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Want to Hear About The ‘Nine Harbingers’ One Author Claims Will Predict America’s Future?

The Harbinger: Author Jonathan Cahn Tells Glenn Beck About the Ancient Prophecy Described in his BookOn Tuesday evening, Glenn Beck hosted Jonathan Cahn, author of the provocative book, “The Harbinger,“ to discuss what is being called a work ”framed in fiction“ but based on ”fact.“ The premise of the book is that an ancient mystery harbors ”the secret of America’s future” and offers the world a a precognition of events that have recently come to pass. The book has become controversial for its claims.

Cahn, Senior Pastor and Messianic Rabbi of the the Jerusalem Center, Beth Israel, frequently appears on radio and television broadcasts around the country.  According to his bio, his teachings are “widely known for revealing the deep mysteries of God’s word and for the restoring of the new covenant message to its original biblically Jewish richness and power.”

The ancient mystery, according to Cahn, explains everything from the September 11 attacks to the financial collapse of 2008 and beyond. The author posits that God is sending the U.S. a “prophetic message” of what is yet to come, just as he did once in ancient Israel. Thus, according to the book, these same “Nine Harbingers” are now manifesting themselves here on U.S. soil.

“The scary thing is these same nine harbingers are happening on American soil,” Cahn told Beck during the interview.

According to the book’s description, The Harbinger’s 3,000 year-old mystery has managed to accurately foretell recent American events “down to the exact days” including the 2008 stock market collapse. The revelations, which the author maintains are completely factual, are woven through a fictional narrative “the reader will find hard to put down.”

The description continues:

The Harbinger opens with the appearance of a man burdened with a message he has received from a mysterious figure called The Prophet. The Prophet has given him nine seals, each containing a message about America s future. As he tells of his encounters with the Prophet, from a skyscraper in New York City, to a rural mountaintop, to Capitol Hill, to Ground Zero, the mystery behind each seal is revealed.

The author maintains that the same “warning patterns” were evident in ancient Israel and are now reproducing themselves in modern-day America. The mystery comprises nine Harbingers, or omens, which include:

  1. The Breach: The author posits that, because the U.S. was founded on “God’s word,” like Israel, we are blessed more than other nations. Conversely, if the populace turns away from God, (i.e. removing signs of God and prayer from public life) then, according to Cahn, the nation leaves itself vulnerable to losing those blessings.
  2. The Sign of a Terrorist: In this harbinger, the author claims that Israel was attacked by Assyrians, of which al-Qaeda is a disciple. The book paints this common thread as a repeating pattern.
  3. Fallen Bricks: This prophesy of course refers to the 9/11 attacks and symbolize the buildings which fell to ruin.
  4. The Tower: This symbol is meant to represent the verse from Isaiah: “we will rebuild.” Like Israel rebuilt the Second Temple, so, too will America grow stronger again.
  5. Gazit Stone:  Hewn translates to “gazit” in Hebrew. This harbinger is meant to symbolize the 20-ton quarried rock that was brought to Ground Zero. A ceremony took place over the rock in which Governor Pataki pronounced: ”Today, we, the heirs of that revolutionary spirit of defiance, lay this cornerstone and unmistakably signal to the world the unwavering strength of this nation, and our resolve to fight for freedom.”
  6. Sycamore: There is of course the Sycamore of Israel, which the book likens to the Sycamore struck and fallen at the corner of Ground Zero. According to the book, it also refers to the Isaiah 9:10 — “The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycamores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.”
  7. Erez Tree: The Erez, or Cedar, is stronger still. The book reveals that in November 2003 a crane hovering above Ground Zero lowered a Cedar tree into the corner space where the orignal Sycamore had been struck down. The Erez bears prominence in scriptures as a “tree of hope.“ A ceremony was conducted in the spirit of ”human defiance” after the new Erez was planted, but Cahn believes the participants were unaware of the significance.
  8. The Utterance: Or the “the vow”
  9. The Prophecy: This is ultimately what will set America’s course

Thus, according to The Harbinger, just as ancient Israel was attacked by the first “terrorists” and its walls fell down and its Sycamores were uprooted, so, too was America attacked, and its Sycamore uprooted.

