Does George Zimmerman Appear Unscathed in New Police Video?
- Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:36pm by
Mytheos Holt
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Tonight, CNN’s Anderson Cooper aired a clip of George Zimmerman, the man who shot Trayvon Martin, being escorted into the Sandford police station in handcuffs. The video was originally obtained by ABC News, and raises some questions about the account Zimmerman gave of the night he shot Martin.
Zimmerman‘s attorney had stated that he believed Trayvon Martin broke Zimmerman’s nose. Yet, as Cooper notes in the video, there is no sign in the video of any physical injury to the portion of Zimmerman’s face that is shown, which includes his nose.
However, as Cooper also notes, the officer continues to glance at the back of Zimmerman’s head. The head wound Zimmerman was supposed to have suffered beyond his alleged broken nose would have been on the back of his head, even though the camera quality is too poor to make out exactly what the back of Zimmerman’s head looks like. The officers also rub something off Zimmerman’s jacket, which Cooper speculates might be blood, but is impossible to make out, again due to camera quality.
Nevertheless, the account that Zimmerman’s lawyer has since given of his actions does appear to be embellished, based on this tape. Zimmerman also appears more physically fit than previously disseminated photos of him suggest. Watch the clip from Cooper’s show below, and see what you make of the depiction of Zimmerman:
Updated
George Zimmerman’s father has now stepped forward to speak with Orlando television station WOFL-TV:
LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) – For the first time since that fateful night on February 26, the father of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager sat down for a television interview.
Robert Zimmerman, father of George Zimmerman, said he decided it was time to speak out for his son, against the advice of others. He shared with us what George said happened on the night that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin died.
“It’s my understanding that Trayvon Martin got on top of him and just started beating him,” the 64-year-old Robert Zimmerman said.
And some bloggers are noting possible signs of injury to Zimmerman in the video. The DC points to a possible mark
on the back of Zimmerman’s head:
Image: The Daily Caller
Fox News host Sean Hannity also stressed that Zimmerman had already been treated by paramedics prior to his arrival at the police station:
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kc4freedom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:18amNobody can look at this video and say, zimmerman is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.
Comments like;
he is too clean or wasn’t walking like someone that was attacked or beaten are stupid and made by someone seeing what they want to see, not willing to wait for the facts before placing judgement.
I was attacked and beaten one night and almost strangled to death before fighting off my attacker.
Later while speaking to the police, I didnt walk like I was beaten iether.
This video is just another media tool to fan the flames of racial hate in the name of ratings.
According to the media reports,
Trayvon was an innocent 12 year old boy who was brutally shot down in cold blood by a gun toting, racist white guy, who hated black people and was looking to kill some black kid that night.
Media LOVES this kind of stuff because they can use it to get ratings!
Week minded corporate conditioned sheeple are swallowing the *********.
The only thing this video proves is that Zimmerman was arrested as evidenced by the handcuffs.
Which is not what was initially reported.
Its good to see C.L. Bryant coming forward in the name of reason and sanity, not all black leaders are racists.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:30amKC I agree. I was attacked and beat the man to a pulp and I was injuredd but adrenaline does mighty things. This guy will never get a decent trial in America between the media and the presidents weigh in. It is craziness pure insanity. CL is refreshing in this day and age
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:38amThe same liberals who were crying, why didn’t the police do anything to him, are the fools that didn’t know that they did handcuff him and evaluate the situation. Liberals and lefties think that their opinions are facts and the law. Then they retreat to racial comments, when none are warranted. They especially like to play the blame game, and disregard any differences of opinion. In their mind, they’re always right. They go on to assume a gazillion things as if it were the very truth from heaven. They then go on to cry wolf, as if they were some sort of victims. They’re pathetic, illogical, and spout pure nonsense.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:44amSelf defense is an affirmative defense. That means a defense that goes “I did it but …” An affirmative defense works differently from a straightforward “I didn’t do it” defense in that the defendant has to prove the part that comes after the “but …” The prosecution only has to prove that you shot a guy, it’s up to you to prove you had a reason.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:45amSince Zimmerman is Hispanic your should have said “that is mighty brown of you”
Report Post »moonbat666
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:47am12 year old? That’s a new one.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:48amCooper it is MarTin, not MarDin. Whoever is in charge of the telepromter cant spell or you cant read. I am sick of this story.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:00amAgreed RESTORED. I, too, am sick of this story. It’s nothing more than political propaganda. This story is and should have been local news. Sadly, deaths occur every day in this country. This should never have been national news.
Report Post »WeekendAtBernankes
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:04am“That’s mighty white”
First of all, the guy is not white, just because of his name. Second, there is nothing about being white that inherently suggests that all white people assume that other white people do not commit crimes.
Third, the presumption of innocence is the basis of all legal prosecutions, so until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman committed murder, in the eyes of the law he is innocent.
I can’t guess your race from your comment but I would certainly guess that you failed high school civics.
Face...Palm
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:48am@LUMBAR SPINE
You sir are what we call a “non-thinker”.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:51ammoonbat666, Lumbar Spine
The picture that everyone has been showing Trayvon is when was 13 years old.
Mighty white…?
Isn’t everyone in our system innocent till proven guilty…? Or are you going the Cuban / Venezuelan route already…?
Got’s to love that Marxist freedom….. MORONS
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:54amLet’ see…we need to presume that Mr. Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.
Trayvon wasn’t presumed to be innocent when he was stalked by Mr. Zimmrman. He was profiled for WWB – Walking While Black. Trayvon wasn’t presumed innocent when confronted by Mr. Zimmerman. Trayvon wasn’t presumed innocent when he was murdered by Mr. Zimmerman. No, in fact he was labeled as the aggressor even though his sole intent was to flee the person following and harrassing him. Oh, Trayvon wasn’t presumed innocent while wearing his hoodie…no, in fact many of you on here called him a hood, a banger and a thug, an those are the nice names. Was Trayvon presumed to be innocent when his twitter and facebook accounts were hacked and published in an attempt to excoriate him in the press? Of course not.
You see, the only people in this country who are EVER presumed innocent of any crime until proven guilty are white people.
Before you begin, I am not a liberal, I am not a democrat, I am not a race baiter. I am a hard working american who struggles to do the right thing like every decent american. It absolutely disgusts me to see the country I fought for turning out this way. Al Sharpton doesn’t have to speak for every black in order for some of what he says to still be true. Every black that walks the street and wears a hoodie is not a thug in a gang trying to rob or kill you. I happen to be a pastor of a church. I lost a son to murder by a white drugged up crackhead.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:17am@ Pastor GTCOGIC,
First, I am sorry for the loss of your son. I can’t imagine the pain you experienced.
Your entire post otherwise screams of your bias (and, dare, I say prejudical) mindset in this matter. I wasn’t there, nor were you, the night whatever actually happened to Trayvon. However, your WWB bias suggests that only blacks are potential targets in this country. I fear for my safety and life every single time I walk alone in a city at night. I have no idea the race of the shadowy people who lurk on city streets at night. Yet, I am apprehensive.
Further, your comparison of Trayvon’s “presumption of innocence” to Zimmerman’s is apples and oranges. You suggest you have all the details from that night and that Zimmerman exercised legal rights in what subsequently occurred. Maybe your theory is correct, maybe it’s not…..if you are right, it wasn‘t society that removed Trayvon’s innocence……only the potential perp. The issue for Zimmerman, however, is that he potentially will be charged with murder. In that case, it is our laws that assume he is innocent until proven guilty. No one person, nor the vigilante NBP, can deny Zimmerman’s right for his date in court to allow him his right to a trial……and that is exactly how it should be. If a jury of his peers finds him guilty, then he should pay the appropriate penalty for his crime. That is the law of our land.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:19amI was in a bad car accident. Didn’t feel a thing the night of the accident but had go to the hospital the next day when I passed out. I had a concussion and heavy bruising. So this blurry video is as worthless as the commie Obama…….
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:25amAnd Pastor, Sir, while you may not be a liberal or a democrat, you don‘t seem to be spreading Christ’s message of love toward white people.
“You see, the only people in this country who are EVER presumed innocent of any crime until proven guilty are white people.”
If your heart was without bias and you really wanted to find examples of white people being presumed guilty prior to trial, you would find many examples. Blessings to you!
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:28amNEW WEBSITE – This Hate Crimes Website has just gone up – it’s Disturbing but it needs to be reported.
http://www.aracewar.com/
It has begun weather we like it or not – lock and load and carry an extra clip. I listened to Obama, Jackson, Sheila J. Lee, Spike Lee, Farrakhan, and Sharp-ton. I will protect my family.
Report Post »we_speak_with_fire
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:29amum…lumbar spine…yes I have decided he’s innocent, because the Constitution says he’s innocent UNTIL proven guilty. FACT 1-zimmerman’s story, FACT 2, witness confirms at least part of his story placing martin on top of zimmerman beating him. FACT 3-according to police report, zimmerman had blood on his face, lacerations on the back of his head, and WAS TREATED MEDICALLY IN BACK OF CRUISER. ever had a broken nose? I’ve given one that was a geyser, I‘ve received one that didn’t bleed that much at all. oh, and another fact, zimmerman states on the 911 call that martin was LOOKING IN WINDOWS AND ACTING SUSPICIOUS. Neighborhood watch pamphlet I’ve looked up define suspicious behavior including guess what…LOOKING IN WINDOWS. So all these people saying he went to get a snack at 711 and was returning home are wrong. He made at least one extra stop to look in a window. I guess the fact that at school he had a book bag with a flathead screwdriver and jewelry couldn’t possibly lend credibility to the statement of him looking in windows? I mean why not if you all are making the leap that this was a 12 year old boy who was murdered while minding his own business.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:30am@Copatriots. Thank you for a rational and well thought out rebuttle. I would only disagree with you on one point…my statements were not being made to determine guilt or innocence on the part of either person. My statements were made as a direct result of the hundreds, if not thousands of posts this site has received from the first day this story was reported that immediately judged Zimmerman innocent and Trayvon Martin guilty, and might I add, deserving of what happened to him. This is not my opinion, but should you pick any one of the stories posted on this site, and read the comments section, you will see that this is so.
I grew up in the civil rights era, where blacks were killed and imprisoned almost daily, based on nothing more than perception and innuendo. Times have changed, and I thought for the better. Yet, I read on here people advocating race riots,advocating violence, etc. I hope you would agree with me that due to the conservative nature of this site, and due to the fact that the majority, not all but the majority of the people on this site are white. Therefore, the majority of the posts being left here are being done by whites, not blacks. Would you be fair and state with me that bias is a two headed coin? Would you leave a reply to some of the others on here and make the same statement you made to me? Or could there also be some bias on your part as well? I mean you did single me out for comment.
Report Post »gtcogic
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:36am@Copatriots…To your second point…Christ did indeed talk about love. But He also talked about justice. Listen, I am not your enemy, nor do I wish to be. It is possible that we can be great friends and discuss and debate principles that help our races come together. I’m all for that. But as you ask me to open my eyes to my possible bias, I’m asking you to do the same. As I said before, I’ve read some of your posts on here. It is interesting that you did not rebut or reach out to the people spewing the vile and vitriol that is permeated here. You happened to reach out to the person that you presumed is of another race who put up an opposing view to yours. That is fine, and I appreciate and respect your view. I have not read anything hateful from you, and would never say that you, in any way are racist. But my question is, why did you respond to ME, and not some of the other CLEARLY evil and hateful posters on here?
Report Post »BigNickMontana
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:47amIn this video the affected area of Zimmermans face is less than 25×25 pixles. As well it is after he has already been cleaned up by an EMT, you know they have to do that sort of thing seeing as how allowing some one to walk around with blood all over them is a bio hazard.
If you think this video proves anything one way or another you are smoking some serious drugs.
Why they chose to release it is beyond me.
Report Post »Bush Hating Conervatives make me sick
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:47am@kc4freedom. Hey Are you in Kansas City, I’m in Belton MO, grew up in KCK.
Please someone answer this.. According to 9-11 dispatch
9-11 dispatch. Are you follwoing him
Zimmerman yes.
