Vatican Orders Overhaul of U.S. Nun Group Over Liberal Stances on Sexuality & Abortion
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(The Blaze/AP) — The Vatican’s orthodoxy watchdog announced Wednesday a full-scale overhaul of a group representing most U.S. nuns and named an American archbishop to oversee the reform. The timing of the announcement is intriguing, especially considering ongoing angst within faith communities about the Obama administration’s contraceptive mandate, among other related issues.
The Vatican agency cited the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), the largest umbrella group for Roman Catholic religious sisters in the United States, for using materials that “do not promote church teaching” on family life and sexuality, for sometimes taking positions in opposition to the nation’s bishops and for being “silent on the right to life from conception to natural death, a question that is part of the lively public debate about abortion and euthanasia in the United States.”
Representatives for the women’s group, based in Silver Spring, Md., did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Seattle Archbishop Peter Sartain will manage the five-year reform, which will include rewriting the group’s statutes, reviewing all its plans and programs — including approving speakers — and ensuring the group properly follows Catholic prayer and ritual.
The report specifically cites a social justice group associated with the conference called NETWORK, which played a key role in supporting the Obama administration‘s health care overhaul despite the bishops’ objections. The announcement Wednesday made no direct mention of President Barack Obama’s health care law, but said Sartain will review the Leadership Conference’s ties with NETWORK.

A screen shot from the LCWR web site
The review, which began in 2008, was a “doctrinal assessment” by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. When the inquiry was initially announced, many religious sisters and their supporters said the inquiry reflected church officials’ misogyny and was an insult to religious sisters, who run hospitals, teach, and play other vital service roles in the church.
Conservative Catholics, however, have long complained that the majority of sisters in the U.S. have grown too liberal and flout church teaching.



















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geonj
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:41pmthese religious sisters need to be obidient to the teachings of Christ and the church’s teachings as put forth by the Pope, Christ’s presence on earth. unfortunately for the good sisters, they are second class members of the Catholic church. their voices are there to support the church’s teachings. they are subservient to Christ. they need to look to the Blessed Mother as the example of their devotion to Christ.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 1:06amYes Geonj very true. My sister is a nun in the Catholic church, and according to her, many sisters in her convent are general Democrat voters (My sister is one of the few younger sisters…many are elderly..) Yet they don’t have much connection to the modern world (political that is) As these older sisters are still tied to the old school Democrats…Not the Progressive (aka Communists) that are there today.
They are ignorant. They just don’t know.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 11:35pmI am an evangelical Christian.
I am a German citizen and I think it is great that there is a German Pope.
I support the Catholic Church and their stance on religious liberty.
But please do not call the Pope Christ’s presence on earth.
That is blasphemy.
Will the Pope hand the ruling scepter over to Christ when He returns to earth?
I have never heard a more outrageous claim.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:37am@LEUPOLD – Jesus is our KING, the KING of the Universe. Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom to Peter and ONLY to Peter and Jesus empowered Peter and the other Apostles with the authority to bind and loose on earth and in Heaven but the one who holds the KEYS has the final authority given to Him by Christ the King. Do you deny that Peter was given the keys? Who are you to deny this and by what authority do you 2000 years later reject Jesus Keys and proclaim Jesus decision “blasphemy”? I highly recommend you study the Old Testament (Isaiah 22:22) with a prayerful heart. In the time of King David if the King gave his KEYS to someone whatever he shut no one could open and whatever he opened no one could shut. Whoever possessed the KEYS ruled with ALL of the Kings authority during the Kings absence. Who would dare to question the Kings representative? Jesus most definitely left his KEYS with Peter. Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. In passing the keys to Peter and guaranteeing that the gates of hell would not prevail Jesus established His Church for all eternity. This is not about Peter or any Pope, this is about Jesus authority. To deny that my friend……… is blasphemy. Peace be with you…
Report Post »mammacub
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:30pmGod has blessed the Pope with good sense. We are not catholic but my son attended catholic high school. One of the nuns wanted him to write a paper about how horrible American corporation treated workers in south America. My son wrote a well researched paper about how they went to rural areas, built factories, built roads, gave jobs to so many. And that they donated millions of foods and goods to poor. He got a c- because he did not give negative paper. My husband, an executive and I went in and had a talk with the “social justice” nun and gave her an American education about the benefits of world business. That was 10 years ago. Glad to see the socialist tripe will be challenged. And how could Notre Dame give Obama an(dis) honorable degree?.
