK is a piece of Russian **** designed for ignorant peasants who know nothing about fighting or firearms.
Report Post »dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:36amwhat‘s wrong with AK’s? The link from the main page showed a parade with FALs. Their rifles are more reliable and powerful than our almost as old finicky underpowered m16′s.
Report Post »Mtroom
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:10pmYou act like these are the same guns from the 60′s…If you look into the AK, it has stayed easy and cheap to produce, while being upgraded over many years now…The original AK’s can be upgraded with the new production parts and continued to be used…You can shoot it underwater, in the sand, and use multiple types of ammo…Makes it the best battle weapon ever produced..The simple mechanics, means a kid can rip it apart and put it back together again…Devastating fire power and easy to use…Don’t ever think the most produced gun in the world is to old.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:16pmRagingJudge
Greater range & accuracy, but you are assuming that you can keep them some what further away than their effective range.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:17pmWhen you use people as cannon fodder you dont need the most high-tech weapons. During WWII the russions tanks outnumbered the Nazi tanks about 10 to 1 … the Nazi’s could not kill them fast enough and got overrun. Same as in Vietnam…we killed 100 times more solders but they kept coming. And besides, and AK is perfect for what they use it for…they are not expected to reach out and touch someone 1000 yards away; they are cheap, they can take three broken ones and make a working one and the battle field is littered with extra ammo
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:27pmThose are in fact AK-47s in the picture, even though the Iranian Army likes to use their own Iranian-designed Khaybar KH2002, an 5.56mm NATO M16 clone that resembles the FAMAS (and yes, is named after the slaughter of Jews at Khaybar).
Clearly range is not always important, but the M14 sacrifices nothing over the AK-47 to provide that accuracy and range. It is every bit as reliable as an AK. And no, you cannot jam mud into your AK barrel and expect it to fire. It can take a lot, but a full clog will cause the chamber to overload with pressure, just like any other automatic. You also cannot shoot underwater, because primers will not ignite underwater. You can, however, get the rifle wet and expect it to fire. The AK jams just like any other automatic, it just jams a lot less than most (especially the diva M16).
The M14 is essentially an M1 with an external magazine and selective rate of fire, chambered in 7.62×51mm. 7.62×51mm NATO is still much more powerful than the 7.62×39mm Russian, which is scarcely more powerful than the 5.56 NATO. Both NATO rounds are ballistically superior to the Russian. The 7.62 NATO also has much better penetration than the Russian, which is imperative when fighting an enemy who is using light cover or body armor.
Summary: AK and M14 are roughly equal in reliability, but M14 is more accurate, more powerful, has greater range and penetration. The AK allows you to carry a little bit more ammo, arguably, but that is the only advantage it holds
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:14amI cannot imagine Iran feeling threatened and wanting to strike at us. I mean its not like we have surrounded them in bases, by March will have almost 100k in troops around them and 3 aircraft carriers off their coast.
No matter what anyone says, we are starting this war. Look I dont like Muslims, I dont trust them, but we are causing this conflict. I mean we are using the same playbook we did against Iraq. Do you people want another war? Another operation that kills 100k civilians? Causes more hate towards us? Are you ready for 1 of our soldiers to die in that worthless desert? Are you ready to pay for another 10 year plus occupation? Are you ready for the BLOWBACK that it will eventually cause?
Remember in 1998 Osama bin Laden said on CBS he was going to bring the war to our soil because we occupied Muslim lands. Mainly pointed out Saudi Arabia and that we killed 100k in children in Iraq. Here is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw&feature=related
All you Beck fans, he always says he believes the lefties because he listens to them “in their own words” right? Well their is Bin Laden in his own words practically telling us what he is going to do to us. Santorum wants more war, Gingrich wants more meddling and war, Romney wants more war.
DO YOU WANT MORE WAR?
We will dismantle Iran’s army in 2 days. The occupation and rebuilding is where we lose.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:25amYou are talking to Christian like Beck Zombies.. Don’t expect them to comprehend logic.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amI enjoy reading other people points of view, but as soon as I see words like “BLOW-BACK“ or ”NEOCON”, I immediately get turned off and disregard your post, because I know you are simply regurgitating what you hear on the Alex Jones show. I also know, from the use of these key words that you are a Ron Paul supporter. So, all I’m saying is, think for yourself, and if you believe these things, put it into your own words. The effectiveness of these catch phrases has worn out months ago.