9-11 dispatch, we don’t need you to do that
Zimmerman, ok.
So he follows him anways, does Martin confront the guy, cause he’s following him.
If so, wouldn’t you, if someone is stalking you?
So if he did confront him, and he beat Zimmerman up, and then Zimmerman shot him. Claims Self defense.
How is it self defense, when you were the one stalking the guy.
9-11 dispatch told you not to follow him
you did anyways, then you get beat up, and you shoot Martin.
It’s not self defense if you were the AGITATOR.
copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:04am@ Pastor GT (as a Christian, I noticed your identification as such and feel compelled to address you accordingly)
I read your comment as I read and respond to others every day. When something speaks to me, I respond. Your post did. As I noted above, this story (which is sad in countless ways) should have remained a local issue and has become insanely politicized. To be honest, I haven‘t followed the news on this story from it’s inception so I likewise haven’t seen all of the comments.
I have, however, noticed everyone thinking they know what happened that night and rushing to judgment without allowing the police to do their jobs. I have also noticed Obama politicizing Trayvon‘s death and Trayvon’s own parents seemingly trying to capitalize on it. It is all incredibly sad.
Your post struck me as furthering this as a racial issue. It is not. It is a matter of an altercation that occurred one night between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin that ended tragically in the death of one young man.
Surely, I agree with you and condemn any acts of rioting of violence. I sense you are reading frustration by what this has become versus a racial issue.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:23am@ Pastor,
I actually hadn’t got very far in the comments to address others……as you can see yours is near the top. I responded to a comment earlier as you can also see. I am not being selective on my responses because I am just not following this story very closely. I truly believe it should be a local issue. I clicked on the article originally because the headline indicates a new twist that made me curious. Again, your post struck me.
As to Christ seeking justice, I am curious. He surely conveyed love more. Where do you find justice being something a Christian should pursue more than love?
I do agree we could be great friends and could discuss and debate principles that help our races come together. I just ask that we leave race at the door and discuss issues as fellow Christians.
FWIW, I didn’t presume you were of another race. You presented yourself as such in the last paragraph of your original post. :-)
Report Post »kf4omc
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:43amNo we havent said Zimmerman is Innocent. But in America everyone is innocent till PROVEN guilty!!
Report Post »Christine Graham
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:58amLumbarSpine:
Yeah, it’s called the LAW: innocent until proven guilty!!
DUMBASS.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:41amLumbar Spine
Report Post »Sorry troll, but nothing in KC’s comment said anything about Zimmerman being innocent. Quit trying to stir things up by being a complete moron. To tell you the truth if KC had said he was innocent he would have been correct because in this country we have a little thing called innocent until PROVEN guilty. The news media spouting half truths and innuendo does not make the man guilty. Showing pictures of Trayvon when he was 12, 13 and 14 is really irresponsible at the very least. I think you should maybe take a valium or some ritalin whatever it is you need to take to even you out and let the police and courts do their job before you appoint yourself judge jury and executioner.
phil1765
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:56amgtcogic
Report Post »While I sympathize with the loss of your son, I have to say that your comment was very off base. You sir don’t know the actual facts of the case, you also don’t know the defendant or the victim, and to presume that you know that the kid was murdered just by the information that you have gotten from the MSM is in every way very preemptive on your part. I am also horrified by the occurence but I don’t have enough verified facts to say if Trayvon was a thug or not, and nor do I have enough information to say that Zimmerman is a murderer and neither do you if you aren’t blinded by your rage at a perceived wrong. I am sorry Pastor but I don’t believe that you are supposed to judge lest ye be judged. If the guy is guilty I am sure that the facts will all come out, if he is not guilty and it is proven that Trayvon was the aggressor how will you address your congregation? I am not trying to demean you in any way but rushing to judgement, especially when you are depending on information from the MSM is really not a very good way to go about anything.
copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:11am@ Pastor
To continue this dialog….
I’m wondering where you saw bias in my original comment to you. Look above your post. Where is any vile or vitriol comment I should have commented on? You suggested bias from me based on your view that the majority are white posters on this site. You can look at the numerous articles The Blaze has posted on this case and you will find precious few, if any, comments from me on this story. Until about a week ago, I was too busy to actually follow the story. After hearing all of the talk about it, I started trying to figure out what it was about. That’s the truth…yet you projected bias onto me without any evidence from my very own words. Just sayin’.
Also, times did change in this country since the horrible times of you experienced in you youth. Many people, including whites, voted for Obama which is how he was elected in 2008. I didn’t because I saw his liberal, Alinsky-style (who was white) ways from the beginning. The divisiveness in this country rests solely on the back of Obama and the progressive elitists. Even before this tragic event occurred, Obama punted on numerous opportunities to unify all races in this country. Not once has he genuinely attempted to bring this country together. Rather, he takes every opportunity to divide us. The phrase “United we stand, divided we fall” comes to mind. Obama is intentionally advancing the racial tensions you remember from your childhood.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:27amRan out of room there…. :-)
I mention all of this because I seek unity. I am of one mind with you in Christ. The politics of this country means little compared to the unity between Christians. And politics means even less when compared to eternity with Him! And, Pastor, Love trumps justice before our Righteous, Ancient of Days, Perfect Judge. To Him, belongs all justice and He will right every wrong.
Report Post »blkbelt7
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:59amwe must all remember, today 3-29-12, Zimmerman is innocent according to the constitution….last I looked Obama hasn’t transformed us to a communists nation yet. Let the grand jury decide if there is enough evidence to charge him. If there is, then let the court and jury decide…gulity or not guilty…juries do make mistakes….look at OJ….just saying….
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:14am@ Lumbar I think the generally accepted idea concerning our legal system is Innocent until PROVEN guilty – so rightfully, we should all be thinking he is innocent until and if the facts of the case are presented to a jury with a verdict rendered.
Report Post »19Agroundpounder
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:22amWhere is the OJ jury?
Report Post »Aeric98
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:51am@ “LUMBAR SPINE”
Zimmerman is not white.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:57am@Spiney
Report Post »:Yeh, I guessKC has. Kind of a nice balance to you. Why do you have Peruvians?
RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:01am“Who shot Buckwheat? The man behind the gun….John David Stutz – and now we go to his 3rd grade teacher.
What was John like in School?”
“Oh he was quiet, sort of a loner”
“Do you think he shot Buckwheat?”
“Why yes, most definitely”
Now – could we possibly get a microscope up his arse to see if he craps too?
Report Post »thunder4570
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:01am@lumbarspineless,
Report Post »your reading comprehension is absolutly amazing! KC did not allude to the mans guilt or innocence just that you cant tell a thing from the video. but based on you comment you must have all of the facts and already have made a judgement! with superpowers that you display I nominate you to be the top cop of the country, you are the greatest!
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:27am@Chet Hempetead
Report Post »Self defence- – didn’t think you had it in you!!
drago
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:44am@Restored one
Report Post »I too am sick of this story,had this been a black on black killing, this would be nothing more than a sidebar.But, since its a white on black…..wait,Zimmerman is not white, hmmmm,oh crap, oh well, this is the usual for the so called “black” community,get all outraged when one of there “babies” dies at the hads of a “white” person,run around the media claiming this happens everyday to blacks,make millions selling the story,and at the end of the day, its still one more dead black kid, who, in a few months, we will never know he existed……
rangerp
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:50amhttp://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43
FBI crime stats
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:09amtres·pass
[tres-puhs, -pas] Show IPA
noun
1.
Law .
a.
an unlawful act causing injury to the person, property, or rights of another, committed with force or violence, actual or implied.
b.
a wrongful entry upon the lands of another.
c.
the action to recover damages for such an injury.
2.
an encroachment or intrusion.
3.
an offense, sin, or wrong.
There are many types of gated communities and they have ONE purpose. To keep trespassers OUT !! Why do many need “ VOLUNTEER ” COMMUNITY WATCH Organizations? Because of TRESPASSERS and THEIVES !! You would think the “Speech Giver” and the FAR-LEFT would be applauding Zimmerman !!!
This has turned into one big “Dog and Pony” show to see whom can say the most OUTLANDISH thing. !! These Congressmen and WOMEN are a disgrace to the WE THE PEOPLE that they represent in THEIR districts. That is what there job is !! They feel that they represent the NATION. The truth is they are hired to represent the WE THE PEOPLE in THEIR DISTRICTS. Shut the hell up and mind your own business. I wonder how many murders take place in Shelia Jackson, Waters, Clever, Rush and all the other BLOWHARDS Districts !!!
Report Post »I lived near Jacksons district for years and it is OFF LIMITS to WHITES !!! The police know if you are white and hanging out there, you are probably looking for drugs. !!
Nothing will change in this country until WE THE PEOPLE demand TERM LIMITS NOW !!! and get these RABBLE roser, HIDDEN A
JayCee
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:14am“This video is just another media tool to fan the flames of racial hate in the name of ratings.”
Exactly!
Report Post »The video was made after he was treated by paramedics.
Only the paramedics and those on the scene know the extent of the treatment and any cleanup of blood.
SgtB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:15amI agree with you KC. There is no way to tell from this video that is grainy and taken hours after the confrontation, how badly Zimmerman was hurt. Also, if someone attacks you from behind, you don’t really care ow many times they hit you or stop to question their age before you shoot them dead.
And as for the media making a big deal of their supposed 60 pound weight difference… I’ve seen some lightweights that could put a hurt on anyone no matter their size. Personally, I was ~ 220 in high school and squatting 400+. I knew a rail thin wrestler who could lift as much or more than me and he probably only weighed ~150. So the weight difference is of no concern in the real world. The real world is not a boxing match. If that were the case, then a lone wolf or coyote would be of no concern to a human because they generally only weigh ~ 80 pounds, maybe up to 150 in the North. That is well under the 200 pound weight of an average man. Anyone citing their weight class as a reason to lock up Zimmerman is a complete moron and waste of human life.
Report Post »daniel1138
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:17amHaving grown up in a neighborhood that was predominently white, but by the end of my childhood it was predominently white I can tell you that bias is what EVERYBODY does. Birds of a feather flock together. It is an old saying , but it is true. What you are seeing swirling around the corpse of Trayvon Martin is chaos and revolution, just like Rodney King. We will see if Black folks will burn the cities down again. “Instead, Denny was rescued by an unarmed, African American civilian named Bobby Green Jr. who, seeing the assault live on television, rushed to the scene and drove Denny to the hospital using the victim’s own truck,” This quote supports the proper attitude of Mr Green in April of 1992, toward Reginald Denny. I would pick up any man from the street whether he be from my flock or not? Why can’t you? People want money, power and now they burn in thier passions? Is this how Jesus walked. Keep your lamps trimmed and burnin people. What color was Jesus on the cross? He was blood red.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:23amLUMBAR SPINE, as usual that is mighty dumb@$$ of you. I for one am not calling this incident either way. At the first part of this I believed that Zimmerman was the antagonist of the situation until more and more information came out. Naturally, I still cannot say for certain, and still insist that all wait until the investigations are complete. As a former cop I can say this though. Now it is obvious from these pics that Zimmerman was actually arrested and taken to the police station. I always carried a military first aid kit with me and stocked with plenty of 4X4s for good reason. Those are gauze pads. Before putting somebody in my vehicle who is bleeding and has refused medical attention at the time, I have either cleaned them up or allowed them to clean themselves up prior to entering my vehicle. That vehicle is any cops second home virtually and he or she wants to keep it clean rather than have to clean it out later. And for the last couple of decades nobody wants blood to touch anything. Everybody with whom I worked felt the same way. Many of these subjects often relented later and asked for medical attention. Too many of them are pumped up with adrenalin that they feel as if they are okay. Once they calm down the story often changes. Do I know if this is what actually happened? No, I don’t, but neither does anybody else here. I still say to keep an open mind and watch for more release of information and for the results of the final investigation.
Report Post »Big_Mike
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:24amThe media are SCRAMBLING to find something to back up the scenario they put forth. Once the story about Trayvon Martin being, say, less than angelic, surfaced they’re panicked.
