Was Jesus a Socialist? MSNBC‘s Lawrence O’Donnell Has Theories
- Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:50pm by
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Responding to a question that Rush Limbaugh posed on his show yesterday—”What would Jesus take,” tax-wise?—Lawrence O’Donnell said that Jesus would take “everything.”
O’Donnell said, “The New Testament does have an answer to Rush’s question, ‘What would Jesus take?‘ and it’s not one Rush is going to like.”
“The answer is everything,” O’Donnell said. Speaking about tax brackets, he went on, “not 35 percent, not 39.6 percent. One hundred percent.”
Referring—out of context—to a passage in the New Testament, O’Donnell continued, “It seems very clear that Jesus would be cool with a 39.6 tax bracket for those making over $250,000.”
Hat-tip Newbusters, which has more that you should check out on the context of O‘Donnell’s remarks, and on the particular passage that O’Donnell quotes.
Watch O’Donnell here:
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PubliusPencilman
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:05pmWhat a stupid argument. How’s this: how about both sides call a cease-fire on distorting scripture for petty political ends. How about we all agree that the New Testament has nothing to say about this issue, and that anyone who claims they can twist words to this purpose does no credit to their faith.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:12pmI agree.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:22pmI don’t know which NEW TESTAMENT you are referring to . JESUS didn’t appear (physically) in the OLD TESTAMENT so all the quotes from JESUS …are…from the NEW TESTAMENT…and no… this is not the time to “give it a rest” this is the time to draw the line in the sand and tell these foolish, foolish men that they are supposed to be reporters, journalists, not policy or king makers and they had better respect the job they have been given and quit trying to turn the whole world into what they are, misquoting facts.
WE’re not in kindergarten here…this is our COUNTRY we are fighting for. OKAY with you?
Report Post »Agentuntomyself
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:45pmUmmm, what? The New Testament has nothing to say about money, taxes, charity, etc.? I think the New Testament is pretty clear on those issues. This man, who knows absolutely nothing, is twisting the teachings of Christ to fit his own political ends, and for those of us who hold the teachings of Christ as something that is at the center of our lives, it is pretty offensive.
Report Post »misteryuck
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:00amActually Jesus appeared in the old testament many times… He appeared to Abraham (Abram) and to many others, sometimes as The Angel of The Lord. Why/how can I say this…
Report Post »Jesus said “No man has seen the Father but me”. If this statement is true, and it is since Jesus (God with us or Emanuel) said it, then who did these people in the old testament see or meet with? Remember, in the begining was the word…And the word was with GOD, and the WORD (logos) was GOD…. John 1:1
ILUVJESUS
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:05pmRead the parable of the talents. God takes from the ones who did not invest and gives it to those who did. Jesus: not a socialist.
Report Post »KimH211
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:51pmExactly!
Report Post »BrownEyedGirl
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:13amAmen! I had the same thought!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:05pmGod asks only a tenth.
Larry really is ignorant, totally out of his league.
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:05pmOh yeah – smoking pot, breaking store windows, throwing rocks at cops, stealing stuff that wasn’t his – yeah, that’s what the New Testament is all about. :)
Report Post »NEAF
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:04pmAnybody can read the Bible. Even Satan knows the Bible, but he doesn’t obey it or can comprehend it.
Report Post »high school drop out
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:04pmSnow Leopard , You are half right…He needs to just…. GO!!!
Report Post »Barack Must Go
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:04pmI can tell it’s ******** just from the headline. Lawrence O’Donnell and then the word “ THINKS ” is a dead giveaway.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:24amHey bud, gotta light? ~wink~
Report Post »5410amh
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:04pmLet’s see! He thinks jesus was a socialist and chris mathews is romantically in love with oboma.
Report Post »scguitar
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:03pmMany will come in Jesus’s name and decieve many. How much longer must were pervert the Gospel and the truth? I admire O’Donnell for sticking up for his faith and what he believes in, but he couldn’t be further from the truth
Report Post »Boogie15
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:03pmJesus spoke highly of “giving”. He spoke poorly of “taxes”.
Report Post »adblake
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:34pmFirst why would an atheist like O’Donnell care what the bible says about Jesus, second way to distort and obvious passage. No one took everything from the widow who gave all. The point was that the widow gave everything she had which was very little. Her penny was worth more than all the riches the rich man gave as it came from her heart. Now if the Romans had come to her and demanded that they receive that penny to give it to others who would not work for it that would have been Socialism. When Jesus asked the disciples to give up everything and follow him the point wasn’t about material posessions. The point was that the love of the lord and Christ provides everything you need, Jesus and his followers did not take anything they were not offered freely and with good will. They also did not give up everything to give to Caesar.
Report Post »AZKate
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:01pmTAX COLLECTORS were evil low lifes in the bible. Hello? Is there anyone out there who even read The Book?
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:26pmYou would not want to confuse them with the context of scripture. The very first thing we read after the creation account is the serpent TWISTING what God said to Eve. Things do not change. We’ve still got serpents twisting what God said. Obedience to his teaching/instruction is what is supposed to bring blessings or curses…socialism or marxism want to replace him and what he said with social justice and income distribution.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:52pmMathew was the tax collector, and like the other eleven dropped everything and followed Jesus Crist.
Report Post »WVBeagleMom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:01pmJesus would take nothing, he wants us to give..to help our neighbors. He would not “take” to help a socialist group run things.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:01pmMaybe he knows pastor Wallace Smith.
Report Post »Randyrocker
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:00pmNext he‘ll be saying Jesus would be groping and feeling up little children in America’s airports, because to him it would be the thing to do.
Report Post »high school drop out
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:00pmUNBELIEVEABLE!! This imbicile.really believes this….how does he find his way home at night(without help)…..
Report Post »dovesong
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:57pmIt’s clear that Lawrence O’Donnell doesn’t know Jesus at all.
Paying Taxes to Caesar
Report Post »22:15-22pp — Mk 12:13-17; Lk 20:20-26
15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” 18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?“ 21 ”Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” 22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.
uncleherbert
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:37pmSend that to lawrance, DOVESONG. How else will he know that the truth has no agenda?
Report Post »Randyrocker
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:57pmAnother great thought from the lunatic left. Heaven help us all.
