Video Shows Awful Reality at Norway‘s ’Childhood Paradise…Transformed Into Hell’
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OSLO, Norway (AP) — Norway’s prime minister says an island where 80 people were killed in a massacre was “my childhood paradise that … was transformed into Hell.”
Jens Stoltenberg told reporters Saturday that he had spent many summers on Utoya. A gunman killed dozens there Friday night, shortly after a bomb was detonated in the country’s capital, Oslo.
Police have one suspect in custody. Stoltenberg said it was too early to comment on the motives behind the attacks.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.
OSLO, Norway (AP) — A Norwegian who dressed as a police officer to gun down summer campers killed at least 80 people at an island retreat, horrified police said early Saturday. It took investigators several hours to begin to realize the full scope of Friday’s massacre, which followed an explosion in nearby Oslo that killed seven and that police say was set off by the same suspect.
The mass shootings are among the worst in history. With the blast outside the prime minister’s office, they formed the deadliest day of terror in Western Europe since the 2004 Madrid train bombings killed 191.
Police initially said about 10 were killed at the forested camp on the island of Utoya, but some survivors said they thought the toll was much higher. Police director Oystein Maeland told reporters early Saturday they had discovered many more victims.
“It’s taken time to search the area. What we know now is that we can say that there are at least 80 killed at Utoya,” Maeland said. “It goes without saying that this gives dimensions to this incident that are exceptional.”
Maeland said the death toll could rise even more. He said others were severely wounded, but police didn’t know how many were hurt.
The island is about 500 yards (meters) from one shore of Tyrifjorden lake, an oddly shaped body of water that is 15 miles (25 kilometers) at its longest and 8 miles (12 kilometers) at its widest.
A suspect in the shootings and the Oslo explosion was arrested. Though police did not release his name, Norwegian national broadcaster NRK identified him as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik and said police searched his Oslo apartment overnight. NRK and other Norwegian media posted pictures of the blond, blue-eyed Norwegian.
National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told NRK that the suspected gunman’s Internet postings “suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen.”
A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.
“It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said. “This seems like a madman’s work.”
The official said the attack “is probably more Norway‘s Oklahoma City than it is Norway’s World Trade Center.” Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
The official added, however, “it’s still just hours since the incident happened. And the investigation is going on with all available resources.”
The motive was unknown, but both attacks were in areas connected to the left-leaning Labor Party, which leads a coalition government. The youth camp, about 20 miles (35 kilometers) northwest of Oslo, is organized by the party’s youth wing, and the prime minister had been scheduled to speak there Saturday.
A 15-year-old camper named Elise said she heard gunshots, but then saw a police officer and thought she was safe. Then he started shooting people right before her eyes.
“I saw many dead people,” said Elise, whose father, Vidar Myhre, didn’t want her to disclose her last name. “He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water.”
Elise said she hid behind the same rock that the killer was standing on. “I could hear his breathing from the top of the rock,” she said.
She said it was impossible to say how many minutes passed while she was waiting for him to stop.
At a hotel in the village of Sundvollen, where survivors of the shooting were taken, 21-year-old Dana Berzingi wore pants stained with blood. He said the fake police officer ordered people to come closer, then pulled weapons and ammunition from a bag and started shooting.
Several victims “had pretended as if they were dead to survive,” Berzingi said. But after shooting the victims with one gun, the gunman shot them again in the head with a shotgun, he said.
“I lost several friends,” said Berzingi, who used the cell phone of one of those friends to call police.
The blast in Oslo, Norway’s capital and the city where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings. Most of the windows in the 20-floor high-rise where Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his administration work were shattered. Other buildings damaged house government offices and the headquarters of some of Norway’s leading newspapers.
The dust-fogged scene after the blast reminded one visitor from New York of Sept. 11.
Ian Dutton, who was in a nearby hotel, said people “just covered in rubble” were walking through “a fog of debris.”
“It wasn’t any sort of a panic,” he said, “It was really just people in disbelief and shock, especially in a such as safe and open country as Norway. You don’t even think something like that is possible.”
Police said the Oslo explosion was caused by “one or more” bombs.
