Van Jones, Coulter and Huckabee Clash on ‘This Week’ Over Adding Jobs to the Public Sector
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President Barack Obama may have given further fuel to the fire for those campaigning to unseat him in 2012. During a press event at the White House Friday morning, the president told a room full of journalists that “the private sector is doing fine.”
This comes following 40 straight weeks of the unemployment rate over 8 percent.
On ABC’s “This Week” With George Stephanopoulos Sunday, discussion on the gaffe and a rough week for the president served as a starting point for a lively debate featuring Ann Coulter and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, coming at odds against Van Jones and former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell. Originally discussing how the insensitive comment may be used politically, Coulter shifted the conversation towards the public sector, and the president’s plans to look to growing the public sector as a means to get people back to work and the economy back on track.
When asked earlier on the program about the “fine” remark, the president’s Senior Campaign Advisor David Axelrod said “the American people are smarter than that,” and understood the context of the president’s remarks on our economy as “the storm clouds that are rolling in from Europe and elsewhere.” Axelrod went on to say that one of President Obama’s steps to promote job creation is adding jobs in the public sector:
And put the teachers and firefighters and police who have lost their jobs over the last — we have had 4.3 million private sector jobs created over the last 27 months, but we lost almost half a million public sector jobs, and most of them are teachers. Many of them are firefighters and police. And his argument was that we ought to move on this, Congress ought to move on this.
During the panel later on in the show, Coulter said that Axelrod and the Obama campaign must be oblivious to recent political events like the Walker win in Wisconsin to even think that public sector job growth is the solution that the American people want.
“Did they not notice what just happened in Wisconsin? The country is enraged at public sector workers, and he’s talking about how he need to buck up public school teachers,” exhaled Coulter.
Gov. Rendell reacted to the comments by pointing to tax cuts for small businesses that hire, which are also a part of the president’s plan. The former governor went on to accuse Republicans of criticizing these policies not because they believe the plan is inefficient, but only because they want to beat President Obama in November.
As the discussion began to evolve into a shouting match involving all four panelists, Stephanopoulos silenced the crowd and questioned Gov. Huckabee directly; “What is wrong with the jobs for teachers, firemen and policemen.”
“There is nothing wrong with it, my did was a fireman, I love firemen jobs,” replied Gov. Huckabee. “But here’s what you need, you need enough firemen to put out the fires. You don’t go arbitrarily hire firemen, policemen or teachers, unless you have more kids in school. And what we need to be talking about is, we need not to be hiring more teachers, but hiring better teachers and getting rid of the ones that don’t teach.
“When 50 percent of the kids in Chicago, where Obama’s campaign headquarters is located, aren’t even graduating,” added Gov. Huckabee,”we need to be talking about improving education and not just increasing the number of public employees, who in Chicago get $100,000 a year in salary and benefits.”
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bills999
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:47amWell we all know it is going well .
Report Post »I just checked a major LA newspaper and there were 15 jobs in the classified section.
Hope that on Monday there will be more. (not likely)
god bless you and if you need a job god help you.
bill
Bryan B
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:07am@bills999
Don’t give up, no matter difficult it seems, don’t quit looking for a job.
Try to hit the streets at least once a week and look help wanted signs at businesses. Also watch the internet. Some companies use only their web-sites, to say if their hiring or not.
Pray for Jett……
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:00amSince only the Federal Government is creating Jobs… start applying there… as it’s the only Sector that is Expanding! Just… go along with the Insanity… until the Cure is Found!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 5:52amIf you don’t mind relocating, you can use Monster.com. My husband did for a while a few years back, but they wanted him to either move overseas or to Alaska or somewhere remote.
Report Post »BreeZee
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:02amThis clip just shows how repub’s are crappy at arguing and debating.AC or MH should of blast VJ commie, cop hating organization STORM when talked about growing up. ER should have been blasted when he said they got a billion stimulus money yet Penn’s infrastructure is falling apart and how under his watch Penn has fallen apart.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:20amShouldn’t the fact that Van Jones is a Communist be automatically brought up before ever debating with him. That would be the first thing I would get out there so that we can know where his ideas are rooted in. Communist are evil and want to set up big oppressive governments and they know people don’t like it and that is why they always like weasels try to hide who they are.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:21amBill….lukerw is right.
