Video of NYPD Cop Bodyslamming Young Man Sparks Controversy: Too Harsh or Just Right? (Vote)
- Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:12am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The video of an NYPD officer bodyslamming a young man in the subway has set off quite the debate: Was the officer justified in his actions, or was he over the line?
Here are the facts: The officer, Michael O’Brien, says he caught the man, 19-year-old Sean Pagan, evading a subway fare, and when O’Brien confronted Pagan and subsequently tried to arrest the young man, Pagan resisted. That‘s when the O’Brien used a physical tactic to subdue Pagan. In the video, Pagan can be seen still trying to resist. In fact, he even ripped a subway ad off the wall while trying to hold on. And as is the case nowadays, there were several people around with cameras (content warning for language):
Pagan, not surprisingly, thinks O’Brien went too far.
“I was just in shock he really did that,” Pagan told the New York Daily News. “I‘m sure there are other kids who got the same treatment or worse treatment that wasn’t recorded.”
But not everyone agrees. An editorial in the Daily News praises the cop for his restraint:
He has not used a nightstick, pepper spray or a gun. He has not punched or kicked Pagan. He has not shown the slightest emotion or panic.
What O’Brien has done is what he was trained to do: He has made an arrest by taking control of a person who had tried to run and who then showed resistance, forcing two takedowns and brief bodily restraint.
All by the book, as O’Brien was trained to do.
And according to the Daily News, Pagan’s infractions go beyond just evading a fare. He was charged with theft of services, resisting arrest, criminal mischief, making graffiti and trespassing.
So what do you think? Watch the video again and take the poll:
(H/T: HuffPo)
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Comments (297)
AnAmerican111
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:13amBreak the law- pay the price!
Report Post »Just another PUNK that broke the law!
VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:08amAgreed
Report Post »calisun
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:18amI get harassed by the police and I am a 40 year old mother. The police are good for one thing today and that is taxation. Do you think they got our backs? Look at what happened in Colorado. If a citizen could conceal and carry we wouldn’t need to call the clown police that take several minutes to show up. For now we will pretend like we need them but in the end remember that this is a government and union ran agency. (My entire family is or was in law enforcement – I have deep respect for the uniform, but things have changed over the years.)
Report Post »hayesstephen
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:56amThis Police man reacted correctly. That punk did everything wrong. He should have a taste of pepper spray. Punks are getting out of control, they seem to think they are free to act any way they choose. Yes some cops are out of control, but remember more civilians are out of control. Thank you White Liberal Trash, our once beautiful Republic is on its last legs. When the crash comes White Liberal Trash will be screaming for the cops.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:12amYoutube is full of liberal zombies!
The title alone is:
Report Post »NYPD Transit Cop Assaulting Youth
Glad to know the expertise of these kool-aid drinkers.
drattastic
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:16am@calisun
Report Post »What situation could an attractive (if that pic is you) white female be in where the police harass you ?
turkey13
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:16amIn our littrle town here in S. Oklahoma after the kid refused to comply he would have been tazed or the billy club would have came out. NYPD’s technique could get the officer injured and then a lost time injury or a Workers Disability claim. The reason our police dept changed to tazers was after an officer went on full disability trying to arrest a drunk about 4 years ago. Those folks that thought he went overboard need to be thrown into a jail cell with kids like this and after they get beat up, raped, or injured they would change their minds.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:23amThe officer did a good job. He should have arrested the kid in the oragne shirt for getting in the way of police work.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:29amcalisun
Report Post »I know you do absolutely do nothing to get harassed. They just pick you out of the crowd
I open carry and in all my years I have never been harassed.
By the way look at the Colorado carry laws before making statements, I can carry from out of state. Then look at the theaters policy
muffythetuffy
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:45amTHIS SEARCH AND ARREST WAS APPROVED BY MAYOR BLOOMBERG
The dude just did not like having his ****** groped.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:53amTo all the morons saying the kid did nothing wrong, where is the video to prove that? I would like to see because all I see is them recording after the officer had a reason to arrest him.
Report Post »bdandsl
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:04pmIf only we can make the politicians pay for their illegal activity!
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:05pmmuffythetuffy
Report Post »I heard it was an open salt shaker
TexasHunter
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:36pmThe Kid is another typical teen that thinks he is above the law. Pretty sure we all have had that thought. Now these days we have other teens in your face with phones. If it was me personally being the cop, I would of taken my badge back off the ground with a smart mouth kid face against the wall until I picked it up. The cop warned him two or three times to keep his hands there. Kid didn’t listen. Plain and simple.
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:37pmCarlisun,prostitution is illegal in most of our 57states and just because your family has been arrested in the past,does no really mean they are in law enforcement.Wise up!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:50pmBlaze Poster: “Yay cops!!!! Tazer that bastard!!! Cuff him!!!! Yeah, kick his butt!!!”
Blaze Poster: “Why are drones flying over people’s property?! We should shoot them down! The police state is out of control!”
(Seemingly not able to recognize that the police are running the drones and surveillance.)
Blaze Poster: “How dare they shut down lemonade stands and bake sales!”
(Seemingly unable to realize that the person shutting it down is the cops.)
Blaze Poster: “They should arrest [political official] for crimes against the constitution/people!”
(Seemingly unable to realize that these cops work for [political official] and not you.)
Blaze Poster: “The TSA is out of control and clearly violating our 4th amendment rights!”
(Again, not holding accountable the cop sitting at the podium doing nothing while watching you being groped.)
Blaze Poster: “Union thugs are out of control. Unions are hurting America.”
(Except police unions right?)
Blaze Poster: “Taze that bastard!!”
(Unable to realize that “that bastard” will be them at some point.)
