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Was 14-Year-Old New Jersey Girl Suspended for Wearing Confederate Flag Shirt to School?

Confederate Flag Shirt | New Jersey Girl Torri Albrecht Suspended | Kreps Middle School in East Windsor

Torri Albrecht‘s mother claims that her daughter’s sweatshirt with the image of the Confederate Flag was the reason why the 14-year-old was suspended from Kreps Middle School in East Windsor, New Jersey. Jane West tells the Times of Trenton that the school has overstepped its boundaries, and violated her “daughter’s right to free speech”:

“Jane West says she’s thinking about withdrawing her daughter, Torri Albrecht, from the school even as district officials insist that the flag — viewed by many as a racially charged symbol — was not the reason the girl was suspended.

‘They’re saying that now because they know they really went too far this time,’ West said. ‘If there wasn’t a problem with the sweatshirt, why did the vice principal call at 10 after 8 on Monday to demand that I bring a change of clothes for my daughter?’

‘He told me he had a bunch of students and a bunch of teachers come into his office to say they were disturbed by it,’ she said.”

The family, originally from Virginia, told News 12 New Jersey that they consider the flag to be part of their heritage. West went on to equate her daughter wearing the flag to “Indian kids” wearing “turbans,“ or Jewish kids wearing ”their yarmulkes.”

West told the Times that before heading to school on the day of the suspension she called her daughter’s cell phone to tell her not to follow any orders to turn the sweatshirt inside out. When she got to the school she was told that her daughter had been given a one-day suspension.

According to CBS News New York, school officials said that no student was suspended for wearing an inappropriate shirt, but would not clarify on why Albrecht was disciplined due to student confidentiality policies. District Superintended Edward Forsthoffer told the Times that the district has a dress code which bans any clothing that causes a substantial disturbance in school.

West denounces allegations that the Confederate Flag represents racism more so than heritage. “My older daughter is biracial. For Torri this was about expressing herself. It was about saying ‘I’m from the South and I’m proud of it.’ She didn’t do it to cause hurt feelings,” West told the Times.

The superintendent insists that despite West’s claims, no ban was issued on the shirt.

West said she plans to eventually send her to daughter to Virginia to live with her sister. In the meantime, West told the Times that she is considering home-schooling prior to moving the girl back south.

Comments (192)

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  • ares338
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:16pm

    She’s a 14 year old girl for craps sake; they all have a lousey attitude. The shirt is a non issue with me. There are a lot more things to worry about than that.

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    • hangfire
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:04am

      Too bad it wasn’t a t-shirt with Che Guevara…

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    • TX_45_ACP
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:13am

      Che who? ;)

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:58am

      che……………. some comm..er socialist from South Amerika

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    • MONIFICENT
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:41pm

      Exactly why do this and really a teachers have so much on their plates why add more you have no idea what its like to work in an inner city school. Um two girls sometime three per class
      have babies or babies on the way .drug dealers, drug user , fights in the hall, metal detectors for pete sake plus you have wonder if that “trouble lil white kid” in the back is filp out and go on a shooting rampage.

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    • black9897
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Living in a small town in VA where it’s mainly country/redneck people you see this flag all the time. Shouldn’t be a big deal at all.

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  • KevinLSmith1981
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:14pm

    Sorry, they should have explained that is not the confederate flag, nor was that design ever a national flag of the confederacy. that is the confederate battle flag flown by troops and veterans (after reconstruction) to celebrate confederate hero day (now memorial day) to give thanks to the people who fought and died for the south during the civil war, who were black, white, native, jew, catholic, free or not.

    Now it is a cultural symbol, of either heritage, stubborn independence, or misused by bigots.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:36pm

      So what! It could offend blacks and Jews.. Put her to death for a violation of the hate laws! There’s got to be an ounce of hate in her heart! Death death death to all that could be guilty of hate~!

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    • Maji
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:45pm

      Should have washed it and sent her back the next day with it on!!
      Then you would know.

