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Utah Movie Theater Fined for Showing ‘The Hangover Part II’

Utah Movie Theater Fined for Showing The Hangover Part II

SALT LAKE CITY (The Blaze/AP) — A Utah movie theater has been fined more than $1,600 for showing “The Hangover Part II” while serving alcohol to patrons.

The state‘s liquor board says Salt Lake City’s Brewvies theater falls under the same laws that govern strip clubs, which are prohibited from having fully nude dancing if they serve alcohol.

The board says the fine was warranted because of explicit scenes in the movie showing female, male and transvestite nudity. Other scenes that violated state law included a monkey simulating a sex act.

Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control Director Francine Giani (jee-AH’-nee) says she will recommend fines be lowered for future offenses. Currently, repeat offenders may be fined up to $25,000, and could lose their liquor license for up to 10 days.

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:30am

    The more one is exposed to wickedness the more one participates.

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    • espiegle
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:28pm

      that is a statement made by the wicked to justify their lack of morals.

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    • FranciscoDAnconia
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:06pm

      If you want to talk about the constitution than lets talk about the 10th amendment remember that?

      “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

      Utah has half the problems that most other states face because of its smart morale laws which it has imposed. You can chant all day long that we should allow people to do whatever they feel like on any given day of the week. The reality of the situation is that there are social costs involved that everyone collectively has to pay for. So don’t act like you are some freedom loving genius and that anybody that wants any morale guide in their state is simply idiotic. Its ludicrous to think that we can legalize all behaviors and not have dramatic social consequences that impact everyones liberties.

      When casinos come into town they cause widespread addictions and immoral degradation that has social impacts on many. Who pays for these addicts that are homeless? Do we leave them in the street to fend for themselves? Who incarcerates addicts that have broke the law? The people do right? So if we the people have to pay for these social consequences than yes we will create laws to protect our wallets and other peoples bad decisions.

      Please take your uninformed illogical crazy thoughts to some other libertarian forum.

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    • CheyenneTrk
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:05pm

      @FranciscoDAnconia, while one’s version or immoral behavior may be valid to them, it may not be to another. What does the word “Freedom” mean? Should we ban all forms of indecency? And if we do, just who decides what is or is not indecent? While i will agree, that certain behaviours are directly related to certain morals or the lack thereof, if you start banning things, ideas, property, actions based on someone’s idea of indecency, you have no freedoms. It will create a society where everyone is taught to think the same thing, act the same, dress the same for fear of retribution. Isnt that why we are fighting Sharia Law? Islamic Fundimentalism? Radicalism?
      There will always be those in any society that will abuse what they have to the point of addiction, regardless of wether or not it‘s illegal or immoral in someone’s views. Your responsibility is to educate and inform, not kill those that do not think as you.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:59pm

      You are so right FranciscoDAnconia, let’s just allow states to ban Free Speech if this condition is met, or if that condition is met. This post has the 100% official Barrack Hussain Obama stamp of approval!

      Up is down, down is up. Tyranny is beautiful, freedom is ugly!

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:37pm

      I love it when people leave their life story instead of COMMENTS!!!!

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    • Left of Libertarian Right of Republican
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:24am

      You are absolutely right! People should ONLY have freedom of sppech as long as that speech is the same as yours! Freedom of religion as long as that religion is yours! Right to bear arms as long as those arms are the kind you think they should be! Freedom of the press as long as the press only prints what you think is right, morally or otherwise! Freedom of assembly as long as the assembly is sactioned and permited by the state! I KNOW the constitution says all that SOMEWHERE! Yeah, I know, it is the Constitution of IRAN!!! -smh-

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    • Darren
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:34am

      Bullcacadetector;

      “You are so right FranciscoDAnconia, let’s just allow states to ban Free Speech if this condition is met”.

      While‘ I’d definitely oppse such laws, as well as the vast majority of ameircans, states should absolutely have its own sovereign power to regulate speech or whatever they want. You’d agree if you believe in federalism. Big central government control over the states does far more to impede your individual natural freedom than does federalism.