The police official said the Oslo bombing occurred at 3:26 p.m. local time (1:26 p.m. GMT), and the camp shootings began one to two hours later. The official said the gunman used both automatic weapons and handguns, and that there was at least one unexploded device at the youth camp that a police bomb disposal team and military experts were working on disarming.
The suspect had only a minor criminal record, the official said.
Sponheim said seven people were killed by the blast in downtown Oslo, four of whom have been identified, and that nine or 10 people were seriously wounded.
Sponheim said a man was arrested in the shooting, and the suspect had been observed in Oslo before the explosion there. But he refused to confirm the suspect’s identity as reported by Norwegian media.
Sponheim said the camp shooter “wore a sweater with a police sign on it. I can confirm that he wasn’t a police employee and never has been.”
Aerial images broadcast by Norway’s TV2 showed members of a SWAT team dressed in black arriving at the island in boats and running up the dock. People who had stripped down to their underwear moved in the opposite direction, swimming away from the island toward the mainland, some using flotation devices.
Sponheim said police were still trying to get an overview of the camp shooting and could not say whether there was more than one shooter. He would not give any details about the identity or nationality of the suspect, who was being interrogated by police.
Oslo University Hospital said 12 people were admitted for treatment following the Utoya shooting, and 11 people were taken there from the explosion in Oslo. The hospital asked people to donate blood.
Prime Minister Stoltenberg, who was home when the blast occurred and was not harmed, visited wounded people at the hospital late Friday. Earlier he decried what he called “a cowardly attack on young innocent civilians.”
“I have a message for those who attacked us,” he said. “It’s a message from all of Norway: You will not destroy our democracy and our commitment to a better world.”
NRK showed video in Oslo of a blackened car lying on its side amid the debris. An AP reporter who was in the office of Norwegian news agency NTB said the building shook from the blast and all employees were evacuated. Down in the street, he saw one person with a bleeding leg being led away from the area.
An AP reporter headed to Utoya was turned away by police before reaching the lake that surrounds the island, as eight ambulances with sirens blaring entered the area. Police blocked off roads leading to the lake.
The United States, European Union, NATO and the U.K., all quickly condemned the bombing, which Britain’s Foreign Secretary William Hague called “horrific” and NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen deemed a “heinous act.”
“It’s a reminder that the entire international community has a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring,” President Barack Obama said.
Obama extended his condolences to Norway’s people and offered U.S. assistance with the investigation. He said he remembered how warmly Norwegians treated him in Oslo when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.
Nobel Peace Prize Chairman Thorbjorn Jagland said it appeared the camp attack “was intended to hurt young citizens who actively engage in our democratic and political society. But we must not be intimidated. We need to work for freedom and democracy every day.”
A U.S. counterterrorism official said the United States knew of no links to terrorist groups and early indications were the attack was domestic. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was being handled by Norway.
At least two Islamist extremist groups had tried to take credit for the attacks. Many intelligence analysts said they had never heard of Helpers of Global Jihad, which took initial credit. The Kurdish group Ansar al-Islam also took credit on some jihadist websites.
Norway has been grappling with a homegrown terror plot linked to al-Qaida. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.
Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar — the founder of Ansar al-Islam — made to various news media, including American network NBC.
Terrorism has also been a concern in neighboring Denmark since an uproar over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad six years ago.
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Ritter reported from Stockholm. Associated Press reporters Bjoern H. Amland in Hoenefoss, Norway, Louise Nordstrom in Stockholm, Matthew Lee and Rita Foley in Washington, Paisley Dodds in London, and Paul Schemm in Tripoli, Libya, contributed to this report.
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Comments (139)
crazytalk
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:52amSpending time at a hate Israel, communist labour camp doesn’t sound like paradise to me.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:40amI can see why you call yourself “CRAZYTALK”
Report Post »When in doubt, chose life… Jackass!
KarenMo
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:47amReminds me of Obama’s summer camp – see below. Creepy!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/Summer-Organizer?source=BOF
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2316751961&topic=2326
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:14amNo, a crazy psycho killing UNARMED KIDS is creepy!!!
Report Post »Jackass!!
conservativeKen1971
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:01amWhat has happened in Norway is truly tragic, but the fact is this is because of a mad man and not the guns he used. Guns do not kill people; people kills people. To ban guns because they are used to kill people is unreasonable. I mean here is a short list of items that has been used to kill people that should be banned if guns are banned.
water, rope, telephone chord, steak knives, vehicles, pillows, bare hands, feet, lumber, axes, hammers, screw drivers etc. etc. Feel free to add to this list.
