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‘War on Women?’ How Much of Moveon.org’s New Ad is True?

Remember Moveon.org? They used to be the liberal website du jour before AttackWatch and ThinkProgress? Apparently they’re back, and this time with an ad that weighs in on the Sandra Fluke controversy. You can watch the full (extended cut) of the ad below:

There’s a problem, though – most of the quotes have either been personally withdrawn or may have never existed. Let’s go through them.

Quote #1. Foster Friess’ quote on aspirin: “The gals put it between their knees.”

No one would care who Foster Friess was if he wasn’t also a donor to the Rick Santorum campaign. Unfortunately for the Moveon crowd, Santorum himself thinks Friess went too far with this joke, describing it as “a bad off-color joke“ and ”stupid” in an interview with Greta Van Susteren. So if Friess has dated views on gender, they can‘t be hung around Santorum’s neck.

Quote #2. Pre-abortion ultrasounds are fine because a woman already made the decision “to be vaginally penetrated” before she got pregnant.

The ad only cites this quote as coming from a “Republican lawmaker,” and it’s easy to see why – no one knows who said it, or even if someone said it. It is, in fact, a line that a Democratic lawmaker in Virginia has attributed to an unnamed fellow lawmaker, with absolutely no way to verify that it’s true other than taking his word for it.

Quote #3. “The agenda of Planned Parenthood includes sexualizing young girls through the girl scouts.”

All we can say about this one is that it’s true. At least, it is in Indiana, where Planned Parenthood routinely sent representatives to administer a sex ed program to local Girl Scout chapters. Documentation from their own website supports this. And then there is the material that Planned Parenthood releases to children generally.

Quote #4. “The vast majority of abortions are matters of lifestyle convenience.”

Virginia lawmaker Todd Gilbert said this one, and apologized for saying it on the same day, repudiating his own remarks this way (as reported by ThinkProgress):

Individuals on both sides of this issue agree that it is tragic for all involved. I recognize that few women undergo the procedure lightly. It leaves scars, both mental and physical, that can last forever. I regret that my comments earlier today on the House floor were insensitive to that reality.

Quote #5. Children that are the product of rape are “horribly created gift” and women who are raped “should make the best of a bad situation.”

This one came from Rick Santorum in January of this year. It’s missing a good amount of context, as he’s responding to a hypothetical situation surrounding his own daughter, and does hedge somewhat before saying it. Watch the video below:

What is more curious about this quote is the question of what it has to do with hating women. At no point in the full clip, or in the section cited, does Santorum ever suggest that women are responsible for being raped, or say anything against women at all. In fact, he implicitly accepts the idea that the child was unasked for. So Moveon‘s ad seems to categorically imply that any women who decides to have a baby after being raped and getting pregnant is a traitor to her sex. Some would say that‘s just as extreme a position as Santorum’s.

Quote #6. “Why should the government force you to insure for contraceptives? Are they going to have us have to ensure for toothpaste? I mean, this is ridiculous.”

This quote comes from Rudy Giuliani and was cut out of the non-extended and more widely released ad. And it’s easy to see why – Giuliani’s point may strike a little too close to home for some people. In fact, it’s exactly the same argument that the Blaze’s Will Cain raised in conversation with Sandra Fluke on CNN. Are Cain and Giuliani part of a “war on women,” or are they making a valid point?

Quote #7. “If we’re going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.”

This is one of the lines that Rush Limbaugh apologized for, but even at the time he said it, it was obvious that he didn’t mean it. He was, to use his phraseology, “illustrating absurdity by being absurd.” Irony and misogyny are scarcely synonymous.

Quote #8. “If we took away womens’ right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democratic President. It’s a personal fantasy of mine.”

These words came from a woman – as the ad itself admits – namely, Ann Coulter. Coulter’s famous for wanting to restrict voting rights on various bases other than gender in order to push the electorate in a more right-leaning direction. She has even said she’d gladly give up the right to vote herself for this to happen. Is Coulter a self-hating woman? And more to the point, have any conservative lawmakers actually proposed this idea?