Report Post »retriever
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:54amGod will help all who ask, but O’Donnell better hope that God helps him see the light before it is too late!
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:57pmI wish I had a job that paid me for saying nothing but bullcrap.
Report Post »And he doesn’t stop…
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:56pmNO, look what he did with the fishes and loaves, took a little and created a lot. Gave out free samples and got people hooked. Started a religion and look at the franchises. Of course he is a capitalist. and he gives to charity.
Report Post »AZKate
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:03pmlove the analogy
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:10pm@Darmok:
Good analogy though, even with the Sarcasm. Jesus took part of something, and made it into a multitude for the many. Unlike government which takes from the multitude and destroys much good in the end, just the opposite of what they claim is their intentions.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:52pmHey snow, how do you feel about the new upgrades to the site. I have noticed a lot of comments of mine get pulled or don’t post. But I do like the character counter, it keeps these novels from being posted. I am still confused on what is authorized on this site and what is verbotten.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:55pmLaurance O’Donnel sees everything and everyone either as a socialist or the enemy of socialism; he needs to leave enough alone.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:55pmJesus was a progrssive? O’Donnell is the daffy duck of MSnbc! Blasphemer!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:22pmPlease don’t dishonor Daffy Duck in such a manner!
Report Post »TRUTH
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:09pmJesus was extremely progressive!
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:16pmI doubt it, “truth”. Jesus lived not for the things of this world, but for those unseen (Heavenly Father). What I see progressives (and sadly most Americans) living for is for the things of this world. Whether they worked for it or someone else worked for it. They think they deserve whatever they want and if they have to steal it, that’s fine to. We DESERVE nothing. Everything is a GIFT from God.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:54pmdoes anyone NO working for Glenn watch him or anything else on that station? I have never seen him i see now why
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:21pm@The Blaze:
“The Blaze encourages comments that are on topic and abide by our Comment Policy and Terms of Use. Members are *soley* responsible for their comments. Comments that violate our policies will be removed.” The word above, “soley” is spelled SOLELY.
@LadyIzShy
Report Post »I haven’t seen him, either, except in clips here. Furthermore, he has nothing to say that is truthful, worthwhile, or intelligent!
handsoffmystuff
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:54pmPeddlers of the sin of envy are not the saints of the gospel.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:01pmAgreed, yet remember like the good book says that even the devil will appear as an angel of light. It is the world being so blind that what is true and good, is taught as evil and dark; while the reverse is seen to be fact.
May there be mercy from the Almighty for so many deluded upon that day of Judgment.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:23pmAnd yet your screen name peddles in the sin of greed.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:44pm@ encinom
Matthew 25:14-30. The master left on a trip and gave his three servants bags of talents. To the first, he gave 5 bags; to the second, 2 bags; and to the third, 1 bag. The first servant “invested” the 5 bags and made 5 more in return; the second man invested 2 bags and made 2 more; but the third man buried his 1 bag in the ground and only saved it. When the master returned, he praised the first two servants, who enlarged the master’s wealth entrusted to them, and promised them more responsibilities in the future. But he chastised the third servant for being timid and not “growing” his wealth!
Christ said “For ye have the poor always with you and whesoever ye will ye can do them good; but me ye have not always” (Mark 14:7 American Stand Version)
Report Post »Christ’s ministry was to reaffirm our free agency. He said render under Caesar that which is his, referring to money. He left it up to us and he said he would judge us on HOW WE DEAL with those among us in need.
Christians also believe:
Do not preach helping the poor and not practice what you preach (James 2: 16-17)
Do not give food to someone who refuses to work (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
Hunger can be a good incentive to not be lazy (Proverbs 16:26)
WithOutGodWePerishAsARepublic
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:52pmThis coming from someone who has never ever read the bible !!!
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:59pmIf he was to step into a church, he would burst into flames
Report Post »soapbox55
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:10pmJesus allowed people to give and demanded total committment for disciples so he could teach them to teach others. His message was pretty clear–”Render unto Cesar…” Since we are the government, we should decide how we should give. Let’s give just enough to keep responsible government going; for military, for transportation, for protection… Let private industry do the rest.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:41pmI try real hard not to use the word Idiot when I use the name Lawrence O’Donnell. I honestly try real hard
Report Post »but can’t seem to change my feelings about it. They just seem to go together, just like Olberbite and Chris Matthews and, and, and (name ‘em all)
HairRazor
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:47pmPsalm 128
Report Post »1 Blessed are all who fear the LORD, (not Alah)
who walk in obedience to him.
2 You will eat the fruit of your labor;
blessings and prosperity will be yours.
feralKat
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:48amActs 5:4 The money was yours…the property was yours…
2 Cor 8:3 …They [gave] of their own free will…
Matt 20:15 Is it against the law for me to do what I want with my money?
In Luke 18:22, Jesus instructed the man to sell his possessions and give to the poor.
He was left the choice
Matt 11:19 Jesus accused of “being a friend of tax collectors and other sinners”. Tax collectors were not working for God.
Matt 22:21 “Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God”
Report Post »- taxes were not for God. Jews hated paying taxes to Rome that were used to support pagan temples.
CatB
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:52pmLIberal fool .. but then I repeat myself.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:58pmDoesn’t anyone at MSNBC have any shame or morals at all?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:00pmO’Donnell sees everything through a set of small, myopic lenses in which he feels early christianity is usable for his justification to change America into a government dictatorship and socialist utopia that will never work. He seeks to find any and all justifications he can twist and distort and pervert to make his ideals work or sound sane and rational to any who will listen.
Jesus was here about the responsibility of the individual, who works to spread the good word and do the works of God in the faith of the Lord Jesus unto the Father. Salvation is not a collective concept of all or nothing for the group; it is salvation of Grace, open TO ALL, but chosen by the individual or rejected by the individual.
We all will stand or fail, on judgment, by the same standards, as individuals on the day before the Father to come.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:04pmIts amazing this guy is on the air he is worse the Olberdo… and clearly more radical, self admitted socialist for those who dont know!
Correct me if Im wrong didnt Jesus throw a little fit over taxes etc?
Report Post »KUjayhawk
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:09pmI guess O‘Donnell didn’t read or know that all the people out to get/set-up Christ were TAX COLLECTORS.