Beck noted that what he finds amazing is that one does not need to be a scholar to find out if the book is prophecy or not. Rather, all one needs to do, according to Beck, is determine whether the message rings true.

 

“The message rings true,” he said.

 

Beck, while not endorsing the book’s prophetic claims, appreciated the broader message the author attempts to deliver and believes The Harbinger brings an important message people of all walks could benefit from.

Comments (101)

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  • KENTUCKIANAPATRIOT
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:05am

    @ENCINOM: YOU get crazier every day. & more vile. You have Never read a Bible–that is obvious–nor have you read The Bill of Rights–The Constitution–”endowed by their CREATOR…”that would be who?–How about every mention of “in the year of our Lord…”–Our “laws” come directly from The Bible–PERIOD. Thank God the commandment is “Thou shalt not MURDER”–instead of “kill”–there are times you know…not that I would condone “killing”–but the church is to be PROTECTED FROM the “Government”–& we sure have the God-given RIGHT to protect our God-given rights!

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 8:25am

      Friends, the Asyrians were sent by God to chastise the Israelites into repentance and a turning back to Him. Instead, they were defiant and in their pride ignored the warning and chose to rebuild/replace in their own strength and in so doing pronounce judgement on themselves-an were later destroyed. After 9/11 various US leaders unknowingly pronounced this same judgement on America.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 8:27am

      Actually, you never read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, there is no mention of the Creator in either. The Declaration of Independance is a call to arms that uses flowery language to convince men to commit treason against the Crown, so it makes sense that Jefferson would invoke a higher authority than the Crown to justify rebellion.

      “In the Year of our Lord” was not religious but standard writing convention at the time for expressing the year. We still use it, the latin translation is Anno Domini (A.D.).

      As for our laws, do not have one foundation, the earlier Code of Hammurabi with the notion of punishment fitting the crime is more of an influence on American law, as are the Statutes of Rome and the thinking of Greece.

      YOu need to read books other than the Bible and Barton’s pseudo history.

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    • PAPPY72
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:13pm

      @ENCIMON & @MrButcher – so in other words, any actual mention of God by the founders (such as in Thomas Paine‘s ’Common Sense’) in all their writings is just for the purposes of justifying the revolution to the riff-raff bible-thumping simpleton’s of society and does not actually show that the founders of the country believed in God (even though several signers of the Consitution were ministers or pastors). Is that your point of view?

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    • SaintzOfAk
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:19pm

      Why O why does anyone even address the ignorant Troll ECINOM. If his posts were on paper they would only be worth wiping my a$$ with. The guy is an absolute failure in life. The only reason he posts at all is to get a rile out of you, and to refill his cranium with a fresh batch of $h!t. He thinks because he can read that he’s somehow more intelligent and informed than others LMAO.

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  • RevRiles
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 11:29pm

    Keep the books coming. We need more textbooks to study in our conservative colleges, hey, we need more conservative colleges!

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:01am

      agreed

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    • SoNick
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:33pm

      i don’t know what school you went to but if you consider a book presented as “framed in fiction“ but based on ”fact“ as a “textbook”, you have serious problems.

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  • Bruce P.
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:50pm

    “In this harbinger, the author claims that Israel was attacked by Assyrians, of which al-Qaeda is a disciple.”

    So…according to this author, al’Qaeda, which subscribes to a radicalized version of Sunni Islam is somehow the disciples of an empire that fell over 2600 years ago and did not believe in anything resembling Islam.

    What utter nonsense.

    If this prophecy is so accurate, why is it he cannot predict coming events, only in retrospect?

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    • KENTUCKIANAPATRIOT
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:54am

      OH! You poor idiot! CAN you read? The author is actually God Almighty–Rabbi Cahn is quoting The Book of Isaiah! Which pat of this conflict do you fail to grasp?–What am I saying?! Isaac & Ishmael–Jacob & Esua–those of EDOM. When is it that you think this story–this supernatural hatred of Jews by their VERY jealous “neighbors” began? You don’t know that–it‘s safe to say you don’t know how it ends. Oh–& telling the future–see Daniel, Ezekiel–etc.–most pressing for you would be the words of Jesus–The Christ–He certainly told us of what was to come–try REVELATION!! GOG/MAGOG…Let’s see Turkey, Russia, Persia (Iran), Egypt–Syria–”Damascus shall be gone–in a night”–she shall be NO MORE–read NEWS today? Dear God–WAKE UP!!! The players are ALL on stage–how could ANYBODY miss it? & J.Cahn–just FACTS. See GBTV –J.cahn guest 6/26 & 6/27. PLEASE_THINK!