Report Post »ajoshmaker
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:47pmHere are a few more things that have been used to kill people: anthrax, tanks, nuclear bombs, land mines, scud missiles, and cyanide darts.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:16amYour moms face…
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:24amFocus on the tragedy!!
Report Post »This is precisely what the muslims did after 911.
They got all defensive, instead of going after the problem.
So what does that say about you?
Bygred
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:52amFor any one wondering what “type” of person wrote my post??? I’m a Vet………. I’m conservative…………“GOD” Fearing………and loving caring family man!!!! Oh Ya, and a registered “LEGAL” (License to Carry Pistol) gun owner!!!!!!!! Surprised???????………………………………………………..I wish just ( 1) person there on the island was allowed that same FREEDOM!!!!!! So Sad!!!!
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:00amThe 1 person who (sadly) exercised his rights was the shooter to shoot the kids.
Unless of course you are now advocating guns for kids. That would be really sick.
Report Post »Bygred
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:11amRead my previous post 2012!!! You won’t find any mention of gun rights………..seriously??????????? FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS!!!!!
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:17amOh Ya, and a registered “LEGAL” (License to Carry Pistol) gun owner!!!!!!!! Surprised???????…..I wish just ( 1) person there on the island was allowed that same FREEDOM!!!!!! So Sad!!!!
Cant you understand your own writing??? You used pistol and freedom in the same paragraph. You want all kids to carry guns to “defend” themselves, you sicko.
Report Post »loganbeare
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:18amYou know I can’t believe the nerve of some people. Here is a veteran, someone who put their life on the line for us. He probably knows something about freedom and how to protect it. And then there are others ( as comments above show) whom don’t respect those who serve and who havent served. Who think they know everything about freedom, and are so educated. When in reality they spend there time on news outlets spilling political hate (left or right) in comments as if they are going to change someone’s political view by ******* them off. I have never met a man whose opinion was changed after reading one thing and I doubt I ever will.
Report Post »Emrys
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:22am(2112 said) “Unless of course you are now advocating guns for kids. That would be really sick.”
Bygred didn’t say the kids should have the guns, moron. There were assumabley adults on the island, the people who ran the place. THEY could have had a gun or two under lock and key for just such an emergency. Sheesh. Don’t be a troll. And even IF Bygred had meant the kids, so what? How is a 16-18 year old having a gun sick? Go to an NRA shooting tournament out west some time and see the kids with guns. They dont’ go around shooting each other. They’re taught to use a weapon responsibly. It’s not the rednecks with their guns going into schools and shooting them up. Moron.
Prayers for the families and friends of the wounded and the lost. Senselessness. One guard with a gun, or one gun kept by a supervisor and maybe 80 people could have been saved. The bad guys will always find a way to kill (guns, knives, mass poisoning, bombs), but the good guys have to be armed to stop them. Otherwise, we’re all sitting ducks waiting for some madman to pick us off. This man does not deserve any mercy.
Report Post »Bygred
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:29amTo “GOP 2012” & TRUTH, May I put it into clearer context for you? NORWAY doesn’t have a 2nd Amendment right. That’s the point!!!! The “LEGAL” possession of a firearm pertains to adults!!!! That have had a (completed back round check), Not “KIDS”. I’m sure there were “Adults”(over 21) at this get together too. I regret even having to clarify that!!!!!!!
Report Post »Bygred
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:34amTo GOP 2012, Please, refrain from the personal insults. Read my (9:35) post. your too quick to judge! SICKO?????? How old are you??????
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:07amBeing a vet is great and I thank him for that, but that doesnt mean his statements cannot be challenged. Respect is earned always, and is not automatic and forever.
Sick, unintelligent comments dont earn respect: saying that kids of any age should have the “freedom” to defend themselves is gangster-like talk is an example of an unintelligent comment.