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    • theaveng
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:40pm

      I DON’T SEE ANY LAW BROKEN HERE.

      The law forbids dancers and alcohol in the same location. But there were NO dancers present. Just light flickering on the screen. So this case will likely be thrown-out once it gets before judge.
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  • olddog
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:26am

    Here we go again with absolutely No Common Sence.. I’m sure the law was written with the meaning of Live people not movies…Drunks can’t enteract with movies they can with real people, either way the government needs to stay the h#ll out of our lives…If we just got rid of Stupid there’d be no government left…

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  • foobear
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:25am

    This is why Mormon church-states and Blue Laws in general are ridiculous.

    Also, not being able to buy liquor except in state-run stores, with nothing over 3% in grocery stores and no sales on Sundays.

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    • Midwest Blonde
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:29am

      Not all counties in Utah are “dry” on Sunday. When I lived there, we often made “beer runs” to the next county. I know that since I left there, there are “beer bars” and “private clubs” where you can either bring your own booze or purchase mixed drinks. Not sure if it’s still the same or not.

      In Tennessee, the county were Jack Daniels is made is a dry county. The only JD you can buy in that county is souvenir decanters (filled of course) but that’s a recent change. Tennessee has many dry counties.

      States have different laws. For example, in West Virginia (when I lived there) you can buy wine and beer in a grocery store. However, to get hard liquor, one had to go to a liquor store (I don’t think they were state owned). There were so few liquor stores where I lived, I always went to Maryland (closer than the nearest WV Liquor store) to get my booze.

      Here in Nebraska, if a store has a liquor license, they can sell it all. (Even Walmart has a section of booze). In Wyoming, you can buy beer at drive up windows of the liquor store – never bought anything else so I’m not sure what they will sell at the window)

      So don‘t slam one state for it’s laws – other states are just as strange.

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    • FranciscoDAnconia
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:17pm

      Explain why thats a bad idea? Should we be more like Mexico where you can sale beer to anyone who is old enough to walk? Should we have liquor stores on every corner? I don’t think so. Utah is one of the best states to live in. Should we have porn stores on every corner so we can please you libertarian lovers. What about all the twisted freaks that spawn from porn stores? Should we welcome their bad decisions as well? If their is direct causation that shows that casinos and porn stores create more addicts and criminals should we allow them to exist in our city or state? No I don’t think so. We will sit by and watch Las Vegas, San Francisco and other cities and states make that mistake. You can sit by all you want and hope that these social consequences won’t impact your state but it will. What happens when your state isn’t family friendly because of immorality? Families won‘t want to live their which makes means businesses won’t expand there. They will go somewhere else where people want to live. Environments help economies grow. People want to live in clean cities where their children will grow up around good citizens. Call it whatever you want to call it but Utah is one of the most successful states in the union.

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    • 9635kari
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:16pm

      Gee yeah Foobear, it really sucks here in Utah with all these rules!! I hate living in a State with the fewest incidents of cancer! I hate living in State where teen pregnancy statistics are nearly at the bottom! I hate living in a State where crime is low!! If we would just get rid of these blue laws and a religion that teaches morality and ethics, just think what an even better State I could live in…FOOBEAR! You moron!

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    • CheyenneTrk
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:20pm

      @FranciscoDAnconia, Yes, Utah for the most part is a nice place to live. If you don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t like anything other than PG rated films, and want to live in a fantasy that only the religious rightous have a right to exist. Like other societies that attempt to control the masses thru laws such as Blue Laws, they only manage to HIDE the addicted and less desirables in their society. If you see UTAH as such fantasy land, it’s becuase you choose not to see the problems. I have partied with more Mormons and Catholics on wild nights, in UTAH SLC specifically, than Vegas could ever match. lol Just becuase you refuse to see it, does not mean it is not there.
      As for growth for Business? That’s a laugh. Utah hasn’t changed in the last 10 years. I’m stil picking up freight from the same companies that have always been there. I’ve seen more growth in Texas than anywhere else in the country. So you, my friend, are full of it.