Maybe you can start here..
ca.gov
(State of California EED ..online job center )….
Online.. First.. Then hit the Pavement…
Courthouse…post office ..public-utilities water/sewer.. Public- transportation…public-education..
Don’t forget the Colleges .. Airports…and penal systems.
Good Luck…Bill
Report Post »yathink
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:34amThis is about to make my head explode! I am a cutting edge industry trainer. My company helps people lower interest rates on there existing credit card debt so they can get out of debt. Office environment air-conditioned in central Florida. Half of people who apply never show up for training. Half who show up for training never make it for through two week paid training period. Most that are hired do not want a job were they are held accountable for doing that job. They just want a paycheck at the end of each week. Those who study the material and are able to learn a new thing make a better then average income for my area around 36000.00 a year. The ones who make it are the people who are willing to get down to business and do the work. About 25% of the applying work force. I can teach anyone to do the job and most give up before they even try. I have forty entry level positions right now.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:26amVan Jones has campaigned for years to get a convicted cop killer out of jail. He has refered to the polices as pigs,nazis,and murders hundreds of time.
Report Post »Why did no one call BS on him when he said he was raised to respect the police.
Blazebanned
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:33amGuess these idiots dont know, that without the private sector,there would be not public sector jobs.I amazed that these libturd progressive commies have yet to figure out where the money comes from.My guess they think bo craps it……
Report Post »obrien871
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:50amCut off the unemployment bennies and watch peoLe go back to work. Here in St Louis have heard employers call in to radio shows saying they’re trying to hire and when someone calls about a job and they say yes nine times out of ten the person hangs up or they ask if they could start six months later when their unemPloyment runs out!
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:55amStart by calling Van what he is a Commie who hates the pigs. He does not respect anything but tyranny.
Report Post »Second How can hiring a public sector employee help when we have to strip the productive class of money in order to pay the salary and bennies. It is the old saying of taking a bucket of water from one side of the lake and dumping it in the other side and thinking you just added water to the lake. It is part of the Eneptocracy we keep voting into office.
mils
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:18amHOPING EVERYON IS PLANNING TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER…if you can’t get there…vote absentee..we need to vote obama and ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL his henchmen out of office. ALL!..
Report Post »and why do we give credence to someone like Van JOnes?…We make him a headliner..
Machtyn
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:18amIf you are looking in the newspaper for a job, you’re doing it wrong. Even if your job isn’t white collar, you won’t be finding job listings in the very expensive classifieds of a newspaper.
Report Post »AMENDMENT
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:34am@ BILLS999
Hey Bill, if you are unemployed and currently seeking employment, you could try http://www.gcspersonnel.com. Jobs are posted daily. IT, Sales/Marketing, Healthcare, Accounting/Finance and much more.
Good luck finding a new Job!
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 11:07amLukeW your chance of getting one of those Federal jobs increases more if your job app says you’re african-american…. Even though they’re 12% of the population… I think they have about 18% of the federal jobs.
Report Post »Dolfenn24
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:38pmHey YaThink…would you mind sending me your contact info…I live in Central Florida and am currently looking for employment. Email address is MDPainting00@yahoo.com. Thanks for your help!
Report Post »marysteeleyorktownva
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:05pmIllegal workers have a whopping 7+ million jobs but Obama refuses to tell them to leave so they open to unemployed legal immigrants and citizens! If they “knew” they would be detained, charged and deported anyway, most would leave on their own to avoid the 3-10 ban that comes with illegal re-entry or overstaying their visa more than 6 months! It is as simple as serious enforcement but Obama and the majority of Democrats are still protecting illegals at the expense of unemployed legal immigrants and citizens and the rest of us because he admitted that we pay their healthcare! Both are reasons illegals must go but they still protect them instead of us!!
Report Post »johnsnare
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:26pmWhy the heck is Van Jones on National TV?. He is a damned communistr, who hates America, and hates white people.