Report Post »Turks
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amAnd therein is the mistake. We should not rebuild. If we do then what’s the sense of it all?
Report Post »Scooder
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:32amYep, all OUR fault, you %^$#%&*&(*%^.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:49am@ patriotnAmerica
Here is some logic for you. You apparently, are an atheist. As such, you endeavor to convince all others, including Christians like myself, that we are stupid and delusional, for having faith in God.
Here is where the logic comes in! If you are successful in convincing me there is no God, and there is no one to answer to when this life is over, I will then view life as having no purpose and will not worry about consequence. Knowing you are the person responsible for crushing my faith, you will be the first person I will kill. Think about that logic for a while !
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:49am@tranny
You do know that the term “blowback” came from the CIA reports and the 911 commission right?
Dont think I said neocon. Oh and you wont read information or debate a subject because of two words? Do you not have a counter idea? Its hard to debate facts.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:58am@scooder
I didnt blame us as Americans. I blame the progressive, globalists, and social engineers that put these type of polices into place. Osama bin Laden in his own words said what he was going to do and why. I am just not so stupid to not believe him.
Everyone says Ron Paul would put his head in the sand. You idiots are putting your head in the sand if you dont listen to the words the terrorist say.
Oh yeah we are broke also, borrowing money from our enemies to pay for roads and bridges in countries that hate us. GREAT PLAN!!!! HOW COULD THIS GO WRONG!!!!!
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:20pmObama would love an attack from Iran – either actually from Iran or a false flag attack. The Pro-war progressives Dems and Repubs are licking their chops hoping something happens; they have a lot invested in seeing perpetual wars. Look up ‘War is a Racket’ by Marine medal of honor winner Smedley Butler and you will see why all the elite want and love war.
Anyone remember this gem
Mark Penn says Obama needs another Oklahoma City
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PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:49pmTyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:49am
That was funny. No I‘m not an atheist and I’m not trying to destroy anones faith. I’m simply sickened by what I see in the Christian community today. The eagerness for War and the overall ignorance of the Bible and the World. It’s really sad.
You want to send the women and children of Iran some more of the love bombs which you sent in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc? In order to help them along in their democracy of course right?
Hey and if you do lose your faith don’t be so fast to kill me… talk to me first. You may like me. I really don‘t have any enemies that I’m aware of in the real world.. lol Besides I’m probably bigger stronger and wiser than you! ;) jk
Report Post »lvjohn
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:13amIf our so called President had any balls he would melt those sand monkeys, but he has no balls.
Report Post »DD313
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amGov. Christie would call his condition “numbnuts”.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:13amOh lets just stick our head in the sand with Ron Paul. It will be alright………….
Report Post »Paul’s “Ostrich Policy” for dealing with Iran and others.
SychinLegacy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:17amHey buddy. Where is the CONCRETE EVIDENCE that they are going to attack us. Some guy from the state department or the CIA is NOT concrete. That is called hearsay and would be tossed out in the court of law. So it‘s not good enough for court but it’s more than enough to go to war? Take a step back and look at the police and fear state the government has built around you.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amLOL, yeah head in the sand and starting the recovery of our economy. Oh and all the while still having the strongest military in the world by far and still spending 4 times as much as the second in military spending China.
Oh no, we dont have 900 bases in 130 countries and we are actually can not borrow from our only two real threats China and Russia. Yeah Russia is buying our debt also.
You always bash Ron Paul but you never explain how Iran could remotely hurt us. Or any country for that matter.
We have more than enough nukes to whip the world out many times over.
We have the only real super navy in the world. We have 11 aircraft carrier battlegroups. The next closest country to that number is 0. No one has one.
We have the most advanced air force in the world. No one even comes close.
We have the most advanced ground military in the world. They are battle hardened but tired. We have been at constant war for over 20 years.
We have super advanced spy satellites.
Then you add to the fact we are not a easy logistical country to attack.
Oh and on Iran another advantage we have is we can make our own gasoline. LOL, us fighting them is the equivalent of a professional MMA fighter beating up a 2nd grader.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:33am@Rational Man would rather continue to provoke Iran to war and then blame Iran for reacting with war.