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:09pmThe only interviewer I know that takes 3 minutes to formulate a question leaving the interviewee 30 seconds to respond
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:11pmHOW DARE HE…WOULDN’T WANT TO BE HIM WHEN HE MEETS JESUS. Jesus also said, you dolt:
RENDER unto CAESAR what is CAESARS. HE ALSO SAID: (paraphrasing: You don’t work; you don’t eat) He also talked about LAZY people…people who did not take care of their families…people who did not honor the VERY SPECIAL TALENT THAT GOD HAD GIVEN TO THEM AND ONLY THEM.
He also said each one of us was CREATED with a purpose…first to LOVE GOD with ALL OUR HEARTS and then our NEIGHBORS as OURSELVES.
TELL ME, O’Donnell: HOW is it loving my neighbor to turn him into a worth toad who never works, never achieves anything.
DO NOT DARE to try to assess the CREATOR OF THIS ENTIRE UNIVERSE with your feeble, human, sinfilled brain. Like an ATOM talking to an ELEPHANT… “I know you, I can understand you. I will speak for you.” RIGHT.. NOT.
YOU SOCIALIST idiots want a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT? YOU GOT ONE…right here in RIVER CITY. AMERICA is ONE WORLD, you dope. AMERICA has everyone from every where of every size and color. YOU WANT TO PROVE your silly SOCIALISM works? GO INTO any neighborhood and help someone YOURSELF…don’t take my money to do it. I help those people I choose to help or GOD tells me to help…. giving people fish instead of teaching them HOW TO FISH is not doing them any favors. YOU HAVE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR SOCIALISM …and besides..duffus…hasn’t anyone told you that it has failed everywhere.
GOD created each of us for a purpose. WE all get the same start. MOST (97%) of the MILLIONAIRES/BILLIONAIRES (who didn’t steal it from the people (bankers/WS jerks) came from middle or lower class families. THEY went to public schools. They had jobs in the summer and had to do their homework, mow the yard. THEY didn‘t sit around on stolen Cell phones waiting for some of OBAMA’S ‘STASH”
THE QUESTION is NOT why don‘t we who have ’made it’ Help them. THE QUESTION SHOULD BE “THEY HAD THE SAME START WE HAD…why didn’t they work hard? Stay in School…wear hand me downs to school instead of shoplifting… YOU want to help the world fella…you go deal with some answers to that… and leave AMERICA alone. SOCIALIZE this dummie.
JESUS would NEVER CONDONE ANY PRACTICE THAT RUINED HIS CREATIONS. CAN YOU EVEN GET THAT???? !!!! DO NOT EVER TRY TO HIDE BEHIND JESUS AGAIN. HE DESERVES EVERY EFFORT WE CAN GIVE, EVERY DAY WE SHOULD BE WORKING FOR GOD…NOT YOUR pompous GOVERNMENT.
FINALLY: OUR UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT works for the PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES. WE own every desk, every chair, every pencil, every drapery, every telephone, every computer, every airplane, every vehicle….every thing including every building in the GOVERNMENT belongs to WE, THE PEOPLE. THEY had better begin to acknowledge it because we are actively finding people who will. SHAME ON YOU LARRY O’DONNELL…how’d you get so messed up?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:12pmThis guy taxes my acceptance!
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:13pmI haven’t read the article or watched the clip–why waste your time??? Just reading the words MSNBC is an automatic channel changer, delete button, no brainer. I personally would rather watch Barney than have to listen to their BS!!! God Bless!!!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:13pmI heard someone talking on WSB this afternoon before Erick Erickson came on. (Wish I could remember who it was!) He was talking about what Rush Limbaugh had said about it and about Rush being dissed for what he’d said.
The bottom line was, Jesus would take 10 percent; it’s called a TITHE!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:20pmSorry, but Newsbusters is white washing the gospel to avoid dealing with the fact that Christ was a socialist. Taken in context, Christ mentions that blindly following him is not enough, if you leave your neighbors behind to suffer. Beck is telling you to hoard food, to act out of greed, Christ teaches to give away possesions and act out of charity. Chirst would be ashamed of the defense of greed that the tea-party espouse to as they worship their false idol Ayn Rand.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:22pmRev. O’Donnell………….laughable
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:27pmBlasphemy! When did Jesus or God ever preach about forcing everyone to be equal? That was the Devil’s views.
The Savior preached about giving freely through charity, loving others, thyself, and God the father. He never praised the Tax collectors, instead he asked them to follow him. Or how about the stories of those who were rich in the bible yet still righteous. How about Job who was rich yet lost everything only to gain it all back 2 folds because of how faithful he remained to the lord.
Point is this liberal progressive doesn’t know a thing about the bible and probably never has. It’s a shame that liberals have fallen this low they are even lying about the Savior.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:35pmWell it shows how ignorant the liberal progressive commies are. He wasn’t even smart enough to get whoever scanned through the Bible to let him know what any of it means. If he wants to “quote” scripture that way then we can do the same. The Bible states absolutely clearly that we are to give 10% to God and only naturally the self proclaimed “messiah” thinks that we should not give the 10% to God because that 10% as well as the other 90% belongs to him and his demonic thugs.
Report Post »What Would Jesus Vote
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:40pmJesus WAS a socialist or have you never read his teachings? You think he was a capitalist?
Report Post »Buster44
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:47pmThere’s an old southern saying…”HE AIN’T RIGHT!”
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:47pmWell Lawrense…if you only knew Jesus, He would tell you that you are headed for HELL>……..
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:50pmLiberal fool who does not understand Christianity.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:50pmJesus said, “pay your taxes”. Hoarding will cause your riches to rot.
What you‘re hoarding isn’t available to anyone else which testifies to your lack of trust in the provisions of God in your future.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:51pmAnother very interesting point to take. God (and Jesus) states without any confusion in regards to this. Whether it‘s the tithe we are to give to God or any of the other scriptures that o’donnell mutilated, every single one of them talks does not say one single word about them taking. Even with the tithe it talks about us GIVING! So therefore I say that we should do what it says since they wish to follow scripture. We will give to them whatever it is in our hearts to give. I guess that means that if we choose to not give then we are basically defunding the federal government – who needs Congress to defund anything.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:55pmSo does this mean O’Donnell believes in Jesus?