The headline ABC used for this video is “George Zimmerman not injured” or something like that. So, you post a grainy, inconclusive video with a leading headline. People will see what they want to see.
Never mind, of course, the two eyewitnesses who saw Martin beating Zimmerman, or the police report.
It’s obvious that Zimmerman would have been treated by EMS on scene. They would have cleaned his wounds, and from the cop looking at the back of his head it’s evident there was a wound.
The media are pushing this into a level of coverage which is unnecessary. Race riots are inevitable.
Report Post »Jester311
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:24amI have to agree that the video doesn’t lean the evidence one way or another. What it does is add more uncertainty to an already volatile situation. The facts of the case are they will have affidavits of the officers on the scene, the witnesses on the scene, the emt’s on the scene. They will have high-res photographs in the dozens, if not hundreds, of the scene, Trayvon’s body, Zimmerman’s head, face, hands, etc. There will be forensics, ballistics, you name it. All of this will be bundled up with a final report and placed on the DA’s desk or before a grand jury or both for “them” to decide whether to prosecute Mr. Zimmerman. It is not the media‘s place to provide evidence for the mass audience to decide this man’s fate before he even gets close to a court room. They are intentionally or not, fanning vigilantism.
I do not envy the law enforcement, the DA, nor the court system’s job piecing all the facts together in this case. With all the damage the media is doing in this place, the courts will be very hard pressed to fill a jury with “unbiased” peers if this goes to trial.
My personal opinion is it looks fishy from both sides of the event. Zimmerman should have listened to 911 dispatch and not followed Trayvon. Trayvon was not as innocent as his family would have you believe with his H.S. suspension and “possible” drug and stolen good possession that I have seen in the news reports. I pray the truth can be found.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:25amObamas bunch must really be cooking up something big to keep this story so prevalent in the media. Stuff like this is the smoke scree they use to screw us ya know.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:28amlumbar “ mighty white of you”
You FOOL, you show your colors, all men are to be considered INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law. FOOL and I hope you don’t like it.
Report Post »MeCpl13
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:28am@Bush Hating Conervatives make me sick… so you’re saying that following someone is stalking them, and gives someone the right to jump on them and beat them? Really? Trayvon absolutely had the right to confront someone he thought was following him, but he in no way had the right to attack someone walking in the same direction. Further, by all accounts, Zimmerman continued to follow Martin because he was walking between houses, not in the road or on the sidewalk. Once Zimmerman came out on the road, he then stopped following Martin, instead walking back toward his vehicle. It was then that Martin came up behind Zimmerman and attacked him.
It was also reported Martin was looking into windows of homes as he walked through their yards (again, not on the sidewalk, but trespassed on their properties.) That is certainly suspicious behavior and the neighborhood watch is told to look out for such behavior.
If you honestly feel that following a person gives them the right to jump you, break your nose, and pound your head on the sidewalk, Lord help us all.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:44amAnother point here is that we have only heard from the race baiters and our propaganda media that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin once the 911 operators were contacted. I have not read nor heard any verified statements regarding that to be the fact. But, any neighborhood watch personnel certainly would try to keep somebody wondering through private property lawns in sight so as to tell soon to arrive police where the suspect is. This also gains intel as to be able to describe the individual. In this day and age of cell phones I just wonder how many times an observant neighbor has gone out and closely watched a potential perp while on his/her cell phone with a 911 operator. Furthermore, not certain of every area in the nation, but I suspect that in a small city like Sanford, the 911 operators are NOT policemen and do not carry the authority to ORDER a citizen not to do something like follow a suspect. The operators statement was “we do not need you to do that.” Naturally, some people will back off, while others will not. Neither are wrong, but it is the operators attempt to warn the caller to stay safe.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:59amdb321
“NEW WEBSITE – This Hate Crimes Website has just gone up – it’s Disturbing but it needs to be reported.”
http://www.aracewar.com/
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This website shouldn’t exist. Rush Limbaugh‘s shows shouldn’t exist. As Rush Limbaugh has pointed out, it is not only his talent that has made him rich & famous> It is the fact that ABC, CBS & NBC & later CNN refused to report “ALL” the news or edited the news to present all facts that supported their biases. In other words there was a vacuum. If the MSM did their job people would keep it simple & stay on one channel, but they know they are being lied to by the MSM & so they channel & web surf.
sWampy
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:59amOh, come on, blacks weren’t killed daily during the civil rights era. If they were, their wouldn’t be a street in the nation not named some martyred black dude. It’s amazing how poor liberals memories or knowledge of history is. The numbers you guys spew are as tainted as the abortion people claiming thousands and thousands of women were dying a year from botched abortions, when the real number didn’t even make it to double digits.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:02amLumbar Spine
You saying that is mighty white of you is a way of say that was “Mighty lib of Lumbar Spine”
Instead of saying “That is mighty white of you” you might has well have *******, honky, “yopu people” or any other ‘hand grenade’ type word or phrase
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:10amThe police report clearly states he was bloodied and was treated by police/medical. Here is a link to the report.
Report Post »http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report
obrien871
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:12amI was in a fight once and got my nose broke it bled like crazy but afterward it stopped and you couldn‘t even tell I’d been hit. Not even a black eye.
If Zimmerman‘s last name was Gonzalez this wouldn’t even be a story and he wouldn’t be “white-Hispanic”.
If he just won a Noble Prize in physics the media would be calling him Hispanic. Just like Obama is African-American when he’s more Irish than black.
I knew when the media were first calling a man that obviously looked Hispanic white what they were trying to do, start a riot.
This whole case is the epitome of what both concealed carry and the stand your ground laws are all about. If you’re attacked you have the right to defend yourself.
If a 6′3″ guy is on top of you beating your head on concrete you have the right to shoot them to protect yourself. Especially after you shout for help and none is coming. End of story.
If Zimmerman is thrown in jail for 20 years for exercising his rights under the law we all become victims again. No one will ever protect themselves for fear of being incarcerated themselves.
Report Post »Pokey054
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:13amABC, of course, makes this video out to be the “smoking gun” and definitive proof that that Zimmerman and the police are lying about his injuries. It’s always a conspiracy against blacks–always.
What I also find appalling is the over the top media coverage of an event like this, but nada when the violence is black-on-pick another color. Events only get coverage when it fits the narrative. Last month a white kid was set on fire, yes set on fire by black youths and that got no national coverage—wrong message.
Our post-racial president, with the help of his propaganda machine, and race-baiting leaders in the black community have set back race relations in this country 60 years.
This is all agenda driven. The Progressive left want and need this to be a summer of violence, and the self-serving purveyors of racial divide like Jackson, and Sharpton make their living off racial strife–it is literally their justification for existence
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This is literally the 60’s all over again–people wanting to create race wars and wars between the haves (1%-ers) and the have not’s (99%-ers). It didn’t work in the 60’s, because the people in power we not radicals, but things are different now. The radicals that tried to ferment violence in the 60’s are now in power. The people in the streets are not radicals, they are just necessary idiots.
Don‘t play their game and they can’t win.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:17am@LUMBAR SPINE
Assuming someone is innocent until proven guilty is not being racist, it’s being American. Deciding that he’s guilty without knowing all the facts (as you seem to be doing) is wrong and could well be racially motivated.
The sad truth is that it’s people like Al Sharpton and the black panthers that are behaving in a bigoted way here. It’s unwise to make any conclusions about guilt or innocence without knowing all the facts and yet Sharpton and others have already declared Zimmerman to be a racist guilty of murder. And the MSM isn’t calling them out on it….
Report Post »goldmind
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:29amZimmerman, had the opportunity to hold this kid at bay (with a big gun) until police arrived. If I had to call it, I’d say he was on a mission to kill. Preferably, a black man. That aside, the black community has once again demonstrated the rules don’t apply to them. This was made very clear, after the OJ Simpson verdict, the LA riots, and dozens of incidents in which they blatantly ignore gang wars, killings and invasions upon innocent citizens. Where are the mouthpieces Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan and others, when a mob of teens swooped on a Walgreens in Miami? While we focus on these isolated incidents, there is a proliferation of gangsters from every ethnic group on the planet infiltrating our communities, and there is NO coverage of the havoc they are visiting on our way of life. No protests, no outrage and no results. These vermin, have all but taken control of our prisons as well. The police are virtually under siege in all major cities. We need a nationwide neighborhood watch, a stern immigration policy, a death penalty policy based on absolute and irrefutable evidence (with no appeals for the most egregious offenders), and individuals dedicated to genuine justice vs the convoluted trash in place now. Moreover, we need weapons of comparable devastation, the will to use them when engaged and the wisdom to know our enemies. If not, it‘s a given we will become a police state or Mexico’s new frontier.
Report Post »robert
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:36am“This video is just another media tool to fan the flames of racial hate in the name of ratings”
Yes, and besides that….which is the main reason…..is that this fits leftist causes to try to twist this into a white on helpless black confrontation.
CNN didn’t say so, but the EMT’s had already tended to Zimmerman. Of course, they would have cleaned him up.
Are THREE witnesses who saw the black perp pummeling Zimmerman lying? The black hate-mongers and racists will latch on to anything to try to justify their rabid hatred.
The police have said the victim was bleeding and “probably” had a broken nose. Neither would be visible in an unclear video after cleaning off the blood.
If we believe these black racists, everybody was in a cover-up: The police and the three witnesses.
For people who believe the N.O. levees were blown up by whites to kill off the blacks there, and that aids and drugs were introduced into black neighborhoods to do the same, and that history is replete with brilliant black accomplishments, but were ALL covered up by whites, and that O.J. was framed, it isn’t hard to understand that a huge portion of the black population love to hate and will grasp at any flimsy lies in order to support that hate.
And the most serious part of this entire incident is that it is based on pure, unadultered hate. Most blacks understand this was probably self defense, but they love to hate.
There’s no remedy but separation of the races.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:39am@Gtcogic
Excellent comments. I believe you are correct in your observations. I will reflect on them.
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:39amNo I think he has decided to get the facts and evidence before forming a conviction. And if it were you, wouldn’t you want and expect that? Wouldn’t you be outraged if people were calling for your head before you had a fair trial by jury? I think so. So climb back under your liberal rock and sit there until we more intelligent and rational folks sift this out..uhhmmmmmmmm!???
Report Post »robert
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:43amGeorge Zimmerman’s father was interviewed via a video and said that his son told him that he attentin was first drawn to the black perp when he saw him in the rain between dwellings and NOT on the street.
To me this is more evidence to consider with the discovery of a burglar tool in his pack and women’s jewelry.
If it turns out to be true, this perp was casing residences just as I suspected in the beginning.
This is the LaCrosse case and the Jena incident all over again. Blacks are calling for the head of a non-black simply because they hate anyone who isn’t black.
It is impossible to appease blacks. This sort of thing will continue until this society implodes. The only answer is peaceful separation.
If we do not have one, we will have a violent one. These people are just too ignorant to appease and any attempts to do so just makes them worse.
Report Post »patriot72590
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:49amwe r his peers and so far from what i see he’s not guilty lol , u can clearly see a mark on zimmermens head and plus how the police man is looking at the bak of head and wipes something off of his hand cuz he touch zimmermens jacket ,
lawrence o donnel supposedly had the person from the funeral home who took care of trayvons body talk to him, that person said there were no markings showing trayvon had been in a fight , o donnel asked this man if he had seen the entrance n exit wound the man said he only seen an entrance wound so clearly that either the man was lying about no bruising on trayvons knuckles or he wasnt even who he said he was because there would be an exit wound if u shot someone point blank , some variables come in but most handgun calibers do go straight thru, idk how ppl believe the crapp that comes from those news shows ,
keep sucking on the liberal teett little sheep ”bahhhhh rammm u , sheeps be true bahhhhhh rammmm u ”
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:08amBtw, George Zimmerman and his wife have been mentoring black children in the neighborhood.
They also have black relatives in the family, and his friend is black.
George Zimmerman is also a registered Democrat and not a Conservative.
What a terrible racist family! Yes, let’s put a rope on the nearest tree branch and hang him high!
Report Post »Facebook-OWSWatch
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:31amWell said!