Rational Man isn’t very rational. If 500 “Paulies” surrounded Rational Man’s house and sanctioned his household due to his irrational remarks, Rational Man would react and probably violently. We “Paulies” would be RESPONSIBLE for provoking Rational Man’s reaction, regardless of it.
@okiemuskogee33
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:00pmMARTINEZ:
Report Post »What’s this WE crap. They have their leader in our White House. That means they have the most powerful military in the world.
Rational Man
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:07pm@Okie from Muskogee
I normally don’t respond to you because you are a hopeless idiot, but I will just give a partial answer to your stupid annalogy.
There would be no need to sanction me or “surround” me or warn me. Because I wouldn’t be threatening to destroy intire nations, support terrorism around the world, threaten to use military action to close the Straight of Hormuz to hammer the economies of the effected nations, be guilty of grose human rights violations, building nuclear bombs to kill millions of people, sending a psycopath to tell lies and rant uncontrolably at the UN, or any other of the numerous things that Iran has done to provoke and garner the negative attention that they deserve and are now recieving. So your ignorant annalogy is flaud from the start. Just like your blind, delusional and ignorant support of Ron Paul.
Report Post »I feel dirty just replying to such a ridiculous fool…………………..
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:33pm@Rational Man
You threaten and mock Ron Paul supporters enough we could find sanctioning your house a valid action to marginalize your threat until you cease and desist. Regardless of whether Iran has done anything right or wrong, a reaction will occur and a reaction is the intent of sanctions therefore SANCTIONS CAUSE the REACTION.
You cannot rational defend your position because your “rational” thinking is flawed.
If I kick you in the nuts, you will react. Who’s responsible for causing the reaction, whether crying or a kick back?
If I hump your wife and you burn my house down, who’s to blame for my house burning down?
A hopeless idiot would be one who is too much of a coward or too stupid to take responsibility for their actions and actions they cause.
Every action has a reaction. It is not rocket science!
You don‘t reply because you can’t without sounding even more stupid than you already do….
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:54pm@Okie from Muskogee
I know you freaks hate it when I say this, but all that is needed is to read your last post for me to say,
Report Post »”I REST MY CASE”. Your too stupid to even pay any attention to. Twisted logic and word games is all you Paulistians have as a defense for Paul and his “Ostrich Policy”. That is why you are widely regarded as fruitcakes and not taken seriously and can’t win the presidency. Struggle all you want, you will never attain relevence.
Sucks to be you!…………………….
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:23pm@Rafional Man
Again, you cannot defeat the logic and rational post so you resort to your natural Progressive Alinsky distractions.
Thank you for proving my point.
Grow up little kid, get some nuts, and learn to be responsible. Mommy ain’t always goona be there to blame everyone else for your screw ups and actions. Your foreign policy is similar to OWS, blame every one else. Grow up!
You display the finest example of the arrogant irresponsible American attitude the world views us as having and despises.
Grow up!
http://www.non-intervention.com @okiemuskogee33
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:28pmRATIONAL MAN. This guy OKIE FROM MUSKOGEE offers up some pretty good Ron Paul spin. Almost makes me a believer! Okay, well, not really.
On the other hand, if Ron Paul could articulate the same way OKIE does… well, he might makes us believers! Okay, well, not really.
The obvious phantoms in Ron Paul’s head has and will again prevent him from attaining the gold standard in our national politics… especially as the GOP nominee (the Democrat that he is). But he figured it was his last chance, he’s got enough rubes to send him cash… so why not?
I understand where you’re coming from in regards to Paul. He’s more progressive than Obama in his foreign policy proclivities. Even though this dude has been around longer than methuselah… his Libertarian thought process is way too simplistic and naive to give him any real consideration past a job at the entrance to the local town theater collecting money from the kiddies for the afternoon matinee. Okay, well, maybe the bigger theater just inside the city limits.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:43pm@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Yep!….23yrs in government and nothing to show for it but a bunch of rag-tag anarchist dope heads for followers. One bill passed out of six hundred and twenty that he dreamed up while enhaling laughing gas in his doctors office. Paul and the Paulistians continue to ignore the facts when it comes to foreign policy and Paul literally takes the side of our‘s and Israel’s enemies.
http://blog.standforisrael.org/articles/ron-paul-gaza-is-like-a-concentration-camp?s_src=SFIEN&s_subsrc=EN11201XXEXXA
Paul says he’s a Christian,…..but then there is this,
http://patriotstatesman.com/2011/06/ron-pauls-homosexual-surprise-causes-exodus-of-faithful-followers-of-christ/
Ron Paul’s Long Record of Glorious Failures in Congress
Report Post »http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/ron-pauls-long-record-glorious-failures-congress/46661/
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:45pm@Time
“He’s more progressive than Obama in his foreign policy proclivities.”
