Wash. Post Goes Back to the 1800s and References Romney in Story on Mormon Massacre
- Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:30pm by
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It has become something of a recognized double standard that many in the media media will go to extraordinary lengths to bring out the worst in Republicans, while Democratic indiscretions are often overlooked or disproportionately covered.
For instance, the news that Mitt Romney allegedly gave a haircut to someone who may have been homosexual nearly fifty years ago recently swept the airwaves, though the same pundits showed little interest in the new Jeremiah Wright tapes that indicate he may have been offered a bribe to stay quiet until after the 2008 election.
However, the Washington Post is seemingly not content reaching back 50 years to find “dirt” on Romney — this time, it’s not stopping until it reaches 1857.
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In an article titled “Mitt Romney’s Faith Tangles With a Quirk of Arkansas History,” the Post writes:
On the wildflower-studded slopes of the Ozarks, where memories run long and family ties run thick, a little-known and long-ago chapter of history still simmers.
On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.”
Many of the locals grew up hearing denunciations of Mormonism from the pulpit on Sundays, and tales of the massacre from older relatives who considered Mormons “evil.”
“There have been Fancher family reunions for 150 years, and the massacre comes up at every one of them,” said Scott Fancher, 58, who traces his lineage back to 26 members of the wagon train…“The more whiskey we drunk, the more resentful we got.” [Emphasis added]
The Post then concedes that, when polled, the majority of Republicans say Mitt Romney’s faith is not a reason either to either support or oppose him, before continuing:
In northwestern Arkansas, at least two monuments commemorate the massacre, including a towering wooden cross erected just six years ago. On it is carved a biblical saying: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay saith the Lord.”
[...]
“It’s an emotional thing for us,” said Phil Bolinger, president of the Mountain Meadows Monument Foundation. “When you come of age, when you mature, things to do with your own blood kin becomes more important and you become passionate about it.”
In conclusion, to draw as much of a distinction between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama as possible, presumably, the Post writes:
In another quirk of history, both of the main presidential candidates have ties to this region. Parley Pratt, an ancestor of Romney’s and an esteemed figure in the Mormon Church, was murdered in Arkansas shortly before the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Historians have speculated that anger over this killing may have played a part in the massacre.
And in a cemetery nearby is buried Nathaniel Bunch, an ancestor of Obama’s, according to local genealogists, who say Bunch was a contemporary of the wagon train emigrants. [Emphasis added]
So essentially, while Barack Obama is “the first gay president“ because he endorsed gay marriage and ”the first Amish president” because he doesn’t like Twitter, Mitt Romney is to be associated with murderers (even terrorists, if you caught the “first 9/11″ reference), who lived roughly two hundred years ago.
The Washington Post, it seems, just can‘t get enough of Romney’s “past.”
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Comments (265)
FEMALL
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:05pmGee, I wonder what they might find if they dug way back to 2008 in Obama’s past? Oh, never mind.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:27pmIn all likely hood Obama’s paternal ancestors in Kenya sold slaves to the white slavers there. White slavers did not venture too far from the coast because it was far too dangerous, so they relied on local tribesman to capture the slaves for them.
Let’s take that trip down nostalgia lane with Barry shall we?
soybomb315
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:33pmThe Mormon inquisition has arrived. We told you the left/MSM would do it.
Still think Romney is the best to go up against Obama?
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:35pmYou don’t REALLY expect them to go WAY BACK, four years, to find out what OBOZO was up to do you?
Report Post »Make them stop
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:36pmWell Obama ate what he killed, eeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuu!
Report Post »floridaborn
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:39pmheh – heh – heh. Maybe this will be the year of the end of MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post and the New York Times. Hopefully voters will realize how small-minded their agendas really are.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:44pmExactly why Romney did not want to go down the Rev. Wright religious nonsense. If they average American became acquainted with Joseph Smith and Morman faith they might gain a better understanding of what is best regarded as a cult. Settlements on the moon, the Sun, etc. etc.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:05pmConsidering how reluctant they are to relate Muslims to 9/11 and terrorism, it is amusing that they would relate Mormons to an event which occurred a century and a half ago, and then relate that event to 9/11.
They are drawing a closer connection between Mormons and 9/11 than they are willing to draw between Muslims and 9/11. Liberals are so goofy in their blatant hypocrisy.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:07pmJRook
Yeah those Mormons are much worse than the Black Liberation Theologists whose founder James Cone has spouted such loving things as ” The deeply racist structure of American society leaves blacks with no alternative but radical transformation or social withdrawal. So-called Christianity, as commonly practiced in the United States, is actually the racist Antichrist. “Theologically,” Cone affirms, “Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil.’” The false Christianity of the white-devil oppressor must be replaced by an authentic Christianity fully identified with the poor and oppressed.’
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:34pmEven though I do not want to see Romney as our nominee, this is BS. Obama does not need super pacs as he has the media. Free trash spewing for Obama and we Republicans have to tell our super pacs to keep it calm. Do not talk about Obama’s religious leader, but trash a Republicans religion. Unbelievable. With that out of the way, Paul is still in the running and I do not need to bash Romney’s religious beliefs, his record say’s all. For the NDAA, for the Patriot Act, has no problem with assault weapons bans, etc…. D- rating with Gun Owners of America, A+ for Paul. Backed by the corrupt corporations that helped get us into our financial woes and has a budget plan that will add over 2 trillion to the problem, Paul is backed by our military men, Veterans and citizens and his budget plan will decrease the problem by over 2 trillion.
