Victory Vid: Teen Atheist Behind Prayer Mural Ban Instructs Fellow Students How to Do the Same
- Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:30am by
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The prayer mural at the center of the controversy
Jessica Ahlquist, the teen atheist who successfully fought the presence of a prayer mural at her high school, has issued a YouTube response following her victory.
The video, posted under username “AnEvilLittleThing” — clearly a reference to the characterization given to her by Rhode Island State Representative Peter Palumbo — addresses her victory, critics’ statements and her future plans to benefit the atheist community.
Ahlquist answers 10 of the most pressing questions she received following her battle against the banner. She first provides advice to high school students who may be looking to have chaplains removed from their schools. In the beginning of this process, she tells viewers to simply approach school officials and politely inquire.
Jessica Ahlquist (left) (AP)
“You should first approach them, talk to them, ask them to remove it nicely,” she explains. “If they say ‘no’ — if they’re giving you a lot of trouble — you should probably contact either the ACLU, the Freedom From Religion Foundation or the Secular Student Alliance.”
Additionally, the 16-year-old reaffirmed her plans to continue working as an activist in the atheist community and discussed the importance of her non-belief to her identity.
“I wouldn‘t say that I go shoving atheism down anyone else’s throat,” she said. “I just feel passionately about activism and specifically activism for atheism.”
She encouraged viewers to make the world a better place by getting involved in addressing their qualms. For her own role in removing the banner, Ahlquist addressed the criticism she’s been receiving, calling attacks on her both “petty” and “immature.” The attacks, she says, are “beneath” her, though she admits that the criticisms are painful.
When it comes to U.S. District Court Judge Ronald Lagueux, who ruled in Ahlquist’s favor, she had nothing but praise, as she specifically addressed the compliments he paid her during in his written decision.
“He turned out to be a really cool judge,” she said. “He wrote that I was an articulate, courageous young woman in his decision. And that was — I was so flattered. It was just awesome for him to say that.”
Below, watch Ahlquist’s commentary:
(H/T: WPRO)
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nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:14amAnd for the record, Hitler let Christianity influence a lot of his decision making: http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
If you ignore history, you’re doomed to repeat it. Sounds a lot like the people on this thread.
You can’t deny what Hitler did with Christianity.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:20am“You can’t deny what Hitler did with Christianity.”
you atheists are blindingly ignorant.
Hitler was either an atheist, or an occultist.
and he surely was a darwinist….he followed your atheist god darwin’s eugenics to the letter…
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:24amWeak argument. Very weak.
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:26amNo, he was Christian. A lot of what he believed was based on Christian faith. See, Atheists do their homework and know a little bit about how to argue points with theists. That’s the problem. You can deny all you want the truth, but in the end, you know you’re wrong. Prove Hitler was an Atheist then. Show historical evidence that he was not a Christian.
Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:26am@non
Why take your precious time in effort to destroy what others believe – wouldn’t you feel better by pushing/defending your own beliefs instead? Your posts seem pretty negative.
Ok – Hitler based his decisions using Christianity. I however, have seen many beautiful things arise from those who are Christians. I think it adds more good than bad in this world.
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:26amI hope you meant weak argument for him.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:27am“Hitler was either an atheist, or an occultist.”
Which one is it? I mean, he couldn’t be both, and you seem pretty convinced that he’s not a Christian, so you must know what he actually was.
If not, how about I give you a hint? He was insane! Insanity, hatred, and murder holds itself to no specific creed or faith. It’s part of humanity no matter what people claim to follow or believe in.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:29am@nomnomnom
That’s just plain stupidity! Catch a clue man, Hitler didn’t practice Christianity, he was a mad man. He thought he had a destiny to rid the world of Jews. His brand of Christianity was a complete perversion of what Jesus taught.
The religion of godless Atheism has been responsible for more deaths throughout the world in the 20th century than all forms of supposed Christian wars or purges such as the Crusades.
Why is it that Atheists don’t have a clue how to think?
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:29amIn actuality Hitler took the Talmud and made it Aryan. He changed Jews from being the chosen people to Aryans being the chosen. He claimed the lands to the east, just like Jews claim Palestine. He committed his holocausts just like Moses and Joshua committed theirs.
Report Post »Hitler was Old Testament, not New Testament, post-Christ, Christian.
scinfidel
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:30am@nomnomnom So when Hitler said, directly referring to Christianity, “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.”(one of many anti-Christian quotes). The fact that Christian worship the King of the Jews and are instructed to pray for Israel and the Jewish people, while he was dedicated to ‘their’ destruction… When he was rising to power, like many politicians claim for expediency(Hey Obama), he claimed as a populist thing to be a Christian but as his power increased his true beliefs surfaced.
Atheists like to point to the fact that he was an alter boy when he was child but Darwin was also deeply religious as a young man and turned his back on the faith.
Reality is atheists have killed more people this century(Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler etc.) than all religions combined… but I have a feeling Islam is fighting hard to catch up.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:31amThis girl is a wanna be Atheist. If she believed what she is saying, she would have already changed her name to Jesibelle and if she were a boy it would be Judas.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:35amHitler used Christanity to gather his nazis but he wasn’t following anything remotely Christians in his quest for power and genocide of the jews. In other words he claimed bt be Christian to relate to the average German however he wasn’t a Christian in any sense of the word. Fact is Ann Frank was hidden by a Christian Family following the word of God.
Report Post »aND EVEN hITLER HIMSELF SAID “National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity”
rEMIND AGAIN WHAT DOES NAZI STAND FOR“ NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY”
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:38amFuture Community Organizer.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:38am“No, he was Christian. A lot of what he believed was based on Christian faith. See, Atheists do their homework and know a little bit about how to argue points with theists. That’s the problem. You can deny all you want the truth, but in the end, you know you’re wrong. Prove Hitler was an Atheist then. Show historical evidence that he was not a Christian.”
really, then tell us what church he attended when he was fuhrer….oh thats right…he didn’t…hmmm…why wouldn‘t that good ’christian’ hitler attend church?
oh and why did he put SO many christians in concentration camps??
oh don‘t worry I know you can’t answer…you atheists, who think you’re SO clever…can‘t think for yourselves and you sure can’t answer anything without restorting to a talking point…..
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:39amIt is a weak argument that Hitler was a Christian.
Hitler had a crazy idea of some utopian world. There are lots of these crazies running about in any generation, he just happened to come to grab the reins of real power over others. If anything, Hitler thought of himself as a God.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:41am@nomnomnom
You can always tell an atheist because they don’t have a clue about logic.
Here are a few prize followers of your religion of Atheism:
Alfred Kinsey – Sex pervert who exploited children. Much of his work was fraud.
Report Post »Jeffrey Dahmer – was an atheist and ate people after he killed them.
Mao Zedong – Let 45,000,000 starve because he was too blind to see that communism didn’t work. Oh yea, he didn’t believe in God either.
Pol Pot – Butcher of Cambodia
Joseph Stalin – Killed 40 to 50 million of his own countrymen and more than 100,000 priests, nuns and monks.
Kim Jong Il – Need I say more?
byehlik
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:51amI am glad to see that when the civil war comes, and it will, the targets are no longer hiding. Cleanup should be a snap!
Report Post »CRiggsby
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:53amYou guys fell for it. This douche bag wanted to change the focus of the story from this confused **** to Hitler and you followed right along. This is part of their strategy. It is just like magic. Watch this hand and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:53amThe media love to use the youthful against the masses. She is yet another lost soul herself but leading others to the same damnation is more than being ignorant its a grave sin.
Thomas Paine
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:55amOne sees more and more the atheist bring up the lie that Hitler was a Christian.
The point of arguing this is merely an implication: if Hitler was a Christian
than Christianity doesn’t realty change one’s life or help one to be good.
Some even go so far as to imply that Christian teaching will make you into a nazi!
I’ve just recently had a major
argument (10/5/07) on a message board with atheist several of whom asserted that
all Christians are guilty of the Holocaust! As the Dawkinsians transform atheism
into a hate group the potential for violent retributions grows hotter and hotter.
But the desrie for vengeance is all in vein because it is nothing more than a
slanderous lie, Hitler was not a Christian.
Hitler said some Christian sounding things in his campaign speeches, of course
he did. He would have been a fool to say “I am evil and i want to destroy society
and launch us into a two front war we can’t win, vote for me.” Atheists naively
assume we can trust his campaign speeches just as we would a personal diary,
but most of us know you can’t trust anything a politician says in a camping!
In the 1930’s voters in major Western countries expected Christian candidates
even more than they do now.
Hitler’s Private Statements
found on:
Asnwers in ;Action
The book Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar,
Report Post »Straus and Young, I
smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:56amShow historical evidence that he was not a Christian.
Report Post »Here are some Historical quotes from Hitler
1 “National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity”
2 “Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure”
3 “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.” 19/10/1941
4 “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery”
Hitler was not Christian he played to the Christian to gather strength once in power he played against them. Hitler was an average Democrat union leader until he had complete power then he became a tyrant.Then everything changed and fast.
ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:56amWhat Stalin and or Mao did with communism dwarfs anything that Hitler did through the socalled Christian churches in Germany. That manmade religion called Marxism has been the scourge of the planet ever since. Millions have perished in its utopian dream pursuits.
Report Post »Thomas Paine
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:57am@nomnomnom
One sees more and more the atheist bring up the lie that Hitler was a Christian.
The point of arguing this is merely an implication: if Hitler was a Christian
than Christianity doesn’t realty change one’s life or help one to be good.
Some even go so far as to imply that Christian teaching will make you into a nazi!
I’ve just recently had a major
argument (10/5/07) on a message board with atheist several of whom asserted that
all Christians are guilty of the Holocaust! As the Dawkinsians transform atheism
into a hate group the potential for violent retributions grows hotter and hotter.
But the desrie for vengeance is all in vein because it is nothing more than a
slanderous lie, Hitler was not a Christian.
Hitler said some Christian sounding things in his campaign speeches, of course
he did. He would have been a fool to say “I am evil and i want to destroy society
and launch us into a two front war we can’t win, vote for me.” Atheists naively
assume we can trust his campaign speeches just as we would a personal diary,
but most of us know you can’t trust anything a politician says in a camping!
In the 1930’s voters in major Western countries expected Christian candidates
even more than they do now.