I would love for you to show how non-intervention is “progressive”….You cannot because it’s utter nonsense.
Fact of the matter, intervention supported by Obama and GOP is Progressive foreign policy as seen championed under Wilson. The GOP has progressed that much.
Learn to tell the truth and speak substance instead of insults and lies. Now go kick rocks….
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:41pm“Go kick rocks?” Don’t take my word for it OKIE… read up on what admitted progressives describe Ron Paul when it comes to foreign policy.
Yes OKIE… Ron Paul’s foreign policy is more in line with what progressives have out-lined as their goals and what they look for in a leader (and this is according to them, read up on it).
To many progressives (not all), Ron Paul has some distasteful qualities… but when it comes to foreign policy in particular… your boy Ron (again according to them) is the cat’s meow and quite the progressive… they like that about him. He’s a progressive hero in their progressive foreign policy eyes. They put him over their other hero Obama almost 2-1 as the BIGGER progressive in this area. They love Paul’s progressive foreign policy ideas. They just dig your boy Ron the progressive.
Go pound sand…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:46pm@Rational Man
Are you talking about the audit the Fed bill Newt blocked or the removal from the UN Newt blocked? Why it surprises you a Constitutionalist had a hard time getting bills passed under Progressive leaders only shows you are not much of a thinker and come spouting your mouth leaving out major facts.
Example one: “Paul literally takes the side of our‘s and Israel’s enemies.”
You say Paul literally supports ours and Israel’s enemies yet he is against foreign aid and you support a candidate who wants to send our money, weapons, and troops to Israel’s enemies the Muslim Arabs.
So by supporting those who support sending aid, weapons and troops for defense to Muslim Nations you support Islam, Israel’s enemy and some say ours and are actually backing the creation of an Arab Muslim Caliphate.
You are definitely not a thinker and might want to work on that. Just sayin!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:08pm@Time
Pure garbage. To easy to show you for the liar you are.
Samantha Powers is someone you might want to check out since she champions PROGRESSIVE foreign policy of intervention on “humanitarian” concerns as seen in Libya.
“Progressive” useful idiots who oppose war are probably that stupid to say what you stupidly believed and repeated. Shows how sharp you are, like a tic tac.
Never heard of Woodrow Wilson or Wilsonian foreign policy? Read a book kid. Until then, stop lying and buzz off.
So you support Obama’s intervention foreign policy…..Wow….
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:15pm“So you support Obama’s intervention foreign policy…..Wow….” wrote OKIE.
I have no problem with Obama ordering the killing Radical Muslims… over there… wherever they hide.
Just like ordering the killing of Bin Laden and others who have aided him in the past, personally taken part in or are in the planning stages of harm of Americans… over there… preferably. Hell yes! Kill ‘em Obama!!
Until the GOP (which the Democratic leaning Libertarian Ron Paul insults with his presence) gets Obama out of office… I have no problem with him ordering the killing of as many Radical Muslims his little heart desires.
Ron Paul’s Isolationist ideology is the ideology of pacifists and cowards.
You support Ron Paul’s pacifist, Isolationist and cowardly ideology? Of course you do…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:06pm@Time
I’m sure you do support Obama….No surprise there….
Isolationist? How dumb. Isolationists would be the people isolating countries they don’t like and refusing to speak to them.
Pacifiers would be ones that pander to Arab Islamists like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan by sending them our dollars, weapons, and troops in order to receive oil and “intel”.
Cowards would be those who call for sanctions and then act irresponsible by blaming the recipient for reacting.
By saying cowardly, pacifist, and isolationist you described the very policies you support.
You displayed quite well you do not know what we are fighting nor why as well that you have no honor. No surprise again that you support Obama!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 8:04pmBwa-ha-ha-ha-ha OKIE. Seems you’ve run out of steam. Tell me… how many Paul supporters went and actually voted for Obama in 2008? Don’t know? Thousands. Why? Because many Paul supporters thought Obama’s was going to be just as progressive with his foreign policy as Ron Paul would be. Boy are those Paul groupies (maybe you for all we know) disappointed in Obama the Radical Muslim killer!!