Report Post »duckman1911
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:12amOne person with one gun and the ability to use it was all that was needed to stop this madman. Many lives could have been saved if someone would have put a 230grn hollowpoint in his head. I carry my .45 all day everyday because you never know whats going to happen. Bad guys pick where and when to fight and good guys are left having to defend themselfs and others. Always have your sidearm with you and ready for a fight
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:53pm2012- Think about what you are saying, “Sick, unintelligent comments dont earn respect: saying that kids of any age should have the “freedom” to defend themselves is gangster-like talk is an example of an unintelligent comment.”
Are you out of your mind? Children should and do have the right to defend themselves. Your remark is the unintelligent comment.”
Report Post »Mauser KAR98K
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:03pm“Sick, unintelligent comments dont earn respect: saying that kids of any age should have the “freedom” to defend themselves is gangster-like talk is an example of an unintelligent comment.”
Say what?! What you wrote is an unintelligent comment. Everyone should have the freedom to defend themselves. This mind set you are advocating is why we have some many VICTIMS because kids are taught that they should be victims and become one for the greater agenda. If even one child was armed, much less knew how to disarm during this incident, or even in other school shootings, body counts could be much less and there would be more heroes in the spotlight than moaning, bitching, spinless liberals wanting more restrictive rules to create more victims.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:04pm@Bough Silo
Great. Give **any** 5 year old, 7 year old, 10 year old a gun is what you are saying, simply to exercise a perceived “right.”!!!
Got any relatives you want to try that scheme with???? Lets start with training the 7 year old on how to use a gun and then give him/her the gun to carry around once that done. Its their “right” after all, you say.
Lets us know asap how it works out for ya please!!
Report Post »jhpetersen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:54pmIts this kind of mentality thats the reason why you have so many accidental shootings and not to say gun murders in the USA. Try and compare it to Scandinavia.
Second of all, please cut the jingoistic freedom loving crap. The norwegians has just as many rights as you do. They can have a gun to, its just not as easy to get them. you have to go through tests and training before you are allowed to have a gun in scandinavia. But you can own them, and you can defend yourselves with them. They just did not have any at this summer camp, obviously, ITS A YOUTH SUMMER CAMP. Just because there is a gun in every freaking closet in america, does not mean the rest of the world has. Which again, goes to my first point above about gun deaths.
- And to the people spouting stuff about attacking the gunman. Who first of all was armed with a Glock, a rifle, a shotgun and explosives, was also a bodybuilder. So he was freaking huge.
Report Post »So you guys are saying a bunch of small kids should have jumped the authotarian bodybuilder armed to the teeth with guns and explosive and body armor… god you guys are full of it.
Schamsie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:50pmActually, Norway has a high level of gun ownership. They just don’t use them to kill each other over there as much as we do here. Go figure.
Report Post »Schamsie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:17pmActually, Norway allows guns. Can you back your contention that they weren’t allowed to have guns on the island? Norway has a very hgh level of gun ownership. As a matter of fact, there was at least one guy on the island with a completely legal gun.
Report Post »Pilgrim Bill
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:46amneither mcvieh or that arizona murder where christians
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:48amTry telling that to the many fools who sometimes post here.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07amDid you note what the prime minister stated – “ committed to making a better world”. Also, didn’t comment on fact that shooter will only get 6 months in rehab.
Report Post »Zim
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:43amA sad story. Not sure why people shot kids. Even if they were at a socialist training camp. I would guess it is hard to own a gun there and a few adults with guns could have ending this a lot faster. Again failed liberal policies make things worse
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:56amSo because of our second amendment rights, shootings never happen in America?
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:13am@Truth
No the are saying that he would have been shot by someone with a concealed carry; therefore saving many innocent lives.
Duh!
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:31amHow has that worked in America? Virginia Tech-32 dead, 25 wounded. Fort Hood (A military base mind you)-13 dead, 29 wounded. Also, you want loaded weapons at a children’s camp? Sounds like a bad idea to me.
Report Post »loganbeare
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:44am@Truth
Report Post »Crazy thing called a lock and key, oh and responsibility. See us humans are reasonable, and desent people thats why these stories are not always on the news in the evening. However there are instances when crazy people do crazy things. Now imagine fort hood if no one had weapons ( I know crazy because it is a military base) but for sake of argument no guns. How would you suggest stopping the massacure or from the death toll rising? Wait for the police, which gives more time for the shooter to keep shooting. Or rather have someone there with a gun to attempt to take out the shooter sooner, so less lives are lost!