Hitler’s Private Statements
found on:
Asnwers in ;Action
The book Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar,
Report Post »Straus and Young, I
k1607
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:58amHitler was never a Christian-he used Christianity because he knew if he used it to his advantage he would create a following. If he was such a Christian…he would not have replaced the Bible with Mein Kampf in schools and throughout Germany. He would not have promoted burning the Bible, and he would not have hated the Catholic church (I‘m not Catholic so don’t think I am just because I stated a fact). He made statements against Christianity…one being “‘It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and blood.’” in 1933. A Jewish professor quoted, “They wanted to go back to a pagan world, beautiful, naturalistic, where natural hierarchies based on the supremacy of the strong would be established, because strong equaled good, powerful equaled civilized.” He often made comments that he wanted to rid the world of Christianity and Jews, and become the leader of a new world order. Those who could not support his Anti-Semetic views…were often arrested, had to flee the country, or even placed in camps. Hitler is like numerous politicians…he said what he needed in order to get into power. Once in power, he tried to control the church, control the people, and waged war on anyone who would not follow him. The only true God Hitler followed, was himself.
As for Jessica Ahlquist…here’s my take http://kayecandles.hubpages.com/hub/Rhode-Island-Judge-Rules-in-Favor-of-Jessica-Ahlqu
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:59amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdEUYn-6s_I
Report Post »urrybr
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:01amHitler was an occultist. He believed in Norse and Aryan mythology. Darwinism was a confirmation of those beliefs. Eugenics actually began in the U.S. and England in the early part of the 20th century. Hitler’s favorite periodical was written by a rogue Catholic priest. It was the Ostara. This periodical explained the “science” of pure race, and Aryan mythology. It’s writer, Jorg Lantz, was deeply entrenched in the occult. Hitler was enamoured with occultism, and his henchman, Heinrich Himmler was also an ardent follower. It was through the occultist beliefs, Darwinism, eugenics, and Aryan mythology that the “Final Solution” was created. The Nazis were essentially satanists/occultists, . . . pagans.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:04amJom Jones was a Christian as well who led his own to suicide. But that does not make Christians evil, it just makes them used by a mad man who was influenced not by God but by Satan. Hitler in no way equals the teachings of Christ. Hitler was a demon filled mad man and that is not Christianity. Those who try to distort this matter are always the same ones looking for some reason/s to not turn to God through Christs saving grace because they were told that a man called this or that did evil things in the name of Jesus. Even Jesus said many will come in my name but do not follow them. Many will do things in my name and he will say get away from me you evil person I do not know you. Satan can manipulate the Church this is true, but that Church would not be Christs it would be Satans. Anything done against Gods commandments and the teachings of Jesus is not of God and cannot be attributed to God. Stop making excuses for not believing in God, get onboard the train to heaven because the one your on is the express straight to hell.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:09amMore over anyone that did the things Hitler did couldn’t use Christanity in any way to Justify it. As it goes against every single solitary thing Christ taught. If Stalin was a buddist and murdered the 30 million russians as he did would you blame those death on budda. If Mao was a vegan would you blame the death of the 65 million that died under him on vegainism. Point being political ideology and power aspirations not religion are what lead to the deaths of over 100,000,000 million people the 20th century during a time of general peace. social darwinism,communism,marxism all death machines of the power elites
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:10amObama also claims to be a Christian!!!! Did you vote for him?????
Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. He does not come in his true form, he comes to deceive, slander, manipulate, campaign for his realm, he knows the scriptures and he will use them in a deceiptful way to cause men to murder, rape, rob, assault, steal from others. He is about causing men to make a choice, a choice that then causes them to sow their lot and soul to him. If they die in this condition they will see eternal death with him. If they turn and repent, they will receive life everlasting. Don’t believe the lie so you can die in your ignorance that you ca dismiss God.
Report Post »slordax
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:16amhitler? is that the best you can counter with? pfff.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:35amHey! Atheists. Jesus predicted that there will be someone who will use his name, this is a FALSE prophet. Hitler, Fidel Castro, Obama, Chavez, etc are using the name of Jesus to trap people. Mattew 24:5, and still I don’t know any atheist is NOT better and sour, and usually very discomfortable people
Report Post »destrecht
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:38amYeah- that’s why he imprisoned and killed all the priests and nuns. His main spiritual adviser was Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini. That’s why he took down the crucifixes and put his picture up. Do some real research.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:42amLOCKED…you’re a feeble minded cretin. Please spare us your flaccid postulations and taunts little man.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:43amI’m not Kreskin, but I predict that this young ladies life is going to be hell. Just imagine what kind of a message she is sending to the young boys that want to date her because they believe she is going to be easy. No measuring stick of Right and Wrong.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:44amYOU’RE SENSELESS…you should take your own advice and study history…then you’d realise what abject failures your beloved socialism and communism have been.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:47am@Avengerk
Ah, Mr. Troll, good to hear from you again! Any actual thoughts to contribute, or just insults to toss around?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:49amNOMNUTS…Nazi Germany was a vehemently humanist regime. Between the Nazis, Stalin’s Russia, Maoist China, Khmer Rouge and Castro’s Cuba, these vehemently secular/humanist regimes are responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths and incarcerations. Stop regurgitating the mindless atheist drivel idiots like this little girl have been fed and wake up.
Report Post »OB-1
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:58amThis was a willfully ignorant post. Hitler used Christianity as a method to gain power. There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest he was an actual follower of Christ. Sort of like democrats voting for Romney in the primaries to keep nObama in office?
Report Post »Hailgoober
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:58am@ Nomnom
Articulately put. I am particularly struck by your statement “…what he did with Christianity”.
Is it Christianity itself that should be held accountable or the abuse of it by ill-intentioned people? People whom by their actions clearly stand outside of the teachings and principles of Jesus.
I submit that there is also ample historical evidence that Hitler used remarks and statements of faith surrounding God and Christianity as a means of propoganda and control with the German people whom were still very much influenced by a national Christian faith and were blind to his real intentions. In addition the sadistic bastard was smart and slowly wittled away at Germany with a little change here and a little change there. He did not begin mass slaughters overnight.
I believe much of his claims to be for Christianity can be legitimately disproven by the content of his actions.There have been evil men and women throughout history who have used Christian belief to commit unspeakable acts.
Many of the young lady’s conclusions are socially acceptable and based on legal precidence so I do not fault her for her stance on those points. However, there is a considerable amount of detail and accuracy missing from her conclusions. Of course she is only 16 so that is not unexpected.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:03pm@HAILGOOBER
Pretty much the best comment in the entire thread. I agree.
Report Post »I Fly Low
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:05pmNumnuts
Report Post »ANYONE can pervert ANYTHING.
Does not make there perversions valid.
Diomasach
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:06pmI just love idiot Atheists like NOM…
They constantly try to “Claim” famous people for thier side, making ridiculous claims like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were Atheists by taking thier quotes and mangling them. Then they try to take avowed Chirstian haters like Hitler and trying to claim they are Christian. Get a grip.
There have been good Christians and bad Christians throughout history.
There have been good Atheists and bad Atheists throughout history.
Deal with it.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:09pm@Avengerk
“Your mealy mouthed buffoonery doesn’t warrant any “contributing”. ”
*Shrug* Suit yourself. You’re doing a fine job of showing off what a fine intellectual fellow you can be every time you post one of your rants.
Report Post »mwilson85
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:14pm@NOM You have to realize that Hitler used Christian symbols to dupe the masses in the following his outrageous claims and positions. He was NOT a christian nor did he use Christianity to influence his decisions in a sense that he believed in Christianity. Again, you Atheists have it wrong and misinterpret what you read. Hitler was in fact born a Jew number 1, and number 2 he was a ritualistic Paganist who believed the Aryan’s were the master race and were created from the earth (not God).
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:24pmSeriously LOCKED..“shrug”? Then you offer some pathetic quip about “intellectuality” to attempt to bait me? You foppish little cretin you can‘t see when you’re outmatched.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:25pmIndeed Hitler studied Christianity, as you have, as the papacy has, as many Americans have, and they ALL got it wrong. You can not see how the wormwood polluted the waters. The waters where men drink…even the “religious.” Yes, the waters where even the religious drink have been polluted. How does one return to the source (spring, if you will) to find the pure water? It takes a lot of work. Happy are those who are working to that end. You know philosophy and things of science, right? So then you would understand that things are not always as they seem, correct? This is also true here. Take care.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:28pmHitler was an athiest and a student of Nietzsche. It was all about power.
Hitler got the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope to turn a blind eye to his murder of the Jews and Gypsies.
People use the word “Christian” very losely. Many use it to to speak of anyone who may attend or believe in the “system” of any various denominations to include Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, ………. The Bible definition is a bit different. You may use the term Christian, born again, saved, regenerated… It is not about the church you attend, it is about the individual and their relationship to God. It begins with seeing God as Holy and perfect, and seeing man as sinful and having no way to save himself. it is about seeing the price of sin paid for on a cross by the Son of God (in the flesh).
Good works does not save anyone, “for by grace are ye saved through faith”
While good works does not save, the book of James lets us know that those that are really saved will display their faith through their works. If we look at Hitler, and his works, it is obvious he was no christian. “you will know them by their fruits”.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:38pm@Avengerk
I‘m not seeing how I’m the one who is outmatched if it is you who refuse to discuss the issues and just throw out insults instead. So I’ll just nod and smile at you and repeat: every time you rant and rave, you do a fine job showing off how intellectual you are :-)
I guess we can interpret some things from your first insults: primarily, that you disagree with my assessment. So, in your view, Hitler was not insane? And, unlike several others in the thread who said the same thing (that one finds insanity and murderous violence across all creeds and beliefs), you apparently disagree? Fascinating! I realized you were out of touch with reality, but to be so warped is truly rare.
Report Post »wordweaver
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:54pmTo say that Hitler was a Christian is extremely ignorant. Read Bonhoeffer’s biography if you want to know what was really going on with the church in Germany and Hitler.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:55pmIf Hitler was some sort of ‘Christian’ as some claim, he was the polar opposite of Jesus Christ and his teachings— so he was a TERRIBLE Christian, if that. Much less someone who can be used to exemplify Christian character or behavior.
On the other hand, according to a variety of studies, those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America are more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality.