Paul is a fringe “con” artist who aligns himself with fringe leftists, progressives and liberals more often than not. Paul sides with terrorists and traitors.
Paul is no Conservative. Paul is a coward. Paul is a traitor to America. Anyone who supports Paul must also be a coward and a traitor.
Are you a coward and traitor OKIE? If not… re-think your support the leftist, progressive and liberal-tarian ideology of Ron Paul and come over to the side of American loving Conservatives.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:19pm@Time
The only one blowing hot air is you….
You don’t know who voted for what and are so full of crap you are stopped up.
Killing Muslims? I don’t care what ones faith is, if you are an enemy of the US war should be declared, defined, and won, not a broad authorization to declare war when one desires, on whom one desires, like a dictator and Obama whom you support.
Sides with traitors, fringe leftists, progressives and liberals – didn’t you just say you support Obama? You speak of yourself, you are aligned with Obama a progressive fringe leftist traitor.( You might want to rethink your little rant now)
The only coward is you. Cowards hide behind lies and distractions and you are mastering it and showing us all what you are about. Thank you.
Honor-Few have it. You definitely, do not.
Take care.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:12am.
If they attack will Ya’ll Please put me in charge? So we can play Coonass & Muslims……
If Ya’ll would turn over the War on Terror to me and all the Coon Ass & Red Neck Deer hunters. We could get this thing wrapped up by Valentines Day.
Step 1. Declare Open Season on Terrorist’s (that means all ya’ll cause you look alike)
2. There will be no bag limit.
3. $1000 dollar bounty.
4. Inform the hunters the Terrorist’s hate Mama, the Baby Jesus, the U.S.A., pick-up trucks & country music.
And the final nail in their coffin: The Terrorist are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt…..
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:16amDon’t forget, they also taste like chicken..
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:17amDon’t forget, they taste like chicken…
Report Post »Harry Assenback
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:18amLoading the Air Boat now…….I nominate Central Florida as the Command Post.
Report Post »stoptheliesbho
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:20amCouldn’t have devised a better plan… HAHAHA!!
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amI said it before and I’ll say it again;
Report Post »Everyone makes fun of Rednecks until they need something killed or fixed.
TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:35am@ Spankdamonkey
Report Post »Man, I am envious, you never seem to get censored, but when I try to use the word ******* in a rant, they delete my post. Do you know someone on the inside ?
LOTO
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:46am@Tyrannynomore Not only was your post scrubbed the ENTIRE conversations are gone.
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:19pm.
@TyrannyNoMore
There is no need to be envious. I don’t get censored because I never say anything controversial…….
Dude, I get censored all the time. Like yesterday when I said Michell should have spent the $50k on a Mask instead of Panties……
Besides Fancy Panties look better on the floor………
Report Post »4merhipie
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:50pmCan you please run for president SPANKDAMONKEY!!!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:54pm.
Report Post »I’m trying to get Glenn on a SpankDaMonkey/Beck 2012 ticket. It’s not to late……
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:12amAs obama stands idly by…. or worse…..
Report Post »bigspike
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 4:10pmthat’s un-fayurrrrrrrrrrrr…i hear that any day now dear comrade community organizer is planning to issue a STRONGLY worded apology
Report Post »WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:12amHere comes the ‘don’t let a good crisis go to waste’. We shove the stick in the cobra’s nest, rattle it around a bit, and then are surprised it gets ticked off. Now watch how the media is going to ‘sell’ the reasons why we need to start another war. Do you REALLY think this is over nuclear weapons? More like OIL. Don‘t get me wrong I don’t like Iran much but the corruption/manipulation of this situation is just plain obvious.
Report Post »liberalescheisskopf
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amOh right. We got SOOOOO much oil out of Iraq.
Report Post »Guitar Master
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:12amzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
From THE REPORTER
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Many people on this post are overconfident when they mock the people in the photo.
They mocked the Viet Cong too but everyone remember‘s’ what happened there.
Let’s stop the childish comments folks – this is too serious to be kidding about.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:22amNot a bad point.
Report Post »Most of the loudest posters (not all) here wear pajamas with feet and eat cookies and milk at 3pm.