When you look at everything, Paul is the best fiscal conservative we could ask for. If we do not get this economy under control, and soon, we will not be in a position to help anyone in the world, especially ourselves.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:57pmHere is a good article about the good Doctor: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12204890-ron-paul-wins-minnesota-and-takes-on-romney-on-his-home-turf
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:03pmThis explains everything about Romney Supporters. The Best Response Coming from a Paul Supporter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqQrDI7fvA
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:40pmMormons killed by psycho Mormons
Report Post »Muslims killed by psycho Muslims
Jews killed by psycho Jews
RepubliCorp
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:16pmWEST COAST PATRIOT
Report Post »Here is a good article about the good Doctor: http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html
Amica
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:41pmJROOK: You are broadcasting your own shallow, small minded, ignorance and intellectual shortcomings in ALL CAPS!
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:47amLol, lunacy arguing against lunacy. Lunacy wins.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 4:04amRepublicorp, Thomas Lifeson is a person who just likes headlines, he is an MSM nobody. Here is an article he wrote about Romney: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/romneys_smoking_gun_picture.html
He has no validity here. He is a shill.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 4:20amRepublicorp, Andrew is a liar: http://www.dailypaul.com/223064/gop-caucus-chair-andrew-ron-paul-supporters-are-neo-nazis-walden-caught-in-a-lie
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 8:12amHeck, Obama’s ancestors were probably eating each other.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 8:19amTurn about fair play…..vett Obama. Think the facts will find Obama is a lie. Pray for good to over come evil!
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 10:04pmhttp://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 12:24am@West Coast Patriot
Thanks for another great posts and links :-) The fact is that there will be open season on Mormons if Mitt is the nominee. This is the mere beginning, and as we all know that the main stream media will have a field day with this, and it will be successful. Many evangelicals will sit home, or vote for 3rd party. Mitt’s only hope is that people dislike Obama so much that they are willing to give Mitt a chance, since he does not offer anything except his “Ken” looks. He is an empty suite, jelly spine suckup, that will never reform anything.
So for those of you that still have not voted there is still an opportunity to vote for Ron Paul. That will give him more weight at the convention, and possibly Mitt will agree to some of Ron Paul’s solutions.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »RickTheLDSRocker
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:04pmThere are two sides to the MMMasacre. Many on the wagon train came from Missouri where it was legal to kill a Mormon. Some of the people on the wagon train were bragging about killing Joseph Smith and taunting the Utah people as they were passing through. What did the wagon train expect would happen? That they would be able to victimize the Mormons and get away with it like they did in the recent past. The wagon train gets attacked and then they whine about it. (This is my version and comments) Revenge is not ours to dish out but if you poke a stick at a dog that you’ve abused for years you are going to get attacked.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:29pmIt’s tit for tat. Now, we need to go after Elizabeth Warren for her indian heritage killing white men way back then. What about those nasty indian days?
Report Post »MacPharlan
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:13pmThe point is that ‘some’ folks fed up with getting driven from the US and all the persecution and these folks going through the Utah territory lit the fire. This small group of people (not the church as many try to pin), incited the local Indians and did a horrid act, and were brought to justice.
Don’t know where they get off on saying it was the Mormon militia, these were people acting on their own.
Report Post »noczars
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:40pm@RickTheLDSRocker= This is why I want Glenn Beck to do a “Truth Finding Program” on Mormons and what REALLY happened. He made a small mention on his radio show a couple of days ago. Fact is LDS now ex-communicates Paligamists and Romney’s Father was NOT a Paligamist. Glenn also mentioned that back in the days of paligamists, the reason was all the adult men and women were slaudered. Please urge Glenn to do a show QUICKLY. And lets go back to when obama’s father had 4-5 wives (at least).
Report Post »tketterer
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:57pmThe mmm came from bringum young. This is just another example of the white wash of the history of mormonism
Report Post »http://www.mrm.org/mountain-meadows-massacre
P8riot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:09pm@TKETTERER –
Every credible historian agrees that Brigham Young couldn’t have had anything to do with this tragedy. It would have been virtually impossible for someone to ride a horse that distance to deliver any such message prior to the massacre.
Yes, members of my faith did these horrible acts to which I’m ashamed – but the Church itself had nothing to do with it. In fact, would be completely opposed to murder.
I‘m just glad we don’t go finding out what religion every murderer was a part of and then blame the murders on that religion. Similarly, I don‘t blame Brittney Spears’s code of morality on the Southern Baptists.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:54pmSo the Mormons killed over taunts and jokes about Joseph Smith?
@p8triot
So Brittney Spears is the Southern Baptist version of Brigham Young? As messed up as Brittney has been she as far as I know hasnt been preaching these things.
1.”There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it . . . Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 247; see also, vol. 4, p. 53-54, 219-22
So Jesus died but its not enough?
2. “I say now, when they [his discourses] are copied and approved by me they are as good Scripture as is couched in this Bible . .Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 264; see also p. 95
You think that is a correctly interpreted or is just like the Bible?
3. “Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266). Also, “The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269).
I only have one wife, so I guess I am damned. So it looks to me that Brigham Young for sure believed you can become gods but you have to enter polygamy to do it.
If the prophet is fake the religion is faith. Get away from the Mormon faith, not just for you salvation but for you children’s salvation. If you are wrong you are risking your family by leading them
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:08pm@MUTINY –
First, you missed the point – Brittney Spears is not symbolic of Brigham Young, but rather symbolic of the followers of a religion who sin in direct violation of that religion.
Next, Brigham Young is no less a true prophet than Moses, Abraham and Jacob. As I’ve pointed out to you in the past, if you actually read your citations (rather than simply cutting and pasting from an anti-mormon website) you’ll see that in context his quotes simply state that if someone chooses not to obey a direct commandment from God given to them and fails to repent, then they will be damned. This is the way it is regardless of if you’ve been personally commanded regarding plural marriage or to preach repentance to a city. Sorry if that scares you, but its pretty simple.