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:00pmWhat Would Jesus Vote and encinom -
Blasphemers are just as bad as liberal loons. Your teenage minds can’t comprehend what the bible teaches because your to brainwashed by people like this and others in the fringe media. In fact you should educate yourselves more on your own views. Saul Alinsky whom was the founder of the American Socialist Movement and wrote the book you socialists use as your own personal guide – the “Rules for Radicals” which was *gasp* dedicated to and I quote: “LUCIFER, that’s right, to Satan the Devil himself, for the reason that Alinsky saw Lucifer as the first “Revolutionary”, and after all, all ‘you’ communists and socialists are truly godless liberals.” (Quoted from patriot action).
So you really believe that Jesus the light of the world would have the same ideals as Lucifer the prince of darkness? Do pigs fly as well in your world as well? You couldn’t even quote the bible to prove an argument. You embarrass yourselves and have defied the name of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Shame on you and shame on what you have just spoken. Truly I will pray for your souls to find the way.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:01pmJesus said, “You will eat the fruits of YOUR labor in this life and eternity”.
Does that sound socialist to you?
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:04pmSure Larry—I have heard Libs spew that one before, but the problem with this is that FIRST AND FOREMOST, you believe the bible is a myth, that God is non-existent and the only reason you will pick up the holy book is to find a passage to twist and justify looting of the American taxpayer. However, I say we have a few test subjects on the 100% theory starting with YOU.
Report Post »What Would Jesus Vote
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:08pmPretty classic internet argument tactic to assume that anyone who disagrees with you on the internet is either a kid or a loser in mom’s basement. I haven’t been a teen for a long time.
Right wingers worship money. When you stand to be judged, it will be on your resume. Your greed and prejudice will be too. If you believe what you claim then you should be concerned because if God is looking at two people and one worshipped money and the other gave money to the poor, the first guy’s going to hell. you guys always want to hold up the worst case scenario as the general rule
you‘d rather give tax cuts to the rich than be able to keep more of your own money and risk that even a little bit might end up in the hands of someone you’ve decided doesn’t work harder than you. Cast the first stone, people, because you’re hypocrites. What’s that quote about a camel passing through the eye of a needle? It’s ok for me to throw stones. I don’t believe in the mother goose stories. But you DO so how can you claim to follow the teachings of Jesus but not live that way at all?
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:12pmJesus may need some magic Mormon underwear, now available with this special offer at Glenn Beck dot com for three easy installments of $29.99, to protect him from this vicious assault from the Left.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:16pmThis man IS a lib fool.
Jesus came to wash away our SINS, O’Donnell.
The obvious fact is ALL you ******** have NEVER read the Scripture.
Maybe has something to do with your sick fascination with
appointing your tired selves god.
Jesus and a 39.5% bracket…laughable if it wasn’t so stupid.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:16pmI have yet to see a quote from the Bible here from the Conservative Christians. Maybe you can explain to me how these quotes are “out of context.”
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Mathew 19:21).
When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:22)
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.’” (Matthew 25:41-45)
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mathew 19:24).
You can find quotes like that throughout the New Testament. That was a common them of Jesus. Yet, as far as I can tell, the basis of the Tea Party and Conservative philosophy is to support the “richest among us” rather than the poorest. Republicans are pushing the idea that to solve the deficit crisis, we cut taxes for the rich, even beyond Bush’s tax cuts.
Maybe someone can find a quote in the Bible to support your political view that Jesus loved the rich and wanted governments to distribute the wealth of our nation to the rich? That‘s not the way I read Christ’s quotes. But maybe you can explain how I’ve taken those quotes out of context, how they are metaphorical, how Jesus did not mean what he said literally and how Jesus was really in favor of people becoming extravagantly wealthy and how that was his will.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:17pmBTW…is this guy in competition with Begala for the Great Forehead of the Dem party or what?
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:18pmFools rush in where Angels fear to tread. O”Donnell using scripture to make a point….. Unbelievable
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:22pm@encinom
Report Post »I won’t make claims or anything like that but I will say that I have a very very strong hunch that you will absolutely NOT like what God tells you when you stand before him. Perverting His words and His meanings to fit your own socialistic beliefs will not change anything except (like I said – when you are standing in His Presence) to find out what your eternal fate is. In fact, I wouldn‘t be surprised if you and o’donnell take that trip together hand in hand (unless you are the one and the same, then you would have to hold hands with yourself).
@What Would Jesus Vote
I would say that it is a very strong bet that What He would vote would not be a vote for you. If you truly believe that then there may be a possibility that you may be walking hand in hand with o’donnell and encinom as well. What I pray for is that people like you three open your eyes and see God and Jesus for who they really are and ask for and receive forgiveness with His truth instead of trying to make a mockery of them by changing them to fit your mold. I can guarantee you that you will never be powerful enough to change God – many men have tried and many men have eternally died (as on Judgement Day).
@PubliusPencilman
When you speak of the “New Testament” you also speak of the “Old Testament” what Jesus said in the “New Testament” He quoted from the “Old Testament”. All of both books had to deal with people and how they act and live properly. This deals with every aspect of life. Of course, these are secondary to the primary meanings of the entire Bible. First and foremost, the “Old Testament”(or Hebraic Covenant) is mostly about the coming Messiah and the “New Testament” (the Renewed Covenant) speaks mostly about the Messiah being here.
Strictlybusiness
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:25pmWHY WAISTE TIME WITH THIS LOOSER, He only does this so he can actually have people see him….. That only hapens here on the blaze….Come on guyzzzzzzz , If msnbc and the rest can boycot Sarah Palin stories, then surely we can boycot them……and their idiotic stories!!!!!!
Report Post »Kurty C Wipe
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:42pmSums up what the idiot makes a year, less than 250.000. If he fell into the 40% bracket he would throw a tantram.
Report Post »Socailists love everybodys else‘s money as long as it isn’t theirs!
Huguenot Descendant
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:47pmWhat Would Jesus Vote -
Not only have you not been able to come up with a valid argument for your defense. You have taken up insults to be that which your your vindication is completely erroneous.
“Right wingers worship money.”