If you have never stared down the barrel of a gun held by someone intent on putting you in the ground, you might want to tone it down a bit.
The dirtbags in the picture (and they are dirtbags) are serious and they are trained to kill you.
It’s not a video game.
mcwes3
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:41amThing is who cares who takes over Iran. No nation building this time just nation busting. Give them 24 hrs notice that were coming in that the civilians need to get out of the country till were done. Flatten the whole place. Then give it back to them. Done.
Report Post »Black Conservative
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:11amFlaming Dandies..LOL!!!
Report Post »crazyoz
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:09amBring it on Iran. But please wait until we have a president that is pro American.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:09amThey declared war on American in 1979.
We should begin bombing.
Also, rounding up and deporting muslims would be a prudent move.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:18amWow, ok, lets deport lefties also, then lets deport all socialists, then deport the unemployed, then deport the mean people, then deport the terrorist labeled (tea party), then deport the bankers, then deport all Spanish people, then we can deport all dark people.
Everyone dislikes some group, you open up the flood gates by deporting people based on religion. You deport people for their actions and nothing more or less.
Report Post »Diablo4965
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:30amHey Martinez we don’t even deport illegals for thier criminal actions what fantasy world are you living in.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:32amMARTINEZ:
Report Post »You started out on a roll, then just sort of petered off.
martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:51amIf you didnt get the point of the post I am sorry. The point was, you cannot deport people for religion in a free country. When you start acting like that we are no different than our enemies.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:08pm@martinez012577
“If you didnt get the point of the post I am sorry. The point was, you cannot deport people for religion in a free country. When you start acting like that we are no different than our enemies.”
Actually, they do not deport, they kill infidels. There has been going on a targeting of secret christian cells in Iran, and a lot of people have been crane hanged for trumpeted up crimes..
The problem is, we will have to deal with the more radical elements of muslims at some point, it’s not matter of if but when. If we can’t deport them, we will have to kill them. I suppose that you’ll wait until you have no choice, be killed or to kill. I prefer somewhat proactive approach, don’t like killing that much.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:18pm@twobyfour
How many Muslims have gone nuts in your neighborhood? Look I dont want to live near one, but as long as they are following the Constitution I have no issue with them. They are American citizens, the post was talking about deporting Muslims. I am not for deporting anyone that is following the law and Constitution. Once we start making those choices and a guy like Obama gets in office, then guess who gets deported next.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:09amLet’s go first!!!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:13amWe owe these guys a couple of big boys from the 70s when we had a gutless president. Maybe we could finally pay the debt.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:45amI wonder if we could pay off the debt if we auctioned off pieces of the black rock in Mecca?
Report Post »closedgonefishing
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:08amTern Tehran into the parking lot for Disneys new Aladin land.
Report Post »Acting Man
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:08amThe U.S. intel: Iran is prepared to launch terrorist attacks inside the United States in response to perceived threats from America and its allies.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:30pmAll your relatives & friends need situational awareness. They need to behave as though they are military living overseas in Europe or elsewhere & have their head on a swivel.
If you ask them to do that most of them will think you committable up until the point it actually happens.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:06amI wonder if we’ll round up iranians and put them in camps like we did the japanese and germans?
Seriously though…with this PC administration we have, iranian acts of terrorism should be easy to carry out. After each one happens, Obama & Holder will demand that all pale, red haired, blue eyed males between the age of 18 & 40 be detained and questioned.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:26pmI’ll give you a hint. It is highly un-PC word, but here it is: profiling.
Report Post »Phoneguy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:05amWhat is stopping them, lets get it on.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:13amI would prefer a REAL American President .. not the current one who is Un-American.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:04amFear fear fear fear, got to keep the boogeyman fresh in the mind, else why would we cower under the basement stairs with a gun in our hand, shooting at shadows in the twilight?
I’m so tired of the culture of fear, both from the Left and the Right. Every adult year of my political life I’ve heard about a spectre lurking right around the corner out to get me and have been extolled to give up another liberty or send people off to die as a result.
We’re being riled up to make the “king makers” all happy that they have “public support” to engage in their vile craft. Or do people think that the nefarious sniveling little progressives (left and right) that we all despise domestically are pure as driven snow when dealing with the rest of the world.
I’ve had enough of the fear crap. What attacks we’ve seen are the direct result of our king makers ticking people off around the world. Left to their own devices folks generally want to live their lives and raise families. You only get hornets nests when you go in and meddle in their business.