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:08am@Truth: Interesting that you use Virginia Tech and Fort Hood as examples since Schools and Military bases are both places where concealed carry is NOT allowed. Kind of support‘s Zim’s point rather than yours.
Report Post »Jingoistic
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:34pmArmy bases don’t allow person weapons at all not even in housing, my son-in-law is in the Army. They are essentially unarmed communities. Israeli schools are full of armed people, “loaded weapons around children”. Ideas like yours lead to insane gunmen killing unarmed people, that is an indisputable fact!
Report Post »Countrygirl1362
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:37amPrayers for all that have been affected by this horror.
Report Post »Bygred
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:35amCan “We” ever just step outside our little boxes and minds-eye to simply understand “We” humans are flawed!!! There”s always going to be insanity and emotional outbursts of many different types including horrific violence on a grand scale. It happens every day all over the world!!! From a stressed out parent slapping his bratty kid to this lone nut job going on a shooting spree!! Once a person detaches from reality, saneness, compassion, LOVE!!!!!!!!!! for his fellow man including “the ones he or she may hate” then you have anarchy and evil occur………… Be strong in your resolve to reject this type of behavior, lead by example and hopefully we (The Sane) remain the dominant force in the world******** Say a prayer for the souls of those who died. That’s really all that left at this point. No policy changes, new screening, or any other BS will ever change the truth that “We” are all part of a big circus and just waiting around for the next show that again will remind us how Humans are Flawed and have to fight every day to stay focused on what’s real and important in life. God Bless the People of NORWAY on this sad Day!!!!!
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Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:03amthe only flaws i see are
Report Post »Krav Maglock
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:33amAdd your comments
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:05amNorway’s prime minister says an island where 80 people were killed in a massacre was “my childhood paradise that … was transformed into Hell.”
The mass shootings are among the “worst in history”. With the blast outside the prime minister’s office, they formed the “deadliest day of terror” in Western Europe since the 2004 Madrid train bombings killed 191.
call me crazy, but, mathmatically, the Madrid bombing was more deadly…
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:28amWell, the Professional Left are just going to be in a ma$turbatory frenzy over this for DAYS, aren’t they?
I bet some of them even find it in themselves to shed their horror over capital punishment, this time.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:02amDays? Try month and years. No matter what the facts are.
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:14amNorwegian Labor Party = Democratic Socialism/National Socialism. It is possible that the attacker will be linked to the Christian Conservative Party to escalate further crack-downs via government
controls. The youth camp is also affiliated with the European Socialist Youth Organizations.
The Democratic Socialists need to pay attention to this possible future as they further expand their
Report Post »Own agendas…
Schamsie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:26pmYes, he may be linked to christians and conservatives given the fact that he describes himself as a conservative and a christian. That liberal media has a way of twisting things.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:08amThere is already is Left wing Propaganda camps here in the United States. They are called PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
Report Post »When are you going to realize that your Children are being indoctrinated and have been indoctrinated for the past 40 years. Incrementalism is happenning but on a faster scale now.
Remove your children from Public school. Put them in Private school or Home School Them. Your Children will be better off and actually get an education.
Jack2011
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:47amExactly WHY the left fights so hard against giving parents vouchers to send their kids to whatever school they want despite the fact it would be CHEAPER in the long run. No more teacher/principal/janitor PUBLIC employee retirements to pay for or schools to build and maintain.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:06amDid they get the guns from the USA? sounds like we need a new, ‘world wide’ “assault weapons ban”……..Diane Feinstien, why don‘t you leave the USA and help the Norwegians with their ’gun control problem’….???
Report Post »wild72
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:03am@ Select Palin for GOP 2012 to Reelect Obama!
Come to my house first when u ban guns. I will give u mine right in your a$$. As always u lefties have your facts wrong again. Gifford was shot by one of u lefties…we all know this! Why don’t u? Oh thats right, you are not allowed to know. Play dumb it works for u fools!