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:39pmWay to go, Mammacub! “Agents of Change” – code words for Marxism. This has been going on since the late sixties. Thank God Pope Benedict is calling them on it.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 12:52amYou don;t have to go to a religious school to get that. Virtually every school teaches to the party line and not to factual history. Write a factual paper, get an F(you were lucky to get the C). Students are taught to think along socially appropriate ways and make the fact match.
Report Post »irishamrep
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 2:11amYou are so right it seems the non catholics usually can see more clearly! Good for you and good for your son when he was in School I bet he is a very successful man.
Report Post »It’s shameful, some of them I don’t think this Pope will let it go on! Now I must say there are a group of sisters that care for the Eldery The Little Sisters of the Poor, wonderful Order, the real deal as living for Christ!
mficentral
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 9:11amMAMMACUB………….never mind the honorary degree, what about the fact that the priest covered up the holy statutes and pictures of Christ at the request of obummer. Can you imagine denying Christ to that man. “Whomever denies me on earth, I will deny in Heaven”. There is a group of priest that should be looked into also. I just can’t understand how an institution like Notre Dame doing such a shameful thing.
Report Post »TakeBackUSA
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:27pmI was comforted to read recently about how Pope Benedict has been actively trying to deal with the erosion in the faith by getting the right people in place…i.e..the true believers. These are the ones who still follow the traditional teachings and belief system…those that don’t accept the ramblings of “social justice that you hear from so many corners. Just as with our out-of-control government, it has to be “back to the basics” if we are to survive.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:01pmi agree. Catholic organizations and clergy need to adhere to the tenets of the faith. If they don’t believe them and support them, they aren’t Catholic.
Report Post »leklogic
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:36pmI also agree.The Pope is still surrounded, but is trying very hard to right the wrongs in the church. I pray that he can get more done. The nuns have been infiltrated for the past 35 yrs. My Great Aunt was a mother superior at a Benedictine convent and as a child watched the changes.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:01pmGood for the Pope. ( I am Baptist) But good for the Pope. He needs to straighten them all out.
Report Post »Lost Rebel
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:58pmIt is about time the Vatican enforces the doctrine of the church to the Catholic Church of America!!!
Report Post »mficentral
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 9:21amJust look at how many democrat “catholics” in Congress that attend Church and Communion and support abortion. Let’s pray the Pope and the Church can “adjust” the practices of these fakes.
Report Post »Johann
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:35pmStarting in the sixties thousands of nuns and priests decided that they no longer wanted to believe in the magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church but rather in the sacredness of the Democrat party. However they still wanted the privileges and money that came along with being college professors. So they decided to pretend that they were still religious but live a life of secularism and progressive values. This has done untold damage to the Church and it is about time that something is being done. These Catholic schools should no longer be allowed to advertise themselves as Catholic; especially places like Georgetown a former elite Catholic school which is now an American Secular school. The remaining nuns and priests who no longer profess any form of traditional Christianity should as a matter of honor quit and join the ranks of Federal employees with whom they have so much in common. To be a Catholic is to willingly accept the teachings of a two thousand year old institution which was founded by Jesus Christ himself. God bless Pope Benedict who has started the cleaning process of this Augean stable. Extra Ecclesiam nemo salvus erit.
Report Post »HelloWorld
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:55pmJohann,
Report Post »Thank you for your perfectly educated response. I couldn’t have said it better myself. God Bless
OldGuy66
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:59pmAmen brother! About time the church calls these groups to task for not following church teachings. If they want to be liberal crusaders, let them join some democrat party bs group. To proclaim you are Catholic and yet pursue ideologies that are inherently anti-Catholic is disingenuous.
Report Post »voxpopuli2012
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:18pmWell said. Thank you.