Fear fear fear. Thanks, but no thanks. Politicians have created the world we live in, let them sacrifice their own blood on the field instead of ours. Otherwise, this looks like the beginning of a nice October Surprise moment. Again.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:13am@ GhostOfJefferson
You might be right – its a way of getting our minds off of whats really going on.
Report Post »calisun
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:16amI like you.
Report Post »Harry Assenback
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:20amJoel Rosenberg “Inside the Revolution” -Great Book.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:31amWas it the boogeyman who smuggled all the explosive into Afghanistan that blew the arms and legs off our troops? Don’t blame it on our presence there either. They have wanted our blood for a very long time.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:37amBingo! If we are afraid of Iran we are STUPID! Israel can take them out in about 5 minutes….It’s just pure fearmongering for money by the UN
Does anyone even remember the Iraqi soldiers fainting, running and surrendering when attacked? They were burning their uniforms and putting on their Pajamas when they saw an army coming toward them…They were supposed to be so fierce too! Muslims are cowards! You think Iranians will be different?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:59am@Gonzo
Ok, so don’t mention that we were in a foreign nation when foreign people bombed us. Got it. Thanks.
Fear. Not having it any longer. Sorry.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:23pmGhostOfJefferson
Yes the troops in Kuwait Oman & Saudi Arabia were real menacing.
Some of them wore powder blue UN helmets & were ensuring that Iraq did not invade Kuwait. Yes that was real intimidating to Iran & Usama. Have you met people who served on UN peacekeeping missions?
Are we to give up our base in Bahrain. It was there because of the Iran – Iraq war& both side were taking shots at oil tankers. We’;re suppose to monitor the Persian gulf from Australia or Los Angles? If the sea lanes are not open & are not safe, then see what happens to the economies of our trading partners & the U.S.
You know how high maritime insurance is? You know how high it would be without the U.S. Navy?
Without a U.S. Navy the Somalis could close the Hormuz straights & they have less than most American street gangs.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:43pm@Walkabout
I have no idea what your post had to do with mine. Where did I mention U.N., blue helmets or anything you bring up, please?
Maybe some folks don’t mind being trained to have 5 Minute Hate Sessions against Goldberg every day. I find the very thought revolting. Personally, I prefer the sound advice of George Washington in his farewell address, regarding foreign policy. Not following that sage wisdom has left us with a world of “enemies”, both real and imagined. You folks have let yourself be convinced that perpetual war is a good thing. As long as we continue to send our sniveling progressives out to conduct international relations, we’ll continue to both build up, then eventually fight, groups around the world. And of course, the requisite cues given to the sheep will be bleated dutifully back “Two feet bad, four feet good” (or more aptly, “We’ve always been at war with Eurasia!”) and drown out all rational discourse or self examination.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:56pmKey word saber rattling, meaning nothing is going to come of it and why is it fear?
Lack of info would make me fearful.
I guess you won’t be here much longer? lol
People, including yourself, feed off of this stuff and you know it or you would not be replying to others. You love this…LOL
Having a weak president, again, allowed all of this mess…and the media makes money off it. If it bleeds it leads, but only after the fact. Of all of the terrorists caught how many are from Iran so far…how many…I dunno but this caught my attention.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-iran-tied-terror-plot-washington-dc-disrupted/story?id=14711933
“The new case, called Operation Red Coalition, began in May when an Iranian-American from Corpus Christi, Texas, approached a DEA informant seeking the help of a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate the Saudi ambassador, according to counter-terrorism officials.”
The story isn’t complete but it is being followed up on by the FEDs
Our gov’t is saying it…
Peace, Out.
Report Post »NO FEAR
Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:01pmWashington did not deal with or have to deal with the Barbary Pirates like Jefferson did.
Our bases in Kuwait, Saudi, Oman, Bahrain were the result of the Iran-Iraq tanker war & the 1991 invasion of Kuwait. It wasn’t part of some desire for continuous war making.
Out bases in Iran in 1979 were to keep tabs on the USSR. Not to keep countries surrounding Iran in line of something nefarious like that.
People I know who were station in there were involved with radar installation. You know surveellence, not suppressing the local or neighboring populace.