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:02amRep. Giffords’ shooter was a liberal? A liberal who tried to join the military and called a girl who read a poem about abortion a terrorist? Why is it necessary to stick political labels on him (or bring him up at all), he was a messed up kid plain and simple.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07amHe isnt a leftie! It only exists in your mind, just like that airhead Sarah “Reload” Palin
Report Post »Lana40
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:14pm@Truth Exactly! He was a messed up person, but the media, the democrats, and even their own Sheriff was on TV spouting off that it was a right-winger. That because of Palin‘s ’tough talk’, it made him go off. If you go back and listen to the speeches and interviews, you’d think that the monster just walked out of the Republican training camp for right-wing Tea Partiers. Even the President had a voice in it. BUT…low and behold it was NONE of that. Just a sc rewed up idiot that followed the left’s agenda.
Report Post »Then Surprise! Surprise! The media stopped talking about it. Never mentioning who he really was.
A MONSTER!!!
Dustoff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:00amI just love you anti-gun nuts.
If someone wants to kill you, they will find a way. If it be a car, bomb, knife or a rock.
Report Post »I would rather be able to fight back then just lay there a die.
TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:33am“If someone wants to kill you, they will find a way.”
Right, and if you want to live YOU will find a way.
Report Post »Frank Dracman
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:00amThis sounds like a mad man on a shooting/killing spree…. a vary sad story, so many dead.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:49amGod bless Norway
Report Post »loganbeare
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:01amYou do realize Bill Ahers was behind the Oklahoma City bombing, and he currently advises president Obama. The guy who shot congress woman Giford was traced to the left. The guy who flew the plane onto the IRS building was a member of the socialist party of America. Now I know you left wingers don’t kniw your history but these events are recent. Next time educate yourself on the situation before spilling political Crap because at the end of this story 87 people are dead and being bitter about political lines isn’t going go bring them back
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:13am@Logan
“You do realize Bill Ahers was behind the Oklahoma City bombing.”
What Koolaid are you drinking???? McVeigh ADMITTED IT!
You far right wing medicare-killing nasa-killing gun-loving nuts are a bit too much into that moonshine to know global facts.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:21am@Armed
Mcveigh was a right winger who hated the Federal Govt and killed many to prove his point. These facts cannot be disputed as they are a matter of public record.
Hitler was a right wing facist, like Mussolini and Franco. Just like Mcveigh and many right wing medicare-killing nuts.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:31am@2012
Report Post »You are right, my apologies McVeigh was behind the Oklahoma city bombing. However Bill Ayers is linked to multiple bombings in the 60s and 70s. Still a domestic terrorist and still a radical leftist. But the argument here should not be about left or right because radicals are in each side. The right denounces Hitler, McVeigh, ext, just as the left denounces Lenin, the man who shot Gifford, ext. The argument shouldn’t be about sides it should be to get rid and denounce the crazies on both side.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:46amRight wing nuts jobs are everywhere — they are JUST as bad as Islamic ones.
The US has them: Oaklahoma City, Gifford etc — give a right winger a gun and he’ll want to use it to prove his point.
Ban guns!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:49amBanning guns worked real well for the victims on the island. No one could shoot back. It was this guy’s personal hunting ground.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:53amHis guns worked real well for the 84 dead kids….duh
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:54amHow about we bad you dummy.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:56amOOPs (BAN) Blaze what’s with the comments? It quit before I finished typing?
Report Post »KE_in_IA
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:09am@ Select Palin: You’d consider me a “right winger” and I happen to own guns. But to say I’d shoot people just to prove a point is outrageous and absurd.
My heart aches for the victims of this senseless, horrific crime.
Report Post »Krav Maglock
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:32amYou need to get the facts straight first off. jarred Laughner was not a “right wing extremist” he was an obsessed democrat who thought Gabriel Gifford was not liberal enough on some of her policies. Rantings from chicken S**t P***ies like you only reafirm the my opinion that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Report Post »conservativeKen1971
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:47amGuns do not kill people; people kills people. To ban guns because they are used to kill with then also ban vehicles, ropes, water, steak knives, bare hands and feet etc. etc. The list can go on and on listing off items used to kill with. What happened in Norway is tragic, but is due to a mad man, not a gun.
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:05am@conservativeKen1971
Report Post »I understand the point you are trying to make and I think banning guns at this point in history is a mistake, but the difference is guns are exclusively for killing.
Armed Patriot
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:11am@Select Palin for GOP 2012 to Reelect Obama!… “Right wing nuts jobs are everywhere — they are JUST as bad as Islamic ones.”
