Crime

Parallels Between Batman Film and the Shooting

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In “The Dark Knight Rises,” a masked villain leads a murderous crew into a packed football stadium and wages an attack involving guns and explosives. It’s just one of the more haunting scenes in what was one of the most anticipated movies in years.

There is no confirmed evidence so far that the motives of the assailant in the Aurora, Colo., killings on Friday had any specific link to “The Dark Knight Rises.” New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said he was told the gunman had painted his hair red and called himself the Joker, but Aurora police would not confirm that.

It’s not clear why the shooter chose to enter the movie theater at 12:30 a.m., not far into the midnight screening that marked the film’s opening day. Several survivors remarked on their initial confusion as the attack unfolded at seeing a masked figure silhouetted in a gaseous haze and the sounds of real gunshots mingling with the film soundtrack.

In superhero movies, violent attacks on the public by villains are key components of many plots, including “The Avengers” and “The Amazing Spider-man,” both in theaters now. By Hollywood standards, the Batman movies are more grim than bloody. The Christopher Nolan-directed “Dark Knight” trilogy has been more dark than that of typical superhero films, taking a cue from the comic book series published by DC Comics, including “Detective Comics” and writer Frank Miller’s gritty 1986 take on the character, “Batman: The Dark Knight.”

There are general parallels to the Colorado shooting, “The Dark Knight” and the comic book character:

— Bruce Wayne’s drive to become Batman arose from witnessing the deaths of his parents, Thomas and Martha Wayne, at the hands of small-time criminal Joe Chill, who shot and killed them after they had left a theater.

— A part of the Batman video game called “Arkham City” takes place in an abandoned movie theater (The Monarch, outside of which Bruce Wayne’s parents were killed).

— In the “Dark Knight” graphic novel by Miller, the Joker slaughters the audience of a television talk show with gas.

— In the same book, a beleaguered man shoots up a porn theater after being fired from his job, killing three people with a handgun.

— “The Dark Knight Rises” features at least two scenes where unsuspecting people are attacked in a public venue: the stock exchange and a football stadium.

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  • mcmeador
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:43am

    This article is completely stupid.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 5:48pm

      Agreed.
      You could Parrallel this to many other movies, books, comics, etc……

      Also,
      Jokers hair isn’t red. It is green.

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  • TheWholeTruth
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:22am

    Okay, lets get some facts straight here. First off, (I’m hearing this everywhere) He didn’t use an automatic weapon. He did not use an assault rifle either. He used a semi-auto AR-15. It looks scary but it‘s working parts are no different than any other ’one pull one shot’ rifle. According to eyewitness testimony a person heard a cell phone ring, saw a guy answer, get up and go to the EE. He then RETURNED to his seat. It was after this the gunman entered. He did NOT kick in the door as they open out and are made of steel set in concrete block filled with cement (husband has built these) You couldn’t even kick the door in the right direction and get it to open. They guy had equipment that is next to impossible for civilians (non-military/police) to obtain, right down to groin,leg & neck protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT tactical gear etc. He has sophisticated, multiple booby-traps in his home that the B Squad says will day DAYS to figure out.

    Another witness says they were in #8 and when they tried to leave someone shouted “DON’T GO IN THE LOBBY! HE’S GOT A GUN!” so they went to the balcony instead. (Multiple shooters? being as this guy never left the theater until he left by the same way he came in.

    Then they guy calmly surrenders to police? TELLS them about the traps in his apartment? Really??? Warning police so they don’t get hurt… Something doesn’t smell right here. False Flag!

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  • Todd P
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 8:55am

    During the 1970′s there was a rash of hijacking airliners to Cuba. Archie Bunker (“All In The Family”) had a line where he suggested this be stopped by handing out pistols to each passenger as they boarded the plane – as soon as the hijacker stood up he’d be outgunned. It was meant to show how ignorant Conservatives are – but ironically pointed to a greater truth: a well-armed society is a polite society.

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  • Todd P
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 8:26am

    The Joker has green hair – not red. Why would he dye his hair red if he is trying to be the Joker?