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:45pmOne thing that gives me hope for the future is the number of large Catholic families home schooling in our Parish, also the number of very devout young people not afraid to show their love for Jesus and the Church.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 11:42pmOver the past several decades the Catholic church has slowly been sliding into the dictatorship of relativism and Liberalism that has infected our society. I pray for Pope Benedict and for all of the Bishops that they will persevere and remain faithful. At the last supper a dispute arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. Jesus said to Peter “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” God Bless you Pope Benedict, the gates of Hell will not prevail……
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:34pmIt is about time that the Church does something about these socialist nuns. They have been teaching anti-Christ (& anti-church) doctrine for years.
Report Post »infortheride
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 5:51pmSo many, so uneducated. The communist said back in the late 40′s they only way to defeat the US would be to infiltrate, schools, politics, and religion. So far they have succeeded, but they WILL BE STOPPED!!!
Report Post »shimauma
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:29pmThe nunnery was being infiltrated by lesbian earth worshippers anyway. If they would disband the whole nun/priest concept none of these issues (homosexual lifestyles,pedophiles,communists) would come up as severely as they do now.
Report Post »coachlips
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:25pmObviously you know nothing of the Catholic Church and know little, if anything, about statistics. Otherwise you would know that the pedophilia rate of Catholic priests to which you refer is much lower than the public at large, that the Church is not a democracy, it is a Theological Monarchy, and that if you don’t follow Church doctrine to the letter, you are not a Catholic.
Report Post »karenm
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:01pmI am beginning to agree with that statement.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:24pm@COACHLIPS
Christianity… was Organized by the Imperial Roman Emperor Constantine, around 333 ad… and he gave one of titles, Pontifix Maximus, to the High Priest of the Christian Temple of Rome, now translated as Pope. In 800 add, Leo III, Bishop of Rome was fired in Constantinople, and went to Rome… where he crowned Charlemagne as Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (West), and he was crowned Pope (High Priest).
The point is: The Pope is not a Monarch… Theological nor otherwise!
Report Post »geonj
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:54pm@lukerw
Report Post »Jesus declared Peter as His rock, and said on this rock He would build His Church. this began the seccession of leaders of the Church. whether constantine gave them to title of pope or not is irrelevant to church teaching. the present day Mass was established on holy thursday as was the priesthood. constantine convertited to Christianity as a result of his mothers faith. he ended the persecution of Christians, he did not create the Catholic church. Catholic, for those who do not know, means universal church. all other christian churchs are groups who were to weak to follow the divinely created and infallable leadership of the universal church. ie the Pope, who is the only one who’s word bound on earth is bound, as well, in heaven.
lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:02pmIt’s about Time; Thank GOD!
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:52pmPeter was the first Pope. All good Catholics know that the Pope is not a Monarch. He is the visible head of the Church on earth.
Report Post »truthseekerusa
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:54pmSanger did not want Blacks polluting the gene pool so she figured out how to keep them from bringing more babies into the world.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:04pmTry to tell that to the blacks, abortion was ment for them
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:07pmThis Fact… is True!
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:38pmRemove all material referencing “social justice” which is code word for Communism. Good for the Catholic church, they need to weed out all the Marxists in their ranks too. We are all Catholics now and we will be ever vigilant!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:51pmAmen … so to speak ;-)
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:21pmChange hearts live definitions.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:32pmanother group that has been infiltrated by the communist, ,( communism infects the body and soul )
Report Post »karenm
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:26pmHey blaze readers answer this question. I asked a catholic priest about his opinion on Obama and the Catholic church and he said he didn’t have an opinion. What’s the deal? Is he hiding?
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:32pmHe may well have thought that when speaking about a particular politician, that it would be inappropriate for him to comment. He might feel more comfortable addressing a specific issue.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:35pmHE is not hiding anything, the Priest knows that ht epope and Cardinals have gone made with political power and its better to stay silent than oppose the old men in robes.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:37pmHe might not have an opinion. More likely he thought it was a set-up. If you asked him while he was acting in his office as a priest (and, note, that you’re a priest 24/7), telling you to vote, or not vote, for Obama could land him in hot water.
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:43pmencinom, he should follow the Church, not stand against it.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:04pmWho is the Church, an ex-nazi sitting on a throne in Rome or the people, the laity? The Church has become a political body and is tempting a new, American Reformation. The Pope and Cardinals have lost touch with the American Catholic, the American Catholic no longers agrees with the teaching of the Church on Birth Control and other social issues.