It‘s like the scene in Idiocracy where Frito is cheering when the cops are shooting up his car because it’s just so awesome.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:52pmthey only should body slam if there’s form of resistance, but this is case i agree with you on but with how much New Yorkers pay in taxes they should get free subway use although a pass is reasonably priced if you used the subway even casually.
Report Post »Force2bewreckin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:17pmi dont know how I feel about this. The officer was on his own and that can be a scary thing but he is not the executioner. he is not paid to punish criminals. He should have issued a ticket them left it in the courts hands.
Report Post »Maine932
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:34pmCalisun: It is quite obvious you do not have respect for the Police and your post shows just that. First let me correct Mr. criminal, “I didn’t do nothing wrong!” First, Mr. Criminal you have two strikes from the beginning, your English is terrible, it is, “I didn’t do anything wrong!” Next, the Officer is coming for you for jumping a turnstile…a crime in itself. The when told to let go of the sign you refuses, that is resisting an arrest…Sorry, that is 3 things. Instead of asking for the Officer’s name, you should have directed Mr. Criminal to stop acting like a dick.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:42pmSo cops should issue tickets to thieves now? Last time I checked that’s not how it worked….
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:49pmBunch of JOKERS taking this poll… I cannot believe how may votes side with the punk ass thief and vandal.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:55pmApparently not enough because he kept fighting back
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:56pmROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE = BLAZE poster who doesn’t realize this punk ass kid was BREAKING THE LAW AND WAS RESISTING ARREST. The other crap you posted has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this incident.
I guess we should go kill all of the cops right? YEA! Because they are all bad. Get em!
Get over yourself!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:58pm@Eagle,
Ok, so a cop observes a crime. Somebody steals something and is placed under arrest…in this case subway fare. I agree, they should arrest them on the spot. They don’t need a warrant because they saw the crime.
So how come there isn‘t ONE COP with a set of stones that will march into a public official’s office and arrest them when a crime is committed? For example, the Fed has robbed TRILLIONS from us all and our posterity. They have given taxpayer money (current and future) to crooks and criminals and foreign entities. Banks have stolen billions. Federal regulators have de facto nationalized banks in EXACTLY the same way that the mob used extortion and racketeering on businesses. There is video of new black panthers intimidating at polls and the head of the justice department looks the other way.
NOT ONE OF YOU GUTLESS WONDERS EVEN ATTEMPTS TO ARREST THEM!!!!
Sure, you’ll take down the subway thief (and rightfully so). You’ll take all the accolades for being brave and keeping us safe. You’ll play the tough guy hero cards…not ONE COP has had the courage to arrest any of these thieves and violators of the constitution. NOT ONE!
You want to see people cheer cops? March into any of those people’s offices and arrest them for larceny or civil rights violations. Drag them to the jail and process them. Let the courts and DA’s deal with it. Say, “I saw them commit a crime so I arrested them.” Let the public defend you. But no..pens
Report Post »FstEti
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:12pmI‘m at a loss as to why the officer didn’t order the moron in the orange shirt to step back about ten feet from him as he could have had a real problem had dropped his cell phone and became involved in a two on one situation. If nothing else, had the kid lunged at the cop towards the tracks, orange shirt could have been knocked over on to the third rail. As for the “citizen” taking the video and repeatedly asking the officer for his name, be warned that not everyone speaks Spanish and had the officer felt threatened by you communicating with someone under arrest (for all he knows you’re telling him to drop to the floor so that you can pull out a gun and become more “involved”), you might just find a night stick where you don’t want it. Just out of idle curiosity, how difficult IS it to just comply with what a cop orders you to do, and if you have a problem with it, THEN get his name and badge number, then file a complaint? Call me dumb, but it just seems an easier road to travel than antagonizing someone with multiple weapons at their disposal . Then again, I don’t feel entitled to do whatever the hell I want, anywhere, anytime, with impunity.
Report Post »Lastly, another tip for the moron in orange shirt; buy a pair of jeans that fit.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:14pm@difference,
Breaking the law? Yes. Resisting arrest? Not from what I saw. Just my opinion.
As for going after the cops? When they deserve it, yes. When they shut down lemonade stands and bake sales and make illegal stops or shoot unarmed immigrants 41 times or don‘t arrest other people who break the law or don’t arrest other cops who break the law…then yes. I go after them.
In New York they can stop and frisk you without warrants or probable cause. That is a violation of the constitution no matter what some liberal NY circuit judge says. Cops that do that are violating rights that are endowed to us by God. The “following orders” BS didn‘t work for the nazi’s and it shouldn’t work for cops either. These are the same organizations that are buying and deploying drones. Of course if you have nothing to hide, why should you care right?
That criminal (subway jumper) should be arrested for what he did and stand trial. It is stealing what he did. But I’ll be da$%ed if I‘m going to fall over myself to fawn over cops who are the muscle of the state that is looking to oppress it’s citizenry. For example, in 2014 don’t buy insurance and refuse to pay the penalty/tax upon doing so. See if the boys in blue come for you. They are goons for the state, nothing more. If they were patriots, they’d arrest the criminals in charge.
Report Post »pschlentz
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:45pmTotally agree, just put yourself in his place…
Report Post »clouviere
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:52pmThe kid was complying. At no point in that video was the kid EVER a danger to the cop. He reflexively moved up on to his toes when his privates were groped. The he was slammed. I know it wasn’t an ass whooping or anything, but it was violent non-the-less. The cop went over the line. Nothing was done by the kid that warranted that.
Not even “theft”. So he skipped out on paying for the fare. Big deal. Make him pay and send him on his way…or arrest him til he can arrange to pay the bill…but body slamming him, twice, is brutallity. It is jack booted thug brutatilty. And if you can’t see it now…when they come to your house and make every one submit to this nonsense…and they are going to…don’t cry.