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:41pmMore leftist “Hitler was a Christian” revisionist history. Educate yourselves morons.
http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id2.html
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:47pm@nomnonnom
Report Post ».You can’t deny what Hitler did with Christianity.
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SILLY RABBIT.
Of Course We Can
Pontiac
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:59pmHitler was raised as a Roman Catholic. Clearly the propaganda he was subjected to, likely even on banners in his own school, did not have the desired effect.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian
The problem with god is that everyone that speaks for god, speaks as god. You cannot convince me that the torah was written by people any different than Marshall Applewhite or David Koresh.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:01pmYou mean like when the french turned Notre Dame into the House of Reason and raped virgins on the altar? Ya good point.
So… if all Christians are like Hitler…
Then all Atheists are corrupt like Madalyn Murray O’Hair and everyone at FFRF for that matter…
Or maybe they are more like Timothy McVeigh?
All Pro-choicers are racists like Margret Sanger?
(Note: Ever notice most of the women who are pro-choice are women you wouldn’t want to have sex with in the first place?)
All athiests are mostly gay?
All athiests are mostly communists?
You statement is naive at best. And thankfully your just a gateway for people to let out some steam over tax time. :D
Report Post »Kate7879
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:05pmSorry to tell you this, but Hitler was not a Christian. Before elected, the Pope attempted peace deals. When in power, Hitler attempted to manipulate German Christians, used propaganda, indoctrination, media control & brutality. Thousands of uncooperative priests were sent to camps. When attempts at peace failed, the Pope had openly decried ‘treating people like cattle’. It resulted in Hitler rounding up more Christians & executing them. The Pope continued through the war, this time alluding to the Nazis. Towards the end the Pope provided shelter, paid for train fair, passports. It’s estimated that the Church saved as many as 800k Jewish lives. Other estimates are lower, but the many who died in Auschwitz keeps dropping as time goes on as well.
“The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. When understanding of the universe has become widespread. Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity. Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity. And that’s why someday its structure will collapse.. the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little. Christianity the liar. We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State.” -AH 1941. I believe I read he abandoned it entirely around 1900 when his brother died.
There’s nothing Christian that Hitler or the Nazis did. And I would question the assessment, given where Christianity sprang from, or who its followers worship.
Report Post »Endstatism
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:14pmIf Hitler was so much a Christian then how come many of those who ended up in concentration camps were Catholic priests and Lutheran pastors. Jehovah`s Witnesses also ended up in those same death camps. How come Hitler was obsessed with bring back the old German pagan deities if he was Christian? Those so called Christian churches that went along with the Nazis were pretty much extensions of the government much like the “official” churches allowed by the Chinese Communist government. Progressive trolls, it would help if you would read history before you post such drivel that can get refuted in 1 minute flat.
Report Post »svan71
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:21pmHitler was a Christian as much as Obama is…that whole bless curse the Jews thing is just not understood by them …R.O.T.F.L
Report Post »tirelesspatriot
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:45pmHonestly, this is quite amusing. If Hitler were a Christian, why did he round up and execute Christians who disagreed with him? Just two examples: Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Niemoller, both pastors. Why did he replace Christian symbols with pictures of himself? And the most important question: Why on earth did he execute Jews because Christians worship Jesus, and Jesus WAS A JEW!
BTW, the Church of Atheism also now asks for and accepts donations – hmmmm, weren’t they so against that?! They’re also trying to convert others – hmmmm, another thing they criticized believers for doing. This is hypocrisy at its finest.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:12pm@rush_is_right Ok seriously Rush is rarely right. Pic a topic an try and defend it with his superficial selective arguments. His is absurdity makes him at best a comic at times.
Report Post »@RIGEL_ORION Weak…. take the time to educate yourself before you take a side based on beliefs, ideology or convenience…. http://nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
Whether he was a good christian or not is of course the central question. But you can’t deny his use of Christianity as a propaganda tool and defense of his positions.
jake_elsner
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:32pmA cocky Atheist? Never thought I’d meet another one of those!
Report Post »Hitler called Christianity, “a religion for the weak.” He often bashed Christians as feeble-minded and easy to fool. He believed strongly in astrology and followed occult practices.
But yeah, you Atheists sure do your homework.
If you don’t wanna believe in God, I don’t particularly care. But you have no right to compare me to Hitler (which is obvious BS) because I choose to.
jake_elsner
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:37pmSome of y‘all’s arguments against Atheism are just as weak as this one. True, the whole “Hitler was a Christian” argument is nonsense. But so is the whole, “So-and-so was an Atheist and he raped children.” Atheists have done good for the world and bad, same with everyone else.
Report Post »Oh, and please don’t start bashing evolution. I’ve seen a few of you try it. Evolution is just a theory…like gravity and the heliocentric model…
Cousin_of_Marx
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:03pmThis girl is my hero.
Report Post »grizzlydave
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:13pmThis school failed to teach this child that it is freedom OF religion, NOT From religion. Athiesta need to STOP trying to warp the first amendment and it’s meaning!
Report Post »RedeemedWench
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:15pmIt amazes me how some (not all) atheists go so far out of their way to force their belief in not believing on us.And how they are offended by the mere presence of something, like a cross or in this instance, a mural.
Look, most of you atheists, if you were truly comfortable in your beliefs, you would not feel the need to push them on us. And you wouldn’t get offended as much as you do.
I am confident enough in my faith (and denomination thereof) that when someone says something derogatory about it, I can simply overlook it. I don’t attack them or get defensive. I shake the dust off my feet and keep moving. Nuf said.
Report Post »palerider54
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:16pmYou are a bold faced liar, or just plain ignorant, probably both.
Hitler worshiped Satan, preformed satanic rituals and studied the occult.
The double lightning bolts on the SS collars represented the bolts of lightning where God threw Satan out of Heaven.
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:28pmAnnoy an atheist; rejoice in the Lord always.
Report Post »ressex
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:34pmIt amazes me how much energy Atheists spend fighting something they do not believe in…
Report Post »ressex
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:45pmThe Government (a school is a gov’t funded body) shall make no law concerning religion. So how does that translate into removing all evidence of religion. It does not. In fact, it means they cannot officially ban things like this banner, because that is making a rule (law) regarding a religion when they got a judge to make a ruling. They can post it, they can take it down, they cannot make a law regarding it per the Constitution. If a banner you have to intentionally stop and expel effort to read, offends you, just ignore it… and get a life…
Report Post »KStret
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:46pmWhy would a Christian accept Nordic paganism as part of the Nazi ideology? Why would a christian surround himself with people who hated Christianity? Why would a christian attack the church?
Here is a better question: Why would a group of people who are supposedly for eduction,knowledge, and reason make a false claim that can be easily disproved by opening up a history book ?
Report Post »JednaVira
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:48pmI fail to understand why you would even bring up Hitler. According to your worldview of no God and no standard of right and wrong….what Hitler did was just survival of the fittest. He did nothing wrong…right? His truth is not necessarily my truth or your truth. We are all just evolved monkeys that act on instinct…so he didn’t do anything “wrong.” Bad argument. http://www.thePoliPit.com
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:49pmI wonder if she has had her Burka fitting yet. She looks the part – not to be a profiler.
Report Post »Hannah15
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:20pmNom-
Report Post »Ok, since Hitler apparently used Christianity in decision making, that means all Christians are Nazis, right? What is your point? Anyone can use/ hide behind a belief to go through with their horrible plans. Someone could kill thousands of Christians in the name of atheism, but it doesn’t mean that all atheists are murderers or that atheism creates murderers.
AntBrain
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:33pmSo … Stalin was an atheist.
And here’s the thing. If Hitler was a Christian, he violated his beliefs. He was a hypocrite. If Stalin was an atheist, he wasn‘t a hypocrite and didn’t violate his beliefs. Yes, Christians can abuse the name of God for their own purposes and it’s wrong. But atheists can do anything they want and it will never be wrong. I can see why you are attracted to atheism, but I can also see why I prefer the kingdom of God. Don’t kid yourself. You can’t face the consequences of your own belief system, so you come here and try to knock down the ideas of others … totally violating your own code of conduct. Idiocy.
Report Post »rspake1971
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:44pmyou really don’t know anything about hitler if you think he was a christan. He felt he was the Massiah, that he was the annionted one who would create an empire that would rule for a 1000 years. He and the Thule Society (go look that up, and say that they were Christians when they were preforming rites to the ‘Elder Gods’ where they took a young upcoming SS officer and wined him, dined him and made him think they were giving him praises… and then cut his head off and put it on a pedastal so the dark gods could talk through his decapitated head). The Nazis were dedicated to the ‘Old Gods’ of the Pagan past of Northern Europe. It’s why there are all those Norse Runes on all their uniforms, why they named projects and programs after the elder gods and mythology. Hitler thought he was the incarnation of God on earth. that he couldn’t do anything wrong because HE WAS God.
Report Post »dpmeek71
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:46pmSure I can because Hitler was not a Christian. Maybe you should try reading Mein Kompf. It’s a horrible read but it will clear up any idea you have about Hitler being a Christian.
Just because you live in a society that claims to be Christian does not make you one anymore than liking birthdays makes you a birthday cake.
I‘m guessing by your statement you don’t know much about Christianity either. It might be a good idea to pick up a copy of “I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.” Yes, it’s the title to a real book.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:56pm@Nomnomnom: You are a typical leftist in that you cite half-truths and the “history” that the lefty teachers indoctrinated you with in public school without doing any further investigation. In this case, you’re totally wrong about Hitler. Hitler and his inner circle were Christians by birth, but eschewed Christianity in favor of occultism and a later self-serving brand of “religion” that suited their agenda. This belief system featured many pre-Christian Germanic pagan themes. Even Christmas carols were deemphasized in Nazi Germany, in favor of new state-friendly songs.
What amazes me is how liberals like you will call conservatives “ignorant” and “rednecks” when you’re so poorly educated. What I cited above is common knowledge. To argue that Hitler was a Christian in any sense of the belief system belies your lack of knowledge.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 5:58pmBy the way, the cute-but-stupid chick in the video shares the same faith as Josef Stalin: both were/are Athiests.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 6:16pmWith no moral standard, she‘ll be single and pregnant and before she’s 17. Unless she aborts.