The Lord no longer commands plural marriage, however from time to time He has. If you are having trouble accepting this simple fact, please read 2 Samuel 12:7-9. There, the Lord Himself is speaking through the Prophet Nathan, declares that the Lord Himself GAVE David his multiple wives. Further, the Lord states that He would have given David more wives if he desired such and had not murdered Uriah to get Bathsheba. Indeed, the Lord has even given His laws on how plural wives should be treated (Exodus 21:10, Deuteronomy 21:15). Since you‘ve been given this information before yet still can’t understand, do you doubt the Bible or the Lord on this topic?
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Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 9:35pm@p8riot
You honestly think Brittney Spears is in any way religious? Trying to connect her to evangelicals honestly is laughable.
Maybe the blood of the Mormon Jesus isnt enough to save a soul, but the Jesus Christ of the Bible his death overcomes all sins committed.
Yeah yeah, your god told your pope that he needed to stop the polygamy so Utah could become a state. I mean can we both agree that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy? Would you say that 1 Timothy 3:1-2 is interpreted correctly?
As far as 2 Samuel 12:7-9 in no way says he married them or even had sex with them.
We both know polygamy was practiced in the Bible but it doesnt make it right. Lets just say that polygamy is ok in Gods eyes. What gives some Mormon pope the right to say its not now? God changed his mind and told some man? LOL, ok.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 10:53pm@MUTINY –
Honestly, I expected a better rebuttal than that. So I guess your answer to my question would be that you are doubting both the Lord and the Bible in what it says. You‘re seriously going to attempt to explain away those verses by saying David wasn’t married to more than one woman? lol – time to go back to Sunday School. Plus you failed to address why the Lord gave commandments on how to treat plural wives.
Even after reading a direct quote from the Prophet Nathan that the Lord Himself GAVE David plural wives, you still have the nerve to say that it wasn’t okay with God to have plural wives. Okay, maybe you were succeeding the point when you said “Lets just say that polygamy is ok in Gods eyes…”
However, now that you understand that plural marriage was at times initiated by the Lord (2 Samuel 12:7-9) and at other times revoked it (1 Timothy 3:2 – as you cited), you have already answered your next question. Who was it that was speaking on behalf of the Lord to David? It was “some man” named Nathan, who was a Prophet. Who was it that was saying a Bishop at the time should be the married and have one wife? It was “some man” named Paul, another Prophet. Who was Moses, Abraham, etc??? They were each just “some man” who were each called to be a Prophet – Just as Joseph Smith was (btw – no one has ever denied Joseph was a polygamist, just as no one denies Moses, Abraham, etc. were polygamists).
Now you need to read Amos 3:7 to fully understand.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 10:55pmRick, you’re Mormon. I call bs. I was Mormon and KNOW what they tell you to passify questions of their past and present. They were verbally taunted isn’t even a verifiable statement, even at the time, nor would it account for justification. Also, don’t you get how ridiculous it is to claim that they must have been the ones who killed Joseph? And it wasn’t legal to kill Mormons, they just weren’t prosecuted much in Missouri.
Report Post »Weak dude. Mormon justification of some of the things of their past are juvenile. Grown ups aren’t supposed to buy that stuff…then again, I think the same thing every time I listen to Beck, Limbaugh or read anything on this website.
P8riot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:08pm@texasbeta –
You claim to have been a mormon and you really don’t know about Missouri Executive Order 44 (the Mormon Extermination Order)??? So you don’t know about Gov. Bond’s Executive Order rescinding it in 1976 either I presume? It states:
“WHEREAS, on October 27, 1838, the Governor of the State of Missouri, Lilburn W. Boggs, signed an order calling for the extermination or expulsion of Mormons from the State of Missouri; and
WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and
WHEREAS, in this bicentennial year as we reflect on our nation’s heritage, the exercise of religious freedom is without question one of the basic tenets of our free democratic republic;
Now, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTOPHER S. BOND, Governor of the State of Missouri, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the State of Missouri, do hereby order as follows:
Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering which was caused by the 1838 order, I hereby rescind Executive Order Number 44, dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs.”
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has nothing to hide.
Good luck! :)
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:02am@p8riot
I am going on the Bible, not against the Bible. The verse you used claimed that David took Saul’s wives. That verse doesnt say that.
2 Samuel 12:7-9
Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites.
Actually I said we both agree that there has been polygamy. I never doubted that. You said “please read 2 Samuel 12:7-9″. Sorry but that doesnt mean David married Saul’s wives. In the KJV it refers to them “into thy bosom,”. If used in the same context as in Numbers 11:12 and Ruth 4:16 (referring to children), II Samuel 12:3( referring to a ewe ), and in Isaiah 40:11 ( God referring to his sheep )/ So clearly the wives of Saul were not married to David. They were now in his care.
On to Nathan as a prophet. Yes Nathan was a prophet because that was prior to Jesus. After Jesus came he left the Holy Spirit for us and eliminated the need for a go between for us to talk with God.
John 14:16 is all you need to understand your pope gu
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:15am@p8riot
cont..
As far the old Testament rules to New Testament kind of revolves around the Holy Spirit also. Jesus left us with a moral compass, a guide. My heart knows that gay, bestiality, polygamy, and pedophila are wrong. I dont need a man to tell me this. I know these things in my heart guided by the Holy Spirit. This is something Joseph Smith didnt have in his heart because the one who was guiding him was Satan.
I know you believe that Heaven will be full and everyone goes. I believe you are very wrong. I believe Hell will be full of people that follow Anti Christs created by Satan.