In short, the ad stretches the truth at best and outright fabricates an alarmist spin at worst. It’s vaguely reminiscent of another ad Moveon released in 2008, called “Not Alex”:

This, in turn, inspired a raft of parodies like the one below:

Comments (93)

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:55pm

    “At no point in the full clip, or in the section cited, does Santorum ever suggest that women are responsible for being raped, or say anything against women at all. In fact, he implicitly accepts the idea that the child was unasked for. So Moveon‘s ad seems to categorically imply that any women who decides to have a baby after being raped and getting pregnant is a traitor to her sex. Some would say that‘s just as extreme a position as Santorum’s.”
    No but he does at least imply HE would prefer if women chose to bring a pregnancy resulting from rape to term. The moral outrage of MOST pro-choice (yes, pro-abortion, inasmuch as we favor the availability of the option) individuals comes from the suggestion that many on Santorum’s side of the aisle make that such decisions they would will for women ought to be COMPULSORY, and/or the suggestion that aborting a pregnancy resulting from rape is in any way less moral than the choice to have the child. Having the child is a woman’s personal decision, but those women who choose not to bring pregnancy, any pregnancy, but especially a pregnancy resulting from rape, to term are not by any means less moral because of their alternative choice.

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:44pm

      Amazing, what about the WAR ON UNBORN WOMEN? what about that?

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    • meltzen
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:30pm

      If a women becomes pregnant with child…..do you punish the child (abortion) for the sins of the father?

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:57pm

      did we expect anything less? the left loves to take things out of context or make things up and assign it so ‘hidden code’ in order to promote their propaganda. The people who listen to them will never change their mind no matter what you say or what the context is. tho the move on crowd we are evil monsters looking to opress or ignorant hillbillies to stupid to take care of our own lives. moveon’s are the worst of the libs because they can only deem themselves worthy of leadership and life. lets quit trying to negotiate and reason with our enemies. lets quit excusing their lies by saying “they mean well”. lets quit letting them paint us into a corner and forcing us to defend against made up charges and lies. the person who plays by the rules against a cheater…LOOSES!

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:11pm

      The The Third Archon says, “Having the child is a woman’s personal decision, but those women who choose not to bring pregnancy, any pregnancy, but especially a pregnancy resulting from rape, to term are not by any means less moral because of their alternative choice.”

      Thank you Third Archon for your support of a woman’s right to choose. But your mistaken if you think Santorum supports that. He’s against abortion even in cases of rape, incest or threat to the mother’s life.

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:27pm

      The power of the video is having women simply state what old, white, Republican males are saying about women and birth control.

      The Republicans seem to have forgotten that women vote too. Good luck guys in the next election!

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    • bertr
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 12:11am

      @Jzs
      well im against abortion, because i can‘t say for sure it’s not murder. But that defiantly does NOT mean i won’t to make it illegal. And i certainly do not look down on anyone who has had an abortion(except maybe as someone who uses it for nothing more then a means of birth control repeatedly and has become completely emotionally detached about the procedure)
      Worse case, if it is in fact murder, and a mother wants to abort her own child, how is the government really going to stop it. That’s a pretty serious and personal decision and its pretty futile and even arrogant to think we can control that with a law even if we wanted to.
      Good thing now is, at least for now, society agrees for the majority, that after a child is born it should be protected. But that’s an unsure future as are a lot of things when dealing with eugenics.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 4:14am

      FABRICATED ISSUE to take focus off of OBAMA’S Miserably failed Presidency.

      NO ONE is saying women can’t get/use Contraceptives. ALMOST EVERYONE is saying Obama can’t force Churches to pay for pills against their belief. IF Obama is able to DICTATE what our Churches can/can’t do…who’s next? ALL OF US. THIS IS ABOUT FREEDOM.

      REMINDER: WE own the government. WE are the source of income for Govt. Govt does NOT generate any money. IT is OUR MONEY that gov uses to ENSLAVE US. Does anyone honestly think that IF OBAMA gets re – elected that he won’t become a Dictator? THINKABOUT IT. HE already goes around Congress, he doesn’t believe in OUR CONSTITUTION and he is trying his best to break our First Amendment Law. THIS IS ABOUT taking FOCUS off of his failure.

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    • burnbabylon
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 5:50am

      Suppose that you are the Captain of a ship. While at sea you are boarded by pirates. The pirates happen to to have with them a hostage from some other act of piracy. When they depart they leave this hostage on your ship. Do you toss the hostage overboard?
      Let’s suppose that you do. The hostage, though bound hand and foot, makes it to shore. A politician passes by and sees the hostage. He decides, since it was someones intent that the hostage die, to leave the hostage there, bound hand and foot, to die. (It’s not like the hostage can vote.) Would you vote for that politician?

      Again, you are the Captain of the “Lust Boat #XXX.” In the night you pass another ship of you fleet. You invite the Captain of the other ship on board for a party. During your dalliance a passenger slips onboard. Do you throw the passenger, again, tied hand and foot, overboard?
      Do you expect the general public to provide security for your parties?
      When throwing someone overboard do you think everyone should pay for the rope?