Report Post »FantaGirl
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 6:32pm@NomNom
The first thing Hitler did in power was remove Christianity from the Schools, replacing it with Government Propaganda. He used the church to his advantage, but not as a believer. He knew the people would listen to Church Officials; so he used his influence as Leader of Third Reich in the Churches to spread Government Propaganda. Hitler was definitely not a Christian. If he believed he was, he was a Pseudo Christian, seeing as he did not study the Bible, and had the masses a daily dose of Government Propaganda.
Report Post »Enough is Enough__Oath_Keeper
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 6:45pmHitler was Insane, he had Syphilis that he got from a prostitute (a real Christian like activity) and he was a closet Homosexual which is in direct conflict with Christianity. He followed Darwin & his use of Christianity was strictly to get control of the people & then implement his plan for a pure race.
Much like your fearless Leader Obama is attempting to do today with all of his Muslim Brotherhood cabinet members. Such as Dr. Vali Nasr, and his attempted appointment of Charles Freeman. Or we could go into all the class isms that the Obama Administration is going into with their backing of the OWS movement. Do something productive with your time and go read “The Archipelago Gulag” by Aleksander Solzhenitsyn provided that you have a high enough reading comprehension level to read it. It will show you a glimpse of the future & exactly where Obumbo is trying to take us.
Report Post »912er
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:00pmSince the “Declaration of Independence” says our Rights come from God, and atheists don’t believe in God, therefore, they have no Right to complain… Problem solved…
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:16pm“@rush_is_right Ok seriously Rush is rarely right. Pic a topic an try and defend it with his superficial selective arguments. His is absurdity makes him at best a comic at times.
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your inability to answer my question speaks volumes….
if hitler was such a good christian, why did he put so many christians in concentration camps…hmmmmm????
he was a good darwiniac, like you.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:44pm“STOP WITH ALL THIS NAVEL GAZING”
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By Their Fruit Ye Shall Know Them.
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All this talk about is “Hitler a Christian or not” is answered with one Question.
Did Hitler Follow Christ in his Words and Deeds?……. NO
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VII
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 8:45pmmatthew 5:38-46 38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Report Post »Seawolf607
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:01pmProve that he was a Christian useing a peer reviewed journal… This should be entertaining…
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:04pm@ Gold Coin & Economic News – And Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, and Eric Rudolph were all Christians. So what’s your poin?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:04pmI don‘t think I’d chalk Hitler up to Christianity, but it has plenty of blood on its hands besides. Not to say all Christians are evil, but you can derive anything from a contradiction.
Props to her.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:24pm@nomnomnom
You and this little b*tch can burn in hell. Say hi to Hitler while your there.
BTW, your friend Hitler may have done things based on Christianity but he sure the hell didn‘t understand it’s true meaning like you. Effing atheists.
Report Post »ladykk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:48pmOpen the bible and see for yourself if Hitler was a Christian. You will know them by their fruits. Every good tree brings forth good fruit and every corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. Some will say on that day ‘Lord! Lord!‘ and Christ will say ’I do not know you. Depart from me you who commit iniquity/lawlessness.’
Christ told us to Love God with all our hearts and souls and to love our neighbour as ourselves. We are to love even our enemies. The 6th commandment says ‘Thou shall not kill’.
Hitler was not a friend of the true God. Just because one calls himself a Christian does not make it true. A true Christian is defined by ones actions.
Report Post »BlindSquirrel57
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:49pmYou’re makeing the same mistake a lot of people make, you believe that if a person is NOT jewish, hindu, mooslum, ect..ect..that they are Christian, this is NOT the case.
Hitler did what he did for more personel reasons, also, he needed a distraction from his “fundamentaly changing Germany” so the Jews were it, he figured kill 2 birds with one stone, get rid of the people he blamed for his worthless life and take attention away from his ever growing dictatorship.
It’s kinda like what is going on now, if you replace hitler with obama and jews with Christians.
Report Post »No, I don‘t think we’ll see the gas chambers but only because technology has advanced since the 40′s.
momsense
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:16amyeah –murdered all those Christians who opposed him.
Report Post »SacKings2312
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 2:44amlol… Hitler was definitely a Catholic… c’mon man, quit twisting real history with the way you want it to be…
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:23amHitler was not a practicing Christian. He also came from jewish extraction which he hid.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:36amhttp://townhall.com/columnists/dineshdsouza/2007/11/05/was_hitler_a_christian/page/full/
Hitler’s Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer’s private opinions, assembled by a close aide during the war years, shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great “scourges” of history, and said of the Germans, “Let’s be the only people who are immunized against this disease.” He promised that “through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity.” In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. He also condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.
Hitler reserved special scorn for the Christian values of equality and compassion, which he identified with weakness. Hitler’s leading advisers like Goebbels, Himmler, Heydrich and Bormann were atheists who hated religion and sought to eradicate its influence in Germany.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:37amhttp://townhall.com/columnists/dineshdsouza/2007/11/05/was_hitler_a_christian/page/full/
Hitler’s Table Talk, a revealing collection of the Fuhrer’s private opinions, assembled by a close aide during the war years, shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great “scourges” of history, and said of the Germans, “Let’s be the only people who are immunized against this disease.” He promised that “through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity.” In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. He also condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.
Hitler reserved special scorn for the Christian values of equality and compassion, which he identified with weakness. Hitler’s leading advisers like Goebbels, Himmler, Heydrich and Bormann were atheists who hated religion and sought to eradicate its influence in Germany. .
Report Post »Randall Lynn Horn
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 8:58amHitler believed and practiced the occult.He did use and pervert religion for his own gain.The ignorance of the youth today is a result of liberal indoctrination.Destroy faith,family,and love of country,the liberal progressive way.Teach them to love government control and to not believe in WE THE PEOPLE.Once you destroy faith,family and patriotism then government rule is king.Congrats progressives on destroying America.
Report Post »HarrisonJ29
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 10:11amdidn’t Hitler kill like millions of catholics and Jews? Doesn’t sound like he was taking “love thy neighbor seriously.”
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:01pmThere is nothing new about a Tyrant wanting to co-opt a religion for political power. Although these atheists (aclu/progressives/alinsky radicals) may be the first in history to try to reduce it on one hand while trying to co-opt it on the other. Pretty lame.. indeed.. BTW – Hitler was a progressive and the progressives were Nazis! Funny you should chose them as your examples..
Report Post »JClover
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 3:38pmWatch the video “180” and you’ll see that facts
Report Post »COLEEN10
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 5:17pmIt is immature to believe that you will go through life not being offended. I am of the opinion that this little girl was told be parents to do this and i would even go so far as to say that she is guilty of religious persecution. Christians should push back and say that america was founded on freedom of religion and those of you who choose not to believe can go your own way. They do not, however, have the right to demand that we not declare our beliefs and practice them wherever we may be. Those in freedom from religion organizations are guilty of religious persecution and should not be allowed to force us to do their will.
Report Post »baker john
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 7:34pmAnd for the record Hitler was a close friend to many islamics, and muslim leaders even had muslim leader as his close advisor on how to deal with and wipe out Jews very christian of Hitler if he was a christian he sure knew how to disguise it to have so many muslim friends.
Report Post »VII
Posted on January 19, 2012 at 9:45pmMany may call themselves a Christian, claim what they do is in the name of Christ or our Father.
Not all done in His name glorifies or honors Him. If the person or group is doing things or that contradict the teachings of Christ, they would be a follower of Christ in name only.
If hitler considered himself a follower of Christ he did not live as Christ directs us to so he would be one that comes to our
Matthew 7:21-23 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Report Post »(practice lawlessness = practice Sin)
Sharktopus7
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:30pm“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.”
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936
“The Catholic Church should not deceive herself: if National Socialism does not succeed in defeating Bolshevism, then Church and Christianity in Europe too are finished. Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of the Church as much as of Fascism. …Man cannot exist without belief in God. The soldier who for three and four days lies under intense bombardment needs a religious prop.”
Report Post »- Adolf Hitler in conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber of Bavaria, November 4, 1936
jmmulkey
Posted on February 17, 2012 at 7:04pmThe people at Westboro Baptist Church claim to be Christians too, but their actions (just like Hitler’s) certainly don’t prove that to be true. Regardless of whether or not Hitler called himself a Christian, his actions in the extermination of millions of Jews and others are NOT based on true Christianity. So, you lose there.
As for this whole case with this little atheist girl and all of the other cases where atheists are just so traumatized by a “prayer scroll” or the Ten Commandments or a Nativity scene being on public property, some day a real judge who isn‘t afraid to buck the system and actually knows what the Constitution says and doesn’t just go by the popular and completely misguided notion of “separation of church and state” (which the Constitution says absolutely nothing about) will take all of these childish cases and throw them right out of the courtroom. The ONLY thing the Constitution says is that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” This Amendment was added so our religious freedoms would be secure and so the Federal Government would never be able to do what the King of England did…proclaim that Catholicism or any other specific religion would be the law of the land. This amendment also gives ALL of us the right to worship how, when and where we choose! Or we can choose NOT to worship. It was never intended to keep any of us from expressing our beliefs on govt. owned
Report Post »jbcarp9085
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:27pmLet‘s look at Hitler’s own words:
“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. ”
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
“Gott Mit Uns” (God is with us) – SS motto (on belt buckles, for example)
Also, look at the 7 remedial actions against Jews in Martin Luther’s “Von den Jüden und jren Lügen” (On the Jews and their Lies). These are the actions taken by Hitler…
Finally, even if Hitler was not REALLY a Christian, you must argue that all those he commanded with this language were not either.
Torture and murder are horrible things, but we can forgive it because the grave has such pretty flowers…
Report Post »freeweever
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:14amShe is the future losers of America clubs next chairman. Just a contrarian afraid to confront the Muslim religion.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:16amYeah everyone I disagree with is a contrarian. Nevermind the fact that I believe in fairy ghost slavemasters and imaginary lands like heaven and hell that nobody has ever seen or been to.
Report Post »skiz
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:35am@FEDEL(whatever)~ Maybe nobody has seen heaven or hell because to see them you have to be DEAD!!!!! YOU IDIOT!!!!! Athiest are a joke. You have to be totally blind not to see there is a GOD. Have you ever looked real close to a flower or the sky? Or how the body works? If you deny God exsists you are a moron and have no brain.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:41am“in fairy ghost slavemasters and imaginary lands like heaven and hell that nobody has ever seen or been to.”
uh yeah Somebody has…HIs name is JESUS…don’t you just hate and fear that name???
you’ll deny it of course, but its painfully obvious….