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  • Hunter4Liberty
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:09am

    This article raises a lot of questions that should be answered. Unemployed student who couldn’t find work, $20,000 of equipment with first gun purchased in May, training in bombs, explosives, etc. Advanced SWAT tactical gear – how does someone get that stuff without help? Something doesn’t add up.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:50am

      @Hunter4Liberty

      I’ve thinking the same thing since yesterday, I know where I hope the money trail leads…

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 6:37am

    OK, we’re starting to put the pieces together. Holmes bought a ticket, had a seat close to the emergency exit door. About 30 minutes into the movie, he leaves his seat and leaves via the E E door. Problem one: The E E door isn’t an “alarm will sound door?” Is it, or is it not? If not, this will be good folder for those planing law suits for death or injury. If it is an “alarm will sound” door, then Holmes figured out a way to disarm the alarm.

    Problem two: Holmes left through the E E door, which most are supposed to be self-locking. Even when I was a kid in the olden days, they were self-locking, so if you wanted to sneak in, you had to have a friend on the inside to get you in. Holmes could have easily defeated the self-locking of the E E door, by placing a small object so that it wouldn’t completely close, or using duct tape so that the lock wouldn’t engage.

    In my mind, the most important question is: Was this an “alarm will sound” door or not? If not, why not? If it was, was the alarm not working, or broken, or did Holmes find a way to disarm it?

    After this tragedy, the new building codes will REQUIRE that all movie theaters have “Alarm Will Sound” emergency exit doors, along with requirements that they can not be easily disabled.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:07am

      so the libs blame the tea party. i say liberalism and hollywood is to blame for the breakdown of culture. Their anti God and anti moral messages are responsible.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:20am

      Has Rush started his ‘RushBanes’ Facebook account yet?

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    • Skeet
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:55am

      This is what I thought when I read he propped open an emergency exit, why no alarm? you mentioned, he could have disabled it, I didn’t think of that, I would suspect there are ways of making alarms foolproof, if the emergency exit door would have alarmed, he would have been foiled, possibly preventing some of the carnage he wreaked. Every public venue should have EE doors refitted, or double checked to make sure alarms are in order, and cannot be defeated. We are in a free country, and as such, risks exist, but we can do our best to lower the risk level.

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    • motorcycleboy
      Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:52am

      I do remember seeing three strips of duct tape on the trunk of the shooter’s car in a video of the scene from a news station helicopter.

      He must’ve been using it for taping the exit door open.

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 6:08am

    I‘ll bet this kid grew up playing video games created by LIBERAL’s. I‘ll also bet this kid grew up watching Hollywood movies created by LIBERAL’s. And further, I‘ll bet this kid was educated in a system dominated by LIBERAL’s. So, what should LIBERAL’s consider as their next move?

    RAISE A STATUE OF THIS KID ON COLLEGE CAMPUS’ ACROSS AMERICA!
    CHISEL IN…. LIBERALISM – SUCCESS ACHIEVED 7-20-12

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    • SilentDove
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:06am

      This is just one of these times you people here have pissed me off so damn much that I have to finally say something. Video games created by liberals? You have to be kidding me. I mean, really? I am so fed up with this crap. What the Hell is WRONG with you people!?

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    • KingCanon
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:35am

      What is wrong with YOU people?
      YOU are the problem!
      YOU are the social misfits that have created havoc!
      YOU, YOU, are the moral decay of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!
      Synonyms : LIBERALISM, CANCER, DECAY and YOU!

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    • Skeet
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 11:15am

      To really understand this, one must look to the past with a philosophical eye, and learn about Nietzsche, Kant, Hegel, Socialists, Marxists, communists base their politics upon the writings of these philosophers, in the USA, we are seeing the fruits of Nihilism, and to me, it looks like we’re past the point of no return, sad to say.

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  • kover27
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 5:00am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1rlKvp20Ec

    in all honesty i have questions and i want them answerd? why is it so hard for this topic to get any coverage of what the president said about gun control and what happend to the missing girl? watch this video its in no distaste to the victims my heart goes out to all of them i just have a feelin that this was not a lone gun man

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  • Searchingforthelight
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:42am

    Again, if someone had a c@c and stopped him quickly the story might have played out differently.