Your remark is uneducated & ignorant. Most people who use a gun for crimes or to harm others are liberals. Most people who own guns for hunting or self defense are conservative & never shoot anyone. More guns are used to STOP crimes than to commit crimes.
You know who else believed in banning guns? Hitler, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Idi Amin, Castro, Mao, Qaddafi, Kim Jong-Il. How did those all work out genius?
Left wingers are by far more violent and chaos oriented than right wingers. Look at all the violence & chaotic protests that have happened in the past. Public workers union has a protest, $8 million dollars in damage & clean up. At every Tea Party rally Ive been to we stop & clean up our trash before leaving. Glenn Beck holds a rally in DC with 300,000 – 500,000 people & the place was left cleaner than before the rally. Ed Schultz & Al (not a reverend) Sharpton host the One Nation Socialist Union rally shortly thereafter with much smaller crowds & left the same area, Washington Mall, monuments & surrounding areas, littered with union signs & communist propaganda leaflets & signs, looking like a trash dump.
The right has a cause and we petition our government, hold peaceful Tea Party protests, & carry signs. The left has a cause & they glitter attack, flash mob attack, threaten & intimidate. The leftists truly are the peaceful and tolerant
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:45amAnd, after the bombing and this mass murder, will the people of Norway finally take a stand against the death-cult-of-islam? I won’t hold my breath. When will the world stand up to the muslim-animals and say no “NO MORE”? The longer that we allow the muslim-death-cultists to exist and breed more terrorists, the worse things are going to get.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:56amYou are smoking your Bacon: he isnt Muslim — he’s a right wing fundamentalist Christian, just like the Gifford shooter and Oklahoma bombers
You cant blame Muslims for everything, otherwise you’ll miss spotting the equally crazy Christian nuts
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:30amYou lying dirtbag. Giffords shooter was a left wing loon! Just like you are.
Report Post »Rocky_biskit
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:38am“he’s a right wing fundamentalist Christian, just like the Gifford shooter … ” ??
I am certain that you are mistaken on that one. According to relatives in Arizona the assailant was, “an atheist who is well know for his support of Global Warming causes and Al Gore”.
A more consistent argument is that Loughner may have despised Giffords’ conservative views. As a previous Republican, Gifford believes in enhanced border security, lower taxes, less government, cutting Congress’ pay and restoring fiscal responsibility in the government.
Report Post »USMarine0311
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:39am@ Select Pailin to reelect Obama
Stop with your blaming the right wingers already. You are making statements that have no grounds of evidence. I have read all the stories in regards to this story and the only thing that even remotely said anything about right wing was that ‘some speculate“ that he ”may have some leaning towards the right”. Much like the Gabby Gifford case which was speculated to be a right wing person initially (pushed by the left wing media) was wrong. When one of the people that knew the shooter of Gabby Gifford was asked about his political affiliation he stated he did not really have one but if he did he leaned more left. So shut your pie hole if you can not tell the truth. Oh wait I am sorry your a lefty, you are incapable of telling the truth, my bad.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:58am@USMarine
Clearly you are reading the rightwing news sites which play down his right wing connections.
The Far Right wing Norweigan Party confirmed he is a member. See google news links for the stories
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:07amI’m moderate, so I can clear up confusion. The Norway killer was not a Muslim and was indeed a right wing extremist. The AZ shooter was neither fully conservative or fully liberal.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:44amCreepy indoctrination camp attacked. hmmm
Report Post »one.dakine.howlie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:30amHow can they immediately “know” that the same guy caused the explosions and shot all those people on a remote island??? This just barely happened yet they‘re giving information as if they’ve done a six month investigation. Why would a “right-wing extremist” kill a bunch of white kids at a children’s camp? The Norwegian government is trying way to hard to make this NOT look like an islamic terrorist attack.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:52am1. They have him on video in the two places
2. He admitted to it
3. He bought 6 tones of fertilzer
Doesnt take months to figure its the same idiot.
