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Open Thread: Obama Speaks About Long-Form Birth Certificate
- Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:15am by
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Editor’s note: Obama has concluded his remarks on his birth certificate, but we are leaving the story open so you can continue commenting. Feel free to discuss the issue and read our story here. You can watch the president’s remarks here.
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Comments (196)
Pizza Royalty
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:39amAt this point the economic damage has been done to our beautiful country……the point that we may or may not have been infiltrated by a non U.S. citizen is mute. The main stream media will never allow the truth to come out. Trump may have made this issue “high” profile just to intentionally damage the Republicans. Like McCain he may be a wolf in sheeps clothing. World Net Daily needs to drop the issue.
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:10pmTo my humble [Conservative] opinion, it’s hard to “intentionally damage the Republicans” more than Republicans have already damaged themselves, maybe – unintentionally.
Report Post »Actually, on all issues that were catastrophically damaging to our country, Republicans were in the bed with those who those issues promoted (Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., obama: I listed only those whose activities I remember by myself, not from somebody’s interpretation)
And first of all, Republicans allowed to smear the only Senator who bravely fought against the spread of Commies in our country, the spread that eventually brought all of us to where we are now.
nccjones
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:37amOkay…Obama could have been born here or maybe not…people just want an answer. I love Glenn Beck, he Questions with Boldness and asks America to do the same. I am upset because I was listening to Glenn on the way in to work this morning and he was making fun of the “birthers” on national radio. Literally making fun of them. I have to say he came down quite a few notches for that. He doesn’t have to agree with the “birthers”, he can respect them with disagreeing. Glenn…this was so wrong of you.
Report Post »FormerFan
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:26amAgreed.
Report Post »smak
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:18pmLittle creep.
Report Post »QuallaCherokee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:29pmNCCJones,
Report Post »Agreed, Glenn lost my full attention a year or so ago,
I understand NO ONE’s perfect, but you’d think a pro like Beck would keep his opinions straight,
UNLESS the opinions are for ratings, something I started to question just before his 8/28 project .
Glenn claimed to love the Constitution yet really started “dogging” people BEGGING the Courts to uphold the Constitution A2S1C4 (Quals for the Office of President)
I’ll say this, if WE THE PEOPLE can not oust Obuma in 2012, We the people have two choices
1 sit down and shut up or
2 Do the thing Glenn has “completely taken off the table”
Gettn it
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amI am hard pressed to believe a liar.
Report Post »He’s a liar. I don’t trust him. None of this
Matters it doesn’t change his policies and his
war on our exceptionalism and economy.
Just a distraction…
rose-ellen
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:01pmYou’re exceptionally good at getting away[except on 9-11 when it came back to bite you] with mass murder, torture and convincing people to die for wealth [the campaign to seize the spoils of war catching on with americans who soon will be willing be cannon fodder in the effort to steal].A bunch of you manipulated lackeys just gave their lives for the exceptional right to invade and occupy Afghanistan.Wow !What a victory!.
Report Post »ItTakesFaith
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amLet’s see, for an administration that has perpetrated fraud against this country for the last two-and-a-half years, we finally get to see the President’s “real” birth certificate?! Regardless of whether the birth certificate is authentic, its NOT the most important issue! Even though we know less about this man than any to serve as President in the country’s history (Medical records? Education records?… etc.), we should be most worried that he is taking the country down the path towards full-fledged socialism and economic destruction… Now THAT should concern ALL of us…(Media Matters and Democrat tools excepted!)!
Report Post »Brock
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amWoW, looks like the tough talking Donald is the right man for the job, I mean he made Obama blink, just think how fast the Saudis and the Chinese will blink when he faces them. I am truly amazed by the might of the Donald. GO Trump GO! That is a real Alpha Male American.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:30amMy thoughts on Trump is he will not get the republican nonmation,so he will run as Independent,spliting the votes and guess what Obama wins again,I pray this dosen’t happen
Report Post »FormerFan
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:20amWhat if the Republicans do nothing substantial about the debt before the next election (again betraying the American public – remember the way the Democrats got control of both houses)? An independent could win if the Republicans botch their chances again. Obama and the Democrats have so little approval now also. That said, I would rather not have Trump as president. Let Ron Paul do that. Let’s have Trump and all US business people free of regulation and tax burdens to restore our economy.