      BTW What do you feel should be done with pirates?

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    • VigilantGuardShark
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 10:25am

      In the movie ‘Rob Roy’, the title character’s wife is raped and becomes pregnant from that act. When Rob Roy finds out and his wife says she’ll get an abortion if he wants he replies, “It’s not the babe that needs killing”, referring to the rapist. My feeling exactly.

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    • wingnut1955
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 9:40pm

      Roe v. Wade is the reason that we can not have the rape exception. Remember that Jane Roe said that she was rapped, but later said that she lied and that her lawyer knew it was a lie. As long as we have lawyers like that we can’t have any exceptions. The lawyer was lauded and praised, but she should have been disbarred for her part in that lie. I, also, feel that the chief witness lied the case should be thrown out. If it is true for death sentences, then it should be true for Roe v. Wade.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:21am

      This whole issue being brought up now is a smoke screen. Its a left wing issue brought up to distract from the 9.1% unemployment (Gallup) 15% underemployment (U6) and a true annual inflation rate of 8.1% according to the American Institute of Economic Research.

      Lets not forget the violation of War Powers Act, his violation of the 1st Amend, violating the religious freedom of the Catholic Church, placing the Vatican on list of “Suspected Money Laundering”, his attacks on doctors, bankers, Christians, Jews, conservatives, oil, coal, lawsuits against Arizona and Alabama immigration laws, Op Fast and Furious, extra-constitutional czars, 219 new fed regs that will cost Americans over $400B in next 10 years, failed bailouts and stimulus plans, spending more money than any man in history.

      Dont forget alienating friends like Israel and England while using American money and military to help Al queda in Lybia, Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Tunisia, and Hamas in Gaza.

      Most of all, lets not forget obama is a pathological liar, a racist, a social justice radical Marxist, hell bent on the destruction and transformation of the United States.

      That is why this story about contraception was created. To distract from the truth.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:36am

      Until men have a ******, they have no right to make any decision for a woman.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on March 18, 2012 at 2:49pm

      PRRedlin… “Until men have a ******, they have no right to make any decision for a woman.”

      You are one sick, delusional lib, chick. You have a real bad attitude & should be over at PMSNBC or Media Matters. Men have a right to be concerned about their unborn children, trying to save them from baby murderers like yourself.

      This isnt about womans health…Its a left wing issue brought up to distract from the 9.1% unemployment (Gallup) 15% underemployment (U6) & a true annual inflation rate of 8.1% according to the American Institute of Economic Research.

      Lets not forget the violation of War Powers Act, his violation of the 1st Amend, violating the religious freedom of the Catholic Church, placing the Vatican on a list of “Suspected Money Laundering”, his attacks on doctors, bankers, Christians, Jews, conservatives, oil, coal, lawsuits against Arizona & Alabama immigration laws, Op Fast & Furious, extra-constitutional czars, 219 new fed regs that will cost Americans over $400B in next 10 years, failed bailouts & stimulus plans, & spending more money than any man in history,.

      Dont forget alienating friends like Israel & England while using American money and military to help Al queda in Lybia, Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt & Tunisia, & Hamas in Gaza.

      Most of all, lets not forget obama is a pathological liar, a racist, a social justice radical Marxist, hell bent on the destruction & transformation of the United States.

      Its all about democrats hiding from the

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on March 18, 2012 at 2:51pm

      Its all about democrats hiding from the truth. Like always.

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  • justasurvivor
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:53pm

    Do they just somehow believe there are no women Republicans? No, there’s no war on women. Just a war on progressive women – against their lies. And against progressive men – against their lies.
    Ah, heck. The war is against the father of evil and lies. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
    I remember the day everything seemed dark, and I cried out to God, “Things are so bad, I have nowhere to turn but to You.” And then I realized what a foolish thing to say that was. Had I turned to God FIRST instead of last after I’d messed up everything, maybe things would never have become so bad! Instead of it being an awful place, it is an AWEful place to be to turn to the Creator God in the first place.
    I’m a Republican woman, and I know who my war is against.

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    • Kathleen
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 2:36am

      It‘s Obama’s war on women. He doesn’t want women to procreate. People cost too much. It‘s Agenda 21 Population Control That’s why this ridiculous need for contraceptive cover.