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:53amI love it. All you people who are repeating that he has to go through a fair trial, making snide statements about Martin (like those aren’t transparent)…are the same people who are positive that Obama is a Kenya born Muslim because some guy on the radio thinks he is a photoshop and forensics expert. Once again…you people can’t go 30 minutes without displaying total hypocrisy.
Report Post »aragona
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 11:45amGTC – “Trayvon wasn’t presumed to be innocent when he was stalked by Mr. Zimmrman.”
I am open minded. I don’t know what happened. Neither do you. However, I am certain that Trayvon wasn’t being tried in a court of law, and I’m certain Mr. Zimmerman wasn’t a prosecutor trying him. This series of statements about presumed innocence aren’t relevant or logical to this situation.
A young boy lost his life at the hands of Mr. Zimmerman. That is the extent of my knowledge at this point. I won’t speculate about the facts and cause further race baiting and vigilanteism. There’s already enough of that.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:47pmPhotoshop users will love the photograph above, which says it was “enhanced to bring out additional detail.” That’s correct in a sense. “Details” are brought out that don’t actually exist in the screen capture. The photo is over-magnified, over-sharpened and the contrast increased to the point where the cop looks like he has a mohawk. Are the black and white halos around the people real? Does the floor actually have purple and green stripes? This isn’t an enhancement of the photo, it’s degraded to the point where all sorts of artificial things appear that are only artifacts of photoshop treatment.
Also, whenever I have seen or had a bloody nose, you get blood on your shirt. Did the EMTs clean up his shirt and jacket too?
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:49pmIf some of you would read the police reports, they say that he was cleaned up and received medical attention BEFORE he was taken into custody. Also there is at least one witness, (maybe more) that says that the kid was the aggressor, also what was this kid doing in a gated community ? Have you seen some of the kids twitter accounts ? not such an clean cut innocent kid as many of the people portray him to be, I don’t want anyone to get shot, but it is looking more and more like Zimmerman did it in self defense, I don’t know I was not there, and neither were any of these other people calling for Zimmerman to be arrested, (or much worse) We will have to see what the evidence shows
Report Post »kinthenorthwest
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:19pmmore than likely the emts or medics at the scene cleaned him up a bit before the police took him in..
Report Post »Now a days police do not like taking in people all bloodied and battered up it makes them look realy bad, even if the guy is some horrid crimminal with tons of witnesses.
Secret Squirrel
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:26pm.
Does Zimmerman look injured?
Well, yes. Look under his right eye.
That looks like a shiner consistent with a broken nose.
The photo of the back of his head also carries a large mark.
What did you expect? Blood gushing?
Report Post »The cops wouldn’t let him in their cars if it was.
PoliticallyRightUs.Com
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:31pmWe all know you are right KC… I think the best thing to do is to call the D.A. in that area and tell them to not play politics, but to do what is right! However D.A. being an elected position will do anything and ruin anybody’s life to get re-elected. Another Idea would be to contribute to the Lawyers fee‘s for the defense and let’s see if truth prevails???!!!
Report Post »scherzophrenic
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:34pmI was in a horrific car accident that left me unscathed at the time it happened. I even went into work the next day. It was only then that my bruises started to show and I felt the heavy pain of being in that accident. I wasn’t unscathed at all. It’s quite possible to break a nose and not bleed at the time, especially if there is clotting and swelling. Zimmerman got treatment the next day. I’ll bet he really felt his beating then.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:46pm@GOLDMIND
That would be all nice and good but in TN, which I’m assuming would be similar laws in FL, you are not allowed to draw your weapon until you know there’s imminent danger. Until it comes out completely, I believe Zimmerman, who was trying to do the right thing, had his weapon holstered.
I have a carry permit, I am not allowed to even TOUCH my gun unless I plan on pulling it out and shooting it. I can’t even lay my hands on it to persuade someone to back off as that act itself is considered aggravated assault (from what I was told) which is why I believe Zimmerman had his weapon holstered.
The scenario I see in my head is this: He confronted Martin as to why he was lurking around his neighborhood. Typical tough guy act came out, which is not just isolated to blacks, but teenagers these days think they can take on anyone. He probably attacked Zimmerman thinking he could just punk him around. But that that point, if we’re wrestling around on the ground and I have a gun that he can take from me and use it against me, it’s me or him.
Otherwise, why would Martin be stupid enough to attack someone he knows has a gun? He wouldn’t. He‘d pissed his pants because he wasn’t as thug as he believed himself to be. Again, this isn’t an observation against black teenagers but teenagers in general. He tussled with the wrong man that night since he happened to have a gun.
But we’ll find out eventually once this goes to trial
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:55pmThis is Florida also .. where are the MSM stories? .. where is Obama?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html
Report Post »Clive
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:12pmthe only facts in this story, is that a 28 year old armed man man, shot an unarmed 17 year old. it doesn‘t really matter if he’s black or white, or whatever. he followed a kid around, despite the cops telling him not to, and then murdered a kid, so it will be jail for him. Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for resisting arrest with violence and battery on a police officer. He also had a restraining order put on him. He’s ALSO a registered democrat, so I have NO idea why you are defending this dirtball.
Report Post »toto
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:15pmYes, God bless C. L. Bryant for being rational and fair. The facts of this case will come out eventually, but as anti new laws as I am, I wish the media could be prosecuted for criminal disregard for fairness and truth. It SHOULD disgust anyone with a brain, Democrat or Republican.
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:27pmTEA PARTY members the GOP wants to USE YOU.
http://www.infowars.com/tea-party-members-are-you-a-sheep-in-wolfs-clothing-the-gop-hopes-so/
Report Post »cwll
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:36pmI was beaten and my nose was badly broken.After the emergency room cleaned it up, You could barely see it. There is more to this than meets the eye,And people have become judge and jury. Let the law work!.
Report Post »jgary
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:39pm12 years old????? You’re so astute… Put down the beer and look into what you wrote…
Report Post »jgary
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:40pmEMT cleans the blood..
Report Post »Pilgrimsarbour
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:41pm@GTCOGIC: First, I wish to express that I’m terribly sorry for your loss. I would imagine that might impair your objectivity in this and other such cases, though. Regarding Sharpton, I’m still waiting to hear an apology for the Tawana Brawley hoax, and from anyone at all on the left for rushing to judgement over the Duke Lacrosse “rape” case by white men against a black woman. As it turns out, it was all completely fabricated by the deeply disturbed woman, and she gets to skate free while the white guys’ lives are at worse ruined and at best tainted forever. What about the Black Panthers intimidating voters here in Philadelphia? Obama’s DOJ refuses to investigate or prosecute black-on-white voter intimidation, or any other such crimes for that matter. So I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of things, namely, that only white people are afforded presumption of innocence. If anything, the media are constantly on the lookout for stories in which they can crucify the white guy, but almost never report black-on-black crime which is at epidemic levels in our country right now. One would think that the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world would be fervently spending most of their time, energy and vast resources on addressing that particular problem, but we never hear them talk about it because they can’t make money off it.
Report Post »Harry Assenback
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:43pmObama said “If I had a son he would look like Trayvon”…..I wonder if he would let Malia date him..Hmmm…..
Report Post »mils
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:54pmWhy wait for judgment..the liberal media, and the black caucus, and the naacp , and ******** association of america, jackson and sharpton…have already smelled money and media attention commented to this case…they don’t want to know what happened…cause it might mean that they will not be in the media spotlight.
it’s all disgusting. this man will NOT get a trial ..fair trial, any time soon. when, if, it happens it will be a thriee ring black circus.
Blacks in America don’t seem to mind the fact that they are led around by a ring in their noses attached to special interest groups. Guess those “white hispanics” ill get cha every time..like a white black person..
AND don’t ask them puppies any questions…Corrine Brown, D=FL,got really mad at Brooke,CNN,yesterday for asking the name of a murdered white child in her distirct that she claims to have done so much for….Corrine said brooke “set her up with that question”..go figure..
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:33pmClive, you are citing distorted facts – Zimmerman did not know Trayvon was 17 years old or that he was unarmed so they are irrelevant to Zimmerman’s mindset. Second, 911 dispatchers are not typically policemen and the wording was ‘we don’t need you to do that’. Following someone is not a crime – the dispatcher was more than likely concerned about Zimmerman putting himself in danger. You cite Zimmerman’s past but not Trayvon’s – both are relevant. Why did Trayvon’s father not report him missing until the next day if his son was only going out for candy? Trayvon’s mother sent him to his father because of behavioral difficulties at school – he had jewelry and a screwdriver in his backpack along with drug residue in a baggy among other problems at school. It is also not known who approached who – Zimmerman stated he was headed back to his truck then he was approached by Trayvon. Trayvon’s girlfriends first statement appeared to support that but she has since changed her story. If Trayvon was scared like his girlfriend claimed, why didn’t he call 911 – why didn’t she when the phone went dead? These are question the investigation will need to answer. Zimmerman and Trayvon both made mistakes that night – the question is did Zimmerman truly fear for his life when he shot and was that fear reasonable. Him being a democrat has nothing to do with this event, not sure why you think it has any bearing on the case.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:56pmKC..“media loves this Kind of stuff they can use it to get ratings”…You got that right…skimming thru the channels this morning and I don’t know who wants to “hang” zimmerman more, cnn, msnbc, rosanne or spike…I’m thinking all of them. Is there more news today than trying to fry this dude?…guess not
Report Post »Norsegod
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:23pm@ Chet,
Report Post »To some degree, what you are saying is true, but ferensic experts should be going over the body of the victim to see if there are any scratches or scrapes on his hands, or skin or hairs under his nails, etc. This is done to verify if what was said after the “But” is true. You don’t necessarily need to prove what you said was true, but the evidence does…
VoteBushIn12
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:01pm@DSTARR55
Report Post »Zimmerman didn’t know he was unarmed… but he certainly didn’t know he WAS armed. You can’t assume someone is armed and then use lethal force. You must match force with equal force. If you are the first to pull a weapon then you are the one who has escalated it to lethal force. That is what Zimmerman did.
wethecrazypeople
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:37pm@IMAWAKENOW This case is only moving forward because it gained national media attention. The police allowed Zimmerman to walk free, remember? Why do you pretend that this detail, that the police were disgracefully negligent and essentially shrugged off the death of a teenager, isn’t the entire crux of the story? The right wing’s hysterical and profoundly depressing attempts to smear Trayvon Martin have finally exposed you conservative radicals as the revolting, cruel and mindless bigots you are, for all to see.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:42pm@VOTEBUSHIN12
You have no idea what you are talking about. You have no obligation to not use a gun when someone is attacking you. There is no fair escalation policy in self-defense. If you threaten me, punch me in the face and bash my head into the ground, you are guilty of attempted murder and I have every right to blow you away.
Please stop posting ridiculous false statements when you have no idea what you’re talking about.
The error here is thinking you can brutally attack someone and get away with your life – this punk gambled and lost.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:57pmVOTEBUSHIN12, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NEVER, EVER HAD ANY TRAINING IN SELF DEFENSE, OR THE USE OF FIREARMS IN COMBAT, LE or otherwise. And if you even attempt to claim that you have I will call you a damned liar right here and right now. You obviously have no understanding of the laws of ‘action’ and ‘reaction.’ ” You must match force with equal force. If you are the first to pull a weapon then you are the one who has escalated it to lethal force. That is what Zimmerman did.” That is the dumbest thing that I have read here in a long time. What, do you just sit and watch the opening to Gun Smoke daily and think that is the way it is done. Your grasp of armed and likely unarmed combat has to only be Hollywood based. First, if a person feels endangered he should at the very least brandish his weapon or at least draw but keep it out of sight while he determines what may happen next. In law enforcement the weapon comes out first then we question the person. Have done this on way too many suspicious incidents, and from what was found afterwards I wouldn’t be here to type this had I not. The law of action vs reaction basically is that the person who has acted first and has a weapon drawn and at the ready can beat the other person who can only react to the situation. Person one merely aims and pulls the trigger while person 2 must draw, aim, and then can fire. Split seconds count. Dumb@$$, Hollywood makes entertainment, just don’t continue to believe their BS.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:12pmIf your goal is to kill someone, why would you call the police right before you did it?