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    • Darren
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 1:30am

      Cheyen;

      “I have partied with more Mormons and Catholics on wild nights, in UTAH SLC specifically, than Vegas could ever match. lol Just becuase you refuse to see it, does not mean it is not there.”

      Doesn’t that refute saying, “Yes, Utah for the most part is a nice place to live. If you don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t like anything other than PG rated films, and want to live in a fantasy that only the religious rightous have a right to exist,”?

      Utah definitely has a party element within it. Laws will not eliminate this, people’s choices will. What laws do is discourage or encourage certain behaviors. When state laws prohibit liquor and sexuality those behaviors tend to drop, not increase. “Do what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody” laws and mindset, in my view, are very destructive.

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  • rogue operator
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:12am

    Gee, and I thought Prohibition was over.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:44am

      I would love to see prohibition.. just think no addictions to alcohol..no drunk drivers.. no families destroyed by it.. etc etc etc!!

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    • Trance
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:28pm

      Yeah Abbygirl, I bet that’s what they were thinking when they made drugs illegal. No addiction, no family problems, everything peachy…

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Or when the ACTUAL prohibition was going on. Good thing alcohol was so hard to get then and no one was able to drink.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:47pm

      Abby…
      I guess your history is a bit fuzzy..Prohibition was tried, it led to an increase in the problem and created a booming organized crime business. The same way the prohibition on drugs has boosted criminal activity across the world. People need to quit being raised to be so pathetic and weak. Self control and personal responsibility are the most important traits for people in a free society.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:09pm

      ABBYGIRL,, how is that any different than totalitarianism/Socialism/Fascism/Marxism ect cetera?

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  • Big Orange
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:05am

    Thank goodness we have government to protect us from ourselves. Adults should never be able to decide for themselves about alcohol and naked people, that’s what government is for. Geez.

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    • SREGN
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:24pm

      I’m with ya, Big. That’s what the rating system is for, to give guidance on content. I saw H2 and it was way, way, over the top. But the decision of whether to see a movie should be made buy the one who will be purchasing the ticket, not the government.

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    • 9635kari
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:18pm

      So, are you saying that a free society should set no laws or boundaries on its citizens? You lefties and your sacred cows look idiotic!!!

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  • Mamazing1
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:04am

    Things like this that turn our country into a NANNY STATE are just as liberal as anything from the Weather Underground. If you really support laws like this, you need your head examined.

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    • motherof18
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:46am

      Yeah well it’s mostly conservatives who enact these type of laws.

       
    • IamEvilHomer
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:01am

      i have little problems with local government setting laws like this. The feds no so much

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  • sbenard
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:59am

    They’re selling alcohol in a movie theater? Now that’s likely to have a positive outcome, isn’t it? NOT! Those theater owners would probably sell their teenage daughters as prostitutes if they could make a buck! Sick people!

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:45am

      Nice and irrational hyperbole. Selling alchohol in theaters is fairly common. These aren’t the big multiplexes you are thinking of. Small theaters usually are involved. In some larger one the alchohol is reserved for a special section.

      Do you think the same thing about beer sold at ball games?

      If you’re going to make an argument for prohibition just be honest about it.

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    • Leader1776
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:05am

      @Islesfordian
      And have you seen the brawls at football games? Philadelphia had a court in the stadium. The beatings that are becoming more violent at baseball and football games. The reason that beer sales stop well before the end of the game. An anything goes mindset has serious consequences.

      I’m all for a small government ……. unfortunately, that too has consequences.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:31am

      The brawls at football games did not exist twenty and thirty years ago. They‘ve been selling beer at ball games longer than I’ve been alive and there weren’t these problems until recently. Our society is breaking down, but that breakdown can’t be connected to beer at stadiums. Something else is responsible.

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    • FranciscoDAnconia
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:08pm

      obviously none of you have ever been to Utah. Not only does Utah have one of the best states for businesses, but it has one of the best standard of livings. So for all you freedom loving freaks out there check out San Francisco where people walk around nude. Thats freedom right? Why don’t we get rid of all rules how does that sound?

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  • jcldwl
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:48am

    Who even bothers to go see these ridiculous Hollywood garbage films anyway?