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    • Ohello
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:23pm

      This is a terrific example of why compulsory education mandated and funded by the Government needs to be eliminated. Private schools can mandate uniforms, people can chose to pay to attend or not, and no one needs to have their money confiscated to pay property taxes for school systems in which refusal to pay means confiscation of your home. Poor people who wish to attend schools, attend the private schools who will be required to have so many slots gratis or pro bono similar requirements for attorneys to do pro-bono work.
      At least this way, taxpayers can control where, who, and curriculum which is fed to their kids and not be subject to indoctrination which is the new norm for public schools.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:26pm

      The first known observance of a Memorial Day-type observance was in Charleston, South Carolina on May 1, 1865; freedmen (freed slaves) commemorated 257 Union soldiers had been buried at Hampton Park, and the freedmen labeled the gravesite “Martyrs of the Race Course”. It had nothing to do with the traitors and racist Southerns.

      The Confederate Flag needs is not sign of a failed culture built on the enslavement of others. The South was not a melting pot of freedom, it was a backward society that had to be forced out of the dark ages. In many regards it is still a backward place were religion has replaced science and logic and where old bigotries hide beneath smiles.

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    • IronSights
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:33pm

      I think it’s sad that she has no arms. ;-)

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:36am

      LOL Ironsights!

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:12am

      If the school said it wasn’t about her hoodie then I suggest she go back with it on and if they suspend her again then we have our answer.

      I remember kids in high school wearing shirts with confederate flags on them a lot. Of course I went to school in Tennessee :P But I never recalled it being a problem.

      Better yet let the girl wear huntin’ camo to school and see if they ban that…

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    • Marci
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:47am

      Stupidity. I believe the school is wrong—but at the same time, I seem to detect mom making a political statement through her daughter. She called her while she was heading to school and told her not to obey orders to turn the shirt inside out? So she knew it would be a problem. Again, don’t agree with the school at all, but agree with the mom even less because she apparently knew it would be an issue and she chose to use her daughter to make the statement.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:20am

      I’m a Black man who grew up in the South. I currently live in Ohio and I fly 4 banners in my front yard. Old Glory raised above the banner of the State of Ohio, followed by the The Confederate banner, and finally the Ohio State Buckeye banner.

      The Confederate flag raises a lot of emotions in people. There are also a lot of versions of origins. I think I’ll stick with the idea that it was a borrowed idealism of the Scottish cross banner of St Andrew, without the Red Cross of St. Patrick, and was a symbol of the fight for independence and freedom. That Southern Plantation owners claimed it as their symbol without knowledge in that they were opposing the American Union, and had adapted the flag to their ideals of monarchy, and with Great Britain.

      The Scots were considered rebels and treasonous to the Brits in their fight for freedom in the same way the 13 colonies revolted against GB were. The adoption by the KKK of the banner is a perversion of the ideals of the Cross of St Andrews, but the original ideals were anything but a symbol of slavery and racial divide. It was a symbol of Freedom.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:48am

      It’s know has the Rebel Flag not the Confederate Flag to most who fly. It is a symbol of defiance,a symbol of independence,and a symbol of southern pride. Yankees and liberals see it as the flag that represented slavery……Wrong Lincoln told the soutrhern states that had slaves that they could continue the practice before the Civil War broke out. So why did the Democrats of the south go to war,because the war was fought on taxation,regulation,and discrimination. The Union was taxing the south and using the money to build the North. There wasn’t an equal division of tax allocation.
      Taxation without representation……sound fimilar? Think about the billions and billion going out of our country to prop up foriegn nations why Americans are homeless.,Think about the wars being fought at the behest of the U.N. ……..The old timers say the south will rise again It will but it won’t just be the south it will be people across this nation.

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:04am

      By no means should the girl have been suspended for wearing that sweatshirt. However, it seems like the mother was deliberately trying to start something: “West told the Times that before heading to school on the day of the suspension she called her daughter’s cell phone to tell her not to follow any orders to turn the sweatshirt inside out.”