Report Post »Christhefarmer
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:33pmOh my gosh he isn’t all beat up!!!! Next time I watch a UFC fight and the guy isn’t all “beat up” after the fight I guess I can claim he never got punched. Nope sorry boys and girls one thing I have noticed after watching 100′s of fights is not all people show damage in the same way.
Report Post »smoky853
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:53pmA media tool. Are you suggesting it isn’t true? The video doesn’t lie. At the least it shows Zimmerman’s injuries (if there were any) were greatly exaggerated. That means he and the police lied. Why should I believe anything else he said? I don’t know what media reports you were reading this week but it was demonize Trayvon Martin week in the media until the police video surfaced. Then Zimmerman‘s father gives his version of events when he wasn’t even there. The video shows him to be a liar too. He said Zimmerman was beaten in the face and his head was repeatedly slammed on the ground. The cut that might be on his head in the video wasn’t even bad enough to need a bandage. I guess Trayvon must have grabbed him by the hair and kept slamming his head on the ground. Oh wait. Zimmerman doesn’t have any hair to grab.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:10pm“At the least it shows Zimmerman’s injuries (if there were any) were greatly exaggerated. That means he and the police lied.”
Do you have some special ability that allows you to see detail in low resolution video? Do you have some clairvoyance that allows you to know what he looked like immediately after the incident? Or, are you only seeing what you want to see?
At the least, you can clearly see that his right eye is bruised and there is a gash in the back of his head.
“The cut that might be on his head in the video wasn’t even bad enough to need a bandage.”
Ah, you’re a paramedic as well!
“I guess Trayvon must have grabbed him by the hair and kept slamming his head on the ground.”
No… he was being punched in the face, while on the ground. That would cause the back of his head to hit the pavement.
Report Post »Sagacious
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:27pmI am sick of this story… George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin…two name I would like to never hear again…he was not the only “child” “boy” “man” “person” to be killed that night in this country…I am sure there were thousands of babies aborted that day too…enough is enough…Please Lord let justice be done…I AM SICK OF THIS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION STORY!!!
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:57pmHas anyone else noticed that the Left‘s trumped up war against women and Rush Limbaugh’s comments that the media was giving so much attention, has suddenly disappeared? Did that stop because Obama saw his manufactured outrage and charge that Republicans want to take away women’s birth control was hurting him in the polls? -AND- Are we to believe now that this new outrage over the Treyvon Martin tragedy is really making people of color so angry as it’s being portrayed, or is this another trumped up mess, with President Obama as the head agitator? I believe it is being trumped up by Obama and his cohorts in Hollywood and the media because this is the template that is being set for the charges of racism to start flying when Obama loses his relection bid this November. Is anyone else getting tired of listening to endless conversation about this on FOX and Hannity’s radio program? They are acting like witless pawns, playing right into the Lefts‘ hands by keeping the media’s focus right where they want it to be. Stop airing all this garbage! Let’s stop talking about it until the Judge and Jury have had their say. It’s not doing anything but distracting us from things we should be focusing on.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:35am@ GTCOGIC, I am truly sorry that you lost your son.
Report Post »Let me tell you my own story. My innocent teenaged daughter was lured into a van by a “friend” whom she thought she could trust for a ride home from a party one night. Inside the van were several guys, all black. She was beaten, stripped of her clothes and raped repeatedly by every one of them. Finally, after several hours they dumped her out on the road, naked, and left her for dead. Fortunately she survived. If I shared your logic, I would have to conclude that it is totally ok for me to hate all blacks, as they are all the same evil people, but I don’t. I know that color is only skin deep. Don’t forget that Jesus condemns “he that hateth his brother without cause”. If you really are a pastor I’m sure you know what verse it is.
PS, why do you worship Jesus, if he’s not black?
Charles
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 6:28pmObviously, the media is wrong, a) Mr. Martin was 17, not 12. b) Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic and Jewish. C) Mr. Zimmerman has a long history of helping and teaching underprivileged children of Black origin. While I disagree with the State Attorney releasing Mr. Zimmerman, I still believe that you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by your peers. The way this case is going, there will be nowhere that Mr. ZImmerman can get a fair and equitable trial.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:00pmHe had a large cut on his head, broken nose and scrapes. He was checked by paramedics at the scene and cleaned up. This video is not very clear and changes nothing.
Report Post »FORLORNHOPE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:16amI saw the full video on another site, and right where they cut away from the parking area, zimmerman walks toward the door on the right. You Can See the back of his head and there is a bruise. any one with CNN experience would see it, they cut it out anyways. thanks for not showing the whole thing azzwipes
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:23amHow do you know if what you think you see is a bruise? Why, then, would only the back of his head be bruised after being punched repeatedly in the face?
Report Post »Fearnone
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:39amLumbarSpineless, why would the back of his head be cut by repeatedly being banged on the ground by the 17 y/o child.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:46amWhy is there no bandage on the back of Zimmerman’s head which was allegedly pounded onto the sidewalk repeatedly? Gee…he’s not even dizzy. Doesn’t walk like a man in pain…
Report Post »dogday
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:20am@lumbar spine
You’ve bruised my brain with your nonsense. Innocent until proven guilty, period. Give our justice system a chance to work. Are you a CSI wannabe or what? People that have all of the answers are usually the people that don’t ask the right questions.
Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:41amDOGDAY…Zimmerman has not even been charged with a crime. That is the source of my outrage. When he is charged with the killing of Trayvon Martin then I’ll shut up and let the system work…
Report Post »PC-FIDE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:35amHe is absolutely right CNN for some reason cut at the exact time that it showed blood on the back of his head. They are bought and paid for professional propagandists.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:54amLUMBAR SPINE I could stack the bodies 50ft high from black on black crime in one day. Any outrage?
Report Post »http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide11.pdf
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:14amCNN- Where you go for news not gfit to print. They have been pushing the hell outta this story. It’s worse thant Shirley Sherro- hmmmmmm?
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:50am@Spiney
Report Post »He hasn’t been charged. He was in custody- he was released. I don’t care where you live- if there is probable cause, you WILL be detained until the cops figure it out. Let’s see what charges MUST be brought against him. Why do you hate Peruvians?
RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:53amLUMBAR SPINE, Zimmerman reportedly refused medical treatment at the scene.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:55amMATEYTWO BARREETT, One of the sites I read yesterday Zimmerman was originally arrested at the scene by Police. He was released per order of the DA’s office.
Report Post »dogday
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:13pm@ lumbar spine
Report Post »We don’t charge people in this country with a crime until we know whether or not a crime actually took place. How about the police busting down your door in the middle of the night and hauling you away without knowing whether or not you committed a crime. Is that how you want the system to work? Move to Cuba. Sorry, you are wrong. You are innocent until proven guilty as is Zimmerman. And under Florida law, it hasn’t been shown that Zimmerman committed a crime. Zimmerman might have shot that kid in cold blood, I don’t know, but I don’t want the Black Panthers exacting their own brand of justice. If he’s guilty, have faith that the system will work. Of course, it doesn’t always work. Remember O.J.?
bristoltrucker
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:12pmLumbar, Killing someone in self defense does not get you charged with a crime. What it does get you is another day of life that you wouldn’t have otherwise.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:26am@ LumbarSpine, about your post;
DOGDAY…Zimmerman has not even been charged with a crime. That is the source of my outrage. When he is charged with the killing of Trayvon Martin then I’ll shut up and let the system work…
Since when is it a crime to defend yourself? I thought that was a fundamental right that every human being had, or have you changed the rule of law all by yourself?
Report Post »Carl1 Supports Israel
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:15amAnderson Pooper is a pathetic joke. The lame stream media pushing this trying to get riots in the streets. Just what Obozo wants. LET THE LEGAL SYSTEM DO IT’S JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »13th Generation American
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:25amIs that you Sarah Palin?
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
Report Post »cracker_
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:33amLetting the legal system do its job is protesting to much, but, protesting in congress, tweeting his address, issuing a dead or alive bounty, and actually holding protests isn’t protesting too much ?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:57am13TH Degeneration COMMIE go back to your beloved Huff-N-Puff. I have seen your account there and how you fit right in with all the other LibTurds
Report Post »SoupSammich
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:40pm@13th
Report Post »What crap. Is that you Harry Reid? I think you sucketh a bit too much.
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:32amTotally funny, SoupAndSandwich!
Report Post »edorfox
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:09amRidiculous…that video is utterly useless. What possible purpose could they have of airing this useless video? The man was treated by medics at the scene…why would there be blood on his face. I’d be more interested in seeing his face the next day when/if the bruises would become visible. Come on folks, get a grip. Maybe he IS gulity of manslaughter. Maybe he IS innocent. STOP trying people in the media! That’s why there are Police, laws, and courts. Go home and fix the screen door for your elderly neighbor, volunteer at the soup kitchen, take a history course online, cut the lawn, get a job. Idle hands …there are a million things to better while away your hours.
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:21amEven if he was treated at the scene, where is the proof that he was beaten. So you think the jury is just going to take his word. Where are the pics of his beaten face, bnloody nose, bashed head. Where Where Where.
I wonder how you all sleep at night, knowing well that you are SEARCHING for excuses, instead of thinking with logic. He claims self defense but have only his wrd, and you all are ok with that???
I am in such shock. Putting your personal feelings about black men aside, who expects to kill someone and think that only their word is going to fly that it was self defense.
What if you were some where and somone just did not like you, and shot you, but said you tried to kill them, but had nothing to show for it. Why am I even trying, it is obvious what is going on here.
I exhaust myslef, this is a bunch for Jesus. I give up.
Report Post »Fearnone
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:35amAllegiance, you are a condescending hypocrite. You portray the 17 y/o man “child” as a victim and condemn others because they don’t speculate what happened the same as you do. I beg of you Allegiance, to think with your brain and not with any other part of your body.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:39amFEARNONE…hear are some facts: An innocent, unarmed seventeen year old was shot and killed by an armed guy who was told by the police not to keep following the teenager.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:49amtold by the police
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Actually he was asked by a 911 dispatcher not to follow. Sorry, but dispatchers have no authority
Fearnone
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:55amLumbar, you call facts what I call premature speculations and judgements.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:55am@allegiance Don’t fool yourself. Since the beginning this was being made into a racial hate crime. The MSM is pulling at straws, as their every attempt to spin this story fails. They need to remain “credible”, after all.
Report Post »Fearnone
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:58amAllegiance, I was walking down the street in South St. Louis and a 14-15 y/o black “child” told me to give him my money and tried to reach into my pocket. I moved his hand and kept walking but he came up behind me and punched me in the jaw with brass knucks. I didn’t bleed much either, but I still have no tooth. The way I ran after him you wouldn’t know that I was injured either.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:00amFEARNONE…what I stated are facts. You are in denial.
Report Post »LT-prep
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:14amI was an EMT for a number of years during and after college, and when dealing with felony assault, the police always wanted photos of the victim *before* we treated them and cleaned them up, because it was essential evidence for the trial. Since any such photo is critical evidence, it will not be released until after the jury sees it…but having seen nearly 200 felony assaults, I would bet that when we see the on-scene photos (and probably a statement from the medic who treated Zimmerman) we will learn that he was bloodied and bruised when they arrived. It will be a solid case of justified homicide, and all charges will be dismissed.
On the other hand, if the on-scene evidence does not support his statements, then the affirmative defense will be very difficult to establish, and Mr. Z will probably end up being convicted of something, or being offered a plea to “a lesser included offense”.
Either way, the social outrage which the inappropriate release of information has stirred will not soon go away, regardless of the outcome of the case – if he is exonerated, the black radicals will riot. If he is convicted, then you should probably anticipate some “bubba effect” down the road…
The Moronic Speculative Media has certainly created a Loose-Loose proposition for our country out of this unfortunate occurrence… but not one of them has yet opined what the *real reason* is that we, as a nation, are tearing ourselves apart. I guess they’re so smart, they alread
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:29amLet’s see here, red shirt good for concealing blood in low quality footage. Contusions and bruises can take hours to show up after an injury. Standard procedure would be to clean up blood to reduce risk of infection.