This is the time to stop this ridiculous over reach of power. That cop should be fired, fined, and made to apologise. That kid should pay the fare, pay a fine and go on with his life.
Out
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:07pmEven after this genius gets body slammed, he continues resist the officer.
Officer did a good job!
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:13pmYou know whats funny, cops are the bad guys until you need them . As soon as I stopped doing wrong the cops left me alone. You must be doing something to attract their attention. Why didn’t Obama pay this kids fare, It‘s Obama’s fault, teach a generation that everything is free and this is what happens.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:37pm@ROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE
wow, way way out of left field….
Why I understand your frustration, you have very little understanding of how Law Enforcement Officers, our justice system, and enforcement of laws work.
The only time a cop can on a whim arrest someone is if they witness a crime being committed. They can’t just arrest someone they see on the street because they heard through the grape vine he did something wrong.
Next up… Police can only arrest people for breaking laws. Sounds obvious right? Well your statement is full of ‘illegal’ things being done that dont’ have written laws saying there specifically illegal. Your argument about the FED for example. While I don’t disagree with your premise of their wrong doing, without a warrant for the arrest of Ben Bernanke, a Cop has no power to arrest him or any of the other men at the FED. So don’t bark up the police officers leg…go scream at the District Attorney’s office….
“not ONE COP has had the courage to arrest any of these thieves and violators of the constitution.”
Cops, with the exception of a slight few, are bound by local laws, not Federal laws. The US Constitutions is a Federal premise, and that is why states have their own Constitutions, and cities have their own charters or what have you.
So, to sum it up, the reason Cops do not attempt anything you are asking them to do is because
THEY DON’T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT……!!!!!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:44pm@Eagle,
I think you’re missing my point. I’m not trying to argue with you about penal codes and jurisdictions. You’ll win that argument with me. My point is that you talk about what you have the “authority” to do. I’m arguing that there is a higher authority than NY (for example) city code/ordinance.
I don’t think you get to say “It’s not my job to arrest [public official] because I don’t have authority to do so.”, but then conduct a stop and search or enforce some gun regulation because you are directed to do so and have been given “authority”.
THIS is my point. Under your line of thinking there is no line in the sand. For example, if Obama should issue some executive order stating a kind of gun was now banned and your superiors told you to round mine up, you’d claim that you had the authority to do so. I would argue that you don’t. Hence, cops are the muscle of the state.
We know right and wrong. The constitution is right there. We are watching it erode through incrementalism. The fact is that they (politicians et. al) can’t take away our rights except through the use of force. They will continue to give y’all (assuming your a cop) the “authority” to do so. Y‘all need to figure out if that’s the “authority” you want to live by.
As a Marine you know that you were not bound to follow an unlawful order. IE “shoot the prisoner” You also swore to defend the constitution. You had free will. Cops do too. They need to use
Report Post »MontereyWill
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:59pmI am kind of taken back that the poll on the page is so close.
Rule #1: The Man with the GUN makes the rules!
Rule #2: No matter what…see Rule #1:
If the cop is wrong then you have a criminal/civil court to pursue remedy, but you DO NO RESIST anything from a cop. The best thing you can do is lay down and just let him/her do their thing regardless of whether you think they are right or wrong. Police Officers are always in a quasi fight or flight psychological condition as they have no way of knowing who is or isn’t a threat to their life. Their training however demands that they use the authority of their badge to enforce the law. We can all disagree with an officer’s interpretation of the law all we want, but if you try to resist a detainment, an arrest, or try to run away you will find out real quick what non-lethal force is all about.
The youth in this video clearly has no respect for the officer or his badge as you can see him several times resisting arrest. The officer clearly maintained composure and afforded Mr. Pagan several opportunities to cooperate. Neither Mr. Pagan nor any individual is entitled to endless opportunities to cooperate with law enforcement. He should consider himself lucky that he was not tazered or worse. The officer literally has no way to determine if his life is not at threat when Mr. Pagan behaves the way he did.
Report Post »Mr. H.
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 7:07pmYou have to be an idiot to resist a police officer. The police are going to do their job and if you make it hard on them by resisting they have to use superior force to control the situation.
Report Post »vadale
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:29amThis BlockCop crap is out of hand…They are setting up cops to get a video…However, in this one you can see the guy holds on to the poster frame when the cop tries to bring his arm around for cuffs…There was no roughness from the cop til then….He did just what he is supposed to do…Plus two videos rolling before the incident even begins?????? This was a classic BlockCop set up….MORONS.
Report Post »LUCKY Gene
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:48amWhat the public at large doesn’t realize is that street police work is a contact sport. There will always be twenty percent or more of the general citizenry that will do ANYTHING to avoid going to jail. The use of force, although not pretty, IS legal and expected when being forced to protect yourself or another.
I understand that the unwashed masses don’t get it. They haven‘t walked a mile in a Police officers’ shoes. The people who SHOULD know better, the politicians & news reporters, are eager to enable the cries of the chronically stupid by throwing the officer under the bus. That’s immoral and dangerous.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:43pm@eagle,
You have very little understanding of how the law works. States cannot override the constitution and the police are a permanent standing army which is forbidden by the constitution. There is no such thing as a good cop or a cop that acted legally or restrained themselves. A pig that restrained themselves would quit “the force” and apply for deputy with an ELECTED Sheriff.
We the people are responsible for cleaning house; not union lawyers and “internal affairs”. Exactly what affairs should ever be internal for a supposed PUBLIC servant?
Let’s take this a step closer to home since I noticed your avatar. Do you think that a person that joins the military and takes the oath to defend the constitution should continue to serve in a permanent standing army that violates the constitution? How about a FEDERALIZED national guard?