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  • DesdemonasCrew
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:37pm

    I saw the segment on GBTV. Very intriguing. Makes you think, especially if you have a belief in the Bible.

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    • MRMANN
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:04am

      Yes, it’s right up there with “The Bible Code” and others.

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  • momrules
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:29pm

    For all of you who have read the Harbinger and all that plan on reading it, you will be interested in the following link.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/obama-fulfills-isaiah-910-prophecy-again/

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    • staythecourse
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 11:49pm

      I’m haunted by the words obama wrote on the beam: “His official presidential business was a visit to the new World Trade Center building site where he signed a steel girder with a message ….’we remember, we rebuild, we come back stronger’”.. And it is not America that I see in his words. My first impression as I looked at his scribbled writing is that, “OMG…he’s not talking about America. He’s talking about the caliphate — “we remember” the defeat of the caliphate, “we will rebuild” the caliphate, and the caliphate will “come back stronger”. I cant shake the real powerful feeling that there is more to his mark on that beam than we all realize.

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    • AZMommy
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:04am

      Thanks for the link, the story was intriguing and frightening at the same time. I’d never heard of WND, but after checking them out, I think I’ll add them to my daily reading list.

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  • Freebird
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:07pm

    Had to put my glasses on when I saw the headline,thought at first it said something about the Nine Hamburgers that will predict America’s future.

    Was wondering what Michelle was gonna do about it.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:31pm

      I see that NostraDumbA** has brought another of his kind on his show hawking a book that predicts stuff that has already happened. I can do that too: based on the position of the planets Mars and Jupiter the economy is going to collapse during the Bush administration and the deficit is going to skyrocket. “And many of the West will die, and many will suffer during a great war.” Yeah, that’s easy. Maybe I can get on the show.

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    • Freebird
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:10am

      And yet why not a peep out of you about the CNN atheists “debating” youths doubting the existence of God?

      HYPOCRITE MUCH?

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  • Cymry
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:02pm

    Ask yourself this question as honestly as you can.

    If Jesus were to return right now, would it ruin the plans you have?

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  • Wolfgang the Gray
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:55pm

    I think I’ll buy it & read it. Even if it is a terrible book, it is better than all the left leaning crap out there.

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    • Plan B
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:23pm

      Just downloaded the Kindle version to my computer. Excellent book so far!!

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    • TROLLMONGER
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Yeah bc we all know how accurate all of those get rich quick end of the world predicting books have been in the past. Just another fool dishing out money for snakeoil. I just LOL at people like you because you fall for the fear mongering all the time.

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  • TROLLMONGER
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:51pm

    Great! Just another guy that thinks he is some sort of Nostrodamus. Typical Beck always bringing on the people that he wants to spark even more fear and paranoia into his already naive and gullible lemmings.

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  • MEYNC
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:50pm

    I read this book in back in Feb..and while I was stuck in an airport, awaiting to attend a family funeral, I couldn’t put it down…a great read! If you are interested in prophecy at all, and a good mystery novel, GET IT…I couldn’t put it down, I read it in like 2 days…and I’m not a reader…you have to get me on page one, or forget it…it was great!!! AND the facts about 9-11…freakin crazy…TRUE!!!

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  • WhiteFang
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:53pm

    There is a lot of crazy fiction out there, but this takes the cake. It is entirely fiction with no facts at all.
    The author is just making all this up, and trying to use the Bible in some twisted way to make a connection to, whatever seems to fit his idea. he might be able to sell some of his books to the uneducated sheeple but to most of us, it FAILS !