      Makes me think that the daughter had been in trouble before some some issue and had been warned, and the mother decided to push the issue anyway.

      I’m also curious why the fact that her daughter is biracial is brought up. Is she saying she’s half-black? Again, it seems she’s making excuses because she knew her daughter would be getting in trouble. Parents need to stop using their kids to start fights, IMO.

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    • sapper
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:38am

      actually, it was flown on the second and third national confederate flags in the upper corner where stars and blue field are found on U.S. Flag. A total of 4 national confederate flags were flown. The “Southern Cross” or “St. Andrews Cross” is what most people think was the confederate flag. In reality it was the Battle flag of the army of Northern Virginia and was also the Confederate Naval Jack……was also used by Russia at one point and variations of it have been used for centuries. It is a symbol of southern pride, symbol of rebellion and symbol of the confederacy. Much loved by southerners, myself included, it has nothing to do with slavery and bigotry but rather the simple idea that the United States government had no right to tell the states what to do and that leaving the union was something the founders actually put into the constitution as the ultimate check on federal power. The United States actually invaded a soveriegn nation in attacking the confederate states. Rebellion against tyranny is what the battle flag represents, not hate and racism as the left so loves to argue.

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    • patrioticdale
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:49am

      @IRONSIGHTS
      Best posts on this article. I think I sprayed some soda on my keyboard laughing. Now I have to clean up my keyboard. Great way to make fun of something so ridiculous as this article.

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    • Bill in Texas
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:19am

      techengineer11

      Bless your heart! I’ll pray for you.

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    • Libertarian Metalhead
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:09pm

      @ENCINOM, when you label the South as “backwards” because of relgion, does that also include the South’s rather large African-American population the overwhelming majority of which are of devout, many times fanatical religious faith? You know if you’re going to slam an entire geographic region you have to include ALL its residents with your “politically correct racism”.

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    • MooseyStuff
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:05pm

      @techengineer11 So we should put her to death because she offended someone? Yeah that’s a real constructive solution, does that mean we can put you to death for STUPIDITY.

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  • phillipwgirard
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:06pm

    nowadays you can‘t say or do anything that isn’t twisted into some sort of racism, if only people would look up the definition, there are 2. pick one and be on your way

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:16pm

      First: do people today know what a dictionary is?
      Second; is that one from column A or column B

      Seriously, do we really expect products of the current educational system under the NEA to understand anything at alll?

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:57pm

      i totally agree that the majority of students have no idea what a dictionary is and I am starting to wonder what signatures will look like since many schools don’t even teach basic cursive and stop at basic elemenary printing. nea has to go

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    • hillbilly patriot
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:20pm

      This reminds me of the article about the kids wearing white t-shirts. Listen up folks, not everyone is a racist! If she had stabbed a minority with it on, they claim it. She didn’t. She went to school.

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    • MONIFICENT
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:27pm

      I really as an adult could care less , but let the lil darling wearing this shirt tell shay shay jenkins that it is not racist and she might punched in the mouth. Then of course it’s another case of an innocent being ravged by blacks. Fact: teenagers have less frontal lobe devlopment than adults which equals poor impulse control. And really mom why would want to do this to your 14 daughter she has to go to school with kids who think the flag is racist and therefore your daughter is racist. The school is then faced with choice to ask the girl to turn the shirt inside out or send her home to keep her getting hurt and be accused of racism what should they do. Oh just you know i was teacher. I‘m just saying don’t feed the … oh i’m one them .

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  • B-Neil
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:05pm

    It would have been OK, if she had that as-ho-e cha on her shirt with the honorable flag of the south. Ya have to admit the shirt was black. She has to get points for that. CARRY ON McDUFF

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:04pm

    Now if she would’ve worn the first Confederate National flag (the stars and bars), nobody would have noticed. Either way, I say it’s still American as apple pie.