I realize all the former military here are going to go ape spit because they believe that all military deserve respect and thanks. Well, the uniform does not make the man. You have heroic military and pos military as well as heroic citizens and pos citizens. The title nor the garb make the man but rather the actions make the man(or woman).
The very first action every cop or military person does once they take an oath is: violate the constitution by taking the oath. The ONLY ones that do not? Elected sheriffs and their deputies.
Report Post »TNTrooper
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:18pmThis officer used appropriate force and personal restraint. The course of action was to take down and subdue the alledged criminal with the least opportunity for injury to the suspect, the officer, and surrounding patrons. This was accomplished.
Speaking to those who say they do not like law enforcement, I apologize for my brothers and sisters. However, there are MANY of us who still believe in the United States and the established laws that we swore to uphold. Please do not let a few cast such a wide shadow of doubt upon the masses.
Report Post »Wolf73b
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:48pm@calisun: If you are going to lie about your age, maybe you shouldn’t have a myspace account that gives it as being 27!
http://www.myspace.com/calisun17/stream
Report Post »RSHLUVER
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 2:42amIs it asking to much for the civilians to speak English?
Report Post »AZ Medic
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:07amOK, so what is it the kid was supposed to have done to deserve this take down? I have watched the video over & over, and as a former police officer in one of the top ten largest cities in the US, I just see the kid jump a little. If the cop went into his pockets prior to an arrest, you have a 4th Amendment violation.
Report Post »Take this case, as I do all the ones I see, as if it were your kid. During a pat down looking for weapons, a person may jump or move a little. It does not justify a take down. If the officer was placing him under arrest, and the kid resisted moving his arms to get handcuffed, or obviously tried to run, that would be one thing. As much as I try to stretch this in the cops favor, it appears he over reacted. Great, like many of you have said, he didn’t taser him or worse, but the kid still didn’t appear to deserve this.
I never would have touched to get the kid to put his hands on the wall. Verbal commands should have worked first. Even mace is to be used before physical contact in most cases, as it it non-lethal versus contact which now can led to deadly force (head hitting the ground, the suspect coming into contact with the cops gun thus leading to a shooting from one party).
I give the cop credit that he didn’t go off on the citizens filming the events, like many cops do. Some of my past police academy buddies ad co-workers have slowly drifted into the “them against us” mentality and think anyone not a cop is against them. We are all America
Duchylivin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:19amI was a Field Training Officer for a quarter century. The officer’s technique was ineffective. I don’t know how NYPD is trained but they need some more modern alternatives.
But the officer WAS justified. The youth was refusing commands during lawful arrest. There is no indication that the officer was overreacting. ONLY that the technique is poor.
Seeing that the officer was calm afterward shows that this was a reasoned useof force.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:21amSince we could not hear what was going on and they were far away, I find your so-called past experience no reason to judge this particular situation. Also think that the anti-police actors, like our OWS types, and the baggy pants kid with the cell phone in the cops face, cause that “ them versus us ” attitude you refer to. It isn’t all caused by the cops.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:26amAZ MEDIC:
Report Post »Your no more a cop than Sharpton is a reverand.
barber2
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:28amDUCH: What would have been the “ effective” technique you mention ?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:45amThe only thing that I could hear were the words ” I am NOT resisting!” as he was resisting, and kept resisting. I think it was justified. You do what the police tell you to do, you don’t mouth off, you work it out in court.
Report Post »From what I can see/hear, this guy resisted after being told, repeatedly, not to. the kid put on an act, like these punks do, when they finally have pushed the officer too far.
Disgusted_in_CT
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:14amYou should watch it again.
Report Post »I see clearly that the officer was trying to arrest him.
If you refuse to put your arms behind your back and hold onto a sign
that is called passive resistance and you are allowed to use physical force to take down and cuff a person using this.
That officer did a great job.
Had it been me, I would have used a knee strike in the back of the guys legs to buckle him and then taken him to the prone for handcuffing.
Blazebanned
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:29am@azmedic.
Report Post »Um yea, riiiiight.And “no right to go into the kids pockets without a warrent”,wrong again,you might want to hone your skills as a liar before spewing that crap on here.As for the kid, the takedown should have been harder, the cop needs to learn the proper way to do that.If you or anyone else is going to make a obviously false claim, study the part a little better…..
Duchylivin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:31am@ Barber.
An arm lock. It controls, causes pain if resisted, and in the case of strong resistance can be used as a controled takedown that leave the officer standing.
If the officer is standing he is better able to control and evaluate bystanders. He is also in a better position to handcuff and control the suspect.
The technique used by the officer in the video was taught when I was in the acadamy in 1984. I never saw it taught later. Hence, my concern that updated training is needed.
I am not endorsing any one system but if you look up PPCT Training you will find some good information on use of force.
Report Post »D-Fence
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:50amIt looked like the cop didn’t put himself in a controlling poosition. The kid was standing almost straight up. That makes it easier for the suspect to resist. Maybe the kid didn’t obey the verbal commands. It looks like the cop said something to the kid then the first body slam occured. Maybe he didn’t listen to him and lean forward against the wall. Hard to know with out the audio.
Report Post »ChevalierdeJohnstone
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:01amI don’t think this was at all an overreaction, but simply poor situational tactics. By resorting to physical force he lost control of the overall situation. What would he have done if one of the kid’s friends came up and kicked him in the head while I was down on the ground with the suspect? This is exactly the sort of situation which calls for the use of some sort of non-lethal device, e.g. taser or what have you. By resorting to hands-on physical domination this cop severely risked unnecessarily escalating the situation. If this is how NYPD are trained their training is crap.