Report Post »Basharr
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:01pm@Lukerw;
Government jobs are going to dwindle in a few months when Obama gets sent packing and Romney starts scaling back the size of the government.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:28pmVan Jones said Bammy is a life guard trying to save us, HAH……. He is the Gangster thug putting cement shoes on us….. I had to turn it off….. When fools like Van speak it nauseates me to the point that I can no longer listen to the BS!!!!!!!
Report Post »resme
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:44pmLOL, 5 liberals sitting at the round table.
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 12:03pmTwo excellent points were made by Ann that liberals fail to even discuss. Is there a demand for more firemen, teachers and policemen and do you realize that tax dollars pay there salaries as they don’t produce anything but rather a service that is purely paid for by tax dollars. When liberals actually open up the ledger of the checkbook and realize why they give it to you to write down your expenses for the purpose of balancing, then we can have an apples to apples discussion about needs in relation to cost and not just needs in relation to ideology. Usually the answer is raise taxes which brings a whole other issue is that businesses produce less when they pay out more…..simple economics for the purpose of creating wealth and jobs. Liberals are the stupidest amongst us and they keep proving us right every damn day!
Report Post »Capitalist Mama
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 2:55pmCompanies are always hiring GOOD workers! If you WANT to work, you can find a job.
I own a business and every owner I know is looking. Not posting ads because then you get 500 or 600 resumes that don’t even match the skill set listed.
If you need a job, email your resume to every company that is in your field and your area, even if they aren’t posting ads. I bet you someone is hiring.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:46amNothing but rhetoric. This is why I don’t consume main stream media. The issues they discussed are much more complicated than the mind numbing rhetoric from everyone at the table. Quite frankly main stream news insults me. Lowest common denominator news hopefully is going the way of the dinosaurs. Sad to say Van Jones had the most compelling rhetoric. He’s wrong but very, very skilled at the rhetoric game. Coulter is usually better and Huckabee is a patronizing boob. Rendell is just another party hack. If the wind blew in the direction of Republicans he would be Mr. Republican.
Report Post »Bottom line, I learned nothing new and the “debate” was not moved forward. I know it’s ABC and this is about par for them but It just irritates me to hear important issues butchered beyond recognition. I do thoroughly enjoy the Real News on GBTV. They really get to the meat of issues because they don’t believe in the lowest common denominator style news cast. They don’t dumb it down. Glenn was probably right when he said main stream media is going extinct.
lukerw
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:47amRemember the Gore/Perot NAFTA Debate? Whom chose them to represent the sides of a Debate… which led to the Destruction of the Middle Class, Export of Jobs, and Death of Production?
People… are suckers!
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:52amAnne should stick to the Hannity-type settings. Her snooty accent and whining intonation do not go over well in a liberal setting. When I watch the msm, always try to see it from the position of a viewer who watches only msm. This “clash” did not help conservatives.
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:50amInteresting that Van says “I was taught growing up to respect teachers – firefighters – POLICE OFFICERS etc.” You can go back anywhere from 10 years ago to 2011 and see videos or hear audio of him rallying against police, calling President Bush a “crack head”, saying absolutely terrible things THE DAY AFTER September 11th happened about our country(we deserved it), he’s a truther, announcing openly he’s a communist for years and much more. This all was so impressive I guess that our current President looked at his resume and said “yep, this guy I’ll hire and make my Green Jobs Czar! Where do I sign! Call up this Van Jones guy!.” Savage breaks some more details about Jones down well (see link)
http://youtu.be/y6WMDOu3h3Y
Report Post »OhSnappage
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:42amI feel dumber having to listen to that forum with that incompetent ABC host.
The moronic PA Gov. and mentally deranged Van Jones rant about republicans wanting the country to fail for poiltical gain… and Romeny who only wants to destrot business and people’s lives. We have a host that sticks to one talking point repeatedly and seems uninterested to be involved in the conversation. Then we have Gov Huckabee and Coulter that don’t school these morons and call them out for being liars and address whose been calling the shots in our branches of govt.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:13amHey JZS,
Is that Van Jones I see on ABC’s “This Week” with George Snuffeluffigus?