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:14pm

      LOL! I made a series of Confederate flags years ago, and I gave my Dad the First National stars and bars. He flew it on the 4th of July (when Vicksburg fell and Lee lost at Gettysburg). Some lady drove by as he had it flying on his house and asked where she could get one of those “Betsy Ross” flags. When my dad told her what it was, she stormed off, got into her car and peeled rubber. Too funny!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:06pm

      It IS as American as apple pie…and most people are extremely ignorant when it comes to the Confederate Battle Flag…I used to fly one on the antenna of my Road Grader, and a co-worker came up to me one day and told me that a lady had asked him why I flew a CANADIAN FLAG from my antenna!!!!!!
      I now wear one on the left sleeve of my riding jacket….nearest my heart.
      To hell with you damn yankees and scalawags!

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:58am

      Skrewed Retiree . . . You sure know how to have a good time.

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  • phillipwgirard
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:03pm

    oh the poor sensitive people that were disturbed by it. too dam bad they were disturbed by it, the flag hasn’t been outlawed, she’s only guilty of poor taste

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    • ShyLow
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:06pm

      She needs a FUBU shirt and a black boyfriend

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  • barber2
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:00pm

    Oh, please, mom. I bet your daughter is a real pain in the whatever due to your over-bearing attitude and poor taste. You need to teach her some better fashion sense. And I am a conservative ! I think kids should wear uniforms . Kids used to go to school to learn. Now they go to “express themselves” and “to feel good about themselves.” Shades of the Occupiers….

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:20pm

      not hard to tell which side of the tracks you live on.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:24pm

      or do you have a ‘pre-judged’ opinion of me, too, from a one line response to your babble??

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    • theaveng
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:26pm

      It’s funny how schools will enforce one First Amendment right (not pushing religious indoctrination)

      while completely trampling another First Amendment right (freedom of speech, press, expression).
      HYPOCRISY

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  • ConservativeChristianB1954
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:57pm

    If she brought one of those HORRIBLE things called a Bible she would be a TERRIBLE threat to society. They probably would have expelled her permanently.

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    • Jeff Bassett
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:07pm

      Some schools have banned the bible. Many groups are trying to remove public crosses.

      This is the heart of why the founding fathers said people have the right to choose to believe what they want and that right should not be taken away. Not a separation defined by government, but that government could not choose for you.
      Progressives have changed that to the government has the right to choose what you can and cannot believe and how it should be perceived. When your right are not God given and become government given, you have progressive change, socialism, the direction our society is moving in now.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:01pm

      doesn’t really look like the kind of kid to bring a bible to school with the half head lady mullet going on. looks like much to do about nothing really, just doesn’t strike me as the nice honest country kid wearing the flag not to offend like those boys in LA who wore the American flag out of genuine patriotism. I smell a punk and a cry baby on this story. my bet is this child and mother are the call the press kind of folks when things dont go their way. I just smell trash here

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:11pm

      HORSECRAZY: And I detect some anti-southern bigotry here…..she’s from the south and has her hair swept to the left in order to show her face and the “offending” flag….yeah, she wasn’t PC so she has to be “trash” in your opinion….so says another damn worthless yankee!

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    • psychokittis
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:15am

      Let’s not forget the school district in california that banned U.S. flag t-shirts on cinco de mayo because it might offend Mexicans. The whole P.C. thing is as anti-American as anything I’ve seen in the last 47 years. I worry about the future of this country.

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  • Endstatism
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:57pm

    I`m not a fan of the Confederate flag. But long as we have a First Amendment right of free speech, this school is trashing this girl`s rights. Most likely the school district will get sued and lose in court unless the judge is a anti Constitution freak. And the taxpayers should be outraged if this school district flushes down thousands of dollars fighting a losing battle.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:14pm

      I guess you didn’t notice the location of this bit of censorship…Trenton, NEW JERSEY. If this went to trial, you could almost guarantee an anti-American judge!