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:04pm

      eally? You want to go with that? Put your straightjacket back on crazy person. Its all there. Stick your head in the sand if you are scared, but you cannot deny this unless you are an utter fool.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:21pm

      Mr. BadDoggy,

      The wise one fears and is turning away from badness, but the stupid is becoming furious and self-confident.
      He that is quick to anger will commit foolishness, but the man of thinking abilities is hated. – Proverbs 14:16-17

      Stay calm my friend. :-)

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    • denise55
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:38pm

      First question, When was the book written?

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:04pm

      Before you start quoting the Bible, you ought to read it.

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    • TyrannyNoMore
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 11:39pm

      It is entirely fiction ? I think NOT friend. You can go ahead and tell yourself that, if it helps to ease your fears of what is to come.
      Lets examine just one of the harbingers for proof. The fallen sycamore tree did in fact fall at ground zero. But that is only part of the story. This tree fell within feet of St. Paul’s Chapel, at the corner of Ground Zero, barely missing the Chapel. What is significant about this Chapel? It is the very location where newly inaugurated, President Washington and Congress consecrated the United States to the Holy Trinity , on April 30, 1789. The old sycamore tree stood sentinel at this solemn ceremony which lasted several hours that day over 200 years ago. There is only one other nation that has been dedicated to God in such a manner at its inception…..Israel !

      Coincidence ???

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:45pm

    The Sign of a Terrorist: In this harbinger, the author claims that Israel was attacked by Assyrians, of which al-Qaeda is a disciple. The book paints this common thread as a repeating pattern.

    Al-Qaeda is a disciple of the Assyrians? Al-Qaeda was the data base of foreign fighters created by Bresinski at the state department in the late 1970′s. He admits this in his book. Can’t really see a connection to the Assyrians there.

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    • jwt
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:56pm

      Assyria skined the Jews and stuck them on posts to dry, What terriorist does that today? Why did Jonah kill himself rather then go and see them repent and be saved by our GOD?

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:05pm

      JWT – “Why did Jonah kill himself”

      There is no scriptural indication that Jonah killed himself.

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    • mtorres20
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 8:32am

      Jonah would have rather die than warn the Assyrians to repent. He was quite happy to be thrown off the boat to the “Fish” who swallowed him. But God will prevailed and the Fish dropped Jonah off so that he could warn the Assyrians. Once they repented Jonah was really p off. Its a great read.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:44pm

    Cahn puts some pretty strained constructions on the word “terrorism.” The Assyrians struck terror into the hearts of their enemies, but they were a state with a regular conscript army and a foreign-military policy, not small gangs of criminals carrying out small-scale attacks. They mounted full-scale military invasions, carried out sieges, fought pitched battles, took prisoners and sometimes negotiated temporary peaces. Take away the parallel between Assyria and latter-day jihadists and the whole case becomes a little flimsy, wouldn’t you say?

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  • jman-6
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:35pm

    johnny916 while your entitled to your own interpretations as misguided as they are please refrain from referring to Jesus as no messiah or an islamic figure as anyone with any brains knows that islam is not a religion it is a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY masquerading as one!!

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    • AnimalsAsLeaders
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:12pm

      How exactly would you define religion then? I’ve read both the Bible and many Islamic texts (the koran is one part of a larger set of holy islamic texts). There is nothing in the islamic texts that suggest it is any different (in terms of it being a “religion” or not) than the Bible. They both consist of stories talking about god, reference the same messiahs/prophets, tell stories of miracles, lay down laws/commandments to live by, etc. Just because Islam has been more successful in politicizing its texts‘ commandments doesn’t make it a “political ideology”.

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  • wzanesdad
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:30pm

    horsecrazy,
    Just curious…..given Obamas apperant hatred for all things jewish…..what reason do your relatives give for supporting him?

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  • WhiteFang
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:27pm

    Isaiah 9:10 is a prophecy relating to the ancient Nation of Judah/Israel. It refers to their repatriation of Jerusalem after the 70 years of captivity in Babylon. It has nothing to do with the modern country of the USA. It is embarrassing to witness the arrogance of the so-called “christian” community in the USA as they extrapolate Isaiah 9:10 prophecy as applying to them. Unbelievable!