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  • TRK
    Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:10am

    The irony is that Batman does not use guns and doesnt kill.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:15am

      But, the Joker does…..

      …and James Holmes didn’t come dressed as Batman.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 2:13am

      The whole premise of the Blaze’s story is just silly.

      Mr Baker must think that we are unthinking neanderthals to even attempt such a connection.

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    • KingCanon
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:10am

      This guy was so deranged through the confusion LIBERALISM brings he was acting in duel rolls while creating his costume. Probably had his own LIBERAL character name as well. You know something like LIBERAL-MAN.

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  • RebelPatriot
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:57pm

    What if he had used a bomb instead of an automatic weapon? Those who choose to break the law by killing are not going to be inhibited by laws that only make it more difficult to obtain firearms.

    We already see how poor a job our government does with enforcing illegal drug laws in America, so really do we believe criminals still won’t have access to illegal firearms?

    The problem in Colorado is no one has been carrying a weapon to fire back at the assailants who have chosen to murder innocent people. Does no one in Colorado believe their life is worth defending?

    When criminals have to fear retaliation from those they wish to shoot at they may be less hesitant to think they will walk away from these types of incidents uninjured.

    Do we ban the violence in movies because it desensitizes the American Public. It has become obvious that he was more influenced by the movie than by owning weapons. He began purchasing the weapons after the release of the trailer. My argument is in a civil case more liability would fall on the movie makers and their influence over this man, than the influence of owning weapons. The movie gave him the notion to do the crime, not the weapons.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:13am

      He didn’t use and automatic weapon. He did not use and assault rifle either. He used a semi-auto AR-15. It looks scary but it‘s working parts are no different than any other ’one pull one shot’ rifles.

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  • DeVain
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:02pm

    Not to mention the WB trailers for “Dark Knight Rises” were pair with another movie….a gangster movie where a mobster shoots at movie goers from behind the screen.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:31pm

      “It’s not clear why the shooter chose to enter the movie theater at 12:30 a.m….”

      Maybe it’s because Ramadan started at 12:01 am July 20….. today.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:57pm

      Or he waited until after he watched Jay Leno’s monolog…..

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  • jackact
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:07pm

    Brace yourselves conservatives.
    First the statist media will try to tie the shooter to ‘evil’ Tea Party influences.
    Or maybe Rush?
    Then immediately following will come the leftist parroting ‘gun control’.
    Bloomberg already started.
    Society has always maintained a significant amount of nutcases.
    Sad day enough said.
    God bless the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution.

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    • Banter
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:15pm

      You must have missed the news this morning. ABC tried the Tea Party angle this morning, but it backfired in their face.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:27am

      I wonder if all guns are banned, does that mean that Bloombergs security detail will have to give up their guns?!?

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    • fancydancy
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 6:52am

      Sounds like we should be banning Hollywood movies like this and comic books…why isn’t the liberal news yelling about that? It’s always ban the guns…but weapons come in many ways…knives, axes, bats, bombs, etc. Immorality is being taught via Hollywood, etc. and we wonder why we have violence against others? Seems like a “no brainer” to me.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:07pm

    So far I am batting about 1000 being wrong about who and what this man is about. I got everything wrong about his ethnicity to his just being crazy. I was thinking terrorist. It seems just to be some kind of loon who did a final split from humanity to monster. This terrrible and unimaginable for the horror those involved to have witnessed and gone thorough. Something like this does cast a shadow of sadness cast upon the country. I do pray for all of those who were there and for all of us who, like myself, just want something or someone to blame when there is no one, but the monster who did this.