Much ado about nothing, most definitely. Listening to armchair investigators and news reporters pontificate on matters they can not understand, utterly hilarious.
Million dollar question, who released police station security footage to CNN?
Report Post »ViewPointtt
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:54am“What possible purpose could they have of airing this useless video?”
If it is true that the very part that shows Zimmerman’s head wound was purposely edited out… there is the purpose. It would have been very useful had they succeeded at pulling the wool over the sheep’s eyes, but fortunately, there are too many that are too sharp to fall for it and instead exposed their purpose. It is the same purpose for photo shopping Martin’s pic to make him appear lighter, softer… same purpose for releasing out-dated Martin pic to make him appear, small, sweet and innocent… same purpose for releasing Zimmerman’s stern-faced mug shot in orange jail-wear to make him appear like a coldhearted criminal… same purpose for MSM manipulation of the 911 audio to mislead the public into believing Zimmerman is a bloodthirsty racist… when in fact, he was simply answering 911 dispatcher’s question about the race of the suspicious character that was out for a stroll at 3am, walking in the rain, sipping an ice tea while looking in the windows in a gated community.
That GC had already been the victims of numerous burglars…they watched all the burglars get away with their prized possessions and without any accountability… and so, it is easy to understand how Zimmerman was not completely willing to trust that the police would get there in time and actually do anything about it… so, he kept an eye on him until the police could get there… this is not stalking… this is
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:18amALLEGIANCE
Report Post »Did you miss the little innocent until proven guilty thing? What actual proof do you have that the guy is guilty? I am sick to death of all you self appointed prosecutors convicting someone of a crime by news that you gathered from a ratings driven media that thought they had a white\black racial incident that they could parlay into ratings. I am outraged by the incident that could have been avoided in several different ways. 1. Zimmerman stops pursuit immediately after calling 911. 2. Trayvon continues along his merry way with his skittles and iced tea and goes immediately into his fathers house. Just a couple there to prove a point. You have as many facts as anyone else, so what makes you think that your opinion or judgement is any better than anyone elses? I am just saying to stop all the prosecutorial chatter until we actually know the TRUE facts of the case. You are also wrong on a couple of points there were witnesses that heard the incident and apparently there was a witness who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. The police have all this information and I am sure are tirelessly working to uncover more, in the meantime why don’t you just let them do their job and quit playing law and order home version?
1chancey1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:35amIt’s very possible to be beat up for 5 minutes and walk away. Have you guys never seen a fight? Boxing, MMA? Pleeeeeease. Besides, speculation without the facts is a waste of time. It serves no purpose but to incite people and in the end may make you look foolish. Can anyone say Duke Lacrosse? All of you Arm Chair Lawyers should go find something more useful to do with your time.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:40am@Alligence
Report Post »I hav noticed your posts over several days. Anyone can see that you are openminded and rational- except for Georege Zimmerman, who for some reason falls into a separate catagory for you. This guy needs to be waterboarded, emasculated, hung, then drawn and quartered. If that, indeed is your idea of justice- there are plentyof websites you can go to that will more than adequately serve your needs.
Oh, BTW, I’ll save you the trouble of replying I AM A RACIST, feel better?
Big_Mike
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:31amAllegiance—-I suppose you’re discounting the two eyewitnesses?
You are ridiculous in your blindness.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:36am@ EDOR, you know what? I think yours is a really great post. I wish we could rewind this event and take it all back, and I’m sure most do, including Treyvon and George. Some, however seem to be glad for every sad event that they can use for selfish gain of money, fame or to increase control over others.
Report Post »Watch, now some grandstanding politician will try and dream up some type of “Treyvon’s law” type of gun restriction.
Killpanthers
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:15pmALLEGIANCE: likes her some panthers she does! And you got a big mouth! your crazier than a 3 dollar bill! the boy walked into the bullet! I was there!
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:06am..and in other news, 2 East Orange NJ brothers are charged with shooting a Newark NJ teen. To quote police…’They were driving with the victim when they forced him from the car then proceeded to shoot him multiple times in the arms, legs and hands, leaving him to bleed and scream for help in the street. A good samaritan who was passing by stopped to help until ambulances arrived on the scene.’..Where is the outrage from the Black community??…oh, thats right, it happens EVERYDAY in this Country. Black on Black crime..‘Keepin’ it real since Emancipation.’
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:15amMark,
Report Post »Try to post what you know. In the first place, the reason for the outrage, is because NOTHING was being done about this murder and they KNEW who the shooter was. The child was in the morgue for THREE WHOLE DAYS without being identyfied, even though they had his cel phone. They did not contact witnesses until AFTER the outrage. You want to compare crimes, then make sure you be fair. I am sure that if police were not trying to find the shooters there would be outrage. ANd the family contacted the leaders, not the other way around.
Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:25amALLEGIANCE…my guess is that the authorities were awaiting further instructions from George Zimmerman’s father, the retired judge.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:26amI know because it happened about 5 miles from me. Check NJ.com. Now, when the cops did try and locate the brothers, they tossed multiple weapons out the windows of their dwelling before the cops could apprehend them. Which the police did eventually do. You have the internet, educate yourself. The cops in Fla knew who Zimmerman was, gathered facts from witness’ and acted upon that. My point is the so called ‘outrage’ in the Zimmerman case is fake/politcially motivated and is liable to get people killed. There is no outrage at all in the black community when they slaughter their neighbors and relatives DAILY.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:30am@Lumbar Spine..you really think cops ‘wait for’ retired judges’ advice on current cases? Too much TV for you. Come on, you can’t be serious.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:31am@ALLEGIANCE Don’t kid yourself. That’s the case ONLY if you have been listening to the MSM for the past three days, or if you only listen to the MSM. Since the beginning of this story the MSM tried to portray it as a racial hate crime. They then attempted other spins on the story. Their every attempt to spin this story failed. They are pulling at straws here. They’re trying to remain credible in the public eyes (LOL), while dismissing all their previous false and premature assumptions.
The body was in the morgue for three days because his parents didn’t come looking for him until three days later. The police report says that they interviewed ALL witnesses present and available. These other “witnesses” you mention are a fabrication, as they weren’t there when it when down. The police handcuffed Zimmerman, took his gun away, took him to the station, interviewed him, took all witness accounts, gathered any evidence available, and were able to corroborate Zimmerman’s story with the evidence and accounts present. They had no evidence or probable cause to arrest him.
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:32amAllegiance, doesn’t that say more about his parents, although I heard it was the next day his father reported him missing and was told about the shooting – this is part of the problem – stories are being thrown out, some false, some misleading – anyone who thinks they know what happened is a fool. Where did his parents think he was if he was just going out for some skittles and ice tea. Why did it take until the next day (or three according to you) before someone went to the police? His girlfriend’s changing testimony bothers me as well – if the phone went dead after hearing a creepy guy was following Trayvon and accosted him – where is her 911 call to the police? I never heard she made one.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:35amI assure you the outrage is not fake when an innocent, unarmed seventeen year old kid is shot and killed by some supercop wannabe with a gun who then walks away even though the police want to charge him.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:37amNot the cops, MARK…the state prosecutor who told the cops to release Zimmerman. The cops wanted to charge Zimmerman because they thought he was lying. Maybe you should read a little more before posting…
Report Post »booger71
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:52amALLEGIANCE
Report Post »Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:15am
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It has already been reported his mother and step dad left his body in the morgue 24 extra hours in the morgue for some unknown reason. Who you getting your so-called facts from?
booger71
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:57amThe cops wanted to charge Zimmerman because they thought he was lying.
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First the police can not “charge” anyone with a crime, that has to be done by the DA. Next, if you happen to read the statement by the Acting Chief of Police of Sanford might (big if here) be able to comprehend that he said there was not enough evidence to hold him for a crime.
Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:59amBOOGER…the funeral home retrieves the body from the morgue, not the parents, You can’t dictate when they pick up the body…but it is only after you make the funeral arrangements.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:09amBOOGER…you’re a little behind on the news, buddy. The detective in charge (I think his name is Serio) wanted to arrest Zimmerman that night because he did not believe Zimmerman. For some reason, the state prosecutor had already gotten involved (which is said to be unusual) and he instructed the police that night to release Zimmerman. Serio believed it was wrong and signed an affidavit. The police chief (Lee?) erroneously stated that the police released Zimmerman because they determined there was insufficient evidence…specifically failing to mention it was the state prosecutor who had ordered Zimmerman released. The prosecutor has now recused himself and the police chief stepped down.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:39amWhy are you so invested in this case Lumbar? I’ve never seen you on here commenting on other criminal cases and they are on here every day. Why do you feel so ‘deeply’ about this case and no others? You haven‘t tied Trayvon’s death to some political aganda that you hold dear…have you?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:24amGONZO, LUMBARSPINELESS is relentless in this CASE because it is liberal chic to always blame the none black person with any crime. I disagree with him as much as I disagree with anybody here who just up and says that Zimmerman is the criminal. These people, and Spineless in particular have chosen a side and will stick with it before any investigation is complete. He does make one good point about possible political intervention due to his father’s former position in the judiciary. That is something that should be looked into as well.
Report Post »Frankly, in my opinion, two dumb@$$es had an unfortunate meeting. I think that the actions of both brought this to it’s ultimate head. But, I will wait for the results of the investigation.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:32amDuh! Was interrupted and left out that I disagree with all who pile on and singularly blame Martin for this incident. As I have said before, we really need to wait for the results to come out.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:05pm@ALLEGIANCE
You are an idiot. First you ask for a victim to produce photos of themselves (beaten) so they can avoid being charged with murder for trying to defend themselves. Now you are outraged because there was a murder?
What murder? The cops decided that there was no evidence to suspect a murder. How is it that you can watch TV, have no access to facts and override the decision of the professionals, on the scene, that are there to protect the citizens?
You are a typical brainless liberal.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:03amUgh. This is becoming boring. Okay, kiddies, how many of you are in the health care field? How many of you are licensed physicians? How many of you specialize in orthopedics? Better yet, how many of you would trust a doctor who examined you via < two minutes of CCTV footage?
Report Post »This does not appear to be a silver bullet to me. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just watching the show.
Liberal_Teacher
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:56amAmen.
Report Post »sealwifenyc
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:04amI am a Neurologist, and I will say if he had any type of head trauma, he would have been taken to the ER. Based on him being handcuffed, he was in custody and would not have had the option to refuse treatment. Even in the case of slight head injuries while in police custody, a Physician has to clear it. It is protocol. Otherwise its a lawsuit waiting to happen. I am not making a statement on the case in anyway, but from someone who worked 1000s of night neuro ER rotations (those damn student loans!) I can say he most likely suffered no injuries.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:42amZimmerman allegedly went to see a medical professional the following day. Granted, this comment came from a lawyer, so it’s suspect. Any records of a visit either exist or they don’t. I know if I was part of Team Zimmerman, I’d be trumpeting any such information on high. Any reputable defense team should have anticipated a challenge that could be countered with notation on Zimmerman’s alleged visit.
Report Post »Police reports also tend to have sections that prompt law enforcement to note injuries. That tends to help when liability claims are made against them. “Hey, that guy’s head was like that when we arrived… not our doing.” Anyone have access to a report? This is honestly the first night I‘ve paid much attention to his matter beyond Geraldo’s lame attempt at “Hoody-gate.”
Doc, you‘d know better than me about your state’s protocol. I wish my wife was home. She works in an ER as an RN. She deals with folks in the custody of law enforcment quite often. The wife could share her experiences on such patients.
Hopefully, this matter will be resolved with as much fact and consideration as possible and as would be assumed under the law.
I’d be very careful on anyone wishing a quick and violent “answer” to Zimmerman’s case Karma can be an ugly cur waiting to snap at you in same manner you wished ill upon another.
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:07am@Sealwife
Report Post »Your contention that any trauma to the head would have resulted in a trip to the ER is based on Obamacare rationale. Not all people have instant access to medical facilities, In a case like this, I would assume that if the detainee was alert and the visible injury not great, Clean ‘im up! give him a couple aspirin and call it a night! .