Got watch out for those radar operators, they usually go on wampages & commit atrocities. They have all the heavy weaponry you see & take wean they want form the locals with brute force due to their large overwhelming numbers..
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:21pm@Walkabout
You write as if I haven’t studied the small event with the Barbary Pirates. As far as I know, we didn’t declare perpetual war on the middle east as a result of it.
Your military references don’t impress me. I was SIGINT military intelligence in the field. Nothing you point out is something that’s going to silence me in some kind of semi-religious respect. Sorry.
And Kuwait was slant drilling guy, and the U.N. gracefully “redrew” the Iraqi border at the time to accomodate the Kuwait sheiks. We had no business there in the first place, and if we’d left them alone, at worst Kuwait would be part of Iraq again and…nothing else.
But that’s neither here nor there. Maybe you want a world of perpetual enemies lurking in the shadows that keep you in war fervor. I’ve grown tired of it. We’re being played as fools by smirking progressives regarding foreign policy, and I for one am done playing. Want fear? You’re welcome to it, but I won’t be joining you.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:04pmGHOST. Washington’s idea of neutrality was based in part on the complete inability of the U.S. to back up its foreign policy. But even in that case he did not say in his address that we should forever stay away from any foreign involvement.
Here is the key section of his address:
“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.
To warn Americans against “permanent alliances” really should go without saying. Decades later a fast friend of the United States basically said the same thing when he said there are “no eternal allies” and “no perpetual enemies” for any nation.
Washington went on to say, though, that sometimes we must form alliances. “Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture,” he wrote, “we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.”
Obviously he understood that always staying neutral as Paul and [most other liberals] maintain… is not possible. It should also be realized that this was Was
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:11pmCon’t….
…was Washington’s (and Hamilton’s) vision. The farewell address was not an explication of standard practice even when it was written, but Washington’s ideals. Many founders disagreed with this vision. So to act like an isolationist policy was a singular founding principle is a horrible misread of history.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:36pmSee, the choice isn’t this, friend:
You’re either A) Somebody who believes we should strike other nations first, just in case or B) total isolationist.
That false choice was set up by Wilsonians, and I’ll have none of it, thank you very much. If you wish to advocate a cowardly bully foreign policy, by all means do so. I’ll retain my quainte American tradition of not running around kicking others first.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:02amClapper added that “We are also concerned about Iranian plotting against U.S. or allied interests overseas.”
Gosh Clapper, you think?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:51amJust hope they don’t car bomb a Walmart near you. Walmart is as symbolic of American commerce as hitting a mall would be.
In a Tom Clancy novel Islamo-terrorists shot up a mall. There was a person arrested, convicted & incarcerated for planning exactly that. He was Somali & he crossed the Southern border illegally. the targeted mall was in Ohio. Point is is that people, Americans & terrorists, have thought that terrorists would hit a shopping mall. If malls are locked down they will move onto the next softest target with terror potential, Walmart.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:58pmWallyWorld has deep ties with China.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 3:43pmWhen ethnic Chinese died due to Kmer Rouge policies in Cambodia, China supported Pol Pot. I am sure the Chinese oligarchy would be content to reap profits form trad with Walmart on one hand & on the other hand support Iran if it ordered Hizboallah to attack such targets in the U.S.
Watcha ya say to that?
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:02amIs this what obam and holder wants? Maybe
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:02amIran has been ready for a decade. Nothing has changed. How about some concrete evidence before we go start bombing them is that too much to ask?
Report Post »Diablo4965
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:06amYes.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:08amLet’s reduce the military and then start another war. Brilliant.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amU.S. Troops massing on the Islands of Socotra & Masirah?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:29amBut if troops were massing on Socotra & CNN didn’t report it, then it never happened.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 11:34amMasirah
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/masirah.htm
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:24pmtrue. And while Israel is our friend, we must hold them accountable to how they treat others in the region. A lot of my brothers and sisters are so hopped up on Hagee, if you will, and we forget what Jesus taught. We know all about judgement of nations…yet we forget about ourselves. We could learn a lot from Jesus. However, we want our kingdom on earth. I pray for a return to reformed theology. Bless all. He is near.
Report Post »Joan Dalton-Carr
Posted on February 1, 2012 at 6:48pm..Does anyone really believe anything Clapper Jim or The Obama Administration has to say??They have been provoking Iran,non stop..This is all propaganda to justify Obama’s agenda..
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