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  • blazingaway
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:04pm

    What amazes me is that people want to take guns away from responsible people and yet,they don’t want to talk about how holloywood movies inspire,and,motivate killers like this nut case. Perhaps if people weren’t inspired by holloywood movies to,kill we wouldn’t have these problems. They have gun control in the Arab countries that are now in civil wars,so how did gun control work out there

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    • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:17pm

      Your absolutely right. There has also been evidence that the POLICE took a ling time to act once they were on the seen. They probably could have prevented many deaths. This probably came from the chain of command which we have seen is more worried about public union matters. There probably were police that wanted to save people but were not allowed to. The police cant protect us so that is why we need to be able to carry armed as responsible citizens. We must DEMAND our constitutional rights to own and carry arms. Especially in a world where liberals through Occupy wall street and other organizations are calling for violence directly and indirectly.
      TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • blackyb
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:29pm

      They are just sititng ducks like what Obama and cohorts want here. They fail to even keep our service personell with the things they need. This man needs to go and live in the Mid East where his heart is. Americans white, black and otherwise elected him and he is not representing the whole population as he should, but is dividing one against the other to promote his agenda. He was given a chance to represent the greatest country on earth and he has betrayed America. He is a lowlife. He threw this back into the face of the only people who gave him the greatest chance he will ever have. We now owe him nothing. We have been living under a government that is working against all that is good and decent in this country.

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  • Searchingforthelight
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:58pm

    Guns have been around since the beginning of this country, I believe the lack of parental guidance, violent video games and violent movies leads to a problem like this. Can children tell the difference between reality and fiction when they are raised around all this violence? If you look at domestic violence families you will find that many of them believe this is the real way a family is suppose to be.
    Violence is acceptable. This is how we are raising our children. It is acceptable to them. Take away the violent video games. In these games you can rape, murder, and steal cars. What is in fact fantasy is becoming reality or commonplace to many of the youth of our country.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:06pm

      I am totally pro 2nd ammendment, but……….he bought all of the rounds online. I do not know what if any regulations there are about internet purchases of ammunition. But that is definately excessive and will definately be the first thing to be modified.

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:01am

      Let’s modify the violence in movies and videos because he got the idea from that subject matter.

      The violence in movies have desensitized people to do these act of violence, owning a gun does not.

      He thought himself the “Joker” obviously the movie was more of an influence for his actions than owning hand guns.

      If you want to stop the number one killing machine in the US make automobiles illegal.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:31am

      You could have stopped at parental guidance… The other stuff in your post is just talking points…

      Lack of individual responsibility is the root cause of almost all problems in this country…

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:56pm

    This Holmes person is a coward’s coward. I would hate to be the attorney repping him.

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    • Banter
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:12pm

      Of course he is a coward. He went where he knew the patrons were unarmed.

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    • blackyb
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:25pm

      There is always some sleezeball lawyer who will try to get him off. Of course, these people need a fair trial, but some lawyers are not above lying and making the truth look different from what it is just to win. It seems they do not seek justice for their clients, but seek to exonerate them even when they know they are dangerous.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:50pm

    Bloomberg will introduce a ban on comic books now…

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  • gvblaze
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:37pm

    Bullet casings? The general public is to gun stupid. Bullet casings? Lord help us. Its no wonder these people get slaughtered when anything happens: they know nothing about nothing. Too much American Idle. Because statism lulls everyone into a sense of security by sucking massive amounts of tax money off of us to put toward “Homeland Security”, people think they can then forego the need for doing their own security. Well, I’m here to tell you: it doesn’t work like that. You are responsible for your own safety. Can anyone guess how different this would have been had I been in that theatre? I’d have been in the back. I would have instructed everyone around me to get down and cover their ears, 10mm muzzle blast is bad. Then I‘d say a quick prayer and hope my bullets find their target and if they didn’t, they’d find inanimate objects and not innocent bystanders. Anyone want to guess how you take a guy down thats wearing a tac vest? Its easier than you think. Taking down a bad guy in a crowded theatre is no easy task, however, 37 years of tactical pistol experience would give me an edge. A CCW Internet Cafe’ Senior Citizen would have been an asset that day for those people. …or me.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:52pm

      I always carry, even when the sign says no weapons. I will deal with the penalty to save my life and those around me. I am with you. If everyone was forced to take tactical firearm training, this would have never happened.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:01pm

      What’s your point, that it’s normally referred to as a shell casing? Calling it a bullet casing is actually more logical, since the bullet is what it encases. If you consider how the word shell is used in every other context, something hollow that contains or once contained something else, it would make more sense to say that the casing is the shell instead of using the word shell to refer to the whole thing. Calling the casing a shell casing is like calling a shipping crate a carton box.