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  • bjornskis
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:50pm

    I find anything with the face of Oblumbler on it offencive

    nothing wrong with the flag

    of course a mexican flag would have be A OK !!!!

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  • Bayouwulf
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:49pm

    Take 5 minutes of your day and hear the message of HK Eggerton.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYzAqHD1gHc

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  • groundzero
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:47pm

    my two son use to wear the confederate flag and symbol BECAUSE THEY LOVED “DUKES OF HAZARDS” that’s all it meant to them but the schools in PA is the same way MAKING it look like a bad racist thing. My kids got confused as to schools way of thinking also. They love Dukes Of Hazard and just wanted to be like them. The car and the driving with those dump jumps etc….Just being boys

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:56pm

      My son was the same .. he even named our dog Dixie .. I guess that wouldn’t be okay either in our P.C. world.

      “What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist,” wrote Salman Rushdie. It‘s 15 years since Rushdie’s novel, the Satanic Verses, earned the Booker Prize-winning novelist death threats, but the question persists.

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  • YepImaConservative
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:46pm

    Maynard G. Krebs Middle School…. well no wonder… lol.

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  • Lion420
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:39pm

    such nonsense! When I was her age we were getting suspended for the “I’m Bart Simpson, who the hell are you?” t-shirts SCHOOL SUCKS!

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  • GTH
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:36pm

    Uh, I don’t think it was the flag….I mean look at her. She has “troubled kid” written all over her.

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:41pm

      If I send you a photo of me, it would have Screwed Retiree written all over it.
      So…your point is?

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    • JefeHalager
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:44pm

      …… and you come to this conclusion based on your extensive knowledge and research on ‘14 year olds facial expressions’? pray tell how you came to this brilliant conclusion of yours

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    • groundzero
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Your sick she looks like a normal teen.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:49pm

      She looks like a 14 year old pregnant girl who has parents who do meth and let her shave half her head. I’ve go to agree with this poster. She looks pretty troubled.

      BTW, I‘ve got nothing against the flag and if that’s the reason she was suspended, the principal should be fired along with all the staff that had such a problem… Unless she was actually promoting racism and hate. That is of course another matter altogether. Although it isn‘t or shouldn’t be illegal to say ANYTHING that you think, it can be reason to dismiss you from the classroom.

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    • menticide
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:07pm

      SGTB thank you for pointing out the hair-do. It was the first thing I noticed and I thought to myself ‘I bet she hangs out with skinheads.’ But, I’d rather not jump to conclusions without more information, and I read somewhere else that the girl’s older sister is biracial, so my first impression may very well be incorrect.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:17pm

      Yeah gee, she’s a 14 year old girl with a (gasp) confederate battle flag on her hoodie! FOR GOD’S SAKE THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH HER!!! Or maybe it’s just your brainwashed bigotry of everything southern that was beaten into you by our progressive influenced society????

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:33pm

    I guess freedom of speech and expression only applies if your a left wing nut job.

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  • Ricky Tidwell
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:32pm

    Political Correctness = Cultural Marxism. “He who feels no pride in his ancestors is unworthy to be remembered by his descendants.” – Major David F. Boyd 9th Louisiana Infantry C.S.A. I’m a proud descendant of a brave Confederate soldier, and I refuse to sacrifice my history and heritage on the alter of political correctness. Good for you, sweetheart! Where it with pride! Deo Vendice!

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    • doodlebugger
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:51pm

      Same here man it isnt racist it is heritage.

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    • doodlebugger
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:55pm

      BTW, my last name is Boyd

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:31pm

      Unfortunately, the schools and society in general teach that all things Southern are to be shunned as evil..including the real history of the War of Northern Aggression as it is taught from the northern perspective.
      Perhaps Torri SHOULD go back South where there’s still a small amount of sanity and pride in this country still alive!