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  • alabamaslammer
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:45am

    The fine is for “ nude ” and “ alcohol ” being “ sold ” at the same place and on Sunday. That probably a pretty well know issue for business in Utah. My question in, who sells alcohol in a movie theater? Its like selling cigarettes in McyDs. Its not against the law (I think) but can we just have a little self control and some sort of social self regulation? Why do we have to check with law inforcement or legalI consul before making moral and ethical decisions? Cuase if we can‘t manage these simple issues without big brother then we really don’t have the right to rule ourselves.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:54pm

      In Europe the theaters have full stocked bars, in fact you can buy alcohol at the zoo and pretty much anywhere…They don’t seem to have the problem that the “land of the free” has with this. America has become a farce, a land of supposed freedom, where you really don’t have much at all. Can’t say this, can’t see that, oh no what are you smoking? Drinking and seeing naked people on a screen? Oh no the world is going to explode. People need to deal with their own lives and quit meddling in others.

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    • FranciscoDAnconia
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Again, to you freedom loving extremists there would be no morale codes whatsoever. You believe in moral relativism. You would legalize drugs, casinos, pornography, and every other detriment in the name of freedom. WHile that all sounds great what about the social consequences of such behaviors? Who pays for the damage control? The taxpayers do. The 10th amendment was created so that the states could be laboratories to test and to experiment with different ideas. Utah is one of the only states that does not allow gambling. There are many studies that link gambling with so many other social problems. It literally erodes society and breaks up families. What happens when families break down in society? Single moms raising kids. Have you ever lived in Vegas? There are so many single mothers living in cities like Las Vegas where men are subject to their vices and they forget their role. I am not saying that we are not responsible for choices. What I am saying is that you want to give people the best opportunity for success in society. If you expose children to pornography or drugs at a young age their opportunity for success is limited. You might say- well thats why there is age limits. Well how is that working for you. The answer is not legalizing every single behavior. How many families really want to live in San Francisco? Would you want your kids to see old nude guys? Well if you make them wear clothes than you are infringing on their rights. You don’t want to do that.

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    • joel228
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Well said FranciscoDAnconia. For liberals and libertarians I would add that the lack of laws on moral issues does not add to my freedom but takes away. Don’t I have God given rights to live in a society that I choose and that reflects my own values? Don’t I have a right to raise my kids in a such a society?

      Liberals are a lost cause but to the libertarians who preach the love of freedom what is so hard to see about that? I want to live in a society where I can drive home at night without the fear that every other driver is drunk and dangerous. I’d like my kids to be able to walk down the city streets without porn forced on them from every other display window. Don’t corral me in and claim a non existent right to every type of hedonistic display or behavior you can think of.

      Yes you go live in Sodom. Or go live in Gomorrah if you prefer but don’t take away my rights to be free from such pollution by claiming your own right to pollute.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:42am

    I guess we’re not a free country to make our own choices are we? Whether to see a movie or not. Whether to pay for Glenn Beck’s GBTV or not. All it did was sensationalize the movie and create hysteria over a stupid movie. Strip clubs? Big deal. I’m all for mug n jugs! Maybe boobs n brewz!

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  • Utahdrifter
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:34am

    U know what they say about computers–garbage in garbage out. Your mind works the same way. Put this kind of junk in and get this kind of junk out. Wake up world–we are being sold a bill of filth as happiness and we are dumb enough to accept it. Go see a good movie–“Courageous” . See what real people are making GOOD movies about.

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    • nuttyvet
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:50am

      @Utahdrifter – can you really dictate taste and preference? If someone wants to see a movie (albeit a hack comedy) then let them see it. It is called entertainment. What you deem as entertaining (Courageous) others see as an evangellical movie, poorly acted, and made with an underlying motive of spreading a particular religious ideology. What do you want next, a committee to determine what is art and what should be banned based on some BS moral law? Just sayin’

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:53am

      Words of wisdom from a NUTTYVET. This VET agrees.