Again,
1. If you believe God was a man before he became God, you are not worshiping the same God and Jesus of the Bible. You are worshiping a false god.
2. If you believe you can one day become a god, you are not worshiping the same God and Jesus of the Bible. You are falling for the same trick Eve did in the garden of Eden.
3. If you believe we are all God’s children and we pretty much all go to Heaven, you are setting yourself and your family up for eternal damnation.
Please think about number 3 and read the Bible. You dont need any other book, its the only one you need. I know you are not a bad guy, but you have been tricked. For you families sake just think about the things I have put down. Look at the verses and pray.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:32am@p8riot
Missouri Executive Order 44 wasnt a execution order at all. It was a expulsion order to force the Mormons to leave after the Battle of crooked river. As any group of people trying to hold land I am sure a few people died during the order.
You made it sound like the governor set up a gas chamber. Lets not exaggerate.
I have a Mormon question for you p8riot.
On September 1, 1842, Joseph Smith said, “…for to this day has the God of my fathers delivered me out of them all, and will deliver me from henceforth; for behold, and lo, I shall triumph over all my enemies, for the Lord God hath spoken it.” (Doctrine and Covenants, 127:2)
Why do you think the Mormon god left Joseph hanging on this one? I mean you would think he wouldnt let his prophet be made out to be a liar.
“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” – 1 John 4:1
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 4:26amP8triot, I have just one thing to ask you, do you think that if Iran continues to try and develop nuclear weapons, should we attack them? Just curious.
Report Post »self-reliant man
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 1:53pm@Mutiny:
Report Post »“You honestly think Brittney Spears is in any way religious? Trying to connect her to evangelicals honestly is laughable.”
This is exactly the point. Those who committed the Mountain Meadow Massacre were not told by the LDS church to do so. It was individuals who were members of the LDS church that acted for themselves, much like Brittney Spears acts for herself and not on behalf of all the good Southern Baptists out there. This was a horrible act and can never be justified much like many other people of many other faiths have done. But to indict a whole religion based on the actions of a few is simply ridiculous. I am LDS and my ancestors lost everything several times because of what they believed and they never would have condoned such acts. They never asked for anything but equal opportunity. The religion is different and for many this causes contention (inside and outside of the organization). The LDS people were not perfect in Missouri and said things they shouldn’t have so naturally people got mad. They were a large group that could affect many political decisions. Both sides of the fence were wrong on many occasions. This resulted in the Executive 44 which was unconstitutional and terrible as well. The great thing is Missouri said they were sorry, the LDS Church has thrived in Utah and the world and done well and doesn’t ask for handouts for past discrimination. They have apologized for the actions of those responsible for the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 2:04pm@MUTINY – Again, I am disappointed. You’re actually doubling down on your selective reading of the Bible; wow. If you would simply read the entire chapter and not just one or two words in an attempt to twist them to say something different than the obvious, you would see that it is irrefutable that David was given many wives. Just read two more verses in 1 Samuel 12:11 where it says:
“Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy WIVES before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.”
Seriously, this is getting pathetic. Why are you so afraid to read the Bible literally? Will the fact that the Lord himself GAVE David his WIVES destroy your faith or something? I don’t know why you fight against such obvious truth.
Now your next argument was even better. You claim that Prophets are no longer needed because Christ gave us the we can tell for ourselves what is right or wrong with a “moral compass” or through the Spirit. Thus your proposition can ONLY stand if those before Christ did not have a moral compass or could not tell right from wrong through the Spirit. Do you really think everyone before Christ’s earthly ministry had no moral compass and could not seek personal divine guidance through prayer and the Spirit? Surely not.
continued:
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 2:20pm@MUTINY –
Continued:
Thus, the Lord has used living Prophets from the beginning of time to lead his people. But as you have pointed out, the people still needed to have divine personal guidance to know if that prophet was a true or false prophet. Why would the Lord give us direction on how to distinguish between true and false prophets if there was never to be living prophets again??? If that was the case, he would simply say, if anyone claims to be a prophet, they’re lying because you will never need living prophets again. Please find me that verse. -okay, I won’t waste your time – it’s not there because its not true.
Further, in your selective reading of the Bible, you have also skipped Matthew 16:19 where Christ Himself states that Peter will receive all the keys to the kingdom… since you are new to this, I‘ll let you know that only the Prophet holds all the ’keys’ of the Priesthood. But again, this might be giving you milk before meat.
You might find it interesting that with these Priesthood keys, that whatsoever Peter bound on earth, would be bound in heaven. This is referring to eternal marriage. Thus, understanding the truths that are only found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are essential to you being married to your wife forever. Otherwise, its only till death do you part. I know you are sincere, so I honestly plead with you to accept the truth, for the sake of your family being together forever.
continued:
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 2:46pm@MUTINY –
Continued:
Regarding your oft repeated numbered questions. Again, if you simply read the bible literally, you will answer your own questions.
Here are the facts.
We are the children of God.
we are the offspring of God, Acts 17:29
Notice this does not say we were adopted by God, we are literally his spiritual “offspring”
Thus, since we are children of God, we are also his heirs.
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ, Rom. 8:17
if a son, then an heir of God through Christ, Gal. 4:7
Do you know what it means to be an heir?
Finally, since we are children of God and therefore heirs to all he has, we can one day become like him.
Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High, Ps. 82:6
him that overcometh will … sit with me in my throne, Rev. 3:21
Now as for your assumption that there is only one degree of glory, or heaven, you need to consult with Paul. Paul understood that there are three different degrees of glory. In fact, its pretty clearly laid out in 2 Corinthians 12:2 where he talks of the “third heaven.” He also talks about the different degree of glory each of us will obtain in 1 Corinthians 15:40-42.