Report Post »USMarine0311
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:44amHey Elect Pailin to Re-elect Obama
Once again get your facts straight. The fact that he bought fertilizer stands to reason becasue from the stories I read he was in charge of running a large farm which would require fertilizer. Not saying he did not mis use it but claiming that is a reason for guilt is unfounded. Know the truth before you speak out.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:47amTwo Islamic terrorist organizations tried to claim responsibility. They support killing this kind of mass murder in the name of their god. Christians do not. He may claim to be a fundamentalist Christian, but his actions say otherwise.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:05am@US Marine
Which part of the 6 tons, video evidence and his guilty admission didnt you get? The entire Norway gets it.
With your powers of deduction, I hope you arent/werent part of Military Intelligence, or we’ll be in big trouble.
Maybe you were part of the team that deduced that Saddaam had WMD??
Report Post »Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:20amThese people are in denial, are they also refusing to admit it is terrorism. I swear from what i just read they are calling it an isolated incedent. I am almost postive that a Islamic group took credit for it almost as it was happening as reported earlier. The next thing i see come up after that is Norway officials saying it was a right wing terrosit attack. I think Norway is in bed with Poohead cockface taken it in the butt hates america and you disastermanobama. And yes i dont belive in Same sex marriage or the act of same sex anything, but i dont hate you either, it seems you hate everyone else tho.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:48amC’mon guys. There were witnesses to the shooter on the island. That’s where they caught him. That’s not something that can be covered up.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:20amAm I the only one that thinks a Government (Party indoctrination) summer camp for kids is creepy? And if you have such a thing wouldn’t you think you might have a problem?
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:58amYeh — The Republican Party Youth wing is JUST as creepy
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:17amLet me tell you from experience, there’s no summer-camp indoctrination like Jesus-summer-camp indoctrination.
Report Post »KarenMo
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:43am@Select Palin for GOP 2012 to Reelect Obama!
I have never heard of “right wing youth camp.” Can you post a link? Here are some info on Obama’s summer camp so that you can join. Hurry – only a few weeks left! Get in while you can!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/Summer-Organizer?source=BOF
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2316751961&topic=2326
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:10am@karen
You heard of the KKK????
Report Post »restoretheusa
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:12amwhat a mess…
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:36amTime to step up profiling of blond blued eyed nordic types[and their wheeled chaired grannys too.]You can’t be to sure about barbarians who go hunting for children!
Report Post »Highland
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:07amIf he hated Muslims, why didn’t he kill them instead of his fellow blue-eyed blond Norwegians? Something isn’t passing the smell test here.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:15amAs much as I believe in the NRA…please don’t let any fools post here about “if only they’d had some concealed weapons…this could have been averted”…such idiocy only degrades this site and enhances the tragedy even further.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:16amMakes you wonder if he either is the fall guy or maybe converted to Islam.
Report Post »So
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:17amAgreed.
Someone is rushing judgement to skew the news.
Time will tell.
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Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:26amThe_Almighty_Creestof
Report Post »Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:15am
As much as I believe in the NRA…please don’t let any fools post here about “if only they’d had some concealed weapons…this could have been averted”…such idiocy only degrades this site and enhances the tragedy even further.
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You degrade this site with your stupidity. If someone happend to be armed their and saw this police man shooting kids they could have taken his a$$ out. To bad they dont have armed citzens thier to aid in the protection of the public. once again proves how valuble our constution is in America. God please help these people who are suffering so, i ask that you comfort them with your touch and warm inbrace, please watch over them and help guide thier footsteps through this diffcult time
let us prey
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:27am@The almighty
Report Post »Tragic. What is idiotic about the fact that this could have been minimized. If people were armed, the possibility of fewer casualaties would be possible. This does not enhance the tragedy IMO.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:35am“If he hated Muslims, why didn’t he kill them instead of his fellow blue-eyed blond Norwegians?”
Probably because he regarded Norway’s leaders as traitors for not suppressing or expelling Muslims.
You may hate foreign invaders of your country, but you reserve special hatred for quislings (a Norwegian word, you may recall).
How many people who post here hate Obama and his minions even more than Muslims?
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:49amI should have expected the nitwits here to come out. Bunch of para-military wannabes sitting in their rocking chairs with a shotgun next to them…thinking when the riots come to their block as food becomes scarce they’ll hold off the horde with their “Remmy”…bunch of loud mouth fools acting tough. You’ll probably do nothing more than shoot your foot off running down the street yelling for the police.
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