JZS, just yesterday, you posted this following quote in the other Van Jones story here on the Blaze.
“Thank you Blaze for the free PR about Van Jones. You’re his only media outlet. Frankly were it not for the Blaze nobody would ever hear a word this guy says, or even know who he is for that matter.”
Another entry for the old dossier.
For a smart guy, (according to you), you sure say some not so smart things.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 5:55amAnd if I hear the statement Romney made about liking to fire people taken out of context one more time, I’m going to scream. They have to look for something wrong, and when they can’t find it they twist something to make it wrong. If you listen to that whole statement, he was talking about a private citizen having the ability to “fire” someone who is not doing a good job. It’s the union mentality: if you can get a foot in the door, you’re in for life. I think that‘s Obama’s thinking, and he likes the job and doesn’t want to leave.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:00amOhsnappage?
Report Post »Like, oh, no you didn’t? While I personally don’t support the rainbow coalition, whatever dudette.
commonsensesue
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:32amI get SO TIRED of hearing about “failing schools” and “bad teachers”. Yes, there are some bad teachers/failing schools. BUT, the biggest reason many students fail is because they have no structure at home, their parents don’t care…probably don’t even know IF their kids are going to school. A kid will fail every time NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE TEACHER IS, if their parents aren’t involved!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:52amYou have an excellent point, but the Governor’s point is also spot-on. There are plenty of miserable teachers, and plenty who simply teach what they’re handed from leftist bosses.
I don’t have much sympathy for a lot of teachers. We don’t live in a bad area, by any stretch, but most of the kids at the fourth grade level (my son’s grade) are barely functional in terms of reading and basic math. That’s not the fault of mom and dad who are both too busy working to spend a lot of time checking up on the teacher.
It’s the result of crap teachers using crap methods.
My buddy at work has a wife who’s a teacher. She taught at the 3rd grade level of 3 years, and then complained about how badly underpaid she was. At the time, she was making $54,000 a year.
Combine her salary with her husband’s, and their family makes considerably more than mine, and they have one less child than we do. Her attitude, and that of many other teachers, is out of synch with reality.
Report Post »4areason
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:58amI agree, parents are key to a child’s educational success; however, the reality is we have created a society that makes it difficult for a parent to be involved and respected. Our economy drives both parents into the workforce, our schools discourage involvement, our media constantly undermines the parental role and the public sector lifts teachers to a level of higher respect than the child’s parent. The truth of the matter is the problem is bigger than the parent or the school teacher. Each have a role, but we must address all the related societal issues.
Report Post »idarusskie
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:55amand more teachers will not help.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:59amTo those of you who speak of Parents in the plural you are so out of date. The majority of children born today to mothers under 30 are born into a single parent household. Welcome to the Future.
Report Post »Marriage was born to solve social problems, just because marriage has one foot out the door doesn’t mean those problems have gone away. Welcome to the Future ….You can have it…. Ill take my past.
Incredulous321
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:44amThank You!! I get tired of hearing about how teachers are under paid and overworked. BS. 60K is pretty good pay, and the benefits and pensions more than make up for any perceived pay gap. Go try battling Taliban in Afghanistan for 30K or less, and you’ll understand. I retired from the AF after twenty years and multiple wars, and my pension is 18K not 100K. The teachers unions and many teachers need to quit reading the left’s press clippings and get to work. Never did I even consider that 50% of kids wouldn’t graduate high school. And, I‘m tired of hearing how it’s all the parents fault. Teachers get paid to teach. The only other job in America that can have a 50% success rate and want more money is weather person!
Report Post »bigdaddyt46
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:01amthat was part of the law that Walker passed her in Wisconsin that really riled the union. by flipping the script on them by taking back the 80% control that the union held, he is able now to weed out the bad teachers while rewarding(merit pay) the good teachers. that’s why they were having a fit. that meant they actually had to work to recieve a raise.