Anyhow, this is exactly why Paul taught milk before meat, because most are not ready for anything more than what you have professed. 1 Corinthians 3:2.
Finally, as for your reference to Joseph Smith being able to triumph over his enemies… you clearly missed the point. Again, Paul might be able to help yo
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 2:59pm@MUTINY:
oops – got cut off at the end:
I was saying that Paul could help you out on this one too. 2 Corinthians 2:14 “Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ…”
Do you suppose that Christ did not triumph over his foes because he was crucified? No! Christ triumphed over all, including death. Likewise the Prophet Joseph Smith triumphed over those who thought that murdering him would end Christ’s true church. No! Because The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is literally Christ’s church on the earth today, it continues to grow. In fact its one of the fastest (if not the fastest) growing religion in the world. It continues to roll forth like a stone and will one day fill the whole earth. Daniel 2:34-35. I will pray that you will have the spirit testify to you that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is lead today by Christ through a living Prophet. Its not too late for you brother. All you need to do is pray about it with a sincere heart. :)
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 3:58pm@MUTINY –
Regarding the Mormon Extermination Order – LOL – I guess you‘re only a libertarian who believes in personal freedoms when it doesn’t involve mormons! From all people, I would expect a Paulestinian to be completely infuriated at an executive order that would state:
“[T]he _______ (fill in the blank with any religion) must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State…”
You act like legalizing the extermination of and/or forcible removal from their rightfully owned property is nothing more than a traffic ticket.
Thanks, I learned a lot about Ron Paul supporters today.
BTW – you still haven’t answered me – are you a pastor, minister, preacher, etc. in any capacity? I just can’t figure out how you have so much time on your hands to attempt to degrade another religion just because we interpret the Bible differently than you. I, on the other hand, have all the time in the world to defend my own religion – but don’t have the time to research and attack your religion. In fact, I‘ve never even asked you what your religion is because I don’t attack others’ beliefs, I only share my own.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 5:44pmP8triot, You never answered my question above.
I am Mormon, but my first name is Jack. It was the pluralty of wives that caused my wife and I to leave as the answer given to us on the entire subject by our Bishop, just did not cut it. If Joseph Smith was a prophet, and was told this by Christ, how could he be wrong later? Did Christ later on say, Oh I was wrong on that one, lets change it. I do not think so, If Joseph Smith was wrong on this, he was no prophet in my book. Sorry, just my belief.
Still would like an answer to my question posted above.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 6:01pm@Westcoast –
Sorry man, I honestly forgot to get to yours after the novel I wrote for Mutiny :)
First off; nice one – jack mormon – ha, I get it :) As for your polygamy question, I’m sure you read the scriptures quoted above regarding Nathan the Prophet speaking in behalf of the Lord Himself saying that He gave David his many wives (and yes, those many wives were taken away by the Lord after David committed adultery and murder). The Prophet Nathan endorsed it, and Moses, Abraham and Jacob (including other less known Prophets) practiced polygamy. As cited above, the Lord has even at times given his laws pertaining to plural marriage. Do you think Nathan, Moses, Abraham, and Jacob were all false prophets because they practiced polygamy? Do you doubt the Lord himself for giving David his wives and then taking them away? Of course, there are other times in the Bible where polygamy was banned. So if you want to know why the Lord sometimes initiates it and then sometimes bans it, you better ask Him. :) But those are the facts jack :) Thus, Joseph Smith is no less a true prophet than Moses, Abraham, Jacob, and Nathan. Would you have left the ranks of Israelites who followed Moses in the wilderness once you found out he was a polygamist? If so, you would not have been alone, plenty of people rejected the prophets in the past… but unfortunately it didn’t turn out well for them in the end.
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Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 6:18pm@WEST COAST PATRIOT
Again, just to make sure the point is made clearly, do you believe that Moses, Abraham, Jacob, and Nathan were false prophets because the Lord later revoked the law of plural marriage? If so, you might need to cut out quite a few books of the bible since “if they were wrong on this, then they were no prophets in your book.” Thus, the Lord was never wrong on instituting polygamy at times and taking it away at others, he is the Lord – he can do that :)
Okay, I think you get my point. As to your question regarding if we should attack Iran if they continue to develop nuclear weapons – well, that depends.
It depends on how solid our intelligence is. It depends on what our Generals say. It depends on what Iran claims it will do with it. It depends on how close they are. It depends on if our sanctions are working. It depends on the readiness of our forces. It depends on our allies in the area working with us, and it depends on many other things.
I think the libertarians misunderstand republicans. We never WANT to go to war. We do however, understand the realities of this world and don’t pretend that bad guys go away if you ignore them. War is disgusting. You and I have both served in the military during wartime and have many friends that are jacked up because of it. We also want to end the wars as soon as possible, but not before the job is done.
Thus, its too big a choice to make without all the factors answered.
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Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 6:44pm@West Coast…..This morning my lawn needed water. I turned on the sprinklers…it was the right thing to do. 45 minutes later I turned the water off…it was the right thing to do.
P.S….It’s not going to happen but…Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 7:53pm@RISEANDSHINE –
LOL – you know what, I often need to simplify things don’t I? :) I’m an attorney, so I tend to get a bit long winded and go on too long… thanks for the refreshing answer!
PS – I would vote for Ron Paul over Obama any day of the week. He ran (and is still sort of running) an honorable campaign.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 1:51am@P8triot. You do a great job. I look forward to seeing your posts come up on religion matters.
Report Post »lisa2994
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:02pmAlso msm I hate to tell you but he doesn’t drink alchol, coffee or tea! Good try though! NOT!!!