Report Post »Also, for all the cops reading this: #1 problem is Where Is His Backup. I used to give cops the benefit of the doubt but given the large number of abuses of police power even I question police actions quite a bit these days. Any time you arrest someone you need to have a credible witness (i.e. another officer) there who can testify that you acted appropriately. This officer should have called for backup and followed the kid until able to arrest him safely. Either that or let it go and accept that you can’t get all the bad guys all the time.
MDECKER
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:40amNice try.
Report Post »marine2.0
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:45amI don’t know when you were a police officer but I do know that it is a good thing that you are not one now. The choice was the 19 year old ADULTS he is not a kid. He could have cooperated and been placed in handcuffs without any additional force necessary but he CHOSE to resist. Bottom line is my force is going to be greater than your resistance because I am not going to give any chance to get hurt or you escape. If I did not say you are a moron well you are. The reason for the take down which is standard procedure is because the perp has a hold of the posters. When pulled of the posters then the officer no longer has effective control as they are both free standing so therefore to properly effect the arrest you take the perp to the ground. As every “real” police officer knows it is rarely a text book takedown. Why? Because the other party is resisting so you have to adjust to the resistance. I will say that the officer should have waited to perform the patdown until he had the perp in handcuffs. If he was effecting an arrest then put him in handcuffs first because people tend to get squirrly after being patted down. You should also know that resistance is resistance regardless if it passive or aggressive there is no distinction in the law. Most injuries to officers when effecting arrests are occurred mostly from what is considered routine arrest that go “south” and the fight is on. You should know moron that MACE has been illegal and out of use since 1991. Stay a medic
Report Post »jeffile
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:01pmAZ MEDIC I;m sorry but your interpretatoin is wrong. The officer is completely correct for checking within the pockets of an individual he is arresting. Would you prefer the individual be charged with a felony for bringing drugs into the processing center? Would you prefer the officer be stabbed with a needle or some other lethal instrument? And you also talk about violation of the fourth amendment well hell thye fourth has been irrepairably shredded when since they allowed TSA to check your “package” and the use of drones against private US citizens. I’m sorry, but with all due respect, I seriously doubt you were a police officer in other than Mayberry, USA. I’ve never been in law enforcement but my son has worked intact for years in the Alameda CA Santa Rita jail and I know he feels the same way. And believe me, Santa Rita jail is no Mayberry. It’s a good thing you stopped working law enforcement before you ended up dead.
Report Post »armyofnibiru
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:33pmthe guy in the orange did get in the way and should have been arrested for haveing his pants around his knees.the subject did not resist until the cop squezed his nuts,makeing him jump that caused the cop to believe he was trying to run.from there on the KID did resist.for those here that think the cop was not forcefull enough,maybe a gun shot to the back of the kids head would make you feel better.I remember a story not long ago where a woman was raped on camera in front of a subway ticket booth.the booth attendent did nothing.when she asked some passerbys to call police they raped her.and the booth attendent did nothing.where were the cops then?
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:42pmShouldn’t that cop have been using a drone instead?
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:30pmI’ll say your a liar Medic
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:44pm4th amendment violation? By trying to make sure the kid had no sharp objects or anything else dangerous? Where were you a LEO again? Holy smokes….
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:49pmBarber 2
Report Post »I don,t wish to be critical,Plz foregive me,BUT
The baggy pants kid is surely an adult,and
I would say he is a father of 3 and I would also venture
to guess he probably doesn,t know any of them.
Duddio
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:50pmAZ Medic,
Dude, Cop wants kid to put his hands behind his back, kid won’t let go of the sign. Cop tries to move him, kid won’t let go. (Resisting yet?) So cop jerks kid away from wall and we see that kids has SO tightly gripped the sign that he broke it off the wall. Is THAT resisting arrest?
Regardless of technique, this kid was resisting the whole video. Even being perp walked out at the end, he is still pulling against the officer. There is no point in the video where the kid is completely compliant with a lawful order. He was being arrested for jumping the turnstile, not for what the cop found in the search. The crime had already been committed, and the cop was just trying to clear the pockets before cuffing him. Kid was under arrest when the video started.
This cop showed amazing restraint while dealing with a punk thug-in-the-making.
Report Post »CATPBJ
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:49pmI agree with AZMEDIC and others who don’t see resisting arrest. And those of you saying he did resist the oficer are dead wrong. The perp did not commit an “arrestable” offense initially. The perp jumped the turnstile and became a fare-beater which is only a ticketable offense with a fine of $100 (although the MTA are currently in talks of increasing that fine to $500! – as a NYC native, a $500 fine for stealing a $2 subway ride is outrageous!). The policeman had a right to pat-down the guy. At this point, unless the guy had drugs or an illegal weapon on him, the cop should have issued the ticket and each go their own way. The guy obviously did not have any drugs or illegal weapons, because if he did, he would have been cuffed sooner and the policeman would have secured the potential drugs and/or weapon(s) but the cop never pocketed anything on his person, therefore there was nothing illegal in that guys possession (the video clearly shows that the officer did not confiscate and pocket anything). The guy wiggled his leg a bit like a twitch during the crotch pat-down but that is NOT resisting a pat-down or anything else for that matter. The guy kept his hands on the wall the entire time until the cop made the throwdown. Since the initial incident was ONLY a ticketable offense, at this point the officer should have written the ticket, give it to the perp, and they both go on with their day.
Report Post »vadale
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:38amYour not LEO…..You can hear the officer ask if he has anything in his pockets….A trespass suspect can be searched….NO ONE LISTEN TO THIS FALSE ADVICE….He will get you arrested….The threshold is very low that allows for a search of your person….If you resist and your wrong, off to jail you go….This guy was holding on to that poster frame when the cop went to move his arm around….Then he would not lay down with his arms back….Classic resisting
Report Post »Seede
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:06amYou think our cops are bad? Wit till you see how the Chinese and Russians take you down. And you won’t have Obama care or Holder or black Panthers or Jackson or Sharpton around to help you. They will be long gone at the very first. Good luck idiots cause your all gonna need it.