When has a right winger ever shown they worship money? Because they would like to be successful to support their family? Cause they would rather give from their hearts instead of giving to tax payers? Is it not what Jesus preached to give from the heart. Their are quotes galore from the bible on this thread stating this fact how to support your family. Let me provide you with a couple I received from ‘Psychosis and HairRazor’ -
“He said render under Caesar that which is his, referring to money. He left it up to us and he said he would judge us on HOW WE DEAL with those among us in need.”
“Do not give food to someone who refuses to work (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
Hunger can be a good incentive to not be lazy (Proverbs 16:26)”
“2 You will eat the fruit of your labor;
blessings and prosperity will be yours.”
Wow, doesn’t sound at all like Socialism. In fact sounds like the Savior was for everything Conservatives stand for because Conservatives base their values off of the Bible. Huh, go figure.
“you‘d rather give tax cuts to the rich than be able to keep more of your own money and risk that even a little bit might end up in the hands of someone you’ve decided doesn’t work harder than you.”
As stated above, Jesus said unto those:
“Do not give food to someone who refuses to work (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
Hunger can be a good incentive to not be lazy (Proverbs 16:26)”
“Cast the first stone, people, because you’re hypocrites.”
Umm.. after all that has been said who is the proven hypocrite? You can’t even give a good explanation on the Alinsky quote instead you go straight onto bashing Republicans. At least here Conservatives have common sense and will actually bring a thing called “Facts” to a debate.
“What’s that quote about a camel passing through the eye of a needle?”
Indeed Jesus did say this. But that wasn’t dedicated to all those who are rich like those of Job. Also the fact that there are rich people whom are still righteous they give generously to charity as the Savior intended.
“It’s ok for me to throw stones. I don’t believe in the mother goose stories. But you DO so how can you claim to follow the teachings of Jesus but not live that way at all?”
This has just proven your screen name and everything you have said thus far false. You insult those who know more than you about the bible and rush in without any facts. You are the prime example of a liberal and a liar. Thank you for showing your true colors that you don‘t care to insult others and how you think you have the right to be violent because you don’t believe in God. For now as far as I am concerned your opinion is invalid from hence forth. Let the Lord d
Report Post »Chief Moolah Eggplant
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:53pmThe first Christian were not socialists, they were voluntary communists because they did what they wanted with what they owned by giving it to be held in common among them.
Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is like the owner of a vineyard who asked the complaining laborers, Isn’t it LAWFUL for me to do what I want with what I own?
Report Post »Socialists seek to make it UNLAWFUL for an owner to do what he wants with what he owns;
they would insist Jesus pay more to those who worked all day than to those who worked for only an hour.
right-wing-waco
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:54pm@ encinom
Report Post »Beck did NOT tell anyone to HORDE food. He said to prepare by buying and storing extra. He also said several times that by having extra you will be able to help others. There is plenty of food for you and others to buy right now, but if you wait too long it just might be scarce. You really have to pay more attention.
time_to_tea_party
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:09pmUnfortunately, Jesus would have us give to the government whatever the government required, period! If it was 35%, 39%, 50%, or 100%… the “render unto Caesar” statement He makes pretty much says it all.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:12pmJesus wasn‘t and isn’t a socialist.
Jesus IS a spaceship-flying superman.
Yeshua preached individual salvation through restraint from sin and giving out of the kindness of your heart, storing up your riches in heaven.
All Big Government does is take, take, tax.
Tax means take.
The Federal Government is a cadre of usurpers.
They rob us all through usury.
Usury is a sin, even in Islam.
You’re supposed to give out of the kindness of your heart, not worrying too much about where it goes after you give it, therby storing up your riches in heaven. You’re not supposed to lend your fellow man into slavery.
If they misappropriate your gift, they aren’t stealing from you, they aren’t stealing from the receiver of the gift, they are stealing from Yahweh.
The Federal Government is robbing us in order to create the illusion that they are using it for the interest of the world, but in actuality the shareholders of the Federal Reserve are appropriating the funds for themselves, and bribing off the poorest in order to create the illusion of benevolence.
They also, by stealing our wealth and redistributing it, rob us of our gift, and claim the gift as their own to give to whom they please. They are attempting to rob of of our inheritance in Heaven.
There is a place for Robin Hoods, if they are actually giving the spoils to the poor, and not bribing them or lending them into slavery with it, or giving a portion of it and keeping it for themselves. It’s in the bible. It’s the only way you can use unholy Mammon (money) for Yahweh.
International Standard Version (©2008)
“No one can serve two masters, because either he will hate one and love the other, or be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and riches!”
GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
“No one can serve two masters. He will hate the first master and love the second, or he will be devoted to the first and despise the second. You cannot serve God and wealth.
King James Bible
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Acts 5
1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Report Post »3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
YouGottaProblemWithThat
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:13pmSince when did MSNBC change their programming to the 700 club format? I’m I crazy or is MSNBC trying to talk to Christians? Are those who know the Bible, and who study it, watching MSNBC? Am I missing something here?
First the media rails on the Christain right because of our belief in Christ’s teaching. Then just when you get used to that, they begin spouting Jesus’ words out of context in order to create a salient argument that He was, and we all should be socialists. I have walked into another dimension of time and space. Nothing is what it seems anymore.
But I’m not a missionary! I don’t even believe in Jebus… save me Jebus! – Homer Simpson
Report Post »snidley-whiplash
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:17pmThey have to make themselves into the image of Jesus……………….only to try and save themselves from the ravages of hell.
Report Post »Sound like someone is worried.
YouGottaProblemWithThat
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:22pm@encinom
Get a degree in divinity and then you can talk about scripture. The more you post here, the more convinced I am of the insignificance of your exegesis and the subject matter.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:24pmWho is jesus until it’s a useless, false, point you want to make
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:25pmThe question to Jesus about taxes was a “trick” question, and Jesus knew that. Jesus answered, render unto Cesar that which is Cesars and unto God that is Gods. (paraphrased)
The question here is: what belongs to Cesar? Just because Cesars picture was on the coin did not mean that it belonged to Cesar and Jesus knew that too. Jesus was saying, if you think this belongs to Cesar… give it to Cesar.
Our government is not our boss and does not own us. At some point high taxes force us to be slaves.