Report Post »i can use myself as an example. i am far from dumb. i had some fantastic teachers, and i had some teachers who just didn’t give a crap. the good ones were able to peak my interest and curiosity in their classes i pulled straight As, then the other side i had several teachers(my math teacher was the worst he’d write out all the problems out on the chalk board, then sit at his desk reading magazines i pulled an A in his class too but only because it was a basic math course). the teachers who came in with the attitude of not giving a crap, basically rubbed off on my attitude and i got mostly D’s in their classes.
nowadays we have too many teachers like the latter, rather then the former. those we have got to get rid of and get in those who actually TEACH what a concept. the parents 9 times out of 10 are not involved because when they went to school they were taught by the same worthless teachers. it isn’t any surprise that private schools have better teachers, better grades, and better prepared students, while recieving half the pay. that‘s what’s wrong with the schools today run by the far left that don’t teah they bra
Hiswill
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:47amMy experiance exactly over the past 8 years. The majority of parents that show up for Open House,
Report Post »parent/ teacher conferances are the parents of students that are doing well in school.
johnjamison
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:57amThe problems are just teachers,it’s the whole educational enviroment and the role government has taken in undermining parental authority. The problem is government and creating more government workers isn’t going to help it. Fact is it only serves to worsen the problem on mopre levels creating more burden on the already over burdened tax payers. The entire federal employment system needs to be scrapped let the unions strike or whatever. Scrap the system and then rebuild only the necessary agencies. The department of Education is one that could be removed permanently as there is nop need for it. Schools systems such be handled by local governments as they are were suppose to be in the first place. No where in the constitution is the federal government given power to over the education of our children. As a matter of fact the Constitution is suppose to protect the children from the Government.
Report Post »gavriella
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:46pmYour so right! My 10 year old granddaughter came home with a triple semester all “ A ” report card, it was because my daughter sat down and encouraged her every step of the way. Her two other children are doing amazingly well also, and it wouldn’t surprise me once the baby starts school, she’ll do great also, because she is as smart as a whip too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:22am@ Vox Populi, Please explain in English how robbing from private sector employees to create public sector jobs helps to build the economy. It can not and never has worked. You obviously have never managed a business. You are probably up to your eyeballs in debt, and looking to buy a new car (on credit) to help you out of your financial mess.
Report Post »LoveBringsTruth
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:22amHow close are huckabee and jim wallice? I bet they share a hammer and sickle. Talk about a masquerading dirt bag. He fits right in with DC.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:54amHuckabee is a (Nationalist) Progressive Socialist. He‘s never seen a big government solution he didn’t like. He doesn’t advocate limiting the power of government, but seeks to increase government’s scope and reach. He might be Christian, and he might love his country, but he’s thrilled to stomp on the rights of his neighbors.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:07amWhat are you talking about?
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:20amRendell is lucky he did not interrupt Ann again – otherwise, she would have ripped him a new arse.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Report Post »The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:19amWhy is a an avowed racist communist given a voice to debate ANYTHING? That is pure insanity!
Report Post »mingfurecon
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:33amThe Obamas and Vallery Jarrett’s mouth piece. This guy was the number 1 czar that these fools wanted.
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:44amCoulter is a Fascist not a Communist.
Report Post »Sparky77
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:56amGood point! Governor Huckabee & Ann Coulter really lowered themselves by being on the same program with this gutter snipe. Stephy Stephanopoulos & Rendell can’t really debase themselves any further so it is understandable why they would be on this program.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:57am@13th Generation American
You think so? What do you think the difference is between Fascism and Communism, hmmm?
Oh, and then how about linking to a couple articles where Ann Coulter suggested the Government create a cartel for corporations, please. I’ve never heard Ann Coulter express support for the idea that government should back corporations, much less own them outright.
Report Post »FreedomWitness
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:03am“13TH GENERATION AMERICAN: Coulter is a Fascist not a Communist.”
Wow 13 generations and still thicker than Mississippi mud, well done.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:51am13 was certainly an unlucky number in his family.