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 9:24pmI know that evil mormon right?! these lunatics on the left have stooped so low it is actually embarasing to share a country with them at this point
Report Post »caleejr
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:01pmlet‘s go back to Obama’s Father who had 3 wives. let‘s go to that man’s father and look at his dealings with the British Empire.
gotta be equal now folks.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:12pmLets go back to Obama’s beliefs and that of his friends and family members which they practice today… a belief in Marxism, Maoism and state-ism (BIG government)… as a reminder, over 200,000,000 ( 200 MILLION) innocent people were killed in less than 100 years.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:14pmLook at history first. Many things happened over the years, especially 150+ years ago. These people were pushed out of every place and treated badly, kinda like some are treating Christians now.
They headed west to find a place to live in peace. The ones from Arkansas started it cause they wanted to kill the leader. ha Kinda like Custer was gonna whup the indians and it was his “last” stand. If you start it, you win or lose.
Too many fingers pointing without looking at the craziness that‘s been going on in this country since the 60’s revolution.
Let’s go after the cowboy and the indians for killings. Then lets look at the illegals killing people even today, then lets consider how we smear decent people like the Mormons!
Just count those in prison today for their dirty deeds, and they must have been related to some of us. You libs & msm are gnashing your teeth for something dirty and it’s backfiring. Dirt can be traced back to any one of us because we can’t control what our ancestors did.
Report Post »Metallicat
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:01pmAnyone that claims this event in 1857 was the first 9/11 is only trying to paint Romneys religion as radical extremism. did they forget that Pear Harbor was actually more similar to 9/11?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:06pmI am not saying I agree with the article but 1857 was before Pearl Harbor.
Report Post »Metallicat
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:15pmhow does this massacre even compare to 9/11?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:27pmI am guessing the date sept. 11 1857 and the fact people were murdered.
Report Post »lisa2994
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:00pmWOW! This just further confirms how squeaky clean Romney is! I believe everyone has evolved since then right msm?????
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:00pmGuess it’s time to discuss the black tribes informing the slavers of the day where their enemy camps were located so those enemy tribes could be captured for use in the slave trade.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:57pmKony 2012 was created by the WaPo. WaPo journalism is as yellow as the Dog Eater’s urine. Who is the Dog Eater? Who is dad was a Muslim Polygamist? Who was born in Kenya? Who is nicer to woman Morman‘s or Muslim’s?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:57pmSo because Mormons killed some people Romney is bad?
Its not because he puts out a budget that doesnt cut current spending levels and basically endorses Obama’s spending?
Its not because Romney supports bills like the NDAA and the Patriot Act?
Its not the fact that Obama and Romney are both funded by the same big banks?
He isnt bad because he wants to keep us in the UN and us continue to be the global policemen?
He isnt bad for his support of gun control?
He isnt bad for his comments that he believed Ben Bernanke was doing a good job and that he didnt want to waste time looking at the FED?
He isnt bad because in a interview with Tim Russert he said he believed “ from a political perspective life begins at conception ”. So what does it mean from a non political standpoint to you Mitt?
It really is sad how easily you people have been duped into supporting such a bad candidate. This guy has been setup to lose against Obama, and you all fell right for it. Instead of supporting a candidate with different ideas than Obama you went along and have supported a flip flopping liberal Mormon that has almost zero shot at beating Obama.
Do you know why the left is pulling these stories up? Because they cannot attack Romney’s record on the real issues. That is why the birth control and gay crap is coming up. They cannot fight on the real issues because they are the same on the real issues.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:31pmSo you’ll be voting Obama as the lesser of two evils eh? Lol. C’mon admit it… you St Pauly girls are in the tank for Obama. Get it off your bird chest, you’ll feel better…
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:45pmRepublicans and Democrats are providing cover fire for each other while they race towards the objective – socialism
Call us crazy, we think the mission has been corrupted
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:03pmSOY. There’s always that floating Libertarian Island with Tattoo welcoming all new arrivals in those immortal words…. “dee rowboat boss, dee rowboat” if you can’t quite stomach voting for Romney… or Galt’s Gulch for the die hard Ayn Rand fans.
I know you’re not necessarily a Libertarian (I think), and I know Tattoo didn’t say row boat, but it is a place for you to vacation for awhile… lol.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:11pmA person of the mormon cult is just unelectable in a supposed christian country.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:15pmi have no clue what you are talking about – but it sounds good!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:32pm@time
I think you know who I am voting for. I unlike you, Obama, and Romney have a backbone and will vote for my principles. No flip flop, no voting for the lesser of two evils, no more of the garbage. Ron Paul may not win, but if we are lucky enough to have elections in 4 years maybe after another crushing loss to quite frankly the worst president in American history the GOP will wake up.
I will vote for Ron Paul in November.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:14pmMutiny;
“It really is sad how easily you people have been duped into supporting such a bad candidate. This guy has been setup to lose against Obama, and you all fell right for it. Instead of supporting a candidate with different ideas than Obama you went along and have supported a flip flopping liberal Mormon that has almost zero shot at beating Obama.”