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  • scrudge
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:36pm

    Ah Yes….. la la land and warner bros…. to some of the younger crowd this was a CULT movie… these younger folks can’t handle …. with out being part of it ….. here comes the law *suites

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:55pm

      SCRUDGE, You’ve got that right on the law suits. First of all the theater and possibly the entire chain if it is part of one will be sued into oblivion. As it should be too, since the business chose keep it a gun free zone for any legal concealed carry persons, then failed to keep every single person in the theater safe. On another note, should the Tea Party member James Holmes sue ABC for false reporting that caused a boat load of left wing loons to look up his number and call to threaten him to the point he had to have the phone company disconnect his phone. More than likely one judge after another will toss the case out of court. So much for shouting “fire” in a crowded theater.

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  • sealwifenyc
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:35pm

    First off, I am pro 2nd amendment, my entire family has them, I had a concealed weapons license before i lived in NYC, but what I don’t understand is why you can buy autommatic weapons where you buy fish bait. The only reason for those types of weapons is to mow people down. Banning the guns which were meant only for our military in a war, and allowing all others is not a constitution violation. The first amendment has restrictions, you can’t engage in libel/slander or yell fire in a crowded place. No reason to have these weapons on the street.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:41pm

      I kinda agree, but you will always have a part of society that is not of sound mind! You can’t stop every bad thing from happening and banning a certain weapon does nothing but make a psycho look for a bigger and badder way to inflict chaos on others!

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    • gvblaze
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:44pm

      You can’t buy automatic weapons where you buy fish bait. This guy had semi-autos, not automatics. They’re autoloaders, not fully automatic. Are you sure you had a CCW? Did you have a gun to go with it? Do a little study, but its not about the weapon. I cry foul. His “automatic” is no different that the “automatic” S&W I carry. His was just longer and held more rounds. You point is mute and sounds ignorant. …and I would never live in the largest shithole on the planet. NYC is the way it is BECAUSE of the weapons ban. The bad guys still have theirs: the ones you vote for and the ones you done. Mayor Bloomturds life is way more important than yours, right? He‘s got armed security and you can’t even carry a decent knife.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:48pm

      You my friend are an A hat, what you talk about is a simi-automatic weapon not an automatic, in the hunting world the 223 rd is referred to as a varmint rd.

      I own multiple AR style weapons and as a law abiding citizen I don’t care if 7-11 sells the tool!

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    • Sparhawk
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:55pm

      Banning something just because it can be used by mentally unstable people to cause injury, is just plain stupid. There is really no polite way to put it.

      Lets ban aspirin because a mentally unstable person can overdose on them.
      Lets ban spray paint — that would completely eliminate the scourge of graffiti.
      Lets ban sports cars because, really, who needs to go 200 MPH (on their own private property) anyway, and a mentally unstable person or incompetent driver can kill lots of people by driving them into a crowd.
      Lets ban airplanes to prevent terrorists from knocking over skyscrapers and important government buildings.
      Lets ban prepaid cell phones, because we all know that’s how terrorists communicate with each other, right?

      Every one of these items have perfectly legitimate uses, and so do guns. Saying “The only reason for those types of weapons is to mow people down” is irresponsible. I have no issue with psychological testing for purchasing any kind of gun; that is responsible. But it sounds like, at least in this case, Mr Holmes only recently started showing signs of mental instability, and he legally purchased these guns. Gun laws would not have prevented this wacko from obtaining guns.
      [/RANT]

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    • RLTW
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:56pm

      You’re the kind of 2nd Amd supporter that thinks we should have flintlocks while the gov has automatics, if you’re so upset about this issue and concerned about death then go to Chicago or protest the car.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:58pm

      @RLTW…yep. Most people do not know the difference between an auto and semi auto. They think a 9mm is measurement they cant undertand….They want to know how big that is in inches I guess…The left will rake legal owners over the coals now because he had legal weapons. Sad day for gun owners.