Also notice in the Bible that the tithe is 10%. NOT 10% for some and 60% for others. I also like to remind liberals that the Bible teaches us, those that do not work should not eat. (This referred to those capable of working and not the crippled as we are admonished to care for the crippled.)
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:34pmO‘donnel’s a dipsh%t
Report Post »Agentuntomyself
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:34pm@encinom and whatwouldjesusvote:
Okay, I just can’t pass this up because you are both so incredibly ignorant on the teachings of Christ, and apparently socialism as well.
Christ says: in order to be one of his followers you must VOLUNTARILY help the poor and needy. It’s your choice. Just don’t call yourself a Christian if you choose not to.
Socialism says: We, the state, do not believe that mankind will be charitable enough, so we will force you all to help the poor and needy. We will develop social programs to do this and you will pay for it through taxes. If you refuse to pay said taxes, we will escort you to prison at the point of a gun.
Now, since I give a hefty portion of both my money and my time to help the poor and needy, I don‘t need a bunch of socialist hypocrites to point fingers at me and tell me I’m not doing enough. Especially since if we compared, I’m fairly certain that the amount of service to my fellow man would outstrip you by quite a bit.
Is that clear enough for you to understand?
Report Post »Iam4EnoughALREADY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:52pmI am not a perfect bible scholar— but I do my fair share— and we must understand the whole story of that bible quote.
Report Post »First of all…. Jesus Christ was NEVER a taker! Understand that True Christianity is the ONLY religion (not a big fan of the word religion, but prefer relationship with Jesus) that you do not “have to” do certain things to go to the promise land…. See Jesus gave his life for you! All you have to do is accept his gift.
I cringe at how hostile he makes Jesus sound –and again….Jesus doesn’t want to take anything anyway from you. Now for his reference in Mark concerning the wealthy men putting into the treasury and the old women putting in her money; The rich men put in far more money into the offering, then she did….so they were thinking, they did great….while a women who had the equivalent of only a dollar to her name, put the entire dollar in….. Have you ever heard the expression, there is pain in the offering!?
She gave on faith and trust in the Lord. She did not HAVE too….she did it from the heart- Jesus was saying that dollar, because of her faith, trust, and love for God was more than the thousands of dollars they gave—She put in more because of where it came from …the heart.
Jesus wanted these wealthy me to give from the heart….REMEMBER GIVE! Not be forced by taking….Jesus does not want you to give and be angry, bitter, and upset about it….that is no good..
So he is WRONG when he says “What would Jesus take?” “He would take what was their ability to pay—that is the clear Christian way!” Lawrence, you have misinterpreted the Bible (in my humble opinion) and misrepresented Jesus with your own agenda….You are entitled to your opinion, but please do not use the Bible or Jesus in the wrong context to push your own political points
poverty.sucks
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:56pmJesus wouldn’t vote, nor would he register to vote.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:06pmencinom WROTE: Beck is telling you to hoard food, to act out of greed, Christ teaches to give away possesions and act out of charity. Chirst would be ashamed of the defense of greed that the tea-party espouse to as they worship their false idol Ayn Rand.
@encino,
The day you represent something correctly will be the first time.
You are either stupid, or a liar. Maybe both.
Beck has espoused stocking up on food not only to have the ability to feed your own family, but, and I quote Glenn, “To be an oasis for friends and neighbors that did not prepare, and are in need”
He has said those exact words numerous times, and they sound like the words of Christ, not the words of greed.
For you to intentionally misrepresent and malign a decent man is inexcusable.
You have reached a new low.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:08pm@ PATTY HENRY
Report Post »Well SAID, Patty….Give him an EAR FULL! Now if O’Donnell had a brain to comprehend.
leftcoastslut
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:55pmLord have mercy on his soul, he knows not what he does
Report Post »markThatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:02amOnce again the koolaid drinking O’Donnell has decided he knows the mind of Christ. Christ was concerned about the life after our earthly one is done, and He knew we would live it to the best of our perfections or imperfections. Grow up and read your Bible Larry
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:34am@ calijohn
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:29am
“rep allen west is a coward”
And you base this on what?
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:45amThe woman who gave her two small coins (all she had) into the treasury box of the Temple…..
It was a voluntary contribution, it was not a tax. And Jesus had nothing to do with the scene before him, he was an observer.
Mark 12:41-44
Larry O’Donnell does not know what he is talking about.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:50amGod separated the waters above the firmament from the waters below the firmament- enough said.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:52amWhen you give people handouts- you are digging down a wall.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:55amGod is going to remind Americans that the Lord is the Alpha and Omega, and I hope Americans are listening for the knock at the door.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:00amJZS wrote:
“I have yet to see a quote from the Bible here from the Conservative Christians. Maybe you can explain to me how these quotes are “out of context.””
I am glad to tell you I am here to help your ignorance around this subject…..God is good….
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Mathew 19:21).
This is just part of the story Jesus was replying to a man whom said he has kept all the commandments and asked what he lacked to do in order to gain everlasting life….Jesus knowing his heart told him exactly what he didn’t want to hear, give up your LOVE of money and love me…The man was full of sorrow as he had great wealth and didn’t wanna give it up. He loved money more the the Master…. Moral isn’t money is bad, but LOVE of money over the Master is…..
Another story like this is of Cornelius in Acts whom did everything right, charity, helped the poor, etc…He just didn’t have faith in Jesus….He wasn’t forced to give up his wealth but to believe in Christ, be Baptized, and follow God’s commandments….
“When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:22)”
Same story as a above….
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.’” (Matthew 25:41-45)”
Jesus is not saying give your wealth to Caesar to give to the poor, Jesus is simply saying if you see those in need and do not WILLING help them then you are also rebuking the Master…..
“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mathew 19:24).”
This is same story as above and above…This who love money over God’s commandments, not our definition of “rich” today….
You know what JZS, I guess you and I both are going to hell as we are RICH compared to the poor of Africa, right? Is this what your saying?