Report Post »US MARINE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amNobody cares,.. its all BS.
Report Post »An AmericanMom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amFunny how easy it is to unhinge this guy…..now can we talk about why this ass-clown is trying to bring this country down?????
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amEven if it’s fake, he has bowed (he does that alot) to the birther fury. Get the prez on the ropes every way possible.
Report Post »US MARINE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amThis is not the real BC – The real one notes Barry is a Caucasion, born of a white mother…
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:55am@ US MARINE ~~~
First, thank you for your service to our country!
second, your comment, if true, would make my day!
Personally, I’m readying up for some “Dirty Harry” action on my part, even if I am older `n dirt!
Report Post »mtDiamonds
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amOn the day the fed is giving its first ever press conference?.?.? …really !!!!
Report Post »truthncharity
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amSeems the perfect time to release it now…..we can’t have a bunch of folks paying attention to Bernanke, the FED, making a speech after 97 years of silence…..surely the people care more about this birth certicate issue than the economy….keep’em entertained and you can do what you wish with them…pay attention people!
Report Post »Amazona
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:31amThis is too Funny!!! WIN for the Donald LMAO
Report Post »Dotski
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:28amDon’t believe the HYPE! I would have to see someone else’s Hawaiian birth certificate to compare. DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
Report Post »lainpa
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:39amhave you seen the nordyke twins certificate of live birth? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=285921
Report Post »Hadituptohere
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:55amI don’t care one way or the other —but if you compare the two certificates there seem to be some discrepancies like the certificate numbers are questionable and the name of the hospital address are different. how can a person be born after you have a certificate number before you and did the hospitals address change in two days?? Obamas was typed on aug 8th and ms nordykes on aug 11th. hmmmmm
Report Post »liriadavila
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:28amSame story, same bla, bla, bla
Report Post »aslancub
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amYes, why now?
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amBody lanuage time! How high will BO’s head go while reading the brain prompter?
Report Post »Bri guy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amI wonder if Jerome Corsi will just go away, or will this actually boost sales of the forthcoming book?
Report Post »Tulip
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:47amI think Barry is trying to “settle” the issue so that a lot of people will see no need to read Corsi’s book. If that’s his reasoning I hope it backfires.
Report Post »truthncharity
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amHere’s what MSNBC posted
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
Report Post »starman70
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:43amPlease, MSNBC? I just ate breakfast and don’t want to vomit.
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amThis is a dumb move by the President. Why tell the truth that you were born in Hawaii. He should‘ve keep his mouth shut and keep bringing up the argument that fringe groups still believe that he wasn’t born in this country. I personally don’t care about this issue, we are 14 trillion dollars in debt and unless that problem is dealt with Obama’s birth certificate is just the tip of a massive iceberg.
Report Post »canechaser
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:34amsee i dont agree with you that its a non issue or that you don’t care.. it would mean the bastard broke the laws of this nation and perpatrated a huge scam on the American people and that scam and him are part of the problem as to why we are in so much debt.. which means that all his policies and the rest of the crap he has done is illegal.. then we arrst his ass and begin to reverse the damage he has done… to me, it goes hand ibn hand…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amHE’S LYING! I know, the press conference hasn’t started yet…just practicing.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:42amNice to know I am not the only one working along the same line of thought.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:52amHe is not telling lies yet….his lips haven’t moved…..will we hear unprecedented BS remarks as usual?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:01amWell I didn’t hear any outrageous lies this time but, when he chastised the press or the American people (I’m not sure which) for demonizing their opponents, I about fell out of my chair. Hard to take from the demonizer in chief.
Report Post »macombman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amI will miss all the funny videos. :-(
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYmDB2aDkYQ
QuiteContrary
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amoh for goodness sake. this is hilarious. Trump musta gotten under his thin skin. LOL
Report Post »starman70
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:40amGO TRUMP GO!!! The POTUS is really getting rattled. His lies and doublespeak are being uncovered. Yeah, how about multiple Social Security cards?
Report Post »Pizza Royalty
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:49amNot to sound paranoid….BUT…..Trump may have intentionally set up the Republicans to look like fools. Trump speaks from both sides of his mouth. This will only make the President look good and the media will run with it.
Report Post »mill
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:19amTRUMP is a Democrat plant.