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:00pm

      Comrades! Really!
      The founding fathers gave us the right to bear arms. They didn’t say, except arms future politicians think you shouldn’t bear, but to bear arms! Why did they do this? The Founding Fathers were REVOLUTIONARIES! They had suffered under King George the III’s omniprescent government, they did not TRUST government, unlike a lot of stupid fools today!
      We have the right to bear arms, this way if it becomes necessary we CAN change the government.
      How could you do that without guns? Ask the Chinese, the Russians, the Cambodians, the Cubans, I can go on and on, because they do not have the right to bear arms and they do not have guns! In fact, it is a death sentence to be caught with a gun in most of those countries. Of course, the criminals still have guns, after all, they are criminals!
      Learn your history first, then discuss this topic, otherwise you will be making a very bad mistake because government is the problem, never the solution!

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    • RLTW
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:07pm

      Baddoggy
      Love you brother, I’m just so sick of people saying they’re for 2amd, but we should give up our rights to “”””””” certain weapons”””””” I say how about you STFU

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 11:50pm

      What if he had used a bomb instead of an automatic weapon? Those who choose to break the law by killing are not going to be inhibited by laws that only make it more difficult to obtain firearms.

      We already see how poor a job our government does with enforcing illegal drug laws in America, so really do we believe criminals still won’t have access to illegal firearms?

      The problem in Colorado is no one has been carrying a weapon to fire back at the assailants who have chosen to murder innocent people. Does no one in Colorado believe their life is worth defending?

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 9:53am

      Dud had a semi-auto which means you pull the trigger, bang, pull the trigger, bang, pull the trigger bang until the number of projectiles “stored” is used up

      Automatic weapons are “machine guns” where you pull the trigger and bang bang bang bang bang bang bang untl the number of projectiles “stored” is used up

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  • american_rose_126
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:29pm

    God bless this officer who did the briefing–his demeanor is exemplary after such a horrific event. Also his determination to not leak any information that could possibly cause the prosecution of this animal to go awry…God Bless all the officers and medical staff who responded to this act of terrorism. Whether this guy worked completely alone–or is part of a wider group or cell and just was the man who did the job–does not matter! This guy is a domestic terrorist–plain and simple! Can we please just call him what he is??

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  • jspec33
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

    My hats off to this top cop. Handling it like a real pro in my opinion.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

    That police chief is one squared away professional. Hang in their, Chief!

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:13pm

    We in Colorado, have certainly had a rough summer. I really wish someone could have taken this beast down before he did what he did.

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    • Wdawg
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:24pm

      Say someone else in the theatre did have a gun and pulled it out to take down the gunman. In all that confusion of people running around, how would the cops know the 2nd person with the gun wasn’t the shooter. They would have been killed too! Everyone packing wont make us safer!

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    • TRONINTHEMORNING
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:35pm

      Yes, if that person had used a gun, that would certainly be a possible problem. Perhaps, many rushing him might have lessened the bloodshed.

      But, I have no problem with people packin’, as you say; as long as they are legally doing so. Police have a keen way of tracing back the first shots fired; from whom, what gun, etc. It’s a science in which they are quite versed.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:42pm

      Even if they were armed, the gunman was very well protected with ballistic armor. Shooting at him would only illicit return fire from a superior weapon without any protection for the one intervening. That 71 year old with the .38 would not have had the same results with this guy as he did with those punk kids a few days ago.

      The only option for subduing him would have been for a few guys to rush him and restrain him physically.

      They were sitting ducks in there.

      What a horror.

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    • Banter
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:42pm

      @wdawg

      Do you really think this idiot would have done this in a room full of armed people? Your “victim-hood” is showing, dumba$$.

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    • Wdawg
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:45pm

      “many rushing him might have lessened the bloodshed” That is what they have been teaching school administrators to do in case of a shooting.

      I don’t have a problem with people packing guns. The first armed person that arrived at the Gabby Gifford‘s shooting didn’t pull out his gun cause he didn’t want to be mistaken for the gunman.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:47pm

      WDAWG:
      Or, it could have been very much like the church shooting, where an off duty police officer was able to shoot the shooter. I have a Conceal Carry, I can tell you the first thing in a situation like that is take the shooter out. You can monday morning QB it to death, or just wait for him to run out of ammo and end up with 12 dead and 71 shot.