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:47am@SKIZ
So your argument for a god existing is that flowers and clouds exist? People don’t often refer to you as intelligent do they?
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:14am@URNOTSERIOUS
You might want to understand a statement before dismissing it. We’ll all have to assume you knew his point, but tried to dismiss it out of hand because you have no logical way of explaining your way out of it.
The sheer complexity of a human being points to a creator. There is no link from man to apes and then on down the line to single celled organisms.
We are ALL so smart that we actually assume that there is no God because we would have ‘found’ Him by now, yet we aren‘t clever enough to develop a pill that won’t back-up your abdominal system. Seriously, has anyone heard a medical commercial yet that didn’t include diarrhea or constipation? But we’re the masters of the universe after all. Its not possible that we couldn’t comprehend a being that could create all of this and actually put our bodies in balance.
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:25am“The sheer complexity of a human being points to a creator.”
Yet the creator is simple enough to have existed forever, right? Just because you don’t understand something, doesn’t mean you have to jump to the simplest of conclusions, which in our complex bodies case would be, a god created it.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:54amA cake appeared on a table one day, URNOTSERIOUS pondered and pondered how such complex elements such as eggs, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla came together. He thought of theories of how it must have evolved from the table, perhaps a big bang smashed all of the elements together from the cupboards. The answer that a conscious being made it…waaaaaay to simple.
Besides, who ever said making a human being was somehow easy. The whole point is that it’s not. The complexity points to a Creator.
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:03pm@RIGEL
“Besides, who ever said making a human being was somehow easy. The whole point is that it’s not. The complexity points to a Creator.”
-Again, you miss the point. Just because you don‘t understand it doesn’t mean a god did it. If you then didn’t know how the cake came to be, and couldn’t understand how it simply appeared on the table, and I told you I made it, would I then be your god?
By the way, all the while you point to your god creating life as we know it, you are also stating that every other god or theory is false.
We both don’t know why the world is so complex or how things came to be. The only difference is I don’t make up creators in order to make myself feel better about not knowing.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:19pm“We both don’t know why the world is so complex or how things came to be. The only difference is I don’t make up creators in order to make myself feel better about not knowing.”
Assuming too much again. Your first was WE. Don’t include US in your lack of belief.
All you have are hypothesis that scientists and speculators have for centuries tried to place into theories only to have them debunked. God is real. Sorry if you cant see that. One way or the other, you will. One of your favorite atheists… whats his name, was remembered in a book looking to the ceiling and shaking his fists to the sky in anger and then died…. Hmmm… I wonder what he saw?
Any way instead of offending you by debunking all of your learned beliefs, I’ll stick with my Creator thanks. I guess I can only hope that any ethics you learn steer you enough in the right direction to make you decent citizen instead of another DNC zombie. Although, sometime they actually get it right:
“‘We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.’” “That’s not an easy idea. And it had to be fought for, inch by inch, year by year.”
- President Barack Obama
I know, Obama, right? Who knew?
Report Post »JRook
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:30pm@RIGEL_ORION Reasonable point but perhaps you might want to actually reflect on that complexity and realize that there is probably a higher energy or power in the universe. One that we have no ability to even comprehend or understand. The notion that one particular group had or has some insight into what it is or an understanding thereof is comical. You never found it interesting that all of the characteristics attributed to Jesus were reflected and predated in various Egyptian gods. You never found it interesting that December 25 th. was chosen as his birthday because it was a day of Egyptian celebration. You really believe that “God” would only reveal himself to a limited group of individuals and that the Mayans, Hindus, Buddhists, and early American Indians were all clueless. You don’t find it disconcerting that the Council of Nicea decided and potentially edited what is found in the modern bible? I have not doubt there is some higher energy or power in the universe. I have equally no doubt that humans have no clue what it is and could not even comprehend it.
Report Post »ressex
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:53pmIn my opinion atheists have no imagination… They cannot imagine anything they cannot see or feel… How sad. We’ll pray for all you atheists…
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:02pm@ressex
Report Post »[In my opinion atheists have no imagination]
So you admit god is imaginary? OoOoOohahahahahaa. That was easy.
rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:23pm“I have equally no doubt that humans have no clue what it is and could not even comprehend it.”
oh wow I didn’t know YOU spoke for this higher power…how else would you know this?
you must be the new-age moron…er I mean messiah…
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:13amI love this board.
Everyone on here does the following:
- Props up the Bible and say it’s the greatest thing in the world.
- Props up the US Constitution and say it’s the greatest thing in the world.
But when the Constitution clearly allows this ruling to happen, it affects your Bible and you cry and putt around complaining all day. It seems you can’t have both in this story.
Your imaginary sky wizard has let this happen. Maybe there is no sky wizard?
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:17amThe constitution doesn’t allow this, ignorant people to feeble minded to read the constitution and understand it have. It’s pretty sad, it was written at what today would be a 4th grade level, so the common man of the time could understand it, damn we have gone backwards, thanks liberal loons. When your kids are enslaved and wonder what freedom is, i hope you choke on your tears.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:22am“Your imaginary sky wizard has let this happen. Maybe there is no sky wizard?”
He lets a lot of things happen…including letting morons like you get your way….just don’t whine when you have to pay the price for your beliefs…and remember the rest of us you scorn and hate so….
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:24amTreaty of Tripoli mean anything? Constitution also does not endorse any one religion. How would feel if another religion were on that banner? Say, something from the Qur’an? How would feel about that? Judging from the crowd in this room, you’d all be up in arms. Do your homework before you come to class.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:25amIf you can find the words ‘separation of church and state’ in the Constitution you would have a valid point. Fact is, those words were used in a letter of 1802 that had nothing to do with law or the Constitution. Those words, taken from a letter, have no legal basis. They were misused by an abusive, over-reaching court, operating out of its boundaries to create a law that you now use as your argument. False based on false is not true.
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:29amSounds like some people aren’t too happy with judicial law. If you’re not happy with it might I suggest:
- Run for political office
- Introduce an amendment to the Constitution to endorse any imaginary sky wizard you love
- Have all 50 states ratify it
- Be happy that you got your way
If you need help printing these instructions out, I suggest Googling the answer. If you need further info, might I suggest taking a tenth grade US History class as it might be better suited for your intelligence level.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:30am“The constitution doesn’t allow this”
Bzzzzzt. Try again.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:32amIn actuality all things have a season and all things happen for a reason. Even the fools thinking themselves wise and mocking others.
I do find it truly amazing that those who profess themselves such free thinkers are so completely close minded. Not that they have a belief mind you, but that they have actually deluded themselves to believe that having faith in no-God is somehow a logically superior position than having faith in God.
Here’s the forum to convince everyone though. Lay on the definitive proof of no God.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:35amTHE JERK . . .Wow, so you’ve stumbled onto that old saw, have you? Wow. Such keen insight. You’re like Rumpelstiltskin waking up after a long nap only to discover something everyone else has set aside as irrelevant 20 years before. Tell you what, just to keep you busy until you get your clothes re-fitteed. I’ll give you $100 if you can prove that the establishment clause does not exist in the Constitution.
Off you go now. You must be hungry. There;s a bright light pub down the road called McDonalds. Go in there. I think you’ll find their fare quite sustaining.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:36am“Sounds like some people aren’t too happy with judicial law. If you’re not happy with it might I suggest:”
yeah we’re not happy with judges making law….but you fascists LOVE that…then you don‘t have to mess with that whole ’consent of the governed’ thing….its so messy…
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:54am@Jerk.
Seperation of Church and State has become short hand for the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. The Constitution creates a wall of seperation between the Church and the Governement. Beckerheads in their mad march towards a theocracy are blinded by snake oil sales men like Barton and Beck who twist history and facts to keep their sheep in line.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:56am@NOMNOM
Seriously dude. You are absolutely killing yourself here. Smug superiority cannot be accomplished while assuming that 50 states have to ratify an amendment. It’s three-fourths.
An imaginary sky wizard? Really? I recognize that your whole position is based on degrading the symbols of others, but you can do better than that. If anything the usage of the term wizard simply tells the audience that it came from someone with a misspent youth playing Dungeons & Dragons and an unhealthy amount of time with the latest lingerie catalog at the house.
By your error in 50 states, you clearly do not know everything. Just as man might have scoffed at a round earth, flight, travel to the moon at one point in time. My point being that simply because you cannot comprehend the reality of something doesn‘t mean that it doesn’t exist. Only that it exists outside of your current level of comprehension.
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:57am@ RIGEL
“Here’s the forum to convince everyone though. Lay on the definitive proof of no God.”
So now we have to prove gods don’t exist? Do you not see how this is an insane thing to say, to provide proof of no god? How about you try this, prove to me without a doubt that in another dimension outside of ours there is an invisible, ethereal, all-knowing, all-seeing 6 foot tall portrait of two clowns dancing that made us and judges us, that cannot be caught on camera or detected in any way, and cannot be sensed at all by anyone except for ME. I am the only one who knows the 6 foot tall portrait of two clowns dancing exists, and I have come to earth to spread the good word of dancing in clown costumes….. Prove to me this doesn’t exist… you will never be able to.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:11amThat’s the funny thing, there was no religion on the banner. It simply referenced God. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all reference “God”.
The banner was non-denominational. Progressive Socialist fools ASSUMED it was Christian. The establishment clause (the first amendment) doesn’t prevent prayer in government, nor does it prohibit religious symbolism. It states the government can‘t tell you what you can and can’t worship. Government can’t force you to participate.
Posting the prayer does not establish a State Religion. If you won’t understand that, then I can’t help you.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:11am“I am the only one who knows the 6 foot tall portrait of two clowns dancing exists”
Well, now we all know it exists too.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:19am@Jaycen
“The banner was non-denominational… The establishment clause (the first amendment) doesn’t prevent prayer in government, nor does it prohibit religious symbolism. It states the government can‘t tell you what you can and can’t worship. Government can’t force you to participate.
Posting the prayer does not establish a State Religion. If you won’t understand that, then I can’t help you.”