Report Post »Crazy Times
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:32am… 13 doesn’t know his head from his arse, much less the difference between Marxism and a Free Republic.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:24amI never would have sat down at that table with V.Jones….period
Report Post »aconstitutionalistlivesinbrooklyn
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:13amWhy don‘t Coulter and Huckabee fire back about Rendell’s and Jones’ assertions of teachers and police and firemen being let go, that other states and cities should follow Governor Walker’s lead and make union dues payment voluntary, have these workers pay more towards their pensions and like Wisconsin, they will not have to lay off anyone?
Report Post »DIR
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:02am“Van Jones, Coulter and Huckabee Clash on ‘This Week’ Over Adding Jobs to the Public Sector!”
I missed it! I wonder if Van did his incredible impression of a woopie cushion when it was his turn to speak. I can only imagine the rich explosive sounds when he got a little huffy.
Report Post »countryfirst
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:44amWell now I know why VJ turned to communism, both parents were public school teachers. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Report Post »Displacedsoutherner
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:43pmIt’s not just the teachers who are to blame, ask the school boards, too:
I live in a very small town in the NE with it’s own elementary school; if the school gets 20 new students they simply MUST have $200,000 added to the budget or the world will come to an end. If enrollment drops by 20 students the next year there is absolutely no place to cut a penny from the budget. The school board and teachers attempt to rationalize this by first re-defining “ideal class size”, it’s gone from 30 to 25 to 20, etc and now they claim any more than 15 students in a class is unmanageable and creates an environment where “children simply can’t learn”. I figure they’ll be down to 10 in another year or so.
When asked again to explain the one-way-only budgets they hem and haw about staff cuts and how damaging that would be to the school when in fact they’re willing to fire the custodian if it means they can keep a new teacher they all really, really like on the payroll.
As yet another spin on an answer they explain the high cost of special ed and the state requirements for a one-on-one attendant for each student. That expense never seems to go down when the number of kids requiring that attention drops.
When all else fails they drag out the universal excuse: it‘s for the children and if you oppose it you’re just mean. This chorus is performed most loudly by the residents with the most children and least visible means of support other than welfare, food stamps and misc
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:58pmWhen I went to school in the 60′s we had 35+ students in my class. We all learned because we were taught the basics, and there was discipline in the classroom.
Report Post »Chancellor
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:02amFunny when I went to school class sizes Averaged 32-38 children per class…..
I grew up in a Rural farming Community 99% Graduated when they actually graded
and not on a curve either!
Report Post »mzk1
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 1:31amDon’t forget – school boards are elected.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:24pmOne mistake is giving Vann Jones a voice in the matter when he was fired from his job…or was he? Must people with commonsense like Huckabee and Ann handle themselves well and speak for most of America so it is time to open our ears and get our minds together so we can change our direction before it is too late. Their suggestions play right into Beck’s 4 step plan which is not that hard to follow. All we need to do is be wise, brave and do what needs to be done. If people want help they need to accept what it will take to help them or suffer the consequences.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:12pmAnd who was the main sponsor and the big push behind the legislation? Oh, yes, the late Liberal Lion of the Senate–Sen. Kennedy. And what was the vote to pass the bill into law–in the House 384-45 and in the Senate 91-8. Sorry to bring up those inconvenient truths and facts from history to blow up your point.
Report Post »kcinco
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:04pmRendell wants an “infrastructure program?” What the heck was the obamulus bill supposed to do? I still don’t see the infrastructure of my town being repaired. Still lots of folks unemployed around here! And, lamestream media is really leaning left … inviting an admitted communist to appear on a weekend news program? Really? Van Jones? Really? Frightening.
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:13amWhat happened to the tax dollars already collected for infrastructure jobs no one wants to answer that question and no one is asking that question why were allocated funds dumped into the general funds accounts and spent on things for which it wasn’t allocated for.
Report Post »Can you spell misappropiation of funds which is a jailable offence.