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:27amThose Russian cops don’t play around either.
Report Post »ShadowNglasS
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:10amSede go to the head of the class ! You are 100 % correct !
Total unchecked socialism can lead to communism. At that point, the useful idiots that will cause it to happen, will realize they are just like the rest of us. No freedom left, nothing just the government controling every aspect of our lives.
They will try to rebel and resist, and that’s when the guns come out. Their guns, the bad guys. The people will have lost the right to keep and bare arms. Citizens firearms legally purchased and owned, and otherwise, will be confiscated.
All this right after govenment enforced healthcare.
Wake up and smell the D@%# coffee ! TEA
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:52amLol
Report Post »Go watch cops in other countries they are much much more polite to average people. They often don’t even handcuff they ask you to get in the car. Lol seriously go look up a cops episode of Russia.
The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:55amWell China already owns what 600ik acres of Texas? Isn’t Texas the #1 concern in taking over a country? This is the 21st century, they’ll just walk in when they collapse the infrastructure from the inside… I mean when they are finished doing that that is….
Report Post »chingachgook
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:37amSocialism is communism. Lenin changed the name of the Socialist party to the communist party. They the Marxist/Communist have always felt the the European style Socialism is just a stepping stone to Communist. Communism hates religion and attacks the Catholic Church every time they can. That is what is going on with the current health care law. But it is not just the Catholics it is all religions. The Marxists never go away they just change names and appearances. When they take over there will be no discussion of resisting you will just be tased and taken away, no questions, no answers, no lawyers but Government lawyers.
Report Post »armyofnibiru
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:39pmmaybe you guys don’t know that there is no constitution in those countrys.no bill of rights,just unmiddigated power over the people.which is where we’re heading.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:04amDouchebag in orange is all I have to comment!
Report Post »Constructionist
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:58amI agree
Report Post »Brainmuffin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:41pmPants on the ground. Pants on the ground. He‘s lookin’ like a fool with his pants on the ground.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:46pmI have no experience as a LEO, but guys like the one in orange and the guy holding the camera would peg my ‘oh ****’ factor when trying to arrest someone. Feel bad for the Cop being all on his own with agitated individuals all around….
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:31pm@Eagle,
I agree. The kid committed a crime and needed to be arrested. I too would be scared to be alone in that situation.
However, don’t you suppose that cops have done their part to create this atmosphere of distrust? How many videos of police misconduct do we need to see? How many unarmed citizens need to be gunned down? The police need to police themselves. The have powers via the consent of the governed/population. They are eroding that consent with their behavior.
You want to hold the criminal in this case accountable? Fine. Me too. We need to start holding police to standards as well.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:42pm“You want to hold the criminal in this case accountable? Fine. Me too. We need to start holding police to standards as well.”
WTF are you talking about? You are just making **** up now.
Every time the cops do something out of hand or against the rules they get suspended with pay for the investigation. Then if they are found in the wrong, they ARE FIRED!!!! This cop will probably put on paid administrative leave for a few days so IA can investigate.
If they feel he was grossly wrong, they will fire him like they do do 100s of cops every year. If they feel he needs remediation they’ll send him to more training or plant his ass behind a desk. If they feel he did nothing wrong he goes right back to throwing punk ass teenage thieves on the ground when they resist arrest.
Some how you’ve come to the conclusion that cops run a muck all over the country with no boundaries or punishment when they do something wrong….
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:21pm@ Eagle,
That simply isn’t true. There is an example here in San Antonio of a cop who has been suspended 17 times…and made Lt. and almost CPT. 17 times!
In Cleveland we had many examples of police misconduct such as officers drawing paychecks while living in Detroit. Thank you Police Unions. There was that nutjob in Canton that darn near killed the CCW holder…Officer Harless. He was still on the job after many complaints. I watched a Clevland Police Officer pad a ticket and when questioned say “take it to court” knowing it was his word vs. the other guy and they dude would just pay the 30 bucks to avoid the hassle.
Here’s a list of many police killings of unarmed people. In some cases they got punished (90 days for killing a dude in the supline position when unarmed?!) and in many they got nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_States
Don’t play coy, you know cops don’t play by the same rules you and I do and you know darn well they get 10X the benefit of the doubt that other folks do. It’s not the same. If you’re a cop, you don’t trust people you come into contact with. I get that. Point is, cops don’t give much reason to trust them either. Too many examples of police misconduct to trust cops out of hand. So where does that leave us? Not in a good situation eh? Not all cops are Andy Griffith.
Report Post »dannyo
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:03amdude won’t try to evade a fare again….uh, second thought, yes he will…
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:03amResist and get taken down – - this was proper procedure.
Report Post »tuchux
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:45pmYou got that right,hes lucky he didnt end up in front of the train,both of them need to pull there stinkin pants up and show a little respect bunch of rotten punks.
Report Post »tomcatfromtexas
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:59amWhat is one persons life as compared to order? NOTHING!! If you cheat, steal, lie, or break the law and get caught, just man up and admit it. If you fight the law you will most likely get your ass body slamed. The police are payed to body slam people who are breaking the law and do not comply with there comands. This officer was maintaining ORDER.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 12:37pmSo much for conservatism, huh?