Report Post »Henry Scougal
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19am? is the long form (certificate of live birth) released today…the same as an “original”…“birth certificate”
Report Post »The Real Captain America
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:24amThats a good question, because if I remember right, on this form that came out it says his birth name is Barrak Hussien Obama II, but I thought his actual birth name was Barry… So whats going on there?
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:43amThe Donald is having an impact, however, it is the prevaricator-in-chief’s interest to keep the controversy going (watch the other hand).
Report Post »buckj1013
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:14amThis again is the Cert of Birth and not the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. BC is much longer Dr name, etc; and is black background with white print from this hospital in 1961.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:40amWhere is wikileaks on this subject?
Report Post »RodzUK
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:49pmMay i ask a question ?
Forgive me , but could you please clear up something for me , being British i dont understand What is the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth , Certification of Live Birth & a Birth Certificate !!!
in what way do the differ ? & do they visually look the same or differ ?
i keep reading that this is not a Birth Certificate but a Certificate of Live Birth etc
So Which is Which ? Please
Report Post »Apologies in advance
Rodz
Mod Baker
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:18amThis should be interesting! Perhaps he will also address his Connecticut social security number.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amDo not count upon it.
Report Post »kingtbone
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:59amHe will wait 2 years after re- election ….Time to go egypt on obummer
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:14amAnyone else find it strange? I mean why did he say he found it funny when he himself spent millions fighting it in courts. Then not showing it for 3 years until today. Did anyone else notice the **** eating grin on his face? It was as though he found something to bypass what’s been said about it up til now. He didn’t answer any questions after the “announcement” he just turned tail and ran. I bet he went in the back and asked everyone if they think we bought it? Seriously this has been a huge issue with lots of people and he finds it funny and waits 3 years then goes on tv for 5 mins and it’s supposed to be over now?
Report Post »MEESHEL
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amlmao :D
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amSorry, already know the formula, POTUS shows up late, opens mouth and telepromptor is engaged.
Mouth moves and lies come out on topics and threats other than what in this case is a non sequester moment: the birth certificate.
Let the conspiracy theories continue.
Report Post »mattwakulik
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amthis does not make any sense!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:41am@Matt:
Not make any sense?
For most of us, myself included right now, yes. With the exception of looking at it from the POTUS point of view. He can use this to discredit any further birther opposition, to mobilize and energize his base voters, and distract us from the rest of the Fed Reserves press conference coming up later today.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:53amwhat’s the other hand doing?
Report Post »ameripreneur
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:57amSo, basically, he was losing a media campaign, didn’t like the fact that someone else was generating more interest, so finally he releases it. Typical bs from the POTUS. We need real people to govern real people. End of story.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:59am@DoCrow:
The other hand is the Fed press conference this afternoon, and whatever else will be coming down the line on friday while the major news is directed upon the Royal Wedding.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00amDocrow
Report Post »Exactly!!
JD Carp
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:02am@DOCROW 100^ right! Do NOT trust these people one bit. Everything Obama said is true he just doesn’t believe it. Back campaigning, not leading.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:11amWhen someone breaks into your house, you don’t care where they were born, what race they are, what their favorite color is……Obama and his partners ARE RANSACKING OUR HOUSE!!!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:18amOK now explain why it is out of sequence with other birth cert. numbers. I understand Obama had a birth certificacte I don’t understand why it it out of numerical numeber. Like his mother showed up after the fact to say she had a child .
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:18amObama declared that it is now time to get on with the real matters such as with high gas prices and the like. What he will not mention ever is that HIS policies and those of the Fed Reserve ARE the main cause for oil, energy, and food prices shooting out of the stadium.
I know there are some who say I preach nothing but conspiracy theories, the fact is, look at the larger patterns and see things from their perspective. Look at what THEY have stated as the goals they are seeking to achieve, then you may see things as I do.
Report Post »jmmjr49er
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:26amOur long nightmare is over. He was born in Hawai’i not in a smelly farmhouse. Free at last, free at last.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:34am@ Snow — read some of your other posts and know that I agree with you and I don’t understand why so many others of “us” out there are still making fun of Trump & saying this is nonsense – including Glenn. If nothing else, whether he runs or not, I think it‘s been good that he’s out there shaking things up and I do think this is a “win” for Trump – it wasn’t trivial. And he DOES talk about the other important issues. He also handled himself great with the media – loved it! I‘m thinking even if he doesn’t run, he’s doing good by shaking & drawing attention to these things and probably scaring Obama & crew to death. It may force them to show their “hand” – the “other hand” of cards which they’ve been deceiving us about……fear/panic sometimes causes people to make mistakes that expose them. I see this a good “deal”. So, I thank Mr. Trump & hope he continues…..think he might be our “trump card” indeed……….