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  • hugo65hsv
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:52pm

    There‘s no War On Woman at large that’s liberal emotional, victim mentality, entitlement, feel good Bull Sh_t.. There’s a War On Irresponsible Woman and their Mangina counter parts.. Clearly all liberals I might add.. And so there should be.. When are the liberal woman going to start talking about the additional rights and protections they have under the law, lower prison sentences they receive for like crimes as males, preferential treatment in schools and colleges, special treatment on the job, unbalanced treatment of males in family courts, abuse shelters that don’t allow abused men, higher number of male deaths on the job, them not being drafted, proving their fem-stats with facts, the war on boys in the school system, they won’t (it doesn’t serve them).. All this and more an still expecting a seat in the life boat, chivalry and their contraceptives paid for by tax dollars.. Wake up men of America and get out and vote.. These ingrates will be and there goal is to finish making you disposable, and make this a new utopia socialist country along the way….

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  • lukerw
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:47pm

    The difference between Man & Woman… is a Chromosome! Can you War upon a Chromosome?

    Do not be suckered into a Non Existent Conflict!

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on March 18, 2012 at 10:44am

      Someone needs some man on man love to make them feel better.

      After all, it’s just a chromosome.

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:43pm

    Regulation of Geoengineering aka CHEMTRAILS
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFwv3u9gWZ8&feature=like-suggest

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:41pm

    Sheriff Joe on Obama Investigation: We Have Standing and Tons of Information; Media Silent
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-on-obama-investigation-we.html

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  • Carol1955
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:38pm

    As a woman, this ad really makes me angry. They imply women in general support these lies. Somehow they convince themselves that having the “right” to contraception is equivalent to having it for free, anything less is an attack. What makes anyone think the government has the right to tell any company to provide any product for free! Think about the logic, if contraception is such a “right”, it must be provided free to every woman, and if that contraceptive fails for whatever reason, obviously an abortion should be provided free as well as it has become a common form of birth control. This is their goal.

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    • Fredhead
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:26pm

      If, IF,, you were to carry this line of thinking and logic, to it’s logical conclusion, ( Not trying to sound like Mr. Spock) If contraceptive devices were mandated by the government’s decree that any company, or religious based health care facility, hospital, clinic, should provide contraceptive devices for reasons other than that of a health need for a woman,,
      Does this mean that, you could, say,,, the government,,,,,

      The word Pimp comes to mind.

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  • jamestoms
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:33pm

    Women, demos in particular deserve what they get, baby killers, sharia law can’t come to soon!

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:32pm

    real men dont care about progressive whiney women or thier issues…

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:32pm

    If MoveOn is so concerned with defending women’s rights, why don’t they crusade ( oops ) for Muslim women ? Let me guess….

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:31pm

    Liberals are going to direct your attention to ANYTHING other than Obama’s record.

    Don’t fall for it.

    And I am talking to YOU TOO – BLAZE ————- Don’t fall for it or you are just HELPING them win.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Agree. The Democrats have to run a Distraction Campaign since they can’t win on their record of accomplishments ! Just hope it doesn’t include more of their Occupations or some riots . These guys operate under a different code of conduct which makes even Dirty Politics look clean !

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    • TerryDo
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:44pm

      It is definitely a diversionary plan and so is the “ Violence Against Women Act”, a bill New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer is pushing forward as a political tool.

      Women are always being used one way or another and Schumer has the gall to pretend that he wants to defend all women, and yet; Schumer in 2007 saying Obama should ‘take a 2X4 to Hillary to make her drop out’ An Act of Violence Against a Woman, most definitely!!!

      Violence Against Women includes intimidation and Schumer is the master of intimidation just ask Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

      Schumer who calls Flight Attendants ‘bxtch’ when they enforce FAA regulation, definitely intimidation by the Schumer the Democratic Bully.

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  • matinva
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:24pm

    What I find hilarious is that Movealonglittledoogies.org actually thinks it’s relevant. They have one singular accomplishment in the years of their existence; nothing. Let’s face facts. They are a disorganized litter of intellectual fly-weights who have never accomplished anything in their puny lives and the jealousy and anxiety that triggers causes them to flail around like worms on hot asphalt. And, not surprisingly, the result is exactly the same. You see the mess as you walk down the street but realize the next rain will clean things up nicely.

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:18pm

    Tell me women is there something wrong with raising your sons up to the child’s dad? Or better yet to the Father? If not what are you raising them to? Ask a Progressive who you should be raising your children up to, and therein you will find your answer to who has a war on women.

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:15pm

    hmm, ron paul doesnt want govt controlling women.

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:51pm

      Yeah, he‘s the only one that won’t energize the Democratic base on this issue. You think the conservative pundits would make their people aware of that. A Santorum nod would fire them up big time and drive the independents back to Obama.