Incredulous321
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:56amAbsolutely right. I got so fired up about the techer thing I skipped over Van Jones being a dyed in the wool Communist! Rendell asked “do you want less firefighters and police?” YES. We have too many cops, unless you want to transfer about 100,000 to Chicago and Detroit! Why is it that we have all these modern crime fighting techniques but we constantly need more cops? If they would quit writing grandma tickets and get busy catching criminals crime would go down. Oh wait. They can‘t because they’re afraid of profiling! Yes, the first stimulus was supposed to be for infrastructure. Rendell said he got 1 billion in PA. Good for you Ed. What about the other 999 BILLION? Idiot! Fool me once…
Report Post »Andy Cooper
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:00pmWhat does deuce does Van Jones know about private sector jobs? Why doesn’t someone call him on his bravo sierra.
Report Post »Z
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:56pm“You knew I was a snake when you picked me up” I think Coulter and Huckabee had to shower twice after that segment to wash off the Van Jones progressive stench.
Report Post »mcgrawactor1
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:08amYou ain’t kdding! Ick!!!!!!
Report Post »TheycallmeJoker
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:52pmNotice how Mr Van Jones face changes as the Huckster is explaining core capitalist ideas. PRICELESS…..
Report Post »txjb
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:45pmAnn Coulter !! what the hell does she know about the economy ? same sex unions and other screwed up life styles , yes .
Report Post »Susie
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:36am@ TXJB
” What does Anne Coulter know ….. ” ?
Well how about reading any one of her multiple NYT best sellers and then you may actually find out
that Anne Coulter is an extremely well educated and brilliant analyst.
Careful. Your ignorance is showing.
Report Post »txjb
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 5:33pmNo susie-q your pc is showing , I used to follow her a lot enjoyed listening to her , but when this queer agenda started sweeping the country she came out in support of it . I’m man enough to drop her like the liberal she is , and you are not , why ? because you are living in Her past , so catch up with the times .
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:29pmHuckabee made several good points.
Public sector employees should never make significantly more than the communities they work in. If the median income in your area is $40,000 then it becomes unsustainable to have significant numbers of police, fire and teachers making $80,000 a year, then adding more every year just to keep the unions happy.
Report Post »lwillis59
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:40pmI watched it as well… and I thought it was a good panel… I am usually a faithful Fox watcher.. but anymore I have been very dis appointed in the information they are putting out.. Love Ann Coulter. I thought both Coulter and Huckabee handled themselves quite niucely.
Report Post »Snaker
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:25pmWhat part of the US Constitution authorizes the Federal government to infest itself into the hiring and firing of state teachers, firemen, and police?
Report Post »…Unless it is pandering and prostituting itself for votes…..?
BUTT out, feds…. You’ve no authority being there. Let the states handle it.
It’s not YOUR job.
TurboCat
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:52pmO-blame-a and his cronies are sure creating a big MESS for future President Romney to have to mop up!
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:18amA little honey to the Democratic run States will result in vote buying.
Report Post »MDDAWG
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:24pmDoesn’t anyone realize that the only way out of our financial mess is SERIOUS austerity measures now, before it’s too late? I mean, one way or another, we are going to have to make some tough decisions to cut government spending. Growing public sector jobs is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Report Post »Again, the progressives are going to bankrupt our country with “government fix all” attittudes.
Parnell3rd
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:37pmWe are right behind europe with our own bankruptcy. It has been going on for much longer in America than people think. We have sat by too long letting politicians do what they want. It is too late for us. Our riots will be comming soon. But worse than europe.
Report Post »98ZJUSMC
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:43pmNormal people do,
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:55pm“Doesn’t anyone realize that the only way out of our financial mess is SERIOUS austerity measures now, before it’s too late?”
Don’t you realize that absolute debt is less relevant than debt-to-GDP ratios? Whether you like it or not, a sizeable chunk of the economy is dependent on various government investments and expenditures, and large cuts would devastate the economy. Many of the cuts we’ve already seen in the US – like those axing various teachers, firefighters, cops, etc. – have already hurt economic growth through increasing unemployment by hurting the public sector.