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:23amGooch, I’m in the healthcare field, but not as a doctor. I’m a nurse though, and I will say this after seeing many, many people over and over with the same type of traumatic injuries, as well as illnesses all I can say for sure is that no two bodies will react the same way to the same type of TI (traumatic injury). There is absolutely NO WAY to tell one way or the other just by watching this video what are the extent of the guy’s injuries.
Report Post »On another note, I have read accounts of experiments, as well as respected opinions by people who know a lot about the subject (like attorneys and policemen) that if you have 5 or 10 different eyewitnesses to an event you will get 5 or 10 different accounts of it. No one is infallible, especially when you are in the middle of being attacked.
I haven’t made an opinion either way, but I do resent that someone would try and manipulate the public into convicting either party before it’s even gone to trial.
While I do feel very sorry for the Martin family, I don’t think rushing to judgement on this matter serves justice at all, and if we’re not careful we will be in the middle of a full on race war. Trust me people, it will get VERY ugly and scary! Do we really want to take this nation back several generations? Are we people, or animals?
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:33am@ SEALWIFE, I’m not calling you a liar, but as a meek and lowly nurse I can tell you that one of the first things we are taught about in nursing college is the Patient’s Bill Of Rights, and one of the things it states is that a patient has the right to refuse any treatment they don’t want. Now if Mr Zimmerman had been knocked unconcious, I could certainly see your point, as he would have been unable to refuse treatment at that point, and EMTs, as well as the police would have been derelict in their duties not to have taken him there. Otherwise if he were alert and able to refuse treatment there is no such law as to say he should be compelled to go against his rule. You as a doctor, ought to know that.
Report Post »BDL1980
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:03amIm sorry is Anderson blind, I can see what looks like a white strip on his nose.
Hes a tan skinned person. its not hard to spot even on that camera.
Report Post »bristoltrucker
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:42amIf he was treated on the scene by paramedics there will a report about it and what they saw and did. That is why releasing this video is of no consequence. The quality is so poor that anyone can say that they see things or they don’t. I saw what you did on his nose, but with the quality it is hard to say for certain it is a bandage or is it an artifact on the digital recording. One thing I can say is that if there was no physical evidence of an altercation they would have totally dismissed his claim of self defense.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:01am.
Report Post »So will it be a Hate Crime when a Black Panther or some crazed Black African kills this man?…..
moonbat666
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:53amIF that were to happen of course. Is that what you are hoping for?
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:44amOh really, MOONBAT? We’re still waiting for the “hate crime” charges against those two little black hoodlums who set that white kid on fire.
Report Post »Also, what about those blacks who attacked all of those white people at that fair this past summer. I heard that Eric Holder refused to prosecute, so as far as I can tell the record for whites getting any justice at the hands of the law isn’t exactly stellar.
OhSnappage
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:01amExcellent work Andy Cooper, terrific …speculation?
You said in the beginning that Zimmerman was treated at the scene by EMT’s. Why not get the EMT report, rather than use “Coooper Vision” dto interpret a direct observation of a poorly lit, visual portion, of a clip on a security camera.
This will only further incite anger on baseless facts. “See he looks fine”
Surprised Cooper didn’t decide to put words in the officers mouths on what they “probably” were thinking also.
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:11amIf he was treated by EMT at the scene, where are the bandages. And if you all remember, Zimmerman says that he was on the ground being pummeled. If he was punched in the nose and there was blood, what do you think happened. Do you think the blood said, wait wait wait, let me not splash on this poor man’s shirt because he is going through enough.
Also, how come no one said his blood was on Trayvon’s person. Nothing will satisfy you all, because you know you WANT him to be innocent, even if he is a cold blooded killer. I have read all of your posts in all of these threads and although none of you were there, you have not given this young boy anything but attacks. And both media have crucified the other side, yet you all are siding with the killer. Even after this video dispels his claims. Even when the phone records from Trayvon to his friend dispels his claims. Even when the 13 year old witness says he saw ONE person on the ground screaming. Why would Zimmerman be on the ground screaming if no one was hitting him. But I can see a Trayvon on the ground screaming because someone was pointing a gun at him.
Please I beg you all think with your heart, not hate. And think of this as if they were both white, maybe that will help you.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:27amI think Jesus healed Zimmerman on the way to the police station…
Report Post »OhSnappage
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:37amThat’s truly an amazing talent you have there. Now you know what I want and what I’m thinking? You know for a fact that I want Zimmerman to get off? That I can’t seem to percieve beyond the racial facts of the case? You ask me to think with my heart and not hate?
Ma’am with all due respect, how is it you can see into my perceptions so clearly yet you have no idea who your preaching to or about. Truly amazing. You are not percieving any the facts on this case and are quick to rule on your emotions. Everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty. Do not opt to dismiss the facts for pure gratification. I know the facts involved, if you did also you would not be making baseless claims.
Report Post »JoeinKansas
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:05am@Allegiance guilty until proven innocent right?
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:19amAllegiance – first neither of them was white – by your standards we do not have the first black president as he is only half black – Zimmerman I suppose is white because he shot a black youth – the fact is he is half Hispanic. White is the MSM way of stoking the fires (and you fell for it). You say think with your heart not with hate – the hate is on your side. It is the mob yelling for justice that only means a conviction – to not let the facts come out in the investigation but to have him imprisoned based on evidence that might not even be material or factual. It is your side that has a bounty on Zimmerman’s head, calling for him to be brought to justice dead or alive. It is your side that forced a couple to flee their home when their address was wrongly tweeted. It is your side that ran amok in a Walgreen’s, looting I suppose in support of Trayvon.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:14amYeah, I gotta admit that this video is poking some serious holes in Zimmerman’s story.
I had been armchair-litigating this case on a purely intellectual level, and this revelation has turned everything upside down… and that’s just me. Now imagine how the passionate and angry mobs are going to interpret this.
I wish everyone would keep an open mind about this. Zimmerman COULD be guilty, you know. everyone who is rushing to say he is innocent is just as misguided as those who rush to say he is guilty.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:57am@ Allegiance this post of yours has got to be the worst one yet.
Report Post »First of all, the guy had a red shirt on, and with the poor quality of the video, what makes you so sure he didn’t have blood on it?
Second, maybe you haven’t heard the news yet, but the girl that he was on the phone with has already changed her story at least once.
Third, it wasn’t Treyvon on the ground, it was Zimmerman, with Treyvon on top hitting him in the face and head repeatedly, how do you think Zimmerman got that wound on the back of his head? Duh.
Finally, your little bit of advice to “think with your heart” is just dumb. Not only that, it’s dangerous. I don’t know about you, but if I ever get killed and I have a detective investigating the case I would not want them to “think with their heart”, I’d want them to think with their BRAIN, that‘s what it’s for.
By the way, your little platitude to “think as if they were both white” shows how stupid and out of touch you really are.
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:05am@ SDARBRO, most people are not proclaiming their belief that Zimmerman is innocent. Most posters on here are just saying that there is enough evidence to rule out a rush to judgement, and a need for further examination of the facts.
Report Post »joeyps
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:59pmWell that video was only slightly clearer than mud. You can’t barely discern any facial features with this vid much less any damage. This is such a joke of a video, it proves nothing either way.
Report Post »fierro77
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56pmabc news tries to report on something they don’t know. but that doesn’t stop them from making it up to see what they want to see. after all real reporting requires getting of their asss and doing something
Report Post »maxarma1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:02amagreed Coop is an idiot for giving play by play on a tape that I’m sure a high school film class could recreate to look like an origional….
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56pm.
Report Post »Rev. Al was right. He looks like a Racist from what I can see in the Video……….
The Gooch
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:26amI salute you, sir. Subtle and smart. Kudos.
Report Post »moonbat666
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:58amHaha you are really the smart one…
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:34am@Moonbat – Disproportionate coverage by Prez and his media lackey’s to incite racial division. Black shoots and kills unarmed 17 year old black kid and no coverage. Black shoots and kills white unarmed 17 year old and no coverage. And both have occurred at one time or another in recent past somewhere in USA without a doubt but we hear nothing. Hey Prez and Press, let’s start some rioting…..that is what this is about and you my friend are naive and gullible and I suspect content to be so.
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:54pmlol… Quick!! Go back and try to delete your racist comments!!!
Oh and try to take back the “I love Perry”.. “I love Bachmann”… “ Oh I love Newt”
You guys are seriously nuts..
OBAMA WINS!
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:03amWe’ll see about Obama winning; and if he does, America loses big time. I don‘t think we’re gonna let that happen.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:12amPlease, just don’t shed more blood in self-defense.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:32amThe guy who starts ranting about people being racist out of nowhere and then starts letting his sewage pipes flow on GOP presidential candidates is calling me nuts?
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And Liberals wonder why I think they are all just one bad joke that never reaches a punchline.
tifosa
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:23amExactly. Anybody who’s read theblaze for any length of time know that the LAST THING that ever occurs is “innocent until proven guilty.”
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:11amWhat does Obama win, the commie of the century award? I agree, he wins it hands down. Let’s give him a trophy on his way out the door! Maybe his buddy Vlad will give him a cushy job in Russia, where undoubtedly he’d be much happier than he is here in this country that he keeps apologizing for.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:53pmthat is one pi– poor tape
Report Post »if you can say one way or the other
you got superman eyes
ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:51pmI’ll be willing to bet most of you will still give this murderer excuses. This man obviously lied on this teen. There is no way in the world, you can be beat the way he stated, having his head slammed repeatedly on the ground, punched so hard that his nose broke and bled, head busted in the back, yet have absolutely no traces of any of it. No blood on his shirt, mind you he has a light colored shirt on. No limping or walking as if you were just beaten down. And there was no sign of anything on the back of his head. If he were bleeding from the back of his head, you would have seen some type of stain (wet) on the back of his jacket.
Rememer, this guy said he thought he was going to be killed, so that would have meant that he was beaten really badly. And as far as the cop whiping his hand, he definitely would not have whiped BLOOD on his clothes. And if he had blood on his clothes, it would not still be wet, blood dries up, it does not stay wet. There was no blood from this man. If those clothes or the jacket had any blood, it was Trayvon’s. But I will wait to see what you all have to say about this new VERY VITAL evidence.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:55pmJust the facts mam.
Report Post »stillfreeinidaho
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:58pmFYI, had my nose broken three times. No blood but hurts like hell. Lets wait for all the facts before naming murders.,
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:00amI see you are declaring a man guilty, with no facts or evidence to back it up. How are you any different from Al Sharpton?
A broken nose is not going to be seen in a fuzzy video. And, yes, you can get beat up pretty good without shooting blood like Old Faithful. In fact you can die from blunt trauma to the head (such as her head being repeatedly slammed into the sidewalk) without a drop of blood shed.
Report Post »maxarma1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:08amlets hear an see what you look like the next time you are involved in a shooting…. Oh wait a minute I’m sure you would never be part of your neighborhood watch program… Funny how adrenaline can make you apear unharmed or even shut down bleeding or even better let you walk normal after being beaten cause you‘re so pumped up you don’t feel it until the next day just like in a car crash…. Quit running your mouth unless you have all the facts!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:11amYou should change your user name to Presumption.
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:19am@ALLEGIANCE You’re an idiot…. I was in a motorcycle accident, broke 5 ribs, shoulder blade and clavicle and a broken nose and not an ounce of blood.
Report Post »JoeinKansas
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:54amFirst off people are innocent until proven guilty….You‘ve called this man a murderer several times like you think you know all the facts and everybody else couldn’t possibly be as smart as you are. The fact is no evidence or fact has been released by the either the police, or EMT. Try actually looking for facts from something other than MSNBC and CNN which wouldn’t neither would know a fact if it hit them in the face. You have commented on several articles now calling people “God fearing Christians and even called people idiots. As well as always referring to Mr Zimmerman as a murderer which you don’t have any evidence or privilage to evidence to prove his is. People like that convict people before proven guilty always have an agenda other then the truth, it’s obvious now what your agenda is, which certainly is the truth or facts.