Additionally, the Cardinals now have found a new Torquemada in Bill Donohue to harass support groups for the victims of Priest abuse.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:13pmThe agreement between the First Pope and the Roman Emperor was: The Church will handle matters dealing with Heaven; and, The State will handle matters dealing with the Earth. Thereby, Obama, as a person… is not a Heavenly Matter!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:35pmencinom – they haven’t lost touch, they are agressively dealing with the problems. Look up Bella Dodd and read her story. She tells of how Communists have infiltrated the Church and our government. Cleaning house is vital. You make a lot of inaccurate statements.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:51pmencinom – Joseph Ratzinger has explained that his membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory — it wasn’t his personal choice to join and he certainly didn’t join out of any personal conviction that the Nazis were right. Despite being a member, he refused to attend any meetings. Attendance would have reduced the cost of his schooling at the seminary, yet this did not deter him.
According to Joseph Ratzinger, it was “impossible” to resist the Nazis. Being so young, it wasn’t plausible for him to do anything against the Nazis and the atrocities they were committing. Nevertheless, the Ratzinger family did object to the Nazis and as a consequence were forced to move four times. It’s not as though they passively and quietly accepted what is going on, as many other families did.
Unlike George Soros who helped the nazis by sending his neighbors to camps and said it was the best time of his life!!!! I believe both the Pope and Soros were the same age at that time.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 5:12pmBella Dodd’s Exposure of Communism – henrymakow.com
Report Post »Bella Dodd’s Exposure of Communism . August 3, 2010 By Henry Makow Ph.D (originally posted in March 2003) Bella Dodd was a leader of the Communist Party of America …
http://www.savethemales.ca/160303.html – Cached
Sonnys_Mom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:25pmThe priest you spoke with may simply have chosen to reserve comment, nothing more. Traditionally, during “formation” (the process of training for the priesthood, which lasts at 8 years or more) there is a big emphasis on not casting judgment, as the priest is seen as representing the teachings of Jesus… and even the most hardened ideologue is free choose to change his/her views. (Yes, there are exceptions, including many priests ordained during the 1970s and 1980s, when theological foundations in some seminaries became compromised. Recently there have been reforms to prevent the kinds of problems and abuses that began to appear in some seminaries during those years.)
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:49pm@Sonnys_Mom
So what is your point, that we should abandon our free will, turn off our minds and blindly follow what others have to say?
The Pope and Cardinals are nothing more than flawed men, who have become drunk on imgained power. Their opinions are no more true than the opinions of any of the laity. In fact the Pope and Cardinals have proven that their quest for political power is more important than anyhting else, how else do you explain their active role in preventing outside investigations into the priest scandals.
I thought Beckerheads were taught to question with boldness, or is that just a lie and doesn’t apply to those in power.
Report Post »voxpopuli2012
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:17pmEncinom said, “The Pope and Cardinals have lost touch with the American Catholic, the American Catholic no longers agrees with the teaching of the Church on Birth Control and other social issues.” Actually, its the other way around. The American church, (omission of Catholic and uncapitalized church intentional), (mis)led by many priests, bishops and nuns, have lost touch with Catholicism. Judging by your comments, you (like any in the American church) appear to think that Catholicism is a democracy. It is not. Like all religions, it is a discipline. You have free will to choose the path that Christ set out, the path that leads to Him, or to choose the opposite path, with the potential punishment that waits at the end of your life. Personally, I believe in Catholicism, but not in the practice of the American church. The problem with the American church is that it has abandoned the teachings of Catholicism. Birth control and abortion are two keep “social issues” where the it has failed to teach and explain the logic and beauty of Catholicism’s teachings. Instead, the bishops and priests cowered, not wanting to offend or stand in front of “progress.” We, as a society and as a religious faith, are paying a heavy price for that failure.
Report Post »DesdemonasCrew
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:18pm@encinom
Report Post »Why not? You turned off your mind a long time ago. Now you are merely a puppet, and a poorly manipulated one at that.
sodacrackers2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:58pmOur parishes here in Cleveland had letters read by the Bishops saying we would not comply with Obamacare. We say a prayer after every Mass for the protection of conscience rights in our country.