      Just as in Chicago, total gun bans work great for the criminals, they feel really safe when commiting crimes.

      And as anyone who wants to call out for gun bans, He bought them legally, and when you look at the number of guns owned and sold in the US, what percentage of those who LEGALLY own a gun commit a crime? We don’t need anymore laws, how many laws did he break this morning? No amount of laws can keep a kook from commiting a crime.

      Let’s just pray for the victoms and their families.

      So far this summer has sucked for Colorado, I went up to the Academy yesterday, you can see the devestation, and now this. Why couldn’t this California piece of crap stay in San Diego, or at least commit the crime back there.

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    • gvblaze
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:49pm

      WDAWG, they would not know until you held it up above your head. They’d cuff everyone with a weapone and sort it out later.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:06pm

      MRBUTCHER, the culprit certainly did his homework and likely studied videos such as the 1997 Bank Of America robbery in North Hollywood.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1PEY8F4xE
      Had somebody been armed with a good 9mm, .40 cal, or .45 cal loaded with Federal Hydra-Shok Plus P Plus and knew what he was doing, could have at least put him off his guard or even knocked him down at a close range so that he could have been rushed. Granted, being in a panicked crowd can make it difficult.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:13pm

      @RJJinGadsden
      I personally carry a .45 Auto, good stopping power, and even with body armor, it will knock the wind out of a person.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:16pm

      GVBLAZE, I would suggest holstering the weapon before the cops arrive. There have been off duty cops who have taken charge of a robbery in progress then shot by arriving patrols that saw his weapon before they recognized him. If you have to maintain a weapon on a dangerous perp, get on the cell to 911 and quickly explain what has happened and describe every thread of clothing that you are wearing and that you are holding weapon. Then hang on with the operator until the cops do arrive and take over the situation.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:24pm

      DARMOK AND JALAD AT TANAGRA, I hear you on that having seen the results of a .45 impact a number of times. Carried one on duty for many years. Had a nice series .80 Colt Combat Elite tricked out with a number of items from Wilson Combat. That was stolen a number of years ago. Got to get another someday. I carry a SIG P226 usually with a 20 round mag, unless I have it under my clothes, then go with a couple of MecGar 17 round mags. The wife has a Glock 17, both stay loaded with the Hydra Shoks that I mentioned. Those will leave a walloping impact on body armor too. But others have to act quickly to stop the perp after those impacts.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:37pm

      @RJJinGadsden
      If you want something that is very compact, a great shooter, and won’t break the bank, I got a Taurus P145. 10 rounds, very compact, I carry mine in the small of my back no problem, a buddy has the Colt Defender .45, a little more expensive, but very compact. Both models are very accurate, at 10 yards I can put all 10 rounds into a 50 cent piece in under 15 seconds. Practice, practice, practice.

      I still believe a well armed society is a polite society.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 10:53pm

      DARMOK AND JALAD AT TANAGRA, Gotta agree with you the practice. And practice with the rounds that you carry daily. I’m retired Army, and a former city cop. I’ve fired expert from the first time I picked up a .45 in Army training. have to credit dear old Dad for that, God rest his soul. Not being a small guy I can easily conceal the SIG. Concealed the 1911 a lot too with no problem. When I was on the civilian dept I was issued another SIG, so my SIG was my back up. Kept a mag bag in the center of the seat with a load of those 17 round mags, several of the original SIG 15 round mags, and two SIG 20 round mags in the six outer pouches. Several boxes of ammo and a cleaning kit in the center main pouch. With even the remotest chance of any of these crazy things happening anywhere it is best to be prepared. Kept a dept 870 in the vehicle too.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 12:45am

      No sane gun carrier would have been able to thwart this

      The only way to disable lunatics like this is to aggressively attack them like an animal.

      Hand to hand. Disarm. Neutralize

      The inspired fist can be mightier than the gun..

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