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:07pm

      You need to buy the book, study the facts and rescrew your head back on because its fallen off. God is warnibg the United States in the same way he warned israel…Wake up from your slumber.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:11am

      We are falling into the same pattern that Israel fell into is what the book is trying to say.God is slowly lifting the umbrella of protection from America.

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  • jman-6
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:05pm

    As a christian scholar I can relate the similarities between Israel n America all the way up until the author claims the covenant GOD made with Israel as the same for America. While this is a common misunderstanding of the text, NO where in the bible did GOD make a covenant with America. While we made a covenant with GOD he is in no way obligated to reciprocate in kind. A great read as long as you go into it with that understanding. Hope this helps. GOD Bless

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    • jwt
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:49pm

      the story of the old testiment is about the history of how God treats all nations using Isreal as an example. the America is just another nation among many. OUR GOD is not a respecter of people or nations. However He loves his children.
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    • SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:09pm

      @ JWT…. That is not an accurate factual statement. Israel was a chosen nation who would bring forth the Messiah, his word, and the prophets. No other nation had the privilege they were blessed with neither had God revealed himself to the pagan nations like he did with Israel. In fact many nations stood as the antithesis of God’s people. Entire nations were to be completely destroyed leaving no living citizens such as the Amalekites who always represented the enemies of God.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:57pm

      And the Lord GOD always disciplines or punishes those closest to Him first. Then He punishes the goyim (nations).

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    • Satan is the antichrist
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:11am

      As a christian scholar, how is it that you don,t know who the United states is? God did make a covenant with America, because America is part of the House of Isreal. The United States is the tribe of Manasseh, and Great Britan is the tribe of Ephraim. You can read in Gen. 48:19 the Blessings promised to these two. Thats the reason the United states has been so blessed, because it was the fulfilment of that promise by God.

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    • Juniemoon
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 6:07am

      Before the tribes of Israel was father Abraham, we are part of that covenant and we were grafted into the branch.

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  • Jerseygalnny
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:04pm

    The Harbinger is an excellent book, and has been discussed frequently on Fundamental Refounding. Most have read it, and many have participated in discussions on the prophecies! God bless, JG

    http://fundamentalrefounding.ning.com/

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:02pm

    First off, America was NOT founded on “god’s word.” So the very premise of step 1, the Breach, is flawed. Matthew 6:34 should make any conservative shudder, “Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”—That sounds like Obama’s logic on debt and the economy.

    “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” is antithetical to the core of Christianity. Liberty is not a word found in the bible (at least not the original translations) and “pursuit of happiness” clearly runs afoul of the protestant work-ethic and chastity.

    Christianity does not preach some great existential freedom that America’s founding represents. It preaches blind faith in Jesus Christ and complete submission to the deity.

    Bottom line: SUBMISSION is not freedom!

    Cahn is a crank.

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    • jman-6
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:17pm

      WOW!! GOD is the author of freedom. Check your BIBLE the Book of Romans is a good start for you

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:20pm

      You are pretty ignorant. Nothing you say makes sense

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    • mensa141
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:21pm

      I can tell that you haven’t visited Washington to view the monuments. And you haven’t read the Constitution nor the Amendments. Pity you write the drivel you do without at least doing those things.

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    • Unix
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:00pm

      If America is not founded on God’s word, then how do you explain our Constitution and Declaration, based on principles of freedom, liberty? Someone mention Romans, and that would be a good place for you to start, then read Geo. Washington’s address and his farewell address, read Madison, Jefferson, etc…you obviously have not read much in your life…spout off your ignorance for all to see!