If Romney is a BAD candidate, what is obozo? Like most ‘good’ democRATS, he cannot maintain a flip during a single speech without flopping. I suppose that the obozo camp is happy with having a candidate they cannot smear – having to go to his ancestors to find anything to use against him. Obozo admits to drug use, bullying, EATING dog, seeking out radical professors, and any number of other good American pastimes. YES, that is a GOOD candidate; and not only are his job performance ratings plummeting, his personal ratings are sinking as well. Gee, that sounds like a wonderful route to re-election. I see you covered yourself with ‘almost’ – I predict that obozo has NO chance of winning – I don’t hedge my predictions!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:50pmSOY. It was just a test to see if you were a Libertarian… you failed, lol. But you‘re a good egg for playin’!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:55pmMUTINEER. Cross Ron Paul‘s name out on your lawn sign and put Obama’s name in… because that’s where your true loyalties lay. Good luck with that “conscience” vote Obama loyalist.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:02pm@dale
Obama is horrible. I wouldnt vote for him either. Voting for Romney is a vote for Obama because there is no chance for Romney to beat Obama.
If it wasnt so sad it would be funny. You think that Obama supporting gay rights, eating dog, lying, and seeking radical professors is going to lose him this election? The only thing that beats Obama is sticking to real issues. Debt, spending, wars and freedoms are the only issues that matter. Romney cannot attack Obama on those issues because they both have the same ideas on those.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:35pm@time
We will never agree on this one. You are the one supporting a guy that…
1. Has a budget that doesnt cut current spending levels. So you and Romney both endorse Obama’s spending.
2. Has supported freedom snatching bills like the Patriot Act and the NDAA. So you and Romney support Obama on these also.
3. Supports the FED and believes that Ben Bernanke has done a good job. So again you , Romney, and Obama are all in agreement.
4. Supports the UN and believes we should continue being the global police force. Guess who you and Romney are in company with on this one? Obama.
5. Supports gun control and thinks gun control laws keep us safe. So does Obama.
6. He has been pro choice along with his could be running mate Obama.
Looks to me, you are voting for Obama.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:57pmThe Roman Catholic church murdered and killed millions of people ever since it was created by Satan in 300AD.
Report Post »conservativewoman
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:47pm@JEZREEL
(Your post about the Catholic Church killings millions and created by Satan)
LOL!!! Did you have that comment all typed up and ready to be inserted somewhere, and decided in the middle of a topic on Romney, you would just plunk it down?
Off you meds or what?
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:23pmMuslims have murdered and killed millions ever since their creation by Allah. The so-called prophet was a thief, murderer, liar,misogynist, and child molester.
History proves 1400 yrs of islamic slavery/genocides is the worst crime ever against humanity.
Funny that a liberal who supports abortion which has killed MILLIONS would try to criticize Roman Catholics.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:53pmThe news media is really just purely stupid…….ethics are out the door and we understand how dumb they “Think” we are……not.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:52pmHow many millions of babys have been aborted. In my OB book from nursing school stated at the point of conception it is a seperate life from the mother. It can feel. These liberals are trying to associate something that happened 150 years ago? How desperate is the President. Attacking anothers faith and belief. What does the President believe in? Lying is lying it has nothing to do with being political it is lying.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:50pm.
Report Post »I stepped on a bug just this morning. And as a child burned ants with a magnifying glass. So ya’ll vote SpankDaMonkey 2012…..
Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:58pmI bet you have a better plan than these two clowns.
Does your budget cut current spending levels or do you want to continue the same spending as Obama?
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:48pmLet’s not forget the millions of people Muslims slaughtered in North Africa in the 8th Century, or the tens of millions that atheist Marxists slaughtered in the Soviet Union. Islam is in Obama’s past, while Marxism and atheism are his present.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:46pmOh I see how this works……. Black Liberation (Marxist) Theology and “damning America” from Wright’s pulpit in 2008 is quite fine with the lamestream media. But, in 2012, it’s A-OK for them to attack Mormonism and blame Romney for events that occurred before he was even born. Got it?
Can’t wait to see how the lib trolls to justify this.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:46pmIsn’t liberal fear a beautiful thing to watch?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:05pmFear? This isnt fear, this is the left making fun of us. They know what a joke candidate Romney is and can just throw this type of garbage out.
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:46pmIt’s time to go back in recent history and compare the African-Tribes treatment of women
Report Post »EagleEyes
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:42pmYou’re kidding me, right?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:42pmEven in Jersey, I can smell the reak of desperation wafting up the coast from DC…this is beyond pathetic….how about an article discussing Barry O’s fabled Cherokee roots…
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:38pmBarry is a native, gay, African, white, Hispanic, Asian, socialist, Marxist, Maoist, American,
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:42pmSo? Obama’s a Muslim and they are killing people right now. Obama is also African where they are killing people today. Genocide everywhere around obama right now as we speak. Obama’s Africa still has slavery whereas the White American have eliminated it and paid $100s of Billions in reparations. Reparations by the way that sharpton/jackson/obama and others have pilfered fro personal gain, while engineering and perpetuating a culture of poverty again for personal gain.. Hmm! What were we talking about again?.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:55pm@GHANDI….excellent points…I always bring up the ‘Blacks are the only people who still employ slavery’ argument with libs and the black marxist philosophy adherents…they say nothing, they just look out with a blank stare…it doesn’t jive with their scripted rhetoric and they cannot even broach the topic..it paralyzes them.
Report Post »Spqr1
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:40pmWhat most people don’t know, is that the Utah State Government, at the behest of the LDS, is still covering up this incident. Recently, an Archaeological/Forensic research project was halted by the Governor’s office because the actual evidence was leaning against the LDS version of the events.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:49pm“It has become something of a recognized double standard that many in the media media will go to extraordinary lengths to bring out the worst in Republicans, while Democratic indiscretions are often overlooked or disproportionately covered.” Really so when the opposite commands the attention and resources here that is what….. Fair and Balanced.
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:49pmBull. There are several books on this subject, and it has been concluded (over and over) this was a group of Mormons in Southern Utah who did this after being taunted by the wagon train that they had the gun that killed other Mormons. No, they shouldn’t have done it. No, the official church headquarters, 3 days away by horse, did not have anything to do with this tragedy.