Report Post »Judeo_Christian
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:12pmENCINOM…You speak with the perfect tongue of Satan. You put a few truths in what you write, then lie with deceit
.
The Pope and the Cardinals are in deed fallible men on their own. However, when speaking under enormously unusual situations where either the Pope or the Magisterium of the Church speak Ex Cathedra on matters of faith or morals, The Holy Spirit provides the protection from teaching in error. So it is The Holy Spirit, third person of the Holy Trinity who is indeed perfect and infallible. With God, all things are possible.
The Pope and/or the Magisterium teaching Ex Cathedra (evoking infallibility) has only occurred a few times in my lifetime.
ENCINOM…I will continue to pray for you.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:05am@JUDEO_CHRISTIAN – Precisely, God Bless You
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:37pm@JUDEO_CHRISTIAN
Well said.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:22pmBetter not just hit the nuns but the priests as well. A lot of them have gone off the rails too.
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:36pmI agree, but the Church is already addressing that issue. The Vatican has been placing more conservative Bishops over dioceses, and the newer priests are more devout than their 1960s and 1970s generation counterparts.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:06pmThe Pope and Cardinals are at war with the Laity. The American Catholics are abandoning the hard liners this ex-nazi has placed in positions of power.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:28pm@ENCINOM
Report Post »Catholics are the oldest Western Christians… as an alternate, you can turn to Egyptian Copts or Eastern Othodox versions… or just create your own Sect alike so many others!
barber2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:30pmENCINOM: If the Pope and the Cardinal are at war with the laity , who do you think knows more about the doctrines ? Part of believing is obeying the rules and having the humility to follow them. In our current ” It’s All About Special Me ” culture, those are two behaviors which have become endangered species . I think you have the cart before the horse. Some of the laity are at war with church doctrines. Funny thing is , these same independent Catholics would not want Big Brother Government telling them what to do either ! How did Americans get to be the Human Mic Robots we see at those Democrat mob scenes ? What turned our young into these non-thinking, zombies ?
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:04pmEncinom
My husband, myself and my children are all “Lay” people and we support the Pope on this (Combined we have over 50 years of Catholic education and service to the church). If anything we have held our noses and gone to mass DESPITE the lefty messages from some pastors.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:24pmAxelPhantom
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:04pm
Encinom
My husband, myself and my children are all “Lay” people and we support the Pope on this (Combined we have over 50 years of Catholic education and service to the church). If anything we have held our noses and gone to mass DESPITE the lefty messages from some pastors.
Report Post »_______________
I come from a large Catholic family, former altar boy and all, the ex-Nazi and the Cardinals have declared war on laity, supported by Bill Donohue and other fringe players they seek to stop the independant streak of the American Catholic. What you call “left messages” are echos of the teachings of the last pope and his support for the workers and the common man, not the current one’s power grab.
NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:53pmencinom – did you read what I posted above about the Pope? You keep repeating the same thing even when you have been proven wrong. That doesn’t fall into the intelligent catagory. Your nazi pope posting is a lie! Please get informed.
Report Post »Judeo_Christian
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:15pmThe Pope and Cardinals are not at war with laity. They are at war with people who say they are Catholic, but promote lifestyles, activities, and teaching in contradiction to Church doctrine. The Catholic Church is not a democracy. It is a Monarcy with Jesus Christ as King and the Pope as Chancelor (holding the keys to the Kingdom).
Encinom…more lies and deceit.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:22pmThe Catholic Church is at war with itself.
Report Post »Benedict is a conservative but he has lost control.
DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:37pmBenedict is, in fact, slowly gaining control. Rank and file Catholics frequently did not recognize that this problem has existed for years. The corner has already been turned.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:06pmNO… His platform has always been… a smaller Unified Chruch is better than a large Divided Church!
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:12pmCulture of death is political?
Report Post »Goldi
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:21pmMarybethelizabeth: got some hate on there gal. Watch your spelling etc., or people will start to think you don’t know much.
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:20pmMARYBETHELIZABETH
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:10pm
We are not all Catholics now, no matter what Mr. Beck says
It would make more sense to air the plethora of dirty laundry about the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints, on this website, wspecially sine it’s an issue in the upcoming presidential election.