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    • youdidthis
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:44pm

      personally , i dont care who it is…

      as long as follows the constitution and wants what is best for americans

      tired of the bs lies, constant flip flops, and the total govt control.

      the party comes first.

      millions of americans are really dam pi$$ed off at the loss of freedoms and liberties…

      that and being financial slaves to the nwo…one world govt sobs.

      when you see troops march and militias by the 1000′s forming,

      you better turn off the tv and see what the he77 is going on…?

      sheep ,
      people who pay to be fluked…

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    • youdidthis
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:45pm

      party comes first , to he77 wit the rest.

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  • Yachtsman
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:15pm

    I‘m as conservative as they come and certainly don’t believe there is a War On Women but OMG can Santorum be any better at shooting himself in the foot? How many toes does he have left.

    This is not the year for “social issues”. If we don‘t beat Obama the LEAST of the problems will women’s health care.

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    • Fredhead
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:35pm

      To YACHTSMAN,
      Q,? did you even bother to watch the Santorum interview?, The full interview? His full answers, IN CONTEXT??? How did he shoot himself in the foot?
      —INFILTRATOR ALERT—
      you are no conservative, sir, maam, small child,, whatever the case may be.

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  • sharra
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:09pm

    This whole argument is for politics only. We as a nation are 16 trillion in debt, fighting 2 wars and problems with Iran, gas prices are high and that raises food prices and everything else, the politicians want me to be worried about what goes on in one college students life as she cannot afford birth control so all of us are expected to chip in. Get Real bury this story it takes our eyes off the ball and they have already lost on the real issues

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  • blownaway
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:09pm

    Look no further than how the left treated Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman… unbelievably mean spirited!

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    • right
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:21pm

      But that’s OK cause they are Republicans. You just can‘t say bad stuff about the Dem’s women.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Incredibly close-minded. You 2 have never read anything bad about Hillary or Michelle O.? It’s O.K. to be a cheerleader to the right but try not to be so blatant in your lies.

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:09pm

    How about Freedom of Religion? The Communists are hijacking the narrative! This is contrived and calculated.

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  • margiericco
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:05pm

    I love Rick Santorum because he gets it! The sexual revolution has not been good for women….

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:03pm

    HEADLINE: WAR ON WOMEN no such thing. this is an invention by the leftist.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:03pm

    The Dems, being a little “slow” and unrealistic, out of touch with most of the country, haven’t noticed or will face the fact that this “war on women” strategy, along with their other very old playbook strategies that worked in the past aren’t working this time around – too many of us have finally awakened and been educated about liberalism and their tactics, lies, etc. Plus, the country has been turning towards being prolife instead of prochoice, thank God. I almost feel sorry for them….uh…well, no..maybe not —– continue with the backfires, Lord !!! More !!!!

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:02pm

    It was a Progressive who convinced women to smoke, and many more things. So who’s the one with a war on women?

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:57pm

    The left took apart the 2 women candidates the Repubs put up, and allowed sexist attacks on Hillary Clinton. The Left also wants to teach homosexuality, sex, and everything else starting in first grade. But, conservatives are “Sexualizing” girls? Hollywood is 99% liberal, but conservatives are sexualizing?

    Up is Down, Red is Blue, Obama is Smart? It is all upsidedown. Next we will be told, “There is no Santa”.

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  • arfarb55
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:56pm

    ‘WAR ON WOMEN?’ HOW MUCH OF MOVEON.ORG’S NEW AD IS TRUE? None!

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:47pm

    Let me get this right, we run a woman for VP of the US and WE are anti-women? Get real.

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:04pm

      It’s going to be what they run on.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:26pm

      JUST: Yes. That and the “evil corporations/ capitalism/ bankers/ CEOs/ Wall Street ” and of course, the ever-popular Democrat populist ” anti-evil rich ” rhetoric. Ever since the 2010 elections, Mr. Uniter has become Mr. Divider. The ship of state has sailed way Far Left with Comrade Obama and his International Lefties at the helm ……

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:07pm

      Yeah the diehard lefties eat all that stuff up. They’re not budging no matter what. I think the biggest problem for the GOP will be those moderate women who for the most part don’t agree with abortions except in cases of rape and health issues. Or women like my mom who are against abortions totally, but are really against the government having any say over it. Most everyone here is against it, but the fact is unborn babies are inside a women‘s body and they don’t want the government there.

      Of course it doesn’t matter anyway. The GOP has totally alienated the Libertarian base of the party.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on March 17, 2012 at 2:58am

      It’s not a merely a question of visuals, it’s a question of attitude and ideas.

      And Palin didn’t have a clue.

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