“You can find quotes like that throughout the New Testament. That was a common them of Jesus. Yet, as far as I can tell, the basis of the Tea Party and Conservative philosophy is to support the “richest among us” rather than the poorest. Republicans are pushing the idea that to s
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:05amIam4EnoughALREADY, “I am not a perfect bible scholar— but I do my fair share—”
None of us are perfect but your comment is a good one. You have a clear understanding on this matter.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:07amContinued from JZS
“You can find quotes like that throughout the New Testament. That was a common them of Jesus. Yet, as far as I can tell, the basis of the Tea Party and Conservative philosophy is to support the “richest among us” rather than the poorest. Republicans are pushing the idea that to solve the deficit crisis, we cut taxes for the rich, even beyond Bush’s tax cuts.”
Again your either ignorant or being a liar and deceitful…I will assume ignorance and hopefully help eliminate it…. TEA Party is full of POOR people telling Government to stop taxing and taking POOR peoples money….
“Maybe someone can find a quote in the Bible to support your political view that Jesus loved the rich and wanted governments to distribute the wealth of our nation to the rich? That‘s not the way I read Christ’s quotes. But maybe you can explain how I’ve taken those quotes out of context, how they are metaphorical, how Jesus did not mean what he said literally and how Jesus was really in favor of people becoming extravagantly wealthy and how that was his will.”
No where in the Bible did Jesus say for us to give money to government to give to poor, in fact he says INDIVIDUALS should….There is nothing wrong with money, but there is something wrong with the love of money… Whom is it these days that has the love of money, GOVERNMENT…..They love money so much they are spending your Childs right now…..If you have wealth yes you should help those in need, WILLINGLY….
Just remember JZS, twisting God’s words is evil and you will be cursed… Better watch what you say about the Master above…
Report Post »OFFmyMEDS
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:17amLawrence O’Donnell is not qualified to have an opinion let alone a theory. He just not that smart.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:26amTo any whom think Jesus was a socialist, read the Bible….
No where in the Bible does Jesus talk of give your money to the Government to give to the poor….Jesus tells YOU to give what you can to the poor and be compassionate. To not LOVE money but rather to use money in LOVE of Christ….
It seems many have forgotten the commandments of God especially this one:
“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor ANYTHING that is thy neighbor’s”….
The problem today is not the rich helping or not helping the poor….Problem today is we are taught by Socialists like Lawrence O and our Government to want what your neighbor has and not have faith in God….A direct opposite of what God tells us to do….
Jesus was not socialist and those saying so are lying about God making them liars!!!!
Lawrence O needs to give up all his wealth to the poor if he believes what he says….Fact of the matter he is a liar with an agenda and liars are not of God….
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:11amHey JZS,
The one thing that is evident, is that God gave you a talent for setting up a false argument.
Similar to the old “Have you stopped beating your wife yet” question.
Quoting JZS: “Maybe someone can find a quote in the Bible to support your political view that Jesus loved the rich and wanted governments to distribute the wealth of our nation to the rich?”
Show me where anyone here claimed their political view was that Jesus loved the rich, and he wanted government to distribute the wealth of the nation to the rich? Where did you get that from?
First, the act of NOT TAKING something from someone, is not GIVING them ANYTHING.
If I do not steal your lunch money, am I in fact giving you lunch?
Second, Jesus was not in favor of “governments” distributing any monies, to the rich or poor.
Honestly, I should not have even responded to this, and I will refrain from all future discussions regarding Jesus or religion, if it is initiated by someone on the left.
This is all a ploy and a tactic right out of your playbook.
Because conservatives are mostly religious, you try to spin every topic you can in to a “How can we hang this around their neck by using their faith against them” thing.
I mean really, how completely absurd is it to be lectured to, and questioned about Jesus and the scriptures, by the party of abortion.
You like to refer to us as “birthers”
Maybe we should call you “Partial-birthers”
Report Post »What Would Jesus Vote
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:13amI was raised a southern baptist and I’ve read most of the Bible and the story of Jesus in particular. I prefer the historical story of Jesus, the philosopher.
There is no way to reconcile the teachings of Jesus with your greedy right-wing ways. Not that it matters.
Report Post »SensibleDiscourse
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:59amI’m gonna just leave this here:
Report Post »http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/17_franken.html
avenger
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:33amJesus was a libertarian…
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:52amThis is why atheists aren’t theologians.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:52amHe may be right we would have to ask Jesus about that one to be sure. However we know for a fact because he taught it that Jesus wasn’t ok living lives of sin unmarried sex,drug and abuse, stealing,lying,debauchery,laziness, homosexuality,beastality,prostitution,…ect He believed in forgiveness yes but only to those who truely repented and changed their ways.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:11amJesus rejected the offer of dominion over the kingdoms of the earth, idiot. He was not interested in “social justice”, rather, he was interested in individual salvation. How utterly foolish these people make themselves out to be.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:43amJesus is THE Libertarian.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amChristianity teaches us generosity and giving. It does not teach us to set up a system where people‘s money is forcibly taken from them and redistributed according to someone else’s beliefs.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:54amThe Bible said that it will be a stumbling block to those that see themselves as intelligent, and that even a fool can comprehend the word of God. Guess who is a stumbling fool.
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:54amAmazing! Those who hate Chritianity and Jesus the Christ ALWAYS claim to know what Jesus would do, or what Jesus or God would say. I would not want to be them on judgement day. They have no fear of God because the don’t believe that He exists.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:55amIt’s interesting that so many find truth and meaning in Any Rand when she herself was a devout atheist. Could someone do the math for me on that one?
Report Post »TermLimits4All
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:08amThis man is so ignorant. Tithing means one tenth; not 39.5%. And he asks it of everyone the poor and the rich alike, but he never forced it upon anyone like the government does. Now that being said I am not a fan of a flat tax. Go FAIR TAX!!!
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:18amnice editing(again) go watch the whole thing. I do think both are wrong. what would Jesus TAKE? he should have said what would Jesus GIVE!! and this is from a non-religious person.
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:11pm@GetLife
We already have that system. It’s just privatized.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:02pmOkie says, “Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Mathew 19:21).
This is just part of the story Jesus was replying to a man whom said he has kept all the commandments and asked what he lacked to do in order to gain everlasting life….Jesus knowing his heart told him exactly what he didn’t want to hear, give up your LOVE of money and love me…
Okie, Jesus didn’t say “give up your love of money” or “give up your love of earthly possessions.” He said, ““If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor…”
I don’t think you can insert extra words into quotes from Jesus to change the meaning more to your liking.