Hey what dirty laundry would that be? Cause I tell ya we could talk about the sorted affairs and spending of former Evangelicals Baker and Swaggart. And many others.
Report Post »but let’s look at one basic FACT:
in the USA we have freedom of
religion so a man or woman can worship according to the dictates of their own concience within the confines of the established laws of the state and country .
Why not embrace the freedoms afforded and celebrate the common ground instead of focusing on the negative and conflicting points of doctrinal interpretations ( which almost all sect have).
kaydeebeau
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:12pmDo you even have the slightest notion as to what the hisotrical context of the statement “we are all Catholics (or Jews) now” is? Apparently not….The mere thought that it needs to be explained to you is troubling in and of itself
Report Post »alwayshappy
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:20pmLong over-due! I fear way too many of our so-called relgious have all but lost their way in the Church.
Report Post »They live, act, and speak as lay women and no one who meets them in public would even know they belong to a religious community. Sadly, too many of them don’t even livei n community! How can they justify that? And while they dress in the attire of laity, more often than not, their example is sorely lacking! Just what is religious life all about? Is it little wonder that the laity are less than inspired? And in all too many cases the work that these so-called ‘religious’ do is totally secular! Since when? Why!
JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:22pmThese Orders have 0 recruits.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:17pmHallelujah! Now, if they’ll do the same for the priesthood….
And, if the CHRISTIANS will retake their faiths and kick the liberals out….
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:26pmOops…“faiths” should read “denominations”…. sorry `bout that.
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:41pmCatholic is not a denomination.
Report Post »Pray for USA
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:14pmThis is great news and long overdue.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:20pmSomehow I think it will be too little too late for alot of the churches are infested with sectular catholic.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:26pmLeaven goes a-long Way.
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:13pmYes!!
Report Post »yanki161
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:12pmGood. The Church is right in getting rid of communists hiding behind their habits.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:10pmWe are not all Catholics now, no matter what Mr. Beck says.
It would make more sense to air the plethora of dirty laundry about the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints, on this website, wspecially sine it’s an issue in the upcoming presidential election.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:18pmI am a protestant married to a Catholic. We are raising our kids Catholic. Last Sunday, the preist called all the children down to the front of the church and talked about how “communism is what Jesus advocated” and compared monastical life to the Soviet Union.
There can be no doubt that the Catholic Church has lost its way, which is really, really sad…..
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:23pmno he didn’t.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:24pmUm, Romney’s religion is not an issue in the election. Perhaps over at your liberal blog sites it is, but you all miss the point in everything political anyways. Besides, if you want to attack Mormons…Start with Harry Reid…What’s the matter, your bias won’t let you??
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:27pm@3monkeysmomma: You have to be kidding?!! Not only would I have other parents at the rectory trying to ride this guy out of town but I‘d be on the phone to anyone I could find in the archdiocese demanding he be sent somewhere he can’t cause harm.
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:34pm3Monkies, some priests have. But thankfully, they are being replaced by younger, more devout priests. Jesus had to deal with this issue with Judas as well.
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:39pmYou sound negative on Catholics and Mormons. I might spend some time looking in the mirror if I were you.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:45pm@Marybeth
“We are not all Catholics now, no matter what Mr. Beck says.”
I agree, but for different reasons than what yours seem to be. If you conflate all of Christianity, then you lose the VERY important theological distinctions that make you believe your denomination is the right one. If I believed in Joseph Smith, I’d be a Mormon. But I don’t. If I believed in transubstantiation, I’d be a Catholic. But I don’t.
Beck’s point, obviously, was that we need to stand together or fall apart. I think saying “We’re all Catholics” is the wrong way to go about it. I prefer “We’re all Americans,” personally, or if it is specific to religion, “We’re all children of God.” That even includes those who don’t believe in Christ (like Jews).
“It would make more sense to air the plethora of dirty laundry about the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints, on this website, wspecially sine it’s an issue in the upcoming presidential election.”
Unless there’s news about LDS recently launching an investigation and overhaul into its associations, your comment makes no sense at all. This isn’t about the faith of the candidates, but faith in general. If you have a story on LDS overhauls, you have a point. Post it here (and submit it to The Blaze), and we’ll be happy to read it.
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Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:46pmYou are what you believe… and will fight and die for!