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:08pm

      Your post proves one thing…You cant fix stupid.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 9:34pm

      ‎”The Men who oppose a strong & energetic government are, in my opinion, narrow minded politicians, or are under the influence of local views. ”

      George Washington, Letter to Alexander Hamilton, July 10, 1787
      —————-

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:13pm

      If you drive differently in the rain so as not to wreck and drive another day, then you understand the concept of freedom through obedience. The issue is what you are obedient to. If its true, then you will find that, by obedience, you will “magically” have more options available to you than you would otherwise. Professional race car drivers are an even better example. The vehicles they drive are capable of amazing feats, but only by those most knowledgeable and obedient to the laws of physics, as determined by “nature’s God”. Science and religion appear to be mutually exclusive only because of our limited understadnign of both. IMHO

      The point is, we have a nature and there is a real way that things work. NO superstition. No hocus pocus. Not even “supernatural”, because none of God’s truth or power is outside of “nature”, as we understand it. Rather, our limited understanding of what comprises it, and what is possible by it, is severely limited by our myopic perception of reality. You know, 100 years ago, people seeing a TV might call it “demons in a box”. Even so, would they be wrong? Maybe not, if they saw say MSNBC, CNN, Bill Maher, Farakkhan, Obamas, Pelosi, etc….

      I get your passion, but the harshness won’t even win an ear, much less change a mind. Same applies to the endless “believers in name only” who love to condemn and come off just as bad. That is, unless it is somehow better to “win” all alone over being heard by many…

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:36pm

      The Constitution (which has no mention of God) and the Declaration are products of the enlightenment and the Freemanson. They owe they notions of freedom and liberty to the writings of Locke, Hume and Kant, not Mark, Matthew and Luke. The 1st Commandment and 1st Amendment are in conflict. While the Commandment demands worship to one God, the Amendment enshrines the right of the individual to worship which ever God he desires. No where does the Bible talk of the freedom of speech, of the press, to question the King or leaders.

       
    • MrButcher
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 11:19pm

      @Flagkeeper

      I like the way you think.

      Cheers!

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    • KENTUCKIANAPATRIOT
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:18am

      you are as nuts as ENCINOM–your “creator”–& just who would that be? Wait–that might be the wrong question for you–spawn of Satan is a possibility for you & your ilk………….so you have concluded that–what?–The Torah copied the laws of The U.S.? Before Americans stopped paying attention to the theft of our very building blocks–the U.S. LAWS–were taken from the Bible….morality–this country founded by Christians–dedicated to God–you RE ONE MESSED UP PERSON–try reading that Bible–try turning to Jesus–what if YOU are wrong? Bet you think traffic lights hold too long & those SLOW non-driving ^*&(((*&^$#$%^’s. Ponder ETERNITY………………….

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:59pm

    “ these people who try to act Jewish in other to convert Jews to Christianity”

    That is not what they are. Jesus was a Jew, do you think he was “acting”?

    Any Christian who makes fun of the Messianic Jews would probably be well-served to go figure out what day the sabbath occurs on, the actual, real, unrefutable, sabbath, and perhaps ponder the reminder in the freakin’ ten commandments about honoring the sabbath and keeping it holy.

    God ordered us to keep the sabbath holy, and Jesus said specifically that he did not come to take away from the law, but to add to it. It’s as clear as day, yet most Christians have abominated their religion with false sabbaths, all because some Roman emperor 1000 years ago decided he wanted all the pagans and christians to take the same day off work, hence, we got the pagan day, the “sun” day.

    It is amazing how pervasive and powerful the institutional imperative is.

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    • jman-6
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:11pm

      He didnt add to the law he allowed us to escape the wrath of GOD by Grace! We are Saved by Grace because we are undeserving. The law had us condemned already. GOD Bless

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:14pm

      The Kingdom of David was HEBREW! The Divided Kingdom was Israel (North, ruled by the House of Joseph [Tribes of Ephraim & Benjamin]) and Judah (South; Jerusalem; Tribe of Juda; Jew). Isreal was destroyed with the help of Judah with the Assyrians. Christ came from Nazareth of Samaria, being in Old Israel.

      Christ was Not A Jew; Christ opposed the Laws, Sacrifices, and Temple of the Jews.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:57pm

    can’t wait to read this book. Beck always endorses good reads.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:54pm

    The New Covenant… the Golden Rule… and the Lord’s Prayer (praying for the Kingdom of GOD on Eearth to exist)… these are the True Keys… and given Purpose… for if you add onto the Kingdom of GOD, in duality, GOD Must add you on to Heaven!

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:51pm

    Just another “author” selling past events as having been predicted, without ever predicting anything themselves to prove their thesis.