Serious harm to employment levels and economic growth means a serious fall in tax revenues, which means the debt and deficit will get worse, not better. The Republican answer, however, is always to continue the cuts. It‘s this sort of maligned logic that’s beginning to have such serious effects in Europe.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:06amOnce again Vox you have demonstrated a very shallow understanding of the impact that public sector spending has on the economy. The government has no money that it doesn’t take from the private sector employee who earned it. For every public sector job, there could’ve been as many as 2-3 private sector jobs created for the same money. This is especially true when you consider the outrageous pay and benefits many of the unionized public sector employees are receiving. Consider the $200K that a garbage truck driver in Milwaukee earned last year, or the six figure incomes of life guards (yes the folks in the bright red swim suits sitting on the big chairs on the beach) in some southern California cities. All of these public sector union employees have cadillac health care insurance plans and gold plated pensions all of which costs them nothing, but costs taxpayers a fortune. Just imagine how many self supporting (that’s the difference between private sector and public sector jobs. Private sector employees have to actually produce more than they cost to remain employed.) private sector jobs that kind of money would’ve produced. Do you really believe that lifeguards receiving $50,000 a year would be any less capable than one’s (and yes some are) receiving over $200,000? Shouldn’t public sector employees have to pay into their retirement accounts too? Public sector employees used to receive great benefits and pensions to offset their lousy pay. Now they want great pay AND be
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:07amIt is not the feds job to pump in money for police, firefighters,and teachers. We think we need more police because , 1. to many laws (police are too busy catching illegal smokers, etc) 2. trying to enforce too many federal laws, teachers can easily teach 35 to 40 students if discipline was back in the classroom, firefighters get too much time off so they think more is needed. Most firemen I know have side businesses in which they make more or as much money as they do as the city pays them.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:46amIt’s not austerity. That is so laughable.
Let’s see, we can stop buying people free cell phones, free broadband and their own apartment.
We increased teachers to 1 teacher to 16 kids when we had money. Is cutting to 1 teacher to 20 kids now austerity? I had 1 teacher to 50 kids growing up in a private school – first grade.
Is it austerity to ask teachers to teach all day? Is it austerity to ask them to pay part of their own healthcare? Is it austerity to fire bad teachers?
Is it austerity for the US to mothball one of the 16 carrier groups of the navy, close bases in the EU or cut back on the number of solar research satellite projects fully paid for by the taxpayer when we have 16% real unemployed.
“But we have to waste money or we will layoff those people and make it worse!”.
No, the reason that cutting back on wasteful public make-work projects helps is that those people will be force into jobs that actually produce a product and producing products increase productivity. Increase productivity increases exports and raise the standard of living.
Make work jobs spend taxpayer money, produce nothing, lower our exports, lower productivity, lower standard of living and hurt the economy.
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:36amIt used to be people depended on the State for their needs now it is the States depending on Federal Government the welfare cycle just did a shift.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 9:07amyes, things can fall hard and fast with alot of pain. if measured steps are taken to cut the debt and eliminate deficit budgeting, there still will be pain but the recovery will be much faster than embracing communism.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:18pmthe left is in deep trouble.
do not get too confident.
Report Post »98ZJUSMC
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:38pmNot at all, and yes, they are in deep shiite.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:16pmI love good shouting matches, sad I missed it.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:12pmRetardlican no child left behind was a big failure and made teachers teach goverment ignorance and not allowed them to teach , they tried and failed.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:17amI know a number of teachers and that’s a BS argument. Since when does holding teachers to a standard for achieving a level of acceptable performance result in them not being able to teach? That’s like saying that requiring a mechanic to actually fix a car is keeping him from being a mechanic. Or how about requiring a fireman to put out a fire is keeping him from firefighting? It‘s an idiotic argument that doesn’t hold water. The teachers were so against no child left behind because it actually required them to work and punished school districts that allowed them to get away without actually doing so. When I was in school, we had homework that had to be done, and material that had to be learned or you got a big fat “F” on your report card and with enough “F”, you had to take the entire year over. Nowadays they complain that that‘s bad for the kid’s self esteem. Sorry but the prisons are full of illiterate young adults with high self esteem and no work ethic. Perhaps pushing them to actually work and learn when they were 8 and preventing them from developing a false sense of worth might have prevented them from ending up in jail.
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:52pm911 an inside job, why don’t you move to Iran, what an unpatriotic fool!
Report Post »PJL
Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:11pmgood debate.
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