Report Post »goahead.makemyday
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:59amHe did what he had to do and no more. He had to slam the guy, the only secure hold he had on the guy was his waist. If the guy started to move when the cop was searching by his head the cop could have used his arms or neck. You see that later once the guy was immobilized and was handcuffed. The cop used no force once the guy was cuffed and secured. For all of you who say he could have used his leg you have no training do you? Lets talk this out, one leg has two main muscles that combined can provide enough explosive force to snap four inches of wood from an untrained person. The hand doesn’t even have one main muscle used for grip, not to mention a person’s wrist is much easier to break than four inches of wood. One pull to loosen grip and pull person closer. One kick to break nose, second pull to break hold. Three seconds, one assailant down and plenty of time to get off the floor and get away.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:51amThis seems to be the typical tactic of the Van Jones styled wise guys: loud mouths, lack of respect for the law, don‘t do what you’re told, wear your pants down around your ankles, taunt the police, and then do a Cecil B. DiMIlle job with a phone camera ! I say CUT. The pendulum has swung too far Left .
Report Post »vadale
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:50amRight, Notice there are two videos going before the trouble gets going…just another group messing with the cops….Plus the cop was cool and steady….didn’t punch, kick, or anything beyond what it took to get the cuffs on. However, one of the video guys was in his way and seemed to block him some. They kept distracting the cop…It would be proper to arrest him as well….That is classic interfering with police duties.
Report Post »robtech34
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:50amThe kicker in this is the jackass in the orange shirt with his douchebaggy saggy jeans hanging around, damn near, his knees. These idiots always find each other. “Idiocracy” is here, about 500 years early.
Report Post »(If you have not seen the movie Idiocracy you must)
cemerius
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:59amI agree Idiocracy is a teachable movie……..it will be America in about 10 years unless we halt the current idiocy!!
Report Post »tomcatfromtexas
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:49amWhat is one persons life as compared to order? NOTHING.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:14amHuh? What does paying for your subway fare and/or following the law have to do with ” one life ?“ Or do only the ”rich“ have to pay their ” fare ” share ???
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:43amThis officer was doing his job and in the proper way. The headline is misleading; this was a take-down not a body slam. We all have seen what a real body slam looks like. You can see waaay worse in the NFL, WWF, Monopoly…whatever.
I wonder if Obama and Holder will try to exploit this one in an effort to gain the Hispanic vote?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:54amHe could have just shot him. You get worse pat downs at the TSA.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:02amTEA: Don’t forget Van ! He’ll want some if the action. Oh, and maybe Al, and Jessie…well, maybe not as Sean wasn’t wearing a hoodie.
Report Post »stopprintn
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:43amShould have used his knight stick to smash a couple cell phones.
Report Post »Truth Troll
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:43amPigs at it again. Welcome to the NEW AMERIKA.
Report Post »TwoLazy
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:57amyou must be an OWS kinda guy, say what did you think of Chick-Fil-A, Capitalism at its best ..eh?
Report Post »dallenh
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:58amSo the policeman should have done exactly what in your view? Let him go? Wait for hours until the law breaker politely decides to let himself be arrested? What exactly?
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:56amDon’t bother. The people who come to this site might pay honor to such ideas of due process, liberty, justice, the constitution, bill of rights, etc with their lips but their hearts are far, far removed from those ideas.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:02am@Cuthalu
GFY.
Report Post »samurai2112
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 10:07amNo respect for the officer shown by anyone there especially the perp. In Japan police are trained by kendo or judo schools. They would have thought the takedown was too light if the perp did not bounce twice off of the ground.
Report Post »Duchylivin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:23am@ Cuthalu.
I second THX’s opinion. Good For You! Way to point out the mindless reactionism.
And I think I must add that when you lace your opinions with derogatory or offensive language it defeats your intent to bring others to your point of view in debate.
Report Post »retiredso
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:41amThere was nothing wrong with what the Police Officer did, That kid resisted plain and simple, the officer should plenty of restraint, kudos to NYPD and all they do
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 1:02pm“all they do”?
You mean like random stop and pat downs? You mean like arresting someone for selling a 32 oz Dr. Pepper? You mean like arresting anyone exercising their second amendment rights?
Yeah, real American heroes.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:51pm“You mean like random stop and pat downs? You mean like arresting someone for selling a 32 oz Dr. Pepper? You mean like arresting anyone exercising their second amendment rights?”
Now i’m just gonna look for all the stupid **** you say…I might not have enough time in the day though….
The random pat down thing isn’t something the cops instigated. In fact, it‘s something I’ve heard many don‘t’ like, but they are directed to do so by the governing body.
Please find one instance of a cop arresting someone for a Dr. Pepper (yes i know your being sarcastic, but you mix it in the middle of a serious argument so i’ll bash it all the same)
Again, the cops preventing people from exercising their second amendment rights comes down from the local politicians that idiots int hat area elected. The cops didn’t create the law.
So to break this down simple style for you, the COPS DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO DO BY THE LAW. Cops don‘t’ have the luxury of ‘choosing’ laws to enforce or not to enforce. They don’t have the ability to create laws or make up arrest warrants.
In many of your posts today you scream about the cops doing too much or being too brutal, then it the next paragraph you expect them to act like some sort of super police force who has unlimited powers to arrest the people you don’t like. You bitch about them using drones, then complain that they don‘t’ arrest guys at the Fed. Make up your schizo mind already…
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:34pm@ Eagle,
“The random pat down thing isn’t something the cops instigated. In fact, it‘s something I’ve heard many don‘t’ like, but they are directed to do so by the governing body.”
My point exactly. It’s wrong but the cops do it anyway. I‘m sure there were Nazi’s who didn’t like rounding up Jews too but “they were directed to do so by the governing body”. You have to decide if you are going to serve the governing body or the the laws of the land. If you chose to stop and pat somebody (not saying you;re NYPD) and I think it is in clear violation of the 4th amendment I should take issue with the law for sure but why should you get a pass for “just doing your job”? What you’re doing is wrong.