Report Post »calebgs83
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:35amTrump’s stock just went way up…he just proved to the entire world that he gets results…he took an unpopular issue to a hostile media, and he forced obama to surrender. That said, I still want someone who is a constitutional conservative.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:35amDoesn’t anyone but me wonder why Obama would do this TODAY, the day Bernanke and the Fed plan to unleash a fiscal flamethrower to this country?
If this isn’t a classic case of “watch the other hand”, then nothing is.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:37amOh come on!!!! Cut it out about the Fed news conference and this all being used as a distraction. A distraction from what? You think you are going to learn anything new??? You think some reporter is going to trip up Bernanke?
Report Post »epeele
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:38amHow does Obama’s certificate have certificate number 61 10641 filed on 8/8/61 when a certificate filed 3 days later on 8/11/61 has a certificate number 61 10637?
And this is for a woman born in the same hospital 1 day after Obama.
The certificate in question is posted here: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=285921
Report Post »GymCy81
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:41amThere are more important issues than this One.
As a side question:
Did the typist of the certificate have the ability to change the size of the font?
Does it appear that the font size in the name row, is different than in the next row of information?
Perhaps a review and comparison of other certificates, at that time, could help to sort thru that question, and find the whole truth.
There are a lot more important issues and concerns in this country than this One.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:52amBravo Trump! This is thanks to you. You’ve made a lot of people jealous. Lots of preachin‘ and hollerin’ going on about how this is unimportant. Well,who will have made it truly unimportant? Donald Trump. Where’s your blog?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:10pmameripreneur
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:57am
So, basically, he was losing a media campaign, didn’t like the fact that someone else was generating more interest, so finally he releases it. Typical bs from the POTUS. We need real people to govern real people. End of story.
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Bingo! Throw in a little distraction for Bernanke today and you have it nailed.
http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com
Report Post »JEANNIEMAC
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:23pmThe certificate is a “copy or abstract”, stamped with the date, “April 25, 2011″ Why now, and not two years ago? Was Trump in on a setup to defuse the certificate question? Is this a diversion from the financial meetings taking place?
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:32pm.
In 1866 John Bingham, the author of the 14th Amendment, stated on the House floor:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”[1]
This definition was unchallenged during the heated debates ongoing at the time. The House floor is certainly the proper place for such debates but no objection was raised among the members, the consensus being that each agreed with the definition. In fact, the House of Representatives definition of a natural born citizen as one “born on U.S. soil of parents who are U.S citizens” still stands today, 145 years later.
The House of Representatives definition of a natural born citizen was affirmed in 2008 by Senate Resolution 511:
“Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”[2]
It’s interesting to note that former Senator Obama was a Cosigner of SR-511. Obama’s Kenyan father precluded his being a “natural born citizen” as required for eligibility to serve as President by the Constitution.
1. Library of Congress, Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 39th Congress, 1st Session, Page 1291, 1866.
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=332
2. SR-511, Opencongress, 5/10/08
Report Post »http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text
Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:38pmThat‘s the grin people have when they’re OWING a bunch of wack jobs.
Report Post »Bhaub
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:47pm@Docrow,
The other hand is parroting whatever Beck says. Good boy. *pat pat*
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:00pmThe only conspiracy here is that the Repubs conspired to withold the real identity of Obama. Obama is not a king and he needs to have respect for the law, which he obviously does not. Calling him out is a good thing and if it had been done sooner, we would not have had to go through all this.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:21pmTea Party Conservatism
The Supreme Court back in 1898 that anyone born in the U.S. was a natural born citizen regardless of parentage, and that has been the law of the land ever since. Since 1866 is before 1898 it doesn’t matter what anybody said back then.
The resolution on John McCain’s situation is just that – a resolution on John McCain’s situation. It neither says nor implies that it has anything to do with citizens whose eligibility had never been questioned.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:47pmMr Trump…can we PLEASE have answers to ALL of these questions regarding this NEW bc??
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
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