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Posted on April 18, 2012 at 5:03pm3monkeysmomma – If I had been in that church, I would have stood up, taken the children away from the front and made a statement to all present that that priest should be kicked out of the church and all parents should keep their children away from him. If we don’t stand against the Communists that infiltrated the Church, they will continue their agenda. Search Bella Dodd on the internet and read her story. She tells of the Communist infiltration of the church and the government.
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Posted on April 18, 2012 at 6:04pmNHwinter
Report Post »Beckerheads are nothing more that paranoid little McCarthy’s looking for reds under their beds.
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Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:47pmencinom – did you take the time to read about Bella Dodd? You would be looking for reds under your bed if you had read it. If you were informed, you would be very worried too.
Report Post »Free2speakRN
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 9:47am3monkeysmomma,
If what you are saying is true, Don’t lose any time. Find out who the Bishop is in your area and make a loud complaint. Ask other people there what ‘they’ heard. If it sounds like there was no misunderstanding, the man has to be turned in. Do it NOW!!!
The Catholic Church has mainly good priests by far.There are ‘some’ that are not teaching the Catholic Teaching. St Thomas Aquinas wrote about the ‘Totality of the CC’. Everything that is taught is to be believed ‘down to the last article’. I accept it all. I may not live up to everything, but having high principles is good. If we fail because of human weakness, it doesn’t make one a hypocrit. Hypocrasy always involves a ‘lie’.
Again as a Catholic I am saying you better speak up, for all our good. You can do it. I certainly would. Charity is Not communism.
Back to the nuns, they are going to have to fall in line, or not call themselves Catholic anymore. It’s about time, yeah, but Pope John Paul 2 was breaking up the USSR. Pope Benedict has cracked down on pedophilia, plus both, so so much more. Watch EWTN ‘World Over’. They tell the good ‘and’ the bad going on.
A priest won’t tell you who to vote for, only talk about an issue, that may be obvious. Abortion?
The last sentence our priest said in the sermon was, “We are Entitled to Nothing.” Going out I gave him the elbow. “Good Sermon. I caught that last line.” He just gave me back his smile.
Report Post »imsteph
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:09pmjust was out on a site covering the arizona abortion bill-and the hate that was being spewed against jan brewer and all of arizona for standing up for the unborn was palpable. making it sound like republicans were all about imprisoning with and beating them down—taking away their RIGHTS to kill their own babies.
as a mother-it was all i could do.
so i made a profile and left a little message:
wow-such hate.
what about the babies rights?
and yes i said baby.
with my first child i ended up very ill and had to have early and frequent ultra sounds-at 6 weeks my daughter was absolutely a baby…hands, legs, feet, heart beating, head moving-baby.
if a jury has to be present when a convicted criminal is put to death-why shouldn’t a woman have to face her baby before he/she is put to death?
just saying-
with life there are infinite choices and possibilities…with abortion-just one.
now i am not condemning any woman who has had an abortion-i am condemning the propagation of the lies of the left and the media ….
try finding out how planned parenthood came about…margaret sanger is a real peach of a racist & euthanasia proponent …she wanted to wipe out the black race from the face of the earth…
parrhesiastes
Report Post »Travelassie
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:35pmAnd you sound just as rabid as those to whom you responded . I‘m sure you’re proud of yourself, but there’s nothing original in what you said…..
And your comments about Margaret Sanger show just as much “hate” (and misinformation) as any of those left show just as much “hate” as those you speak of on the other side…….
Report Post »DivineWordRadio
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:38pmTravelassie, imsteph is right about Sanger.
Report Post »PubliusMaximus
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:37pmTravellassie, read Margaret Sanger’s own words- she was not shy about talking about the inferior races and what could be done about reducing their birth rates.
No question at all that she was both a racist and a eugenicist, just as was Hitler. As I said, read her own words, and stop believing in your fem-lib myth. The truth about Sanger and her ilk is quite ugly.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 11:26pm@TRAVELASSIE
You are either misinformed, a liar or you are in denial.
There is little doubt that Margaret Sanger believed in Eugenics and wanted to eliminated the less intelligent and the “inferior races” from the US.
Go on youtube and you can hear her say these things in her own words.
The truth will set you free.
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