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  • freeberty
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:47pm

    Sounds like he went to the Perry Stone school of prophecy Throw enough ___ against a wall and something is bound to stick.

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  • Johnny916
    Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:46pm

    I have a question somewhat related to the article. My question is what do Christians think about Messianic Judaism? A majority of followers of Messianic Judaism are gentiles (Non-Jewish) and basically it is Christianity and has no relation with Judaism. I would like to know how Christians view these people who try to act Jewish in other to convert Jews to Christianity.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:56pm

      I am a messianic jew. the jewish half of my family thinks I am nuts they are obama voters and I am a traitor of sorts for following Christ. I adhere to the traditions of my Jewish faith while acknowledging Christ crucified for all. It is being able to see the fulfillment of the many feasts from the old testament which in my opinion is why so many Christians have a great deal of interest in Messianic Judaism it reveals more about their faith a deeper level. Many churches put all the focus on the new testament and not much on the old, it can be very enlightening but ti answer your question this Jew is not approved of but the secular jews and has been alienated sort of for my faith no big deal but it is taboo to my relatives. It is 100% the fulfillment of Judaism that is where you are mistaken.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:01pm

      I disagree with your last sentence. Some adherents of Messianic Judaism are ethnically Jewish, and many of them argue that the movement is a sect of Judaism. Jewish organizations, and the Supreme Court of Israel (regarding the Law of Return), have rejected this claim, and instead consider Messianic Judaism to be a form of Christianity. From 2003 to 2007, the movement grew from 150 Messianic houses of worship in the United States to as many as 438, with over 100 in Israel and more worldwide; congregations are often affiliated with larger Messianic organizations or alliances. In 2008, the movement was reported to have between 6,000 and 15,000 members in Israel and 250,000 in the United States. I don’t know of anyone “acting Jewish” to convert anyone. As for what do Christians think about it? If you believe in Jesus and what he did/is/stands for, its Christianity. Just a different sect, so I’m all for it. I can’t speak for ALL Christians, of course, but there is my opinion anyway.

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    • welovetheUSA
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:02pm

      What does it matter…..it does not. Christians..Jewish…we are all in danger.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Christianity is composed of Sects with various Theologies, so there is No One Answer… but I will give you my answer.

      The Sacrifice of Isaac has halted… to be completed in Joshua, known as Christ; The entire Old Testament is Prophecy… Fulfilled in the New Testament; The Laws of the Old… were completed in the Sacrifice upon the Cross, and the New Law given as Golden Rule with a New Covenant. NOTHING OF JUDAISM survives in True Christianity!

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:07pm

      WOW!!! You really ask some tough questions. It’s like asking, “How do you get rid of the Fuller Brush Man when he tries to sell you a brush”. I’ll have to get back to you on that one.

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    • Johnny916
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:14pm

      Still it is Christianity. When I mentioned that there non-Jews who act Jewish in order to convert Jews to Christianity are members of missionary groups who call themselves Messianic, Jews for Jesus, or whatever. There are all kinds of groups out there. The threat is real that Christians are wanting to convert the Jews and Christianity is very different from traditional Judaism. Jesus is not the Messiah or God. He is a Christian and Islamic figure who never fulfilled the requirements to the be the Messiah or was a prophet. The verses that Christians speak of prophesying Jesus are taken out of context.
      http://www.outreachjudaism.org/articles/rabbinic-53.html

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:29pm

      Moses… struck the Rock twice, that was to bring forth the Water of Salvation… for which GOD condemned him to die in the Desert and not enter the Promised Land. Two Slavations require the Messianic Presence TWICE!

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    • Johnny916
      Posted on June 26, 2012 at 8:37pm

      @LUKERW: How does relate to the promised Messiah or the Messianic age? In the bible it mentions the Messiah will fulfill the requirements right out and usher in the Messianic age. To go by what Christians and Muslims say about Jesus being the Messiah, ascending to heaven or wherever he is and that his return will usher in the Messianic age as promised. This is ridiculous because it goes against what the bible originally says. http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=165:what-are-the-criteria-that-judaism-has-established-about-the-messiah&catid=68:the-jewish-messiah&Itemid=481

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