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  • TomFerrari
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:29am

    How can he/she be naked AND a transvestite?
    LOL
    Seriously, though, the law is the law.
    If you don’t like the law, work to get it changed.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:01am

      It does seem to me that the law has been stretched here beyond its intent, and possible beyod its actual wordind. It was to prohibit alchohol being sold in strip clubs where nude dancers were present. Nudity on the screen is not quite the same thing. There are no nude persons actually there.

      I would fight this in court.

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    • kreese
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:02am

      Or move to a more “friendly” state!

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  • Constructionist
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:25am

    These laws are not unique to Utah. Most states have similar laws and penalties for strip clubs. For instance, there are clubs in Pennsylvania where the girls are totally nude; however, they cannot sell alcohol, it is a BYOB set up. Most clubs see the sale of alcohol as the main profit center. If the club actively sells alcohol, it is required by law to make the dancers wear pasties. Full nudity and alcohol is where the theatre ran afoul of the law, not violating some vague sense of morality. The only thing that makes this story even somewhat different is the fact that Utah applied the nudity statute to a movie, not just live dancers. I guess it all depends on how the law is written.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:13am

      You point out what is the only relevant part of this story, that the law was construed to pertain to nudity in film rather than live acts.

      That to me makes this a good case of bureaucratic abuse. The law was clearly intended to prohibit live acts of nudity not incidental acts on screen. And these acts were purely incidental. The nudity was not intended to be pornographic but comedic, even if the sense of humor is sophomoric and tasteless.

      To apply the law that broadly is a dangerous expansion of govermental power, the kind that the federal goverment does on a regualr basis with the Commerce Clause

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    • foobear
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:26am

      The laws were designed to protect strippers. It makes absolutely no sense in a movie theater.

      As the guy in the video clip said – what does the state expect? For people to drink beer and assault the movie screen?

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  • Silversmith
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:23am

    Forest – Trees

    Silversmith

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:12am

    That was stupid, wasn’t it? LOL

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  • KE_in_IA
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:10am

    It’s interesting to see the lengths that movie makers and theater owners are going to to get people to buy a ticket. Main-streaming porn and other forms of shameful human behavior will only work for a short amount of time before the public has had enough, and will avert their eyes, their ears and their MONEY.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:57am

    If the movie is about what it seems to be about, why was it made? Who profits? Where‘s the money trail that funds such satanic crap and pollutes our youths’ souls and destroys their minds?

    Doncha think, folks, it is way past time, we take our society back? Look what we have allowed to happen. No wonder GOD is disgusted with us!

    Picket these movies. Make signs about family and decency and, of all things, GOD! If we want HIM to save and restore our country, we need to show HIM we are serious about it.

    Good for Utah. The movie should NEVER see a public theater, ever.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:10am

      All they got was a fine for showing such garbage? I’d put them in prison and would consider the deathh penalty for those who produce such manuer!

      The Media has done more harm to America by far than any foreign enemy could ever dream of doing.

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    • walkyrie
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:19am

      Settle down Church Lady. It’s a silly if raunchy comedy about the ridiculous trouble people get into at bachelor and bachelorette parties in your beloved Las Vegas and elsewhere all the time. Is it decent – no; but “satanic” – that‘s stupid and you obviously haven’t seen either. There is far more “satanic” activity going on in the halls of power in the world governments that you should be worried about. Compared to Fast and Furious, this kind of pabulum is well mannered frivolity.

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:42am

      “Settle down Church lady”

      Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:42am

      @walkyrie ~~~ First “assumption” (never assume) of yours is WRONG. I am no “church lady”. I do follow CHRIST, however, which often means I am not in a building worshiping a denomination.

      Second “assumption” (ditto) about satanic action and halls of power in WDC, I couldn’t agree more with you.

      My opinions are those of an older lady (at times) who grew up in a country when there were things we just didn’t expose “nice people” and families to, not ever. If someone wanted to go where those things were offered (Las Vegas as you mentioned), they went there. We did not bring smut, filth and lack of respect out to “soil” (for lack of a better word right now) people who would rather not be exposed to that side of life. It worked rather well back then, actually. That is my point, and personally, I think it’s time to restore AMERICA. You want filth and depravity, go to sf or somewhere it is acceptable. I do not want it in my community. That’s all.