You might want to reread the 1962 case:
“The Court rejected the defendant’s arguments that people are not asked to respect any specific established religion; and that the prayer is voluntary. The Court held that the mere promotion of a religion is sufficient to establish a violation, even if that promotion is not coercive. The Court further held that the fact that the prayer is vaguely worded enough not to promote any particular religion is not a sufficient defense, as it still promotes a family of religions (those that recognize “Almighty God”), which still violates the Establishment Clause.”
A vaguely worded prayer still violates the Establishment clause. It not being mandatory is also immaterial. The -only- potential point was that the prayer was not written by the school, but by a student. However, by promoting it as the “school prayer,” it still likely goes against the Establishment Clause.
I feel that ideally other displays should have been allowed rather than removing this one. But the court ruling was sound.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:23amJAYCEN and others – right! I looked up this Judge — he is indeed a liberal activist who has committed Judicial misconduct and ethics, Civil Rights violations:
http://caught.net/caught/lagu.htm
Re church and state – never meant to keep religious “things” out of public places, etc. – only meant that the Govnt. could not legislate a religion for the nation…
Report Post »“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion …,” (Thomas Jefferson)
There’s no excuse for most to not understand the truth about how this “separation” deal has been totally misused by the Progressives/liberals, nonbelievers to promote their agendas – with the info out there on the internet. Only those who are rebellious to God/do not want the truth believe what this girl/judge did was “right”. I pray for all of them.
RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:38amThere you have it folks. Pull away the self-deluded hubris and mockery and you have the essence of folks like URNOTSERIOUS.
They try to convince others that their arguments are based in logic, but in reality they are based in FAITH. Everyone is supposed to have faith in URNOTSERIOUS intelligence being so supreme that it perceives everything in the universe. Once you have faith in him, you can assuredly believe there is no God.
Personally, I’m curious about the full relationship between time and space, the genetic mutation that causes aging and the true nature of Higgs/Bison. Please enlighten us.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:40am“I feel that ideally other displays should have been allowed rather than removing this one. But the court ruling was sound.”
just curious how do you feel about those other court rulings like plessy v. ferguson and dred scott?
why were those wrong, and this ruling right?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:56am@Rush
“just curious how do you feel about those other court rulings like plessy v. ferguson and dred scott?
why were those wrong, and this ruling right?”
Good thing I didn’t frame it in terms of right and wrong, but “soundness” of legality. But personally? I feel those were wrong. That doesn’t mean they were unconstitutional nor that they stood indefinitely; the 14th amendment overturned the decision of Dred Scott, and Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy on the basis that separate cannot be equal.
Something can be “wrong” and still be constitutionally sound. Hence why I said that this decision wasn’t the ideal outcome, but was legally sound.
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:57am@RIGEL
“They try to convince others that their arguments are based in logic, but in reality they are based in FAITH. Everyone is supposed to have faith in URNOTSERIOUS intelligence being so supreme that it perceives everything in the universe. Once you have faith in him, you can assuredly believe there is no God.”
-Either you did not want to address it, or you did not understand the point of my post. The point was to show you that just because I can’t disprove your god, does not mean your god must then exist. And just because we cannot explain everything about the universe or our existence, does NOT prove a god then exists. I will try to show you again. In previous years, people did not know how lightning was formed or why it was there, so they created gods in order to give reason to it. You and I both agree that lightning is not formed by gods, because people eventually found out why it occurs. People have become wiser since then, and so we do not need to fully understand how the body works or why a flower looks the way it does in order to disprove that a god created them.
“Personally, I’m curious about the full relationship between time and space, the genetic mutation that causes aging and the true nature of Higgs/Bison. Please enlighten us.”
-Since you don’t fully understand how or why it happens, a god must have created it. This is false logic.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:04pm“Something can be “wrong” and still be constitutionally sound. Hence why I said that this decision wasn’t the ideal outcome, but was legally sound.”
you realize constitutionally that the courts were never empowered to interpret the constittuion. Jefferson considered it a tyranny….
BUT THE OPINION which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional, and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislature and executive also, in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch. — Letter to Mrs. John Adams, Nov. 1804
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:27pm@Rush
“you realize constitutionally that the courts were never empowered to interpret the constittuion.”
But judicial review has been the final arbiter for our legal system for over 200 years, and I hope you wouldn’t overthrow that now. This argument always goes the same way.
Person 1: I don’t like this decision. It’s Unconstitutional!
Report Post »Person 2: Hey, the Supreme Court decided, and it’s up to them
Person 1: Where is that power in the Constitution? It’s not there!
Person 2: Lesser of evils. It‘s how the country’s operated for the last two centuries
Person 1: Aha! You admit it’s not there.
Person 2: Never denied it. But it’s a necessary condition for the judiciary to have any binding power whatsoever. Otherwise the president could just say “I disagree, you’re wrong.” Or Congress could. And neither of those branches has that power outlined in the Constitution either. So our founding fathers, less than two decades into the birth of our nation, just went with Marbury v. Madison’s decision and said “Yeah, that’s probably a good idea.” And thus we have our current legal system.
Person 1: But it’s not in the Constitution!!!
Person 2: Sigh.
The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:51pmyour sensei, the establishment clause does exist, now you should read the part where it says that ‘Congress’ shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion… .
Congress has made no law. People like you set up the straw man, then use that straw man to put forth an argument for something not granted. The federal government made no law. The federal courts have no jurisdiction. It’s a state matter. Perhaps you should read the 10th amendment, while we still have it.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:01pmBecky needs to teach the Beckerheads civics. Jerk, the 14th Amendment incorporates the Bill of Rights to the States, this includes the Establishment clause preventing any State sponsorship of Religion.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:16pm@The_Jerk
” The federal government made no law. The federal courts have no jurisdiction. It’s a state matter. Perhaps you should read the 10th amendment, while we still have it.”
I know the Bill of Rights is the most popular, but there are other amendments too Notably in this case, the 14th amendment extends the US Constitutional protections to the states and their agencies as well.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:53pmurnotserious,
Okay we get it, you do not believe there is a God. Have you ever wondered why you are so worried about the fact that others do believe in God? It is telling that you are so vociferous in your opinion. Most people are just fine with others viewpoints on religion, there are no forced conversions here. Yet you atheist types seem to want to force your beliefs, or lack thereof, on society as a whole.
I do not believe that there is a purple lizard under my chair right now, but there could be. That’s it, you decide.
PS: God still believes in you : – )
Report Post »sparky71
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:14pmNom. You and all the other America Haters are more than welcome to try on a different country. Try Libya or your beloved China. They are good Muslims or Commies. Maybe you think Putin is an angel too. He supports your views. Somalia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea maybe. For one who studies history, you sure are ignorant.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:36pmWow atheists get a toe in since 1962 and they cant stop gloating yet huh.
70% of American believes STRONGLY in the Creator
The Declaration states the freedoms are granted from the Creator
The Bible is what taught us who is the Creator
And you hop on here and try to gloat like an attention whore…
Nice very nice… At Christmas time, you always think of Him. and you spend the rest of the year denying it. I find that refreshingly hilarious.
I pray for God to open your eyes before its too late. I just had an adamant athiest have a near death experience… GUESS WHAT HE SAID FROM HIS HOSPITAL BED?
“Those Christians, they’ve got it right… I didn’t want to come back!”
Two weeks later, he was back to his old crabby ol‘ ’mad at the world’ anti-Christian self. (If you ever wonder why, read the Bible, its not as you naively think)
So spare the mockery, when you are in you elder years alone and helpless and the help hates your guts… you WILL submit to the One or, to the other… I’ll wager you will be too weak to deny Him then. But luckily, He will accept you then too. Take your sky wizard crap and go troll elsewhere.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:18pm“Person 1: But it’s not in the Constitution!!!
Person 2: Sigh.”
yeah why even bother with a constitution when it means whatever 9 black-robed thugs say it means…
its much easier that way isn’t it? don‘t have to worry about that messy ’will of the people‘ ’consent of the governed’ stuff….
and they’ve done SUCH a good job over the years…endorsing slavery, segregation, killing unborn babies….
they have SUCH wisdom, oh yeah more than us ordinary mortals…
sigh.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 8:40pmYour imaginary sky wizard has let this happen. Maybe there is no sky wizard?
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Well.. Aren’t you the Snotty One.
Whats’s it to you what I Believe?
Am I Dragging you off to a Church and forcing you Believe What I Believe?
Do you get some delight in Sticking your thumb in other peoples eyes?
It seems to me non-believers are the ones that are on some Jihad to make Your thought the Dominate one. You see.. In order for your vision to happen the World must make way for you and accommodate You. We must move FOR YOU… Tell you what instead of expecting the tide to move to your wishes why don’t you Adopt a LIVE AND LET LIVE attitude and understand it not a perfect world. I think you’ll be a happier person
Tell you what …Talk to A Jewish or Muslim Immigrant and ask them whats it like living here in a Christian Country. I think they will give it two thumbs up
GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 8:44pmYou forgot we too love guns, hoarding food, buying gold and watching GBTV. (sarc)
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:47pm@ uspatriot101 – you said she hasn’t lived long enough to spew her garbage to others, yet no Christian would argue that a 16 year old’s decision to follow Jesus was based on ignorance. If she’s old enough to come to the conclusion that Jesus is the truth the light and the way, then she’s old enough to reason that religion and god are BS.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:13amI‘m surprised she’s not wearing her brown shirt and jack-boots…..
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:30amNo that was Hitler. A fellow Christian. http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:39am“No that was Hitler. A fellow Christian”
he was as fellow darwiniac and atheist like you….
Report Post »TheJeffersonian
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:15pmDarwin merely described what he saw, and happened to produce a description that was entirely accurate. Proposing that Hitler’s policy arose from being a “Darwiniac” is like saying Truman dropped the bomb because he was a Einsteiniac. Hitler was a madman who appropriated Darwin’s description of natural selection to support his own irrational ideas of Aryan supremacy.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 4:44pm“Hitler was a madman who appropriated Darwin’s description of natural selection to support his own irrational ideas of Aryan supremacy.”
yeah Hitler said terrible stuff like this….
“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.
yeah Hitler always talked about the ‘lower races’
oh wait that was DARWIN….
” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).
get a clue, racism is inherent in the theory of evolution…..isolated groups evolve differently….