Go talk to Obama, he loves giving out reparations for things of the nineteenth century.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:38pmDesperation….
Work hard for the GOP nominee, with time, money or whatever we are able to do….. we MUST have a Republican victory…. these people are such a disgrace and the thought of obama being unchecked for an additional 4 yrs is beyond being acceptable.
VOTE GOP2012
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on May 22, 2012 at 7:12pmI’m hoping most of us sane ones left understand how desperate the liberals are having to dig up dirt that is hardly more than fine sand. I think one of my ancestors killed someone on the Isle of Man. Hey, you wanna hold that against me, libs?
Report Post »Every Liberal crying in the wilderness has this or something worse in their own closets. Obama won’t release any of his REAL past, so we have to believe what we hear about being Amish and Gay. You know in your heart of hearts that Romney is our next President. Obama is washed up, who has almost brought our Nation to it’s knees and still blaming it all on Bush. hahahahaha
When you can’t succeed on your own, blame anyone else, especially Bush. Do not re-elect this man with such a dirty past, he can’t even find birth certificate or medical records nor school transcripts. Many questions. What I do know is he is not good for America, with unknown past.
love the kids
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:38pmI guess that is O.K. because they still go way back and consider blacks today living under slavery, so at least on this one, they are consistant.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:50pmWell then I guess we can reference all crimes commited by Blacks as part of Obama’s ideology. I say do a big article on Wayne Williams and reference Obama through-out it.
Report Post »Then do big story on the ammount of theft committed by blacks and reference Obama stimulus package.
Then do a story on Radical Islam and the deaths atributed to it and reference Obama ideology,islamic unbring through-out it.
Then do a story on the over 100,000,000,000 death in peace times atributed to Communism and refernce Obama’s communistic unbringing.
You know the winds were really strong during Katrina and Obama comes from the windy city…so maybe Obama was responsible for Katrina as welll.
HKS
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:52pmMormons, blacks, Chinese and American Indians were all persecuted for who they were in America. Some would say that hasn’t changed.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:05pmThousands of Kenyans are being driven into modern slavery abroad in their desperate attempts to escape from worsening economic conditions at home. Nation investigations show that nearly 20,000 Kenyans fall prey to human trafficking cartels yearly and are living in appalling conditions in North America {Boston}, Europe and the Middle East….and Barry chills with Hollywood and rap artists, he could give 2 s***s about anyone or anything but himself.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:37pmSo WaPo can’t seem to find Os College Transcripts or his thesis or anything else about him prior to 1991, or right a cogent article about real unemployment numbers and inflation but we are supposed to somehow believe that what happened in AR in 1857 is somehow Romney’s fault?
Has it occurred to anyone at WaPo that hack writing may have something to do with WaPo bleeding readers and advertisers and losing money hand over fist?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:25pmoops write not right
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:36pmThat’s okay. Blazers go back to the 20s to reference Dems and the KKK, and they’ll go back to 1800s to reference their clothing style and founding fathers! Sounds about the same…
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:46pmOnly gotta go back a few years, if at all to find Dem/KKK connections.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:47pmIn the ’50s, it was Democrat governors and Democrat-controlled state legislatures in the South that placed the Confederate battle flag on their state capitol flags. It’s an issue that continues to inflame racial passions even today.
In 1957, Orval Faubus, the governor of Arkansas, called out his state’s National Guard to prevent the integration of Central High School in Little Rock. In response, President Dwight D. Eisenhower sent U.S. troops to the city to escort nine frightened black teens into the school past riotous mobs inflamed by Faubus’ defiance of a federal court order. Faubus was a Democrat. Eisenhower was a Republican
On June 11, 1963, Alabama Gov. George Wallace stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama to block its integration. Wallace was a Democrat.
Robert Kenedy who in 1964 assisted the FBI’s efforts to destroy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by approving the wiretapping of the man considered the heart and soul of the civil rights movement
But of late, Democrats are not trying to keep black children out, but in. In public opinion polls on school choice, blacks overwhelmingly favor vouchers to rescue their children from failing schools. No one knows better the damage that poor schools can do to their children’s future and communities than blacks. Republicans are in favor of school choice. Democrats aren’t.
And Sen. Byrd was not just any old member. No, sir. He was a “grand kleagle” – a recruiter…
Report Post »…@Best….you know nothing
copatriots
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:54pmNothing wrong with history……part of which to be sure you don’t repeat horrific things of the past which somehow humans tend to do time and again. But, don‘t ya find it somewhat hypocritical though how 0 wasn’t vetted at all by the media. Rather, as the article correctly noted, they seem to always find a way to make him a victim or a hero.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:00pmHaha, see what I mean? And I’ll bet you were wearing your three-pointed hat when you typed that. Keep digging up the past, bag of tea for brains!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:12pmIt’s usless and lost on B_P, MARK, but great history lesson for the rest of us! B_P is paid to be here and post. I often wonder how the pay structure works in selling your soul. I used to have hope that maybe they would learn something every now and then……and maybe they occasionally really do. But the job requirement is to flood the comment board and denigrate anyone when they can’t make an effective argument. It’s a waste of time really unless your message has broader impact and gets through to others who may be reading the exchange……as your post did. :-)
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:19pmPatriot…its called a Tri-Corn hat…geesh, even 9 year olds know that….I think it is covered in 1st or 2nd Grade….
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:35pmLOL @ funny 3 hat Mark!
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:53pm@BEST…..if obtaining knowledge is funny to you, then your doomed…
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:02pm@Mark0331, then my doomed what? I don’t understand what you meant.
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