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:43pm

      You are the descendant of a traitor who deserved to be hung for his crimes. There is no honor in the in what the Confederates stood for or what their traitor army did.

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    • qzak491
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:26am

      ENCINOM

      Let those who are without sin cast the first stone. What makes you think the union was any better than the confederacy. Do you call what Jackson did to the south honorable.

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  • flatbroke
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:29pm

    She should come to school wearing a hijab, and the rebel flag sweat shirt together, then what will they do! This is BS when i went to school 25 years ago you should have seen the stuff some kids wore to school, boys wore t-shirts with gory skulls, and 1/2 naked girls, and cars and rebel flags, and girls wore short skirts, and see threw blouses, and high heels, and tight jeans, and some got sent home when they went too far, but most did not.

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    • SeekingTheTRUTH2
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:51pm

      Thanks FLATBROKE. for not bashing the girl. or calling her names. The 30 some posts before you, everyone has called this 14y old girl EVERYTHING but white. For the LOVE of GOD, shes only 14yrs old. Let this girl show/Express you FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

      I’m the same as you FLATBROKE, when i went to sch some 25yrs ago, Girls were wearing (copying) the look of Madonna. or wore jeans to tight, for skirts to short ect ect. and were sent home to change. (and that’s if they went home) and boys were wearing Band T shirts that were in question. Its bad enough boys and girls now are STILL wearing there jeans half way down their butts. It looked bad 20+ yrs ago, an looks worse now. TO the kids that wear the jeans half way down the ass….START WEARING A BELT!!!!!!! they have been around along time.

      To the 14y old girl. Be Yourself, Express yourself.

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  • Pontiac
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:29pm

    How about we just put an end to this bullcrap and require uniforms in public schools?
    They are going to government schools, make it clear to them they are subjects of the government.

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:37pm

      Yup, I agree. Since we are forced under law to send our kids to Publik Ejumakashun whether we like it or not (hell, we’re paying for it whether we like it or not!) we might as well put them in uniforms. The appropriate color would be brown shirts.

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    • TheE
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:00pm

      Why don’t we just clear up these public school issues by empowering parents to choose a different school if they are encountering problems such as these in their current school. Oh and if a parent chooses to remove their kid from a school, they should also be able to remove their financial support from a school that they are nit using! It all boils down to freedom, equality, and most of all choices!

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:11am

      In Japan students wear uniforms.
      In Japan the money follows the student, the money does not go to a school simply because you’re in its vicinity.
      In Japan they score higher PISA scores than the US.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

      Obviously we’re doing something wrong…

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  • azmomof6
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:27pm

    Let the girl wear what she wants, but Mommy shouldn’t go crying to the principal when her sweet little girl gets her bottom kicked. It’s a bad taste in clothing, but the girl should have the chance to learn from her own mistakes. (But her mommy sure is stupid for encouraging this.)

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:35pm

      No, her Mommy is not stupid for encouraging this. It’s time for ALL parents to stand up to the moronic principle of Political Correctness!

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Sorry Mom, but you got to understand this is a heritege, and she was raised in the south where the flag flies at courthouses. It has nothing to do with race, and her constitutional right has been violated. Did you ever wear a flag pin or shirt with U.S. flag shown on it somewhere, it means the same thing to her and many other people in the south.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:35pm

      So when one of your little darlin‘s wears something that a bigot doesn’t like, it’s ok to kick their little butts too? Maybe your kids should have their heads kicked in for not being progressive enough???

      See how stupid your attitude sounds? And would you like to have one of your kids beaten or sent home from school for simply wearing the wrong FLAG (u.s. instead of mexican)????? Pull you head out!!!