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 6:38pmNomnomnom: What Hitler DID believe in was telling a lie so often that it eventually became perceived as the truth. Such is your repeated insistence that Hitler was a Christian. He was not. His belief system (such as it was) could be characterized as paganism.
Perhaps someday, if you get an actual education, your level of intellect might even rise to the level where you are able to see past YOUR messiah: the big phony named Obama.
Report Post »Kerri g
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:13amAnd just what gives you the right to impeed the religious beleif and practice of Christians? If you don‘t beleive thats fine but don’t push your distain off on others. This is America, read the first amendment of the Constitution.
Report Post »Marine25
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:38amThe school doesn’t belong to Christians. They can worship all they want, but the school, public property, cannot do anything regarding the establishment of religion.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:00amThe state running a religion, yes. Religion being present in state institutions, no.
You have it backwards Marine25
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:00amKERRI,
I can only assume you would not feel the same way if you took out the word christian and inserted in its place, muslim.
Report Post »Vapor Trail
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:04pmSorry Rigel, Marine25 is right.
Report Post »The establishment clause is what separates the church from the state.
Historically the supreme court has upheld, religion has no place in public funded schools. Not allowing this prayer thingy is not violating anyone’s right to believe in whatever religion they want.
But having it in a public schools is an endorsement of religion, and therefore a violation of the first amendment.
rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:20pm“Historically the supreme court has upheld, religion has no place in public funded schools. Not allowing this prayer thingy is not violating anyone’s right to believe in whatever religion they want.
But having it in a public schools is an endorsement of religion, and therefore a violation of the first amendment.”
yeah since 1962…how did we EVER survive before out enlightened betters in the supreme court gave us this new wisdom from on high??
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:09amSo her idea of atheist (which is a religion) activism is to have different religions removed from her school?
Love to hear from an atheist who actually supports this view.
I could understand her requesting space to put up her own plaque stating atheistic beliefs – but to punish other religions is wrong.
Report Post »urnotserious
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:04amIf you think atheism is a religion, you’re an ldiot.
Just because one guy said a god made the world, and another guy didn’t believe him, doesn’t mean those two have separate religions…
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:43pmUR, with that post you have just made anything else you post void of consideration. I am curious as to what you believe is the definition of a religion. You obviously are under the presumption that it requires the worship of a supernatural being or entity. Christianity or any number of faith-based religious groups are theist ideologies, while atheism is obviously an atheist, logic-based religious ideology. It doesn’t take a big guy in the sky to create a religion. A religion is a set of beliefs, or an ideology.
Atheists are an organized non-God relgious group. While you believe that because you don’t go to church or worship a higher power atheists are not considered a religion but you would be wrong. Too long atheists have been under the impression that because they “don’t believe in fairy tales” they are not a religious ideology and again, you would be wrong. The belief in no God is the same as the belief in God when it comes to the creation of a religious group. Atheists have groups, meetings, and obviously organizations that are created to establish an atheistic environment. Religion does not require God be involved to be a religion.
The removal of God completely from government will simply make it easier for the government to determine what are our inalienable rights. You may think you are doing everyone a favor, but instead you are creating the perfect environment for tyranny to grow. When God doesn’t give us our rights then the government does.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:52pm@urnotserious –
Shirly you do know that atheism was ruled as a religion by the courts right? http://www.wnd.com/2005/08/31895/
PS – It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. (Abraham Lincoln). I don’t mind debating but name calling is juvenile – especially if you’re not sure of yourself!!!
@selloursouls
Well said!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:07amSure, she’s in the dark about Christ–very immature and there is still hope. In fact, those who are dead-set against God and the Bible; very often down the line, embrace the Gospel with much enthusiasm. Don’t know about this kid, but with God, all things are possible.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:14amDo you have any evidence to support your claim that atheists embrace superstition “very often down the line”?
I would guess that the amount of people that were introduced to church at a young age and moved away from it as they became conscious of the reality of our world FAR FAR exceeds the amount of people who revert back to the lies and irrationality that is organized religion.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:24am“Do you have any evidence to support your claim that atheists embrace superstition “very often down the line”? ”
yeah you atheists embrace that racist atheist superstition known as evolution.
Report Post »suzanne1229
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:05amI am soooooo tired of this minority group trying to take things away from the majority. they try to change Christmas, telling people what they can do or say, i am SICK of it! If they don’t like it, you don’t have to listen or look at it! I am tired of atheists trying to change everything! STOP IT!!
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:03amTestify, Sister! But you can expect push back from some Christians, just as soon as soon as they get done trading bodily superglue on the roof of the church.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:12amSardine: SCOTUS said secular humanism is a religion, so express it and I will express my Christianity .
Report Post »Where we differ is I can live with your false religion and you can’t handle the truth, so you try to force me to not express it.
The constitution does not say “you can’t express it everywhere”, in fact it says my and your free expression shall not be infringed upon.
Likely you and I shall never meet face to face, but if we do, I suggest very strongly that when I talk about my faith and you don’t like it, just walk away or express yours in a non confrontaional discussion. Anything else might get you sued.
GOD bless you sardine.
AvengerK
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:10pmWhat about the constant “pushback” from angry little atheists like you YOU’RE SENSELESS? Your fragile atheist sensibilities seem to be on constant edge watching, searching, vigilant for any semblance of religious referrence within eyeshot. Sad little git.
Report Post »TNT_Party
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:02amWhen I was in school punks who started trouble were promptly beaten up and if they persisted were beaten up again.
The latest generation has gotten soft.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:13amAnother punk, future liberal who has learned it is far easier to destroy and tear things down, than to actually create or elevate something.
The actual creators in society are greatly taken for granted. The destroyers will ride the coat tails like Ben Hur, taking everything they can, while attacking the ones who move the world forward.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:29amTNT PARTY . . .I’m so sorry for you. I hope you can get over it.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:02amOne more step to De-Christianize America, a movement of the 20th century… be it the changing of BC and AD to B.C.E. and A.C.E. led by Jewish academia, or the removal of prayer and religious objects by the Jewish led ACLU, whose ‘leadership is almost reminiscent of a temple board meeting’, per Rabbi Daniel Lapin.
The history is real, not antisemitic.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:13am“The history is real, not antisemitic.”
You, however, are antisemitic, and have proven yourself to be so many times. I might agree with your stance on Israel, but while I come at it from a logical point of view (the US’s association with them leads to blowback), you seem to come at it from a paranoid fear of a relatively small religious group (under 14 million worldwide).
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:17amYou find antisemitism in facts, and in the words of Rabbis, and in the words of fellow Jews. You can call a horse antisemitic, but that doesn’t mean that it is true. And, that’s a fact. Neigh!
Report Post »tzion
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:34amI can call smackthejerkdown antisemitic and it would be true. A Jew who supports this action is just as much of a threat to Judaism as he is to Christianity. As for the whole BC thing, since Congress has the power to establish weights and measures, establishing BC and AD as the official year measurements points could be considered a violation of the establishment clause. After all “Congress shall pass no law…”. Congress recognizing Jesus as Christ and “our Lord” could easily be argues as a violation.
Report Post »Maybe you should stop blaming Jews for the actions of atheists.
Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 12:05pm“You can call a horse antisemitic, but that doesn’t mean that it is true. And, that’s a fact. Neigh!”
Difference being that a horse won’t hate an entire religion and culture. Which is what you do. You know, antisemitism.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 2:06pmI’ll make one concession. Congress can establish BCE and CE as official year measurements but it can’t stop someone from using BC or AD in a private work.
Report Post »MrOVW
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:58amStanding Ovation for Jessica Ahlquist. All of my love and support!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1c7itPy3Y&feature=related
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:14amfascists of a feather, flock together.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:56amYes, you do want to shove atheism down other peoples throats……….you evil little thing.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:58amI feel sorry for your children.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:02amShe’ll abort her children Fidel.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:08amGONZO . . .You should ask Ted about abortions. I think you’d be surprised at how many he has been part of.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:10amI was talking to “MomRules” I feel sorry for MomRules’ children because she is obviously hateful and vindictive.
And an imbecile.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:12amMomrules, rules. You’re the dbag.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:14am@gonzo
Report Post »But she’ll save the whales, climate change, spotted owls, the OWS, and tofurkey!
NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:18amMOM- Isn’t she just like,you know, like awesome! What an achievement,taking down that big ol’ scary banner! I bet all the other atheist morons are so proud! Why do these idiots spend so much time and energy trying to remove God from our lives instead of exploring the possibility that He does exist? If they were right we would just look silly at the end,but if we are right,they are missing out on eternal life! Remember that Dylan song,You gotta serve somebody? I would feel sorry for atheists if they weren’t so in your face about it
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:21amWhat wackjobs, think it’s hateful, and vindictive, to not want useful uneducated idiots to take our freedoms, and piss on them. Wow, you liberals are amazing how you project, do you actually not see your hatred of freedom for what it is?
Report Post »dsm
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:54amyeah she will be a great asset to the liberal party.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:53am.
Report Post »Sweetie, one day you will die. And I’d like to see the look on your face. When you find out he LIVES…………….
MrOVW
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:54amyou’re the one in for the surprise. when it all goes dark and stays dark. you delusion fool. This girl is a hero.
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:55amI hate you, Monkey.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:57amYou want to see the face of people as they are tortured for eternity? What does that say about you, you vindictive fool? Why does your happiness derive from the pain of people with whom you disagree? Have you ever thought about that?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:04amCorrect Spank……….He lives and He will judge this girl for what she is doing and He will judge the ones who led her astray.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:04amYou are assuming that one responsible for helping to coerce young people into the non-existence of God would be in any way worthy of his pity. Some souls earn the torment of hell by their actions.
Reveling in the misery of others isn’t a noble trait, but then reveling in the forcible removal of God from more young lives is nothing to revel in either.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:06amI‘d like to see monkey’s face when he/she stands before some other god. D-8} “Okay, . . . . wasn’t expecting that!”
Better hope it isn‘t Allah because you’ll be in just as much trouble. Pascal’s wager goes both ways.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:09am@MROVW
I‘m guessing you didn’t think your thought through before posting. Maybe you should explain how if a dead person was simply dead (with no enduring soul), how they could actually have a thought of being surprised.
That being the case, the only real possibility for any surprise would come from the existence of a soul, God, etc. In that case I’d want to be absolutely sure there was no God before corrupting others. So, let’s see the proof of no God. Or are you wanting us to take it on faith?