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    • kreese
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:10am

      Hang in there GRANNY….Too many younger Americans don’t even understand what we older Americans know..how sad it is to see where this country has gone. A lot of people moved to Utah because it is a better, safer environment. Then, they want to change it to what they left.

      For those of you in Utah, who want to change it, MOVE! Nobody is stopping you from moving..America is still a free country….well, for now.

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    • kreese
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:13am

      One more point about Utah…..Salt Lake City is not like the rest of Utah…after all, it is the home of the University of Utah.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:34am

      Grandma, I appreciate your sentiment, but “taking our culture back” is not the right way to think. Our culture was not TAKEN from us by some invadiing army of decadent sinners. We ler it slide away from us. Or rather, we let it slide from godliness because we too had slidden away.

      What we see here has its roots in the decadence and rebelliousness of the sixties, a spoiled generation that didn’t appreciate the virtues of morality or patriotism or of simple industry. But who made them that way? Who spoiled them? It was their parents generation that taught them that Christianity and Americaness were synonymous and required little effort to aquire. Be a good person and conform to this good Christian society and all will be well. What nonsense that was! Is it any wonder that when the problems of racism and the Vietnam war, and the temptation that came from Birth Control came that their children had little moral strength to resist or continue the American Dream? But where did that older generation get the idea that Christian culture was that simple a thing to maintain? From THEIR parents who promoted the idea of Christian liberalism in which the world had finally been conqured by the virtues of Christianity and the kingdom of God was being realized in the work of the modern enlightened Christian nations, “The battle over, the victory won”. Nothing pleases Satan more than for us to think we have him beaten, that we have our sin beaten.

      WE did this.

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    • walkyrie
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:40am

      Kickagrandma – agreed. well spoken and point taken.

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    • godhead
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 10:13am

      kickachurchlady . . . Your utopia never existed. It’s a figment of your memory. Filth and smut were always part of your community. So were cigarettes, alcohol, refer madness, wife beatings, kid beatings, business cheats, philandering pastors, promiscuous teens, petty thieves, bank robbers, snake oil salesmen, not to mention TB, polio, and a host of other diseases like conservatism and black folks hanging from trees. Ah, the good old days.

      Nostalgia is not reality, it’s surrender. You want to live in a myth, that;s fine, but keep it to yourself because you’re not really helping anything or anyone at all. Not even you.

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  • Carolina Infidel
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:51am

    If you don‘t like Utah’s laws, find another state.
    Wanna marry your gay partner, smoke weed, and have free horrible healthcare pick your blue state and prepare to be taxed and regulated for your desires. Mobility is what makes this country great, not unity.
    Choose where you live by how you want to live. Stop trying to blame some people for having laws that promote some moral discretion. You want to watch smut on TV while having a beer in public, do it, just not in UTAH.

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:05am

      Yeah, and when in Utah don’t make fun of our polygamists either! Lol. They’re just like you and me except they have more sex and with children when the opportunity presents itself!

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:10am

      That’s funny, been to UT after the O ring failure of the space shuttle…while the young Mormon elders are out on their two year stint…their women are partying it up and hanging in the bars…no different than any other state a the time…and that was before the influx of secular peoples etc…

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:34am

      >SAMIAMTWO. When the elders are home, those women are Mormons. When the elders are not at home… they turn into “Jack Mormons” when hanging at the bars.

      Met some “Jack Mormons”… definately a partying bunch… lol.

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    • mils
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:40am

      thing is…the place that showed the movie and served alcohol…paid the fine, said they were wrong and apologized. they had not screened the movie or would not have shown it.
      nothing wrong there.

      don’t like it?…don’t live there. polygamy?…i don’t know any. and anyway, it would be better than granny sellin crack out the kitchen window, or…a thousand young azzes on your local bridge protesting something..yeah something..don’t ask them to actually define it..

      at least we sincerely try to have some morals. like said, don’t like it, leave or don’t move to utah.