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    • azmomof6
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:19am

      Whoa, calm down! I think my comments were misunderstood. I don’t have a problem with her shirt. I love free speech and don’t want her choice taken away. I don’t know what her NJ school is like, but as a teenager, I was bullied just for being a “little white girl”. At a school where whites were the minority, many white girls were harassed and beat up. There are people out there just looking for a fight. This flag could be just the excuse they need to make her their next target. As some of you mentioned, the flag has strong meaning to some people. The way this young lady feels about it is probably different than the feelings it will invoke in her classmates. Of coarse I don’t want her to get her butt kicked, nor does she desrve it. Im just saying, when it happens, the mom shouldn’t be surprised and go running to the principal. He was trying to defuse the situation before it became a problem; he probably has an idea of how his other students will react to it. This girl should have the right to decide whether or not she wants to take the risk. As a mom who would not want any of my daughters to take a chance at getting hurt, I would discourage her from wearing it. It’s not right to have to worry about being targetted, but it’s reality and the mother should warn her daughter of the danger. To the comment about the flag still being used at certain buildings, I think it‘s historicaly appropriate and it reminds us of our nation’s herritage; I never said anything against it.

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  • green_manalishi
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:22pm

    I find people who wear clothing with pictures of Abama offensiveand racially divisive, got to suspend everybody equally, no favoritism

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    • BonnieBlueFlag
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:48pm

      First, great point, Manalishi.

      Second, may I just say that The South Will Rise Again… as they say.

      I would love nothing more than the God fearing people of the formerly glorious South to throw off our shackles and atheist/socialist overlords in Washington. Dixieland was and will remain God’s land and the more they try to stop that, the more likely that we will secede with honor once again!

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  • Isaiah52021
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:20pm

    If the shirt wasn’t the problem then I guess when she comes back from suspension she will be allowed to wear it, right? what will be their excuse then fort suspending her? PC controls the masses, as long as they do what they are told. I bet if she wore a head dress in honor of Islam, they wouldn’t dare suspend her.

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  • Jomil48
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:19pm

    I wouldn’t wear it, but I support her right to, just as I support a person I saw with a sweatshirt that said Black Power. It is your 1st amendment right. Schools have gone too far in trying to control people. But then must school are nothing more then socialist reeducation centers.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Why wouldn’t you wear it ? Do you even have a clue what it stands for ? Or are you like the rest you think it means white power ?

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:36pm

      sure do D D, but I just don’t look good in any shirt with anything printed on iot. Has nothing to do with what is on the shirt.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:51am

      Should children have the right to bare arms in schools? Do you support their 2nd amendment right?

      Children don’t observe all the same rights as an adult, certainly if this was the case then a parent could not prohibit the speech of their child in a public square.

      So we recognize that children have an extension of rights from their advocate. When that responsibility is passed onto the educator then a different set of rules applies. Read John Locke’s social contract theory, public school is merely a social contract where a governing board makes rules for its users. (However, In some states public school has become a forced contract)

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  • CatB
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:18pm

    Schools should just require uniforms .. easier and in the long run cheaper for the parents.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:26pm

      I agree with you entirely Cat about uniforms, simple and less distractions. Or even better yet, abolish all publis schools, then parnets can choose if they like the chosen school policies or not, and if so leave. Christian schools, atheist schools, muslim schools, gay schools whatever…

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:30pm

      Vouchers for all … then let the parents pick the school. That would put most public schools right out of business. ;-)

      I sent my son to a Catholic High School (even though we are not Catholic) .. best decision I ever made .. and yes he had to wear a shirt, tie, and “dress” pants.

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    • azmomof6
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:36pm

      My kids wear uniforms to school. There are many positive things about school uniforms, however, it is definately not cheaper. Usually I buy clothes on clearance or at thrift stores… it’s hard to find any uniforms that way.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:13pm

    Yup… she looks like a Rebel!

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    • JefeHalager
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:31pm

      Wonder how many times this school has sent kids home for wearing a Malcolm X shirt??? I am guessing zero!

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    • SFsuper49er
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:17pm

      JefeHalager I’m guessing your right !

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:40pm

      I’m sure she would appreciate that compliment sir!

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