“Please find one instance of a cop arresting someone for a Dr. Pepper (yes i know your being sarcastic, but you mix it in the middle of a serious argument so i’ll bash it all the same)”
It’s a law on the books just like the stealing of the subway fare. Why wouldn’t you arrest someone selling coke in bottles that are not approved by city ordinance? Do you get to interpret which laws to enforce?
I understand your frustration. But I will stick by my argument that the “we just do what the law tells us” is a cop out (ha). The laws are getting worse and worse. The amount of “law” in incapable of being comprehended by anyone. Obamacare is 2700 pages. By your standard, there is nothing you wouldn’t enforce. That is my issue.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:30pmSorry, I wanted to address this statement too.
“Again, the cops preventing people from exercising their second amendment rights comes down from the local politicians that idiots int hat area elected. The cops didn’t create the law.”
You have a choice. Local ordinance (or state? who knows) says I can’t have a gun. The constitution says I can. Clearly you are going to enforce the ordinance. I think that is wrong. It’s what the OathKeepers were built to prevent. You should check them out.
You don’t get to make the laws. But as a Marine you swore an oath to the constitution that overrides your commitment to any ordinance. Like the laws of war if a superior gives you an order in violation of the constitution you are bound not to follow it.
We as citizens need to hold politicians and police accountable. They (politicians) can’t violate our rights with you (police). Your job is to protect my (the people’s rights). You‘re not doing anything that I couldn’t do for myself. What I mean is I have right to defend myself and my property…hence you do as a cop. I don’t have a right to spy on my neighbor…neither should you (without a warrant).
Report Post »alpha2omega47
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:39amListen Millennial Generation morons and all others; this guy made a move like he was going to try to escape and this officer did what he is trained to do ~ take control of the situation. Remember that when you losers are protesting between now and the November election. If you attract a cops attention ~ you best be respectable because they are trained to make sure you know that ybeing arrested is not a nice experience. The degree of pain you will get will be in direct proportion to the resistance and respect you give the officer. If you run ~ you deserve what Rodney King got ~ PERIOD.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:57amI had an officer friend of mine take me down with just a car key…across my thumb. He told me to act like I was resisting getting cuffed, because if you’re not still getting cuffed, they can’t do it. He put that key across my thumb and I would have followed him anywhere with no resistance. This kid obviously was carrying something (probably drugs) and didn’t want to get searched. Got news for you, if you’re carrying, don’t break a law, like not paying for subway fair.
Report Post »Smokepole
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:39amNope, little bastard got what was coming to him. He didn’t comply and follow instructions. Tough luck, he got his ass tossed. Remember, police are not trained to lose confrontations.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:24amPolice are no better wrestlers or combatants than the general public. They usually rely on numerical advantage to win confrontations-hence when something goes down, 20 squad cars show up. They lose one-on-one confrontations all the time. It is a myth that they are “super-duper, highly trained killers that can shoot a hole through flea’s ass at 200 meters and…….” That is a myth. They are humans just like the rest of us.
Report Post »bannedfromCNN
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:26amIf Soetoro had a son, he’d look and behave like this loser.
Report Post »Southernsoul
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:36amLet’s complain about cops prowling the streets in unmarked cars looking to hand out expensive traffic tickets, or hiding behind bushes to catch someone violating an artificially low speed limit, but not for roughing up some punk in a ten second video clip.
Report Post »mrsclark
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:31amYou could see him resisting. Notice the cops foot against the kid’s foot while frisking, and then his quick jerk when the kid starts to move. There was also something verbal going on that we could not here and the combination was what caused the cops reaction. If the kid werent resisting when the cop slammed him he would have gone flat and laid there with his hands up, which he never does. There was obvious resistance.
Report Post »Dde13
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:30amSimple, if you break the law and resist at all, be willing to deal with the consequences.
Report Post »I’m tired of the tail waging the dog.
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:29amGood job. Proper level of physical force to subdue and arrest.
Report Post »MotoMofo
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:29amIt’s like the officer finds something, the kid jumps and grabs hold of the poster on the wall. The officer takes him down and the kid fights to stand back up and grabs another poster. Another take down.
Report Post »Edward
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:46pmor maybe the cop checked his crotch and made the kid jump. Its natural instinct to jump and move away from an unwanted hand in your private areas. The cop reacted off of this. The kid hadn’t moved a single bit before that. Cops always confuse natural, involuntary responses as resisting. Ive seen plenty of videos of people getting tazed or stomped by cops who continuously yell “Quit Resisting” while they beat the **** out of a perp. Never mind the fact that the body is acting to protect itself by covering up and tryin to avoid the pain. But no idiot cops think if your moving even a twitch while getting beaten ur resisting. Cops are not here to protect you they gladly look to hurt the next person that crosses their path.
Report Post »CATPBJ
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:01am@MOTOMOFO – did you see the officer take anything away from the perp and secure (pocket) it on his person before the take-down? No, me either! The guy twitched a bit during the crotch area pat-down, but that is NOT a reason to say he resisted the officer! The perps hands were on the wall the whole time which CLEARLY shows he cooperated with the officer and was NOT resisting or threatening, in fact, his hands were on the wall so good that he took down the subway ad poster during the body-slam! His initial infraction was ONLY subway theft-of-service which is a ticketable offense ($100) and would not have been arrested/cuffed. However, it seems like the cop either had a fight with the wife, or maybe lost money at the track, or anything else to put him in a crappy mood earlier in the day, and decided to take out some aggression on this guy.
Report Post »All American American
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:23amNobody’s ever accused me of being a cop-lover but in this case you do what you gotta do. I wouldn’t call that a body slam as much as he wrestled him to the ground to get him off the subway ad poster.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:19amResist We Much !
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:16amNice job. His restraint is admirable. Lucky for that punk he didn’t encounter this old lady. I would not have been so restrained.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:21amBeats the billyclub upside the noggin.
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