Report Post »nomnomnom
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:11amI’d rather spend an eternity in hell then be in heaven with a group of bigots like you
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:15am@Deavon
Which way would that be? She’d receive a higher level of torment for her role in corruption whether it was Allah or Jehovah. In fact many Muslims would use her as the poster child for why the twisted souls of women should be subdued and treated deferentially. Perhaps you should learn a little about different religions beyond the peripherals before your post.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:16amMONKEYSPANKER . . .The last thing you’re ever gonna see is the nurse pulling the sheet over your face. To be clear, I’m not saying there is no Heaven. I‘m saying you’ll never get there. So sorry. I wish it could be different, I really do.
You see, I’m a Christian and I believe in loving everybody, and I believe in redemption, and I believe that God works in mysterious ways. But we simply must have standards, you know, to prevent “them” from getting in and . . . well frankly making the rest of us uncomfortable. And I’m afraid you are one of “them.”
Don’t worry, you’ll have plenty of good company – all the Jews and the Mormons, all the Muslims and the Hindus and the Buddhists – heck most of the people who ever lived will be with you. You see, they don’t quite measure up either.
Have fun. We’ll be laughing at . . . oops, I mean thinking of you. Say hi to Mitt for me.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:16amPerhaps you should look up the word bigot. It defines your attitude and opinions to a T
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:23am.
Boy did I hit the Jackass Jack Pot with that post LMAO…………
I have nothing to worry about, Jesus Loves me just the way I am. “Broken”…..But he’ll fix me up one day……
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:31amRigel_Orion, you missed my point. Those who would say “I would hate to be her when she stands in front of Jesus” misunderstand the fact that ALLAH could be the true god. The christian would be in just as much trouble. The LEVEL of torment is meaningless. Both afterlives are entirely immoral and the deity who creates such torturous eternities are NOT worthy of any worship at all, but should be shunned.
Fortuantely NEITHER Yahweh nor Allah is real so there’s nothing to worry about for anyone.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:38am@Spanky
Report Post »As long as your not using your “fallen man” as an excuse not to try to listen to the leading of the Spirit of GOD within you, you and I shall meet and hang out in Heaven.
I look forwards to NOT TALKING about politics, progressives, atheists, Darwood, Turtles that aren’t but are, and everything else we won’t even remember, PRAISE GOD!
Every one has sinned and fallen short of the glory of GOD. The difference between believers and non believers is one group knows they need help to get better the other doesn’t see the problem.
Stoic one
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:50amShe only wants one opinion/belief at school… her own.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:58amWill she be invited to the white house to shake the presidents hand. Hmm
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:53pm@nomnomno
Report Post »“I’d rather spend an eternity in hell then be in heaven with a group of bigots like you”
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Silly Rabbit ………“With your own Mouth You Have Condemned Yourself”
brother_ed
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:49amI have read and reread. I have searched and researched. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “you have the right to not be offended”
I feel sorry for her. She has a warped sense of reality. Life is going to be very stressful for this poor little girl.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:20amI’d look a little deeper. Go one layer down and you’ll find the true power and manipulator of this situation. She’s a pawn being moved by someone else. A bit like the little boy manipulated by his gay mom to confront Michelle Bachmann with a question he clearly did not understand.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:47amI’ll pay $100 to the first person that can find “separation of church and state” in our Constitution.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:10amKnow what also isn’t in the Constitution? The federal government involved in any way in marriage. Or mention of God. Or immigration. Or the electoral college.
Our Constitution is the basis of law, but not the extent of it.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:39am@Locked
Report Post »Marriage is handled by the States. Immigration and naturalization are established by the Federal government as stated in the Constitution. And the electoral college is established in the Constitution.
Vapor Trail
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 11:48am@thejerk. That’s easy, While it isn’t worded “separation of church and state” the first line of the 1st amendment dictates it.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
(Then of course it continues) or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
What does that mean?
At an absolute minimum, the Establishment Clause was intended to prohibit the federal government from declaring and financially supporting a national religion.
The supreme court has ruled repeatedly in favor of a separation of church and state. And of religion,clergy, and prayer in public schools as they are federally or state funded.
In a letter to the church Jefferson wrote this,
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.
Religion has no place in public schools, that is why there are private schools. She took a stand on her beliefs that differ from yours, and you all got butt hurt, because once again a judge correctly upheld the constitution.
You have the right to religion you don’t have the right to fo
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:13pm@Tzion
“Marriage is handled by the States. Immigration and naturalization are established by the Federal government as stated in the Constitution. And the electoral college is established in the Constitution.”
Marriage is also federally recognized, and comes with specific benefits, such as different federal taxes, social security, pensions for public sector employees, etc.
Immigration is never used in the Constitution; the closest we get is the power of a federal government to regulate “naturalization.” It was through a Supreme Court decision that this was formally extended to immigration in total. There is a concept of it, but immigration itself is never explicitly mentioned.
In the same way, electors are mentioned in the Constitution, as is the process but not an Electoral College itself. The term became popular later, but nowhere is it called a “college.” And until the 12th amendment, the process was different than today, as ties were possible (hello, Jefferson election in 1800).
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:45amJESUS GOD, we have really screwed things up down here. Please forgive us and have mercy on our souls.
PRAY ON, AMERICA.
Pray HIS WILL, HIS WILL, nothing more (not even our wills and desires), but GOD’s will. It is our only hope and our salvation.
PRAY for the lost, all lost, especially for the children. Dear GOD, what have we done?
Report Post »MrOVW
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:00amwhat have you done? you’ve bought into mass delusion to coax your small mind into believing in myth, because you don’t have it within you to know the difference between right and wrong choices without following the rest of the herd down the path to the edge of the cliff. lemming.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:01amKick…..I’m afraid things have gone too far in this country. The liberals are winning and with the election of Obama our country has become lost.
I, like you, keep praying for our country but as I read the Bible and the prophecies I believe that God’s patience is at an end.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:21am“difference between right and wrong choices without following the rest of the herd down the path to the edge of the cliff. lemming.”
so says the lemming, following the latest chic and cool thing, atheism…too bad you can’t think for yourself…that would take courage and integrity…things you are lacking….
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:30am@Hi Gma
Report Post »Don’t stop praying, and remember “offenses shall come”, not might, not perhaps, but they are coming as we see posted here.
Lucifers minions speaking their foul words of hatred against GOD most high, but remember that our Lord forgave even upon a cross. No matter how these Lucifarians act, we must forgive, though it’s a very difficult thing to do.
They seem to be attacking us, the Christian, but in truth they are attacking GOD himself as we are but sinners saved by grace and not by works lest any man should boast,
We have seen the signs draw closer and closer, we wait upon his ( Jesus’s) soon return. “Then with a shout and the sound of the trump, the dead in Christ shall rise first.then we who are alive shall rise, and being changed from the mortal to immortal in a twinkling meet our savior in the heavenlys.”
And again, we are incense under the throne of GOD “how long Lord, how long”
“persecuted but not abandoned, struck down but not destroyed, ”
Preserver, for in Christ Jesus all things are Possiable.
“I shall press on to the highest calling of GOD through the Blood of Christ Jesus”
Your in my prayers.
Ookspay
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:34amMROVW,
So this is how you get your kicks, insulting people’s religion? Get a life. I am sure that you are abusive in all of your relationships, you are pathetic. You are a walking poster boy for the Godless American. Angry, lost and virulent.
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:43am“He turned out to be a really cool judge,” she said. “He wrote that I was an articulate, courageous young woman in his decision. And that was — I was so flattered. It was just awesome for him to say that.”
HE SAID I WAS SPECIAL, and that was AWSOME! OMG!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:50amIt was “EPIC”!
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:04am“Awesome” . . .one of Ted Nugent’s most overused words.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:43amIt is evil. The active disparagement of people’s faiths, and their heart felt belief in them is truly evil.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:00amPractice your faith in private and in your church. Don’t bother those of us living in reality.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:17am“Practice your faith in private and in your church. Don’t bother those of us living in reality.”
you should do the same….instead of trying to turn is into a fascist state.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:18am@fiddle
Report Post »Nope, if I’m somewhere I will express my faith, if you hear me get ear plugs if you don’t like it. I have the inalienable right to free expression anywhere and I do take my rights from GOD. And you are not GOD, though that’s what you think you are.
GOD bless you!
Snowdog2112
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 1:16pmOh so we’re supposed to shut up but it is totally fine for you to call us hateful, vindictive, imbeciles, and haters of freedom. You say you’re sorry for our children and call our faith a lie (that’s all just within the past few minutes) Yep that’s fascism at work!!!
Report Post »sparcky
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 3:52pmfidelcashflo44 You are one angry person. Your replies only tear apart. I worked in a Buddhist community for 2 decades. A lot of wisdom gleaned from that religion. The readings and applications bring harmony within, focus on now, letting harm and ills go. How about some comments on Buddhism?
Report Post »bpodlesnik
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:43amI watched untill she started to read the first question, and couldn’t take it anymore.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:35amGuess I was wrong…She IS an evil little thing.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:38amStupid is, as stupid does…well, evil is, as evil does too. A sad, lost soul. Pray for her.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:43amRead the comments on her youtube account.
It is a lost world.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:46amCome the day we all stand before God in judgment He will proclaim those who have done his work, and those who have have not. I pray she will find the light and truth while time remains.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:47amThis little brat hasn’t lived enough life to spew her garbage to others. Whats next, a special colored ribbon and fundraising for her cause?
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:02amYeah, . . . it is evil to honestly speak your mind for something that you have a strong stance for. How awful she is to dare speak out against the very sensitive Christian faith. Damn her!
But seriously, you guys are just funny in how you promote the word “evil” around like it actually means something.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 10:32am“This little brat hasn’t lived enough life to spew her garbage to others.”
Honest question: what is the age requirement for you to take up a court case against something you feel strongly about? 18? Older? Are you honestly saying that children shouldn’t have the right to air their grievances in front of a court?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:32amJessica, you have such a bright future in the Democrat party! Congratulations.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:31amWho cares? By next January she won”t matter..
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 9:44amNext January? I give her two weeks.
Report Post »ChuckJ
Posted on January 18, 2012 at 7:50pmAgreed
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