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    • FranciscoDAnconia
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:02pm

      Everyone here claims to support the constitution but has a problem with the 10th amendment. I have lived in both Las Vegas and Salt Lake City and they are very very different. If you don’t mind your young kids seeing soft core pornography on bill boards than move to Vegas. If you want your kids exposed sooner to drugs, alcohol, pornography than move to Vegas or other cities where morality is subjective.

      If you think morality is cut and dry than move to Utah. If you love strip clubs, bars, and other vices than Utah is not the place for you. Why is this complicated? Why is this a problem? If you don’t like rules at all you can go to Amsterdam, Mexico and other chaotic places. If you haven’t been to Utah maybe you should because its quite a place. At the end of the day move to the state that supports your behavioral lifestyles. If you don’t love gambling and think its a drag on society than move to Utah. Its a pretty simple philosophy.

      When you don’t regulate morality everyone ends up paying for it. Don’t give me the argument that nobody suffers from others peoples actions. Just like other people suffer from second hand smoke there are adverse consequences when you allow for a gigantic porn store or casino. They are not always visible consequences. Some times it takes time to see the drag they are on society. I am proud to say that I live in Utah.

      Ps. I have never met a polygamist and have lived in Utah for 20 year

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:32pm

      The problem isn’t the laws, it’s the idiotic officials who can’t read them correctly. If a movie with naked dancers is the same as having real naked dancers, does that mean that showing the original Hangover would be the same as having a pet tiger in your bar? Is showing The Town the same as robbing a bank?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:34pm

      I assume that this showed in movie theaters, even in Utah. Does that mean that the laws of Utah permit nude dancing in movie theaters as long as no alcohol is served?

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  • YepImaConservative
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:46am

    Liberals will love this movie alcohol or no alcohol! Especially the naked transvestite and monkey sex scenes. It’s like memories of their upbringing they will say.

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    • ying
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:02am

      Next, we will have people who claim to be a monkey in a human body, and want to marry a monkey, leading to thousands of like-minded beastiality people protesting in the streets because of it.

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:12am

      Lol, YING… I think we already have that in some circles…

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:20am

      Ooops, I guess YING left the building…

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    • rockstone
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:42am

      Exactly. It appears that a lot of people on this board want to see sexually aroused monkeys. You know… if we were just talking about a strip club scene and some bump and grind, I would say that the state went to far. But monkeys and transvestites people?

      Don’t worry though…. in the next incarnation of America you won’t even have the nudity and bump and grind. It’s either going to be Sharia or a return to sanity. Those who like to watch monkeys bump and grind well….. that day will soon be over.

      Trust me on that!!

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  • DoctorRon
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:45am

    From the description of the movie, I would HAVE to be drinking to watch it.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:44am

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    A Strip Club with no alcohol!? Might as well take it to the river and hit it with a rock………

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:43am

    Good for them for having standards they’ll not compromise. I’m glad they refuse to ski down the slippery slope of decayed morals and become another California.

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    • TangoBravo
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 3:39pm

      Utah is such an excellent state. They still go to church on Sundays, treat a neighbor like a neighbor and respect America as the great country it is. Not to mention they have some seriously excellent outdoor activities! Great place, great people!

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  • DeVain
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:38am

    wow…just…..wow…..

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:11am

      Well at least they recognize the value of gold. lol

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  • Mess23
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:37am

    A better use for the public safety would be at the BORDER!!!

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    • Carolina Infidel
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:52am

      To keep people out of UTAH?

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:16am

      Carolina Infidel

      Maybe the theater was being run by a bunch of illegals? Dunno but there are plenty of them living in UT.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Carolina Infidel
      No to keep movies of naked people drinking out of the video section in Borders bookstores.

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    • rockstone
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 4:46pm

      I don’t think that Utah would have a problem with that Carolina. Especially for people from California!

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:29am

    The wonderful world of Government regulation. Not to protect us,but to make money.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:40am

      I wonder where else an inventive bureaucrat can find to apply this law. Are there any nude STATUES in bars or restaurants serving liquor? That should apply. Even PICTURES of stutues would do. The applications for the state are near endless.

      Long live the reach of government!

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