Report Post »mickey
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:03pmI say with all proper respect that comments about the God, The Son of God or Holy Spirit should be very garded and thought of before one goes blabbing insults to bring God down to earth with us lowly sinners.
Report Post »Yes it is good to know what Our Lord, God and Savior would do but that can only come from the Word of God found only in the bible. Be careful boys, lest you fall out of grace from an angry and righteous God who will some day and probably soon frequire every one of us to expalian every word tha comes from our big mouths. Yes that includes mine! so dont bother to repine.
Neuhouser
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:14pmI personally have found both through reading the Bible and talking with others that both God and Jesus supported divinely appointed dictatorships, but that’s just the thing, DIVINELY APPOINTED. Nothing on on Earth will ever come close to that.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:41pmJZS replies:
Okie says, “Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Mathew 19:21).
This is just part of the story Jesus was replying to a man whom said he has kept all the commandments and asked what he lacked to do in order to gain everlasting life….Jesus knowing his heart told him exactly what he didn’t want to hear, give up your LOVE of money and love me…
“Okie, Jesus didn’t say “give up your love of money” or “give up your love of earthly possessions.” He said, ““If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor…””
“I don’t think you can insert extra words into quotes from Jesus to change the meaning more to your liking.”
Is this all you can say JZS? That’s it? And to help clear your ignorance again I added nothing but I did explain the whole story…
If the man didn’t love money, why was he sad? Do you get sad when you have to give up what you love? FACT: the man was sad because the MASTER commanded him to give up something he LOVED…FACT: if the man loved the master he’d give up every penny in a blink of an eye….
Can you provide scripture were ALL were commanded to give up their wealth? NOPE! 1 Timothy 6:10 tells us “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
Scripture backs my claim up….Where is your JZS? Or are you falsely representing the word of God….
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:45pmOkie from Muskogee, you are trying very hard to reconcile your political beliefs with the words of Christ. The Words of Christ speak for themselves. Christ said, “Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
Now you Okie from Muskogee say, “well he was just talking to this one guy and he didn’t really mean that literally.” No Okie, Jesus meant what he said. His teachings were to help the poor and the disadvantaged.
Okie says, “FACT: if the man loved the master he’d give up every penny in a blink of an eye…” Okay, except you are supporting the rich, who know now have more money than ever, of even giving up a penny to help the poor. In fact, you want to give them more money.
Sorry Okie, you can’t reconcile the teaching of Christ with greed. Even quoting Timothy.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:45pmPsssssssssssssst…………JZS
From one Marx to another, I’d quit while I was behind.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:20amJZS wrote:
“Okie from Muskogee, you are trying very hard to reconcile your political beliefs with the words of Christ. The Words of Christ speak for themselves. Christ said, “Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.””
The words of Christ are quite clear, unfortunately your clipping his words…I am not reconciling anything but I am correcting your false interpretation of the word of God….Funny you think I’m reconciling for politics…Can you tell me what political views I have? I believe it was YOU using God’s words to say we should be socialist, not me….
“Now you Okie from Muskogee say, “well he was just talking to this one guy and he didn’t really mean that literally.” No Okie, Jesus meant what he said. His teachings were to help the poor and the disadvantaged.”
Wrong again JZS…He was talking to a man correct? Jesus meant literally for THAT man to give up his wealth, correct? Is there any other stories or any commandments to ALL to give up wealth? And whom was it this man was to give wealth too? Poor right, not Government…Seems the greedy is government for I can give to the poor directly so why would government want me to give to them instead? Wouldn’t that be doing the opposite of what you proclaim Jesus said to do? Since the Government is rich, should it give all it’s wealth up? We can all see your hypocrisy clearly JZS….
“Okie says, “FACT: if the man loved the master he’d give up every penny in a blink of an eye…” Okay, except you are supporting the rich, who know now have more money than ever, of even giving up a penny to help the poor. In fact, you want to give them more money.”
You know not whom I support. I can tell you I do not support liars about the word of God…Seems you are trying to use Jesus’s words for your political view….
“Sorry Okie, you can’t reconcile the teaching of Christ with greed. Even quoting Timothy.”
Again I’m reconciling nothing but simply using scripture to dictate scripture….You are giving an opinion.. I am correcting your political lies with scripture….
JZS have you given all your wealth to the poor as you stated we should all do? I’m sure the homeless man is seen as much poorer then you or considers you rich…Once you give up all your wealth and lead as example then maybe someone will listen but until then we will all see you for a politically motivated liar of the word of God….Stop lying about the word of God…
underconsideration
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:24amI don’t know anything about Scripture, but I don’t trust any group that trusts it and it alone to interpret a text, their claims seem hard to believe. Reconcile Jesus with capitalism, or socialism, or libertarianism all you want; but don‘t act as though others don’t have the ability to do the same. The Bible is massive, and it provides statements that people of differing mindsets can read and reasonably disagree on.This is why theology exists- it’s because people disagree on religion. It doesn’t make you dumb, stupid, or evil; it just means you see the book a different way than a fellow believer.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 8:29amMaybe that is why GOD (you know the father of JESUS ).. said MAN must work by the sweat of his brow??? We know that LIBERALS don’t want to SWEAT.. they WANT everything GIVEN to them..
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 9:45amWhen you can make thousands of fish and bread materialize from just a few and when one can convert water to wine without taxing the folks into oblivion…
well… then you have a right to be a socialist.
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:46pmAnd Why would I take advice on being a Christian from someone who despises and any other time would be making fun of Christ and His followers. Satan is using these people as his mouthpiece. Jesus commands his followers to turn everything in our lives over to Him so that we may put it to use for the glory of His Kingdom, not literally give everything away so that we have nothing. How can you help someone when you have nothing? You have to read all of Jesus’ teachings to get the gist of it all. O’darn-ell just proves himself a fool of the Bible. Do we see him wearing sack-cloth to host his show? God only asks for 10% and I‘ll almost guarantee none of LMSNBC’s hosts are giving 1% to God. Nowhere does God say that we should help others via the gov’t. because He knew that the gov’t was and always will be corrupt and destructive to those who work hard and truly care for mankind. Liberals on care for the GAME! Not people.
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