Report Post »moonbat666
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:04amLets not forget, this man was CHASING Trayvon with a gun. How in the world would he be the one on the ground being beaten if he had the gun. It just does not make sense.
Report Post »dugbru
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:07amWHY DO YOU HATE hISPANICS??? JUST WONDERING….
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:56amMOONBAT666, First of all, what would you expect a neighborhood watch person to do, not follow a suspicious person? You’ve also jumped to two conclusions, that he was “chasing” as opposed to following, and that he did this with his weapon “drawn.” Can you offer any proof other than the wild@$$ claims that you have made here. Just read all of your recent posts by tagging your name. You are simply a provocateur here because you want to be, or you are another one of those liberals who think it is chic to blame the none black in all crimes. Simply put, a trouble maker who should be ignored.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:00pmALLIGENCE:
Report Post »What are the odds that you were on the O.J. jury, that you will also be on a future jury in this case if it happens? You should buy a lottery ticket. Your on a roll.
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:16am@ Allegiance, your doctor is calling… seems the psych ward is missing you. Go along with those nice guys in the white coats… no, really, you will feel much better after you have your meds.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:51pmHere we go again. Shame on the Blaze with your ridiculous headline, trying to control the narrative. How is the Blaze any different from MSNBC in that regard?
How is a fuzzy video gonna show a broken nose? And, yes, the officer does keep looking at the back of Zimmerman’s head, as if he had a wound or gash of some kind. TWO witnesses say that saw Martin on top of Zimmerman.
The Blaze is no different from the fringe media when it comes to this story. But, why should we be surprised? The big boss, Beck, says he “thinks Zimmerman is probably guilty”. What!?!?
The media, the Blaze included, is declaring a man guilty without facts, evidence or a trial. Shameful.
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56pmThe video is not fuzzy. I saw it on ABC, it is clear as day. Stop hoping for a evil to prevail. This is a shame and I am really not understanding why people like you want to make this man walk, when he is a racist murderer. He is gong to jail, no matter how hard you pray to WHOEVER.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:57pmThats some GOOD STUFF
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:05amI dont want anyone to walk
Report Post »we want just the FACTS
If you have some Put up or shut up Some people stirrtheshit
and say I know something you dont know
Dont know $#!T #ELL your just another Charlie Manson
ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:28amRandy,
You are an even bigger idiot, THE POLICE said there was blood moron. I am sorry that you want this man to walk, because you are a racist. I cannot stand thugs/most liberals and Obama. But I am a child of God and nothing will make me hate someone to the point where I will hope and pray that an obvious racist killer goes free.
booger71
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:00amALLEGIANCE
Report Post »Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:28am
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I pray you NEVER serve on a grand jury.
girlnurse
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:53am@ALLEGIANCE: You said: “But I am a child of God and nothing will make me hate someone to the point where I will hope and pray that an obvious racist killer goes free”.
You really give yourself away on so many levels. I am a Christian too and I want to ask you a few questions:
1. Why do you liberals see a racist behind every corner? Why can’t we just say, we want justice to be served. Why must you assume that a latino man with many black friends and neighbors is a racist? And you say we are all “hoping and praying that an obvious racist killer goes free”…Please STOP assuming you know whats in our minds…that is exactly what gets you liberals in trouble in the first place. You are making many assumptions there lady. How can you know what was in Georges mind that night? How do you know what any person is thinking? You don’t. ANY violent crime is a hate crime and doesn’t need to be labeled as such. What about a black person killing a white person? Would that be hate too? Why not? You don’t think blacks are capable of hating whites?
2. Why do you assume everybody has to “hate” someone? And why do you say Zimmerman is an “Obvious racist killer”? WHY? WHY do you assume that, when all his friends and activities say otherwise? There isn’t a person on this board who wants a proven outright murderer to go free! I would venture to say NOBODY on here. So please take your “obvious racist hate elsewhere” and stop playing games.
Report Post »SistaTriscuit
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:28amAllegiance – the ONLY reason this has anything to do with race is because that is what the mainstream media & racebaiter narrative is all about. Should you not be more disturbed to know that had Trayvon been killed by another black man it wouldn’t have made it beyond local news? What should this tell any rational, thinking person? THAT ALL THESE BASTARDS CARE ABOUT IS TURNING THIS INTO A RACE ISSUE. Where were you, Allegiance, when a 13 year old white boy was set on fire on his own front porch by a group of black boys shouting “You gonna get what you deserve, WHITE BOY!”? It never made news beyond local affiliates. Guess Al & Jesse weren’t available for comment on that one either? Are they ever available for comment when crime is black-on-white or black-on-black? Nope. One would think they’d be concerned about the little 6 year old girl shot dead on her own front porch by black gang bangers…. or be concerned with the rampant black-on-black crime in so many black communities. Naw. They just like to whip out the race card & tell everyone that the white devil is trying kill all the blacks. The fact that the number of young black men killed every day by other young black men is exponentially higher than those killed by white (or “white hispanic”) men is an inconvenient truth that doesn’t fit into their racebaiting narrative.
Everyone should be outraged by these facts. What the NBPP & BLM are doing is no different than lynch mobs from our past.
Report Post »avgconservative
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:50pmThey won’t let up until this man is lynched either physically or metaphorically by the media and the radical left.
http://FlipTheLib.com
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:59pmHELTER SKELTER Apocalyptic Race War
Charles Manson
Report Post »ACTFORCHRIST
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:59pmExactly! What we need to be looking at is the fact that this is being used for something much bigger. I just checked and they have registered everything that has to do with Trayvon such as Trayvon,com – Trayvon Martin.com – justice for Trayvon and much much more. Of course it’s probably just that dear Al Sharpton is looking out for the Martin family. However I am starting to wonder about this sweet little boy since his parents were role models, and they seem to approve of his name being used to instigate the violence that is sure to come. Personally I believe George is innocent, or should be considered so until PROVEN guilty!
Report Post »kegbuna
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:49pmSo it looks like he is going to go away for a bit
Report Post »snyggys
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:48pmHow in the world does The Blaze omit the biggest key in this story which the FACT that Zimmerman was treated by medics at the scene… seems kind of important… don’t ya think!
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:55pmBlaze doesn’t care about the truth. Remember Beck said “I think Zimmerman is probably guilty.”
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56pmDo you see black eyes? A bandage on his head? Blood on his tucked in shirt?
Report Post »Idiot.
CatB
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56pmI agree .. .that is where the truth is .. what was he treated for? A broken nose .. once the bleeding has stopped can show no real damage ib the outside unless you know what it looked like in the first place and have a good photo .. it is broken under the skin. Black eyes take a while to come out after the break also. As for his head .. it could or not required stitches … I think we need more than some grainy survailance video.
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:00amNo he was not treated by medics liar. . If he was beat to the point that he thought he was going to die and was treated by medics at the scene, why the hell are there no bandages or anything what so ever. Remember, he said Trayvon was banging his head to the concrete ground. You want this man to go free so bad that you would lie without even thinking about how stupid your lie is.
Rational Man
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:21am@ ALLEGIANCE
Defintely got some white guilt eating you up don’t you, blondie?!
You harp on others about facts and disreguard them yourself…….LOL!
I don’t know all the facts and neither do you! But whatever the truth is, IT AIN’T WORTH STARTING A RACE WAR OVER!!!……(unless your a dumb Democrat)
Report Post »kegbuna
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:49amHow does sending this guy to jail end up in a race war? I just don’t get the leaps in logic people make here. Everything seems to extend to some sort of national catastrophe. It doesn’t help that Beck proposes some new way that the “left” is bringing Armageddon. Gun sales exploded when Obama became president not because of some rational concern, but because of the intense fear spread in places like this one.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:27pmBecause the “truth has no agenda”!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:52pmALLEGIANCE:
Report Post »Obamacare doesn’t include bandages.
MistyBlueAngel
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:36am@ KEGBUNA, if gun sales did in fact “explode” (and I’m not sure I believe that either, btw) but if they did, it’s probably because people knew what kind of trouble we would be in for.
Report Post »We have an ultra-liberal secretary of state who wants us in a small arms treaty with that bullwark of freedom and democracy, the UN, a joke of an attorney general who looks the other way when blacks target whites in violent crimes, and doesn’t deny it, and a POTUS who is caught on microphone telling the Russkies not to worry, he‘ll get busy disarming America wholesale after he’s re-elected, that’s all. Can’t imagine why imagine why that would make people want to arm themselves.
Add to that, Holder has been recorded on video saying people need to be brainwashed against guns.
Furthermore, if there really was a huge increase in people buying guns, how do you know that everyone buying them is white? I didn’t know that gun shops were required to report the races of all gun buyers.
If you want to persuade others to your point of view, try using logic, not assumptions.
@ Allegiance, there you go again, ranting, calling people “liars”. So now, you know for sure there were no medics on the scene? No, what we know is fact vs fiction, is that Zimmerman refused a trip to the hospital, not that he refused treatment by medics at the scene.
It seems like your grasp of the “facts” gets more extensive by the hour, do you have a crystal ball or what?
Echelon
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:47pmWE NEED THE TRUTH. Sounds like a cover-up.
Report Post »Echelon
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:46pmAt this point, I and the public don’t know what to believe. This has turned into a nightmare for everyone and the media has contributed to every twist and turn. It’s unfortunate that no one knows what to believe. I’m going to bed and dream of a happier place.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:46pmRIP Earl Scruggs…I believe that is a little bit more important than this tired old news story..What more can be said? Zimmerman will probably have his day in court, win, race riots ensue as per usual…this is a great diversion from Barrys’ failure… Once again, RIP Earl Scruggs..for those who care anyway.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:31amOH WOW!!
Report Post »I didn’t hear about Earl! Thanks for the heads up! I knew he wasn’t long for this world. He was 88yrs old. I guess Earl and Bill Monroe are back together again,…..in heaven. Probably Jimmy Martin on guitar and lead vocals and Roy Husky on bass………….
I gotta go post to my Scruggs fan page on facebook.
TiocFaidhArLa
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:45pmInconsistent and confusing opinions brought to you by, The Blaze! The point of this is to…..?
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:52pmShows you that you all are tools and suckers.. you believe anything drudge tells you.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:45pmwho does Zim know to get such kid glove treatment? what does his father do?
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:52pmIt’s all a vast conspiracy, isn’t it? I heard Zimmerman knows what happened at Roswell.
Report Post »ALLEGIANCE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:23amHis father is an ex judge
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:15pmWhy do you hate hispanics so much Steely?
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:44pmNO sign of bruises, blood, broken nose, not even a scratch. Where was the signs Zimmerman was being beaten as he claims?
Report Post »snyggys
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:51pmHe was treated by medics at the scene. A FACT conveiniently ignored by the press.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:53pmMy mother was in a car accident .. her nose was broken .. but the bleeding stopped pretty quickly and after being cleaned up … unless you knew what her nose looked like before the accident you would not have known it was broken .. I think we need the EMT report from the scene .. if that is possible with patient confideniality.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:53pmYou can tell whether someone has a broken nose or not by this fuzzy video? What are you Superman?
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:58pmYep, And medics can make black eye go away and get blood stains out of your shirt .. oh and they forgot to put a bandage on his “Wound”.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:02amWell, he does have the whip marks on his back, and the clamp marks on his nipples. He may have been beaten, but maybe not by a 17 year old.
Report Post »joeyps
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:02amI have broke my nose at least 5 times in my life and have never had any bruises/black eyes before the first 12-24 hours. Besides he is Hispanic with a dark complexion so it is harder to see bruises. This poor video does nothing as far as proof.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:26am@joeyps—5 Times? what the He!! happened?
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:47am@simpletruths aka encinom.
Report Post »I can beat you to within an inch of your life,and never show so much as even a scratch,until hours even days after.I would gladly show you how to do this as proof,if you like.
Baikonur
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 2:39pm@drago
Report Post »Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:47am
‘simpletruths aka encinom. I can beat you to within an inch of your life’
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The filthy sadistic fantasies of the baggers. LOL.